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South Sudan army clash with forces loyal to General Athor, 12 killed

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By Ngor Arol Garang

December 20, 2010 (ABYEI) — At least 12 people have been confirmed dead in what appears to be a surprised and renewed military confrontation between forces belonging to Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) and armed elements identified as loyal to General George Athor.

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General George Athor’s representatives to All South Sudan Parties Conference, Dok James Puok (centre) Abraham Thon (left) and Abiel Ring (right), in Juba, south Sudan, Oct. 19 2010 (ST)

General George Athor was one of the most respected and influential senior military officers of the SPLA, rebelled against the regional government, after the incumbent governor of Jonglei State Kuol ManyangJuuk, declared winner last April.

The general who had previously failed to get the party’s approval of his candidacy for the Governor of Jonglei accused officials from the south Sudan government led by the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) of fraud and vote rigging.

Speaking to Sudan Tribune on Monday from his base in the extreme northwestern part of Jonglei, in an area close to Malakal town, Capital of the Upper Nile State, Athor accused the SPLA of attacking his forces twice over the weekend.

"The SPLA forces from Khorliet and Khorwac launched two attacks on our forces on Saturday and Sunday, he said.

"This was part of organized attempt to execute orders (given by Juba) that some of my senior commanding officers and I should be captured alive and killed at the meeting we had recently with a delegation sent by president of the government of south Sudan to meet me," he stressed.

However the plot failed because he had been already informed about it before the meeting took place, he claimed.

"We were already getting enough information about this plan. We had the information of when and where they would initiate and launch an attack which they had planned to advance to the venue of the meeting," said Athor

The Southern Sudan President, Salva Kiir Mayardit,earlier this month issued a presidential decree to tasking a committee to discuss with the renegade to ways end his rebellion. The committee headed by Archbishop Daniel Deng Bul of the Episcopal Church of the Sudan.

Last October Kiir already granted an amnesty to Athor and his soldiers as well as other officers from the Other Armed Groups (OAGs) in southern Sudan aiming at uniting southerners ahead of a self determination referendum in January.

Athor accused individuals he did not name of being behind the attack on his forces, a charge some of the senior members of the southern ruling party were quick to deny and accused him of spreading unfounded allegations.

Biar Atem, an official from the government of south Sudan, in an interview with Sudan Tribune from Juba described the statement as "incorrect and backtracking statement".

"Nobody had the plan to arrest or kill George Athor. Everybody support peaceful dialogue initiated by South Sudan president, so he should stop giving out unnecessary and incorrect statements to the media," said Atem in a seemingly angry voice.

"There are no people plotting against him instead it is him backtracking efforts of South Sudan President to bring peace and unity of all South Sudanese including him and other traitors," he emphasized.

The official said all south Sudanese commended Kiir’s decision to pardon the rebel general and other forces.

"If you were in Juba in October and personally attended an all South Sudan Political Parties Conference held at Nyakuron cultural center, you might have observed how the whole conference commended decision of the president. This was also reflected in the resolutions passed after the conduct of the conference. If there were people opposed to the decision, it would have been observed," explained Atem.

However, Abiel Riing Majak, a member of the delegation representing General Athor in the ongoing discussions refuted Atem’s statements adding they have information that minister of internal affairs in the government of south Sudan, General Gier Chuang Aluong and incumbent governor of Jonglei State, Kuol Manyang Juuk where behind the recent attack.

"We are told that Gier Chuang Aluong was in Atar when the SPLA forces launched two consecutive attacks. It was him and Governor Kuol who were organizing these attacks through SPLA command forces in Juba to the local command."

Majak went to say that the two officials who are from Jonglei state had planned to capture Athor during a meeting with the delegation sent by Salva Kiir. He also accused them of attacking another rebel officer, David Yauyau who is in Pibor.

He said SPLA forces in Khorliet were part of the plan launched an attack on Saturday while forces in Khorwac reinforced the second attack on Sunday. Some 12 SPLA soldiers were killed and eight others wounded during the weekend attacks.

"We have reports that none of our soldiers has died in the attack. No one has been injured as well but 12 people on the side of the SPLA were killed and eight others sustained injuries and are currently in Malakal town," he said.

Colonel Philip Aguer Panyang, official spokesperson of the SPLA in an interview with Sudan Tribune from Juba confirmed the clash and described it as "sad and unfortunate development"

"Yes, I have heard of the clash. It is sad and unfortunate development and I cannot give out any detail now because I do not have enough information, said senior military officer," adding that he was out of the town.

"I have just returned from a trip. I was out of the town so give me some time to gather enough information about this incident," Aguer told Sudan Tribune from Juba.

The clash occurred three days after the South Sudan delegation comprising archbishop of Episcopal Church of Sudan, Daniel Deng Bul and Roman Catholic Bishop of Wau Dioces; Rudolf Deng Majak met and held talks with General Athor in his base.

The weekend fighting occurred two weeks before the run of a referendum on South Sudan independence. The renegade general previously said he does not want to hinder the historical vote.

(ST)

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  • 21 December 2010 08:17, by Gatwech

    Oh my God!

    If it is true, it is very sad indeed. How can Church Bishops like Daniel Deng Bul allow themselves to be used as a trap to George Athor?

    Are we turning into Godless and evil society?

    Oh, God, forgive South Sudan!

    What happened to the amnesty given to George Athor?

    Please, please, the leadership don’t allow military clashes with George Athor at this crucial time. It can flare up and turn ugly because the enemy can grab it.

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    • 21 December 2010 08:44, by landlord

      ya mr tot youl we need to wise my uncle Athor Deng Dut triable death and this warning is going to former defectors who just smuggling themselvise in death to all numbers of traitors inculding the nassir gang leader riek machar tendhurgonism death to nyangateen everwhere inculding in bentiu and juba

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      • 21 December 2010 13:45, by Deng Bornyang

        Don,t be a supid man who doesn,t reason well or else you must be sick because i don,t see the connection between Riek Machar and what your stupid uncle George Athor is doing.

        You need to read the news properly before posting your senseless comments on this web. And if the clams by your uncle are truth, Gier Chuang and Kuol Manyang are differend people. Stop those evil comments and baseless allegations. All i know is that people of Atar whom he killed when he was in Korfulous are the ones haunting him. If this would meant his death, he deserve it because if amnesty is nothing to him, nothing else we could do. These are crimes which we could not tolerate.

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      • 21 December 2010 16:23, by Machine

        Please Athor stop it or else you supper immediately after the referendum poll.We must a shame the devil by your severe defeat.God is washing your missionless attack on us Athor.Don’t think He will allow you to continue biting a hand that feats you.

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        • 21 December 2010 18:17, by saban John

          Dear brothers and sisters,
          First I would like to pass my sincere condolences to our fallen soldiers. It is very unfortunate to hear such a painful news. Why southerners are still killing one another,why we don’t learn from the past.

          My message to those preaching tribalism, I want to say that it is wrong. We should not bring Dr. Riek into situation. He is innocent in this case. I am not a Nuer but I know for sure that Nuer are better than the Dinka, that is reality. You keep saying Nuer are tribalist, that maybe there but is not too much like the one of Dinka. When you look at the history of Anya nya one and two you will notice that there was a fair representation. Anya nya, Aggrey Jaden as leader, Phillip Pedak, vice, they are from different tribes. Anya nya Two the same thing.

          When you look Spla, the first is John Garang, Kerubino, William. Why all are dinka in the first and second if you are not tribalist? how many tribes are in the south. Even after william Nyuon is Salva, arok thon arok, this are all Dinkas.

          You rape girls and women by force infront of their parents. what is this? how can you do that to your fellow southerners? aren’t this the people you are suppose to liberate? I wonder. I thought you guys stop, but still i called back home every week and hear that the Dinka rape a girl or if a girl does not want to marry them, they kill like what happen some few months ago where 11 family members from equatoria were killed innocent. And the girl was not refuse to marry him but the father said let her first finish her last year of school. The problem of Dinka is that they support each other no matter what. they don’t correct each other. This act will later on bring serious war if itis not stopped.

          I am a not tribalist, I have friends from Dinka, Nuer,equatoria and other tribes and I tell any of them directly about this things and they admit that it is wrong. Let us start to love one another and see each other as south sudanese not as a shilluk, a Bari, a Nuer a Dinka or a Latuka and so on.

          May God bless all and Merry Christmas

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          • 22 December 2010 01:56, by landlord

            sudan john if the top leadeship is Dinkas, that it meant Dinkas were majurity in the movement, due to ur stupidty you re doom to death if we rap woment that we were procted from arabe?than why re you carying since you re A Dinka becused we raped ur mother, fuck you and just enjoy the freedom brought to you by Dinka if we where all fighting arabe? Than why are we making peace with group of south anyagateen sinc we where together death to you son of bitch

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            • 22 December 2010 03:03, by saban John

              Landlord, you are a useless south sudanese.

              Someone who is intelligent would have sat down and think. Why other soldiers don’t rape your women. It is not because they are powerless but is because they respect people. you guys are subhumans.

              with regards to your madness about majority in army or fighting with arabs, I will not waste my time elaborating about it. you don’t know here I am from and you don’t know the history of liberation movements in south sudan. If you are to know, you would have not said what you have just said.

              Those who started liberating Dinka people since 1955 have not rape women and did not boast. as the Bible said, those who boast are stupid people. an intelligent person would fight but will not boast. You are a coward. I will not say anything bad to your mother or to Dinka because I respect her as a mother and your mother is like mother too.

              People like you who have no respect even for older people will not live long.

              thanks

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              • 22 December 2010 04:26, by landlord

                Son of bitch what do you try to say here is useless to me because coward people are people likes your paoa, mama, bro sister who just defect because there was no food during the war and if you want to talk to me son of poor man please you will be a shame of yourself because i m going to reveal more gad of your doom leadership death to nassir gangs.

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    • 21 December 2010 08:52, by Kiirpeter Chol

      Oh my God Why now?

      such developments have not to be at this crucial time for the south sudan historical turn, the story is fatal indeed to future of our people and our land south sudan.

      betten avoid all those political differences as per now for the betterment of our nation.

      my condolence to the families of those who might have lost their live if it truely accured.

      enough is enough our leaders.
      FEISTY FATALISTIC KIIR.

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      • 21 December 2010 13:03, by Covert

        Pin-heads like Athor never learn any lessons from the past in the cases of William Nyuon, Karbeno Kuanyin, Arok Thon Arok.

        If Athor want to live and enjoy the future of Southern Sudan, then he must come back to SPLM/A otherwise we will be sorry that his live will be short.

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    • 21 December 2010 09:11, by Bol Deng

      Gatwech,

      When i heard or see evil thing, my eyes and ears erect and start thing about ugly stuffs against our people. It seems that the only sense that i have is to read off the line and see things in opaque angle. This type of analysis always help me to understand those who are likely to be the curse to other communities.For sure, there is nothing against people like you because the nature is to be blamed on how things were already formed,and indeed, some images like your like has no recognition in any sort of in entire whole. i really equate you will that little guy called Nguetbuny because your minute brains has no value at this critical time because it has been blunted by tribal gods. please,you simply check yourself and your likes and you will be fine. Thanks

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    • 21 December 2010 09:40, by Kur William

      This is absolutely wrong if they were ploted to catch genreal Athor Deng during the meet with Juba delegates and then I can say that " we as southreners we have condemn such a move planned by Kirr with his groups; therefore if it was Athor who defying the amnest given to him by Juba goverenment however we urge the SPLA capacity to draw up it effort to force Athor with forces to surrender or got kill otherwise this dose not show any good faith again. Kur william from Bentiu.

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    • 21 December 2010 10:08, by junub

      Anybody who think our forces are wrong to protect our civilians from the militia of Athor is nothing but a mere jerk absence minded. Wheather it is true or wrong, Athor have to be brought to book dead or alive for the lives of innocent people he kill. All Dinka are awared that he Athor had let himself be used against his tribe by former pro-Arab militia Riek Machar because his ex-wife failed the election as well to governor Tyson Taban deng Gai of Unity State. Let the Athor go to hell with his Nuer militiamen. No condition arrangement to signed with him to integrated traitors into our army. I thought he Athor already knows when he was in our army that we had enough militia traitor in our army which we are to come up with the good mechanism of how to get ride of these lunatics, but not to absorbed enough nyagat again into SPLA army. So let be it, Athor will not wander in peace in that land of South Sudan again after he let himself be used by Nuer militia to wage war against his Dinka people.

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    • 21 December 2010 14:21, by Muor-cinkok Tungawan

      Please Gier, the time is over for killing, stop killing of southern Sudanese oppositions and look for other way of survival with your families. You had done great damaging within the society of southerners. The time has come to focus on development, enough is enough .if you had been rich of killing southerners, you would be rich in the days ago when you killed people without question from your Bose. These are not southern Sudanese of 80s, people in south are now belonging to communities which you don’t have chance anymore to killed anyone in your choice as you think to appeased the system. We are democratic region and we don’t want stupidity behaviors to continue like this blind attack to general Athor base. The attitudes of dreaming to murdering southern Sudanese is completely over and it is unacceptable thou in those days. For those who support this attack, killing ourselves is not only best option that we should priorities all time when we are dealing with problem. We have to learn to know how to deal with occasionally problems facing us within the south. Shame on you who support the war among ourselves, refrain from evil task or work because losing our veterans who fight for freedom is a crime and it does not granted us any value to enjoy even when we achieved independence of southern Sudan

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    • 21 December 2010 23:47, by LL Reuben

      Gat-witch,

      It looks like this is how your god ( Ngundeng) wanted things to be moving in South don’t you think?. Otherwise why would God need to forgive the South because of some insane person like Athor who doesn’t know what he want. Athor is following an example set during the struggle by those of Dr. Riek Machar and the rest of the olden days traitors who some of them are the main figures in today’s SPLM. Shame on those whose their vision is altered by the roar of their stomachs. Rebelt against the SPLM and be offered a better position, this is the trend, this kind of stupidity has always been. Shameless punks!

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  • 21 December 2010 08:29, by Biar-awumbeny

    It is indeed unfortunate development because going to war between us at this critical juncture is a real fake tactics in managing this trapped region of Southern Sudan. If at all president Kiir is behind this, then he might be playing with his own words. In addition to this, I didn’t get any attacking group always loosing to the attackees but in this situation of Athor’s forces, whenever they are attacked, they claimed to be the one who have won the battle. This is hypocrisy, even during the major war with Arabs they also lost as well. Are they troops coated with anti-bullets?

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  • 21 December 2010 08:32, by landlord

    yep hidding agender we donnot when traitors in our culture/tribe so there is no room for Deng Dut as A DINKAi WISE MR uNCLE ATHOR DENG ATRIABLE DEATH IN HIS LIVES, to hell with him

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    • 21 December 2010 10:16, by Genuine Leader

      Dear Landlord.
      please ostracize you incessant insane here.
      i warned you last week that, you don’t even know the behind doors secrets about Nyagateen and Nasers.
      stop here otherwise you be regret if’ i response you.
      make sure that your boss was instant Nasers and Kuol Manyang Juuk Chaw was first Nasers.
      believe me, iam not tribalist, but i don’t like to support any tribe issues and nonsense issue you ostentatious.
      Genuine Leader, the future leader war without border with jalaba if’ unity expose onto spla.

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  • 21 December 2010 08:44, by Bol Deng

    Affair game is needed to stop this greedy person.

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    • 21 December 2010 09:43, by Peter Elia Kuzee

      Brothers, we are southerns,separation is our aim and still you wants war. Can we rule our selve?
      Let us wait for confussion after separation.
      TO ATHOR, join you people. Not today run again back lastly you will see the result.

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    • 21 December 2010 09:49, by Genuine Leader

      incognito must be identify either from Athor side or president Kiir side.

      Genuine leader, future leader war without border with jalaba if’ unity expose onto spla.

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    • 21 December 2010 10:47, by Land-of-Cush

      Southerners
      Some of us will support Athor and some will be against him; but that will make no solution. Question! What prevent Athor not to rejoin the government after he was given special pardon by Kiir government? What stop him not to attend Juba meeting that combined all parties and all those that rebelling ’ including Akol in which Athor sent only his representatives?

      In the recent meeting delegated by Church ministries’ why he did not accepted the follow-up given by Kiir honest for Athor to rejoin his government with no doubt in which Athor still given some more conditions? Now he accused Geir Aloung and Kuol Juuk that they plan to sue him which is very wrong.

      If this two Dinkas attempt to have this plan; we the rest of south Sudanese would have to feel shame on Dinka community and put action on to that; because Kiir cannot pardon his people that announced to the whole world and kills them in the cold blood shad otherwise he can face ICC.

      To be honest this man will be in critical condition in which he will get kill or suicide himself (quote me).

      But make sure that this wouldn’t stop secession of referendum.

      I am a pure Land-of-Cush with no tribalism because I am belonging to you and you’re belonging to me. Without you and me no south Sudanese!

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  • 21 December 2010 09:50, by toposaboy

    Kirr is the problem for sure

    where is ABYEI?

    THE REFERENDUM OF ABYEI IS VERY important for south sudan
    with out ABYEI there will be no peace
    Athor keep doing it do not give up like kirr on ABYEI

    MOST OF US UNDERSTOOD YOUR MISSION

    with out ABYEI REFERENDUM DO NOT COME BACK ATHOR

    KIRR KILL ARABS NOT SOUTHERNERS SEND YOUR ARMY TO ABYEI

    TO FACE MASSARIYA AND NORTHENERS

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    • 21 December 2010 10:12, by junub

      Anybody who think our forces are wrong to protect our civilians from the militia of Athor is nothing but a mere jerk absence minded. Wheather it is true or wrong, Athor have to be brought to book dead or alive for the lives of innocent people he killed. All Dinka are awared that he Athor had let himself be used against his tribe by former pro-Arab militia Riek Machar because his ex-wife failed the election as well to governor Tyson Taban deng Gai of Unity State. Let the Athor go to hell with his Nuer militiamen. No condition arrangement to signed with him to integrated traitors into our army. I thought he Athor already knows well when he was in our army that we had enough militia traitor in our army which we are to come up with good mechanism of how to get ride of these lunatics, but not to absorbed enough nyagats again into SPLA army. So let be it, Athor will not wander in peace in that land of South Sudan again after he let himself be used by Nuer militia to wage war against his Dinka people.

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      • 22 December 2010 08:11, by AUGUSTINO DENG

        Hey Mr Junub,

        Your tone of writing sound like a sound of a weak person. You said that "George Athor had to be broght to book dead or alive for the life of innocent people he have killed". Are you sure that George Athor is the only one who have killed the innocent people in Southern Sudan?

        Mr Junub, fair judgement is the same like"2+2=4". In this arithematic, you can not said that 2+2=5. If you do that, then it is called as a "wrong calculation method". The same thing to the problem of General Athor Deng, I think he is not the only person to whom the Southern Sudanese Community learn rebelling from him. To be honest my dear, there is no any community in Southern Sudan which don’t have someone who rebel against the SPLM/SPLA except only Dinka Ruweng Community of Biemnom in Unity State. So, if you think that General Athor Deng has to be brought to book, then let as recall all they rebels such as Paulino Matiip Nhial, Gatdet Yak, Gabriel Tanginye, Dr.Riek Machar Teny, Mamur, and so many others to book.

        I don’t know why Southern Sudanese people rise complains on a very simple thing rather than a big one. I can said that it is a time for Dinka Paweny to rebel. So, let General Athor Deng do his job. How can you know maybe he will be a third Vice President like Dr Riek Machar Teny who is now a Vice President of Southern through his action that he carried against the SPLM/SPLA. I hope you know it very well if you were in the SPLM/SPLA. No one like death, but if it is encouraged or used as a tool for power, then why George Athor don’t deserve it as a tool to take him to power like the way some others leaders in Southern Sudan are now in power? SPLM/SPLA is a party for "Homeless" I will remain having no party to join even if I was in the SPLA Jech la mer of Tharpam.

        By Augustino Deng. Jech la mer from Tharpam

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    • 21 December 2010 10:31, by john

      Taposaboy

      I appreciate you today. You get long visions that let you see things out side the box. Actually some one is going to be blame in this incidence. The leave the major issues and started a stupid war among ourselves shame on some one who ordered the Spla army to attack Gen Athor base. Some one have to think twice before they act or they are bunches of idiots. If this conflict spoil the self determination referanda who is going to be blame or it is a curse. These are they signs said that we cannot be able to rule ourselves. We are doom to fail either now or later on because it seam there is a lack of leadership to let this happened. May be we need to call for fresh election God forbid we pass this movement successful. God blessed the people of south Sudan.

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  • 21 December 2010 10:10, by Garang Ngong

    21 Dec.2010 by Garang Ngong

    I wonder if the orginal citizen of South Sudan is still cuasing uncomfort situation in the South, where as our Country is bless with referendum,and we are left with few hours for freedom casting of vote. we better focuse on what Bashir is doing. you might have heard the bomb in the terrotry of Northern Bhar El Ghazal State.

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    • 21 December 2010 10:18, by Genuine Leader

      Dear Landlord.
      please ostracize your incessant insane here.
      i warned you last week that, you don’t even know the behind doors secrets about Nyagateen and Nasers.
      stop here otherwise you be regret if’ i response you.
      make sure that your boss was instant Nasers and Kuol Manyang Juuk Chaw was first Nasers.
      believe me, iam not tribalist, but i don’t like to support any tribe issues and nonsense issue you ostentatious.
      Genuine Leader, the future leader war without border with jalaba if’ unity expose onto spla

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  • 21 December 2010 10:48, by Nhomlawda

    To: Southern nationalists

    The timing of the attack was bad if it was initiated by the SPLA but military operations are legitimate respond to a rebel who had refused to accept government annesty unconditionally.
    Military operations against Gen. Athor and his forces should stop with immediate effect and annesty renewed for him and his soilders for another three months. He and his forces have to join SPLA and GOSS without conditions. If we reward somebody who rebels for no cause at all than it will encourage many people serving in the military to rebel in order to cause havoc and be rewarded with big positions with their cronies. Southerners should not accept to reward people who had committed serious crimes against the nation and innocent people with good live and luxury. Instead they should be tried and justice administered according to the law of the land on crimes of that nature.
    President Kiir should give Gen. Athor annesty extension for three months and watch his links with Khartoum. If he fails to utilize this second annesty window than he must be punished militarily after independence. Gen. Athor must know that he had angered all people of good conscience in Southern Sudan in general and Dinkas in particular including his own people of Atar except those criminals supporting his unjust cause and this annesty to join unconditionally is another way of saying we have forgiven you but never remind us about your crimes. No one in the South angered him and told him to initiate revolt against his own people. Instead it was too much money he had siphoned for private use from the military that persuaded him not to listen to wisemen advice not to leave the military and join political life to contest an election he was not prepared for an alternative outcome.
    I believe Gen. Athor is not a pure Monyjang, he would have calculated his chances of success before his bravery over took his good conscious and experience to conclude that military solution was the best option for him.
    He had to join SPLA humiliated and in a lower rank or face a sword after independence.

    Regards, Nholawda

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  • 21 December 2010 11:05, by AUGUSTINO DENG

    I don’t no why people complaint too much like this? Is this the first time for the people in Southern Sudan to experience the death? How many people passed away during the war time starting from those who were been killed by Dr.Riek Machar Teny, Matiip Nhial, Peter Gatdet Yak, Kerubino Kuany`nyin Bol, William Nyuon and Arabs as well? Were these number of people the same with the 12 people who passed away in the clashes of General Athor’s forces and the SPLA?

    I understand that no one like death, but death is an inevitable thing that come when there is a conspiracy between two opposes. So, George Athor Deng, might be wrong in alleging himself to this massacre, but who know maybe the SPLA is the one who attack his forces? To solve this problem, George Athor Deng and Salva Kiir Miyardit need to make a good solution to end-up this problem. If Dr.Riek Machar Teny rebel against the SPLM/SPLA, and then he become a Vice President of Southern Sudan, so why George Athor Deng don’t rebel in order to become a Third Vice President of Southern Sudan like when we have two Vice President in Sudan?

    I don’t advocate killing of the people myself, but, if the Southern Sudanese leaders assume killing as a "budget" in order to get into power, then George Athor Deng, has a right to move forward to achieve this goal. Everybody know that those of the Southern Sudanese leaders who are now hosting the SPLM/SPLA were all rebels and now they are getting more positions than those who were not even rebels. So, what is this mean to Salva Kiir Miyardit? If poeple know before in the Movement that those who rebels will be the people to lead, then everybody could already have been rebelled.

    For sure, as far as everything is concerns, this SPLM/SPLA become a party for "Homeless Leaders". People are shouting for "Democracy" always which they don’t even know the significant of it. Those who were against the SPLM/SPLA are they people who are now enjoying the "Fruit" of the CPA, while those who were been struggling enough to liberate are they people facing "economic Disaster". Whose blame is that if the people of Southern Sudan digested thing clearly?

    SPLM/SPLA is the party for "Homeless leaders" and I have to repeat this as well as I wanted it. I had been in Jech la mer since 1987 until this current time. Nothing good I have ever seen. I confronted alot of challeges myself in the SPLA, but I still applied my perseverences to ignore them. I’m so sorry to write this, but this is not all my attributions which I do have in my heart. I have alot.

    No thanks
    By Augustino Deng. Jech la mer from Tharpam.

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    • 21 December 2010 13:40, by Diu J.Kuek

      Dear Augustino Deng

      Please let your comment be relevance to the article so now you’r trying to tell us that General George Athor is right in his intrude act against the Government of Southern Sudan be clear with your comment don,t confuse people with your tribal hatred it was stated that one wrong doesn,t justify another. my friend your comment show nothing to us; only we see just lack of knowledge.
      As always your comments are contrary to the principle of peace and a form of insanity.
      may God bless the people of Southern Sudan

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      • 22 December 2010 07:20, by AUGUSTINO DENG

        Hey Mr Diu.K.Kuek,

        Whether General Athor is right or wrong, the key thing to put in mind is that who is the most disaster between someone who killed 12 people and a person who killed 10,000 people? You said that my comments are "contrary to the principle of peace and a form of insanity". It is true as you know what I mean in my artilce always. First of all, it is true that my article should be odd amongst the others articles because I’m not a kind of a person who supported a disaster. I’m not like you Mr.Diu.J.Kuek who depend on nothing.

        Second, I’m not a tribal hatred as you said. You know Mr.Diu.Kuek people like you are they kind of the people who are just being used for a profit by others people. Lastly, as a piece of advise to you, you needs to use your brain precisely instead of brain to use you. Don’t support what you don’t know.

        By Augustino Deng. Jech la mer from Tharpam.

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  • 21 December 2010 11:11, by Aleu

    I can tell that, General George Athor Deng Dut and his groups are trying to fools Southern Sudanese people, but whoever there don’t know the business for Athor is also a stupid person in Southern Sudan. The money have already purely to the hands of George Athor and his OAGS in the Bush by the Khartoum government to make destruction in Southern Sudan who doesn’t know that tactics, anyone can agree than being disagreeable, but you can understand the situation when the Officials from Khartoum government were saying and I quote, the Jonglei State, Upper Nile State, Unity State and Northern Bahr el Ghazal State all are not going to votes for the coming referendum election because of insecurity in those States.I hope you can understand now fully the nature of the currently situation in Sudan and this man Athor is not internesting to see what he was fighting for in two decades but he want to get the million dollars which left from Oil sharing fruad as a way of denying himself and his people of Dinka Luach Ngok of Upper Nile. He also want to create insecurity to his own community because when you against government thing will go in to detail and it will be very naughtly later on let him try and will back fire to him.

    It was a fully meaning that, the groups of George Athor Deng are been back by the same Old enemies of the SPLA and I think the Southern Sudanese in GOSS must be aware that, the reason why some of Generals have shown sincerely to rejoins SPLA while others of Athor groups are trying to block the boat when the River Nile is too close for Southern Sudanese to a cross and get lasting freedom.

    Please Southern Sudanese don’t let this man make you blinds, he is not longer one of those SPLA which they trust him during the 21st civil war. The position for governor is not own by any single individual why because this is a publice services that, anyone can have it for the time being and if you miss it then, you can still be alive just like many others who don’t have job but the point is that, in order to serve in the public services you must be honest person and respect yourself unlikely to General Athor Deng Dut who refuse to come after failing governor position this is so silly for him.

    General Athor Deng Dut was asking by GOSS president Salva Kiir Mayardit to come to juba so that, his case will be follow by Judges in a good way unfortunately, he refused and he was telling the president to remove Kuol Manyang Juuk first which will not happen to give order to your president to do this but because there was been observed and people noticed he is not acting alone but there is a lots of influence in his mind from the Old enemies of Southern Sudanese people which they are telling him not to accept any dealt even they are generating too much so that, Southern Sudan will stayed divide in order for Northern Sudan domination to get Southern Sudan back because the North Sudan government did thinking that, there is nothing more important for them than getting Southern Sudan back to continues looting billions dollars of Oil unfortunately, both General Athor Deng Dut with his groups and the Old enemies of Southern Sudanese will never success this time around. Southern Sudan land is big than what the loyalists of George Athor Deng and his groups think.

    The GOSS also must know that, there is no nation in the world that could get easily independence without such as bribes, loyalty, opposition groups, pessimistic, disagreement within but those people felt confidently that, they are committed to do something riht will let independence happen. For example, when the MOU MOU war of Kenyan started, a lots of Kenyan people were so loyalists been back by British however, the MOU MOU war did not give up until they found their lasting freedom. Those people who felt loyal to the Old system government, these are the people whom their minds not thinking in one thing because their minds seem to be between their own internests in another word short vision and for that reason they ignored themselves and they took wrong side in the wrong time at the wrong place.

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  • 21 December 2010 11:26, by toposaboy

    Thanks John,
    Any goverment of southern Sudan wants’ to unite southerners
    Must do this
    Take action against the enemy of southerners: Messariya and northerners
    Protect the country of southerners: start from ABYEI TO MIMULLE OR KAPOETA
    Kirr have shake hands with enemy given our oil to please the northerners that was BIG mistake by kirr
    Bombing of southern Sudan territory with NO response from the army
    Kirr is saying am the president of southern Sudan boooo Shiite : you can not even protect the very people you claim to be president

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  • 21 December 2010 13:31, by Luthern King

    I would like to gave condolence to the young men who sacrifice themselves for the sake of Southern Sudan, may God rise their soul in peace.
    May you allow me guys to say somethings about southern Sudan of ours guys,we may not get our right through "silver plate" at least we struggle.However,those people like George Athor the are spoiler of peace the are being brainwash by enemy whom we know. "Take heard" than let forgot about the passed, think of critically.MAY GOD BLESS SOUTHERN SUDAN.

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  • 21 December 2010 15:15, by Victory

    This is so ridiculous, Geogrge Athor has been forgiven by the president him self (silver kiir)along with other rebles group, how come other groups have accepted the pardon and re-joined the SPLM except Geogrge Athor alone? anyway the dog will never appreciate his master who feeds him,SPLM must take action regarding this flamble matter with athor,he must be brought before the table of Law,Athor hands is sought in the blood of the innocent souls he killed,he must pay the price for his action, Athor count him self as something, but indeed he is nothing but an NCP agent who has be a sign by the NCP to interrup the great vicotry a head of us in return of some millions of dollers, Splm must be vigillent with this so-called,Athor..may God bless south Sudan.

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  • 21 December 2010 15:31, by Joseph

    Dear southerners

    Let president accept George Athor demands peacefully. In some years back some top senior illiterates militia’s officers were integrated with their ranks in to SPLA forces in order to avoid bloodshed in the south why not to forgive those of Athor?
    Gier Chuong Aluong is root caused of these problems .During war time Gier was a body guard of late Dr John Garang and George Athor was a battalion commander in front line fighting with former foes, this is another problem of Athor . Things become via versa - upside down, Gier should not be a part of problem

    More then 100 soldiers killed in this war are not sons of Kuol, Geir or George. why you let soldiers died on private issues .these army should die on national issues .Shame on you guys. After referendum all of you will be out of power, if God guides southerners will. I need peaceful solution to the problem.

    The really revolutionaries of the SPLA are on the street of ten state of south Sudan now. If you let war break out again, then they will not go back to the bush again. Better to learn through mistake .this is a last chance. Omer Hassan El Basher is trying hard and harder to sabotage Referendum; He gave lots of billion Dollars to George Athor, Bona Malual Madut, Abdullah Deng Nhial and so many others Southerners who associated with Arabs. Don’t put a great hope on Europeans community, do your part effectively.

    The writer is a true liberator who never diverted or rebelled against any southerner since 1984 up to date

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    • 21 December 2010 20:57, by J G kuol

      > Mr.Joseph
      > Thank you kindly Sir for your service.
      > I’ve a handfull of veterans,who are my best friends.
      > I have learned a lot from veterans,real and genuine
      > liberators ,not self-centred ,seekers of fame and
      > wealth,but true men of integrity and character.
      > Thank you brother ,God bless you.
      From :J Kuol ,Farmer and conservative

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    • 22 December 2010 01:49, by Aleu

      J.G.Kuol and Joseph.

      The conference was been held in Juba and all Southern Sudanese oppositions to GOSS did respects to attend because the GOSS president had said clearly that, whoever was making a rebellion against Southern Sudan’s government have been forgiven and told them to come and rejoins the SPLM / SPLA and you will be giving your duty or assign but this George Athor did not attend at all.

      He was been asking for many times if he feel fear to making a rebellion then, he should let his groups to rejoin in to the SPLA as they were in the SPLA and stay home if he want and he refues to do any thing while others who were fighting with SPLA have already came to rejoin SPLA and they have no problem on that.

      This case of George Athor Deng Dut has nothing to do with blaming on Kuol Manyang and Gier Aluong. There are more details coming out from his group by saying George Athor Deng Dut himself has conncetion with Khartoum government. We must have to tell the true things rather than trying to cover up to the guy who is now helping our Old enemies of Southern Sudanese people.

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  • 21 December 2010 18:59, by Nhomlawda

    Joseph

    Gier Was not a threat to Athor when he was left in the army.
    Who is the most powerful by the way between a military general and a minister who is answerable to electorates and can be removed anytime from his post by either the president or by electorates?
    I believe Athor was very powerful than Gier when he was in SPLA as deputy CoGS (Chief of General Staff). If I could remind you that George Athor used to be handled with care, and no one could confront him even when he was wrong on some issues. So he was behaving like a king in SPLA HQs.

    The main issue with Athor is illiteracy and unhelpful braveness. He can hardly differentiate between a better position and a weak position. When he was in the military, he was powerful and people respect him so much to the level that he even became one of the richest southerners without any business establishment but no one question him because of his powers.

    Being a governor or a minister is just nothing to being a general. Accountability in the military is not so serious as it is in civil and political positions. A governor and a minister are easily held accountable for their actions than generals. You remember, two finance ministers were dismissed in GOSS because of financial misappropriation, tell me any general removed from the army without being redeployed into a senior position in the civil service or political post, no one. Mathok, Bior and Oyai were removed from the military to allow chance for others to come up in rank but they were given big posts in GOSS. But Akuen and Kuol Athian are now home and the same can happen to any other minister and governor.

    Athor made wrong choice to 1)resign from the army, 2)rebel after defeat in an election to justify his come back to SPLA and 3) refused a given annesty to return to SPLA unconditionally, therefore, stretching GOSS patience and holding GOSS hostage.

    I think elites from Ngok community need to help him out in some the decisions he makes otherwise you guys have to accept him as a lost son.

    Regards, Nhomlawda.

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  • 21 December 2010 19:11, by kuol M. Deng

    If Gier Chuang involved with an old SPLA political, tactical deception of plotting an attack against George Athor, it is pathetic! It is a political miscalculation to try capturing him alive. SPLA needs to stay away from "Street Justice!" The practice of injustice by SPLA since the start of conflict within mainstream, which caused lives of many, was, is and it will be a total destruction of South Sudan. I am not Athor’s supporter, BUT reality remains reality. We need to be patience. Stop attacking him, but continue pardoning him until he sees green light. If we keep attacking George Athor, we are sending away people who were angered by SPLA previously and currently causing corruption in the South, and it enables our enemy to have another route to use against South Referrendum. I condemned this attack, and it is a hateful, and an unstudied stragety. Peace is not attainable only through forceful act, but commmon understanding is to achieve common goal and purpose.

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    • 21 December 2010 20:43, by Jada Lotole

      My dear brothers ! Each time an article of this nature is published, 95% of the regular contributors to this forum sway away from the topic in question and resort into trading on baseless tribal sentiments. I kindly beg that we embark on real issues that will change our respective societies to the better ! We got to cool down our hot and negative tempers and think twice before we post anything on to this precious but spoiled forum now . Let us not write because we have to write but we should write because we have some substance to write ! We call ourselves the "Dot com generation or the Interlectuals but yet we trade on what the unlearnt dont trade on ! who are we then ? Ask yourself and I should do the same too ! None of us the ordinary citizens can tell who first ignited the fire exchange between the Gallant SPLA and Author’s loyalists . We therefore dont need to reach a deduction and dump blames on one party . Both parties are our people and by the way Athor is not resisting the SPLA armnesty as an individual but as a siezable group. Let us not put aside the spirit of settling our issues as sons and daughters of this land of south sudan. If we do fail to resolve our issues at home, then our foes shall laugh at us ! and am afraid again if we do fail to solve our differences, then Somalia is encroaching us and gradually, we will become somalia and you nkow very well the implication of being " A Somalia " Mark You !!!!!!

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    • 21 December 2010 21:49, by Machingela gai

      The Land of Cush is correct by saying it that Mr. Athor Deng is not willing to join SPLM so far. He would have joined SPLM/A Via conference called in Juba in Oct when Kiir himself declared a considerable pardon on their come back safeguiding, which then allowed these people of Lam Akol and Gabriel Tinganya to join South. Athor wasn’t there and no one knows his whereabout at the time until his sent delegation arrived to Juba to prepare the road ahead of him.

      During the process, UN and the SPLM depolmats went to his base after his delegation made a breakthrough with them in Juba, Athor isn’t convinced to accept Juba invitation.
      What do you all think he had in his mind while every step taken by UN and the SPLM was favoring peace intaitive? It is everyone’s guest to come up with the right answer than these manufucturing opinions we are wagging.

      I have concurred with Mr. Cush that Mr. Athor Deng is not after faithful ending of what he has started wrongly. He is looking for ways to make it like he thinks and humiliate SPLM and its leaders, including those two ranking figures he just mentioned in his sent out blame. He is trying his very best to show that the good servants of the nation are the worst among the rest. He is not alone doing this. There are yet to be known people behind him, supporting his cause. It is a guest of confusion that might be true, who knows...

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  • 21 December 2010 21:03, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

    Dear Southern: The top leaders are playing devile Games

    Kuol Manyang Juuk have pleasure of commanding SPLA far away from enemy bullets. The first lacky Garang formers who got hight ranking from start of SPLA,enjoy the commands and killing other people children by sending them into wrong war. And fire squard others.

    Gier Chuang Aluong enjoy Guarding Garang and send him to schools,that teaches him mischievious tricks of murder minded. These people are running the SPLA as their own Property. Not a people to worry about their life. I do not think Athor room while Gier is in power. They are fighting their sectional war with Athor.

    Athor has been in the fronline for many years,He never got political training or school to upgrade his skills in Politics. It make him easy target of being over power of by close Garang group. Also his Ngok tribe are non politicians that do not detects the trick early before it broke their backone.

    Paweny and Pandeng problem are fighting their inner conflict through Gier use souther Goss. With in thier Sub-Ngok Tribe Conflict and he is carrying it as southerner problem. Most of Paweny fears Athor that he will bully them in SPLA/M leadership. As they have fought their little war locally and now they carried to Goss killed him.

    NguenDeng have told all those History. Kuol,Kiir,Gier wanted to kill Athor. They stood firm tieeep, it said they wanted to kill him for peace.It said by Nguendeng song that after Marol kat, "Caa Kueer nag ee Gier". which mean leadership.

    Soo the future of the sudan is not yet save after Arab is defeated. Old Garang murder minded is still running the system. They have a plot that will cause theirs life in the near future. Those top will dispear some some day. According their Action now. The more mistake they make,the more problem increase for their life and sudanese life too.

    Tone of liberator.

    Nguetbuny

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    • 21 December 2010 22:42, by Machingela gai

      Guetbany, I am so sorry to hear a person of your kind speaking like a peace hater. This is a great shame in writing to bring up sub-clans’ issues in public for discussion. But if there is anyone out there to refute these lies back, I don’t think you will be right on every weakness you rest Athor’s rebellion on. These claims are very cheap and shallow to be considered true anyway. For one, I have never heard anything secret between Gier and Athor, leave Kuol Manyang alone in which Athor had been a junior officer serving under him for many years in the movement. You need to know history. If Gier, Kuol, and Kiir are one group, then don’t count out Mr. Athor Deng from that murdering squad you listed. Athor killed alot too like the rest you mentioned above if it is the case. He was Garang’s golden boy in terms of his close relationship with him.
      How insane are you to talk negatively about your only hope SPLM and its leaders. I think you are speaking up your head for what you don’t know the great benefit you will get in the end, the so called Southern freedom. Your tone is not a tone of liberator as you claimed, but it is instead a tone of collaborator in thinking and in speaking.

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    • 21 December 2010 22:49, by kuol M. Deng

      Gen. Athor needs to be surrounded and detained for long time. I am neither supporting athor’s idea, or his rebellion nor be attacked by SPLA. Gier must stop SPLA’s old method of murdering people against their wills. This time and that time are different. How many children and women are orphans and widows by the cause of SPLA?

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    • 21 December 2010 23:00, by Stephen Gatloth K

      you are right,this SPLM leadership is from bad to worst that was proved by the april general election that led to the rebelion of George Athor against this corrupted gov leads by Kiir and driving by drunkards people like:Gier Chuang,Taban Deng Kuol Manyang i mentioned the few.
      What is the amnesty degreed by GOSS president recently for?
      Is it military statigy to capture Athor alive as mentioned by stomach fighter Gier Chuang?
      Hee it is very unfornute to hear this shocked news.If Kiir him self is aware of waging war against Athor when at the same time he (Kiir) dellegated people to negaciate with Athor,we are very sorry.
      What can prove Kiir as a president of this big nation,if his degree he made is not respected?
      I am very sorry. Can the Almighty God pour his peace on these people and conduct this very enent peacefully.
      Thank you God for guarding and continou guarding as.

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  • 21 December 2010 23:26, by junub

    You guys cracking your minds about Athor, thug had his timing clock of his fate ticking. If there’s anyone still thinking that Athor might walks free on the land of South Sudan, then that person might be dreaming nightmare because
    Athor is needed wheather dead or alive. This a man who had turned against his own people, Dinka. So to hell with him and had to eat dirt wheather some coward like it or not. Athor have proved to people that he’s absence minded traitor if at the end he let himself be fooled by traitors that just because his mom is from Nuer tribe, so he will get overwhelming support from them. He should have let Riak Machar bring it on but not him to be used by these bunch of traitors. Riek didn’t want his x-wife to stage the war in Unity because he know the consequencies of it, and that why he used Athor to indirectly fight his and his x-wife’s for them in another state. But let keep our fingers crossed because soon than later, he Athor will rotten in his hide out bushes of Korfolus. Because he had wage war against his Dinka people, there’s no compromise or forgiveness, period.

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    • 22 December 2010 02:03, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

      Propaganda lied Junub, Gai every evile denied one.

      Against what Dinka? Athor have no problem with any civilians now a day.

      He is not killing any Dinka than the SPLA soldiers that are running after him. SPLA now are the problematic against Civilians. Gier Chuang have send Soldiers with his Groups inorder to go murders and Rape Ngok women and properties.

      But they never for got until their death. Nobody going to rules south with violence and live forever. Athor will died and they will follow him soon,if they succeed killing him. Anyone who is after him will died. Fire with fire and peace with peace. We did not go to buushe for one purpose.

      Tone of liberator

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      • 22 December 2010 18:24, by Citizen

        Hey the so call Nguen Buny de Luelpiny,

        Defending the empty vessel is just like somebody chasing wind, you pretend to be shielding the traitor Athor, that is a weakness in you and be inform that Athor as I have learned is a grimy brainless element who don’t even know who is clothing his underwear, keep on pretending, you will both end up in the no man zone.
        For you information; you may not know what Athor is after, yours is just jumping in the pot like a grubby fly, Athor my friend is receiving command from Khartoum believe it or not, u may be out of ur mind don’t pretend to be innocent of what Athor is after, watch out, unless you r contrary to the Southern Gold where your mum is still a victim, enjoy that kiosk network under ur bush silently.
        Responding to Athor’s refuted allegation that SPLA, Kuol and Gier were after him, that is a great lie, can any one of reasonable mind imagine what benefit would the two generals gain if they hand pick the So called renaged Athor, will the benefit of his capturing be equated with the peaceful referendum that is expected in two and half weeks time?

        Athor can always be proven a gr8t liar, if his statement can be compared.
        "In the attacked in Doleib hill, Athor refuted that, they government had wanted to capture him and bring him to Juba by force that is why he went to Khorful after losing the election" lie.
        "He sent his tribemen and loyalt groups to force in the army barrack and break in the gun store, and then began shotting indiscriminately on the soldiers, when he was asked he pretended that he did not heard or not know what they soldiers have done" if he is to be question, under whose’s command did the soldiers who alleged to be loyalt to him carried out the act? that is his another proven lie. Mark my words.

        Under the above article, his soldiers (Athor) were reported to have ambush SPLA in the Area and killed 14 and injured more others, when asked he craft his fake allegations that He did it (attack) coz there was a rumors that, there is a flood to capture him dead or alive by the GoSS president and two others, why would H.E the president Salva Kiir Mayar plan to do that, when he personally issued the amnesty to all the rebels, when he entrusted that work of peaceful reconciliation to the two Bishops, Right reverence Lord Daniel Deng Bul and Paul Lokudu. I don’t think any body of sound minded may think that way in this critical time, coz everybody knows how sweet peace is. And by the way, the public need to learned that H.E Salva Kiir Mayar did not issued an amnesty coz of anybody else if not because of the rebellious man Athor. Believe me guys.

        Therefore, I advices those who are finding this allegation sweet in their ears to refrain, coz what was reported from Athor are allegations that are not founded and they (Athor and co-) only want smear their embrassing ambush on their head and on the innocent people so that the secret of their Attack during the peace initiative and referendum time would not be rooted. wait next time, he will not only end there.
        You should all watch out.

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        • 23 December 2010 22:18, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

          Hi@Citizen

          What the main cause we have been fighting for in sudan?
          To empower murders leaders and murders future sudanese people?

          The route cause of southern division Anya nya II was these cause. It ruin our liberation movement for sudan for a long time. Those bloody mischieviou Acts of people who wanted to control everything and not open to some others people Ideas. Or some other people complain of injustic, we have been fighting give to everyone in sudan. But not the way as we are seeing it now among ours liberators fighters.

          This is animals farm history by Goerge Orwell,
          the Britian writter. What i am seeing in sudan now

          If Athor coporate with Khartuom, is to protect his life and his people from threat by some individual in SPLA/M. He is not against Southerners nor Sudanese in general. And the whole SPLA/M accept those he has problem with them.

          that is why people threatening. They cool Dau down because Majority that could On top leaders.

          There are evile time where person can Allied another evile to live. Britian,America Allied with Russia against their Brother Germany. Germany was geting butchers. And after that,begin the cold war again with Russia Soviets Union.

          The human being have many way to survive. supporting ruling with murders will never be allow any more in Sudan. Khartuom will be gone and African will rules sudan for ever. No individual will be allow rule with cruelity plots.

          It is Athor problem now and next time will their problem; africa. everyone eyes is opne this time. No more fooling. Some threatening with life other people with killing can be threatening the same action they used to do to others. people are getting intelligence quicker and sudan is getting smaller quickers. Mean days are numbering too past.

          We did not go to bush for one purpose

          Tone of Liberators

          Nguetbuny

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