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President Kiir (C) meets Machar (R) with the participation of Sudan's Hemetti (L) on 15 January 2020 (SSPPU photo)
January 15, 2019 (JUBA) - South Sudan’s main peace partners on Wednesday agreed to refer the sticky issue of the number and boundaries of states to the South African deputy president to broker a compromise.

President Salva Kiir and the SPLM-IO leader Riek Machar met in Juba in presence of Mohamed Hamdan Daglo, Sudanese leading member of the Sovereign Council to discuss the contention over the 32 states.

Kiir struggles to keep the contested territorial administrative system while Machar and other peace parties call to restore the 10-state system if the president refuses their demand to review the boundaries and the number of states.

Presidential adviser Tut Kew Gatluak stated after the meeting that the two leaders discussed the number of states and they will continue to tackle it with the other peace partners.

Gatluak further pointed to the role played by South Africa’s deputy president David Mabuza to reach an agreement over this issue.

"We agreed to allow him more time to hold further consultations with the peace parties. This issue of the states involves all the signatories to the revitalized agreement and I’m sure we will reach an agreement," he said.

Last December, Mabuza held a two-day meeting in Juba with the peace partners on the number of states but they failed to strike a deal.

The South African deputy president, however, said the parties are narrowing two options on the number of states without elaborating on it.

"Where we are now we have nudged all the parties and we are only left with two views and these two views, we are going to escalate them,” Mabuza told porters.

For his part, Democratic Change Party leader Lam Akol said that there was a proposal to arrive at some figure between 10 and 32 states.

Recently, the SPLM-IO accused the South Sudanese government of seeking to organize demonstrations in support of Salva Kiir’s refusal to compromise over the number of states and boundaries.

Gatluak stressed that the difference over the number of states will not prevent the formation of the transitional government next month.

The IGAD which brokered the peace agreement and the international community praised the regular meetings between the two leaders saying it would contribute to build confidence and pave the way for a successful transition.

(ST)

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  • 16 January 07:56, by Midit Mitot

    Better that, citizens are suffering from 32 state, we need 1956 Districts or 23+ Abyei =34.

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    • 16 January 07:58, by Midit Mitot

      Correction! I mean 24

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      • 16 January 08:17, by Langbaar

        Mr. Midit Mitot,
        You and your foolish Nuer community must look for country outside South Sudan that will live with your *foolishness and believe in your Ngungdeng magic and superstitions* But Not South Sudan and North Sudan. What is South Africa to South Sudan?, in a Nuer foolish world view>>>>

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        • 16 January 08:22, by Midit Mitot

          (Langbaar)Pakuai,

          Mad man, you will remain as fool forever, we were forgiven you during 2013 crisis as our people in Bor an yet never appreciate us.

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        • 16 January 08:35, by Langbaar

          "South African vice president to broker a compromise"
          With who? We are going to destroy your South Africa if you foolish Nuers don’t know. *Our ke nyantoc*, grow the damn up. Dinkas/Jaang are not treating you with kid gloves some of these days. Your Riek Machar has long since gone to Mr. Deng Nhial battalion.>>>

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          • 16 January 08:50, by Malakal county Simon

            Langbaar/pakuai/slave

            How can a caward Dinka Bor destroys mighty Nuers when they can Dinkas/slaves with their eyes close?? Luckily, you UPDF rescued your Bor Town otherwise, you won’t talk taught now Right?? If you dare to start this senseless war again over this illegal 32 States, forget about Bor and you all be chases to Bhar_el_ghazel this time for good!!

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            • 16 January 09:41, by Langbaar

              Malakal county Simon,
              "How can a caward Dinka Bor destroys mighty Nuers when they can Dinkas/slaves with their eyes close"
              Bor dinka/Jaang have never said they can destroy our foolish ’Nuers ke nyantoc’ and if the Bor Dinkas/Jaang wanted to destroy low lives, we can do it and get away with’ plain and simple.>>>

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              • 16 January 09:50, by Langbaar

                Malakal county Simon,
                Stop using that name, Malakal is an Apadang Ngok Dinka/Jaang country and other people country. Nothing to do with ’our Nuer ke nyantoc low lives’. Malakal county Simon, I am of the boys who help bombed your so-called ’white army out my home, Bor in 2014, throughout the whole Bor right up to Ayod, Balliet, Atar and Malakal loser.>>>

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                • 16 January 10:00, by Langbaar

                  Where are your so-called white army these days, Malakal county Simon loser? Our Nuer ke nyantoc, we are just the same with you as ’Jaang and Nuers’. But our you, Nuers ke nyantoc are not equal with the Jaangs, however you losers always like to project your *Ngungdeng Buong magics and superstitions loser* on to Jaangs>>>

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                  • 17 January 03:37, by Malakal county Simon

                    Langbaar/slave

                    Stop that empty thumb chest of yours!! You’re a well-known coward/instigator and all you need to do is to wear a skirt.... Your ignorant is out of control and forgetting to thanks UPDF who captured your so called Bor Town from braved white-army!!!!

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        • 16 January 08:47, by The Rhino

          Kuch aka Pakuai aka Langbaar,

          There are 63 tribes in South Sudan.Dinka tribe is only one of them,..making ’the foolish majority’.Your tribal tyranny,chaos and greed must be dealt with accordingly!

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          • 16 January 10:13, by Langbaar

            The Rhino,
            So what? There are no 63 tribes in South Sudan piece of trash. Give an evidence piece of trash. The Rhino piece of trash, some you lowly educated fools even think, their nonsense in Uganda, democratic republic of Congo (DRC), Kenya, Abesh (so-called ethiopia) prostitutes, Central Africa republic (C.A.R) or cloned so-called Arab North Sudan>>>

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            • 16 January 10:44, by Langbaar

              as South Sudan’s tribes? Mr. Rhino, be very careful piece of trash. ’South Sudan is not part of your usual piece of so-called *commonwealth countries*, never has and will never ever will under the sun or even in million years, reasons, pure HATRED and RACISM. Fact are: There will be no *white Americanism, English people, their UN, their sleazy NGOs, criminals,>>>>

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            • 16 January 11:07, by Theallseeingeye

              Kuch
              I beg you refrain from arrogance even if for a single day and think rational, I have been following your comments here on ST and I must admit that sometimes you talk sense but why do you always choose otherwise?. Just look at the country brother, everything is s total mess. and those behind these conspiracy are making lab monkeys out of us. wake up man, damn

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              • 16 January 11:13, by Theallseeingeye

                Kuch
                you must admit that your tribe Dinka are arrogant and primitive, just look at what is happening in Lake states and Warrap though there is no rebellion there!!! now they are even about to introduce this revenge attacks and cattle wrestling to Juba (like the case of the Uni Lecture) Imagine???? these are facts not fictions. even if those 63 tribes somehow magically vanished.....

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                • 16 January 11:20, by Theallseeingeye

                  cont...
                  you(Dinka) alone won’t even live peacefully. You guys should start reassessing yourself and stops those chaos. because you can’t be hated by everybody and even by your own self too. Trust me even in Australia & other countries, the Dinka community have diverge the whole perception of South Sudan communities in diaspora.

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                  • 16 January 11:35, by Theallseeingeye

                    cont..
                    this is true, I imagine even a Durfori in the market would have a double price for a Dinka fellow and a normal ordinal price for a none Dinka!! is it because you guys are rich??? NO, because they believe that at anyhow you must have obtained that money for an easy way (they have this fact of you looting the country with impunity). OK you can loot, but WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH LOOTED MONIES?

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                • 16 January 16:12, by Langbaar

                  Theallseeingeye,
                  Yes, the Dinkas are very arrogant and they know the reasons why they arrogant chap. Have you ever heard a Dinka marrying a Bantus? Yes, some Dinkas maryy them these days. But Bantus cannot women cannot lecture a Dinka or Muonyjiengs of the Sudan about anything Theallseeingeye, piece of trash.>>>>

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                  • 16 January 16:22, by Langbaar

                    Theallseeingeye, watch out piece of trash. your so-called AFRICA UNITY AND REGIONAL INTEGRATION being propagated by low lives of Mr. Thabo Mbeki, Paul Kagame, Jakaya Kikwete, Uhuru Kenyatta, Hailemariam Desalegn all the times over other countries and their their people. Theallseeingeye, South Sudan is a Dinka/Jenge of the Sudan country piece of trash>>>

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            • 16 January 14:11, by The Rhino

              Kuch,Pakuai,Langbaar,

              Respect these tribes!!!...
              The 63 Tribes of South Sudan in alphabetical order!

              1).Acholi 2).Adio(or Makaraka) 3).Aja 4).Anyuak(or Anyuaa) 5).Atuot(or Reel) 6).Avukaya 7).Azande 8).Bai 9).Baka 10).Balanda-Boor 11).Balanda-Bviri 12).Banda 13).Bari 14).Binga 15).Bongo 16).Boya(or Larim) 17).Didinga 18).Dinka 19).Dongotona 20).Falata(Arab Nomads) 21).Feroghe 22).Gollo 23)......

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              • 16 January 14:15, by The Rhino

                Kuch.Pakuai,Langbaar,
                .......
                23).Imatong 24).Indri 25).Jiye(or Jie) 26).Jur(Beli & Modo) 27).Jurcho(Luo) 28).Kakuwa 29).Kara 30).Keliko 31).Kuku 32).Lango 33).Lokoro 34).Lokoya 35).Lopit 36).Lotuko(Otuho) 37).Lugwuare 38).Lulubo 39).Maban 40).Madi 41).Mananger 42).Mangayat 43).Moro 44).Moro Kodo 45).Mundari* 46).Mundu 47).Murle 48).Ndogo 49).Ngulngule 50).Nuer 51).Nyangatom 52).Nyangwuara....

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                • 16 January 14:22, by The Rhino

                  Kuch,Pakuai,Langbaar,
                  ....
                  53).Pari 54).Pojulu 55).Sere 56).Shatt 57).Shilluk(Chollo) 58).Suri(Kachipo) 59).Tid 60).Toposa 61).Uduk 62).Woro 63).Yulu...

                  Now what you crazy Bor ’piece of trash’???Dinka alone ain’t shit in South Sudan!We will guarantee that you savages learn your lessons and move out from other peoples territories,full stop!

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                  • 16 January 14:29, by South South

                    The Rhino,

                    Kurkoo, without Dinka the 63 tribes of South Sudan can’t stand alone. Now, let’s look at Bari. Thomas cirillo rebelled against our government, what happened to him after he formed NAS? He’s hiding in a hotel room in Addis. It’s very embarrassing to see that. Kurkoo!!!!!

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                    • 16 January 15:26, by jubaone

                      South South
                      Jienge Kaffir, kurkoo..kurkoo, here comes the jinga jienge. None from the 63 tribes ever lived and even wants to live among savages and barbarians. Jienge killing themselves and the rest flee terrified to Equatoria, Khartoum, Uganda or Kenya. If jienges can’t live peaceful among themselves, somebody would be stupid to want to live with these wild baboons.

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                      • 16 January 16:12, by The Rhino

                        South South,

                        South Sudan without Dinka savages would’ve been a very special peaceful country with all its splendors and beauty concerning the rule of law and order.Look at your hometowns in Dinkalands or Abyei,you vagrants ran away from Arab Masiriya only to cause havoc in Equatoria and other areas.How about the revenge killings,thefts and chaos in your luaks,disgusting!Other communities/tribes..

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                        • 16 January 16:18, by The Rhino

                          South South,

                          ..must absolutely avoid you Dinka people from squatting or getting near them.The presence of any Dinka savage not only in South Sudan but also in any other country worldwide means crimes, theft,anarchy and death!Therefore we will do everything possible to give you hell.NO to damned Dinka,full stop!

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                          • 16 January 17:15, by South South

                            The Rhino,

                            Kurkoo, the country is under controlled, Kurkoo!!!!!

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                  • 16 January 16:32, by Langbaar

                    The Rhino,
                    Are those piece of trashes you mentioned above are ’South Sudanese tribes?’ My arse. There is no tribe called ’Yulu’ in South Sudan Mr. The Rhino piece of trash. If there are ’a tribe called ’Yulu’ in South Sudan, then the Dinkas/Jenges are not going trammel them. But the Dinkas/Muounyjiengs of the Sudan cannot live side by side with evil white Americans,>>>

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                    • 16 January 16:53, by Langbaar

                      English people, their evil juus (so-called israel), our cloned so-called arabs of North Sudan, Bantus, their UN, sleazy NGOs, UNIMISS creeps of *Indian, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sri lankan, Rwandans, Abeshas (so-called ethiopian) prostitutes, Ghanaian, Mongolians and other piece of creeps who covet our country and our people to death

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                      • 16 January 17:04, by Langbaar

                        Theallseeingeye piece of trash. South Sudan is not your ’Bantus countries who worship *evil white Americans, English people, Arabs, their evil juus (so-called israelis), UN and NGOs* Theallseeingeye, piece of trash. Be very careful. You criminals so-called NEW WORLD ORDER, GOVERNMENT WITHOUT BORDERS OR AFRICA UNITY AND REGIONAL INTEGRATION will not fly over the Dinkas/muonyjiengs of the Sudan>>>>

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                        • 16 January 17:15, by Langbaar

                          Theallseeingeye piece of trash, reasons, pure HATRED and RACISM. South Sudan is not a Bantus country. Have the Bantus *settled their scores with Belgians in Democratic republic of Congo, DRC, Angola, Mozambique, Malawi, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Botswana, South Africa, Namibia, Kenya, Nigeria and other countries>>>

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        • 16 January 09:27, by Games

          Langbaar/Slaves
          You are crazy dumb Oldman
          South Sudan is belong to all 64 tribes.
          So if you cowards Dinka want to leavesSouth Sudan for Uganda, we the rests of the tribes are well comes you go volunteery.

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          • 16 January 11:11, by Langbaar

            Games,
            ’did your foolish mother tells you that?’ Games chap, do you know how to fight wars? ’Enroll in your North Sudan army’, we are going to bomb you and your masters that you will fight for out of map, reasons, pure HATRED and RACISM chap. We are not equal with you losers. Games, have you ever heard the word ’attrition’?. War of ’attrition’ is what is always fought over the back of the>>>

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            • 16 January 11:24, by Langbaar

              That South Sudan would always be ’chess game or football played all the times’ by our so-called ’allies or uncles or other countries’ in the name of the so-called *Humanitarian aid, donations, peacekeeping, human rights and all other bullshits*, Fellows watch out, game is over>>>

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              • 16 January 11:34, by Langbaar

                *Uganda doesn’t have food to feed her over copulation, Rwanda also has the same problem, Democratic republic of Congo (DRC), Kenya, Abesh (so-called ethiopia), prostitutes, our cloned so-called arabs of North Sudan, Eritrea, Northern Nigerians and even Somalians. LISTEN HARD PIECE CREEPS; *Corn and sorghum, beans and oil*>>>>

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                • 16 January 19:01, by Langbaar

                  that is always given to South Sudanese refugees in Uganda, Kenya, Gambella region Abesh (so-called ethiopia) prostitutes, and even our cloned so-called cloned so-called North Sudan. Is a genetically (GM) corn in the US and their allies. Most of what this ’corn/maize, sorghum’ is badly grown lowly informed South Sudanese’ your US and her allies love our country and our people>>>>

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                  • 16 January 19:18, by Langbaar

                    have a big land, waters and a population that worship *evil white people, their evil juus (so-called israel), Arabs, UN, sleazy NGOs, Abeshas (so-called ethiopian) prostitutes and Bantuses.* Mr. Thomas Cirillo was even and asked the South Sudanese to ’run to neighboring countries’ after he stole the SPLA money and ran to Abesh (so-called ethiopia),>>>

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      • 16 January 08:31, by The Rhino

        Look,

        Kiir and Machar are just wasting time here.The agreement they signed with their own hands stated that in case they disagree on the number of states and boundaries, the country will revert to 10 states.So why are they dishonoring the document?..and why are they referring the future of this country to somebody else to decide?Shit,drought company IGAD is standing by & doing nothing, worthless!

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        • 16 January 11:41, by Garang Akeen Tong

          The rhino

          You people need to reasoning well, because our people suffering beyond description.
          32 states where created after war broke out, we don’t fight our selves because 32 states.
          You can talk and know that our people need peace.

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      • 16 January 12:11, by South South

        Midit Mitot,

        24 states is Nuer suggestion only. This article from Sudan Tribune is not correct. What is correct is that Kiir and Riek will continue to talk about the number of states and their boundaries, that’s what I know. Yes, South Africa is there to bridge the gap between them, but South Africa will not decide for us.

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  • 16 January 09:14, by conservative

    Dr. wangkel still in wrong direction of south Sudan u better resgin from politics or it will take to hell along with nuers people if they keep follow him

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  • 16 January 09:19, by Games

    Hope South Africa VP wouldn’t accept the bribe money again to try to stick with that stingy 32 states. 10 or 24 states nothing else

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  • 16 January 15:11, by Eastern

    The good thing is that the KiirChar meeting has again ended in a STALEMATE...The proposed arbitration will drag on for years...The holdout groups were and are still absolutely correct!

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  • 17 January 00:38, by Deng II

    From 1991-2020, 29 years Riek Machar still killing an innocenc soul of people. Peace with Riek Machar is a waste 0f time and it is a business as usual. 32 States is a best mechanism to reduces the killing since Riek Machar still breath-in air.

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    • 17 January 03:30, by Malakal county Simon

      Deng2

      Wake-up and start reasoning like a normal human being.... I wonder why the Dinka tribe being the most hated by all South Sudanese tribes because of lies right?? 2013 was a Salva Kiir war as he was acting out of fear you know it, i know it and the whole world knows it.... Please if you love country, you must also love peace by telling the truth!!

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