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S. Sudan Talks: Machar says “third bloc” choice unfortunate

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February 16, 2014 (ADDIS ABABA) – South Sudan’s former vice president turned rebel leader, Riek Machar, said the decision of the seven recently released party leaders to form a third bloc “does not help the cause” of the resistance.

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South Sudan’s rebel leader Riek Machar gestures as he talks to his men in Jonglei January 31, 2014 (Reuters Goran Tomasevic)

He, however, maintained that he respected their decision not to join either side in the country’s two-month conflict.

The seven leaders were released as part of the agreement signed on 23 January between the government of President Salva Kiir and the SPLM-In-Opposition.

During a meeting held in Nairobi after their release, the Inter-governmental Authority on Development (IGAD) invited them to join the peace talks in the Ethiopian capital as a neutral group.

The group on Friday February 13 declared that they would not join either Kiir or Machar, and instead formed what they called ’SPLM leaders former detainees’. Machar’s political views were initially seen as in line with those of the former detainees.

Machar confirmed to Sudan Tribune on Sunday that he politically shared views with the seven leaders, only that they had now shied away from the "armed resistance".

"I didn’t understand their decision. We only differ in the armed resistance. Their decision doesn’t help the cause, but it is their choice," he added.

He went further to suspect that the leaders were under pressure by IGAD to remain as such.

Nonetheless, the rebel leader demanded the release of the remaining four leaders, namely Pagan Amum, Oyai Deng, Majak Agot and Ezekiel Lol, saying the participation of the seven leaders at the talks would be "inadequate" without those in detention.

The four, Machar and two others still at large face treason charges.

He accused President Kiir’s government of holding hostage the four detained leaders, stressing that it also "amounted to the series of violations of the agreements signed by the two parties".

Fighting broke out in mid-December between the presidential guards in the capital, Juba and quickly spread to three other states in the country.

President Kiir immediately accused his former deputy Machar of attempting a coup, which the latter denied saying it was a ploy by the president to try to silence his political opponents within the ruling party (SPLM).

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  • 17 February 06:48, by Mi diit

    The so-called 7 SPLM detainees have betrayed the rebels. They think the IGAD will force Kiir to step down so that they form an interim government before 2015. Well, they will be useless when Kiir and Machar resort to fighting. Machar is not weak militarily, but he is playing a game of retreat. Soon tables will turn when it is time to fight back!!!

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    • 17 February 06:53, by Malakal county Simon

      Let’s them go, because they are all gold diggers....

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      • 17 February 07:03, by Mi diit

        Those 7 leaders plus Nyandeng are opportunists. Unlike Machar who challenged Kiir’s bad leadership while still the vice president, The 7 leaders didn’t have problem with Kiir until later on when they were removed. So they want a power-sharing with Kiir, or maybe remove Kiir and impose themselves as the interim leadership. But I doubt their success since they don’t have forces to dictate terms...

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        • 17 February 08:29, by Konkooc

          all nuer anus with thier stupid phd looters riek on fire, that what i use to say that nuer may win battle but not war.
          let riek with his nuer in opposition test bush life and fight for 21 years because before they did not fight arab well they betrayed SPLA in 1991.

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          • 17 February 12:42, by jubaone

            Konkooc,
            Your rough language is typical of jenges, uncultured backward and just stupid. Why cant you reason well and analyse issues instead of being abusive? What else can one expect from a "lost jenge?" Only dirty language. even his old cow in the luak can reason better than you. Scum.

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            • 17 February 16:02, by Bungachier 50

              Dear Jubaone, even if you come from the Nuer tribe, your comments show that you are RESPONSIBLE. We should stop! generalizing people based on their Ethnicity.

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          • 17 February 13:33, by Tong dut

            THE DIVISION OF DINKAS AND NUER HAD CREATED FIRST SUDAN WAR, NON OF THEM WILL RULED US,DEATH TO KIIR.

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        • 17 February 11:32, by michael coma

          Those seven officials are not primitive like Riek Machar and Hussein Maar.They knows what is good and bad.Let greedy leaders Riek and Taban who formed movement leadership with their favor and for got others,like 11 detainees.Riek put himself on top followed by Taban.See this poor thinking.

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          • 17 February 23:52, by Tutbol

            michael coma,
            These seven thugs & the mediators who involved them in the negotiations have just made a serious blunder to that peace talks & have sealed a fate for those seven thugs for the worse unfortunately. Those seven thugs don’t give a damn about S Sudanese & S Sudan, but their egos & their jobs. They have not condemned Riek Machar armed rebelion & have not told S Sudanese people what is...

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            • 18 February 00:00, by Tutbol

              that that take them to Adis Ababa & what constituency that they went to represent in Adis Ababa? The US, the Europeans, Ethiopia, Kenya & God knows who else want those seven thugs to be included in that already rigged negotiation, But S Sudanese people do not want those seven thugs in that negotiation. one wonders if that negotiation is for the so-called mediators & the international community...

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              • 18 February 00:10, by Tutbol

                interests or the interests of S Sudanese people. Those thugs are validating it now that they were behind the attempted coup after all. They shouldn’t be in that negotiation at all unless they are in Riek Machar armed rebellion camp. There are some clowns in the US, Europe & even in S Sudan who wanted to stifle the idea that those seven thugs are not behind the Riek Machar attempted coup & armed...

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                • 18 February 00:18, by Tutbol

                  rebellion, but it would now requires the grandest of miracles to deny that at juncture. The so-called Mediators & the international community have just created a somalisation of S Sudan by including that of seven in that talks. But with those group of usual egos, they are seeing the precedent they are setting up in S Sudan politics; because everything is all about (the group of 7)....

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                  • 18 February 00:26, by Tutbol

                    The talks in Adis Ababa should have been between the govt of S Sudan & Riek Machar’s armed rebellion. and once the govt of S Sudan & Riek Machar armed rebellion stop fighting, then the group of 7 can then join in for politcal dialogues including everybody in S Sudan. And that politcal dialogues should have been in S Sudan & not in a foreign country....

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                    • 18 February 00:35, by Tutbol

                      What would the so-called mediators & the international community achieve by inviting those seven thugs in that negotiation would have to seen. Usual bullying of Kiir govt by the International community aside, bullying the entire S Sudanese citizenry would a different matter all together. The so-called mediators & the international community must know that those seven thugs are constituency less...

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                      • 18 February 00:50, by Tutbol

                        And including them in that Adis Ababa negotiation against the will of S Sudanese is a big blunder from the so-called mediators & waste of S Sudanese & their times. Those seven thugs are not going to be recycled by foreigners as S Sudanese recycled new leaders. Their involvement in Adis Ababa negotiations should have come from S Sudan & S Sudanese & not from foreign capitals.

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                        • 18 February 06:32, by denng

                          Mr Tut, I don’t know why you want to implicate others when it was Rick who prolonged this unfortunate war to secure the release of these 7 scumbags. Riak’s history is a series of mistakes, he’s not wise enough to be a leader.

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      • 17 February 07:10, by Wicdail

        You can’t receive anything good from a team led by John Lok and Deng Alor; a ante-Machar since the formation of the SPLA/M. Only that he was in trouble with his boss (Kirr) in corruption and also on Abiey issue. Otherwise, he couldn’t joint Dr. Rick, Nyadeng and Pagan’s team. By the way, they will join the rebel when things turn ugly.

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        • 17 February 07:33, by Panda Odhie

          You Neurism the political crisis in the country so if you own the country problem to be Neur problem that why you see many people are keeping quite and isolated from your fighting.So you should not be surprised brothers

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        • 17 February 07:37, by Bentiu son

          Those 7 leaders called themselves SPLM former detainees should come to their senses and giving more thanks Dr Machar and his freedom fighters who struggled hard to free them from hands of genocidal regime of Mr Salva Kiir Mayardit.Yes,Dr Machar respected their choices but they will regrets soon because fighting is going to be intensify bt Dr Machar freedom fighters v Museveni’s mercenaries,JEM,SRF

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      • 17 February 07:47, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

        Riek pout Nyuon is a dog. And his life is in a balance. There will never be any Dinka blood associated can ever following him, within few days or maybe months if he will every be lucky, you will heard Taban Deng Gai taking it over from the dead man, mark me, at the end of this years, will never talk about person called Riek pout, every Africans leader believed that Riek will be a puppet of west,

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        • 17 February 08:30, by Wicdail

          DD/SPLA/M and likes,
          It’s good you confessed that Dr. Rick is the only leader who can deliver democracy with transparency and the rule of law.Because being a Western puppet means different things. You will see on your own eyes Dr. Machar in a very near future will take the leadership of RSS from this wicked man (Kirr) if you will be still alive. Thanks God the campaign carried out by Kirr and M7

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          • 17 February 08:31, by Wicdail

            Con. to kill him has shamelessly failed.

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    • 17 February 07:28, by LL Reuben

      Mi diit,
      Every Nuer young generation who look up to demagogue like machar or emulates the political decision Machar makes will always have a nut to crack. This is Machar’s last chance in the political lime light in the Republic of South Sudan; he makes it or break it. Thus far from the look of realities on the ground it is crystal clear that Riek will not make it; he will break it...

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      • 17 February 07:35, by LL Reuben

        Unfortunately by the time Riek finally except defeat, the Nuer tribe would’ve lost many children; the teenagers in the so-called white army Riek is currently using as fighters for his meaningless and selfish war. Ngundeng prophecies don’t fit the persona in Riek. Why Riek supporters don’t advise Riek of his illogical claim to be the one Ngundeng had prophesied about is beyond any human being...

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        • 17 February 07:44, by LL Reuben

          Riek will not get any supports from either Ethoipia or Sudan. Sudan is more interested in the flowing of oil as the transit fees that Sudan is collecting from RSS’s oil are safeguarding the total collapse of Sudan’s dire economy. Ethoipia on the other hand is much more conscious about what will happen to her if similar scenario in RSS are put into practice in their tarps.

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      • 17 February 07:36, by Mi diit

        LL Reuben,
        I like your illusion that the rebels are defeated and Riek won’t make it. Ah, but shouldn’t you wait until the last bullet is silent. My friend, you don’t know what is coming tomorrow. You will talk a different language, mark my words. I know what is happening.

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        • 17 February 07:39, by Mi diit

          But don’t talk as if you care for the Nuer children, teenagers or white army as you called them. You killed innocent Nuer civilians in Juba, infants, kids, old, women, etc. So, don’t mind if they die in the battle. We are sure that they will be revenged and you will face the same music soon in the next few weeks and months. You will cry hard when the tables turn...

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          • 17 February 07:54, by LL Reuben

            Mi diit,
            You’ve been projecting that same illusion for almost a decade now. Will it be different this time around or is it just as usual. Well, I got some advices for you fool. I want you keep preaching that motivational message to goons supporting the so-called "prophet of doom" in Riek Machar. Your mini god Riek must win through the barrel of gun as he has chose or hand himself over to Kiir...

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            • 17 February 08:04, by LL Reuben

              Those are the two best choices Riek will have the honor to pick either of them. The third choice which is rather unfortunate for you and the rest of the fools supporting him is the likelihood that Riek might loose his dear life due to inevitable circumstances of war. Please plan wisely if you truly admire the man. Victory demands a lot, and a primitive group of teenagers under the guidance...

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              • 17 February 08:11, by LL Reuben

                of documented failed demagogue (Riek) will not fetch it for you.

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              • 17 February 08:12, by Mi diit

                LL Reuben,
                I like your advice with death threats. But save it for you and Salva Kiir. I know what I am talking about. If you think the recent withdrawals and retreats by the rebels is a sign of weakness and defeat you are wrong. Take it from me. Any talk of defeat is far away now in our minds. We are for a surprise to you soon. I hope you will be lucky to escape. But I doubt Kiir will.

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                • 17 February 08:28, by LL Reuben

                  Mi diit,
                  Oh please don’t take me wrong, I’ve never "doubted what you are talking about", you’re absolutely capable of instigating any horrific situation, this is what you’re known for all over the world. Beside, I am not threatening your idol with the possibility of death, I was just mentioning the most obvious possible situation that can occur when one is engaging in a war.

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        • 17 February 16:08, by Bungachier 50

          Mr. Miidit! you might be right that fighting will again resume, but my plea is that with fighting we are not going to gain any thing brother, rather than destroying our property and lives. Please! let us try to campaign for peace as future generation of this Great Nation, you inclusive especial way.

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        • 17 February 17:54, by Kerem

          Speaking about war always mi diit won’t help but rather talk like a concerned citizen. Do you think that the bullets of the other side do not penetrate your body? Why did you run away from Juba if you were a mighty warrior? you are just a shit and confused element

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    • 17 February 07:54, by Gogrialboys

      Hey folks, did any one see what the so called Nuer for democracy doing in Gadiang, Bor? They burnt down the church and instead they build satanic structure as palace for Riak Machar. Now he is crying that the seven detainees didn’t join him, but I wonder whether those he wants are going to wear animal skins as he did in his Ngundeng palace. Pathetic and shame to all Nuers who are following him.

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    • 17 February 09:03, by Mike Mike

      Riek want to die like his friend Alfred Lado Gore who was killed at Kalthok by mighty SPLA forces if he didn’t change his mind from persuading rebellion that he will never be benefited out of it.One tribe can’t bring down the sitting govt at all unless they join hands with others tribes across the country politically and not on tribal concept.

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    • 17 February 14:37, by Johndumo14

      Dr Riek Machar is Nuer outside,but inside is arab.
      Now he is not talking,because The Gov.forces & Uganda Army have pushed him to the corner.When his rebels took control of Bor,Bentiu;Malakal,he was very happy that soon he was to be in Juba soon.Now things are different,even sooner,he will not call to ouside World,because no net Work.

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    • 17 February 14:46, by Johndumo14

      Dr Riek Machar,has nice homes around the World,has stollen millions of dollars ,he was Vice president for the last 8 years,despite all the crimes he commited during the 1991.
      People forgave him,and gave him the job of Vice President,he is not satisfied ,Again he is a rebel leader in the hjungle,what does he realy want?? Thousands have already been killed,will he be the president of grave yard??

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  • 17 February 07:37, by Son of Ngundeng

    An useless men have no side, shame on them. For how long you will follow the wrong decision? you were release because of Machar, and right now when you get a chance you need to betray him. Our movement will not be stopped because you are out of it, never forever,Machar didn’t believed them for sure!!

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  • 17 February 08:12, by Kalo

    Let me tell you,all those political leaders including four detainees will not join Machar rebellions,Machar,Taban,Gadet,James Kong/CDR& Ezeliel are they only who will remain in bush but final they will shake their hands with Kiir,those who die,have nothing to do with it ,it is ever there in South Sudan since 1990s,no accountability,only reconciliation &forgiveness and again to the bush.
    Wad-Nuba

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    • 17 February 09:36, by Bentiu son

      Kalo poor Nuba Mt boy,it seems you want to continue collecting Arabs tools as you used to be, why fighting Nuer instead of Arabs who slaved you since the creation of the globe.Do you thinks fighting along side Dinkas Gelweng militias/SPLA of Salva Kiir as hired mercenaries will cure your madness n free you from bondage of Arabs? No moron, instead you won’t smell your waiting autonomous state gover

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      • 17 February 13:16, by Kalo

        The stupid son of Bentiu,we are not fighting against you but if you need us to involve,you will have no safe heaven in South Sudan,if Nuba are there with Salva Kiir,Ugandan could have not involve,for Arabs,we are giving them good lessons,who among you seized 10 tanks,with in hours,all the fighting of SS in 1990s,during Riak,Nyoun and Karbino rebellion,i was there,Nuer were nothing to us only ran.

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      • 17 February 13:17, by Kalo

        The stupid son of Bentiu,we are not fighting against you but if you need us to involve,you will have no safe heaven in South Sudan,if Nuba are there with Salva Kiir,Ugandan could have not involve,for Arabs,we are giving them good lessons,who among you seized 10 tanks,with in hours,all the fighting of SS in 1990s,during Riak,Nyoun and Karbino rebellion,i was there,Nuer were nothing to us only ran.

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      • 17 February 13:27, by Kalo

        Cont.If you Nuer people want to be the good neighbor stop false accusation,otherwise you will not stay in your burning town of Bentiu,let me assure you Nuer people,you will never win your war,coz not all Nuer are with Riak Machar,not all Dinka are with Salva Kiir but 63 tribes are not with Nuer,unless you create your own country that will never happen,we are controlling 60% of Land in SK & YOU.

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        • 17 February 19:55, by Oppressor

          control what 60 % haaaa idiot Kalo liar Just control your shit if u can .. u are dead with M7 looter who’s infected with HIV fighting ur own & criminal who killed & raped Nuer Innocent girl ..u will soon shoveled out S.S & all nuer areas ..

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          • 18 February 07:08, by Kalo

            Stupid oppressor,can you tell me the areas control by SAF in South Kordofan,in Kadugli,only Kadugli town and Kega,other areas are controlling by SPLA-N,In Dilling,only Dilling town ur, Governor Alfekei accept that SPLA-N are very where within 17 localities except Algos and Habilla,u know nothing about SK,where are ur husbands militants ran from SK fuck ur wives in Elobied

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  • 17 February 08:40, by Ayuiu Makuac Lam

    Machar is even lying, Riak Machar cannot affort they what so call arm struggle and ethinic line killing, to defeat a government, he better to accept what His-Excellency the president say, to come and build the nation without precondition. For me, Machar is defeated completely.

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    • 17 February 09:28, by Bentiu son

      Makuac Lam stop lying son of bitch.You Dinka thugs are proud for nothing,we Nuer are not fighting coward Jeenge but M7 UPDF,M23 N JEM,SRF of poor(Nuba&Aghasna).Cowards,if the current tribal war is bt mighty Nuer warriors v cowards Jeenge it won’t takes one month as it took now.M7 said should it not Ugandan military involvement Dr Machar would had already sipped his coffee at South Sudan Palace.

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      • 17 February 09:59, by jijury

        Salva Kiir is a dead man walking He thought by paying Museveni 9 billions it will save him and his tribesmen that’s a wishful thinking. Salva will never reach 2015 alive mark my words!!! This idiot is lucky that his father Museveni is backing him, but Uganda is a poor country, it’ll not maintain a long war.Dinka must be ready because Nuer will fight them in next 100 years to come.

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      • 17 February 12:46, by chol

        Son of bitch stop crying already nothing wrong to let those mentions above are our allies you can bring whoever you want to fight SPLA we will still defeat you.

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  • 17 February 09:43, by Dinka-Defender-General

    Guys, mark my words, Machar leadership is gone case. He will face treason charges very soon with his rebel leaders. We, the leaders of South Sudan told Nyandeng with her son to go to exile until we handle this issue. They excepted and we are glad they did. Machar wants Nuer people to fight for his selfish war. What are they fighting for if I may ask? Remember, since 1991 Machar had been fighting..

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  • 17 February 11:02, by Ayuiu Makuac Lam

    Bentiu Son
    seven freed politicians are more wise than Riak Machar. Because arm struggle is too late than of today.
    Machar is defeated in many ways, whether arm or ethinicity struggle , Machar completely failed. He can surrended to government of Republic of Kenya for his safty.

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    • 17 February 15:17, by Konkooc

      breaking news
      riek devil was killed in her hiding place by angry lou nuer whom their sons got killed. riek want to finish lou nuer and told her people in bentiu not to fight and seek shelter in Warrap State. after lou nuer knew that they hunted her down and killed.

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  • 17 February 16:30, by Mapuor

    Hahahahah what is that?. South Sudan needs Salva Kiir for three more decades.Guys, just look at Nyagaats they do not have a leader. Upper Nile is a combustible mix and you have now seen what they,Nuers ,did to Padang and Bor South Dinkas.They are now battling Chollo in Obel.Hahahah gatcieth,wuree ci bi met buoth.Hahahah ok aa akumma SPLA/M.come on

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  • 17 February 20:15, by Whortti Bor Manza

    God is great: Allah Hu Akbar. who knew John Luke would ever fall out with Kiir. He was responsible for giving Kiir absolute and immense power in the Interim Constitution. In every 10 words uttered by John Luke, 7 would be OUR PRESIDENT. May be Ger Thuong,the rest are all docile opportunists. I wish Kiir could have killed them all except Ger Thuong.

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  • 17 February 20:16, by Whortti Bor Manza

    God is great: Allah Hu Akbar. who knew John Luke would ever fall out with Kiir. He was responsible for giving Kiir absolute and immense power in the Interim Constitution. In every 10 words uttered by John Luke, 7 would be OUR PRESIDENT. May be Ger Thuong,the rest are all docile opportunists. I wish Kiir could have killed them all except Ger Thuong.

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  • 17 February 21:21, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

    Ngok will never forgive Riek Machar again and Nuer tribal army. We will dear with all elements that are threatening South Sudan National Security. Jieng will fight to the end against Nuer Arab intruder in sudan Land.

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  • 17 February 23:41, by Never

    you see they Nuer stupid mentality, this Guy so call Riak Machar. he situation himself with nightmare. from ass clean by water to ass clean by on stick of breach three, that is ashamed mad and love big food.

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  • 18 February 04:53, by 4Justice

    Masonic - Occultic Numerology

    1.Seven (7) is a sacred number. Van Buren calls 7 "one of the most sacred of all the numbers...the Invisible Centre, the Spirit of everything". (p. 39) Since multiplication of seven creates an even more powerful sacred number, we should not be surprised that 3x7, or 21, is considered powerful.
    2.Eleven (11) is a sacred number. When eleven is multiplied by the perfect number 3, the number 33 is produced, a number of tremendous occult importance. In 1933, Adolf Hitler and President Franklin Roosevelt came to power. Both these men were committed to the establishment of the New World Order, and their actions impacted humanity greatly. It was also in 1933 that the First Humanist Manifesto was issued. Do you see how Satan manipulated world history to produce three New World Order events in 1933? Thus, a powerful 333 served as a framework for world events in that year.
    3.Thirteen (13) is deemed sacred. It was also no accident that Hitler chose the year 1939 to begin World War II, because 39 is formed by the multiplication of 13x3. Thus, you can see how human history has been shaped by the occult belief in the power of numbers.

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