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IGAD mediators propose to ask South Sudanese to choose between 32 or 10 states

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Sudan's FM Al-Dierdiry Ahmed meeting South Sudanese parties at a session with Party leaders on the evening of Monday 25 August (Photo Nuur M. Sheekh/IGAD)
August 27, 2018 (KHARTOUM/JUBA) - The IGAD mediation team has proposed to hold a referendum asking South Sudanese to choose between the 32,10 states or any other alternative set by the Independent Boundaries Commission (IBC).

The disagreement on the number of states remains one of the issues that the South Sudanese parties continue to discuss without reaching a deal on it.

On Sunday, the mediation handed over a proposition providing to make it clear from now that if the parties fail to reach a consensus on the number of states, the referendum, which is maintained as the default option, should give people the possibility to choose between different choices including the current number 32 or 10 states demanded by the opposition.

According to the text of the proposal seen by Sudan Tribune, the referendum commission (RCNBS) will ask the South Sudanese to choose between the following option:

"The IBC (Independent Boundaries Commission) proposal for rectifying the boundaries of the 32 states, the 32 states, the 21 states, the 10 states (or) any other number of states agreed by the IBC to be offered as an alternative".

The opposition alliance (SSOA) reject the "unilaterally imposed" 32 states and calls to keep the old 10 state as the default solution - not the referendum - if the parties fail to strike a deal within the framework of the IBC.

Aware that local communities in different states reject the 32-states system because it gives their land or a disputed land to another community, the mediation said the Technical Boundary Committee (TBC) will settle this issue first through drawing a map of "tribal boundaries of 1.1.1956 that were violated by the 32 states".

Once the mapping is done, the IBC will propose rectifications for the boundaries of the 32 states found as violating tribal boundaries of 1.1.1956.

Also, "the IBC shall agree by consensus, and on the basis of its already set guidelines, on number and boundaries of states (...)," further stressed the new proposal.

The South Sudanese parties had to conclude on Monday Morning the discussions of the bracketed issues and initial the final document in the afternoon.

But as late as Monday evening, the mediation did not make any statement about the progress made in the talks.

It worth mentioning that the SPLM-IO, also, expressed concern about the permanent constitution-making mechanism and objected that the National Constitutional Review Commission (NCRC) be tasked with the drafting of the new constitution.

The organization of the National Constitutional Conference "should be handled as a people-driven process that reflects the aspirations and the will of the people of South Sudan, rather than be a government-driven process," said the SPLM-IO on Sunday.

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  • 28 August 00:19, by Malakal county Simon

    Since the so called 32 states causes land disputes, communal inter-tribes and clans wars, it’s should be put on hold and move on with either 10 States or 21 States.... The 32 states should not hold current ongoing peace hostage, it’s somethings for people’s of South Sudan to decide later....

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    • 28 August 01:24, by Kush Natives

      Malakal county Simon,
      We’ll go for referendum period, 32 states are not going nowhere, nonsensical of 10 states or useless 21 states. We have been in 10 states before and none did not stop Nuer from cattle wrestling. Prepare yourself to be in bush for life!

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      • 28 August 02:30, by South South

        I am for referendum, period.

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        • 28 August 12:21, by jubaone

          South South
          With over 2m internally displaced, over 4m as refugees in neighboring countries, financial as well logistical constraints of reaching all SS, repatriation and registration of all legible SS, insecurity in most parts of the country, etc..etc..this referendum is just unrealistic. It also doesn’t mention how, when, by whom and especially who will finance this exercise. Just rubbish

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          • 28 August 13:43, by South South

            jubaone,
            Let our leaders agree to hold referendum to decide what people of South Sudan want. Bring back all refugees from neighboring countries, mKe sure that all IDPs are back to their homes, then hold referendum. This will be the best thing for South Sudan regardless what majority choose between 32 and 10 states.

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            • 28 August 18:57, by jubaone

              South South
              Now you’re talking sense. What still remains is putting up a water-tight mechanism for the referendum. However, such presupposes that peace prevails and all ethnicities return to their ancestral lands. Again, who will finance this, how and when? If this fails, what next? The way to the suggested referendum is hopeless. This is opening the Pandora box. Kiirminal is to blame

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      • 28 August 06:08, by Games

        Kush Natives
        One way another, you would probably the ones that could lose his ancestors lands to others tribe or clans within your community when that lands war happening. 32 or 1000 states wouldn’t stopped the cattle raids amongst the communities. You can not also stop Nuer for the revages on their loves that were killed by their owns government in 2013, even if you have built a walls between co

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        • 28 August 07:29, by Jongo

          Malakal,Kush,Southx2,Games & Dinka
          Guys why you are fighting between 32,21 or 10 states take one choice not available among these & stop the fight let me forward to you the eleven commandment (3 Magical Regions) Greater Equatorial,Barghazal & Upper Nile & let each region divides itself into whatever This the best ever keep South Sudanese United Agree On or Equatorial Region simply will Break away

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        • 28 August 09:41, by Kush Natives

          Games,
          We have all those options on the table now, don’t act this start with Salva Kiir, you have been ridding this tiger for a long time, ask your boss, why did he created 21 states in the first place? Why 32 states became too much while celebrated 21 states? I will repeat myself, referendum or leave it alone. 3 regions are still there as they were.

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    • 28 August 06:55, by Joyuma John

      Those rebels who are refusing for referendum on number of state, they have ran out of ideass and I do not think they will convince south Sudanese people during up coming election to vote for them, if this idea was enforced by kiir on people then let us go,for,referendum to judge people reaction. Reversing 32 states, even kiir who came up with this idea should not reverse on around table k

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      • 28 August 12:27, by jubaone

        Joyuma John
        If your Kiirminal uncle didn’t even conduct a referendum on 32 states, why should we do it now? No. We revert to the default state of 10. Anything outside this is worthless. As Equatorians, we thought jienges would now go back to their junk states to develop them, funny though, these states were used as scapegoats for amassing development funds. Thieves and goons.

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        • 28 August 20:06, by Joyuma John

          Dear Jubaone, are you aware that the 10 states we chewing fate about did not even come from us as south Sudanese , if you want it badly to combine,your state with any state, then come up ask them if they can accept,you to form one state, I shall not be having a problem on that.

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  • 28 August 02:36, by Dinka-Defender-General

    I’m for 10 states.

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  • 28 August 02:37, by Dinka-Defender-General

    I like the IGAD idea of asking South Sudanese citizens, instead of politicians.

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  • 28 August 02:49, by One people

    In my opinion. Leave Those 32 states issues for citizens and ND to talk about it and to vote for it, than take it to barlaman to make it clear, than take it to the press and vice press to sign it into the law. There are some states that will never agree to go back to 10 states again because they are happy with their new life. All they think about is how to make their state as the best state in SS

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    • 28 August 05:38, by Mike Mike

      What has been proposed by mediators is the right suggestion that will be really convincing each and everyone who insisted to have right in his/ her ideas on the two disputed points. There is a problem of land dispute now all around and it was caused by the creation of 32 States and referendum may resolve it peacefully.

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  • 28 August 05:49, by Games

    IGAD are playing very dangerous politics here in the South Sudan. They knew itbvery that the 32 states is voilenting of the human rights, but still insist to impose them on the peace loving people in this country. These 32 states must be dismantled for sake to prevent the tribal war.

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  • 28 August 06:48, by Eastern

    The outcome of that shoddy referendum would set the stage for the next war.....Just watch this space!

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  • 28 August 07:02, by Eastern

    Albert Einstien once said, "The problems that we face cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them." How true.....?! Cattle camp politics cannot bring a lasting peace and stability. The country had Wunlit peace conference in 1999 and many other peace conferences including the stillborn ’national dialogue’ in Juba: the country still remains at war....

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    • 28 August 09:14, by Paul Ongee

      I am just wondering why some party leaders believe dat this ongoing peace process in Khartoum is a "bargaining chip" where one can impose his/her political ideas. Popular opinion can be tested at home in a referendum, parliament or election. If Khartoum failed to vote for a South Sudanese to be president in Sudan since 1956, why do u think it’s easy in South Sudan?

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      • 28 August 09:29, by Paul Ongee

        Instead of South Sudanese to decide the number of states in a referendum, they struggle to persuade mediation team to agree with their ideas. They do not know that South Sudanese now want even more states created, leave alone the 32. Cattle rustling and intercommunal conflict were there before Omer Al-Bashir created the 10 states. Why Bashir did not go for 21 states or keep the (3) regions?

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        • 28 August 12:31, by jubaone

          Paul Ongee
          Why didn’t you ask your kiirminal uncle to first ask junubin whether they were for 32 states or not? To come now and try to play the smart jienge academic is stupid and self defeating. It only reinforces our assertion that most jienges follow their benydits/bandits like marching cows.

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  • 28 August 07:58, by Bridging Gap

    The mediators should put forward the former 3 Regions on the table and this does not means separation or else try confederate system where each region has their own system of running the affairs with their representatives eg 5 from each region to form National government under the president.

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  • 28 August 08:12, by Nuer Kanguan

    What so call International Community are making cool business, the Genesis of this crises is not from state issues, South Sudan are being confuse every now and then without defining about the roots cause of all this.

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  • 28 August 08:13, by Lenin Bull

    The Nuer mindlessly started the 2013 tribal war thinking mistakenly that they would magically win it within a three hour battle in Juba. They lost it badly. They poorly transformed that failure into a bloody rebellion where they mercilessly killed all Dinka civilians, elderly, women, children, mad/blind/crippled people, but they never gained anything except sin against GOD.

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    • 28 August 09:52, by Malakal county Simon

      Linenbull

      concocted lies is dangerious!!

      Well-docmunted that 20,000-50,000 Nuers were killed by the insecure president due to fear of Dr Machar of being elected as a SPLM/A chairman if convention were called. Where do you get such a predicament notion of Nuer were the one starting the senseless conflict?? If you dont know the roots causes, please ask your colleagues before you air-out more lies!

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    • 28 August 12:37, by jubaone

      Lenin Fool
      Now for all Jienge atrocities in Equatoria, we still have an open deal. You settle that deal with Nuers, ours is still in the pipeline. Whether now, 2,5,20 or even 100 years blood can only be cleansed with blood. You started it with Equatorians, then lets take it to the bitter end. Simple. The winner takes it all. Case closed. Next.

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  • 28 August 08:23, by Lenin Bull

    NGUNDAENG ghost captured Riek’s mind and made him think that he can win the minds and hearts of the people of South Sudan by creating the poor 21 states based on Nuer interests and greed. This made President Salva Kiir to fight back by creating the 28 states and later 32/3 states and Riek lost that war badly. Riek is going to regret for eternity when we go for referendum.

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  • 28 August 08:32, by Lenin Bull

    The Nuer are numbskull otherwise the 10 states were to their best interests( Unity State by a Nuer governor Joseph Nguen Monytuil, Jonglei by a Nuer governor John Koang Nyuon, and Upper Nile State by a Nuer governor Simon Kun Puoch). The Nuer Urinated and defecated in their own plates of food by destroying their own home Upper Nile Region. To what good is the 10 states again? Stupid.

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  • 28 August 08:38, by Lenin Bull

    Let us go for referendum folks. Those who don’t want referendum should be prepared for whatever they wish war, peace, or suicide. If the Nuer are mad, then not all South Sudanese people have mental problem. South Sudan will never have meaningful peace till this recurrent madness is dealt with squarely. Time is coming.

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    • 28 August 09:31, by Games

      Lenin Bull
      Praised for Uganda government and the state resources that Salva Kiir were used to hired foreigns fighters to fight on his behave. Even Salva Kiir know very well, a war with Nuer alone can not win it

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      • 28 August 11:31, by Khent

        Game

        The only reason you were able to pose a threat to Salva Kiir is because that moron allowed you to constitute over 70% of the army when you people returned in 2006 — after decades of serving the ’Arabs’ in the North. You failed in the 90s, even when you had the entire SAF on your side, so you’re not a threat, even when you establish alliances with Khartoum.

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  • 28 August 15:43, by Sunday Junup

    32 states came though Iron rod ruling by degree not by People. The same way 32 state came into being is the same way they should disappear! why cracking people mind? If Salva Kiirimnal is not yet ready for Peace then let wait for Alcohol to define his fate. That would be the real peace

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  • 28 August 20:27, by Manila James

    I think there should be a better way of doing this issues of states, I suggest that the issues of 32 states should be narrowed to particular states which have tendency I believe that not all the 32 states have got problems now, otherwise I fear that there will be problems behind if the real issues are just handled as general issues.

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  • 29 August 19:40, by ARLIWA

    Revert back to 10 states and have the people choose if the want to merge of split. It has to be people driven choice rather than DeKiiree.

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    • 29 August 19:43, by ARLIWA

      Revert back to 10 states and have the people choose if they want to merge of split. It has to be people’s driven process rather than DeKiiree.**

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