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South Sudan says Abyei will be reclaimed “at any cost”

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May 5,2013 (JUBA) – South Sudan said on Sunday that it will reclaim the oil- producing region of Abyei from the government of neighboring Sudan with which it has repeatedly failed to settle the region’s final status “at any cost”, and repeated accusation to Khartoum of “masterminding” the killing of paramount chief Kuol Deng Kuol on Saturday.

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South Sudan president Salva Kiir Mayardit (Reuters)

Kuol,was killed during following a standoff that lasted for several hours with armed members of the Misseriya who claimed that the Dinka Ngok chief was passing through their land without permission.

However, Sudan’s interior ministry said in a statement today that the armed Misseriya demanded from Kuol that their stolen cattle stolen by Dinka Ngok returned to them.

The tribal leader was being escorted in a convoy protected by the United Nations Interim Force for Abyei (UNISFA) in the presence of its Ethiopian commander Major General Yohannes Gebremeskel Tesfamariam.

The ministry blamed Kuol for visiting northern Abyei region inhabited by the Misseriya without informing the monitors.

It is not clear who fired the first shot but a Misseriya chief told Agence France Presse (AFP) that the clash happened when a UN peacekeeper soldier shot one of the Misseriya who was readying his weapon.

Sudan said that yesterday’s incidents resulted in 17 deaths and 12 injuries among the Misseriya.

Two people were killed from the Dinka Ngok side including Kuol. One peacekeeper was
killed on spot and two others seriously injured. Later one of the injured soldiers passed away.

South Sudan president Salva Kiir Mayardit sprung up to his feet at a mourning function held in Juba today saying the issue should be left to the governments of Khartoum and Juba to handle it but stressed that he was certain the region would one day return to the South “at any cost”.

“This is sad. No one had expected this to happen at a time when we have accepted to give peace a chance. President Bashir and I have accepted and declared at the press conference here when he visited Juba to work together for peace. I know it pains but this should be left to the government to see what to do. And I only want to assure you that I am certain that Abyei will one day come to the south at any cost”, Kiir told thousands of mourners on Sunday.

South Sudanese minister of information Barnaba Marial said the government condemned the attack in the "strongest term possible" and called on the international community, particularly the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) and African Union to investigate and hold those responsible to account.

“The government of the republic of South Sudan condemns this unwarranted and unprovoked attack. This cowardly act of terrorism is unacceptable”, Marial told reporters Sunday.

The minister did not say what the government planned to do but said president Kiir had been engaged in discussion with Sudanese president Omer Hassan al-Bashir over the issue since yesterday.

"The government is committed to pursuing this issue. President Salva Kiir Mayardit himself has since yesterday been engaged with president Bashir in discussion to find out how to address the issue”, he said.

South Sudan’s Cabinet Affairs Minister, Deng Alor Kuol accused Sudan of effectively helping members of the Arabs nomads of Misseriya with weapons to carry out attacks in the area.

Minister Alor said chief Kuol was killed with another elder from the area and six others, five of whom are members of the Ethiopians nationals serving as part of the United Nations peacekeeping forces in the area.

Three others were wounded and are in stable condition. He warned that the killing of the paramount chief would “open the door to all possibilities", without elaborating on the remarks but officials and residents argued supply of weapons.

Speaking at the same function, Edward Lino, the Co-Chair of the Abyei Joint Oversight Committee (AJOC), on the side of South Sudan and who is also the head of the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) branch office in the area, said while wiping his face from shedding tears that “he is very sad but was sure the area would not remain in Sudan even if it means losing the whole population in the course of fighting for the liberation of the people from years of bondage”.

“The world is helplessly looking on events unfolding in Abyei as if they are watching soccer. The international community, particularly key players, the America and her allies, the Security Council of the United Nations, the African Union and the regional leaders have left Abyei to be constantly subjected to heinous crimes and killing always committed by the criminals and the indicted president of Sudan and his government. They do not care what the international community says. They believe in seeing”, Lino told reporters Sunday.

Lino said he was only waiting to recover from his sickness and will move into the area with youth group who will accept to follow him.

“I am sad this happened. The issue of Abyei is very simple. It is simple thing because it is about land. This land belongs to us and we will get it from any animal or person by all means because it is ours. Nobody will ever deny our right”, Lino explained to the mourners mainly women and youth groups from the area.

UNISFA SHOOTS AT PROTESTERS IN ABYEI

Meanwhile thousands of people in Agok and in Abyei took to the streets to protest the killing of the chief, burning down shops belonging to Sudanese traders in Abyei town and bringing down a mosque, resulting into exchange of fire with members of the Ethiopian forces in the town.

Local officials and relatives said “three juveniles” were shot in the protest by the United Nations Interim Force for Abyei (UNISFA), generating disquiet and tension in town and the surrounding area.

“Three children, very young below 18 years have been shot by the UNISFA during the protest. They have not died but they are in critical condition. I think Ethiopian forces have a problem with our people. They shoot at our innocent and unarmed civilians and leave those who pose the danger. The Misseriya are at large holding weapons and attacking and killing people and UNISFA does not respond. They only respond when it is something related to the concern of our people”, Mijak Dau, a senior Civil Servant in Abyei town, an administrative headquarters of the area said.

It was unclear whether there were members of the Misseriya tribe or traders from other states in Sudan who were injured or killed during the protests although authorities said no Sudanese nationals were in town during protest.

"There are no traders from Sudan in the area. They fled yesterday after learning the incident. The town is now empty. The protesters only burned empty shops without goods", said Kuol Deng, a civil servant in Abyei.

Abyei was scheduled to have a referendum in January 2011 to decide its fate but it never took place as Khartoum and Juba disagreed on who should be able to participate.

Last year, the African Union mediation team proposed that a referendum be held in the contested region this October, but that only those residing permanently in the area would be allowed to vote in the plebiscite, and decide whether they want to join Sudan or South Sudan.

This proposal would effectively make the majority of voters come from the Dinka Ngok tribe, aligned with South Sudan, thus putting the Arab Misseriya nomads, who spend several months in Abyei every year grazing, not part of the voting.

According to the mediators, exclusion of the Misseriya nomads, in line with the decision of the Hague-based arbitration court, which defined the territory of the nine Ngok Dinka chiefdoms in July 2009.

However, Sudan swiftly rejected the plan, which received the blessing of the AU Peace and Security Council (AUPSC)

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  • 6 May 2013 05:31, by Dinkawarrior

    Mr. Cowboy your failure reach our blood in our bodies. You two choices, either to resigns your position or lead the SPLA into Abyei Soil!!

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    • 6 May 2013 05:43, by Dinkawarrior

      You only have choices or otherwise you will kick the bucket. Your care more about Oil than the lives of your people, talking without actions is became a best song. You needs to make a research on how the president should work and how he or she protect his people if some like this happened to the country?

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      • 6 May 2013 06:02, by Dinkawarrior

        Our people been slaughtered every day before UN and nobody say anything. So when are you going to say no to UN? You’re not qualify to be a man, even some women are better than you. You and your Traitor Vice president brought shame to our people, you’re there to loot our resources than protecting our lives. Shame you all!

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        • 6 May 2013 08:19, by laatmachol apac

          why do you preach war instead finding solution to the problem,you are just fighting with mouth like my wife.leadership have it own strategy and you can not reach to fight like lady.Kiir has been warrior than warrior of website.take arm and go to Abyei with Edward after recover as he say.all of us are mourning for incident and we must investigate the cause prior to retaliation.

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          • 6 May 2013 10:56, by Dinkawarrior

            Laatmachol apec
            You and you’re wife are stupid cowardices because of Arguing every day, I have been a Warrior since day one. If you’re women’s fighter than I’m really sorry about you, you’re Not my Type.

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          • 6 May 2013 11:16, by SSLA/M Supporter

            Condolences!!!
            I offer my condolences to the family of the deceased paramount chief and to the people of Abyei, for this tragic death, may God rest him in peace and comfort his loved ones.
            Moreover,let us play calm as President Kirr advised, let us not repeat that tragic incident of the so-called Panthow!! whoever did this sh/he is not happy to see peace between our two countries!! God bless you

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            • 6 May 2013 11:54, by SSLA/M Supporter

              Ethiopian troops as peacekeeping forces in Abyei is a big joke to me!! Mr Edward Lino and Ahmed Deng Alour must start to arm their people of Abyei rather than relying on Ethiopian Soldiers whose purpose of volunteering to peacekeeping taste is largely driven by money rather than merely humanity!!if you think they can die to protect the people of Abyei you must be fooling yourselves!!

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              • 6 May 2013 20:38, by Tiger

                what do you expect to happen when SS is beng rule by someone who doesn’t hve any clue about the leadership,Kiir is a wasting of name to be called a president,of course people will always die during his presidency because he’s weak just like a banana.

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            • 6 May 2013 14:11, by Nuer Empire

              SSLA/M supporter:Welcome back brother! I hope you accept the amnesty offered to you by president Kiir and come with it.
              The Nuer Empire

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              • 7 May 2013 11:59, by SSLA/M Supporter

                Nuer Emp!
                Well, I would like you to know that SSLA/M doesn’t need any amnesty from anyone in South Sudan, but it needs a genuine political well aiming to resolve the root causes of the movement!! we all want to see a peaceful and prosper South Sudan, thus, SSLA/M doors are open for any peaceful settlement of all the issues that led to this arm struggle!! Amnesty is for criminals and not for us!!

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                • 7 May 2013 12:02, by SSLA/M Supporter

                  Sorry, I meant to say political will and not well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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          • 7 May 2013 03:34, by dinkdong

            Abyei would have been the right place we would have invaded instead of Heglig last time. Poor SPLA/M.

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        • 6 May 2013 08:55, by Wunditda

          It’s something unacceptable that UNISFA can add chilly to the paining eyes of Ayiei. Why killing innocent children? Abyiei youth must move to the area to protect the weak population there. War is becoming eminent.

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        • 6 May 2013 16:54, by viper

          We Dinkas do not boast of war at all mr Dinka warrior. Our actions speaks for themselves, not as you are saying on website. I can only agree with one man in and that is CDR Edward Lino. Edward has spoken like a man and a leader. I salute you Lino. You deserve the presidency of this Nation.

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          • 6 May 2013 17:24, by viper

            CDR Edward Lino has proved how tough he was and is today. Those words are what we expect from the leaders, not empty words like those one of Kiir and Alor. Alor is a great coward who does not care about Abyei. Hamed Alor spoke like a woman as did his boss Kiirdit plus and the pajook boys

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            • 6 May 2013 17:41, by viper

              A leader has to sacrifice his life for his pple like what mr Lino has just promised. We want leaders like this great man. He and mr Farouk Garkuoth are among the tough South Sudanese whom I do respect most. They can restore the dignity of the pple of SS that is thrown into abyss by Kiir. May God bless them

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      • 6 May 2013 06:29, by wut atem

        YOU the so-call dinkafailure,please don,t discourage the leader he know better than you do.whom do you think is best?

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        • 6 May 2013 06:44, by Mi diit

          Something I usually dislike about Salvatore Kiir is that he throws his words thinking that they will act alone and implement themselves without a follow up. Relaxing with whisky in Juba residence and dreaming of Abyei to come back one day is zero. Why don’t you form the ministerial committee under Taha and Machar as you agreed with Bashir and the ball starts rolling on fate of Abyei and borders,et

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          • 6 May 2013 06:49, by Mi diit

            I don’t think South Sudanese are ready to die in Abyei because a momentum has been lost. Now they are worried about a dictator called Kiir. Salaries for organized forces and civil servants. Corruption. Tribalism, etc. But a high level committee under the two VPs of Sudan and South Sudan can revive the memory about Abyei as they did in the Hague when the Abyei borders were demarcated by the court.

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            • 6 May 2013 07:02, by Mi diit

              So localizing Abyei issue by putting in charge of its negotiations the sons of Abyei like Deng Alor, Luka Biong, Pieng Deng, Edward Lino, etc, is a wrong calculation. It will make South Sudanese believe that the issue doesn’t include the rest. So put the two VPs in charge of Abyei file and move the nation behind the people of Abyei.

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              • 6 May 2013 07:05, by Mi diit

                I can tell you this Abyei issue needs professional strategists. Because even if it will end up in war someday, we need to be seen on the right side and fight a right war after exhausting all avenues in the eyes of the international community. We don’t need bath mouthed people who negotiate by insulting the other side. We need silent killers who win arguments on the table.

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                • 6 May 2013 07:29, by Rommel

                  Mi diit:
                  I am sure that everyone here understands that your post is not at all motivated by any concern for the people of Abyei that you may have... it is, however, inextricably linked to your perennial campaigning for Riek. Machar did not formulate any of the legal or historical arguments put forward to The Hague in 2008-9. He was merely the most senior representative to the mission.

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              • 6 May 2013 08:17, by Monydit

                @Mii-Diit
                you and your Nuers stay @Bentiu where I Left some of Nuer ysday ,for your information we have Brought Down the Fucken Mosque of Missiriya in Abyei ysday ,so they will never smell Abyei soil again my dear brother ,so tell them that your Mosque is down ysday if you are in Contact with them iknow you should be incontact bez of food lover

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                • 6 May 2013 12:18, by SSLA/M Supporter

                  Monydit
                  Stop generalization!! Mi diit is not a spokesperson of Nuer tribe, perhaps he is that of Riek Machar, So, if you are wise enough, please avoid labeling the entire Nuer tribe because of his own believes!! its your right to disagree with him and Riek Machar but you have to know they don’t represent the Nuer tribe!! Be Specific!!

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                  • 6 May 2013 14:49, by Mi diit

                    Rommel and Monydit,
                    Surely the trauma has retarded your thinking. Read my comments again and again. What did I write that brought about tribalism or Riekism? It is Bashir and Kiir who signed it there in Juba that they will form a high level committee co-chaired by the two VPs. Didn’t you know that? I am just asking them to do so and save Abyei. Of course Dr. Machar was in Hague for Abyei.

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                    • 6 May 2013 15:04, by Rommel

                      Mi diit:
                      What trauma are you referring to? I made no tribal references when I reproved you. Perhaps you should follow your own advice by reading my post again and again. "Riekism"? Did you coin that yourself? You have a long sordid history of falsely ascribing successes to Riek and this was yet another transparent attempt at attributing an apparent success to Riek.

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                      • 6 May 2013 16:24, by Mi diit

                        Rommel,
                        Calm down and read my comment again. I responded to you and Monydit. Monydit generalized the Nuer and you targeted Riek Machar, vomiting your usual dislike for him. I am surprised that you always deny Riek’s successes which are clearly known and seen. Is that not a trauma of denial in you?

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                        • 6 May 2013 17:13, by Rommel

                          Mi diit:
                          You think you’re clever, don’t you? By telling me to calm down you’ve evinced a wish to appear ascended and veritably mature. I am quite sure that I come across as calm to everyone else but you. I didn’t "target", disparage or insult Machar in the slightest... I did, however, temper your suggestion that the VP was instrumental in whatever success transpired in 2009 in The Hague.

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                      • 6 May 2013 19:56, by panom lualbil

                        MIDIIT, I hope Mr. Cowboy is not that stupid enough to assign his VP reik on ABYEI’S ISSUE for knowing reik has something to do with money, however, when mr. bribing involved he would find his leeway leaving abyei to khartoum.

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        • 6 May 2013 10:14, by Dinkawarrior

          Atem, stop your stupidity by calling me Dinka failure. Dinka never fail without achieving what they plan to do, you better thank God for creating Dinka to be among you cowardice.

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    • 6 May 2013 14:19, by SPLM- DC Hardliner

      what kiir must understand is that Abyei has been tranfered to the north by the british since 1902. until a referendum is held for them to decide where they want to be, Abyei still remains a northern territory. claims by our government must be confined to provisions of the CPA and nothing else otherwise we would end up involving in a conflict with out any justification.

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      • 6 May 2013 16:10, by Force 1

        The killing of chief need to be revenged otherwise those who did the killing will do it again to other!

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  • 6 May 2013 05:35, by Rommel

    For the sake of our lives, our pride, the expended blood of our martyrs, the cries of our children and the strength of our forefathers... STEP DOWN NOW as President. Allow the SPLM convention to be held and then allow for unfettered general elections, immediately! You are not fit to be our Sovereign representative!

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    • 6 May 2013 05:38, by Rommel

      If you wish for others to value your life you must first regard it as sacrosanct and proclaim (through actions and not words) that if attacked you will immediately respond like a confronted cobra...
      ... And that pain, iron, blood and death inescapably awaits your adversaries like the burn of the searing summer sun!

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      • 6 May 2013 05:43, by Rommel

        The people of South Sudan are very strong, formidable, resilient people, but principled, intelligent, wise, calculating leadership is crucial, because as said by Chabrias of Axione so very long ago: "An army of sheep led by a lion are more to be feared than an army of lions led by a sheep." We [South Sudanese] are lions and you [Salva] are the sheep leader.

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        • 6 May 2013 05:49, by Rommel

          The return of the Kafia Kingi enclave, Kaka, Chali, Gulli, Jebelayn, Abyei, Hofrat en Nahas, Aliiny and a plethora of others is not contingent on negotiating with the occupier... .. it is, however, contingent on years of detailed and painstaking preparation and the removal of the death-deserving myopic, ignorant, corrupt, negligent and treasonous sheep in Juba, of which you are the leader.

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          • 6 May 2013 06:05, by Rommel

            Victory demands the complete overhaul of our political leadership and of our armed forces in terms of doctrine, structure, training, discipline and military platforms and systems. Salva Kiir is it not yet clear to you that you are thoroughly despised in South Sudan from Raja to Luakpiny/Nasir and Nimule to Renk and Panyang!? Step down!

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          • 6 May 2013 06:11, by Gat Gan Kiir

            Kiir, has done nothing wrong, Abyie was sold out by its owner before Kiir was born. In addition Kiir knows that it was not SAF who carried that killing of your chief as you claimed, you better go and depend yourselves as its a fight between two tribes of Sudan. Don’t cry for help or blaming anybody rather than yourselves (Abyie). I think you understand it better.

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            • 6 May 2013 06:21, by Rommel

              Gat Gan Kiir:
              Abyei was transferred to Kordofan by the Condominium government in 1905. Contrary to popular belief, Deng Majok had no hand in the transfer of Abyei from Bahr el Ghazal to Kordofan in 1905. Abyei was *transferred* to Kordofan by the Condominium government - and not by any of the leaders of Abyei when Arop Biong (the father of Deng Majok) was Paramount Chief.

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              • 6 May 2013 06:26, by Rommel

                Deng Majok only succeeded his father in 1943. Prior to the exit of the British from Sudan, Deng Majok was afforded the choice to either rejoin Bahr el Ghazal or remain in Kordofan... .. and needless to say that imbecile disastrously chose Kordofan over Bahr el Ghazal in 1951.

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                • 6 May 2013 06:37, by Rommel

                  We don’t have a government and as a consequence this is a cross for the Dinka to bear and they should shoulder this burden by having every Dinka sub-section [large and small] contribute thousands of men each to protect Abyei. There must be absolute uniformity in this and the message must be clear: The Jok-Ngok shall not and will not fight this alone.

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                  • 6 May 2013 12:56, by Bentiu son

                    Rommel son of bitch, I told u previous that no blood from original South Sudanese people will be shed again in Abyei beside the one of 2008.Dude,don’t make commotion on cyber just organizes Abyei sons n defense your sold territory without calling others for interventions.President Salva Kiir won’t take South Sudanese people to war with Khartoum for case of Abyei till the end of his regime.

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                • 6 May 2013 07:48, by Nuer Empire

                  Rommel/Biong:Your only sickness that will kill you is the jealousy against Machar.What is the problem if Machar is doing good for South Sudanese!? Should it be considered as a compaign!? Machar will not come to power through your useless Abyei and I know how lair you are in this media.Lying to us that you grew up in the west andd thus u don’t know how to speak in Jaang/slave language.
                  The Nuer Em

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                  • 6 May 2013 08:23, by Rommel

                    I don’t burn with "jealousy" for Riek Machar, precisely because there’s absolutely nothing for *me* to be jealous about. Your admiration, commitment and devotion to the man borders on the religious... but that’s just it, isn’t it? It is *religious*. You [like many of your cohorts] actually believe that the man was prophesied to preside over this Nation as Sovereign centuries ago by Ngundeng.

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                    • 6 May 2013 08:37, by Rommel

                      You find him extraordinary because you are at the very most nothing but ordinary. Do you remember when Riek foolishly announced that South Sudan would be able to attract and draw in $500 billion in FDI over a period of five [5] years from the very same Washington-Wall Street consensus that purloined over 20 trillion dollars from the U.S. economy!? That was naivety at its worst.

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                  • 7 May 2013 12:20, by SSLA/M Supporter

                    Nuer Empire and others!!
                    I am not trying to judge Riek Machar but just simply expressing my individual view on his performance, Dr Riek (if that is true), can play a vital role in rectifying things in South Sudan given to his position as the vice President! but believe he is weakening Kiir so that he can take over the presidency from him!! otherwise his PhD is fake!!

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                • 6 May 2013 11:13, by Awei-ngok

                  Brothers,
                  the issue of Abyei cannot be abated by this messaging site other than facing its challenges at the battle front. Bashir’s government is cliqued by Islamic hardliners who only believe in no peace with South Sudan.
                  If all these pieces of advice of yours were translated into action in Abyei, we will not be talking about Abyei now. There are already South Sudanese patriots at the frontline

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    • 6 May 2013 09:30, by trinitri

      the next one will do the same, don’t worry

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  • 6 May 2013 05:38, by Ayuiu Makuac Lam

    The death of paramount chief Kuol Deng Majok Kuol will not resulted in vein. Abyei will be liberate by any peaceful mean from besides country of sudan.

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  • 6 May 2013 05:42, by JohnGarangFreedom

    It has to be any mean Mr. President. NCP is becomes a regime that constant thirsty of our people’s blood, and at the same time it has looting our land resources through wrongly claims of our people land ownership. It is time to use any "alu...r piny or ti...eny de randit...de".

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  • 6 May 2013 06:15, by wang

    Does Kiir really understand what term word “cost” meant?

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  • 6 May 2013 06:26, by wut atem

    you people,bear in mind ,when you the the article which sensitive like this don,t jok around with it. KIIR is the best among his cobinets because he is not just from no where ,he was the when poeple choose who is the suceessor for DR John Garang.so iwarn you guys don,t play with the news nations.’

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  • 6 May 2013 06:34, by Kim Deng

    The coward Jaang/Slaves have been crying for outside help instead of confronting those Baggara tribes. The Baggara will never stop slaughtering these slaves like fishes until they stop reclaiming Abyie which their father sold to the North in 1905. Shame on coward Jaang/Slaves who failed to defense themselves!!!!!

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    • 6 May 2013 06:40, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:
      "Slaves" don’t lose over a million people trying to maintain their freedom, you hateful sap. Did we defend oilfields on behalf of the Arab oligarchy!? Did we rely on their weapons, ammunition, supplies and logistical support!? Did we engage in military operations in tandem with the Arabs!? We didn’t do any of these things... but *you* know who did, don’t you?

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      • 6 May 2013 07:07, by Rommel

        The Baggara were allies of Paulino Matip during the war. Do you remember!? The people whom you call "slaves" were the majority of the fighters during the war! The Dinka absorbed most of the misery and pain on the border. Dinka Malual alone provided more troops to the SPLA than the entire Nuer tribe! The Malual Dinka had their own division — Mour-Mour division.

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        • 6 May 2013 07:11, by Rommel

          The vast majority of the Nuer soldiers within our armed forces were Paulino Matip’s men. Men that were absorbed and integrated into our armed forces in 2006 — post combat. In other words they were permitted to return after all the fighting was done, after precious blood was expended, after all the anguish and self-sacrifice!

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          • 6 May 2013 07:19, by Rommel

            Mour-Mour division captured Gogrial, Rumbek, Tonj, Aweil and many others. If the men that fought for over twenty years without oscillating between the enemy and their people are cowards, then does that make you!? What war did you fight in, Kim!? What horrors did you endure!? What acts of heroism did you commit yourself to!? I suspect none.

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            • 6 May 2013 16:28, by Gat Gan Kiir

              Camel, when are going to understand the truth? We already explain to you the reason why SPLM could not involved into Abyie rubbish claiming. SPLM is not belong to Dinka ngok who had sold it to Mis long time ago, also the killing of your uncle has nothing to do with SAF, it was tribal incident between Mis-and Ngok. Eg, when Low Nuer attacked by Murile they never cry to seek help from SPLA.

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        • 6 May 2013 08:11, by Nuer Empire

          Rommel: Digest your Abyei issue if it is not a national issue as you claimed Dinka should have to go in thousands and fight against Arabs! Where those thousand Dinka when the paramount chief got killed in the hand of civilians? Don’t disturb other South Sudanese tribes about Abyei it is just only for Dinka!! Dinka sold it to the north either.
          The Nuer Empire

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          • 6 May 2013 08:45, by Rommel

            No Empire:
            Did I ask you for your brotherhood!? NO, I didn’t! I would never have another man fight in my place as if I were a hapless child, so that he may gloat at the expense of my pride and that of my children. The Dinka can, must and will handle this matter by themselves.

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        • 6 May 2013 16:36, by Gat Gan Kiir

          Comel, sorry man you are liar, in our history the only clan in our long struggle who have a division are (Nyang clan) known as Timsa and currently division six.

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      • 6 May 2013 07:20, by wang

        Rommel
        Losing over a million through starvation is completely different from losing over a million for war...Dinka died through starvation after 1991 when the current Ethiopian government kicked their ass out in their country and failed to feed themselves when they came back home like the rest of Southerns...

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        • 6 May 2013 07:39, by LL Reuben

          Wang and Kim Deang,
          Nuer history is synonymous to the word shame. Your preposterous claim of bravery can only be discribed in the context of "boastful Slaves" as Rommel normally put it. Until to date, majority of Nuers are still directionless. Nothing has changed for Nuer in 100 years. You society is still chaotic as ever.

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          • 6 May 2013 09:34, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

            Some people need to be careful with their celebration for death of an intelligent man, and as a matter of laughs like the way I see it here and on the street of Juba from none other Nuer wicked community. Our brother was not killed by south Sudanese like many of your Nuer nyagateen got killed while fighting on the interest of Arab, he die for our land and he will be remembered as a loving leader

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            • 6 May 2013 09:39, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

              and a man that can never be label as traitor like your likes, if we have to laugher at the death of great people who never killed any southerner. Than I can just killed and happy food lover Nuer intellectual here in Juba and see if we can be laughing for now, I just went to late you power greedy Nuer food lover to know that even though we loose so badly and very sad for our love one life, I don’

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              • 6 May 2013 09:46, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                I don’t personally need your sympathy. Because you have been for no used in sudan as people leave alone that we recognised you as our brothers, but one things you should tell your massiarya kind men is that we will never rest until we finish, we know the game of tit for tat, only God will stop us from what we do batter, may death fall upon your Riek Machar for laughing on the death of my kin,

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                • 6 May 2013 11:11, by Nuer Empire

                  Dinka Dominated Wisky:Wish him anything and no surprise when your corruption Engineers leave him here with us.Well,when I look at the potential candidate in 2015,I always convince myself that Dr Riek the special one is the best man for the job.If I was at other South Sudanese houses and looking for some one to innoculate the corruption Engineers(looters),I wouldn’t leave him out.

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                  • 6 May 2013 11:22, by Nuer Empire

                    You have got one of the "Richest countries in the world,one of the best intellectuals and of the few peace loving man in the world,it ’s a hard combination to resist! "I would need some other very strong candidates out there to look elsewher and u’d have to say he ’s very much on the shortlist.Let those dogs bark! When Matip died,wasn’t you Dinka Dominated SPLA calling him Nyagat!?
                    The Nuer Empir

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                • 6 May 2013 11:14, by Ngomtoda

                  @ First of all,my condolence goes to the family of the deceased.secondly,there are element like the so called Dinka dominated SPLM.From the very beginning of creation,Nuer are the very people never been challenged by Dinka but we do belief that our co existence help you a lot in life but you will not agree shamelessly.from the so call splm,the very good participants were Nuer. we fed the hungry...

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                  • 6 May 2013 11:27, by Ngomtoda

                    which comprise Nuer sons,becoz of being at the disputed area,the most coward Dinka son called Heniken(president) of issued useless decree of withdrawal after being briefed by those fool dinka fool attendees in the false govt of Kiir since it is less concern for them it could cause them trouble of two nation fight which the dinka feared in life for good and displace them from food they are busy eat

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                  • 6 May 2013 11:35, by Ngomtoda

                    Spla with our food.that huge food made Garang to think on how to kill Nuer sons who had the courage to liberate s.sudan in the shortest time.that plot alone provoked 1991 defection with the very objective every Dinka calls to be their effort which is not.Bashier fears Dr.very well.if it is reik being president,Kartuom could never thing of all their atrocities they are doing on the adv of fool kiir

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                • 6 May 2013 18:10, by viper

                  Dinka dog, plse shut your cursed mouth full of tribalism dog. We are here to mourn those innocent pple of Abyei as South sudanese, not as Dinkas. People of Abyei have been forsaken by coward like Ahmed Alor and Luka Biong who is currently in USA. Pajook pple in Abyei are classified cowards. Long live Edward Lino and may the cowards go to HELL

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        • 6 May 2013 07:41, by Rommel

          wang:
          I should probably just ignore you, like the embittered clod that you are. Khartoum created an artificial famine that claimed 250, 000 lives in 1988-9 and a further 100, 000 in 1998. The creation of artificial famines was a feature of Khartoum’s war strategy; Bahr el Ghazal was where we got most of our troops from during the war.

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    • 6 May 2013 12:44, by Bentiu son

      Bravo Kim Deng,leave those internet warriors aka Jaang/slaves alone bro,they just call helplessly for warrior Nuer to intervene for their defense as did by Major General Peter Gatdet Yak Majiek in 2008 but when the war intensified the coward Dinka put it on Nuer sons in SPLA according to Ali Osman Mohd Tana n Luka Biong when he was a minister in Khartoum.Why gossiper called Pieny Deng collapsed?

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      • 6 May 2013 13:19, by Rommel

        Bentiu son:
        Who is asking for you here!? The Dinka were the majority in the armed forces and were only eclipsed precisely at the same time that Khartoum’s erstwhile mercenaries returned to the fold in 2006. Gadet has oscillated between Khartoum and the SPLA over a dozen times now, with the vast majority of that time spent serving Khartoum.

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  • 6 May 2013 06:39, by wut atem

    hey guys, don,t jok with the health name,s dinka.every tribe in the south sudan is health and nobody name her/his self for collective name and talk rubbish here.this message is address to who call self dinkadomminat splmand dinkawarrior those are fictition names.any tribe in the south sudan fight all in some way and no body can be dissadvantage in anyway.leader can come from any tribe in the south

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    • 6 May 2013 10:37, by Nuer Empire

      Abyei issue should be solved diplomatically not in tribal ways as I see it from Rommel aka Luka Biong.If it is a tribal land,there is no need for all South Sudanese to fight and die against Arabs! I am so disappointed by the so called Romel for his tribal words! You mobilize Dinka into thousands and fight alone.South Sudanese shouldn’t be killed for the tribal land sold in the past by its ancestor

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      • 6 May 2013 11:47, by Ngomtoda

        @ Bro Nuer Empire,leave this barking Dog called Rommel,who will pay an ear to his barking calling for dinka to retaliate. Mr Heniken(Kiir) is there barking in Juba whom later on the swell of his anus will keep quite.Let chief die like a dog beocz he is A Dinka.He was unfortunate to be born Dinka.the dinka are good at making unnecessary noise without action.let them bark there.they will rely later.

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        • 6 May 2013 11:55, by Ngomtoda

          on when the leadership is taken by brave man from the rests of the OTHER 63 tribes of SS.i lost my bro in 2008 in Abyei war let by peter Gatdet and they busy call Nuer traitors since Nuer used to fucked them in any fields which they all know.let Abyei thieves Luka Biong,Deng Alor etc go there to the SRF TO FIGHT Khartoum.foolish Dinka understand through the language of Gun thouhg Basher Generlise

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          • 6 May 2013 12:03, by Ngomtoda

            He actually meant the Dinka.Bashier learnt their cowardliness rite in the Bush where they were going to lost if not rescued by Dr.Riek who invited INTL body to intervene.this body was America which today they don’t even appreciate.one of them shamelessly is calling on America to help them in Abyei issue yet they reject(USA) on oil sector which they talked with Dr.RIEK to in hand when succeded CPA

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      • 6 May 2013 12:03, by Rommel

        Empire:
        The problem of Abyei and every other occupied territory cannot be resolved diplomatically; those who assert otherwise are being obtuse and naive. I didn’t make this a tribal issue, our brother Kim Deng did. If you [Nuer] -our closest relatives- are going to take every opportunity to disparage, ridicule and belittle the Dinka... what reaction do you expect!?

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        • 6 May 2013 12:49, by Jalaby

          Mr. Rommel,
          First of all I’ve to share my condolence with you for the killing of chief Kuol Deng Kuol, he was known to be a man of peace, believes on the peaceful living between Dinka Ngok and Myserrya and further beyond of that to the union relationship between the south-north!
          His views concurred with his brother views, Dr. Fran

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          • 6 May 2013 12:53, by Jalaby

            Dr. Francis Deng in terms of the relationship between Dinka Ngok and Messerya and Sudan in general.
            He was great loss and this type of activity is unacceptable no matter what was the motivation or the reason behind the killing but I can confirm you that all Messerya people who live in Khartoum believe he was killed by mistake and no one was targeting him in particular

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            • 6 May 2013 12:58, by Jalaby

              and the killing wasn’t deliberated at all and no one is celebrating his death but the opposite is correct, they put the responsibility on the Ethiopian battalion because they opened fire first and dealt with this issue in reckless way!

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              • 6 May 2013 13:07, by Jalaby

                By the way, I’m very confident now that you’re Dinka Ngok and not Dinka twic and your age is not 23yrs as you claimed before, the fluent English that you use and the background and knowledge you’ve are all point to one fact that you’re PhD holder and you’re Mr. Luka Biong!!!

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                • 6 May 2013 14:17, by Rommel

                  Jalaby:
                  Moi, a PHD holder? Seriously if I could blush I would so be blushing right now. LMAO! It’s all well and truly good that your humanity is intact enough for you to express condolences — albeit under a false prospectus, but your delusions are getting a tad tiresome. I am knowledgeable because I’m a voracious reader. Reading does wonders. You should consider it.

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                  • 6 May 2013 14:26, by Oppressor

                    Deg Alur & Luka Biong " should be hold responsible for the death of chief of Dinka Ngok tribe, Kuol Deng Kuol coz they are the only part who is getting benefits out of his death & spoiling the latest growing peace agreement & Trust btw South & Sudan Govt’s..

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                  • 6 May 2013 14:51, by Rommel

                    Kuol Deng Kuol was needless to say mistaken if he truly believed that his people could coexist with the Misseriya. Their family is filled to the rim with accommodating, roseate, myopic fools, starting with Arop Biong, to Deng Majok and finally to the man that writes article after article about the prospect of peacefully resolving the dispute over Abyei when this is nothing but an untenable dream.

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  • 6 May 2013 06:46, by Akoch A. Magardit

    I think we Southerners must also strongly condemn this media language which says "This proposal would effectively make the majority of voters come from the Dinka Ngok tribe, aligned with South Sudan, thus putting the Arab Misseriya nomads, who spend several months in Abyei every year grazing, not part of the voting", because prior to CPA Sudan was one and there’s freedom of moment.

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    • 6 May 2013 07:28, by julia

      so unfortunate.
      Kuol Deng Kuol (Kuol Nyareek) RIP my cousin, we didn,t expected that bad death to u, we expected u to die at the old age like keji of pajulu. But God plan ur death. That one we expecting it Homo Deng Aloor & Luka Biong. Who zapped s.sudan. Abyei fate under this two boys will be disasterious to s.sudan. My condolence to ur family, ur bro malual kuol, ur uncles in Biemnom, clame down

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      • 6 May 2013 16:49, by Gat Gan Kiir

        Julia, fuck man, whom do you wish to die rather than your uncle? If you are man don’t talk here on nets go to Abyie and face the enemy. Talk and talk will not bring your uncle back. "You can avoid reality, but you can’t avoid the consequence of avoiding reality" Abyie was sold out by your grand fathers and you must pay back the price by yourselves. I urge president Kiir to take his Whisky as usual

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    • 6 May 2013 07:42, by Oppressor

      Akoch A. Magardit Read the CPA & exactly what it was mentioned regarding Abyei Referendum & who’s eligible to Vote then comment & the CPA is not a holy book at least to Sudanese but any way What your vision less leader Gone in Vain Garang to hell signed CPA & agreed on spot about 1956 borders so stop nagging fa nothing & claiming what is not urs Abye is a Sudanese land & we ’ll not let it go you.

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      • 6 May 2013 08:13, by daniell

        This is a complete shock.

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        • 6 May 2013 08:27, by mikaddu

          Condolence Abyei citizens and S. sudan for the death great leader in such. My almighty God rest his soul in peace Even though we lose him, more wise leaders will come.

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      • 6 May 2013 08:35, by South South

        Oppressor,
        With this poor English, can you really read CPA and understand it ?

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        • 6 May 2013 08:43, by Oppressor

          Akoch A. Magardit called "Deng Majok" imbecile disastrously coz he has chosen Kordofan over Bahr el Ghazal in 1951 but i believe he meant YOU Idiot South big mouth & ur kind hopeless food beggar insect good fa nothing..hahahaha

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          • 6 May 2013 09:18, by Garang Ayiik

            Why did South Sudan failed to arm their Abyei to revenge? However,it because this is what the fuckin International community want? Where is the demarcation of 1905 of Abyei? where is the demarcation of 1916 of Darfur? and where is the demarcation of 1947 of the South Sudan? There is no International community, it is your power the international community guys workhard. Longlive ABYEI

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            • 6 May 2013 11:58, by Oppressor

              Garang Ayiik cool down man it is UNO & African Union & with the Help of AlBasheer & Sudan Govt who Respected & abide by CPA you got ur referendum & then South State why u blame them blame ur fake GOVT & why u din’t mentioned demarcation border of 1956 which agreed& signed by Garang & was a clear prove that Abyei is a Sudanese Land..so once again don’t claim what is not yours.

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      • 6 May 2013 16:22, by Nuer Empire

        Oppressor:Yeah,CPA is not the "holy book" as you the fake Arabs are known to lie.
        The Nuer Empire

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  • 6 May 2013 09:33, by pabaak

    The Bashir want to create another war so that he can start united people in Sudan around him in name of fighting foreign enemy, something he has done it before in panthou when SAF soldiers attack deep inside South Sudan and were repulsed until Occupied Panthou was retaken from them. and he declare the invasion of Sudan by South Sudan which triggered almost all out war between Sudans, now we

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  • 6 May 2013 09:43, by Albino Kuel

    Dear Citizens of South Sudan,
    Misusing of wrong words in this page will not treat all our challenges in South Sudan but let united and fight for the way forward to overcome they challenges.
    In this case, International community, UN Security council and IGAD must take serious step on the killing of paramount chief Late Kuol Deng Kuol and UNISFA soldiers and Cde Bashir must be summon by the ICC.

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  • 6 May 2013 09:57, by Yei Top

    My President!
    Ur words r always invain, we r losing our hope

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  • 6 May 2013 14:45, by AGUABO

    its not just a choice brother but a compelling condition that shall be done.

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  • 6 May 2013 14:50, by Bentiu son

    Dear comrades,some naive people among us think to annex Abyei area to South Sudan before their proposed Referendum won’t materialized for two things:
    First, Abyei people in Sudan n South Sudan should united their ranks before seeking support from their brothers in RSS, some Abyei politicians include Dr. Francis Mading Deng Majok called for unity with Sudan while those of Luka Biong, Deng Alor,

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    • 6 May 2013 14:57, by Bentiu son

      Edward Lino, Martin Majut, Kuol Deim Kuol,Ping Deng Majok n many more fifth- columnists call for annexation of Abyei to RSS either through peace democratic Referendum or military means using their brothers in South Sudan.
      Secondly, Abyei politician shown betrayal behavior towards their comrades in South Sudan headed by Dr. Riek Machar Teny who fought to free them from bandage, Arabicization n

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      • 6 May 2013 14:59, by Bentiu son

        Islamization policies of successive brutal Khartoum regime in Hague based Ruling in 2009 which demarcated the Territory of Dinka Ngok Chiefdoms transferred unlawfully to South Khordofan in 1905.Those politicians are work hard to destabilize the RSS by causing frictions or political rivalry between Dr. Riek Machar Teny n Salva Kiir Mayardit by carrying hearsay, rumors ,fabrications reports n

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        • 6 May 2013 15:08, by Bentiu son

          baseless false testimonies which make it difficult for them to get widen supports from their brothers/ sisters in South Sudan.Hence,unless those traitors change their betrayal behavior by coming to their senses,than their case will not materialized buddies.During the funeral rite,I learned Major General Pieng Deng collapsed when he saw the mourners instead of urged the Abyei youth for self defense

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  • 6 May 2013 16:36, by Mi diit

    I can really see trauma manifesting itself in some self-glorifying undemocratic people who instead accuse a tribe or particular leader of seeking to take power from a leader they mistakenly think cannot be challenged even when he is so weak, incompetent, lost vision and direction. When will they understand that leadership contest is normal and the best thing they can do is get ready for elections.

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    • 6 May 2013 16:44, by Mi diit

      There are some who still dream of kingdom-based leadership and fear democracy to death. They forget that they are in the 21st century’s democracy. Guys, you better learn to accept peaceful competition over the top leadership, or you will learn it the hard way. Just prepare to elect the one you want, and not accuse a leader who thinks he can do much better than a visionless one. Is good to compete.

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      • 6 May 2013 17:45, by Rommel

        Mi diit:
        Learn it the hard way!? That certainly sounds like a threat. You’ve certainly bridled your rhetoric as of late, but your post are never without the salient presence of tribal antagonism, threats and warmongering. I am amused by the tactic that you’re now employing. It has the veneer of civility, composure and pluralism... which you employ to appeal to other collectives.

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  • 6 May 2013 17:10, by Kim Deng

    Rommel,
    You ought to know what compelled Lt. Gen. Lion Paulino Matip in particular and Anya Nya II in general to side with arabized Nubian gov’t (NIF/NCP) at the first place. For your info, it was your Marxist-Leninist Garang and his ally Mengistu Hailemariam of Ethiopia who burned down these separatists’s HQ Bilpam to ash in 1983.

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  • 6 May 2013 17:12, by Kim Deng

    To make the matter worse, after Col. Dr. Garang’s group secured its position against Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut’s group, the seizure of Lt. Col. Samuel’s group by Mr. Marxist-Leninist Garang group did not satisfy Garang’s appetite, but went further and channeled his doom plan to annihilate the [Anya-Nya II] in Bilpam by force due to fact that this secessionists’ movement shared...

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    • 6 May 2013 17:21, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:
      I certainly agree that Garang and Kerubino did terrible, inhumane, criminal things for which they shall be judged by history and posterity... but you cannot justify what Matip did to the Nuer people. He cleared tens of thousands of Nuer civilians from their homelands to make way for oil exploration.

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      • 6 May 2013 17:27, by Rommel

        When the oilfields were cleared by Matip, the Arab supremacist, genocidal regime in Khartoum was then able to execute its war on our people [Dinka & Nuer] with devastating weaponry acquired by the exploitation of our oil. What Matip did to the Ruweng people — the people of his father (Nhial Deng Kot) cannot be justified.

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  • 6 May 2013 17:13, by Kim Deng

    the same principles and objectives with camp A. Therefore, to secure the “New Sudan,” vision fully, “the Anya Nya II HQTRs, Bilpam must be destroyed and/or dislodged from its foundation,” Garang declared. And on other hand, Mr. Mengistu Hailemariam of Ethiopia, a man who got separatist rebels’ movements [Woyane & Shabiah] in his own backyard seemed to forget that his government had her...

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  • 6 May 2013 17:14, by Kim Deng

    own chestnuts roasting in the store for it, impose his socialist ideology on southern Sudanese and that mission must be fulfilled by someone who believes in that vision; “Dr. Garang must be the right person,” according to calculation of “Dergue” regime base on its interests and bipartisan issues between the two allies.

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  • 6 May 2013 17:15, by Kim Deng

    With no regret, the Ethiopian armed forces along with few elements from Garang’s group launched an assault against the Anya-Nya II position in October 1983 which caught them by surprise. The Anya-Nya II headquarters, Bilpam was not only smashed down to ground, but many separatists’ fighters were eliminated and those who caught alive were ordered to dig out their own graves before executed them...

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  • 6 May 2013 17:16, by Kim Deng

    by firing-squad if they repudiate joining the former Marxist-Leninist SPLA/M. Of course, many deserters from the Anya-Nya II joined Garang’s group conditionally, amongst them; CDR. John Kulang and CDR. Kuach Kang.

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  • 6 May 2013 17:28, by Kim Deng

    For your info, in war it’s strategy and bravery that matter, but not the population you always claim of.
    The minority Murle ethnic group kills your coward Dinka of Mading Bor in thousands despite their useless population.
    And again, it’s only the Mighty Lou Nuer Warriors who can evict the entire coward Jaang/Slaves in Jonglei without back-up from Gawaar Nuer, Thiang Nuer and Lak Nuer.

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    • 6 May 2013 17:51, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:
      The Murle go to Mading Bor to raid for cattle and will occasionally kill a dozen here and there... but they kill the Lou in the hundreds when they attack. When I evoked demographics I was referring to the demographics within the SPLA during the war. I was not referring to tribal size. Learn to read, Kim and please start writing your own material.

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      • 6 May 2013 17:55, by Rommel

        These threats that you constantly issue are pathetic. If you think that you can evict the Dinka from Jonglei, then do it. Don’t bore us with your chest-thumping and embittered spiels. The powerful have no need to speak of how powerful they are.

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  • 6 May 2013 17:45, by Kim Deng

    Rommel,
    I don’t understand what you mean. Are you saying Gen. Matip should have turn-in himself to Garang and his friend Mengistu and be slaughtered like a goat or what? I’m very sure you know that the enemy of your enemy is always your best friend. I’m glad you admited that Gen. Matip’s forces were not only killing the Dinka, but also his own Nuer tribe who sided with Garang.

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    • 6 May 2013 18:00, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:
      You’re distorting my arguments, Kim. Matip had every right to defend himself, considering that Kerubino attacked first and was therefore in the wrong as the aggressor. Matip was terrorizing civilians who inhabited the oilfields without any relation to what side they assumed in the conflagration. Were the 80, 000 Nuer that he evicted from Unity State supporters of Garang!?

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      • 6 May 2013 18:07, by Rommel

        Don’t make excuses for his excesses. The Dinka and Nuer were both his tribesmen. His father (Nhial Deng Kot) was a Dinka from Ruweng of Biemmnom and his mother was a Bul Nuer from Mayom. Matip did what he did because it made him significantly wealthy. There can be no justification for him removing Dinka and Nuer civilians from the oilfields.

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        • 6 May 2013 18:15, by Rommel

          You still haven’t answered my questions, Kim. What war did you fight in!? What horrors did you endure!? What acts of heroism did you commit yourself to!? Your pride is based entirely on circumstances from the past, a century in the past to be precise — on battles you were not involved in, and bravery that you did not display! You like calling people cowards, so tell us of your exploits.

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        • 7 May 2013 03:06, by AUGUSTINO DENG

          Rommel,
          I agree with you, and that is the reason why I like reading your comment. Truth is truth and it can not be eradicated.
          By Augustino Deng. Jech la mer from Tharpam.

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  • 6 May 2013 18:18, by Kim Deng

    How many Nuer whose parents were Dinka one way or the other?
    Gen. Matip, Cobra William Abdallah Chuol Deng, Gatluak Deng Garang, Kim Deng...over a half of Nuer population is from coward Jaang/Slaves. Then, remaining question is, how many coward Jaang/Slaves were sold to slavery by Mighty Nuer Warriors in 1800s?

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  • 6 May 2013 18:18, by Kim Deng

    Nuer raids/invasions always resulted in the capture of substantial numbers of young women and children. Captives taken by the Nuer always includes boys, girls, and young women of
    Marriageable age, but the captives always outnumber the casualties inflicted on Dinka, Anyuak, Burun… by the Nuer Warriors. The loss of a single productive female is thus estimated to reduce her natal population by...

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  • 6 May 2013 18:19, by Kim Deng

    3.4 individuals several generations later, and to add a like increment to the population she joins. The capture of 372 young women and girls a year during the period of 1818 to 1905 would remove 32,625 productive females from the Central Dinka and Anyuak population and thus eventually decrease that population by 110,915 individuals. The capture of 125 boys a year over the same period...

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  • 6 May 2013 18:21, by Kim Deng

    The capture of 125 boys a year over the same period would decrease the Central Dinka and Anyuak population by an additional 5,250 persons. In sum, the proposed rate of capture would effectively transfer 116,165 persons from Central Dinka and Anyuak population to that of the Nuer.

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  • 6 May 2013 18:24, by Kim Deng

    The Nuer community is like the United States of America where all people are equal regarless of their background of origin. In Nuer Community there are Jaang/Slaves, Shilluk, Anyuak, Burun, Komo,...even some ethnic groups from Ethiopia.

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    • 6 May 2013 18:31, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:
      Your sense of self and pride seems to be predicated on dynamics and events that took place two hundred [200] years ago. You’re like a Mede boasting to the descendants of the Persians about how they [the Medes] exercised hegemony over the Persians prior to Cyrus the great.

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      • 6 May 2013 18:32, by Rommel

        So because your ancestors afflicted populations of the Dinka, Burun and Anyuak two centuries ago, that then automatically makes you a warrior? You’re so unbelievably pathetic, Kim. You’re living vicariously through your great-grandfathers because you realise that you’re absolutely worthless — that you’ve achieved nothing of worth or mention.

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        • 6 May 2013 18:33, by Rommel

          Kim Deng:
          Why don’t you carry out proper accredititation of a book that you insist on quoting ad verbatim? Let everyone know that you’re haphazardly citing a book that details the rather impressive exploits of your great-grandfathers.

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          • 6 May 2013 18:34, by Rommel

            I think the reason you feel the need to incessantly quote that book is the realization that the good old days of raiding the divided Dinka with impunity are over... And are NEVER to return. It’s nostalgia isn’t it, Kim Deng? In any case, your hatred of the Dinka is irrational, pointless and ultimately self-destructive.

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            • 6 May 2013 18:39, by Rommel

              There’s no population on the face of the earth that hasn’t experienced dark moments at some point in its history. What ultimately matters is not what happened to your great-grandfathers or what they achieved, but what you can do for yourself in the here and now. When did you conquer the Shilluk!? The Nuer are unable to subdue cohesive, organized societies. You NEVER conquered the Shilluk.

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              • 6 May 2013 18:54, by Rommel

                You’re trying to paint this picture in which the Nuer confronted a tribe, engaged and then defeated this said tribe without a moments waste. This was not the case. The Nuer would raid villages over a period of many months even years until they atrophied to the point that they could no longer subsist.

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  • 6 May 2013 18:38, by Kim Deng

    Ammel,
    When the Mighty Nuer Warriors of Lou Nuer declared "Kac-lora" in 2012, they danced in Pibor let alone all the surrounding villages. Had it not Dr. Riek’s advice, the entire Murleland should have been declared Nuerland like Mayom, Akobo, Gambella, Maiwut.

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    • 6 May 2013 18:45, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:
      Don’t just tell us part of the story. What pray tell, happened after that? Didn’t the Murle retaliate!? When the Murle left their post and barracks in the SPLA as far away as Bahr el ghazal and came back home, didn’t thousands of Nuer then run into Ethiopia!?

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      • 6 May 2013 19:00, by Rommel

        The lands of the Murle were unscathed during your expansion in the late 1800s because they are warlike people. The Shilluk were also left unscathed, because they too were organized. The Dinka were weak, disorganized and hopelessly divided and so thoroughly deserved the afflictions that come with the sin of weakness. Bravo to your great-grandfathers! Those days are over are NEVER to return

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  • 6 May 2013 19:18, by Kim Deng

    The cowardice Murle’s tactics of hit and run is not the war that Nuer Warriors want. The Nuer Warriors usualy warn their enemy when they come for D-day unlike other coward Jurs (Jaang, Murele, Anyuak, shilluk, Burun...) The Nuer Warriors don’t kill innocent people (children, women, old), but take them as captives instead.

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    • 6 May 2013 20:20, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:
      The Dinka, shilluk, Burun and Anyuak are apparently all cowards to you, right? So what you’re saying is that you measure your bravery by the amount of damage you have inflicted on fellow Nilotics, but not on your best friends in the North? Is that it? The truth remains: The Dinka fought the Arabs with all their heart and were the majority of the warriors during the war.

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  • 6 May 2013 19:36, by Kim Deng

    You think it was 200 years ago. What about your coward Jaang/Slaves of Warrap who claim one Payam which was occupied by Nuer just yesterday (1991?) The coward Anyuak are now reclaiming Akobo which annexed into Nuerland in 1982. The coward Burun are now reclaiming Maiwut after they were evicted by Nuer Warriors in 1980. The Anyuak of Ethio. are now complaining about Nuer occupation toward Anyualand

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    • 6 May 2013 20:08, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:
      Ah, so the Nuer appropriated Dinka territory in 1991 while the Dinka were fighting your allies — Khartoum!? How so very brave! Bravo! You also attacked the Anyuak and occupied their lands? You also attacked the Burun as well and did the same to them. Hmm, interesting. A pattern is emerging here, Kim. So the Nuer can’t live in peace with others... is that what you’re saying!?

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      • 6 May 2013 20:14, by Rommel

        The Dinka were fighting the North in 1991 and so you then took the opportunity to attack them while they were preoccupied fighting my enemy > your admitted best friends at this point. That’s not bravery, that’s cowardice at its worst. It’s also treacherous. You said before that your ancestors sold the Dinka into slavery. Who they sell the Dinka into slavery to!? Your best friends, the Arabs!

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        • 6 May 2013 20:27, by Rommel

          You still haven’t answered my questions, Kim. What war did you fight in!? What horrors did you endure!? What acts of heroism did you commit yourself to!? Give us your war resume, Kim. Stop avoiding my questions. What war did you engage in!? Others are apparently cowards to you, so please tell us of your many acts of bravery and valor.

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          • 6 May 2013 22:55, by Nuer Empire

            Rommel:You aren’t factual,you aren’t honest either.It was sure deserved contribution of self determination as opposed to United Secular vision of King Garang.Obviously,you might be instructed by your former king to deny the truth and asked senseless question from Kim! You are too old and must be mentally retarded or yeah that is the only thing u can really be(lie).We are champions of S-determ.
            NE

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            • 6 May 2013 23:01, by Nuer Empire

              You are the true lying star.What goes around come around.Your ancestors have sold and nothing should be expected else than the deaths of important people in the societies! It is everywhere.It is the taste of your own medicines! You have a team of cowards who can’t face tiny mesiriya.Whatever Nuer won,no appreciation or otherwise would be subjected to your success or hidden completely.

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              • 6 May 2013 23:08, by Nuer Empire

                It is your tactic to frustrate others in this site and make up your proud there!Is there any victory for you alone without the other South Sudanese tribes!!? Probably not.Just it happened man and organise yourselves into thousands to face Arabs alone as you said it early.I hate your lias man! You may cheat people through your vocubularies.
                The Nuer Empire

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                • 7 May 2013 13:44, by Rommel

                  No Empire:
                  Riek Machar did not deliver Self-Determination. The assertion that he did is nothing but a lie with tribal dimensions. I bet you didn’t know that on the 29th of July [one month prior to the Nasir Declaration], the SPLM/A had informed the Sudanese government that Self-Determination was to be discussed for the Abuja agenda.

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                  • 7 May 2013 13:47, by Rommel

                    This is confirmed by the works of scholars such as Ann Lech. Her book states on page 22: "the independence option was therefore included in the still-united SPLM’s proposal for the Abuja agenda that was submitted to Nigerian and Sudanese government on 29th July 1991".
                    Page 22 - ’The Battle for Peace in Sudan: An Analysis of Abuja Conferences 1992 – 1993’.

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  • 6 May 2013 19:37, by Guandong

    Its their last WAGE. they sold Abyei n being paid with the irblood. As a national army of south sudan I can’t fight Museriya civilian while they are the same civilians. What about if their army come while my army exausted with civilian, where can I get reinforcement? Let civilian fight civilian n army to army.

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  • 6 May 2013 21:21, by AUGUSTINO DENG

    Fuck you Mr.President.
    You talk when you drink.
    When we said "reclaim", it means that the oil producing region of Abyei was already given to Arabs. Salva Kiir, you are good only for wearing a cap and a long bead that you have. You are nothing and at the same time you are useless and a coward leader. A lucky leader but shallow in mind"

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  • 6 May 2013 22:09, by Kim Deng

    Rommel,
    Why would I waste my time giving all informations to someone who I won’t believe it? Was it Dr. Riek’s forces that wounded Omer Bashire at Mayom battle in 1984. Did all the liberated areas including Mading Bor, Torit, Keapota... were evacuated and/or surrendered to the enemy after the Mighty Nuer Warriors led by Dr. Riek challenged your King’s "New Sudan," vision in 1991?

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  • 6 May 2013 22:16, by Kim Deng

    Rommel,
    Why would I waste my time giving all informations to someone who won’t believe it? Was it Dr. Riek’s forces that wounded Omer Bashire at Mayom battle in 1984? Did all the liberated areas including Mading Bor, Torit, Keapota... were evacuated and/or surrendered to the enemy after the Mighty Nuer Warriors led by Dr. Riek challenged your King’s "New Sudan," vision in 1991?

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    • 7 May 2013 02:38, by AUGUSTINO DENG

      Kim Deng,
      You are stupid idiot Nuer who listen in his ass. That nasty ass so called Riek Machar never produce a battalion if you are not a nasty ass like your mother fucker Riek Machar too. It is true that Omar Bashir was wounded in Mayom,but the battalion that was fighting along in Mayom was Ghol Battalion from Muor Muor which was entirely composed of the people of Dinka Ruweng of Biemnom county

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    • 7 May 2013 02:46, by AUGUSTINO DENG

      Kim Deng,
      I thought that you know the history, but in reality, you are pseudo-intellectual personal who learn from faculty of lies. You said Omar Bashir was wounded in 1984. That was wrong. Omar Bashir was wounded on 11/20/1985. That time I was in Tharkuer with Bol Mawan of Anyanya 2. You are a liar and a liar. 1984 was the time Muor Muor came from Bongo. My friend I loss my two uncles in Mayom.

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    • 7 May 2013 02:56, by AUGUSTINO DENG

      Kim Deng,
      I totally realized today that you are a big liar my friend. When Riek Machar fought in Mayom, Tharkuer, Wiinaam, Ayot,and many other places,they only battalion with him were Ghol Battalion of Dinka Ruweng of Biemnom, Grienty Battalion (Hippopatomus)of Dinka Panaruu,Jamus Battalion of Dinka Ruweng of Biemnom and Dinka Panaruu,plus Timtha of Nuer.Those were the 4 battalions in Unity State

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    • 7 May 2013 03:02, by AUGUSTINO DENG

      Kim Deng,
      Stop lying and talk on other things which are different from politic.If you lie, then I don’t lie.I am a veteran myself.I had been in Nuer for many years.So I know some of Nuer tribes which contribute their life in war.Stop lying and being radical by giving foul information which you don’t even know about it.If you know the history,can you tell me what year was Malliny Kawaii was killed

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  • 6 May 2013 22:21, by Kim Deng

    Now, the Jalaba whom the coward Jaang/Slaves fought alone without other ethnic groups left South Sudan since 2005. When will these coward Jurs reclaim their lands back which have been occupy by Nuer since 1980s?

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    • 7 May 2013 02:58, by Nuer Empire

      Wah Kim e ngu goori hoo gonyi kone?

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  • 6 May 2013 23:59, by Kim Deng

    Rommel,
    "The Nuer are unable to subdue cohesive, organized societies. You NEVER conquered the Shilluk." Are you telling me that, the Anyuak were/are not organized under Kingdom as Shilluk?

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    • 7 May 2013 13:54, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:
      The Anyuak were not as regimented as the Shilluk and certainly weren’t as militarized. The Shilluk organized their warriors and put them on their border with the Nuer at Tonga and other places... and were thus NEVER conquered by the Nuer.

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  • 7 May 2013 01:14, by Kim Deng

    "Were the 80, 000 Nuer that he evicted from Unity State supporters of Garang!?"
    Yes, they were supplying Garang’s troops with all kind of supports, foods, moral... under the command of Dr. Riek Machar at the time.

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    • 7 May 2013 02:32, by Dinkawarrior

      It’s not suprising anyone that all Nyagateens are still celebrating the death of Dinka Chief (Kuol Deng Kuol).

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      • 7 May 2013 03:10, by Nuer Empire

        Dinka looter aka warrior:Nobody cellebrate his deaths unlike you cowards who have been celebrating the natural death of Paulino Matip Nhial

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    • 7 May 2013 14:01, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:
      You really are trying your very best to rationalize and justify Matip’s betrayal, aren’t you!? Paulino Matip Nhial was a Major-General in the Sudanese army and thus did their bidding. If they told him to clear a certain area of civilians, he would do it immediately like a dutiful guard dog. Matip was a mercenary, a traitor and a slave.

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  • 7 May 2013 04:10, by Zionist

    My heart goes to the sons and daughters of Abyei for the great loss of their chief, Kuol Deng Kuol. My belief is that he lived and died with Abyei always been in his heart and in his mind. More lives will be lost before Abyei is free, and that’s the price of freedom Abyei has to pay in order to join the motherland of S. Sudan. Infact, it’s the price no one else will pay, but the Ngok Dinka - a choice made. Freedom for everybody in Abyei, or freedom to nobody who is not from the nine Ngok Dinka - the righful owners of Abyei. Let the people of Abyei grieve silently, as they always do, let them bury their dead who are in a better place now, then we see how their response will be like.

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  • 7 May 2013 04:45, by Bany de Baai

    Nonesense but we are to make anything possible though cowards are claiming good job after beeing in post. We are there to fight Arabs as we never jointed during civil war.

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  • 7 May 2013 04:45, by Akoch A. Magardit

    @Oppressor, I agree with some of your comments and also respect President Bashir for being a gentleman so we achieved the CPA except that he is our enemy #1. However, do we continue to butcher ourselves over such a small piece of land while we have amicably accepted to live side-by-side as 2 independent states? That’s what I dispute and call for immediate cessation of coercion against each other.

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