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July 5, 2017 (JUBA) - South Sudan president Salva Kiir has urged the national dialogue committee to continue carrying out consultations instead of waiting for the holdout armed and non-opposition forces.

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President Salva Kiir addresses the nation at the South Sudan National Parliament in Juba, November 18, 2015. (Photo Reuters/Jok Solomon)

The committee co-chairperson, Angelo Beda, told reporters on Wednesday that Kiir advised his team to “go ahead with the consultations” and that people and the nation “cannot wait for those advocating for war”.

Beda and his team briefed Kiir on their recent visit to South Africa, where its government reportedly appreciated the initiative of conducting the national dialogue, an initiative which helped South Africa nation overcome their problems after years of apartheid rule.

The government of South Africa has expressed its solidarity and readiness to support the process, Beda told reporters.

He, however, said the committee remains committed to its work to ensuring everyone takes part in the national dialogue process.

The leader of South Sudan’s armed opposition faction (SPLM-IO), Riek Machar declined meeting members of the dialogue committee in South Africa, saying the need to stop the ongoing was a priority.

The co-chair of the committee, Angelo Beda, who led the delegation to South Africa, said Machar declined to meet them, despite repeated attempts by deputy president, Cyril Ramaphosa.

A number of high profile members, including politicians, the elderly, diplomats and religious leaders made up the team to South Africa.

“Our trip to South Africa was a peace mission. The team and I wanted to meet with Dr. Riek Machar so we hear his views on the dialogue. Unfortunately, he could not meet us, but we exchanged messages,” Beda said on Monday.

He, however, said Ramaphosa and the African National Congress (ANC) welcomed and pledged support to the national dialogue.

The official did not clarify on what message was exchange with the rebel leader and how the South African government and the ruling African National Congress would make the dialogue inclusive.

Some members of the delegation, however, said they were not surprised by rebel leader’s decision to decline meeting them.

Observers have interpreted Machar’s decision to snub the delegation as rejection of the legitimacy of the dialogue committee.

Meeting the committee, they argued, would legitimatize the purpose for which it was formed on desire of President Salva Kiir and shut other efforts seeking to revitalize the 2015 peace agreement.

The South Sudanese rebel leader, who fled to the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) in August last year after fierce fighting, lives in South Africa.

Meanwhile, another high-level delegation meeting the exiled leaders will reportedly visit Kenya, Egypt, Ethiopia and other East African countries, including Sudan to meet the country’s former political detainees, Lam Akol and General Thomas Cirilo.

Over a million people have fled South Sudan since conflict erupted in late 2013 when Kiir sacked Machar.

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  • 5 July 22:15, by dinkdong

    Kiir should step down. That dang dialogue will not change anything.

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    • 6 July 09:44, by Mi diit

      Incompetent Vs Die-lock
      Let’s see if it will materialized without Dr. Machar and the entire SPLM /A I.O veterans.

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      • 6 July 10:30, by Jongo

        Both Dinkdong & Midit
        Predict Kiir step down OK Who will take over Mashar, Taban, James, Lily, Komba, Beda or early elections of course all no only one thing political chaos will take over where everybody go fight for his own & you will like that if not then please let us give chance to solve our differences through dialogue & agree upon it once & for all Pleeeeeease

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        • 6 July 10:37, by Mi diit

          Jongo,

          Go back to school (Primary Six) and come back to the forum after 5 years.

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      • 7 July 18:29, by garrak1520

        1.So called Dialogue not working

        2.South Sudan government admits difficulty paying civil servants
        3. Corrupted administration

        What are your expectations? Kiir, Taban, Machar, all need to vanish, and South Sudan to start from scratch. After all there is nothing there , getting worst and worst. The traveling abroad need to stop. Nothing positive from it. Buy food with the $$$ used in traveling.

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  • 5 July 22:20, by Sunday Junup

    Dr.Riak has right to refused your meeting. How come you lie to the world that you don’t report to Kiirimnal Mayardit? Now it is very clear to everyone that your objective was to lure Dr.Riak in the name of independent committee. Please Kiirimnal Mayardit, continue with your dead ND without Arm group as well as non.arm group but the question will still remain that dialogue with who?

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  • 5 July 23:16, by Newsudan

    Riek has not yet come to his really senses. 30 years house arrest will be better for him.

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  • 5 July 23:16, by Mr Point

    Why is Kiir pretending he didn’t start the war? It is clearly documented that Kiir planned the Juba massacres in 2013 and the attempt to murder Machar in 2016.
    This UN report shows Kiir’s government planned the July 2016 violence In Juba to try to murder Machar
    http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article60180

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  • 5 July 23:17, by Mr Point

    The African Union report shows Kiir’s government planned the 2013 massacre of Nuer civilians in Juba
    https://radiotamazuj.org/en/article/au-juba-mass-killings-were-state-policy-coordinated

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  • 5 July 23:56, by Theone

    SPLA was founded without Riek and Lam,and it will continue without them.

    Those day dreamers who have never hold a gun and sleep in the Bush with mosquitoes and snakes,you go ahead with your Internet war. WHO CARE!

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    • 6 July 00:20, by Mr Point

      Theone : It is clear you know little of the history of the struggle for independence, otherwise you would have mentioned the SPLM instead of the SPLA.

      As you know little, you also understand nothing.

      Why is the country suffering food shortage, civil war, 900% inflation and millions of refugees since Kiir decided to rule without any constitutional checks?

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      • 6 July 01:19, by Theone

        Mr.point,

        I have been with SPLA since day one starting with the ANYA_NYA II (2)
        I’M not that old,I was a young patriot and still patriotic, and that’s why I don’t see tribe in South Sudan

        I served with all tribes and I lost many of dear friends who are not the same tribe
        Our tribe is south Sudan

        NOW, if you want to talk about SPLM, go ahead and lecture me about what I don’t know about the cor

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    • 6 July 07:09, by Eastern

      Theone,

      You and like minded SHALL BE FORCED TO CARE!!

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    • 6 July 09:51, by jubaone

      Theone,
      Then just go ahead with your jienge luakthrash ND and who cares?

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      • 6 July 22:13, by Theone

        Jubaone,

        For all of you, anyone who is an SPLA and patriot MEAN he/she is a DINKA.

        It looks that none of you ever been in SPLA.

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  • 6 July 03:00, by lino

    Let Gen. Kiir sponges his monologue and drink it!!! They should declared that August,2015 collapsed, and then people will look for other means! He said peace is being implemented, then why you need a dialogue then?!

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  • 6 July 03:21, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

    In South Sudan we have war creator who is Mr Salva Kiir Mayardiit. No war advocated whatsoever!!

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  • 6 July 04:41, by gatkhor Nueri

    it is upto you yaa tik yual

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  • 6 July 04:52, by Odingo

    "Kiir weenyal metde gac buoka raan yang ee, wa Kiir buok meetde gaac buoka raan yang ee" Prophet Ngundeng.
    It looks like Kiir will never seen Dr. Riek Machar again.
    It looks like the King Paul Malong Awan boys who are on their way to rescue their trapped King, gonna send Kiir to hell.
    A nation run by primitive criminal, is always considered it as lawless state.

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  • 6 July 06:50, by Lenin Bull

    Who is Riek foxing in South Sudan? Riek turned his hotel room in South Africa into war command Room and is busy telling the whole world that war must be stopped first. President Salva Kiir is right. Let the ND go ahead. And wherever Riek’s mujadiins fire a shot or kill innocent civilians, the SPLA should teach them a lesson. After all who is Riek when he is militarily defeated since 1997,2013,2016

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  • 6 July 06:55, by Lenin Bull

    In war, it is only zero-sum principle that rules. The victor takes it all. It is only peaceful negotiations where all parties are willing to engage peaceful exchange of ideas that there can be give and take which is lacking here. Riek is militarily done but he is stubbornly sticking his neck out hoping that NGUNDANEG, his step-father Bashir, and the UN will rescue him by unilaterally invading

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    • 6 July 07:25, by Bilpam- 2

      Dear Lenin,

      Militarily done.Go ahead with your exclusive dialogue dear.If Dr.Riek is militarily done,what defeated the government troops in Kuek and around Maiwut areas?

      How do you compare a useless man called Kiir with dignify person in the world,Dr.Riek?Just beg on the street of Juba because it is really a part of your culture.

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    • 6 July 21:41, by Mr Point

      Leninin Bull
      Now that the war is finally won and Machar is militarily done can you explain when Kiir will start turning the country’s wealth to building roads, schools and all the institutions of peace.

      There are those who say that Kiir only uses the country’s wealth to enrich his family. Are they wrong?

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    • 6 July 21:42, by Mr Point

      Lenin Bull
      Now that the war is finally won and Machar is militarily done can you explain when Kiir will start turning the country’s wealth to building roads, schools and all the institutions of peace.

      There are those who say that Kiir only uses the country’s wealth to enrich his family. Are they wrong?

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  • 6 July 07:01, by Lenin Bull

    South Sudan and topple the government. This is utopia anyway and Riek and followers of dwarf intelligence seem not to be reading the signs of time. Most of UN soldiers in Juba are always being heard whispering to ears of the gallant SPLA forces that " we have not come here to die. I want to return home alive and safe. I have a beautiful wife and kids to take care of. Who is this Riek to set the us

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  • 6 July 07:07, by Lenin Bull

    the UN troops on collision course with government troops?"Look these are false hopes Riek and his people are hanging onto. This is utter self-deception. The only thing that I know for sure about UN mission and their troops in South Sudan is that they will be here forever to get their sweet dollarized salaries and pretending/exaggareting it that they are protecting some civilians in UN camps

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  • 6 July 07:10, by Lenin Bull

    Read various reports being sent out of South Sudan by these foreign bodies. Sometimes if one is a true nationalist and not a tribal bigot one will be disgusted by their contents( all insults to innocent South Sudanese civilians.

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  • 6 July 07:43, by Theallseeingeye

    "The committee co-chairperson, Angelo Beda, told reporters on Wednesday that Kiir advised his team to “go ahead with the consultations". Why is Kiir always involve in every decision taken by ND committee if the committee is an independent agent/body. I doubt Kiir must be the anonymous patron of the committee controlling the flaw and the outcome of the ND. therefore this is a one sided dialog

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    • 6 July 08:47, by Kush Natives

      Theallseeingeye,
      Who elected those committees? Where there was an election held for the ND or the president was the one that appoint them? Why do folks want President Salva Kiir to be away from everything that concerns South Sudan? Unless you folks tell us who is leading this country indirectly. This ND concern on vulnerable citizens who want stability and peace.

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      • 6 July 08:55, by Kush Natives

        He Kiir made it clear that, let ND go ahead regardless of the warmongers in the bush, I personally think that, this message could make you rebels happy because you’re only for war. Because you’re not making anything out of your argument, rejecting ND without viable alternative solution is useless. I thought that you guys should produce a political flatform, so that debate over it.

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        • 6 July 10:44, by Majesty

          Kush,
          Talking about peace or ferrying around signing papers with word "PEACE’ can’t bring peace or make it happens. Setting house on fire is not same as building it. Something, environment has to change for peace to come. President may decide but it’s people to make decision after it’s explained, understood and accepted. If there’ll be any short cut to peace, it’d be for Salva Kiir to resign.

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          • 6 July 11:03, by Majesty

            Pres Salva Kiir thinks if he can sign peace with adversaries, it’s over- peace will come. For him like he did in 2005-2010, SPLA martyrs, loyalists and core pillars would be no longer needed.
            Not even their opinion.

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        • 6 July 11:55, by Theallseeingeye

          Kush Natives
          we neither reject ND nor we want alternative to ARCSS. what we want is ARCSS review and full implementation then may after that we can have a national Dialog not the opposite. like our colleague EASTERN says "putting the Cart before horse". this ND is merely meant to overshadow the ARCSS therefore we can’t be part of it.

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  • 6 July 11:53, by Kush Natives

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    Meanwhile, another high-level delegation meeting the exiled leaders will reportedly visit Kenya, Egypt, Ethiopia and other East African countries, including Sudan to meet the country’s former political detainees, Lam Akol and General Thomas Cirilo.
    Here go!

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    • 6 July 12:35, by Eastern

      Kush Natives,

      Those visits will only help the committee members to do some shopping thanks to the dime they will spare from their allowances....Nothing tangible will come out of them. The solution to South Sudan’s problem was presented to Kiir in the ARCISS which he turned down and chose war. Let’s face it!!!

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      • 6 July 12:46, by Frak Cho

        Only dialogue can stop the war. Dr. Riek Machar is advocating for war. It is through the dialogue where people can find ways on how to stop the war.

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      • 6 July 12:50, by Frak Cho

        Only dialogue can stop the war. Dr. Riek Machar stop advocating for war please. It is through the dialogue where people can find ways on how to stop the war.

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      • 6 July 13:23, by Theallseeingeye

        Eastern
        I think the kind of the dialog Kiir is advocating for is not that different from the one those Jienge usually have under the lalop tree when they are resolving ther inter-clan disputes, no vision, grantee, paper sign,time frame nothing....and normally after few days the outcome of the dialog is like what is happening between Apuke and Aguake in warrap

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  • 6 July 13:16, by Ayuiu Makuac Lam

    Who are war advocate?
    National dialogue wants everybody, who is advocating war to be in dialogue.

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  • 6 July 13:58, by bol santino bol kuot

    Dear All,
    it is true for H.E Kiir to say that Dialogue should not wait for the war to stop because nobody is trusted any more from now especially Machar is not trusted person any more in South Sudan,his mine is only to weight war on innocence civilian by killing,rapes,displaced uncountable number of civilians.
    my SMS all of you,
    let stand together and try to reform such that our nation return t

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  • 6 July 14:14, by Theallseeingeye
  • 6 July 14:18, by Eastern

    To achieve peace, you don’t dialogue with friends but with your active enemies...What has the Kiir-Taban alliance of GOOD WORKING relationship achieved in the last year? More than 1 million refugees, runaway inflation, country-wide cholera outbreak, emergance on new armed groups, etc.

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  • 6 July 14:20, by Good Foe

    Junubin,
    We better solve our problems now before it disturbs the future generation like what is going on in Nigeria-Biafra.
    Lets try to learn from History!
    Kiir should find another way. The ND will be over, elections conducted but more will still remain in the refugee camps afraid of their lives. The way this gov’t is handling this situation is omnious.

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