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INTERVIEW: Machar defends calls for federalism, expresses concerns over mediators’ role

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June 30, 2014 (ADDIS ABABA) – South Sudan’s former vice-president and leader of the SPLM- in-opposition has defended his calls for a federal system of governance, stressing it will accommodate the country’s diversity.

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South Sudanese rebel leader Riek Machar gives a press conference in the Ethiopian capital, Addis Ababa, on 12 May 2014 (Photo: AFP/Zacharias Abubeker)

In an exclusive interview with Tesfa-Alem Tekle, Sudan Tribune’s Ethiopian correspondent, Riek Machar said that South Sudanese have been calling a federal system since 1947, adding that the idea of self determination emanated from this demand.

"History shows that this has been the demand of the people of South Sudan and in actual fact they developed this demand to a point of calling for the right of self-determination," he said.

He further pointed to Switzerland’s federal system, to illustrate how much federalism can positively respond to the South Sudanese diversity.

“In Switzerland there are four nationalities that lived in harmony when they established federalism. So the same we are a diverse nation, there are nationalities, ethnic groups there are people of different cultures,” he said.

President Salva Kiir rejects Machar’s demand for federalism saying the country is not ready to implement it. The South Sudanese head of state further accused Machar of using this to draw the support of South Sudanese, particularly Equatorians.

In a lengthy interview with Sudan Tribune, Machar developed the concerns they have on the way and manner that IGAD mediators are handling the peace talks.

He criticised the method adopted by the mediation, saying they take decisions on behalf of the negotiating parties stressing that the two rivals should make the decisions.

“The driving force should not be the IGAD. IGAD should be the moderator. They bring us together since we are willing to come together under the auspices of IGAD, the parties should drive the process,” he explained.

He also downplayed the differences with the group of SPLM political detainees saying they share the SPLM platform and the agenda for political reforms in the country.

As part of the efforts to find a way out of the six month-old conflict, the rebel leader said he is planning to pay visits to the US, China and other western countries.

He vowed to continue the struggle to achieve democratic reforms in the new nation.


Below is the full text of the interview with the rebel leader in which he explained why he had to establish an armed movement and his future plans as pro- democratic reformist.

REGIONAL TOUR

ST: You are recently making a regional tour including plans to pay visit to Sudan and Djibouti, what is the aim of your regional tour and what do you expect from the IGAD member states?

MACHAR: I want to explain what has happened on the 15th of December 2013. President Salva kiir has been moving in the region in IGAD countries and in the Great Lakes countries telling them that I have made a coup. I haven’t made a coup. Even when the 11 of my colleagues were in prison the charge against them that they have made a coup is false to me. There was no coup. Of course there was fighting in the presidential guards on the 15 [December]. Salva is responsible for them.

So I want to tell to the world and the region in particular IGAD that is mediating that I haven’t made a coup. I am innocent and being innocent. The false charge of making coup has damaged my reputation. South Sudan was born out of a democratic process exercise of self-determination by the people of South Sudan.
I have plans to visit Djibouti and Khartoum and I hope I will do that when the time comes. I also want to explain to the regional leaders the importance of peace being brought back to South Sudan. The mediators have a big role so that there is no delay in attaining peaceful settlement.
These are the main reasons of my tour to IGAD member states.

CHINESE ROLE

ST: Why haven’t you paid visit to the US, China or other western countries?

MACHAR: I do have plans. I was supposed to have met the Chinese envoy on the 26th of this month, but he has not come. Also, I have expressed my readiness to pay a visit to China because China is the major partner in oil in South Sudan.
The oil operations have partially stopped in western oil fields in Unity state and if the conflict continues the eastern oil fields will also stop. Therefore it is important that we share ideas together with China.

I understand China is supporting the peace process. I was told China has paid 3 million US dollars to support the peace process. What China is doing is good. So, it is important they [the Chinese] know how we think so we still have to pay a visit china.

ST: How about to the US and western nations?

MACHAR: With regards to US it is within my plan. First, I am sending a delegation to the US, my deputy [Gen Alfred Ladu Gore]. He is processing his documents and he will lead a delegation to the US. Hopefully when he comes back I will also pay a visit to US, not only to the US, but also to other European countries.

CONCERNS OVER IGAD PEACE PROCESS

ST: I spoke to many South Sudanese living here in Ethiopia. They have reservations on the IGAD-led peace process. Are you happy with the way IGAD is handling the peace process?

MACHAR: We have concerns starting from day one. First we appreciate that IGAD took up the challenge to mediate and bring about peace to South Sudan. But we have concerns.

ST: What are your concerns?

MACHAR: We have concerns that they [IGAD] make decisions that affect South Sudan with the presence of two countries that are fighting us. The government of South Sudan sits in the summit when they are making decisions about peace and president Museveni sits in the summit when they are talking about South Sudan.

I have raised these concerns and because of the decisions they make in our absence now we have complications. You remember the idea of having an IGAD protection deterrent force. We resisted that. We gave alternative suggestions. We said we would like an IGAD protection force but integrated to the current UNMISS forces so that they don’t have a different command so that the mission is one.

Currently in South Sudan there are nearly nine different forces. The Uganda has two forces, one fighting us and the other fighting the LRA with different commands. The Sudanese rebels [inside South Sudan] have four factions with different commands, the South Sudan army, the SPLA with government forces, our forces and UNMISS forces.

If we were to allow for another separate force with a different command, we would have ten, the country would be devastated. So, we say it is best that we reach an agreement that the two forces of Uganda and the four forces of Sudanese rebels withdraw from South Sudan and the IGAD forces are integrated to the UN forces. We remain with three forces, government forces, ours and UNMISS forces. That way we will know what goes wrong in the country.

ST: Do you probably suggest the peace process is moved to the African Union (AU) or the UN?

MACHAR: We have concerns with the mediation. First of all the IGAD is making decisions on behalf of the warring parties and I think this is wrong. The warring parties should make the decisions. The driving force should not be the IGAD. IGAD should be the moderator. They bring us together since we are willing to come together under the auspices of IGAD, the parties should drive the process.

They shouldn’t impose issues which any of the party does not appreciate. For example we initiated the stakeholders to be participant. We want them participant in consultative manner. We don’t want them to be negotiating with us because we have no problem with them but we appreciate that we consult them.

We hear their views on what we are discussing. They contribute that but the negotiations must be directly between us. This I hope will be the way forward since the two parties want direct negotiations between themselves with IGAD facilitating instead of IGAD imposing issues themselves. But this concern doesn’t mean the mediation be moved to UN or AU. I think we can debate with the mediators and they can understand. I understand the view of the Ethiopian Prime Minister who is the chair of IGAD and his view is similar to us.

FORMER DETAINEES

ST: Your negotiating team has worked hard to the release of the former detainees. What is your point of view on the position of the formerly detained political leaders who refused to join your negotiating team in the peace talks? Do you feel betrayed?

MACHAR: The 11 former detainees are our comrades. We share one platform, the SPLM platform. We share also the agenda of reform with them.

When the incident of the 15 [December] occurred they were arrested. I wasn’t arrested. I managed to escape not because I was involved in any matter but I was suspicious why such an incident should happen.

There must be an underline reason for it and I felt the president wanted to assassinate all his competitors. In this they were arrested. I escaped and took me time to figure out what to do finally with those who were with me, and we established a resistance. We didn’t consult them on the resistance.

We had discussions with them [former detainees] they don’t want to be involved in an armed struggle. So, that is left to them. Armed struggle is important for change even if you want to get the minimum to make Juba negotiate. This is important.

We are calling on them to join us. I can’t say they have betrayed us because that will be left to them what they want to do and above all you can’t force somebody to join an armed struggle.

TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT OR NATIONAL AGREEMENT

ST: Recently you and the president have signed a new agreement that calls to end fighting and to form a unity government within 60 days. Do you think you will be able to form transitional government in less than two months now?

MACHAR: The most important thing to do is to reach an agreement; an agreement which will be a base for governance and a base for law-making in the country.

Now if we got such an agreement, it has to be implemented by a transitional government of national unity. So you can’t form such a government before you reach a political agreement, addressing the root cause of the problem, restructuring the state, a program for national reconciliation and healing and for accountability.

If these things aren’t addressed and you form a government, that government will fail in a same day. So my position is that reaching an agreement first and then forming a government as a product of the agreement. Let me not be pessimistic I will leave that to the negotiators.

FAKE GENERAL

ST: Recently I spoke to Maj. General John Wiyual Chol Tang. He is the chairman of South Sudan Republican Party (SSRP) and South Sudan Revolutionary Force (SSRF). He alleged to have met you at the bushes in Nasir where the two of you agreed to join your forces to fight government forces. Will you admit making that arrangement?

MACHAR: We welcome anybody who has forces to join us in the fight. I don’t know such an agreement but we welcome any body to join us in the fight because we need people and we can’t refuse anybody.

Our acting chief negotiator [Gabriel Changson Chang] is from a different party. He is not SPLM but from the very start he was affected and he was from an affected party and we welcomed his request. He is also a member of our leadership council [chairman for national committee for finance and resource mobilisation]. So we recognise diversity even within our own party.

INTERIM GOVERNMENT WITHOUT YOU?

ST: Will you accept an interim government that excludes you or Salva Kiir or both of you?

MACHAR: I am interested in getting an agreement that addresses the root causes, restructuring of the state so that the problem doesn’t reoccur and brings about national reconciliation and accountability in the country. What comes up as a government as product of it to me is imitating. It would be premature to say x should be there and x shouldn’t.

ST: Recently, South Sudan vice-president, James Wani lgga said members of the SPLM in opposition should be excluded from getting seat in the interim government. What is your reaction on that remark?

MACHAR: I think he is oblivious about the fact that an agreement is between the two parties. If you exclude one of the parties that make an agreement from which a transitional government will come, I think he isn’t being realistic.

If he wants to form now their own government they can reshuffle their own government 10 times as they wish and we won’t be participating in it but if it is a government which is a product of a peace agreement which we hope to sign, I think it will be unrealistic to say one party be excluded from it which would mean there is no agreement.

FEDERALISM

ST: Your group is in support of federal system of governance which government is against. Do you think the South Sudanese people are ready to accept this new system of governance?

MACHAR: It has been a demand of people of South Sudan since 1947. All governments have failed to implement federalism system of government in South Sudan since 1947. History shows that this has been the demand of the people of South Sudan and in actual fact they developed this demand to a point of calling for the right of self-determination.

ST: Do you think federalism will help solve problems in South Sudan?

MACHAR: Sure. Take the history of Switzerland. It has the experience of 700 years in federalism. They started even when they didn’t know the word federalism but it is that system of governance they established.

In Switzerland there are four nationalities that live in harmony when they establish federalism. So the same we are a diverse nation, there are nationalities, ethnic groups there are people of different cultures. So what will bring us together is a system of governance that accommodates our diversity and that is the federal system of governance.

DIFFERENT VISION

ST: Many political analysts labeled the political crises in South Sudan as power struggle between the two SPLM factions particularly between you and Salva Kiir. What is your reaction on these comments?

MACHAR: It is not. You can’t say it is a power struggle. Initially we were the same party, SPLM. I raised issues that I felt even when I was in government that needed to be corrected: One, corruption which was rampant. Two, tribalism, which was being instituted. Three, insecurity, which was happening. Four, lack of development. Five, the poor relations we had with foreign countries in a very short time and six, the SPLM grassroots which needed serious transformation of the SPLM into a political party.

Six issues I raised while I was in the party. The president however didn’t feel alright about it and he decided to introduce violence into this conflict. We wanted reform so it is not personal struggle between me and president Kiir. But superficially people are saying it is a personal struggle but it isn’t.

When he removed me I accepted although I was his running mate in one ticket but for sake of peace and stability I accepted his decree because I said come in 2015 elections, I will contest.

ST: Is it true that SPLM in opposition has used child soldiers in the recent fighting?

MACHAR: The forces that call themselves SPLM/A are regular forces. There are no child soldiers. But the volunteer fighters are child soldiers. The volunteer fighters are civilians and the culture in the area is that once you are initiated to manhood even if you are 15 years old you are a man and you can go to battle.

This is the problem. We have been telling the volunteer fighters that it is against the law. It is against child right convention and against the law in South Sudan that people under 18 years are taken to combat. But we are struggling with the deep rooted culture. We however don’t recruit child soldiers.

ST: Do you have any particular message you want to convey?

MACHAR: Well, my message is to the readers of Sudan Tribune. I want to tell them again we didn’t make a coup in South Sudan. We are not coup makers. There was only a plot hitched by President Salva Kiir to get rid of his comrades in the SPLM/A, and therefore he made that statement and propagated it. If he would have caught me then we would all be dead and the story would have stuck that we made a coup. We didn’t make a coup. We are democrats.

(ST)

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  • 2 July 02:39, by Rommel

    It’s clear that federalism is the only system that will effectively accommodate South Sudan’s many different tribes, nationalities and cultures. Federalism would create a situation in which powers are more clearly defined; the federal government would be cognizant of what its role is and the powers afforded to it...

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    • 2 July 02:46, by Rommel

      ..But for federalism to work, we will need more States. We need around eighteen [18] States. Equatoria is probably the only region that doesn’t need to be separated into more States. Bahr el Ghazal and ’Greater Upper Nile’ must be divided into more States. Western Bahr el Ghazal is already a largely non-Dinka area, and so Bahr el Ghazal as a whole will only need one [1] or two [2] more States

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      • 2 July 02:48, by Rommel

        Some States need to be dismantled. Jonglei State is far too large and tribally variegated to be a viable State. It should be dismantled and separated into more homogenous States. The Murle have already demonstrated that they want their own State. The Jie and the Kachipo should be transferred to Eastern Equatoria State. The Anyuak should have their own State, per the 1956 border.

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        • 2 July 02:50, by Rommel

          The Jie are quite adamant in their belief that they shouldn’t be under the jurisdiction of Jonglei. The Jie have re-affirmed -again and again- that they are an integral part of Eastern Equatoria. The government in Eastern Equatoria is opposed to the inclusion of the Jie in the newly created ’Greater Pibor’ area.

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          • 2 July 02:56, by Rommel

            The Suri (Kachipo) are related to the Otuko (Lotuka), Didinga, Nyangatom, Boya and the Toposa - the tribes of Eastern Equatoria. The Kachipo and their lands must be governed by Eastern Equatoria State. This is what they want.

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            • 2 July 03:01, by Rommel

              The Thiang and Lak Nuer of Fangak county should form a State with the Gawaar and Lou Nuer. The Dinka counties of Jonglei [Duk, Twic east and Mading Bor] should have their own State. The Padang Dinka of Jonglei should form a State with the Abiliang Dinka of Upper Nile State. Upper Nile should also be dismantled.

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              • 2 July 03:06, by Rommel

                The Maban, Burun and Uduk should have one State to themselves. The Shilluk will definitely have their own State, as will the eastern Jikany. The Dinka of Unity State must also be allowed their own State, and furthermore, it must be removed from the ’Greater Upper Nile’ region and returned to Bahr el Ghazal.

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                • 2 July 03:12, by Rommel

                  The Panaruu and Ruweng Dinka were originally governed as an integral part of Bahr el Ghazal province until 1905, when the British decided to transfer them to Kordofan. When the Panaruu and Ruweng were transferred back to South Sudan in 1928, the British decided to transfer them to the Upper Nile province. This mistake must be corrected — it will be corrected.

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                  • 2 July 04:32, by Wicdail

                    Rommel/Atem or else,
                    Developer is not on drugs. It’s you who are under the incurable disease (jealousy) against Nuers in general and Dr. Rick in particular. Dr. Rick has never killed anyone as you always perceived here. But we never let his vision for take this national forward be undermined by fools who have no objectives/plans, but only to hijack, kill, and corrupts our natural resources.

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                    • 2 July 04:33, by Wicdail

                      It’s apparently true that you guys are good at twisting things around. You are now accepting the idea (federalism), but trying to distort it. LOL!! Is it how you teach people at John Garage College? LOL I doubted whether you would make it this time around.

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    • 2 July 05:49, by Ayuiu Makuac Lam

      Nothing should be achieve without cooperation within among the leaders of south Sudan, thought Riek Machar is desire to visit the US, China and rest of western world countries.
      Federal system is due to be implemented or to vote through referendum after peace is return to the country.

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    • 2 July 09:17, by Alier De Jok

      @rommel you talk of federalism as the system that will accommodate South Sudanese but at first tell us what type of federal system are you gonna adapt becoz there are so many of it and the all it’s merits & demerits so it in writing and people will debate it of course people oppose to it and those in favour of it then later people go for referendom.

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      • 2 July 11:53, by Rommel

        Alier De Jok:

        The kind of federalism that I want for South Sudan very much resembles the federalism that the United States has in place. The United States seems to have the best written and most comprehensive Constitution in the world; it clearly defines the powers of the Federal government and the powers of the States. This is precisely what we need.

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  • 2 July 03:25, by Developer

    For sure people hate you and can kill you when you are doing the right things to lead the people. Good enough you are still a live for us. Your sound like Dr. Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela and Gandi. All the South Sudanese people want your vission, Dr. Reik Macher.

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    • 2 July 03:35, by Rommel

      Developer:

      Are you on drugs!? You can’t mention Riek in the same sentence as these esteemed iconic figures. The biggest difference between them and Riek is simple and yet profound... these men never killed anyone. Not a soul. Riek has directly murdered thousands of men, women, children and elderly, and condemned tens of thousands more to deaths. There are no grounds for comparison.

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      • 2 July 04:03, by Kim Deng

        The great leader and former president of the United States, eliminated tens if not hundred of thousands who refused the union at that time.

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        • 2 July 05:15, by Rommel

          Kim Deng:

          Are you referring to Abraham Lincoln? If so, you should know that he didn’t target women and children. He engaged armies. I’ve read books about the man. I can recommend a very good book for you to read. It’s called: Lincoln Unmasked: What You’re Not Supposed to Know About Dishonest Abe.

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  • 2 July 03:52, by Kim Deng

    Ammel,

    You want the greater Upper Nile to be dismantled because the Nuer as a Nation considers it as its Empire. You (Jaang) of greater Upper Nile are free to leave the land if you refuse to live with Nuer together in that particular place.

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  • 2 July 03:54, by Kim Deng

    Ammel (Rommel),
    Had the Nuer ever wished to occupy the whole greater Upper Nile, from Renk to Mading Bor and from Ruweng/Biemnom to Buma-Gambella, it seems unlikely that the other coward Jurs (Jaang, Teet, Bar, Chai…) could have stopped them.

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    • 2 July 04:39, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:

      Keep on dreaming, you wretched oilfield guard-dog. There will never be a ’Nuer empire’. You couldn’t win against us with the help of your masters during the war, and so I very much doubt that you will be establishing an ’empire’ anytime soon.

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      • 2 July 05:25, by Rommel

        We will be here in ’Greater Upper Nile’ long after you’ve gone. We will be a permanent demographic fixture. Greater Upper Nile isn’t your ’empire’; close to a dozen different tribes live in Greater Upper Nile, and you are just one of them. You are not more important, powerful or exceptional. You will only govern yourselves. You will not rule others on the State level.

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    • 2 July 09:43, by Jalaby

      Kim Deng,
      Who is Ammel? I always believe that Mr. Rommel is Luka Biong but this is my first time that I hear this name (Ammel)! Do you mean "Ammel" as "agent" in Arabic? well, he really does if you mean that LOL!
      You know Mr. Rommel is on his early 20s and never been in Juba before! LOOOOOL

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      • 2 July 10:19, by Rommel

        Jalaby:

        As ever, you’re infatuated with the laughable notion that I could be Luka Biong in disguise. You’re asking Kim Deng to explain something to you? The man is a complete dolt. You would be infinitely better of talking to something wholly non-sentient - something like a rock. Like you, I was struck by his corruption of my pseudonym...

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        • 2 July 10:42, by Rommel

          ..I didn’t know if it was an insult or a childish attempt at distortion. In any case it was incredibly lame. So Kim Deng was trying to call me an ’agent’? I can’t corroborate your interpretation of what ’ammel’ supposedly means and so I’ll just it that. The word for spy in Arabic is apparently ’Jasoos’. I don’t speak Arabic, and so I’ll just have to wait until one of my cousins comes around.

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          • 2 July 10:44, by Rommel

            You don’t seem to believe that I could possibly be in my 20s, and you have offered incredibly fatuous reasons for why you think this is. In addition to making me laugh, you’ve more than just tickled my curiosity. How old do you think I am? Please have the decency to assign me to an age bracket. Am I in my 30s? Could I be in my 40s? *Gasp*... 50s?

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            • 2 July 12:11, by Jalaby

              Rommel,
              You said you’ve never been in Juba before, you mean you’ve never lived in the south before?
              Let us put your age (early 20s) on hold for now and concentrate on the above question!

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              • 2 July 13:25, by Rommel

                Jalaby:

                I was born in Ethiopia, but I lived in South Sudan when I was a small child. I’ve never been to Equatoria. Jonglei [Pochalla in particular] is the only place that I’ve ever been to. Does that answer your question?

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  • 2 July 04:05, by Ito

    Thank you so much comdrade and visionary leader Dr. Riek for enlightening the masses and the world about the cause of the conflict and the need for a federalism in South Sudan. You are a gift from God to save south Sudan and that is why you are hated by enemies of peace. Bible says a good man is not wanted in his own home and this clearly applies to you. But you will succeed. We are behind you.

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    • 2 July 04:08, by Ito

      Bible says people perish because of lack of knowledge and this applies to government soldiers and mercenaries who are wrongly fighting the democratic and peoples forces. South Sudanese must come to understand that the rebel by Riek are fighting for all south sudanese have freedom, justice, democracy, unity and prosperity. Dr. Riek has courage and truth and he will succeed because of that.

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  • 2 July 05:23, by George Bol

    Kim Deng,

    We occupied Nuerlands and sent your likes to camps,do you like that?

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  • 2 July 06:42, by wang

    George Bol
    You sound like a desperate kid….
    If you are talking about those who are stranded in Nasir, the most are Nuer and they are ones who commanded the force. Against it was a UPDF that recaptured Bor, Malakal and perhaps Bentiu last time from Rebels….http://www.southsudannation.com/updf-occupation-of-bor-will-never-stop-peoples-fight-for-reforms-in-south-sudan/
    Your kingdom is currently on bu

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    • 2 July 06:56, by Rommel

      wang:

      The UPDF is not stationed in Malakal, Bentiu or Nasir. They do not have troops on the ground in these areas. The vast majority of the Nuer have defected from the SPLA and so you shouldn’t try to inflate their role in the armed forces. We didn’t have the assistance of the Ugandans in the 90s and we were still able to penetrate deep into Uror, Akobo, Nyirol, Yuai and Ayod.

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  • 2 July 07:20, by George Bol

    Wang,
    Choose war or peace. We are ready for everything. Don’t believe on false of Nuer fabrications on all websites. We are watching well.We do you run to Ethiopia and UNIMISS camp if you are men. And why do you run away from Juba and in all nuerlands.You talking dying

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  • 2 July 09:07, by Alier De Jok

    Riek Machar should understand that federalism is a word of many colours and definition if he and equatorian want federal system the should put it in writing by telling the public how it will work socially, political and economically than merely talking about it orally on radios and Newspapers.

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    • 2 July 10:07, by Malakal county Simon

      Both regional and the international community, should recognizes the SPLM/IO as the legitimate government because they are representing the interests of South Sudanese than the current government in Juba!!!!

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  • 2 July 12:00, by Jalaby

    Guys,
    Did I ever lie to you before? did I ever tell you something that never happen?
    Ironically,if you want to base the new states on tribalism then how many new states you’re gonna create in the south?!
    I’ll tell you something new this time and please mark my words: the demand in the south will soon jump from "Federalism" to "Self-Determination" for some regions

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    • 2 July 12:06, by Jalaby

      because the south consists of different and odd items, inhomogeneous entities, and invalid for one nation, it does not have the basic requirements to form a nation and then state, absolutely has no identity unfortunately!
      You will soon start to experience the bizarre dancing in the south! Please mark my words!!

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      • 2 July 13:06, by Rommel

        Jalaby:

        Sudan is not a Nation. Sudan is made up of many different nationalities. Darfur was an independent sultanate prior to 1916. Sudan doesn’t have a very good track-record in how it manages its ethnic diversity, and so you’re really in no position to lecture us. Don’t talk if your country has experienced genocide.

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        • 2 July 13:09, by Rommel

          Sudan doesn’t have a common, unifying identity and this is precisely why the Beja, Fur, Nuba, Masalit, zaghawa, Uduk, Jumjum, Ingessana and others have consistently taken up arms against a government hell-bent on imposing the Arab identity on the whole country.

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          • 2 July 13:10, by Rommel

            Your chauvinism resulted in the deaths of a quarter to half a million people when your jihadist ’government’ so saliently took the side of Arab tribes when thy encroached upon and subsequently occupied Jebel Marra massif. Bashir recently said this: "We are an Arab, Muslim nation. Anyone who doesn’t like it can go."

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            • 2 July 13:13, by Rommel

              If you had a unifying culture that didn’t actively discriminate, didn’t forcefully exalt one identity and culture above the rest and didn’t invariably take the side of Arab tribes in tribal disputes, even when it’s clear that they are the aggressors... Why then have the Beja, the non-Arab tribes in Darfur, Kordofan and Blue Nile spoken and taken a stand against Arab chauvinism!?

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      • 2 July 13:37, by wang

        Jalaby
        Rommel, is an old grey hair Dinka man which lives in exile somewhere in Western nations….he used to abuses Mrs. Kiir M7 in late 2011…the guy is well-known of being an a lair and denial…

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        • 2 July 14:19, by Rommel

          wang:

          ROFL! I still have decades [many, many decades] before I get grey hairs. I have never lied. I provide evidence for my claims. You just hate the fact that I dismantle and embarrass all your little friends on this website. You people use to lie with absolute impunity prior to my advent. You use to lie about ’Nuer oil’, until I arrived and disabused you of this delusion. Hate me, I love it.

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          • 2 July 15:13, by Mi diit

            Rommel,
            The fact that some others have started to ignore your poor arguments and refused to respond to your hate messages is what you call “dismantling?” Well, to me you are a mere tribal chauvinist in pretense and also a diehard hater of Salva Kiir and Riek Machar. Your dream is that the Bor people will come back to power. This is your mission that disregards any voice of reason.

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            • 2 July 15:20, by Mi diit

              Look at your poor argument on federalism when you wanted your tiny Dinka sections to create states of their own while at the same time denying the Equatorian tribes with bigger populations from creating their own states as if federalism is about those NOT in harmonies to the disadvantage of others in harmony between themselves. You must be sick!

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              • 2 July 15:38, by Rommel

                Mi diit:

                You are the most indiscernible dolt I’ve ever come across. The fact that I said that Equatoria doesn’t need any more States is actually a credit to the region; they’re not grappling with the consequences of atavistic hatred (s); they haven’t had any violent conflicts and massacres. They seem to handle their diversity very well. It’s a compliment.

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                • 2 July 15:45, by Rommel

                  You are in no position to rail against tribalism. You’re the biggest tribalist here. You wear your new mask well. Where’s the resentful, militant Nuer Nationalist we all know and ’love’? The man that routinely issued threats if a certain tribe didn’t make way for the Nuer and their prophesied, chosen leader? I really must commend you for appearing so innocent.

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                  • 2 July 15:47, by Rommel

                    Your new mantra must be "look like the innocent flower, but be the serpent underneath". I remember when you very much resembled the Jihadist; you were just as fanatical, just as irreverent, just as monomaniacal and would just as quickly issue obscene threats and ’prophecies’ against other tribes. Would the real Mi diit please stand up?

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                    • 2 July 15:48, by Rommel

                      Unlike you, I don’t believe that anyone has been prophesied by a tribal ’prophet’ to lead this country. I don’t believe that this ’prophet’ can curse sections of of other tribes with unseemly physical traits [bad teeth]; and I don’t believe that "It will be the Murle and Bor to reap the ugly sour grape when the dust has settled sometime very near."

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                      • 2 July 15:51, by Rommel

                        This is what you said: "We the Nuer know exactly what the end of this game will be. It will be the Murle and Bor to reap the ugly sour grape when the dust has settled sometime very near." Source: http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article44604

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                        • 2 July 15:58, by Rommel

                          How many times must I tell you that I’m not from Dinka Bor!? I am from Twic-east. We are not a subset of Mading Bor! Twic-east is an independent Dinka section with its own proud principles, traditions, history, dialect, customs and mannerisms. Confusing us with Dinka Bor is akin to confusing the Lou Nuer with the Gawaar.

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                          • 2 July 16:01, by Rommel

                            I cannot speak for the Dinka Bor, but the people of Twic-east and Duk have no intention of grabbing power by force. There are other means of wielding influence. I will not waste my time outlining them to you. You are a slow, terribly incorrigible little twit.

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          • 2 July 15:53, by Jalaby

            Rommel,
            Every body in this planet knows the oil in the south exists in Nuer land!
            If it does exist in Dinka land then how Paulino Matip was protecting it in favor of Khartoum government as you accused Nuer?!
            Please stop making joke of yourself!

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        • 2 July 15:46, by Jalaby

          Wang,
          Rommel is a big liar and only naive people buy his nonsense stories!

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          • 2 July 16:13, by Rommel

            Jalaby:

            I really shouldn’t be indulging you, but I’ll educate you. How many times must I reaffirm to you that South Sudan’s oil is not extracted from the lands of the Nuer!? You actually think that the oil is in Nuer territory, don’t you? LOL! Seeing how oil is the only thing of import to you, don’t you think that you should first find out where the oil is?

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            • 2 July 16:46, by Rommel

              Ask any of the Nuer on this website of the name of the largest oilfield in South Sudan. They’ll tell you [albeit reluctantly] that the largest oilfield is called Paloich. After you’ve done that, please ask them exactly just where the Paloich oilfields are located, and they’ll tell you that the Paloich oilfields are located in Melut county — in Dinka territory.

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              • 2 July 16:50, by Rommel

                The Paloich oilfields alone account for 80% of South Sudan’s oil production. At least 90% of South Sudan’s oil production comes from Dinka lands. The largest and most productive oilfields in Unity State are in Dinka counties. The largest and most productive oilfields in Upper Nile State are also in Dinka territory.

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                • 2 July 16:54, by Rommel

                  The three largest oilfields in Upper Nile State [Paloich, Melut and Adar-Yale] are all in Dinka territory. The Dinka territories of Unity state account for 75% of that State’s oil production. Out of the seven significant [7] oilfields in Unity State, only one [1] is fully within Nuer territory — Tharjiath. Toor, Toma south, Nar, Alhar and Manga are in Dinka counties.

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                  • 2 July 16:59, by Rommel

                    I’ll provide you with a source on the importance of the Paloich oilfields. Like I said before, the Paloich oilfields account for 80% of the country’s oil production. These oilfields are in Melut county — a Dinka county. Source: http://oilpro.com/post/2083/is-south-sudan-s-oil-heartland-finally-safe

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                    • 2 July 17:15, by Rommel

                      Paulino Matip was a Major-General in the SAF and he had 50, 000 troops with him, and if he needed help, the SAF was right on call. Arab militias were also on hand to help. The Nuer are the majority in Unity State. The Dinka of Unity State only have two [2] States out of nine [9]; they were outnumbered and outgunned, and their oilfields were occupied by Paulino Matip.

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  • 2 July 17:05, by Zeki

    Is federalism what make Machar to create the war in the Country?

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