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S. Sudan rejects proposal to scrap vice-president post

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November 11, 2014 (JUBA) – The South Sudanese government said it would not yield to its armed opposition demands to have the vice-president’s position scrapped and replaced with a prime minister.

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South Sudan’s vice-pesident, James Wani Igga, speaks at the opening of the SPLM building in Juba on 15 November 2013 (Photo: Larco Lomayat)

Cabinet affairs minister, Martin Elia Lomuro said such a proposal was never tabled before government and mediators of the peace talks.

“The government delegation did not receive such proposal from IGAD. We only read it from the media reports attributing statements carrying such suggestions to the rebels, and I don’t I understand the basis of the proposal,” Lomuro said on Tuesday.

According to the minister, the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD) protocol of agreed principles was the basis of negotiations and places the vice president above the prime minister.

“The IGAD protocol of agreed principles is the guiding document on the negotiation. It recognizes the system of governance in the republic of South Sudan as a presidential system. In the transitional constitution, the position of vice president is there,” he stressed.

The prime minister’s post, Lomoru said, was a creation of IGAD, which was government willingly embraced for the sake of peace.

The deputy speaker of the country’s national assembly, Mark Nyipuoc said citizens of South Sudan will have to decide on any proposal that calls for the demotion of the country’s vice president.

“This is a not subject of discussion. It is actually a redline issue and you in the media must stop asking this divisive question. Our people cannot afford further division and the house cannot accept to amend the constitution without seeking the consent of the people of South Sudan”, Nyipuoc exclusively told Sudan Tribune on Tuesday.

In a statement issued Monday, the armed opposition lead negotiator, Taban Deng Gai said the proposed transitional period requires direct engagement of the two principals as it shall require trust and confidence between the president and the prime minister.

“The suggestion made by some quarters that removal of the vice president from the government structure smacks of marginalisation of Equatorians (Bantus) by the Nilotics is incitingly absurd and does not augur well for peace, reconciliation and national healing in South Sudan,” said Gai in a statement extended to Sudan Tribune.

“We accepted in Arusha that the responsibility and the root cause of the conflict lies in the political failure of the SPLM and not in the ethnic and regional configuration of South Sudan. The conflict should not endure simply on account of certain individuals being affected by the changes occasioned by the implementation of the Peace Agreement. The CPA implementation [2005 – 2011] is a living example of changes in the government structure in the Sudan,” it added.

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Meanwhile, South Sudan’s information minister, Michael Makuei Lueth said government would continue offering concessions in the interest of peace, but opposed IGAD’s suggestion that both the president and prime minister be allowed to appoint governors and ministers.

“In the world, there is nothing called joint appointment," said minister Makuei.

“You appoint in consultations with; or with the consent of; somebody but there is no joint appointment because when you make joint appointment it means that the order of appointment must be signed by the two people. Government is not a company,” he added.

Thousands of people have been killed and about 1.8 million displaced since fighting broke out late last year, despite regional efforts to end the conflict through peace talks.

Last week, however, both warring parties agreed to 15-day ultimatum for formation of a transitional government of national unity seeking an end to the 11-month old conflict.

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  • 12 November 2014 07:43, by Mi diit

    Ahahahaa..Juba government is manned by confused thugs, each speaking his or her own tongue. If it was not tabled what was your president Nyankiir Museveni doing in Addis Ababa? What was he discussing with Dr. Machar? You mean he didn’t brief you, or did he deny talking to Dr. Machar about this. OMG!

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    • 12 November 2014 07:46, by Mi diit

      That position of vice president for Wani Igga is good-for-nothing any way. It is a symbol of humiliation and embarrassment to the people of Greater Equatoria region. He is a yes-man who only approves discrimination policies drafted against Equatorians and the rest by the Dinka kingdom. It is a shame to fight for unhelpful position.

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      • 12 November 2014 07:55, by Mi diit

        Look at their uncivilised confusions; Martin Elia who remains behind in Juba only to receive Kiir from Addis and lick his feet denies IGAD presented the president and prime minister positions, while Makuei Lueth in the same article admitted that IGAD actually presented to them the positions of president and prime minister. Now who is correct between the two officials of the same government. THUGS!

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        • 12 November 2014 08:27, by Mr Point

          This is a not subject of discussion. It is actually a redline issue and you in the media must stop asking this divisive question....”, Nyipuoc exclusively told Sudan Tribune on Tuesday.

          The juba faction stands for government of the people by the people who want to keep their positions in government, no matter what the people need.

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        • 12 November 2014 10:26, by Maper

          Midit,
          I think you rushed to comment before reading the article well.
          Elia didn’t deny that Kiir n Riek made some discussions about the post of prime minister BUT HE DENIED THAT THE SCRAPING/ABOLITIOn OF VICE-PRESIDENT POST WAS NOT TABLED IN ADDIS and that the post of vp is above pm.

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        • 12 November 2014 16:35, by Rommel

          Mi diit:

          As usual, you are being an idiot — a myopic, imperceptive fool — your lack of comprehension verging on the illiterate. IGAD has not proposed the dissolution of the Vice Presidency position. IGAD has merely outlined the respective powers of the President and the Prime Minister. It said nothing of dissolving the post of the Vice President.

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          • 12 November 2014 17:22, by Mi diit

            Rommel,

            Ah, Rommel, the "spin doctor." You must be related to the fake professor Jok Madut.

            Who is the fool between us now? Is it not you who deny the facts in Addis Ababa and also ally with the Uganda president who murdered John Garang through Nyankiir’s conspiracy, and yet you reward Museveni with billions of dollars, licking his bloody hand, just to kill the Nuer, and maybe Kiir in the end?

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            • 12 November 2014 18:13, by Rommel

              Mi diit:

              "Spin doctor"? Hmm, that’s interesting. I don’t spin anything, I actually provide evidence for my claims whereas you never provide a shred of evidence for your untenable and self-contradictory claims. And when I provide evidence, you foam at the mouth and engage in childish conspiracy theories... that the multitude of historians that I cite are either biased or have been payed off.

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              • 12 November 2014 18:14, by Rommel

                ..You do this for one reason: you want to debate, but don’t know how. You continue to be bedeviled by illiteracy, and the inability to behave like an adult. The most dishonest person is trying to disparage others by using the word "spin doctor" when this word perfectly applies to him. I sense a slow wit, that can’t grasp irony.

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                • 12 November 2014 18:20, by Rommel

                  You’re speaking of Dr. John Garang’s death as though you people actually care. Didn’t you want him dead? Isn’t that why you allied with Khartoum? Salva Kiir’s time is up. I want Salva Kiir to leave, immediately, but he cannot be replaced by a *traitor* like Riek. I despise Salva Kiir for the shameful alliance that he has made with Uganda.

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                  • 12 November 2014 18:23, by Rommel

                    There is no justifying this terribly dishonorable alliance. Salva has brought *shame* upon a people that lost well over a million of their own in a war infinitely more difficult, exacting and costly than this. Our enemy was smarter and stronger. Salva has little to no support from our people, and so couldn’t possibly be entrusted with the duty and responsibility to prosecute this war. He must go

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                    • 12 November 2014 18:24, by Rommel

                      When Riek defected in the 90s and committed massacres against Dinka communities in khorfulus, Pariang, Abiemnom, Twic-east, Duk and Bor, while his forces subjected the people of Bahr el Ghazal to raids... It was at that point that the Dinka united behind a leadership that they believed in and forced out Riek’s forces from their lands...

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                      • 12 November 2014 18:26, by Rommel

                        .. With our counterattacks penetrating deep into Uror, Akobo, Nyirol, Yuai and Ayod in 1991-2. In addition to the Dinka of Greater Upper Nile, the Dinka of Lakes State and the people of Tonj don’t even want to fight for Salva Kiir. The Lake State group includes the Agar, Ciec, Atuot, Gok and the Aliap.

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                        • 12 November 2014 18:27, by Rommel

                          If this unfortunate incident had transpired under Dr. John Garang’s leadership... recruitment centers and military training camps would have swelled with eager and determined men, and Riek would have been defeated just like he was before. We can endure hardship. We contributed the most divisions and martyrs. We can endure being the primary target of Khartoum’s war designs and campaigns...

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                          • 12 November 2014 18:30, by Rommel

                            We can endure [as we have before] losing well over a million people for a cause that we believe in. We have confronted infinitely stronger, smarter and more numerous enemies. Salva Kiir needs to be removed, by force if necessary and replaced by anybody but Riek.

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                            • 12 November 2014 18:34, by Rommel

                              I actually want the Ugandans to withdraw. I would love nothing more than for that to happen with immediate effect. We didn’t need the Ugandans when we defeated you in the 90s, even when you were allied with the SAF, the PDF, the Misseriya and the Rizeigat Arabs of the Murahaleen, the LRA, the Equatorial Defence force and the Bari dominated Popular Resistance Movement/Army.

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                              • 12 November 2014 18:37, by Rommel

                                You dare you use the word "Fact"? LOL! You don’t know the meaning of the word. A *fact* is something that can be verified. A *fact* is something that can be reproduced for analysis. A *fact* is given credence to by multiple, impartial and dispassionate sources affirming its veracity. Are you doing that ghastly thing again in which you gratuitously redefine words for your own ends?

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                                • 12 November 2014 18:42, by Rommel

                                  Provide evidence that The Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD) has proposed the dissolution of the post of the Vice Presidency. Provide evidence. Please cite a source. I know that you won’t be able to provide a source. You can’t debate. You can’t cite sources . You can’t even counter facts. You’re only good for laughs.

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                                  • 12 November 2014 18:43, by Rommel

                                    Put up the requested evidence or admit that you were lying. Intellect-free garble, empty hearsay, tall tales, rumours, dubious anecdotes and context-free ranting is no substitute for *relevant* and fully-contextualized evidence. Do you really expect people to be stupid enough to just go Okey-dokey whatever you say? You’re an idiot.

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    • 12 November 2014 11:23, by mzalendo mwema

      Dear Mi diit,

      Wani Igga is a man of South Sudanese.He has nleo blood of innocent people in his hands.Unless Dr hyena or useless or fake P.H.D holder Riek Machar whose his ands are full with blood of South Sudanese.

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      • 12 November 2014 11:30, by mzalendo mwema

        Wani Igga has no blood in hands.He witll be your pre M dsident one day mr Mi diit.Now forget about that fake P.H.D holder Dr fool Riek Macha

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    • 12 November 2014 12:39, by Mayom County Boy

      To: Madiit .do n. t be surprise for what Makuei Lueth say.
      Makuei just pressing what HE president rejecting
      please be aware that we are ready to fight rebel of riek machar very soon
      it become dry season no way for us to accept what may not be good for our current goverment .
      no doubt only fight that may solut this current war
      perpare you AKM for tomorrow war ,

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      • 12 November 2014 13:01, by Mi diit

        mzalendo mwema,

        Wani Igga has no blood in his hands, blah, blah, blah. What about all the Equatorians who die daily, killed by the Dinka through Wani Igga’s chickening blessing including ex-Yei commissioner, land grabbing, etc. Yes a coward yes-man like Igga will not kill directly, but indirectly. His coward hands have innocent blood.

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    • 12 November 2014 21:26, by Reconciliation

      Midit,you are out of your mind.You rebels are fond of creating things here and there.But it will not help you.Stop putting impossible proposals for peace talk.You guys will finish for no good reason.Just accept peace.You will never win this war.

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  • 12 November 2014 07:43, by marie

    Martin Elia or whoever is barking there, knows their days are numbered in the government. This is not the time to talk of constitution when it is the same constitution that brought the whole mess in South Sudan. Transitional government is a new structure altogether, it is not cut and pasting this rotten government. For the sake of peace, we do not mind if we have Equatorians in the government.

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  • 12 November 2014 07:45, by Gangura

    We rebels have made our point blank, post of VP mast be removed and all executive powers should be give to a Prime Minister and Mr. stupid Kirr should handle ceremony powers, you Martin Lomuro we do not know why your making noise and u Juba goverment still do murder people like what u did to Hon. Cecili Oba and be informed all of you saving under Kirr will not appear in the upcoming goverment.

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    • 12 November 2014 08:08, by Chol A.

      Oops, rebels are still dreaming of Dr Nyanriek back to the post! Will your hope come true? Let’s wait and see how it happen.

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      • 12 November 2014 08:30, by Mr Point

        If there will be a President and a Prime Minister who hold all of the executive powers of government, then what is the purpose and what are the powers of the Vice President?

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      • 12 November 2014 09:29, by Stephen kuach

        Midiit.
        S.sudanese are looking for quick way to end this senseless war by all means and restore our citizens livelihood back to normal just like the way we were before the war started,so let us forgive and be happy toward one another,what might had gone wrong within our communities,is too late to be solve by war but by peace,because with peace we can move mountians together.

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  • 12 November 2014 11:29, by wang

    Simply, who’s actually rejected the IGAD’s proposal? I am feeling bad for that yes man which wandering around the Juba, while doesn’t has any clues about what is going on aboard…Dinka should have or openly need to tell that blind man a truth about what the Mrs. Kiir M7 and Makuei Lueth had accepted on a tabled in Ethiopia….

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    • 12 November 2014 14:00, by Lango2010

      time will come when the rebels who are given position like the Prime Minister etc who reject to the position for fear of their lives because not all the rebels will be accommodated in the ministerial post, and if the realized that blood of innocent people are crying out to the Most High God.

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      • 12 November 2014 14:16, by Lango2010

        everybody has known now that machar rebellion was for the sake of the people but for his lost position, so why should every innocent person die for the sake one person every time. how will the widows and orphans benefit from the position of Riak Machar if he is appointed a Prime Minister?

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