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October 11, 2017 (PRETORIA)- The deputy South African president has told the visiting members of the steering committee of South Sudan national dialogue that recognizing the existence of the problem becomes part of the solution.

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Cyril Ramaphosa (File photo Reuters)

Cyril Ramaphosa, who was one of the key African National Congress (ANC) members in the negotiation team of the issues aimed at addressing the post-apartheid rule in South Africa, cited their own experience.

“The realization that we had a crisis as a country and that we needed to find a solution. That in itself was a major breakthrough. Sometimes you can live through problems and never realize that you have a problem; like someone who is ill and has lots of pains but doesn’t realize there is a real problem. That was when we began to develop the secret that got us to where we are. It was a collective realization that the country was in crisis,” Ramaphosa told South Sudanese officials currently in the country on Tuesday.

The Apartheid regime, he said, had also realized that it had a problem requiring a solution instead of military solution which both sides have had tried without success instead it was worsening the situation.

“Once that had happened, we were able to move forward. Both sides realized they could not defeat each other. Over time they both thought they’d defeat the other (the ANC thought that through MK it would make the country ungovernable, and the NP (government) had a picture in their heads that they would defeat the ANC and that the ANC would be brought to its knees). We also needed to have an honest assessment of ourselves. Once you realize you have that kind of crisis you have to lead from the front,” he explained.

The South African official expressed optimism that the current conflict in South Sudan would end if the problem is identified and recognized; saying many people around the world saw the South Africa crisis at the time as being intractable and thought this would never be solved.

“Many people saw South Africa crisis as intractable and that Nelson Mandela would stay in jail and the ANC would never be unbanned. But there was this commitment that led to the recognition that if we have a crisis we need to talk amongst ourselves; the problem was then resolved”, he pointed out.

South Sudan’s war, he said, was now intractable but it will end if the problem is identified and recognized.

“Your problem right now seems intractable. We have tried so much-IGAD, Arusha declaration etc. But we can solve this. I am a total believer that this is a crisis that can be solved. I come from a process that looked unsolvable. When we started our process, I always knew we would be successful. The same is true for Roelf. It requires that. It requires you as actors in this that this is going to be successful. You need to stay committed,” he said.

(ST)

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  • 12 October 06:54, by DO IT

    Economic is collapsing (meaning no more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) bribing to those who are keeping S. Sudan hostage

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    • 12 October 06:59, by Newsudan

      all armed groups should be included in transition govt.

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      • 12 October 07:11, by Newsudan

        also formation of national army: Fertit lions,Shilluk Aguelek,Dinka Mathiang Anyoors,Nuer white army,SSPA,SSUA,SSDA,or whatever should all be merge to form an inclusive national force which is not dominated by one or two ethnic groups.

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  • 12 October 07:48, by Eastern

    Taban continues saying that he has harmonious working relationship with Kiir and they are implementing the ARCSS. Government employees have not been paid for months turning the wrath of the insecurity forces on the few that are seen to be doing well - rampant armed night robberies, etc...

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    • 12 October 08:03, by jubaone

      Eastern,
      SAfricans are a different stock who perhaps think, our jienges don’t even know the country has a problem. These savages once in Juba, think they have reached paradise. Living on loot, theft, anarchy without accountability is very normal. Jienges say "we liberated SS" nonsense or "born to misrule". The jienge is the problem and not the solution. It’s his nature like a swine that feels well

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      • 12 October 08:10, by jubaone

        ..in filth and and stench. Just ser the state of destitution, anarchy, chaos, backwardness in their junk states. Does any jienge feel bad? Has any Jienge asked why with all the looted billions, none of them have ever developed their own junk states, instead lived lavish lives in Kampala, Nairobi, Australia yet their own starve, beg and die miserably in the luaks.

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        • 12 October 08:17, by jubaone

          ...does the jienge really have conscience, ethics and morals? Only when the jienges evolve to rise up to thinking and interacting intelligently like humans, they will always be a problem to the rest in SS. This leaves us with the choice of one: avoid the jienge and you’re saved, mix up with him, it’s shit. The Bari say "Kin ko kak, koimot Ko lo ki". Shit 💩 with peanut butter is still stinks. 👊

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      • 12 October 08:55, by South South

        jubaone,

        We liberated our country, period. We are dealing with our problems and we hope to overcome them soon in one way or another. What I find very hard here is you to talk like a human being, like a real man only in internet. Talking about shit, fake Arabs raped many Bari men during our struggle. They said very famous statement " Kill Dinka and F...ck jur. In your face many Bari men were raped

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        • 12 October 09:01, by South South

          jubaone,
          Cont....
          Bari men were raped by fake Arab, but Bari community went head and teach their children Arabic Juba denying Bari culture, that’s the reaction you did. Calling some places " Lubas Mapi" without any shame, what happened to your Lubas? Did fake Arabs pull down to do action job with you? jubaone, please shut up and leave us to run this country. When there is full peace come back.

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          • 12 October 11:19, by jubaone

            South South,
            If jellaba raped Bari men, then they really had a good taste. How could a jellaba rape or f**k a jienge a**? Imagine the filth and stench oozing from such an ass? Horrible. The jellaba could as well f**k a monkey than a Jienge. Well, this us for the jellaba to decide. FYI: We say Libas Mafi not Lubas Mapi. Train you tongue 👅 to spell F and P differently, ya jienge wisik.

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        • 12 October 10:28, by jubaone

          South South,
          Bla..bla..jienge bush pig. These are Jienge statements to fulfill their egos. For jienges whom we carried for us water, looked after our few cows and wrre given 2 liters of milk at end of each day’s work, who Chief Andrea whipped and taught them to wear underpants and not run around like tailless monkeys, I understand your bitterness. But that is the truth.

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          • 12 October 10:34, by jubaone

            Jienges can’t turn around and try to play the master. This is wrong. The jienge will ever remain the savage and Bari servants bcoz as uncultured savages, they will always seek food, refuge and solace. Baris can’t go to jiengeland, its jienges to come to their masters. So South South as long as you are homeless savage, you should start working for us. At least you have underpants now.

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        • 12 October 11:27, by jubaone

          South South,
          Your worthless without a home 🏠 and you will remain the eternal savage and hopeless MTN who tries to be a Juban but instead does not fit. Perhaps I am dealing with a jellaba bastard claiming to be a jienge. Even birds in the sky have nest, but jienges?? Wild savages

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          • 12 October 12:02, by South South

            jubaone,

            I just hit you very hard, you can not sit down.In terms of security, the situation in the country has been ominously calm for the last month or so except for sporadic clashes at the far borders. This is to tell you that our country is back to normal. Bari tribe is not a bad tribe, but there are many coward people in it.They gave up there culture very easily.

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            • 12 October 13:57, by jubaone

              South South,
              You think you are hitting Equatorians hard, when infact you are like those idiots who climb a tree and cut down the very branch he is sitting on. The result is a hard fall. Why then are jienges running to Equatoria or their jellaba masters, if all was well? No aryan jienge you are finished. Beg for mercy or leave Equatoria. If you stay coz of food, we shall feed you like babies

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    • 12 October 08:49, by South South

      Eastern,
      No single person in South Sudan including our government can deny today that there is a problem in our country, so South Africa Vice President is right when he pointed out that accepting of having a problem is the start of solution. President Kiir formed ND to address our problems, but one thing I want you to remember very well, we will not let our be destroyed.

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    • 12 October 13:43, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

      Eastern,

      What does that statement mean? Is Taban more confortable working with Kiir more than his comrade in arms Riek Machar? What went amiss between Taban and Riek? Someone must be a traitor somewhere!!

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  • 12 October 09:10, by Wutkhor

    The SA DP miss or didn’t understand nor study some tribes in SS which engulf the country into anachronistic turmoils, the Dinka’s re the problems in SS if we want to solve the problems we must identified them coz of the following.. 1- jieng re lies in their nature, 2- they re thieves, 3- they re lawlessness pples the only lawlessness society in SS, 4- they don’t like accountability for the evils d

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    • 12 October 09:16, by Wutkhor

      Con.. 5- cheating is a best or reward in Dinka’s costumes, 6- gabbing the whole n strategic equotoria lands n the Dinka’s refusal of democratical processes, they Dinka’s don’t like free democratical competition they only believe in their negatives theory of "born to rule n steals the state resources" the only solutions eSS can be secessions or ICC for those Dinka’s insects animals n their CH stoma

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      • 12 October 11:34, by jubaone

        Commander Wutkhor,
        See how Murles have terrorized jienge Bor to the extent all have cowardly relocated to Nimule. Sad, that Madis, Acholis at large are peaceful people. Now Madis, Acholis and Equatorians must rise up and say stop to this jienges. They must be driven away by force now, 3, 10 yrs or 50. Jienges belong to jiengeland. Period.

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  • 12 October 18:39, by Don-Don Malith Rual

    duty President ;Ramaphosa:Thank for you wise words, folks said that proverb are the 🍲 food in which words are eaten, the apartheid regime you said had realised it’s problem enquiring solutions instead of military solutions which according to you were both side have had tried without success in stead of worsening the situation was not different from the current situation of the South Sudan,as you

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    • 12 October 18:49, by Don-Don Malith Rual

      As you put it, the current situation in the south Sudan is no different to what had happened to your country given the fact that the NP government had a picture in their heads that they would defeat the ANC & that the ANC would be brought to its knees, this was exactly what happened in South Sudan, I disagree 👎 with your statement that the problem needs to be identified first,the problem of South

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      • 12 October 18:54, by Don-Don Malith Rual

        The problem of South Sudan is that greedy & yarding for leadership and the fact that no one would like to be put between "battock" this has always been our problem,everyone want to lead the country,and if we all wanting to be president s who will then be the public demond?

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