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May 28, 2015 (JUBA) - A leading South Sudanese armed opposition commander allied to the former vice president, Riek Machar, has confirmed receiving messages and contacts from people in president Salva Kiir’s government proposing to him and his group to accept going into a parallel dialogue with the government.

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SPLA in Opposition generals Gatwech Dual (R), Dau Aturjong (C) and Gabriel Tanginye pictured in Pagak on 8 December 2014 (ST)

Major General Dau Aturjong who commands rebel forces in Northern Bahr el Ghazla said he had been approached many times by government officials and agents to initiate a separate negotiation with him away from the Addis Ababa peace process.

“They have been trying to talk to us with the view that we get into separate negotiation from Addis [Ababa] with them. They want to localize our grievances but we have told them clearly that we are part of the national matters, which are being discussed in Addis by our team,”, General Aturjong told Sudan Tribune in an exclusive interview on Thursday.

The government, according to him, had been contacting him and his group through different categories of people and organizations to persuade them to make a separate arrangement with Juba.

“They have never stopped contacting us through different category of people. They are using relatives, religious leaders, my comrades in the army, police and security as well as business people,” he explained.

He also said his troops, which size is not known, have taken complete control of areas near the Sudanese border, but denied that he and his forces were getting support from the government of neighbouring Sudan.

His own headquarters, he said, has been 250 kilometers away from the common border with neighbouring Sudan in an area deeply inside South Sudanese territory since he moved to the region in 2014.

He dismissed allegations that his forces were stationed at disputed territories with Sudan and not inside South Sudan.

“Our forces are outside the disputed areas. We are not in Mile 14 area. We are inside South Sudan, far away from the disputed areas. If there is anybody who is looking for us, he will get us here,” he said.

General Aturjong was reacting to a question asking him to comment on reports that his forces had only taken advantage of the withdrawal of the government forces from the disputed territories and that he had been receiving military supplies, weapons and training from the Sudanese army in Abu Matareq in East Darfur state.

He appealed to the humanitarian organisations to go to the area, saying a lot of people had moved to areas under his control and were helping them to settle so that they could cultivate during this planting season.

People, he said, were running away from the government controlled areas to the opposition held territories, adding this was where they could find a way to cope with the situation.

“They say life in Aweil town and other areas is not easy. They are finding it extremely difficult. They cannot cultivate. But here, they can find a place to cultivate. There is a vast area for cultivation,” he claimed.

He further explained that the opposition appointed governor, Akol Madhan Akol, and his officials were working with the opposition leadership in Pagak to find ways in which humanitarian organisations could extend relief assistance to Northern Bahr el Ghazal state.

He said many vulnerable people were coming to the rebel controlled areas in Northern Bahr el Ghazal, adding they needed shelters, food and items like blankets, saucepans, mosquito net, hoes, axes and farming implements.

The rebel commander also commended Sudanese authorities for opening their gate to South Sudanese fleeing the conflict and other associated difficulties to states in Sudan in search of safety and security.

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  • 28 May 2015 22:12, by Rommel

    These are nothing but lies. Aturjong has lost his mind if he thinks that he can convince people that Khartoum isn’t supporting him and other rebels, and that civilians would find it easier to cultivate in whatever territory he claims the rebels control. Source: http://www.smallarmssurveysudan.org/facts-figures/borderdisputed-areas/14-mile-area.html

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    • 29 May 2015 02:21, by Kenyang

      Rommel,
      Thanks for link. It’ll be shame that members of Dinka Malual will be responsible for future loss of Dinka Malual territory, an area our forefathers defended to this day with honor. NiF will not miss opportunity to use these "bitter for power" group and try to occupy Kiir Adam & other areas. History will be harsh against Dau Aturjong if he misjudges his action.

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      • 29 May 2015 06:21, by Mi diit

        General Dau Aturjong,

        If you don’t like Kiir’s contacts to bring you back to his government and under Malong Awan, and you want to overthrow the two dictators, then when will you begin to fight like a real army General?

        You know very well that talking will not remove Kiir and Awan. How long does it take a true General to mobilize and fight to liberate his state? You have taken too long!

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        • 29 May 2015 07:10, by Rommel

          Mi diit:

          How many times must I tell you that Dau Aturjong can do nothing to help your cause? The people of Northern Bahr el Ghazal will not support him because of his alliance with Riek. You are banking on the impossible.

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      • 29 May 2015 07:06, by Rommel

        Kenyang:

        You’re welcome, brother. Aturjong is making a monumental mistake by allying himself with a murderous traitor like Riek. I can’t believe that politicians in South Sudan think that they can resort to rebellion anytime they fail to take office. You know Bahr el Ghazal very well [far more than I do] and so I will be deferring to you on this.

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        • 29 May 2015 09:01, by Mi diit

          Rommel,

          So what you are saying is that no matter how genuine the cause for war is, as long as it is championed by a Nuer (Riek Machar) the Dinka will not join it to overthrow the dictator (Salva Kiir).

          And what does this thinking imply? Isn’t it tribalism on your part?

          Look, Nuer Generals are fighting for you yet you massacred their relatives in Juba in Dec. 2013. Let them read your comments.

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          • 29 May 2015 09:13, by Rommel

            Mi diit

            Your cause is not genuine. If the movement was led by anyone else but Riek, people would join in flocks. The Nuer are not the problem — Riek is the problem; the man is responsible for having killed tens of thousands of civilians and helped Khartoum to secure control over the oilfields, which in turn enabled Khartoum to purchase billions of dollars worth of sophisticated weaponry..

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            • 29 May 2015 09:19, by Rommel

              I have said this before and I will say it again. Riek was instrumental in Khartoum’s ability to purchase sophisticated weaponry during the war, and was therefore complicit in Khartoum’s war crimes. Khartoum wouldn’t have been able to prosecute the war the way they did without the helping hand of Riek and Matip. He is not a viable alternative.

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              • 29 May 2015 09:20, by Rommel

                Riek has committed egregious human rights abuses on a wide scale. The man is a mass murderer, responsible for the deaths of close to 30, 000 civilians. The fact that Riek can so insouciantly condemn mass killings and genocide while ostensibly championing human rights after having murdered so many people must mean that he is a sociopath, or mentally disturbed at the very least.

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                • 29 May 2015 09:22, by Rommel

                  This is what Riek said to a journalist-historian in the wake of the 1991 split:

                  He discounted tribalism as “from a different age”, though boasted that he has “not seen a Nuer who doesn’t support me.” In the same breath, he added, “if there is a tribal element, the Nuer would destroy all the Dinka.” (Me Against My Brother: At War in Somalia, Sudan and Rwanda, Scott Peterson)

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                  • 29 May 2015 09:23, by Rommel

                    "The atrocities committed are things [the Dinka] asked for”, he said. He claimed he had dictated what happened: “Fighting at Bor did not get out of control. I was in total control of how far the troops went. “(Me Against My Brother: At War in Somalia, Sudan and Rwanda, Scott Peterson)

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                    • 29 May 2015 09:24, by Rommel

                      How can anyone possibly support a man so disturbed, so delusional that he would so sickeningly boast that his tribe could wipe out an entire tribe!? It seems that people are ignorant of Riek’s terrible human rights violations, his caustic tribal rhetoric and his history of failures. He is not a viable alternative.

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                      • 29 May 2015 09:25, by Rommel

                        Is this the same man that claims that he can unite the people of South Sudan!? How!? How will reconciliation be possible under him when he is guilty of having murdered -directly and indirectly- 30, 000 civilians!? He is a deceptive, mass murdering chauvinist. He has no genuine regard for democracy or equality. He has killed tens of thousands of civilians. He is tainted. He has no credibility.

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                        • 29 May 2015 11:19, by Mi diit

                          Rommel,

                          So you dwell on things that took place 24 years ago and not what took place one year ago. You are hypocrite. Why do you stay with Kiir who massacred civilians?

                          And by the way, there is no SPLM leader whose hand is not stained with blood since May 1983 including late John Garang.

                          And Dr. Riek did very well in the CPA implementation and yet you don’t give him credit for it.

                          Tribalism!!!

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                          • 29 May 2015 11:38, by Rommel

                            Mi diit:

                            You are an idiot of the worst kind. I have already told you [many times now] that I don’t support Salva Kiir and that I think he should resign, immediately. Unlike Riek, Dr. John Garang did not order the killing of tens of thousands of civilians, and so your pathetic attempt at moral equivalence fails.

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                            • 29 May 2015 11:41, by Rommel

                              You don’t seem to realise that it doesn’t matter that 24 years has passed since Riek murdered close to 30, 000 civilians. Time does not absolve you of crimes committed. If you commit murder, you are a murderer for life. Why do you think that Israel and Jewish groups all over the world hunt, track down and arrest Nazi war criminals many decades after the crimes?

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                              • 29 May 2015 11:52, by Mi diit

                                Rommel,

                                I know you come from late Garang’s home town. But please don’t be hypocrite. Who ordered for killing of Gajaak Nuer in 1985? Was Garang not the chairman and commander in chief of SPLA? If you blame Riek for leading 1991 massacre, equally blame Garang for leading 1985 massacre, etc and Kiir for leading 2013 massacre.

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                                • 29 May 2015 11:56, by Mi diit

                                  And don’t exaggerate that 30,000 Bor were killed by Riek. Give me the list of their names. And don’t forget that 2 million died, not killed by Riek, but by Garang’s war. Many Bor people died of hunger and diseases like the rest in South Sudan. It was not Riek who killed them. Look, you guys now refute that 20,000 Nuer were killed in Juba in 2013 but happy to claim 30,000 for Bor in 1991. Sad!

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                                • 29 May 2015 12:06, by Rommel

                                  Mi diit:

                                  It was Kerubino that ordered the retaliation against the Gajaak after thousands of unarmed, exhausted, thirsty, hungry and terribly emaciated Dinka civilians [recruits] were set upon and murdered in cold blood by your people. We lost over 6, 000 patriotic recruits this way.

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                                  • 29 May 2015 12:15, by Mi diit

                                    Rommel,

                                    I know you will do everything to clean Dr. Garang. It is like saying the Nuer were massacred in Juba by Malong Awan without Kiir knowing about it. Kerubino was Garang’s deputy in the highest leadership. How oome he did the order without his commander in chief and why Garang didn’t intervene to stop the massacre that went on for months? Is it fair to say the Bor massacre was a revenge?

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                              • 29 May 2015 11:54, by Rommel

                                Find me evidence of Garang using the same caustic tribal rhetoric. Find me evidence of Garang boasting about wiping out an entire tribe. Find me evidence of Garang saying that the Dinka have the right to steal lands belonging to smaller tribes just like when Riek claimed that it is a "human right" for the Nuer to lay claim to Anyuak land. You can’t, but you’re free to try.

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                                • 29 May 2015 12:11, by Mi diit

                                  Rommel,

                                  Late Garang was clever not to expose his tribal policies to the public. But his actions spoke volume. Or do you think the massacre of Gajaak in thousands was an accident? Their many villages burnt to ashes and the people who did the command were Garang’s deputies, Kerubino and William Nyuon. There are living witnesses who confirmed Garang’s hand in this. Otherwise, why he didn’t stop it!

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                                • 29 May 2015 12:13, by Rommel

                                  The massacre was not the end of the tragedy in Bor, however. An estimated 100, 000 people fled the area following the attack, and after many of the villages had been burnt to the ground. According to Amnesty International, famine brought about by looting and the destruction of crops and livestock killed a further 25, 000 people, many of them children. ( South Sudan Max Lovell-Hoare)

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                                  • 29 May 2015 12:15, by Rommel

                                    To request that I provide you with a list [I presume names] of all those people that Riek massacred or delivered unto death when his forces destroyed the crops and looted all the livestock... is absurd. How can I possibly have all the names of every single person that Riek murdered in Duk, Twic-east and Bor!?

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                                    • 29 May 2015 12:16, by Rommel

                                      It’s obvious that instead of actually disputing my posts you just sit there and whine about it like a silly child! Your obscenely exacting demand proves that you are way past delusional, and that you are a full blown psychotic in need of professional help. Do you suppose that Riek’s forces kept records of all the people they killed?

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                                      • 29 May 2015 12:16, by Rommel

                                        Or do you contend that Amnesty International had the resources to locate, contact and interview every single person from Duk, Twic-east and Bor on the four corners of the earth to get the names of relatives lost!? What you’re suggesting is impossible. Anyone who has a modicum of intelligence understands this. You do too. So why do you continue to embarrass yourself by ’pretending’ to be stupid?

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                                        • 29 May 2015 12:23, by Rommel

                                          There is no evidence that Garang ordered the massacre of civilians on a tribal basis. You have no evidence, and you will not be able to provide evidence of any kind should I push you on this. Kerubino was second in command of SPLA forces and had considerable autonomy; he demonstrated this autonomy when he captured towns in Blue Nile against Garang’s wishes...

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                                          • 29 May 2015 12:26, by Rommel

                                            ..He again demonstrated his considerable autonomy when he deployed soldiers to Bahr el Ghazal to protect civilians from Murahaleen raids in opposition to Garang’s very explicit orders to keep soldiers concentrated in Equatoria.

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                                    • 29 May 2015 12:19, by Mi diit

                                      Rommel,

                                      If you can’t find the list then you don’t have evidence to claim 30,000 dead. You should stop exaggerating the matter. What others learnt about that tragedy was that over 2,000 Bor were killed. That was the estimation though.

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                                      • 29 May 2015 12:23, by Mi diit

                                        I thought as an intellectual you were basing your inflated figure on scientific findings. I thought those who lost family memebers in Bor community could provide names. But it seems 24 years later you don’t even know who died and who survived in 1991 alleged massacre. Interesting!

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                                        • 29 May 2015 12:29, by Rommel

                                          Mi diit:

                                          Are you illiterate or something? I already provided you with evidence from Amnesty International clearly spelling out that 25, 000 people died as a consequence of a famine brought about by the purposeful destruction of crops and livestock? Did you read that part? Are you blind or just stupid?

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                                          • 29 May 2015 12:34, by Rommel

                                            By the way, do you have a list of all the people that were supposedly killed in the Gajaak massacre? Of course you don’t. I have provided evidence from Amnesty International detailing the deaths of 25, 000 civilians in a man made famine — created by Riek. You are free to fluctuate your opinions as you like, and we are free to dismiss your fluctuations as irrelevant.

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                                            • 29 May 2015 12:37, by Rommel

                                              Now look carefully and pretend for a moment that you are not abysmally intellectually challenged, but that you are actually capable of processing information like a normal human being, because I am going to try to fill that bacterium size ’brain’ of yours with some logic and reasoning.

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                                              • 29 May 2015 12:42, by Rommel

                                                It might actually be impossible to teach you anything. No one can explain anything to you, as your brain is defective. So I use you for comedy as a degenerate and intransigent child, and teach others instead. You should be happy to at least be useful, in spite of your limitations. Your on-going postings only prove that you really don’t want to learn anything.

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                                          • 29 May 2015 12:44, by Mi diit

                                            Rommel,

                                            You must sick to believe that what is estimated by Amnesty International is absolutely scientific. They call it estimates. It is like now they say 10,000 people died and others say 50,000 dead. Did they get names of victims from the Bor community? If the Bor community could just base their figure on estimates by outsiders and not themselves, then there is something wrong in your head...

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                                            • 29 May 2015 12:47, by Mi diit

                                              I just want to advise you to stop making nonsensical arguments over matters you are not sure of. It makes you look or sound stupid.

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                                              • 29 May 2015 12:53, by Rommel

                                                Mi diit:

                                                You’re not speaking to one of your mindless and superstitious tribesmen. Unlike them, I’m actually capable of rational thought. The 10, 000 figure was an early estimate... only weeks into the conflict and wasn’t updated until many months later with the 50, 000 figure. There is no real discrepancy. You are a desperate idiot.

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                                                • 29 May 2015 12:58, by Rommel

                                                  Even with the most well know case of genocide [the Holocaust] the figures vary but the essence of what transpired is not doubted by any serious scholar today. The point is not necessarily to convince a person such as yourself, in denial, to see objective material presented, but for the understanding of the perceptive.

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                                              • 29 May 2015 12:57, by Mi diit

                                                You pretend to be an intellectual when you are simply a diehard tribal chauvinist. Your hidden mission is to protect Garang’s image and that of your community (Bor). You attempt to devilish and spoil names of Kiir and Dr. Machar with the hope that somebody else from your Bor community or other allies will take over the government. But as a wrong strategist, you fail to get that this is impossible.

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                                                • 29 May 2015 13:02, by Mi diit

                                                  If the small Bor community couldn’t even manage to do headcount in families on those who allegedly died in 1991 massacre, then where is your intellectuality or so-called historical evidences that you bore the forum with for many years? You are as illiterate as your community and stop depending on exaggerated figures by outsiders as if you are an idiot, which of course you are.

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                                                • 29 May 2015 13:03, by Rommel

                                                  Mi diit:

                                                  How many times must I tell you to stop embarrassing yourself with these laughable attempts at psychoanalysis? You are an absolute dolt and so you really should keep your mouth shut. I [and Garang] are not from Bor — I am from Twic east. Get it right.

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                                                  • 29 May 2015 13:08, by Rommel

                                                    All your replies are failures. The premise is just plain stupid. Only stupidity keeps your posts going. This boils down to the fact that you have nothing whatsoever to present that will defend your position, so good luck with denying, diverting, and accusing, as it will only last for so long when confronted with evidence.

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                                                    • 29 May 2015 13:17, by Rommel

                                                      The combined population of Duk, Twic east and Bor is well over a quarter of a million in size. Has the eastern Jikany sub-section [Gajaak] provided the names of all the people that supposedly died in the massacre? This obscene methodology [that you insist on] is not used anywhere in the world to determine estimates in genocides whether from the holodomor, the Holocaust or the Rwandan genocide.

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                                                  • 29 May 2015 13:10, by Mi diit

                                                    Rommel,

                                                    Look, you now want to divert the topic by trying to resort to nonsensical argument over your identity. This is after you lost the battle due to your childish arguments.

                                                    Garang used to refer to himself as from Bor (Greater Bor). Whether you are from Twic East or Duk, you are all referred to as Greater Bor people.

                                                    And why should this suddenly become an important topic?

                                                    Tribalism!!!

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                                                    • 29 May 2015 13:18, by Mi diit

                                                      And when you yourself always argue that 30,000 people were allegedly massacred in 1991 in Bor, you definitely mean people of Greater Bor community (Bor, Twic East and Duk). Or do you mean this figure was killed from Twic East alone, or from Bor Goak alone?

                                                      I suppose you mean Greater Bor community in general. If so, then where did I go wrong? You must be sick in the head, Rommel.

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                                                      • 29 May 2015 15:15, by Rommel

                                                        Mi diit:

                                                        Whether or not Garang embraced the concept of Greater Bor is immaterial. Whether or not it has gained traction and currency in international coverage, is also irrelevant. The truth is ultimately what matters. The so called ’greater bor’ communities are distinct; they all have different origins, different dialects, customs, norms and practices.

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                                                        • 29 May 2015 15:17, by Rommel

                                                          The methodology that you insist on using [in absolute desperation] is not used anywhere in the world from the Armenian genocide to the Holdomor to the Holocaust, the Rwandan genocide and the Darfur genocide. I provided evidence, and you didn’t like it and lashed out like a child.

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                                                          • 29 May 2015 18:35, by Rommel

                                                            You are displaying your stupidity again. In what perverted world can I have lost? Anybody with any sense understands that I provided evidence for my claims from esteemed international bodies while all you did was desperately deny the evidence with childish language and exotic reasoning.

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                                                            • 29 May 2015 18:37, by Rommel

                                                              You are in no position to rail against tribalism. You’re the biggest tribalist here. You wear your new mask well. Where’s the resentful, militant Nuer Nationalist we all know and ’love’? The man that routinely issued threats if a certain tribe didn’t make way for the Nuer and their prophesied, chosen leader?

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                                                              • 29 May 2015 18:37, by Rommel

                                                                Your new mantra must be "look like the innocent flower, but be the serpent underneath". I remember when you very much resembled the Jihadist; you were just as fanatical, just as irreverent, just as monomaniacal and would just as quickly issue obscene threats and ’prophecies’ against other tribes. Would the real Mi diit please stand up?

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                                                                • 29 May 2015 18:38, by Rommel

                                                                  Unlike you, I don’t believe that anyone has been prophesied by a tribal ’prophet’ to lead this country. I don’t believe that this ’prophet’ can curse sections of of other tribes with unseemly physical traits [bad teeth]; and I don’t believe that "It will be the Murle and Bor to reap the ugly sour grape when the dust has settled sometime very near."

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  • 29 May 2015 03:40, by Uncle J

    Dau Aturjong is following the footsteps of late Kharubino Kwanyin Bol whose local song in Dinka goes "Kwanyin Bol ayaduw duw ee aduw cii ok la yien Nuer" so yeah Aturjong is now bringing Nuer to his own people what a great fool...!!!!

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    • 29 May 2015 06:28, by Mi diit

      Uncle J,

      So those of Nuer Generals fighting for Kiir such as General Gony Biliu, General Puljang, General Buay Rolnyang and other Nuer Generals and thousands of soldiers are fools to bring Dinka to the Nuer lands, right?

      I hope those foolish Nuer leaders in Juba and their Generals will read how Dinka think of them. They are fools!!!

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      • 29 May 2015 11:22, by Uncle J

        Mate sorry you didn’t relate the contact right to those of Nuer fighting for the government...they did not localize their national identity being an army of the country that’s but Aturjong is a fool trying to show muscles to his mum and dad. Even if Riek achieve his dream today Aturjong will still be shit

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  • 29 May 2015 06:41, by Son of Ngundeng

    Dear Reader:
    Make sure an empty tin always could make noise, Dear General Atur Jong please those calls from rotten regime don’t care to pick up their calls, because they are still the same people which you left in Juba nothing new. But because the war its in-door to Awan clan does why they hurry up to bring you back.

    Son of Ngundeng currently
    in front line Pathay
    Jonglei State.

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