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March 18, 2014 (JUBA) - South Sudanese defence minister, Kuol Manyang Juuk left for the Sudanese capital, Khartoum on Tuesday with what he described as a "special message" from President Salva Kiir to his Sudanese counterpart, Omer Al-Bashir.

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South Sudan’s defence minister, Kuol Manyang Juuk, is welcomed by Sudan’s state defence minister, Yahya Mohamed Khair, at Khartoum airport on 18 March 2014 (SUNA)

Speaking to reporters at Juba airport before his departure, Juuk said he would hold talks with Sudanese officials, including the president and defence minister, Abdel-Rehim Mohamed Hussein mainly focusing on security issues and rebel presence along the two country’s borders.

"I am carrying with me special message from our president Salva Kiir Mayardit to his brother, president Omer Al-Bashir. My visit will focus on two issues: the border demarcation between the two countries and the presence of the rebels along the border areas," said Juuk.

"This is very important because rebels loyal to Riek Machar and Taban Deng Gai expect support from some neighbouring countries. We want to tell the Sudanese authorities not to help them,” he added.

The South Sudanese defence minister, however, downplayed possibilities of Sudan supporting the rebels, asserting that stability serves the interests of both countries.

Juuk was welcomed at Khartoum Airport by the Sudanese state minister for defence, Yahya Mohamed Khair, who told reporters that the visit comes in the framework of continued consultations towards the development of bilateral relations, hoping that South Sudan regains peace and stability.

The visit comes in the wake of continuous reports in the Sudanese press alleging the participation of the Justice and Equality Movement (JEM) rebels in the fight against South Sudan rebels.

Last Tuesday, different Sudanese dailies reported that JEM recruits Sudanese from North and South Kordofan to fight in its ranks against the SPLM-In-Opposition in coordination with the South Sudanese authorities adding that the leader of the Sudanese rebel group, Gibril Ibrahim, closely works with military officials in the new nation.

Both the Juba government and the Darfur rebel group denied such accusations, which were also circulated by the South Sudanese rebels.

Violence erupted in the South Sudanese capital, Juba in mid-December last year killing at least 10,000 and displacing nearly a million. President Kiir accused his former deputy Machar of instigating the violence, which the latter blatantly dismissed.

Before the start of the South Sudanese conflict, Juba and Khartoum agreed to normalise relations and to implement a cooperation agreement signed in 24 September 2012. The two countries have, however, failed to deploy a joint force to monitor the border because of their difference over the baseline for the demilitarized security zone called zero line.

President Bashir has maintained support for his South Sudanese counterpart since his visit to Juba on 6 January. However, the two countries denied they agreed on signing a security agreement to deploy a joint forces to protect South Sudan’s oil fields.

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  • 19 March 06:40, by Ayuiu Makuac Lam

    He when with letter from president Kiir to Bashir about the recent clashes between Ngok Dinka and Misseriyia which more than 77 people dead.

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    • 19 March 06:53, by Malakal county Simon

      The shaky relation between Juba and Khartoum, is already been damaged since Juba is constantly supporting the Sudanese rebel groups.... Am sure Koul Manyang is just wasting public resources, because he will return home with empty promise.....

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      • 19 March 07:16, by Mi diit

        Incompetent Kiir and his officials are heartless foolish diplomats. They support JEM and SPLA-N to damage Khartoum, create more problems in Abyei and now they ran to Khartoum begging it to forget their evildoings. When was the last time Juba became truthful to Khartoum? They ran to Uganda for support yet they don’t expect rebels to seek support from other countries. What a desperate contradiction!

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        • 19 March 07:58, by michael coma

          Mii dit
          Khartuom had supported you Nuers since 90s and nothing you have achieved, just wastage of its resources.To supports Nuer’s militias better supports Murle’s militias as they are better than Nuers in term of greediness.Nuers were supported by Bashir in 90s when SPLA was rebel but did nothing.

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        • 19 March 08:39, by Rommel

          Mi diit:
          Oh, isn’t this sweet... you genuinely seem to care for the well-being of your masters. You do realise that reports from International Crisis Group have comprehensively documented Khartoum’s support for the LRA in their destabilizing activities in South Sudan, all the way back in 2006 — years before there was an SPLM-N!? They started this unfortunate state of affairs.

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          • 19 March 08:48, by Rommel

            Your masters assassinated the Paramount Chief of the Ngok and are assisting the Misseriya in their efforts to occupy the northern part of Abyei, and have rejected each and every peaceful attempt at resolving this dispute by rejecting the PCA ruling and the most recent AU proposal on the matter.

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            • 19 March 08:53, by Rommel

              Who wants war here!? Who has assassinated the Paramount Chief? Who’s to blame? Is it the side that immediately accepted the *final and binding* ruling on Abyei by the PCA? Or is it the side that has displayed and demonstrated absolute disregard for each and every peaceful attempt at resolving this!?

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              • 19 March 11:08, by Jalaby

                Rommel,
                I’ll tell you who assassinated Dinka Ngok chief, Dinka Ngok politicians leaders assassinated him by sending him to Misseryia areas in Abyei and intentionally aggravated and provoked Misseryia to kill him and after that trading with his blood and pointing finger to Misseryia and Sudan and cry with crocodile tears to AU,UN,UNSC,USA,etc

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                • 19 March 11:15, by Jalaby

                  Misseryia said it from day one that "Dinka Ngok chief is not our enemy and we have no use of him", they announced their sorrowful because of his assassination.
                  BTW, where is coward Deng Alor, he was one of Dinka Ngok leader who was involving on the conspiracy of Dinka Ngok chief assassination, he fled to USA right? he said he is concern about his life and he might be

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                  • 19 March 11:22, by Jalaby

                    killed if he stays in the south and he couldn’t believe it when Mr. Kiir set him free from the jail and he immediately ran to USA!! what type of leader is that? struggler should pay his life cheaply when it comes to what he believes is right and willing to die for its cause but coward Deng Alor fled the south, the land that he used to brag falsely that he fought for

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                    • 19 March 11:30, by Jalaby

                      till got liberated from Arab/Jalaba!!
                      Coward Deng Alor fled the south, fled Abyei and abandoned Dinka Ngok people and left them stranded in the middle and escaped for his life .. what type of leader is that? He said he is "Nuba"!! LOLlaughing

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                      • 19 March 12:14, by Mi diit

                        Rommel,
                        You are a foolish person who can write anything and argue senselessly. If you care about the Ngok Dinka, then why is Kuol Manyang begging Khartoum for relationship while Ngok Dinka land is not brought back to South Sudan? Who rejected the referendum by Ngok Dinka? Was it not Salva Kiir? So, if you talk of a master, Khartoum is the master to Juba, not to Nuer as we speak. Stop wasting time

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                        • 19 March 14:49, by Rommel

                          Mi diit:
                          Why are you asking such elementary questions to which answers have already been provided? You do realise that when politicians speak of ’relationships’ that it’s in reference to interests? From an economic and security point of view, it’s quite obvious that it’s in Khartoum’s interests to not support the rebels.

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                      • 19 March 13:11, by Rommel

                        Jalaby:
                        You’re quite determined to subject us to pointless rant after pointless rant, aren’t you? You are a pure blowhard - someone who makes very loud noises, to compensate for the fact that they have nothing to say. Your vapid and stale lectures do not convince anyone but the mentally sick, the mentally challenged, the irredeemably ignorant and the compulsively deceitful — people like you.

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                        • 19 March 13:20, by Rommel

                          There are no ’Misseriya areas’ in Abyei. The Misseriya are not people of Abyei! The Misseriya are transhumant; their traditional lands and permanent settlements are in Muglad and Babanusa; the Misseriya are merely seasonal migrants to Abyei, sojourning in Abyei [as guests] for a derisory amount of time — four [3-4] months out of the year at the very most.

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        • 19 March 09:38, by Dr Manago

          Mingdit,
          You are mad son of prositute,you will die while talking like a co-wife all the time.this time around our relationship with Khartoum is very strong and you will never change any thing no matter how much you push your ass to talk.

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    • 19 March 15:10, by Mayom County Boy

      this is not the solution that may solve south sudan crisis ,anless peace is accepteble by both sides.

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  • 19 March 06:41, by Jalaby

    To Defense Minister,
    I guess you’re in Khartoum because you guys are smelling something bad, aren’t you?
    Well, if you want Khartoum not to Support Machar and Nuer then you’re kindly required to comply to all of our demands immediately and without any foxy game, here are our demands:
    1. Expel out all Dafourian gangsters and mercenaries from

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    • 19 March 06:48, by Jalaby

      the south and stop using them in your internal conflict and giving them a safe haven to attack Sudan and run and hide in the south.
      2. Expel out SPLA-N and stop offering them support and safe haven and using them in your internal war against Nuer, those guys are not southerners.
      3. Pull out your troop from Abyei and acknowledge Abyei as a Sudanese territory.

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      • 19 March 06:55, by Jalaby

        Last but not least, cheap oil is due now, current oil transfer fees are no longer valid after this war took place in the south and also due to international political environmental change where Russia swallowed Crimea now!

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        • 19 March 09:04, by Rommel

          Jalaby:
          LOL! You really are delusional. It’s clear that a foreign power (s) has been supporting the rebels since December when they were in control of Gadiang. You have been destabilizing South Sudan long before the SPLM-N or the SRF came into being, and so we’ll stop only when you stop. Abyei will never be surrendered, by anyone, under any circumstances.

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      • 19 March 07:07, by Chol A.

        Southern Sudan have nothing new since you have been fighting a long side Nuer militias against Spla force. What we know it to destabilise South Sudanese people by support Nuer thug rebels as you Khartoum did in Nothern Uganda but you will not help them to win War at all. Bashir use to visit us is he used to smell bad from your rebel?

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    • 19 March 09:51, by Dr Manago

      Jalaba,
      you gay (anus fuckers)this time i have accepted to committe sins by marry you, you will soon be my wife even though it is not allowed in christainity,i will do it with the purpose of enjoying your smooth anus hahahahahah...and fucking you to death.

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    • 19 March 13:14, by mathem jech amer

      South Sudan bought The F-16 "Fighting Falcon" is a compact, multi-role jet and Dassault Rafale - it is a multi-role, twin-engined delta wing aircraft capable of mounting air defence, ground attack, and reconnaissance missions. They are bought purposely to get rid of rebels & their mercenaries such as Eritrean.

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  • 19 March 07:03, by Bentiu son

    Dinka Government is Juba think that they can fool,cheat, brainwash,blindfolded n blackmailed Sudan in particular and world at large.What self cheating? Sudan knows that Dinka led Government supports Sudan rebels JEM,SRF n SPLA-N and now they are fighting Dr Machar’s SPLA in Opposition forces along side them as friendly forces(Gaat el Sidiga).Now SPLA n Uganda Army are fighting Messiria Arabs Abyei

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    • 19 March 07:17, by Chol A.

      @Bantiu Nyagat, Khartoum knew that Nuer are one of the worse tribes known of backflip within 64 South Sudan tribes. How many time you the same tribes being paid as militia by Bashir him? If you think Bashir can help to win this war than good luck and we are waiting you. What I know you should all being teach how to mop your asses for certain period of time and your Botox will be mark in case.

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    • 19 March 07:22, by Bentiu son

      I meant in Juba above.Sudanese people must understand that Dinka led Government in Juba are nor trustworthy anymore. killer Kuol Manyang visit is mainly to cold Sudan Government while their SPLA and Ugandan Army UPDF are invading Abyei by force.Sudan people should wake up and understand that what is taking place in South Sudan now will reach their end soon than later.M7 military intervention must

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  • 19 March 07:35, by tootke’bai-ngo

    JALABA,
    PLEASE YOU ARE FULL OF NONESENSES,S.SUDAN IS NOT THAT SCREW TO TAKE YOUR CHEAP BARGAIN. YOU BETTER TAKE YOUR SHITS SOME WHERE ELSE, HONOURABLE KUOL M.JUUK IS ONLY IN KHORTOUM TO WARN YOUR CRIMINAL REGIME NOT TO INVADE ABYEI.
    IF YOUR STUPID THUGS(SAF) ATTACK ABYEIENS THIS TIME ROUND, IN GOD WILL THAT WILL MARK THE LIBERATION OF WHOLE SUDAN FROM YR LIKE, WE LL UNIT & SUPPORT SPLA-N OPENLY.

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    • 19 March 08:24, by Jalaby

      tootke’bai-ngo,
      What? liberating Sudan? before talking about liberating Sudan liberate yourself first from Nuer, it’s just a matter of time for them to re-capture Bor again and then march toward Juba, Ugandan troops you hired are helpless now!
      Stop using Darfourian gangsters and SPLA-N as mercenaries in your internal war!

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      • 19 March 09:11, by Rommel

        Jalaby:
        Your little wet dreams will stay suspended in imagination, child. Question: When will you recapture Kauda? When will Bashir pray in Kauda. It’s been years since your genocidal regime promised to retake this SPLM-N stronghold. What’s taking you so long?

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        • 19 March 11:44, by Jalaby

          Rommel,
          How many times actually Bashir prayed in Torit after liberated it from SPLA and Torit is way far from Khartoum and close to the border with Kenya during the war? SAF captured it in 1992 during the famous "Saif Al Obor" operation and then liberated it again from SPLA hands when SPLA accompanied with Ugandan army and mercenaries

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          • 19 March 11:50, by Jalaby

            recaptured in 2002 while falsely pretending to be negotiating with Khartoum government to reach for a peace agreement, it took from SAF less than a month & half to liberate it and clear off the whole areas from the rebels, they had been killed so badly in "Khor Enjleez" where they put their heavy weapons and troops over there as most important defense line!

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            • 19 March 11:54, by Jalaby

              So my friend, if Bashir was able to pray far south inside Torit city close to the Kenyan border during the middle of the harsh war, would it be difficult for him to pray inside Kauda city in S Kordofan?!
              Wake up my friend!!

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              • 19 March 12:40, by Rommel

                Jalaby:
                Oh, and you think you were able to do all of that because of your own strength!? LOL! Your self-congratulatory rant regarding the execrable condition of the SPLA in the early 1990’s, woefully ignores the fact that the SPLA had split into two different factions just a year earlier, and that Mengistu [our main supplier] had just been overthrown.

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                • 19 March 12:45, by Rommel

                  The only point during the war in which the SPLA was pushed to the border with Uganda was in 1991-2, immediately following the split within the movement and the concurrent lost of the SPLA’s most important source of military supplies and logistics with the collapse of Mengistu’s regime.

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                  • 19 March 13:03, by Rommel

                    It took 3-4 years for the SPLA to show any semblance of a recovery; they then undertook an intense campaign to recapture the gains that were eviscerated by the split — and they succeeded in capturing and controlling the vast majority of South Sudan, with only a handful of the provincial towns being under the aegis of the SAF.

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                    • 19 March 13:08, by Rommel

                      The SAF could only get supplies by air into Juba, as every other possible land route was under the control of the SPLA. Juba was one of the few major ’cities’ that hadn’t fallen at least once. If it hadn’t been for people like Matip, you wouldn’t have been able to maintain control over our oil fields. Stop deluding yourself.

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      • 19 March 13:00, by mathem jech amer

        Jalaby
        Arabs were there 1000 years ago and they failed to defeat South even when souterners were fighting using spears. You are not able to defeat rebels fight you leave alone fighting S.Sudan.You were defeated in Panthou before withdrawal of SPLA.In case S.Sudan joins rebels & collectively fight you guys,your next place is Saudia.

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  • 19 March 07:41, by Mading Makuac

    Jalaby,
    That is conditional relationship that you are talking about.

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    • 19 March 08:34, by Gangura

      Hahahaha wonders will never end on this South Sudan, what will Kual Manyag say? somebody like Kual when I will be apresident of this country he will be in bush looking afte his cows stupid.
      I even do not which school did attend apart from certificate in welding what ashame on Kirr Cabinet.

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  • 19 March 09:16, by Rommel

    The amount of money the idiots in Juba receive from oil remittance in a single month -or two at the very most- could actually be used to purchase 30-40 comprehensively upgraded Su-25s. Aircraft that would then be used to to surveil Greater Upper Nile, interdict rebel supplies and liquidate their military command.

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  • 19 March 09:21, by Rommel

    If we were to purchase two seater versions of the Su-25, retrofitted with stabilized payloads like the Advanced Multi-sensor Payload System, radars like the Gabbiano T200 and INS/GPS guidance kits like the SMKB/FPG-82... We could essentially then perform operations usually reserved for unmanned aerial vehicles.

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    • 19 March 09:23, by Rommel

      An upgraded, retrofitted Su-25 would allow us to detect foreign aircraft dropping off weapons, ammunition and supplies to rebel forces over 400km away. We would then destroy those supplies with bombs guided by the Brazilian SMKB/FPG-82 — 75-80 km away, 33,000 ft in the sky — far outside the threat envelop of autocannons and even MANPADs.

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      • 19 March 09:25, by Rommel

        If we had UAVs like China’s Wing Loong, we would be able to fly them from Juba to Longochuk, on the border with Sudan; no supplies would reach the rebels, from anywhere. Su-25s, retrofitted with the add-on systems that I mentioned could probably execute the same tasks as some of these UAVs, albeit with significantly shorter deployment ranges.

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        • 19 March 09:27, by Rommel

          The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting - Sun Tzu, The Art Of War. If your opponent is denied weapons, ammunition and supplies... He quite simply cannot fight you. Instead of taking these measures, those brain dead hicks in Juba fly to Khartoum and Asmara, begging them to not arm and supply the rebels, despite the fact that this is precisely what they’ve been doing.

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          • 19 March 11:54, by Darkangel

            HA HA AHHAHAHHA HAHA whos having the wet dream now ? Whos going to fly your imaginary SU 25’s ? Your famous cows ?

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            • 19 March 12:26, by Rommel

              Darkangel:
              Hmmm, who flies combat aircraft when you don’t yet have the trained pilots? What are they called... Ah, yes — mercenaries. The same mercenaries that have flown your aircraft for decades. The very same mercenaries that had one of their own shot down over Omdurman in 2008. Do you remember that? Source: http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article27350

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              • 19 March 12:33, by Rommel

                We could have these aircraft flown by ex-Russian, Polish, Belorussian and even those highly trained Israeli pilots. You’re just a desperate, defeated dunce, playing dumb because you have no other recourse.

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                • 19 March 13:21, by Rommel

                  The online World Tribune website quoted an unidentified Russian source in Moscow as saying that “there were significant problems in the effectiveness of Sudanese MIG pilots. With the new planes came Russian training and advisers, who also served as pilots”. Source: http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article27350

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