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June 11, 2018 (JUBA)- The South Sudanese presidency has dismissed as “fake” news report, which claimed the country’s first vice president, Taban Deng Gai in the coalition government proposed an initiative aimed at bringing together President Salva Kiir and his main political rival and leader of armed opposition faction, Riek Machar.

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South Sudan First Vice President Taban Deng Gai addresses the general debate of the UN General Assembly (UN Photo)

Gai, reports widely circulated on social media indicated, protested to Kiir about his planned direct meeting with the rebel leader.

The letter, purportedly written by the first vice president, claimed he opposes the upcoming face to face meeting because Machar was no longer the leader of the armed opposition movement (SPLM-IO).

“SPLM-IO does not exist anymore after the SPLM [Sudan People Liberation Movement] reunification in early May. If you want to work with Riek Machar as an individual, just let me know because our deal does not recognize Riek Machar as the leader of the SPLM-IO. I hope you will reconsider my reasons as I presented to you at our last meeting,” partly reads the letter widely circulated on social media.

Gai said Machar would not give Kiir support if he is looking for someone who would provide him a support.

But while the South Sudanese presidential spokesman, Ateny Wek Ateny denied the report, sources at the country’s presidency and officials loyal to the first vice president separately told Sudan Tribune that Gai was indeed unhappy with the arrangements, pointing to views that the new arrangement will either relegate or isolate him.

“Like many other fake documents before, the letter allegedly written by the First Vice President Gen. Taban Deng Gai is as fake as the person who forged it. The FVF could not have written such letter when he can speak to the President and make his view known to the President. So, this letter is just a fake one intended for public consumption by those who forged it. Please discard it”, said Ateny.

The presidential aide did not, however, deny or confirm whether president Kiir and Gai met and held talks about the upcoming direct meeting between him and Machar.

Meanwhile President Kiir has already expressed willingness to meet his political rival for face-to-face talks, with Sudan’s Omar Al-Bashir set to mediate between the two.

Last month, the rival parties involved in South Sudan’s peace talks concluded the Second Phase of the High-Level Revitalization Forum (HLRF) in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia without striking a deal on the implementation of the governance and security arrangements.

Tens of thousands pf people have been killed in fighting between troops loyal to Kiir and forces led by his former deputy Riek Machar since 2013. The conflict has also left a quarter of South Sudan’s population of 12 million, either internally displaced or as refugees in neighbouring countries.

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  • 12 June 07:27, by Resolution

    All internal south Sudanese parasites should be ready to accept being side-line or isolates following current initiative of face-to face meeting of President Kiir and Dr. Machar and the outcome is likely to bring peace to south Sudanese. those are trying to bring peace to their stomach shame on you fooooooooools.

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  • 12 June 07:44, by Eastern

    Al Tabani Deng is RIGHT, the rest are WRONG........!

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    • 12 June 09:05, by Mookachaar Jieng

      Selfish and stomach filler who is called taban, your time has come to an end. South Sudanese leaders Kiir and Dr.Machar will resolve the suffering of their people, not you.
      If you did not deposit the good amount of money in your account, please please taban, get another way from Kiir to accumulate the wealth not to kill the people of SS again as what you did in 2013 and 2106 again.

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  • 12 June 07:47, by gatkhor Nueri

    Yaa Gen.Taban Nyakek Lam,you look like a incest-child and now you are ready to go.

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    • 12 June 08:56, by Games

      I was first people that read the letter and without doubt, the letter was written by Taban Deng Gai. Anyway, Salva Kiir has no choices, he has to meet Machar as it was proposed by the US and UN, but delivered it by IGAD. Salva Kiir has left only for two weeks and if he is not going to fullfill the what UN has told them to working on, then they are going to faces all those UN impedes sactions

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      • 12 June 09:28, by South South

        Games,

        Coward, you are crying for UN support, where are ALMIGHTY Nuer White Army ? We told you you are nothing, but just Nyagat. Oh, UN, Oh, US, Oh IGAD help us, wicked people.

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        • 12 June 11:53, by Malakal county Simon

          South/Slave

          We are so proud and we are something because we fought with well trained foreign troop of Uganda along side your tribal weak army.... If this was you, you can never stands on your feet for 4.5 years because you’re truly known coward.... I’m hlad the Nuers white teached you unforgettable lesson and most of all, they still exist today....

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          • 12 June 12:49, by Khent

            Malakal

            You fought against a small detachment of around 3, 000 Ugandan soldiers at the heels of 70% of the army (Nuer) defecting to Riek. You people joined Khartoum in 91 and returned in 2006, and the Dinka suffered fighting the entire SAF for 14 years without you or the Equatorians, Shilluk, Fertit and Murle - so don’t even try to boast.

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            • 12 June 12:55, by Khent

              ..Salva Kiir allowed Bashir’s Nuer militiamen to join the SPLA with tens of thousands of fighters; Matip alone returned with 50, 000 and that dog (Matip) became Deputy Commander-in-Chief. Riek was not only allowed to return after the break-down of his alliance with Khartoum... He became Vice-President. None of this should have happened. Traitors should not have been allowed to return...

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              • 12 June 13:04, by Khent

                ..I would have retained and rewarded all the loyal fighters and would not have allowed a single traitor to join the army; I would’ve made a Law forbidding those that formed alliances with the enemy (during the war) from participating in any political capacity. Traitors should NEVER be indulged or accomodated.

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            • 12 June 14:09, by jubaone

              Khent,
              You´re exagerating and trying to give too much credit to jienge´s "sole" lberation of SS. This is worthless narrative and presupposes jienges fought in our backyards in Equatoria while our boys/girls were either bystanders or had fled the country. That is the most stupid assertion. If that were the case, then all jienges primarily fought in Equatoria and none in jiengelands.

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              • 12 June 14:15, by jubaone

                Just as a reminder, the capture of Kapwata, Chukudum Torit in the aerly 90s through the then cmd Peter Lorot, Obuto Mamur while Kuol Manyang was Zonal commander was extensively the work Equatorians. Recall, when Torit was captured it was by Obuto about 4-5 Tanks. Do you know why then the Zande under cmdr Samuel Abu John subsequently quit?

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                • 12 June 14:27, by jubaone

                  Khent,
                  Can you tell us the architects of Operation Thunderbolt that saw the liberation of all areas between Kaya and Mile 55? Do you know in 1994, close to the strategic town around Aswa river Garang envisaged quiting and only after mobilization of Equatorians in Kampala between 1994-5 saw the military reversals by cmdrs John Koang, Thomas Cirilo, Abraham Wana and Jadallah under Katiba Shakush?

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                  • 12 June 14:49, by Khent

                    Juba

                    I have not employed a lick of exaggeration. The Nuer left in 91 and Euatoria had a dozen or so tribal militia groups fighting as part of Khartoum’s militia network; the Shilluk joined Khartoum through Lam Akol; the Murle were always with Khartoum; the two dozen tribes that are known as the ’Fertit’ were with Khartoum...

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                    • 12 June 14:55, by Khent

                      Name dropping a small handful of Euatorian Generals does not help your case here. The grunts doing the fighting were not Equatorian; Garang had a policy of putting military units under the command of men that were not part of their tribe; this is why Riek Machar commanded Dinka soldiers. Riek commanded Ghol, Hippopatomus and Jamus Battalions...

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                      • 12 June 15:15, by Khent

                        ..but the soldiers themselves were from the Panaruu and Ruweng Dinka sections in Unity State. Nyacigak Nyaciluk [Murle] led battalions in Khorium division. Does that then necessarily mean that the achievements and victories of this largely Dinka division can in all honesty then be attributed to the Murle?

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                        • 12 June 15:23, by Khent

                          Men like Thomas Cirillo are serial defectors; they oscilated back and forth between the movement and the enemy. Thomas Cirillo only defected to the SPLA in 92 and again rejoined Khartoum before his return in the 2000s.

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                          • 12 June 15:23, by Khent

                            Most Equatorians during the war were part of Khartoum’s vast militia network in South Sudan. Khartoum enthusiastically armed the Mundari militia, the Bari dominated Popular Resistance Movement/Army, the Equatorial Defence Force and a multitude of tribes like the Toposa, Lotuka, Didinga, Boya, Acholi and many others as part of its militia network.

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                            • 12 June 15:24, by Khent

                              The initial problems between Garang and Kawac arose because of fears of the large numbers of Malwal who joined the SPLA campaigns in Ethiopia. In modern times it is claimed that 80 percent of the ethnic composition of the SPLA is Dinka. Of this percentage, however, 45 percent comprises of Malwal recruits alone. (Sudan’s Blood Memory: The Legacy Of War Ethnicity And Slavery In Early South Sudan)

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                              • 12 June 15:29, by Khent

                                The Dinka composed Mour-Mour division captured Gogrial, Rumbek, Tonj, Aweil and many other areas in the Dinka heartland and held them before the signing of the CPA. The Dinka dominated SPLA also recaptured Achwa, Magwi, Yei, Kapoeta, Torit, Kurmuk, Kor, Yabu, Zanziber and many other areas in Equatoria and other regions.

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                            • 12 June 17:37, by jubaone

                              Khent,
                              Again, I dont buy into your jienge narrative of "..we liberated SS.." Your parents smuggled you out to perhaps England where you spent you entire youthful life. Now with SS liberated, you pretend to be the smart and intellectual jienge. That is crap and bullshit

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                            • 12 June 17:54, by jubaone

                              Khent,
                              Then give us the leaders of these Equatoria militia groups that you allegedly have put forth. That is just jienge bullshit and crap. It is though, a good attempt and smart fantacy. Anyway, just go develp your lands and we ours. We wont bother you and you have no jienge business trying to bother us. Just FYI, fighting in NOT a jienge MONOPOLY. NO. NOT this time around.

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                              • 12 June 19:17, by Khent

                                Jubaone

                                I don’t get online to convince you of anything. Your opinion means nothing to me. I write to refute lies so that less impassioned observers can make up their minds with the often sourced and cited information I provide. The Equatorian Defence Force was commanded by Martin Kenyi and the Popular Resistance Movement/Army was commanded by Alfred Lado Gore.

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                            • 12 June 23:30, by Proverbs

                              Khent,

                              So, your point is most Equatorians were against the SPLA during the war and now the Dinkas feel entitled to do whatever they want? If that’s the case, go on believing son! Dinka Entitlement & Revenge—This type of thinking will not take SS anywhere! Equatoria was the major theatre of the War & bore the major burden NOT Dinkaland.

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                              • 13 June 04:01, by Khent

                                Proverbs

                                No, my point is clear:

                                I will not tolerate people re-writing history due to their feelings. I have consistently condemned the Dinka for acting so entitled and for having so utterly impoverished, humiliated and betrayed this ’Country’...

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                                • 13 June 04:08, by Khent

                                  Equatoria was of strategic value due to its proximity to the Ugandan and Kenyan borders but it did not bear the brunt of the war in a population sense; it was a major theatre of war but it’s population was not slated for destruction - unlike the Dinka. Equatoria had over a dozen Khartoum-compliant tribal militias.

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                                • 13 June 07:32, by jubaone

                                  Khent
                                  Who wrote that history? You weren’t there embedded with SPLA units in all fronts all the time. Just stupid. These were narratives told by your own who embellished and exaggerated facts to suit jienge ethos and pride. Now you clever jienge wants to glorify your own as the victors and therefore entitled to own and do anything they wish with SS. Those days are gone.

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                                  • 13 June 10:05, by Khent

                                    Jubaone

                                    I refer to books -written by 3rd party historians- to help me understand what transpired in the war. You have not refuted the fact that Equatoria was home to a number of Khartoum-compliant tribal militias or that the Nuer provided tens of thousands of militiamen to do Khartoum’s bidding.

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                                    • 13 June 10:17, by jubaone

                                      Khent
                                      Who were these 3rd party historians? Were these facts verifiable by independent sources? Our esteemed readers would also want to read and get some facts cross checked by some still living veterans. Again, like Sudanese historians who have deliberately refuted that Sudan is indeed African. You could as well say, SS belongs only to jienges and this liberation myth and narrative fits in well.

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                                      • 13 June 18:10, by Khent

                                        Jubaone

                                        Read the books of Douglas H. Johnson and Robert O. Collins and come back to me on any specific points of disagreement you have with their works.

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                          • 12 June 21:08, by jubaone

                            Khent
                            FYI Fo you know Dr Theophilus Ochang? For your information, Arok Thon Arok, Kerubino Kwanyin and a band of passive or active jellaba hirelings like Aldo Ajou, Gabriel Roric, George Kongor, Moses Machar, Albdel Bagi Ayii, Telar Deng, Martin Malual, Bona Malwal who vehemently attacked the SPLA are only a few of the jienge renegades and traitors. Don’t play the smart guys.

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                            • 12 June 22:11, by One people

                              Juba 1
                              Mr. Khent is telling you all the truth, why you don’t want to admit that there were a lot of none Dinka were maillita against SPLA movement before? You maillitas used to kill Dinka before for Arab to take over South Sudanese people land. I think your brain is full of mucast boy, you don’t know shit

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                              • 13 June 16:57, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

                                One people,

                                Khent is saying shit. He knows nothing about what happened in the eighties in South Sudan. Abraham Wana, Thomas Cirillo, Augustino Jadalla and many more Equatorian war champions are still alive. Please find the truth Jubaone has furnished you with. In wars what matters is quality and not quantity in war theatre. You might be many but full of rubbish. Even Jallaba can tell you that.

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                                • 13 June 18:14, by Khent

                                  Jur

                                  You people left in 91 and you want people to pretend that you’re not traitors? The most amusing thing is that you think allying yourself with Khartoum was perfectly reasonable. It’s a fact that Equatoria (Eastern in particular) had a lot of Khartoum-compliant militia groups.

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                            • 13 June 04:44, by Khent

                              Jubaone

                              None of those Dinka traitors had a Khartoum-compliant militiamen under their command. Men like Arok Thon Arok did not have armies of their own after they joined Khartoum; his own uncle (Bior Ajang Duot) was sent out to neutralise him. Every social group has people like Abdel Bagi Ayii...

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                              • 13 June 04:46, by Khent

                                ..a death-deserving traitor that probably wasn’t able to scrounge together any more than a hundred like-minded traitors. Kerubino was provided with Bul Nuer fighters by Matip because the Dinka would not join him.

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                    • 13 June 14:40, by Sunday Junup

                      Khent,
                      you proof beyond doubt that you are liar! By that time when Matip was Militia, Kerbino Kuanyin Bol was Militia too. And when we talk of those who joined or have Jalaba ideology, you may talk of those of Abel Alier, Bona Malual etc. But your problem is that when Non Dinka rebel it is the whole community but when Dinka rebel you called the name of that person. Compare David Yay Yay, con......

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                      • 13 June 14:46, by Sunday Junup

                        Goerge Athor, Johnson Ulony etc. Murle and Shiluk were massacre because of their son but no one care about George community. Again compare Paul Malong and Stephan Buay. Gorverment gave much attention to Malong then Buay simply because Buay was Nuer. That is why Taban Nyekek could know that there is no real deal with Dinka. Wait! you said SPLA has problem with Nuer,Pertit, Equatoria etc right? Cont

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                        • 13 June 14:49, by Sunday Junup

                          If what you narrated was right that SPLA has problem and fight with non Dinka communities then SPLA was not a movement for the people and this could be treated as a root cause of the problem. B/se SPLA looted Non Dinka resources and kills non Dinka which deserves apology

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              • 12 June 14:15, by South South

                jubaone,
                "lberation of SS. ", check your shit spelling before posting it to us. Yes, Dinkas were fighting all over South Sudan. Equatoirans ran to refugee camps to hide, this is not something new for Equatorians to do that. Anytime there is a conflict in South Sudan, Equatorians are Ugandans citizens, anytime there is a conflict in Uganda, Equatorians are South Sudanese.

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                • 12 June 14:33, by jubaone

                  South South,
                  That is what Abyei and jellaba slave can write. Just go take care of your master´s compound in Khartoum. Just for the records, jiengeland HAD and HAS still NO strategic and economic relevance at all. That is why jellaba even never wanted to capture any luaks nor villages. Jienges simply wanted free way to Kakuma camps and to Uganda.

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                  • 12 June 14:38, by jubaone

                    South South
                    If jienges fought in Equatoria, it is because Equatoria has an economic, political and strategic relevance. Do you know, without Equatoria SS is just like any junk jienge shitholes? Jienges went to the bush to fight for Equatoria and not for their luaks, some cuz they were thugs, fugitives, bitter cuz they got busted by kokora. Love your village, ya aryan jienge!

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                  • 12 June 16:31, by Khent

                    Jubaone

                    That is a profoundly stupid statement to make. One area can be strategic and of value without negating the strategic nature and value of another area. The Dinka areas contribute over 80% of the Nation’s oil production and has -by far- the most extensive border with the North...

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                    • 12 June 16:38, by Khent

                      ..You could argue -like I do- that the oil has not even remotely been properly utilised for the benefit of the Country, but that does not negate its economic value. You’re letting your emotions get the best of you by making such facile arguments.

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                    • 12 June 17:44, by jubaone

                      Khent
                      So what if the jienge areas contributed even 100% of the oil wealth. This has neither benefited the majority jienges nor has this transformed their lives at all. It is as if you handed a chimp a kg of gold and still doesnt cherish or value it. Drink, smear yourselves and bath in that oil, Equatoria CAN DO without it. Period

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                      • 12 June 17:47, by jubaone

                        We Equatorians have always maintained, go back to your luaks and use the oil wealth to develop yourselves. You have no f**cking business disturbing us in our areas. Your areas are liberated and free, so what the hell do you want in Equatoria? The Kiirminal has even given you more than 14 jienge states, develop them while we develop ours. Is that hard to understand?

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          • 12 June 14:10, by South South

            Nyagat came with fake Arabs in 1991 to fight us in South Sudan, we did action jobs with them. We never cried for UN to help us. Nuers are chicken coming home to Roost. Riak was made to be vice president, but he rejected that and pushed for president, but right now is coming back to us to beg for vice president he refused one time.

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            • 12 June 14:42, by jubaone

              South South,
              You bloody jienge liar! How could a 9 yr old emaciated and starving jienge go and fight in Equatoria? Tell this nonsense to your Kind. You are claiming to have liberated SS so that you can loot and steal where you did not sow. Now go develop your luak otherwise you will die like a street dog in Juba or Equatoria without a home or house.

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            • 12 June 14:48, by jubaone

              South South
              Even if we all left Equatoria for you, you cant and wont do anything at all. If you cant do it in your rundown luaks, how can you do it in Equatoria? Useless. It is like giving a monkey a piece of gold, it wont value or cherish it. Now you jienges are voluntarily fleeing to Uganda, who is chasing you? Go back home and develop it. Kiirminal has given you several states, so???

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        • 12 June 17:02, by Games

          South Shit/my Slaves
          Just came back from long day hunting and found that you are spreading nasty bulshits behind my back. How many times do I have to tell you that you Dinka can/will never faces Nuer in the battlefields alone? Practically speaking, we defeated you in all Frontlines in early 2014. Without M7, you have been history by now. Shut up and have something to eat. It’s nearly 6pm Sudan ti

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          • 12 June 17:39, by Khent

            Game

            Do you think we forgot your alliance (slavery) with Khartoum? Did you come alone when you fought us after 91? Why were you defeated in the 90s when you had the entire SAF, PDF, the Murahaleen and most of South Sudan’s tribes on your side? You were lucky in 2014 because that moron (Salva) allowed you to come back in 2006 and account for 70% of the army...

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            • 12 June 17:45, by Khent

              ..and this is why it took Malong mobilizing tens of thousands of Dinka men to reverse the situation. You complain about only 3000 Ugandan soldiers while you had no problem fighting us with the aid of over 100, 000 SAF troops and 70, 000 PDF militiamen. Why did you fail?

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    • 12 June 09:16, by padiit gaga

      Nuer wew
      Sorry to heard that the Arab origin (Taban)still camplain about position which he stolen from some one. Shame to him he will face his consequences of his greedly.

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      • 12 June 09:28, by Games

        Pandit Gaga
        Sometimes some people like Taban Deng Gai behave similar to those of our cousins Dinka. Taban was/will never be IO chairman. The guy is more tribalisms like Salva Kiir and he always tried to get things through shortcut.

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        • 12 June 11:09, by Kush Natives

          Games,
          If you don’t know how much politics work, then you deserve to backoff young, never insult Mr. Taban, the knows how to get it done. Rebels must stop making excuses, we already told Riek no too long ago to denounced violence and come back home, the stubborn never get it. Where’s white army? White army disappeared in present South Sudan. By the way, run your mouth wide open!

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          • 12 June 11:14, by Eastern

            Ya Kus,

            We can even insult the anus of Taban if you like. Insulting is ineffectual that’s why we left it for folks like South South and a few other imps on this forum. What is Taban and how has he changed things for the better in South Sudan. The people’s leader is Machar as you can gauge....

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          • 12 June 11:44, by Malakal county Simon

            Kush

            IO Moment under Dr Machar already signed a what we called cessation of hostilities recently.... Is this not part of denouncing violence?? Or do you have your own term for defining violence??

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  • 12 June 16:42, by lino

    Taban was consumed and integrated into the Konyo Konyo Regime!!! Why is he talking about IO again!

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