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Sudan's FM Al-Dierdiry Ahmed meeting South Sudanese parties at a session with Party leaders on the evening of Monday 25 August (Photo Nuur M. Sheekh/IGAD)
August 26, 2018 (KHARTOUM) - The mediation has proposed a compromise to the South Sudanese parties to settle the difference over the number of states, said the semi-official Sudanese Media Center on Sunday.

The IGAD mediators chaired by the Sudanese foreign minister El-Dirdeiry Ahmed launched on Saturday the peace discussions after the Eid al-Adha break.

During the first three days, the parties will only discuss the bracketed issues including the number of states, the role and functions of the First Vice President, the creation of new five ministers, the NCR and preparatory commission for the national constitutional conference.

"IGAD sources revealed that the Sudanese and IGAD mediation filled a proposal to the South Sudanese parties to overcome the disagreement over article 4 on the number of states and boundaries," said the SMC.

The sources further stressing that it is possible to resolve the dispute over the (number of) states through mutual concessions to achieve a sustainable peace in South Sudan. but didn’t develop on the nature of the proposal.

While the government accepts the idea of a referendum that it launched in February 2016, the opposition forces call to pick on the three options the reestablishment of the 10-states administrative system, three autonomous regions or 79 counties.

In addition, the opposition groups put on the negotiating table a proposition providing to resort to arbitration in case of failure to strike a deal through the Independent Boundaries Commission

According to the SMC, a significant progress has been achieved in the talks, so far, and a report has been sent to the IGAD leaders about the talks.

In a twit posted on Saturday night, Nuur Mohamud Sheekh, a Senior Political Officer, at the Office of IGAD Special Envoy for South Sudan discoed in a Twitter message posted on Saturday night that Sudanese foreign minister held a meeting with the Party leaders to discuss the persisting disagreements in the talks.

"There’s no alternative to peace and an agreement to end the conflict must be a priority for the parties - the solution lies in your hands, he tells the party leaders," El-Dirdeiry said, according to Sheekh.

The mediators scheduled to hold the initialling ceremony of the final document on the revitalized peace agreement on Monday 27 August at midday.

Talks on the implementation matrix will start on 29 August and last for five days.

In another Tweet on Sunday evening, Sheekh said "Delighted to see South Sudan parties make a significant progress. Clearly talks are being conducted in a good faith and parties making concessions for the sake of peace!".

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  • 27 August 00:12, by Masiah

    Right, they making progress by paying money to dismental others parties,

    One thing i learn about this peace talk in Khartoum,
    Bashir government smart have two plan

    1- compulsory peace that will last in 2 years
    2- Sign deal of oil that have nothing to do war in south sudan

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    • 27 August 19:45, by Joyuma John

      Issue at the number of state to me can not derail peace process, let states which were divided by salva kiir degree’ when they were not willing to be done so, write request for their combinations their state and let those who,are comfortable with current states continue as they are, full stop

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  • 27 August 05:35, by Games

    Pukuai
    Your sick mentalities to rules for life is ending soon. Salva Kiir is term in the office was ended on 26/08/2018. So your sick regime must have to agree on what is best for all Southern Sudanes in the future. 32 states were created by Salva Kiir and his Dinka alone for the interest of the Dinka community. However, in the reality, nobody is actually wanting to lives with your alike.

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    • 27 August 07:08, by jubaone

      The issue of number of states in non negotiable. We go for the 10 states then resolve the issue of ethnic and tribal boundaries during transition period. Jienges must be idiots to think they can grab peoples ancestral lands and give them off to jienge settlers and squatters. No. In Nimule worthless jienge Bor snitches have taken over Madiland yet their own Jonglei is now peaceful. They must quit.

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      • 27 August 07:14, by jubaone

        The kiirminal brazenly buried his first/second wife? in Madiland though his village in Gokrial was peaceful. Instead of taking the remains of his wife back home, the kiirminal wants it in Madiland so that he has justification to grab more Madiland and claim ownership. No. Whether now or later we will make sure jienges bury their own in their ancestral lands.

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        • 27 August 08:27, by jubaone

          The number of states and ethnic boundaries is very sensitive for any long term peace deal. Jienge Bor squatting in Nimule MUST return to Bor in order for Madi Equatorians to come to their ancestral lands and organize their livelihoods. Jienge settlers have no rights idling in Madiland now that Jonglei is peaceful. Peace is coming and jienges from Bor must be going. Simple.

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          • 27 August 11:24, by The Rhino

            Jubaone,

            Excellent points!South Sudan must be reverted to 10 States or better 3 original Regions.They’re administratively easier to manage and financially affordable to fund.After that,..all jienge drifters,land grabbers,rapist and murderers mandatorily expelled out of Equatoria.Kiir and some of his greedy jienges who have falsely convinced themselves and buried relatives in our soils....

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            • 27 August 11:33, by The Rhino

              Jubaone,
              ...must unequivocally plow the remains of their people out and carry them back to Bor or Kuajok.Equatoria is not a jienge cemetery.Taking remains of dead people back to their origins is a long African tradition of resting spirits and souls of the dead ones into eternal peace,otherwise they’re just damned evil ghosts.Jienges must learn how to be independent and develop themselves.

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    • 27 August 19:29, by Joyuma John

      Mr.Game it is too earlier to celebrate when Salva kiir term might be over, we do not know who will be kiir successor,must be Dinka who may be slashing you with snake

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  • 27 August 05:47, by Games

    Most Southern Sudanes must be better off living with Snakes than your sick community. .there are so many signs that suggest that your community cannot look after themselves properly, the occupation of Equatoria lands, Shilluk lands and Nuer. If you have hates these communities lots like the ways you had stated, why don’t you moved your community out of Equatoria Region to your pathetic land.

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  • 27 August 05:57, by Games

    Three regional or 10 states are the only options where most people in this country would agree on. If you Dinka want to lives alone, we Southerns Sudanes would talk and divide our communities according to lands bases, every tribe knows their boundaries with their neighbours tribe in this country. Salva Kiir knows nothing specifically about the boundaries. He just went according to what his patheti

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    • 27 August 05:59, by Games

      He just went according to his pathetic JCE tells him to do

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      • 27 August 07:40, by jubaone

        For the jienge republic to suggest that SS should go for referendum on the number of states is outright stupid. The Kiirminal didn’t ask Junubin on that matter and therefore making it an issue during peace negotiations is unacceptable. Either we go for the 10 states "status quo" or such parties in SSOA pull out.

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      • 27 August 08:24, by Jongo

        Games That’s correct Jenge always are the problem & need to be wipe out & erased from the Globe Equatoria must be free Now implement only two options 3 Regions or 10 states is the best options or no peace Equatorian had their rights to fight for their occupied lands by those idiots dirty empty mouth so call jenge Go home to your dirty luaks or else

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        • 27 August 08:32, by jubaone

          Jongo
          What would happen, if hoards of Equatorians migrated to jiengelands and brazenly settled there? There would a terrible backlash. We as Equatorians are the problem. We allowed all "Koror" from all over the South and offered them food, refuge and even our girls. Now the same shitholes are terrorizing us on our soil. No. Treat them like settlers, jellaba and foreigners. Burst them 👊.

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        • 27 August 10:58, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

          When the people of South Sudan went for self-determination referendum, it was for independence and self reliance in a cohesive nation state that was supposed to be built on the foundation of justice, freedom and independence from a social contract that should have come from Equatoria, Upper Nile and Bahr el Ghazal. So the demand for federalism is within the context of self-determination!. No fear.

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      • 27 August 09:07, by Khent

        Game

        I’ve always maintained that South Sudan is far too diverse for multiple tribes to come under one administration on either a regional or State basis. A return to the 3 regions or 10 States is not desirable. There’s also far too many levels of government; we have 5 levels when just 2 would do — Federal and local (County)...

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        • 27 August 09:55, by Khent

          ..Payams and Bomas are entirely unnecessary, wasteful layers of ’administration... Layers of bureaucracy that will just consume all the resources required for infrastructure investment and service delivery. I would only be receptive to the 3 regions within the context of taxes rather than administration...

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          • 27 August 10:36, by Khent

            ..But that may entrench pre-existing tensions; the counties should serve as the only administrative units other than the Federal ’government’ and the regions could be used to equalize economic development across all the counties through two layers of tax collection -> county and regional taxes. This is required because certain counties lack the population size to be entirely self-sufficient...

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            • 27 August 11:19, by Khent

              ..so enlarging the tax net is an obvious solution; I must stress that the regional tax money could only be equally distributed through establishing a logical (mathematical) matrix - a criteria predicated on indexes. This would deprive any tribe of its ability to throw its weight around in the regions. An independent border commission should also be established to adjudicate territorial disputes...

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              • 27 August 11:48, by Khent

                ..We also need to establish Regional and Federal statutory bodies tasked with developing infrastructure on Federal and Regional levels; these bodies would be technical rather than political; they would be presided over by all sorts of qualified and vetted engineers and scientists; these bodies would obviously have to be apolitical and not for profit...

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                • 27 August 11:57, by Khent

                  ..These statutory bodies should be the only ones that can be tasked with constructing roads, highways, building schools, hospitals, dams, airports and more; and these bodies could work in tandem with international experts and firms that are world leaders in these fields. The days of giving contracts to people with no qualifications, must end.

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        • 27 August 11:03, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

          Khent,

          It is until you accept the concept of self determination right from ground level that durable peace will have to come and settle in the country. The people of Equatoria stand for that emphatically.

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          • 27 August 12:33, by Khent

            Jur_likang_a_ likan’g

            Look, I know that you’re determined to present yourself as some sort of egalitarian crusader, but you’ve already exposed your little routine as nothing but a hollow exercise in virtue signalling through your dogged refusal to condemn your own tribe for encroaching upon and occupying Anyuak, Burun and Shilluk lands...

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            • 27 August 12:58, by Khent

              When will you condemn your Nuer people for brutalizing the Anyuak? You even murdered their Paramount Chief. You continue to occupy Anyuak lands in Akobo... In a county larger than Lebanon. You have also stolen another similar sized county (Longechuk) from the Burun as well as lands from the Shilluk ("new Fangak"). You have stolen far more lands than the Dinka...

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              • 27 August 13:00, by Khent

                The Nuer killed Chol Odio — the Anyuak Paramount Chief in 2013 due to his vocal opposition to Nuer attempts at land-theft. Are you really ignorant of the fact that the Mor Lou continue to encroach upon the lands of the Anuak? The Mor Lou routinely intimidate and kill the Anyuak in Akobo in order to displace them from their ancestral lands.

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                • 27 August 13:03, by Khent

                  In 2013, the Nuer killed Chol Odio (the Anyuak Paramount Chief) due to his vocal opposition to Nuer attempts at land-theft. Are you really ignorant of the fact that the Mor Lou continue to encroach upon the lands of the Anuak? The Mor Lou routinely intimidate and kill the Anyuak in Akobo in order to displace them from their ancestral lands.

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                  • 27 August 13:05, by Khent

                    The people who have stolen the lands of the Anyuak and Burun are the same people that now pretend to be righteous by condemning the Dinka for stealing plots of land in Equatoria, while entire Nuer sub-sections take entire payams and counties (the size of countries like Lebanon) from smaller tribes.

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                  • 27 August 14:45, by jubaone

                    Khent
                    I see your valid points on this sensitive issue. We can’t criticize jienges while not criticizing Nuers for having done so on Collo, Anyuak or Burun lands. Significant, is how far back in historical context do we go? We agree that all ethnic and ancestral lands as of 1.1.1956 remain. Any land grabbing past this time is unacceptable and must be given back to their rightful owners.

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                    • 27 August 16:19, by Khent

                      Jubaone

                      Thank you! Moral consistency is precisely what I’m advocating. This is why I have consistently condemned my own tribe for replicating the same vices and the same system of internal colonialism, violence, displacements, rape and land-theft as the ’Jellaba’. I wish to preserve the integrity of people’s homelands from 1956...

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                      • 27 August 16:28, by Khent

                        ..And this is why I would not allow any tribe or section (no matter how large) to commit land-theft. John Garang rejected Dinka claims on Malakal, but Salva Kiir is not even remotely principled. I really do believe that South Sudan has no hope unless we commit to death and rebirth; the pre-existing cultures must die and we must morph into different people...

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                        • 27 August 16:36, by Khent

                          ..And this will only be possible through boarding schools. The retrogressive cultures of South Sudan have produced the tragedies we’re now enduring. I’m well aware of the fact that it was the ’elite’ [competing for State resources] that impoverished and destroyed this ’country’ through greed, corruption, nepotism and violence...

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                          • 27 August 16:43, by Khent

                            ..But the ’elite’ are products of their cultures — cultures with an absence of accountability for one’s actions; cultures that encourage child-like behaviour, greed, irresponsibility, arrogance, laziness, envy, ingratitude, rumour-mongering, back-stabbing and emotional manipulation. A people’s government is more often than not a reflection of their society...

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                            • 27 August 16:46, by Khent

                              ..Their elites don’t drop out of the sky or manifest themselves from another dimension — they are us… even if they are a little more corrupt or a little more murderous. The cultures of our forefathers must die - and their world with it. If I had it my way, every child would be enrolled in a boarding school...

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                              • 27 August 16:53, by Khent

                                ..Well structured, well funded academies in which only thoroughly vetted and highly qualified professionals can teach. I want an education system that prioritizes teaching transformational laws, inference, critical thinking, problem solving, cooperation, leadership and creativity.

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                                • 27 August 16:54, by Khent

                                  .Systemic change must take place and it must result in a cultural revolution. Our cultures are sick, weak and retrogressive — wholly unsuited for the 21st century and the many challenges it presents. We need to foster patriotism, honesty, civic duty, integrity, courtesy, empathy, responsibility and accountability.

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    • 27 August 11:20, by deng

      Game
      the division of states into 32 is tribal I can see every tribe has given it own

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  • 27 August 09:21, by Sunday Junup

    I have told you guys that the so call peace agreement in Khartoum will never address South Sudanese problems. Count me out

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  • 27 August 11:15, by Jongo

    Now I realized that Basir/Kiir agreement is allowing those so called jenge the dark dirty empty mouth all of them to come & assemble in Juba Oh this is not ecceptable &
    not welcomed it means another war Equatorian vs jenge Sorry kiir this time you’l see the dirty war ever in our towns the message is loud & clear we hate you jenge so so much don’t try us again enough simply just go home that’s it

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  • 27 August 13:14, by Awet Awet

    People should go back to 10 State or 3 region if we really need peace in South Sudan.
    Otherwise war Will continue and it may be worsen.
    Peace can’t be with this fake State

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    • 27 August 15:30, by Theallseeingeye

      the mediators should stop beating around the bush because the creation of 32 states itself is undisputed violation to the ARCSS 2015. those state was created with a presidential order (we woke up one morning & found them) not referendum. :. I don’t see any compelling argument to allow 32 states be a major obstacle to the peace agreement since the idea is unfeasible itself. just another Jienge crap

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    • 27 August 20:11, by Joyuma John

      Dear Awet Awet, all 3 region and 10 states’ non one of them we created as,we South Sudanese, and if it wasï so then why are we proud by foreigners actions and rioted our own one, and prove mow we’re 3 region and 10"states were by southerners?

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  • 27 August 15:54, by Nuer Kanguan

    its really getting international communities good business as long those are getting Cheqeck for their personal gain,Uliet Peace success because participants were not getting paid, they only receive catering service and accommodation in grass tukul house.

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  • 27 August 15:54, by Nuer Kanguan

    its really getting international communities good business as long those are getting Cheqeck for their personal gain,Uliet Peace success because participants were not getting paid, they only receive catering service and accommodation in grass tukul house.

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