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March 10, 2014 (JUBA) – The spokesperson for South Sudan President Salva Kiir on Monday dismissed as untrue reports that the latter had formed a high level committee to reconcile rival factions within the country’s ruling party (SPLM).

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President Salva Kiir announcing that SPLA forces had retaken Bor from Peter Gatdet troops, JUBA, on 24 DEC 2013, (Photo AFPTV Soundbite)

“There is nothing like that. I spoke to the president about this development and he told me clearly that he did not form any committee involving Taban Deng Gai and Deng Alor because these people are not under his authority,” Ateny Wek Ateny exclusively told Sudan Tribune.

The official, however, stressed that the South Sudanese leader was strongly committed towards ending the ongoing conflict through dialogue and reconciliation.

It emerged last week that President Kiir had instituted an eight-member committee tasked with making arrangements for an upcoming meeting expected to bring together rival groups within the leadership of the ruling party.

A number of party officials also confirmed the formation of this reconciliation body.

Daniel Awet Akot, a senior member of the country’s ruling party said the current leadership was ready for any internal reconciliation, provided it does not undermine the legibility and the supremacy of the existing SPLM structures and institutions.

“It has always been the interest of the SPLM to ensure that this country enjoys peace and tranquility by enhancing harmony through dialogue among different ethnic groups. It is our hope that each must try to understand the other,” said Akot.

“Our people should understand that we need to be and live together as one people in one country by building a common future. South Sudan is bigger than any tribe,” he added.

Akot, a former deputy speaker of the country’s national assembly, further said the past civil wars fought when the country was still part of Sudan sought to bring about peace and stability and that it was embarrassing to see the new nation engaged in another “senseless” conflict.

“The wars which our people fought to get this country were about democracy, freedom, social justice, spirituality, life and potential of each individual citizen. These are common values of the national progress,” he said, but urged people to embrace unity and love one another.

The senior party member also claimed that the country’s ongoing conflict showed that some countries, which he declined to name, were allegedly South Sudan’s legitimately elected government.

“The highly prejudiced behavior by some countries to give negative attention to the December 15 failed coup attempt by Riek Machar and his group made these rebels more intransigent,” he further told Sudan Tribune.

Akot said democracy would have lost its meaning long time ago if the need for its achievement was done through violence and killing of innocent people, especially women and children.

“It is unfortunate that democracy has been misunderstood in this country. There are people who claim to be advocates of democracy but fail to live by the principles of democracy,” he stressed.

“If efforts to achieve democracy are carried out through violence action and agony. I think democracy would have lost its meaning long ago”.

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  • 11 March 07:04, by Malakal county Simon

    Kiir did indeed formed the SPLM internal reconcile team with both Taban and Deng A lor, but he was drunk that’s time thatwhy denied it today.... Anyway no dailoug, because time for dailoug is gone sir....

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    • 11 March 07:11, by Malakal county Simon

      You have chosen military solution, so let’s solves it through militarily and see who win....

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      • 11 March 07:30, by Majongdit

        Malakal County Simon,
        We have seized your UN weapons and we have made sure we cut all your supplies. Your songs of war will soon stop.
        Now those under military training in Barh el Ghazal alone is 40,000. This a part from thousands being trained now in Juba, Torit with 6000, Yambio with 5000, Yei and some other places.
        Once these groups finally are out of training, they’ll go war fields. sh!

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        • 11 March 07:36, by Mi diit

          Majongdit,
          Don’t worry. We don’t believe in numbers. We believe in courage to fight and fight skillfully. 40,000 can be defeated by 10,000. And this is why you needed foreign soldiers like Ugandans, Rwandans, Kenyans, etc, to add to that number because you are not confident with your courage to fight the Nuer. Note that you are fighting the Nuer. It is not easy my friend. You will sweat and die!

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          • 11 March 07:42, by Mi diit

            The professional journalist Mr. James Gatdet Dak clearly told you in his media statement that Kiir had no legality and authority to appoint those of Taban Deng Gai and now you have listened to him after making that terrible mistake. Why don’t you just admit the mistake instead of further denying it. You are not to be trusted, fools!

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            • 11 March 08:28, by michael coma

              Which is which now? I have fed up of these words,deny,condmn and propaganda in this world.

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            • 11 March 12:01, by Rommel

              Mi diit:
              Salva Kiir required, solicited and received Uganda’s military assistance primarily because it committed the folly of integrating tens of thousands of Khartoum’s former oilfield guard dogs into the SPLA — to the extent that they outnumbered the men that actually fought against Khartoum during the war. Rwandans and Kenyans are currently not involved in any combat operations.

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              • 11 March 12:05, by Rommel

                The people who actually fought the war against Khartoum -not you- largely went home in 2006, and on the one (1) year anniversary of this evanescent peace they graciously permitted the return of Khartoum’s wretched weasels, snakes and dogs. Snakes and dogs that quite unfortunately became the majority in our armed forces in 2006, even though they were Khartoum’s witless lackeys during the war.

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                • 11 March 12:09, by Rommel

                  Our men are returning to their army; and when new battalions and divisions have been sufficiently conditioned, trained and armed... We will have no need for the Ugandans. Where was our apparent lack of confidence when we routed you from our lands and penetrated deep into Uror, Akobo, Nyirol, Yuai and Ayod in the counterattacks of 1992-3-4!?

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                  • 11 March 12:14, by Rommel

                    Temper your arrogance, child. Your head is in the clouds. I think this is precisely the same feeling of ecstasy that must of have captured the imagination of Riek’s forces in 1991 when they took control of Panyangor and Bor, only to have this Pyrrhic victory brutally and unceremoniously overturned...

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                    • 11 March 12:15, by Rommel

                      .. When mostly Dinka soldiers, under the command of Kuol Manyang defeated Riek’s troops in a large and unforgettable battle at Gut-Makur, a village just outside Mongalla. Riek’s forces were then defeated at Wuor Baar; our forces then entered Dinka territory at Gem, defeated all opposing forces in Nuer territory at Kuac Deng...

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                      • 11 March 12:17, by Rommel

                        .. With Riek’s forces experiencing defeat after being pursued, hounded and cut down as far as Uror, Akobo, Nyirol, Yuai and Ayod... so by all means, boast, thump your chest, jump up and down and so forth — but know that we have experienced and endured infinitely more challenging tasks and circumstances before.

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                        • 11 March 12:18, by Rommel

                          Are you really going to pretend that your people did not establish and nurture a military alliance with Khartoum during the war!? Do you recall the decades in which you defended oilfields on behalf of the Arab oligarchy... like dogs!?

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                          • 11 March 12:20, by Rommel

                            Do you recall how you were so desperately reliant upon their weapons, ammunition, supplies, logistical support and food relief? Do you recall the military engagements that you executed in tandem with Khartoum against us!? The Ugandans have thus far only provided and deployed three [3] to four [4] battalions in South Sudan...

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                            • 11 March 12:21, by Rommel

                              .. That’s a drop in the ocean when compared with what Khartoum did for you. The Dinka had to contend with an enemy [your erstwhile ally], that was well furnished with a palette of destructive weaponry and over 100, 000 men, accompanied by bombers, jets, and helicopter gunships...

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                              • 11 March 12:24, by Rommel

                                .. And tens of thousands of aligned militiamen — the PDF and the Murahaleen, and tens of thousands of Khartoum compliant Nuer militiamen. I don’t want foreign intervention of any kind, but if you’re going to condemn people and bespatter them with smug charges of cowardice... know that we too can dredge up your documented history of forming alliances with Khartoum.

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                                • 11 March 12:25, by Rommel

                                  You formed military alliances with Khartoum during the war; an alliance that targeted and absolutely devastated the Dinka!? Why is it that you people feel no shame for this!? Ah, I get it, the Nuer are entitled to establish military alliances with Khartoum... but you want to condemn the Dinka for establishing a military alliance with a State that actually didn’t murder millions of Southerners!

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                                  • 11 March 12:34, by Rommel

                                    The Arabs brought entire divisions to bear against the Dinka. The Arabs fought beside you. The Arabs fed you. The Arabs gave you weapons, ammunition and logistical support. Why are you people wholly unwilling to discuss your previous alliance with Khartoum!? You people are hypocrites!

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                                    • 11 March 12:37, by Rommel

                                      When Khartoum’s aircraft bombed the Dinka for thirteen [13] years following your defection, operating in tandem with your militias on the ground... Was that not cowardice!? Well, wasn’t it!? Or do you suppose that you are entitled to an exemption from the demands of a moral code that you don’t actually prescribe to!?

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                                      • 11 March 12:39, by Rommel

                                        Allow me to cite for you the work of a historian:
                                        Throughout the fighting, not one war casualty was admitted to the Nasir hospital. Riek’s troops sat idle as Khartoum pushed back the Dinka. The results of Riek’’s sell-out to Khartoum could not have been more glaring. The Dinka suffered mightily. (Me Against My Brother: At War in Somalia, Sudan and Rwanda, Scott Peterson)

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                                        • 11 March 13:40, by Rommel

                                          And don’t talk of the small handful of Nuer that stayed after 1991. There’s virtually not a single Dinka section that didn’t provide more troops and more martyrs than the entire Nuer tribe following your defection in 1991. I very much doubt that you provided so much as a single battalion after 1991.

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                                          • 11 March 14:05, by Rommel

                                            Your contribution after 1991 is so small, so comical and so UN-noteworthy that it’s almost undignified to speak of it. I suggest you keep your mouth shut on the matter. You were nowhere to be seen when we captured Achwa, Magwi, Yei, Kapoeta, Torit, Kurmuk, Kor, Yabu, Zanziber, Gogrial, Rumbek, Tonj, Aweil and many others.

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          • 11 March 15:54, by Hardlinner

            Mi diit , where were your courageous nuer rebels during liberation struggle?. I know of one thing that make nuer fight like maniacs, that food. Where there is food ready for loot , nuer fight ferociously to get it of die trying. Main driving force for nuer white army was purely based on looting. Their primitive king/riek told them that if they capture juba, whatever they find would belong to them.

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            • 12 March 05:42, by Mi diit

              Rommel and Hardliner,
              How did the Nuer conquer your lands from your grandfathers for centuries? Was it not because you couldn’t afford to fight the Nuer head-on? You always used others to help you fight the Nuer, like the British. You used some Nuers and other tribes during the liberation war. Now you use Ugandan army, some Nuers and other tribes to fight for you. You never fought as Dinka.

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              • 12 March 16:42, by Rommel

                Mi diit:
                The war has been a blessing in disguise for the Dinka - it has enjoined them to unify. The military successes that you are referring to are centuries behind us — when the Dinka had an underdeveloped sense of tribal identity, that has only recently been annealed by the war and its affects.

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                • 12 March 16:54, by Rommel

                  See unlike the Nuer, the Dinka could not at all be described as constituting a single tribe; they are in fact many tribes. The Dinka -until very recently- quite strangely never saw the impetus to unify as a tribal unit, whereas Nuer sections combined their efforts against a single Dinka section, one at a time.

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                  • 12 March 17:06, by Rommel

                    Historians are at a consensus you didn’t prevail over the Dinka because of some fanciful notion of military prowess, genius, strategy or apt tactical deployment... You prevailed primarily [if not solely] because of your unity as a tribe, against a divided populace that didn’t have a sense of tribal identity that transcended clan identity and clan loyalty.

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                    • 12 March 17:18, by Rommel

                      The unified Nuer had raiding parties that were usually made up of 1500 men, whereas individual Dinka sections rarely mustered a defencive force above three-hundred men [300], and so it’s not all that surprising -and certainly not all that impressive- that a unified group would prevail over a divided, numerically smaller military force that wasn’t sufficiently tribal minded.

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                      • 12 March 17:24, by Rommel

                        The advantage of the Nuer was based on sheer numbers rather than novel military strategies or fighting techniques. The Dinka were able to repel smaller Nuer raiding parties, were familiar with Nuer tactics, and employed the same multicolumn organization of forces on their own infrequent raids. (Unto Others: The Evolution and Psychology of Unselfish Behavior Elliott Sober)

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                        • 12 March 17:28, by Rommel

                          Nuer and Dinka oral tradition fail to mention a single battle that was won by a clever new strategy. (Unto Others: The Evolution and Psychology of Unselfish Behavior, Elliott Sober)

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                          • 12 March 17:30, by Rommel

                            The Nuer originated as an offshoot of the Dinkas and eventually became distinctive enough to be identified as a separate tribe. (Unto Others: The Evolution and Psychology of Unselfish Behavior, Elliott Sober)

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                            • 12 March 17:37, by Rommel

                              You’re like a Mede boasting to the descendants of the Persians about how they [the Medes] use to exercise hegemony over the Persians prior to the advent of Cyrus the great. You are living vicariously through your great-grandfathers because you realise that you’re absolutely worthless... That you’ve achieved nothing of worth or mention.

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                              • 12 March 17:40, by Rommel

                                The good old days of raiding the divided Dinka with impunity are over... And are NEVER to return. There’s no population on the face of the earth that hasn’t experienced dark moments at the hands of others, at some point in its history. What ultimately matters is not what happened to your great-grandfathers or what they achieved, but what you can do for yourself in the here and now.

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                                • 12 March 17:46, by Rommel

                                  Your numbers -after your defection- were minimal — not worth mentioning. Don’t mention your laughable post 1991 contribution. Why do you refuse to honesty speak about your alliance with Khartoum during the war? Why didn’t your alliance with the Arabs ultimately provide you with an edge!? Your ally was furnished with bombers, jets, helicopter gunships and long range rocket artillery.

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                                  • 12 March 17:50, by Rommel

                                    The allies of the Dinka [the Nuba and the people of Blue Nile] had far less troops to offer; very few heavy weaponry, no steady stream of supplies, no resources and no military industrial base. Your alliance produced a numerically superior force and was furnished with a palette of destructive weaponry. You had a far stronger ally. You should have won... Comfortably, completely!

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        • 11 March 07:47, by Rami Tot

          for what will you feed them and all of you dinka love food that is why you are killing people who need the leadership

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        • 11 March 07:54, by Rami Tot

          Majongdit
          give all the southern sudan tribes a guns so that later turns to you, do you think they are happy with you dinka including eastern equotoria governor?
          those people need to grantee theirs guns onces you give the guns they flush you out of juba and everywhere of greater Equotoria, I love what you are doing you dulls dinka

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      • 11 March 07:32, by Mi diit

        This is truly typical mentality of Mrs. Akiir Museveni. Whenever her poor decision is rejected, the only thing she does is to deny owning that decision in the first a place. If it is not true that he formed the committee, what took him long to react? He simply took time to study the level of rejection of his committee. What a gambling leader!

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        • 11 March 07:39, by Mi diit

          You shouted alleluha days ago that your kiirdit had formed a committee including Taban Deng Gai. Today he has let you down, denying it in front of the whole world. You will always get ashamed of your leader.

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          • 11 March 07:50, by LL Reuben

            Mi diit,
            Ah, you don’t believe in numbers than how do you explain the recruitment of the Nuer teenage boys into the so-called "white army"? You’re extremely pathetic in your attempts to inspire your Ngundeng militias. Riek is just toying with the lives of Nuer teenage boys using them for his greed but this experiment will burst in his face eventually.

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          • 11 March 07:55, by Projector

            Mad Diit or whatever u call ur self, your comments is always about war but let me tell you, war can’t solve the problems of S.Sudan and Machar you always praises will never rule this country. Atleast Kiir tested the fruit of leadership and he is still da one. We S.Sudanese will not give room for tribal war which Mahar’s donkeys claimed it as war of a nation and they are fighting for democracy.

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            • 11 March 07:59, by Projector

              Cont.. Dinka and nuer thought they are the only tribes in S.Sudan but either Kiir or Machar will never be a leader of South Sudan comes 2015.

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              • 11 March 08:05, by Projector

                I like the comment of Daniel Awek, democracy is not all about war but you have to use diplomacy to be a good and lovely leader. You can’t always jump in bush whenever you have difference with your superior, Kiir is da president and he has right to stop rebellion in his country by any means, who are you to oppose the authority of elected leader? Beter be patient and wait your time,2015 is not far.

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    • 11 March 08:08, by Kiir

      Everybody in the world knows President Salva Kiir was drunk last time when he make the appointment of SPLM reconciliation committees at 2:01AM local time in New York Hotel.

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    • 11 March 08:12, by Nyesi Ta

      President Kiir is never sober in the 9 years of his presidency. The guy drank likes a fish, something he always says anina atshanin. He tries to quench his thurst with a bottle of white label instead of water. But the poor man does not understand he is slowly killing himself as well as messing up things which later he denies. Oh! God have mercy on RSS.

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      • 11 March 09:06, by Mi diit

        Are you sure Riek Machar will never become president of South Sudan? Ahahaaa...Guys, think twice. It may happen in your very eyes. Kiir became president because Riek wanted him to, remember, at New Site in 2005.
        @LL Reuben, yes we don’t believe in numbers. We didn’t have to exceed government troops. Whatever number we have will fight on...

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        • 11 March 12:47, by Rommel

          Mi diit:
          Riek had no hand in Salva’s ascension to Executive Office; your myopic idol simply didn’t have any means of creating such an impact. He was politically isolated within the SPLM, and he didn’t have enough troops to wield the sort of influence that you’re speaking of.

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          • 11 March 12:48, by Rommel

            Allow me to cite an actual historian, who actually studied such matters:
            The impact of the long-delayed reconciliation between Riek and Garang in January 2002 was muted by the fact that Riek had very few troops to bring with him. (The root causes of Sudan’s civil wars: Peace Or Truce, Douglas H. Johnson)

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            • 11 March 12:54, by Rommel

              Exercise in cognition leaves you scratching your head in ape-like bewilderment. Either that or you’re just lying out of rage and frustration. Either way, you’re busted, so now what? You trying to get a grasp on politics and subsequently trying to distort it, resembles a horse trying to count by stamping its hooves.

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              • 11 March 12:55, by Rommel

                Question: Do you just sit there -alone- pondering on what you wished had happened? What you wish you could attribute to Riek Machar, like some pagan observant, offering gifts to his divine, infallible and omnipotent god!?

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                • 12 March 05:56, by Mi diit

                  Rommel,
                  I laugh at your desperate attempts to try to convince me using historians who actually got such fake information from people like you. Do you think historians don’t make mistakes, particularly when they are bias? Why did your historians have to get information from Dinka side and not from Nuer side? Some did not do independent investigations or verifications, they were bias to suit you.

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                  • 12 March 17:56, by Rommel

                    Mi diit:
                    Well, keep "laughing", like the class clown who tries to make a joke of his own stupidity, hoping that others won’t see that when he stops "laughing".... he’s still stupid. No one is buying your excuses. Try again. It’s fun watching you squirm. You can’t debate. You can’t cite sources . You can’t even counter facts. You’re only good for laughs.

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                    • 12 March 17:59, by Rommel

                      Historians have to follow a high scholarly standard; they don’t just absorb pieces of information like a sponge. Historians disagree with your ahistorial accounts, and no amount of dishonesty and conspiracy theory will help you. You can cry until your eyes drop out, baby boy.

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                      • 12 March 18:11, by Rommel

                        The historian that I cited has lived with the Nuer for years, spoken intimately with the Nuer, wrote books about their religion and cultural practices and was instrumental in retrieving Ngundeng’s dang. Are you suggesting that -despite all of this- that he is biased against the Nuer!? Whoa, paranoid much? He should be predisposed towards you by now, no?

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  • 11 March 07:12, by Paul Chadrack

    after his proposal was rejected by the rebel he is now trying to blind fool south sudanese again that he did not form any committee including those who are not under his authority. when will the bhar el gazel gangs learn to tell the trust?. shame on the greedy foolish people.

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  • 11 March 07:15, by Malou Manyiel

    Ateny Wek Ateny, who is now to blame? Is it the government or the media? This is what made the public to mistrust the government. They said this today and tomorrow they denied to have said it. Why fool the public all the times? When will our government feed us with the right information? Ateny Wek, where have you been since the time of publication of forming reconciliatory committee?

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  • 11 March 07:16, by Letigolight

    Hipocrites! Drunkards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • 11 March 07:41, by Sir King

      Akol Paul Kordit, stupid like his Awan Chan cattle keeper leader, Kiir Kuethpiny. This we are going to encourage Aweil population against Kiir because they are suffering invain when Fool Awan chan men are the one enjoying. We must be employed equally otherwise change inevitable in South Sudan. Better Nuer, instead of a foolish person like Kiir.

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  • 11 March 07:51, by Niggorota

    Ateny Wek stop behaving as if you are dealing with uneducated people. If this report was not true what took you so long?
    You guys know that you are running a government not a personal business.

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  • 11 March 07:57, by Angelo Kumuko

    That semi illiterate Akol, can still open is rotten mouth and deliver utter-nonsense messages. Kiir must step down.

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  • 11 March 08:06, by Ajongtar

    Salva Kiir be carefully of ur press secretary, He is oversteping his mandate!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
    This is an issue connected with SPLM party leadeship, does the SPLM as a party has no Spokeperson that deals with party concerns????
    Where is mr. Yen Mathew?????????????
    Once again be carefull of this Ateny Wek Atny,

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    • 11 March 08:09, by maluach madit

      I think, there is nothing wrong to accept having formed the committee. That’s why the world will know that president is looking for peace in the country. Our worries are; Junub e panda wuodhie, and if its destruction becomes the first choice by our home maddest brainless stooges like Midiit and Kim Deng with their father Dr Machar, then let’s not worry. Their hope for UN and US...

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      • 11 March 08:11, by maluach madit

        US will never allow them (Nuer) to accept whatever a black man can say, other than the two bodies ( America and Un). Kim and midiit only know four things in their lives. They know how to encourage the war, how to embarrass their nationality, how to betray their brothers and how to loot things from innocent people. I am very sure Ngundeng is very happy to witness how truthful I am !.

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        • 11 March 09:09, by Mi diit

          And you know how to provoke and start a war!

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  • 11 March 09:30, by Ajongtar

    Once again Mr.Salva Kiir be carefully of ur press secretary, He is oversteping his mandate!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

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  • 11 March 09:32, by Ambago

    That’s why it is not wise to make major decisions under the influence of illicit substances. When people are stoned and completely high everything looks too simplistic and you end up with this kind of committees which can’t which simply defies every logic. Now see how the president has shamed himself plus his closest allies no other than Daniel Awet and the so-called Akoldit. Learn to remain sober

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    • 11 March 10:09, by jijury

      Kiir and his followers desperately looking for any way possible to stay in power. but they don’t know their days are numbered. that’s a pure fact. Kiir surrounding himself with people are too greedy to look beyond their noses. I feel sorry for Mr. incompetent Akiir M7 everyday they keep denying statements they made. for how long will this idiot keep himself in power through lies?

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  • 11 March 15:54, by Kim Deng

    The Dinka Kingdom Court is going to send the three innocent people to death at any time soon.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-26531222

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  • 12 March 05:59, by Mi diit

    Rommel,
    I laugh at your desperate attempts to try to convince me using historians who actually got such fake information from people like you. Do you think historians don’t make mistakes, particularly when they are bias? Why did your historians have to get information from Dinka side and not from Nuer side? Some did not do independent investigations or verifications; they were bias to suit you!

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    • 12 March 06:02, by Mi diit

      Many of them were hired historians to write rubbish for you. I know John Garang used to pay many of them to write books, telling stories that suited him and his faction. We didn’t money to hire historians to write books against you people. And besides, it was morally wrong to fake history.

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      • 12 March 18:16, by Rommel

        Mi diit:
        Well, keep "laughing", like the class clown who tries to make a joke of his own stupidity, hoping that others won’t see that when he stops "laughing".... he’s still stupid. No one is buying your excuses. Try again. It’s fun watching you squirm. You can’t debate. You can’t cite sources . You can’t even counter facts. You’re only good for laughs.

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        • 12 March 18:16, by Rommel

          Historians have to follow a high scholarly standard; they don’t just absorb pieces of information like a sponge. Historians disagree with your ahistorial accounts, and no amount of dishonesty and conspiracy theory will help you. You can cry until your eyes drop out, baby boy.

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          • 12 March 18:21, by Rommel

            The historian that I cited has lived with the Nuer for years, spoken intimately with the Nuer, wrote books about their religion and cultural practices and was instrumental in retrieving Ngundeng’s dang. Are you suggesting that -despite all of this- that he is biased against the Nuer!? Whoa, paranoid much? He should be predisposed towards you by now, no?

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            • 12 March 18:24, by Rommel

              I’m not trying to convince you of anything. You actually need a working mind in order to be convinced of something. No one can explain anything to you, as your brain is defective. So I use you for comedy as a degenerate and intransigent child, and teach others instead. You should be happy to at least be useful, in spite of your limitations.

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              • 12 March 18:34, by Rommel

                Your on-going postings only prove that you really don’t want to learn anything. What you want is to believe in something ridiculous. In turn, this is why you can’t learn. There is no evidence that Dr. John Garang De Mabior ever payed any historian to distort history. Do you have any evidence for your claim!?

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                • 12 March 18:36, by Rommel

                  Catching you in a lie is a bit like harpooning a goldfish. The man is dead... Stop lying about him. You keep the stuff at such a looney level, that no one takes it seriously, so I don’t think it can work, even on a petty-revenge level. Our conversations go nowhere because your fantasies are trapped and crushed by facts, that cause you attempt to repeat the same old lies.

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                  • 12 March 18:48, by Rommel

                    If you’re going to make allegations, you should make sure you have sources that can affirm your assertions, that you are prepared to present — on demand. You are obviously far too self-deluded and emotionally stunted to objectively assess why none are persuaded by your discourse in dishonesty. When you are pressed for evidence, you always disappear into a cloud of verbiage. Why is this?

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                    • 12 March 18:54, by Rommel

                      In your response to me, I want you to counter fully and candidly with facts and not with your usual verbiage. I doubt that you will, because, well... you’re a bewildered, confounded, and miserably perplexed man. If you had evidence of any kind why is it that your posts consists only of rhetoric, but not of actual evidence of any kind?

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