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May 20, 2014 (KHARTOUM) – Sudan’s foreign ministry told legislators on Tuesday that armed Sudanese groups are involved in the South Sudanese conflict, adding that thousands of its nationals were killed after the recapture of Unity state Bentiu last month.

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Injured civilians are treated at the UNMISS base in Bentiu, the capital of South Sudan’s Unity state (Photo: UN/Toby Lanzer)

Reports by UN agencies and independent rights groups say that over two hundred Sudanese were killed in Bentiu by the rebel forces loyal to the former vice-president Riek Machar when by retook the control of the town.

The SPLM-In-Opposition accused the Sudanese rebels particularly Justice and Equality Movement (JEM) of attacking them in Bentiu with the government forces. Also officials in Juba said Sudanese militiamen are fighting besides Machar’s forces.

Briefing the lawmakers about the situation of Sudanese nationals in South Sudan, state minister at the foreign ministry, Kamal Eddin Ismail, said the involvement of Sudanese armed groups in the intra South Sudanese conflict negatively affected the ordinary people who are working there.

Ismail also reiterated the government statement about the use of JEM fighters by the South Sudanese government, saying that their involvement confirms what Khartoum was always saying about their links with Juba.

The UN Mission in South Sudan mentioned in a report released on 8 May the presence of JEM fighters besides the SPLA troops in Bentiu. South Sudanese defence minister Kuol Manyang Juuk strongly denied these allegations.

Regarding the claims of the South Sudanese government about the participation of Sudanese militiamen in the fighting besides the SPLM-In-Opposition, the state minister confirmed that saying it is a group of Misseriya fighters linked to Taban Deng, head of rebel negotiating team and former governor of the Unity state.

The Shahama group was part of the Justice and Equality Movement and the Sudanese Revolutionary Front (SRF) but when the rebellion erupted last December they took the side of the rebels, he said.

“Therefore, what happened in Bentiu appears to be part of a settling of scores between these groups that likely know each other very well,” he stressed.

The former governor of Unity state was accused of supporting the Sudanese rebel groups and harbouring them near Bentiu.

South Sudanese officials say that the presence of Sudanese militiamen in the rebel ranks proves Khartoum support to the rebels.

Observers say the dynamics of the conflict in Sudan’s Two Areas and the five-month conflict in South Sudan revive old civil war relations between different groups from both sides.

“SRF’s struggles against the GoS are partly a product of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement’s (CPA) vague resolutions regarding South Kordofan and Blue Nile, while the South Sudanese civil war reactivates divisions between the SPLA and the GoS-backed South Sudan Defence Forces that largely controlled the Greater Upper Nile region during the second civil war,” says Small Arms Survey group in a recent update on the border dispute between the two country.

Ismail told the legislators that they consider the participation of the Sudanese rebels in the South Sudanese fighting as “a threat to the national security”.

He also said they have unofficial statistics saying that more than 3000 Sudanese were killed, in Bentiu 100 wounded and 1000 missed.

He disclosed they received a report from the Sudanese embassy in Juba saying there are currently 349 Sudanese in Bentiu, adding they prepare to evacuate those who want quit the area.

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  • 21 May 09:42, by Jalaby

    As I said before, the south has no identity and that explains why you see different groups from different countries are participating with both warring parties at the same time which is ridiculous!
    So Taban Deng brought Misseriya to fight with them against Dinka government, Kiir brought JEM and Darfourians plus Nuba mountains and of course Ugandans who in turn brought

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    • 21 May 09:46, by Jalaby

      Tutsi and other mercenaries to fight with them against Nuer rebellion!
      I personally won’t be surprised if Taban Deng convinces more Sudanese tribes like Jalieen or even Danagla & Halfaween far north to come and fight with them Kiir government!
      You know, everything is possible in South Sudan!!!

      Jalaby (Abo Jalabia)

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      • 21 May 10:30, by Big Boy

        Wow Jallaby...
        Regime in Khartoum have admitted that after long denied but is far liar’s that 3000 from their civilian are in bentiu. how did they know while they are not caring to those who are dying with hunger,starvation..

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      • 21 May 11:34, by Rommel

        Jalaby:
        You want to condemn us for lacking an ’identity’!? LOL! What’s your all unifying ’identity’ if I may ask? And why hasn’t it prevented the Darfur tragedy!? Why have you had the worst case of ethnic determined violence in the continent!? Why didn’t your ostensibly shared identity stop Arab nomads from encroaching upon and subsequently occupy Jebel Marra massif in Dar Fur?

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        • 21 May 11:41, by Rommel

          Why did your genocidal government so clearly evince its preference for Arabs over non-Arabs in these conflicts? Oh and by the way have you forgotten the role played by Egyptian Islamists during the war!? Don’t take my word for it, here’s an article on the matter: http://www.aberfoylesecurity.com/?p=533

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          • 21 May 11:46, by Rommel

            It seems that you want to condemn Juba for what Khartoum has done in the past. You brought in Egyptians, Somalis and others during your Jihadic war, so I suggest that you have a good, hard look at yourself before you subject us to your nauseating brand of moralisation.

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            • 21 May 13:06, by Jalaby

              Rommel,
              First, are you serious in comparing what happened in Darfour and what is happening now of a full war in the south?
              how many Darfour’s population and how many of them got affected by the war and how many their numbers out of Sudan total population number? in contrast, how many the south’s population and how many of them got affected

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              • 21 May 13:11, by Jalaby

                by the current war and how many persons in the south will face the harsh starvation if there is no ceasefire (which will be the case)? Answer: all the south population, is there any way to compare that with Darfour problem or even S Kordofan?! wake up man!
                Second, you always refer to Darfour I can assure you Darfour problem on its way for solution and will soon be

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                • 21 May 13:18, by Jalaby

                  settled down and it’s no secrete that you guys in the south were the main supporters for the Darfourians gangsters not because you love them but in fact you hate them because they fought against you with Arab during all the south-north war but you support them because you want to dismember Sudan,you believe you can’t stand up unless the north is weaken and fallen down

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                  • 21 May 13:27, by Jalaby

                    As expected after separation, you guys are fighting and brutally killing each others with merciless and you became busy of your own problems and can’t support Sudan rebels as before and forced to lift your hand off, this problem on its way for solution and you better think about other argument than Darfour that you can talk about!
                    Fix your home first if you could!

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                    • 21 May 13:34, by Jalaby

                      Tell me Mr Rommel, after UN accused the south government of hiring JEM and other Sudanese rebels,are you still denying that Juba doesn’t use northern people and other mercenaries against the south rebel? are you still denying that?
                      You Dinka people should stop barging about your outnumbers in the south compare to others because it turns out to be useless! LOL

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                      • 21 May 14:00, by Rommel

                        Jalaby:
                        I don’t compare what happened in Darfur to what’s currently taking place in South Sudan. There’s quite simply no grounds for comparison. You lost at least a quarter of a million people in Darfur, and we have purportedly lost ten thousand people — 1/30th of what you have lost in the only genocide since Rwanda.

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                        • 21 May 14:06, by Rommel

                          A million South Sudanese are currently internally displaced. You seem to think that this is so much worse than what we’ve seen in Darfur. Would you care to guess just how many Darfurians are internally displaced?

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                          • 21 May 14:08, by Rommel

                            Allow me to put you out of your misery. I know thinking can exhaust the insipid. 2.7 million Darfurians are currently internally displaced. I suspect that you’re as innumerate as you are illiterate, ignorant and obnoxious, but surely even you can understand that 2.7 million represents a larger number than 1 million.

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                            • 21 May 14:13, by Rommel

                              How many Darfurians do you *think* [I’m being terribly kind] are currently living as refugees outside Sudan’s border? Would you like to guess? Come on, give it the good old college try. There are currently 264,000 Darfurians in Chad, and thousands more in the Central African Republic.

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                              • 21 May 14:17, by Rommel

                                264,000 also represents a larger number than 238,261 — the number of South Sudanese living as refugees outside the country. According to a source that you provided me in the past: "In 2013, U.N. agencies said they aimed to supply 3.4 million people in Darfur – nearly half the population – with aid." How in the world is that so much better that you would feel the need to gloat!?

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                                • 21 May 14:20, by Rommel

                                  In virtually every parameter examined, Darfur is worse. I sense a slow wit, that can’t grasp irony. You’re just spinning in circles after yourself, as neurotic retards and diseased animals are prone to. You should have your own Oprah episode, where the audience tries to figure out just where your teachers and parents went so terribly wrong.

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                                  • 21 May 14:31, by Rommel

                                    I don’t accept anything without substantive evidence, and until recently no evidence was provided. I accept the evidence put forward by the UN, and to tell you the truth, this reinforces my belief that Salva Kiir must go. Pray tell, when are you going to accept what the UN reported in Darfur!? Do you accept that at least a quarter of a million people died in Darfur?

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                                    • 21 May 14:33, by Rommel

                                      The Centre for Research on the Epidemiology of Disasters (CRED), a research unit with links to the World Health Organisation estimates that 298 271 died in Darfur over a 17-month period, from September 2003 to January 2005. The UN and the World Health Organization estimated that 10, 000 people were dying each and every month when Darfur was its worst.

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                                      • 21 May 14:52, by Rommel

                                        Salva’s incompetence and short-sightedness is to blame for necessitating the need for the Ugandans in this conflict. Salva Kiir didn’t have enough troops. He was quite simply outnumbered. The people who actually fought the war against Khartoum largely went home in 2006 — the same year that Matip came back with around 50, 000 troops.

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                                        • 21 May 14:59, by Rommel

                                          The Ugandans have thus far only provided and deployed three [3] to four [4] battalions in South Sudan, interspersed in Juba, Bor and Western and Eastern Equatoria. The Ugandans gave Kiir the necessary respite to restructure the army and mobilize more fighters. The ’government’ has only mobilized twenty thousand soldiers since this war began.

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                                          • 21 May 15:07, by Rommel

                                            It seems that my people will only take this war seriously if or when Bahr el Ghazal is attacked. What the Ugandans have done for us is nothing compared to what you did for the likes of Riek, Matip, Peter Gadet, Gordon Kong and many others.

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                                            • 21 May 19:15, by Majongdit

                                              Rommel,
                                              You are the man.
                                              Tell them well. Teach them the whole bunch of pretenders who for years have never had a country.

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                                            • 21 May 19:18, by Majongdit

                                              Rommel,
                                              You are the man.
                                              Tell them well. Teach them the whole bunch of pretenders who for years have never had a country.

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                                  • 21 May 14:41, by Northern Sudanese

                                    Mr Rommel
                                    good afternoon and let me help you. I got a few questions and some details for you that might be helpful. first of all Darfur is a 11 year old conflict. the UN has been using 300,000 people dead since 2005 till today , clear indication that it is a lie. many organisations including AU, arab league and islamic world deny the genocide. the government of Sudan which is far more realistic..

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                                    • 21 May 14:47, by Northern Sudanese

                                      10,000. but because I am so kind I will compare Darfur region to your country using the 300,000 figure. first of all what is the population of Sudan? it is about 34 million people. if we say that 300,00 people out of 34 million people died in Darfur over the 11 years conflict in Darfur is about 0.88% of the population died over 11 years. now the figure of 10,000 dead in your country is ...

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                                      • 21 May 14:51, by Northern Sudanese

                                        outdated as it was used since January. now since that period you had lost control of 3 out of 10 states already and the fighting etc. but lets look at it this way, south sudan is facing the largest famine in the history of Africa. between 4-7 million south sudanese are facing starvation. if fighting doesn’t stop before August, and likely wouldn’t , then there will be a famine.

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                                        • 21 May 14:55, by Northern Sudanese

                                          so lets say 3 million out of 7.3 million people would actually die due to starvation by the end of the year, then we could say that out of a population of 10 million, 30% of the population died due to starvation in south sudan within a year of conflict compared to 0.88% of Sudan’s population in Darfur over the 11 years of conflict.

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                                          • 21 May 15:00, by Northern Sudanese

                                            now these are all predictions made by the UN in case the planting season is missed which likely will be missed. 2 agreements in 4 months and still no ceasefire. comparing the IDP’s in Sudan of 2.7 million to 0.8 million in south sudan is pretty small. but again, it presents something like 7% of Sudan’s population displaced over 11 years of war. while in south sudan it means 8% of the population...

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                                            • 21 May 15:07, by Northern Sudanese

                                              already displaced within 5 months of war. now in accordance with the latest report that came out yesterday, it is expected that 1.5 million south sudanese would likely be IDP’s by the end of the year not just thanks to conflict but also because of lack of food. that would mean about 15% of south sudans population internally displaced within a year of conflict

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                                              • 21 May 15:14, by Northern Sudanese

                                                now when it comes to the number of refugees, you always come across the sudanese refugees in darfur and say that they are 260,000 and appear to be so happy that they are just 30,000 more than the south sudan refugees lol. what is 260,000 out of 34 million people? it means 0.7% of sudanese became refugees. however what is 230,000 out of 10 million? it means 2.3% of south sudan’s population became

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                                                • 21 May 15:20, by Northern Sudanese

                                                  within a year of conflict compared to just 0.7% of Sudan’s population in 11 years of conflict. now that 2.3% of south sudanese becoming refugees is not final, it is just the beginning. from the same report, by the end of this year there would be 850,000 south sudan refugees scattered in neighboring countries which would mean that about 8.5% of south sudanese would be refugees by the end of the

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                                                  • 21 May 15:28, by Northern Sudanese

                                                    so the overall figure is like this :-
                                                    260,000 sudanese refugees (0.7% population in 11 years) vs 850,000 south sudanese (8.5% within a year of conflict)
                                                    300,000 died in 11 years (0.88% of the population in 11 years) vs between 3-7 million likely dead within a year (am kind and i will say 3 = 30% of south sudan population)

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                                                    • 21 May 15:34, by Northern Sudanese

                                                      the only thing which would likely be worse are the number of IDP’s in Sudan. but many of these are already returning home as Darfur is slowly progressing towards peace and rebels are willing to negotiate.
                                                      2.7 million IDP’s in Sudan (7% of the population displaced in 11 years) vs 1.5 million IDP’s in South Sudan (15% of south sudan’s population by the end of the year)

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                                    • 21 May 14:48, by Northern Sudanese

                                      10,000. but because I am so kind I will compare Darfur region to your country using the 300,000 figure. first of all what is the population of Sudan? it is about 34 million people. if we say that 300,00 people out of 34 million people died in Darfur over the 11 years conflict in Darfur is about 0.88% of the population died over 11 years. now the figure of 10,000 dead in your country is ...

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                                      • 21 May 15:10, by Rommel

                                        Northern Sudanese:
                                        So it’s pretty much all just a conspiracy against Sudan? The UN is in on the conspiracy as are some of the world’s most preeminent universities as well as numerous research units like the Centre for Research on the Epidemiology of Disasters (CRED). Is that what you’re saying?

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                                        • 21 May 15:18, by Rommel

                                          Your first argument is nothing short of ridiculous. All wars have periods of intensity. For Darfur, that period was between 2003 to 2007. The fact that you put forward your government’s entirely self-serving and veritably untenable figure of 10, 000, goes to show just how incredibly deluded you are. There is nothing ’realistic’ about it.

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                                          • 21 May 15:23, by Rommel

                                            Is your saving grace the fact that you have a much larger population than South Sudan!? LOL! You keep talking about how we lost three [3] States, ignoring the fact that we’ve since regained control of those three States and have taken control of the rebel stronghold. You have yet to take Kauda after three [3] years of fighting.

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                                            • 21 May 15:32, by Rommel

                                              I have yet to come across any source that says that 3 million people are surely going to die by the end of the year. A famine doesn’t quite work that way; a famine affecting millions usually claims the lives of hundreds of thousands. Don’t mistaken your wet dream for reality.

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                                              • 21 May 15:35, by Rommel

                                                According to institutions of international significance, including the world’s quintessential political institution — the UN... your government engaged in a brutal campaign of ethnic determined violence that claimed at least a quarter of a million innocent lives...

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                                                • 21 May 15:37, by Rommel

                                                  ..But you quite predictably deny all of this with a dose of antisemitism that bemoans and derides your international status of being known supporters of terrorism and being a country that has engaged in State sanctioned ethnic cleansing campaigns as being merely a derivative of a grand Jewish conspiracy.

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                                                  • 21 May 15:38, by Rommel

                                                    I hope you realise that even the Centre for Research on the Epidemiology of Disasters (CRED), a research unit with links to the World Health Organisation estimates that 298 271 died in Darfur over a 17-month period, from September 2003 to January 2005. The UN and the World Health Organization estimated that 10, 000 people were dying each and every month when Darfur was its worst.

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                                                    • 21 May 15:44, by Northern Sudanese

                                                      awww hunny , its funny how you do the impossible to try by all means to say that Darfur is worse than what is happening today in your country. whats the point of comparing a quarter of a million dead in 11 years to 3-7 million dead within a year?
                                                      open your eyes, the UN’s fugures are comspiracy no denial but because I am so kind I am still using ’’their overall’’ figures in this argument.

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                                                      • 21 May 15:48, by Northern Sudanese

                                                        sorry its ’’conspiracy’’ not ’’comspiracy’’ lol I am only human and humans make mistakes specially when it comes to spelling.
                                                        back to the subject, you keep referring to 10,000 dead per month. how about comparing that to at least 3 million likely deaths, the worst famine in Africa if fighting doesn’t stop in you country before the rainy season which is very likely to not stop by that time?

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                                              • 21 May 15:39, by Northern Sudanese

                                                It is a known global fact that the IQ of a south sudanese is among the lowest in the world but I would allow it. the UN puts the expected number at 7.3 million people if fighting doesn’t stop but I personally put the figure at 3 million based on what I predict would happen. you see how kind I am? :)

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                                          • 21 May 15:23, by Northern Sudanese

                                            so the from what I understand from you is that the war in Darfur ended in 2007? on the same time saying that I provide unrealistic numbers and figures?
                                            lol, denial at its best lol Darfur is ongoing until today.
                                            read the comments and use your brains

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                                            • 21 May 15:45, by Rommel

                                              Northern Sudanese:
                                              Where did I say that the war in Darfur ended in 2007!? I said that the war was at its most intense from 2003 to 2007. The war is very much still ongoing, with new displacements [as of this year] reaching close to 200, 000. Read my posts carefully. http://reliefweb.int/report/sudan/darfur-new-displacement-first-quarter-2014-situation-report-no-1-24-march-2014

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                                              • 21 May 15:53, by Northern Sudanese

                                                oh sorry for misunderstanding, I though by 17 months you meant the war ended in 2007. ok, still. 300,000 out of a population of 34 million people (0.88%) vs likely 3 million dead by the end of the year due to the largest famine in Africa by the end of the year (about 30% of south sudan’s population). ever wondered why the UN belives you should be put under its trusteeship and shouldn’t be alone?

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                                              • 21 May 15:55, by Rommel

                                                3 million people are not going to surely die by the end of this year. Famines do not work that way. Millions will be affected, but the mortality figures are usually in the hundreds of thousands. It seems that you want to forget the fact that the very UN that you rail against fed 4 million Sudanese in Darfur. Now imagine what would have happened if the UN wasn’t there!?

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                                                • 21 May 16:07, by Rommel

                                                  The UN will attend to equal numbers to feed. If the two sides do nothing to avert the looming humanitarian disaster, then hundreds of thousands may die. Every source that I’ve across says that millions will starve, which is not quite the same thing as saying that millions will surely die. Starvation by its very definition entails a prolonged period of going without food.

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                                                  • 21 May 16:22, by Rommel

                                                    Starvation and ’dead’ are not virtual synonyms. Stop treating them as such. Did millions die when 4 million people in Darfur needed food relief!? Food relief that the UN provided. We are better of now than we were under Khartoum. Khartoum created an artificial famine that claimed 250, 000 lives in 1988-9 and a further 100, 000 in 1998. http://www.globalpolitics.net/essays/Tom_Rhodes.pdf

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                                                    • 21 May 18:18, by Northern Sudanese

                                                      In darfur there was stability , the UN reached the people/ in south sudan there is no stability, you already lost 2-3 states within months. lol its funny how you blame us, you were the once who kept on fighting its like machar today not stopping the war to allow food support. 2 million south sudanese died thanks to the war you ignited. we only killed SPLA members, the rest died due to starvation

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                                                      • 21 May 18:21, by Northern Sudanese

                                                        and diseases. we never shot an innocent south sudanese, we only shot SPLA members which I highly doubt reach the million or even halve in numbers. today south sudan is going to witness the largest famine in Africa, you lost 2-3 states , 15% of your people would be displaced, 10% refugees , the UN wants you under trusteeship and you still believe your better off? lol good luck dude

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                                                        • 21 May 18:27, by Northern Sudanese

                                                          if the most solid famine scenario occurs that 4 million will starve, then that put the figure of those that would die at least 1.5 million. the world already knows that on your own you are far worse than under Northern rule even if we treated you like shit, its better than the way you treat each other now. that is why the UN wants you under its trusteeship and become your government.

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                                                  • 21 May 18:15, by Northern Sudanese

                                                    starvation could mean both. a simple google search says ’’suffering or death caused by lack of food.’’. in terms of south sudan, it would definitely be death because south sudna is a very poor country. if UN doens’t reach the people then they will die. looking at whats happening to day. it is highly unlikely that there will be stability and even if there is it would be too late. famine is famine

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                                                • 21 May 18:10, by Northern Sudanese

                                                  The UN estimates between 4-7.3 south sudanese will die by the end of the year due to starvation if fighting doesn’t stop to allow planting to take place before the rainy season i.e. august. lol in 2012-2013 over 4 million south sudanese were food insecure but they got UN support because there was no mass scale fighting and there was relative stability.would there be a south sudan without a UN? lol

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                                                  • 21 May 18:30, by Rommel

                                                    Northern Sudanese:
                                                    You’ve significantly disfigured the UN’s assessment on the situation. The UN has not said that ’between 4 to 7.3 million South Sudanese will be dead by years end. It has said that 6 million ’will either have been displaced, be starving or be dead.’ That’s terrible, but it doesn’t exactly comport with your attempt at distortion, does it?

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                                                    • 21 May 18:35, by Rommel

                                                      There was ’stability’ in Darfur!? LOL! Have you redefined this word for your own ends? The UN and the World Health Organization estimated that 10, 000 people were dying each and every month when Darfur was its worst. Does that sound like ’stability’ to you!?

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                                                      • 21 May 18:44, by Rommel

                                                        The UN and a plethora of Human rights organizations have extensively documented Khartoum’s human rights violations, and so your pathetic little attempt absolving Khartoum of its many crimes makes you sound incredibly deluded and just as crazy as people wearing tin-foil on their heads.

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                                                        • 21 May 18:50, by Rommel

                                                          How many times must I reaffirm to you that we’ve since regained control of the three [3] States that you keep on mentioning like a broken record? Stressing the importance of dynamics that have since changed just makes you look retarded.

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                                                          • 21 May 18:58, by Rommel

                                                            The war was ignited when Gaafar Nimeiry rescinded on his commitments to the Addis Ababa peace agreement. You tried to impose Sharia! Or have you forgotten that!? The actions which caused the most widespread discontent before 1983 — and which ultimately contributed to the outbreak of war were: Continued political interference by Khartoum in the internal politics of the Southern region...

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                                                            • 21 May 19:04, by Rommel

                                                              .. the failure to implement the referendums on the border regions (as stipulated in the Agreement). In addition to this there was a growing anxiety over developments in national politics which indicated that the central government was becoming ever more entrenched in a purely Arab and Muslim national identity.

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                                                              • 21 May 19:13, by Rommel

                                                                Your attempts at deception are crude, far too transparent and far too easy to debunk. We lost millions under Khartoum, and no one believes your pathetic accounts on the matter. There are no credible people, countries, organisations and institutions that believe that the international terror supporting, radical Islamist, ethnic cleansing Ignaz Nazis genocidaires are good people.

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                                                                • 21 May 19:20, by Rommel

                                                                  There are no authoritative sources that claim that anywhere near to a million people will surely die in South Sudan in the coming rainy season. No actor of international significance has claimed that we would be better off under the aegis of terrorists. Being sentenced to death for apostasy [in the 21st Century] is not something that anyone would look forward to.

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                                                                  • 21 May 19:36, by Rommel

                                                                    It’s funny how you talk of our need of the UN, when if the UN hadn’t intervened in Darfur the way it did, perhaps millions of Darfurians would have died. In case you have forgotten, the UN fed 4 million people in Darfur.

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                                                                    • 21 May 20:50, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                      over 4.7 million south sudanese needed UN food aid in 2012-2013 because they were food insecure. imagine if the UN didn’t reach them then that would have meant about 40% of your people dead.
                                                                      http://www.irinnews.org/report/94908/south-sudan-worsening-food-crisis
                                                                      however then there was stability in the south, today there is no stability whatsoever and lost 3 states to the rebels already lol

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                                                                  • 21 May 20:47, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                    there are no reports that people will die by august, what the reports say is that if the planting season is missed before the rainy season (august) then from then till the end of the year millions will starve and then counting of the dead bodies would start. they would likely be in millions. if that is not worse than living shit under our rule then I don’t know what that is.

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                                                                • 21 May 20:45, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                  why are you speaking about Inqaz? I don’t even like those dudes... but I can asssure that the AU , Islamic world , arab world , Russia , China , Iran etc and other organizations support Bashir’s case. even your own government, but its technically only the west that hates NCP. 2 million S sudanese dead thanks to your own fault of chosing bullets instead of ink

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                                                            • 21 May 20:41, by Northern Sudanese

                                                              Nimery only changed the constitution of the nation in 1983 which could have been negotiated in peace. in terms of who ignited the conflict it was south sudanese. you shot the first bullet and which afterwards lead to famine and destruction in south sudan. was it really impossible for you to just negotiate like normal people. was it worth it in your view? biggest famine ever is upcoming in ss .....

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                                                          • 21 May 20:38, by Northern Sudanese

                                                            hahahaha regained controlled of the states? and am supposed to believe you? Malakal and Bentiu , the capitals of the most vital states in south sudan in terms of both oil and food supply are controlled by Machar + the third state (forgot its name). the white army is already on track on invading Juba, the capital of south sudan

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                                                        • 21 May 20:34, by Northern Sudanese

                                                          lol so human rights abuses in sudan have become your backbone? lol yesterday I heard of tons of human rights violations in south sudan. if you want to bring it in terms of numbers, you know the numbers which I would present so lets ignore human rights violations, they won’t save your points

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                                                          • 21 May 20:44, by Rommel

                                                            Northern Sudanese:
                                                            You’re a bit behind the news. Malakal was recaptured by the army a little over two months ago. Bentiu was retaken from the rebels ten [10] days ago. The army also captured Riek’s stronghold [Nasser] on the other side of Upper Nile State. All but two counties in Upper Nile are under government control.

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                                                            • 21 May 20:50, by Rommel

                                                              Imposing Sharia, changing the constitution in contravention of the peace agreement, cancelling the agreed upon Referendums on Abyei and Chali, and attempting to redraw the border could have all been negotiated in peace!? You’re more delusional than I thought. Would you trust anyone that rescinded on his commitments to an agreement that you would again negotiate with him!? LOL!

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                                                              • 21 May 20:52, by Rommel

                                                                In 1980, President Nimeiri instructed his Attorney General Hassan el Turabi to redraw Sudan’s map for administrative purposes. The Attorney General executed this task and presented a “new” map to the Parliament that year. The new map carved away oil areas such as Heglig and Bentiu from the South. (Integration and Fragmentation of the Sudan: An African Renaissance, February 21, 2011)

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                                                                • 21 May 20:54, by Rommel

                                                                  Nimeiri’s overconfidence and the regime’s intensifying economic difficulties led him to seek direct control over the newly discovered oil resources in the south… In 1980, he announced plans to redraw the borders between southern and northern provinces.

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                                                                  • 21 May 20:57, by Rommel

                                                                    When this proposal was blocked by the regional government, he conveniently created a new province [al-Wihda, or "Unity" State] and removed the oil fields altogether from southern administrative jurisdiction. (Civil War and Failed Efforts for Peace in the Sudan - Taisier Ali and Robert O. Matthews)

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                                                                    • 21 May 21:08, by Rommel

                                                                      At the height of the Darfur conflict, you had millions starving and a great deal of insecurity. In the early stages 4.7 million people were being fed by the UN., unless you wish to maintain that you’re were worst off in 2013 than you were from 2003 to 2007, when 10, 000 were dying each and every month. The UN will attend to South Sudan the same way it attended to Darfur.

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                                                                      • 21 May 21:17, by Rommel

                                                                        Human rights violations in Sudan are without comparison, so if you’ve got something that could compare with the deaths of least a quarter of a million people in Darfur at the hands of the Ignaz Nazis, then please present it. It’s not a game. There are no points. No government in Africa compares with the human rights violations of the Ignaz.

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                                                                        • 21 May 21:22, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                          quarter of a million predominantly died due to illness and famine and not human rights abuses. if you want comparison then how about the biggest famine in Africa by the end of the year in your country due to a conflict that originally started with human rights abuses specifically against nuer and the vp who also happened to be nuer of a coup :)
                                                                          likely 3 million death compared to a quarter hmmmm

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                                                                      • 21 May 21:25, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                        ok now you are confucing me.
                                                                        4.7 million were fed in SOUTH SUDAN in 2012-2013 by the UN. I gave you the source. but they were fed because it was before the rainy season and there was stability. today there is no stability and you lost 3 states to the rebels. Darfur overall was 300,000 deaths. compare that to 4-7.3 million that may die of starvation by the end of the year in south sudan.

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                                                                  • 21 May 21:04, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                    in the 1980’s there was no oil flowing on the first place. even if there was it was no where near export status and was very limited. even that could have been negotiated but no, you choose the bullet talk and brought 20 years of conflict and 2 million death among your own people. and what for? a nation that would likely witness the biggest famine in the history of africa???

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                                                                    • 21 May 21:25, by Rommel

                                                                      Northern Sudanese:
                                                                      The oil wasn’t the issue, you idiot. You annexed peoples ancestral lands! What did you expect. And that wasn’t the first time that you annexed Southern territories. You annexed the Kafia Kingi enclave and Hofrat en Nahas from Bahr el Ghazal and gave it to Darfur in 1960.

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                                                                      • 21 May 21:28, by Rommel

                                                                        The Kafia Kingi enclave and Hofat en Nahas were veritably within the borders of southern Sudan from the days of the Condominium up until they were annexed to Darfur in 1960 by Ibrahim Abboud. Your government still refuses to return these areas even though we signed an agreement on this matter, so you’re exactly the most trustworthy people.

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                                                                        • 21 May 21:29, by Rommel

                                                                          The CPA prescribed 1956 as the specific date from which we would adjudicate territorial holdings between us. This date [as prescribed by the CPA] is inviolate > meaning it is not be violated. Why haven’t you returned the Kafia Kingi enclave per the requirements of the CPA, if you truly believed that everything could be negotiated!?

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                                                                          • 21 May 21:31, by Rommel

                                                                            The Kafia Kingi enclave was part of Bahr al-Ghazal province when Sudan gained independence in 1956. In 1960 it was transferred to Darfur, which had become a province of Sudan in 1916. (The Kafia Kingi Enclave: People, Politics and History in the North-south Boundary Zone of Western Sudan – Edward Thomas)

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                                                                          • 21 May 21:33, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                            I personally don’t know the full details of the agreements which you people sign. but for everything there must be a reason. one of the reason as for kafia kingi is that it is predominantly composed of Darfuri herders who are loyal to the north + why conducting a referendum in Abyei without the northerners participating? these are examples of agreements that you cancelled

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                                                                      • 21 May 21:28, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                        then why do you keep mentioning oil,oil and oil as if its the main issue you idiot! hofrat alnahas and kafia kingi (i thought they were the same) are predominantly composed of Darfuri herders and they have always been loyal to the north.

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                                                                        • 21 May 21:41, by Rommel

                                                                          Northern Sudanese:
                                                                          The only time that I mentioned oil was when I was citing the work of a historian. The Kafia Kingi enclave has never been settled by the Fur, the Masalit, Zaghawa or the various Baggara tribes. It’s never been part of the Dar of any of these tribes. The people that live in the Kafia Kingi enclave are the same people that live in Raga county, in Western Bahr el Ghazal.

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                                                                          • 21 May 21:47, by Rommel

                                                                            You don’t know the details of any agreement. You’re entirely ignorant, and yet you want to argue!? The people of the Kafia Kingi enclave are not Darfurians, they are the very same people that reside in Raga county. Even if they were your people, you signed an agreement, you’re suppose to abide by it. But this concept seems alien to you.

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                                                                            • 21 May 21:51, by Rommel

                                                                              On the issue of Abyei, we submitted ourselves to the Permanent Court Of Arbitration in 2009. The PCA’s mandate according the PCA was "to define (i.e. delimit) on map the boundaries of the area of the nine Ngok Dinka chiefdoms transferred to Kordofan in 1905, based on the submissions of the Parties."

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                                                                              • 21 May 21:53, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                                as far as I remember that same court proved that Abyei belonged to the North. but we still agreed to hold a referendum in which you refused to include Northerners and therefor we cancelled it. in any case dinka made a referendum on their own something which even your own government did not recognize.

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                                                                                • 21 May 21:58, by Rommel

                                                                                  Northern Sudanese:
                                                                                  You’re retarded. Abyei was transferred to Korfofan in 1905 from Bahr el Ghazal, but by the terms of the CPA, the people of Abye were suppose to have a Referendum on the matter. The Misseriya are not people of Abyei. Their traditional lands are Muglad and Babanusa.

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                                                                                  • 21 May 22:10, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                                    Rommel , you are retarded. Abyei belonged to the North since 1956 or even earlier than that. we just agreed on a referendum to please you people but since you got greedy and want to deny northerners from voting we cancelled the referendum to an unknown date

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                                                                              • 21 May 21:54, by Rommel

                                                                                The mandate of the PCA was to determine the area of the nine *Ngok chiefdoms* transferred to Kordofan as they were in 1905. The PCA determined that its delimitation of the Abyei area is correspondent with the area of the nine Ngok chiefdoms transferred to Kordofan in 1905.

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                                                                                • 21 May 22:00, by Rommel

                                                                                  Anyone with a morsel of honesty, comprehension, reasoning and discernment perfectly understands that the land that was defined and delimited by the PCA is land that belongs solely and entirely to the Ngok.

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                                                                                  • 21 May 22:01, by Rommel

                                                                                    The South has tried to compromise. We have even offered compromises on the issue of Misseriya residency — a collective who are merely transhumant and don’t even live in Abyei. We *previously* offered that anybody or populations who can trace residency in Abyei to 1905 can vote = rejected by the NCP. The offer was then changed to anyone or populations tracing residency to 1956 = rejected.

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                                                                                    • 21 May 22:02, by Rommel

                                                                                      The offer was again changed to anyone who was resident in 2005 = rejected. Then residency at the time of the Permanent Court of Arbitration ruling [2009] = rejected. Finally, anyone resident just a year after the Abyei Referendum Act was passed [2010] = rejected. The NCP is insisting that the 80,000 Misseriya who were moved in from 2011-13 must be permitted to vote.

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                                                                                      • 21 May 22:07, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                                        EVERY MISSEIREYAH who has an interest in Abyei or moves into Abyei partly throughout the year must have a vote. other than that then there could not be a referendum

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                                                                            • 21 May 21:51, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                              I argye with the obvious, the people of that region are Darfurians and loyal to the North. that is reason why we have disagreements and historical maps clearly show that the enclave is north of the border.

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                                                                              • 21 May 22:08, by Rommel

                                                                                Northern Sudanese:
                                                                                The people that live there are not Darfurians. The Kafia enclave has been part of South Sudan since the Condominium — well over a hundred years ago. Historical maps show the Kafia Kingi enclave within South Sudan. Even Google map shows it within South Sudan. We have government gazettes proving that it was annexed to Darfur in 1960.

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                                                                          • 21 May 21:49, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                            your comments were clearly about oil and claimed that it was the main reason as to why nimery included regions such as Heglig to the North. I have seen a video on Ashorooq about the enclave and the people on those video looked a lot like the Fur and claimed loyalty to the North.

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                                                                            • 21 May 22:13, by Rommel

                                                                              Northern Sudanese:
                                                                              How many times must I tell you that I was citing a historian!? Colonial maps show Kafia Kingi within our territories, and the 1956 border [the border that we agreed would be our border] shows it within South Sudan. There are between only 5 thousand to 15 thousand people living in the enclave and none of them include the traditional tribes of Darfur.

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                                                                              • 21 May 22:20, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                                why citing historian that talks about oil which you used to prove a point??? oil shouldn’t be mentioned on the first place unless you wanted to prove something which you only recently denied. I have seen many 1956 maps and they all place kafia kingi on the northern part. many people in kafia kingi are darfurians i.e. mostly darfurians....
                                                                                may I ask a personal question, how old are you Rommel?

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                                                                                • 21 May 23:03, by Rommel

                                                                                  Northern Sudanese:
                                                                                  I cited those historians to demonstrate the fact that Gaafar Nimeiry annexed our territories. Should I not use the material because the sources mention that these territories happen to have oil? Why don’t you show us the many 1956 maps that apparently show Kafia Kingi within North Sudan even though Kafia Kingi was annexed to Darfur in 1960.

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                                                              • 21 May 21:01, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                everything in this world could be negotiated in peace including the borders of Israel and Palestine. but you peopel chose the bullets and brought death crisis and famine upon yourselves. you barely gave negotiations a chance and ended up losing 2 million of your people. you were born violent and the only thing that united you was your hate against the north, now you turned against each other

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                                                                • 21 May 22:17, by Rommel

                                                                  Northern Sudanese:
                                                                  Ah, everything can be negotiate, even though Arab countries declared war on Israel just a day after it declared independence. That wasn’t such a good example, you dunce. You can’t annex peoples ancestral lands and impose your religious laws on them and think there will be peace.

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                                                            • 21 May 20:55, by Northern Sudanese

                                                              oh dear, the government tried to take Bentiu but they got their asses kicked within hours. In terms of Malakal, as far as I remember Machar was there in March on a visit to his forces. in terms of nasser I don’t know much about that place, but rebels still control those regions effectively

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                                                              • 21 May 22:28, by Rommel

                                                                Northern Sudanese:
                                                                The government launched an offensive to take Bentiu on the 5th of this month and it failed. It then launched a successful operation on the 12th of this month. The rebels admit that they lost Bentiu recently. Here’s a source: http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article51014

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                                                                • 21 May 22:35, by Rommel

                                                                  I have given you far too much credit. You’re clearly retarded. Here are the updated facts on the current military situation. The rebels were in charge of Malakal from February 21 to March 19. The government has been in control ever since. Here’s a source on the matter. http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article50348

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                                                                  • 21 May 22:41, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                    watch your words you fucked up bastard. I am till now speaking to you in a respectful way without insulting you and I don’t believe you want to start trading insults with me it would do you no good.
                                                                    the rebels said ’’Yes, our forces have withdrawn from Malakal for tactical reasons. We will, however, retake the town soon. Our resistance forces are only a few kilometres outside Malakal’’

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                                                                    • 21 May 22:44, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                      so they are still pretty much in control of the region. they would take Malakal again.
                                                                      look at it this way, if rebels managed to take 3 states within months, what would prevent them from taking Juba??? if kiir didn’t call for ugandans then the white army would have crushed Juba a long time ago. its a matter of time before they take Juba

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                                                                    • 21 May 22:52, by Rommel

                                                                      Northern Sudanese:
                                                                      Oh, have I angered you, dunce? The rebels lost Malakal a little over two months ago. Tell you what, why don’t you get a news headline showing the rebels in control of Malakal after they were flushed out on March 19. Can you do that?

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                                                                      • 21 May 23:01, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                        why would I be angry over shit that happens in your country? the fact remains that rebels managed to control 3 states and would march further into Juba. losing control of 3 states to rebels... damn....

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                                                                        • 21 May 23:13, by Rommel

                                                                          Northern Sudanese:
                                                                          Ad nauseum fallacy -> repeating claims as if repetition were proof. You are simply attempting to foster a lie, by repetition. The reason why this is a flaw in reasoning is that the validity or truth of an idea has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with how often the idea is repeated. The rebels are no longer in control of these three States.

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                                                                          • 21 May 23:18, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                            that they lost a city doesn’t mean they lost the state. they would easily retake the city. they still control wide regions of the country and some oil fields. don’t party because you managed to retake a state capital which shouldn’t be controlled by rebels in any case. you lost 3 within months, they would take it again and you clearly violated a peace deal thats why they withdrew you cheaters

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                                                                            • 21 May 23:41, by Rommel

                                                                              Northern Sudanese:
                                                                              You don’t even know anything about your own country’s geography so I doubt you know anything about where the oilfields are located. The rebels have not been able to take control of any of the oilfields in Upper Nile State, and they’ve been trying for months.

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                                                                • 21 May 22:36, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                  Your source says ’’SPLA says ceasefire deal used as pretext to launch attacks on troops’’.
                                                                  how does that support your claim that SPLA recaptured Bentiu or even rebels admitting losing Bnetiu???
                                                                  rebels only admitted losing Bentiu after the first offence, then they said we lost it but will retake it within hours and they did. since then the government never tried to take Bentiu again.

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                                                                  • 21 May 22:46, by Rommel

                                                                    Northern Sudanese.
                                                                    The very source that you claimed to have read, says this: However, rebels claim the government retook Unity state capital Bentiu on Monday in violation of the ceasefire deal. You really should start reading. You don’t have to beat around the bush; if you are reading-challenged, simply say so. I’ll dumb it down for you, and see if that works...

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                                                                    • 21 May 22:58, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                      so now your small brains are feeling superior because I missed a few lines because of not being bothered to read the crap properly? lol anyway, there is no official confirmation that rebels lost control of Bentiu and not even from the government so how does that work for you? :)

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                                                                      • 21 May 23:10, by Rommel

                                                                        Northern Sudanese:
                                                                        How does that work for me? It works perfectly for me, you retard. The rebel admission that they lost Bentiu on May 12 isn’t good enough for you!? LOL! Fine. Alright, here’s the government’s position on it. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/05/12/south-sudan-at-peace-1-day-after-battles-violated-new-cease-fire-military-says/

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                                                                        • 21 May 23:15, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                          ok you managed to retake you ’’state capital’’ from the rebels, that is expected anyway but the rebels will still retake it. no doubt about that, they are only getting stronger and stronger and its only the fist few months of the conflict. they already took 3 states before so they would easily do it again.

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                                                                          • 21 May 23:30, by Rommel

                                                                            Northern Sudanese:
                                                                            The rebels are not getting stronger, they’re getting weaker. They lost their base early this month. That doesn’t sound as though they’re getting stronger.

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                                                                            • 21 May 23:35, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                              losing a base increases their willingness to take back theirs. it also develops their motivation and willingness to crush Juba. SPLA on the other hand is getting weaker and weaker not just on the field but also financially. how woudl they pay ugandan troops if Juba went bankrupt?

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                                                                              • 21 May 23:48, by Rommel

                                                                                Northern Sudanese:
                                                                                In your inverted, twisted little world, the fact that the rebels lost their base is actually a plus for them. The fact that they lost five other areas in that week must also be a plus. LOL!

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                                                            • 21 May 20:58, by Northern Sudanese
                                                      • 21 May 20:32, by Northern Sudanese

                                                        about stability in Darfur. I was referring to the time in which you were saying that 4 million Darfurians needed UN aid last year. use your brains for god’s sake! it bviously wasn’t 100% stable but all the states were in full government control which allowed aid supply and prevent famines, something that isn’t available in your country which lost 3 states to the rebels

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                                                        • 21 May 22:43, by Rommel

                                                          Northern Sudanese:
                                                          You’re a complete dunce, you’re in no position to ask others to use their brains when you’ve clearly got very little of your own. Millions were being fed in 2003 to 2007, when 10, 000 people were dying each and every month. There was virtually no security of any kind.

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                                                          • 21 May 22:47, by Northern Sudanese

                                                            no ,you idiot do need to use your brains. we never lost any state to rebels while you alread lost 3 states to rebels. see the difference in terms of stability between Darfur and South Sudan? million were fed due to stability in Darfur and south sudan in 2012/2013
                                                            but today no stability in south and 3-7.3 may die due to starvation by end of this year in your country or did you forget that too? lol

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                                                            • 21 May 22:50, by Northern Sudanese

                                                              like I said earlier you people only bring destruction to yourselves for opting bullets instead of ink. you lost 2 million people because you refused to negotiate and brought famine upon yourselves. now you are bringing the worst famine in africa upon yourselves which may claim more millions of lives. lost control of 3 states within months and still the counting continues

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                                                            • 21 May 22:57, by Rommel

                                                              Northern Sudanese:
                                                              We lost those three [3] States in the initial stages of the rebellion, but we’ve since regained control of these three States. Millions were fed due to ’stability’!? LOL! When you were losing 10, 000 a month!? You were stable then, were you? We have taken over the rebel stronghold, you have yet to take Kauda.

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                                                              • 21 May 23:06, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                LOL
                                                                when you were speaking about Darfur weren’t you speaking about last year? they were fed because there was stability and all states were and are still in full control including all major cities. unlike you who still don’t control tons of towns and still haven’t gained both Bentiu and Malakal. Kauda is not a state capital buddy, its more like a village.

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                                                                • 21 May 23:18, by Rommel

                                                                  Northern Sudanese:
                                                                  The UN was feeding 4.7 million in 2003 to 2007, when 10, 000 were dying each month, when there was no security and when the war was at its most intense. The UN also fed 4 milion people last year. Have I simplified it enough for you? You’re clearly reading challenged.

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                                                              • 21 May 23:09, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                stop speaking about 10,000 , overall 300,000 died over 11 years (0.88% of the population) compared to the largest famine in africa which would very likely take place in your country and kill millions by the end of the year (about 30% of your population) :)

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                                                                • 21 May 23:11, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                  but oh I forgot, you are the same people who lost 2 million by bringing famine upon yourselves by choosing bullets instead of ink lol. what for? a country that would witness the largest famine in Africa? a country that lost 3 states to rebels? what else rommel? lol

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                                                                • 21 May 23:24, by Rommel

                                                                  Northern Sudanese:
                                                                  Why should I stop talking about the 10, 000 that were dying each month? Why should I not talk about the quarter of a million that died in Darfur? We will not lose millions of people by the end of this year, your wet dream notwithstanding. The UN should be able to feed them, just like they fed 4.7 million Darfurians in 2003 to 2007, and 4 million in 2013.

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                                                                  • 21 May 23:27, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                    wet dreams? lol I wonder how you would spell that by the end of the year. when the UN fed people in Darfur we were in full control of the states even in 2003-22007 we never lost a state. you lost 3 states which cost you time and the rainy season is upcoming and there is no guarantee that people would be fed.
                                                                    you will lose millions of people by the end of this year, mark my words :)

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                                                                    • 21 May 23:29, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                      you people are so dumb that you lost 2 million lives before due to stupidity which lead to diseases and famine among your own people, what makes you think that there won;t be 7.3 million starving be the end of the year as estimated by the UN???

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                                                                      • 21 May 23:32, by Northern Sudanese

                                                                        that is why the UN wants you under its trusteeship and not independent because it believes that millions would die in south sudan if it was left alone.

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                                                                    • 21 May 23:36, by Rommel

                                                                      Northern Sudanese:
                                                                      If you were in control, why did a quarter to half a million people die? You were in ’full control’, right? You were in control of the Janjaweed that you unleashed. You were in control of the factors that resulted in the deaths of more than a quarter of a million people.

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                                                    • 21 May 20:30, by Northern Sudanese

                                                      ’’The UN has already warned that 7.3 million people could starve by August unless the fighting stops.’’
                                                      http://www.worldbulletin.net/news/136723/south-sudan-president-warns-of-worst-famine-ever

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                      • 21 May 14:05, by Kalo

                        Jalaby idiot,it is non of your business if Kiir and SRF were forming allies,you were also forming allies with Machar why did n,t shout up your rotten mouth and continue supporting Machar and we shall see who will cry,after all Machar and Taban were in North before what did they do,the came and join SPLM/N again.
                        Wad-Nuba

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  • 21 May 10:52, by Ayuiu Makuac Lam

    Kamal Eddin, is lying, government in Juba is not using Sudanese rebels.
    And that is true to be accepted by Sudanese foreign ministry that Sudanese army force are fighting along rebel led by Riek Machar. Already, south Sudan government received a reports, rebels of Riek is getting army supply from Sudan, China and Iran and problem about that.

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    • 21 May 19:54, by Bravo Nuer

      Ayiu you my cousin Dinka people will never be forgiven by Jesus Christ for unrighteousness. who is the unrighteous person? unrighteous is a liar, drunkard,warmonger, dictator and lives a sinful lifestyle. who is a righteous is an honest, sober, peaceful, social and walks at a level of holiness and integrity.and the former category is matching you guys in the sight of the whole world.all SRF allied

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      • 21 May 20:14, by Bravo Nuer

        rebels of JEM, SLA Minawi faction, SLA Abdelwahab faction and SPLA North Blue Nile faction are fighting for Dinka tribal govt from January onwards only a Dinka can deny this protruding elephant and can shamelessly try to hide it under his fingernail but this attitude of lying habit is an ingredient contributing now to unusually rapid waning of kiir ’s notoriously lying regime era in RSS history.

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        • 21 May 20:19, by Rommel

          Bravo Nuer:
          How long did you people deny that you were fighting side by side with Khartoum!? How long did Riek maintain that he wasn’t getting weapons, supplies, logistical support and food relief from Khartoum!? Why does it matter if we ally with the Nuba, JEM and the people of Blue Nile when you ally yourselves with Arab nomads and Khartoum!?

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          • 21 May 20:43, by Bravo Nuer

            yes Rommel reality or truth is what matter most or the freedom of the self as you put it that is very bold move and I am a deontologist like Emmanuel Kant who should not defend what is not logically reasonable. I can’t be lying that enemies of those notorious rebels of Sudan would not side with Riek, never, it is a must they must aid Riek because they know the end of Riek in SS the ball be rolled

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            • 21 May 21:00, by Bravo Nuer

              into the Northern region in order to oust Bashir out of power which is the only headache obstructing king Museveni to assume his utopian wish of African kingship and you know Omer is not a new dog to be taught with new tricks like kiir who relies upon M7 wisdom. I put it yesterday that, the invitation of foreign troops by kiir heralds his ugly exit like Gadhafi since SS became a regional war zone.

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        • 21 May 20:29, by Bravo Nuer

          what many may not know is how they come into the war and whether he was kiir or who else lured all those notorious rebels to join Dinka BEG genocidal war against Nuer resistance. those notorious Sudanese rebels were getting aids of various kinds from Museveni as M7 was the architect of their rebellions. then he was M7 who force ridden or coerced them all to help kiir in Upper Nile and Unity states

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