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February 25, 2013 (JUBA) - South Sudan’s president, Salva Kiir Mayardit, said he sees no rationality in engaging in infinite talks with the government of neighbouring Sudan from which his country seceded in 2011 following a referendum under a self-determination clause in a 2005 peace deal which ended decades of conflict.

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South Sudan foreign minister Nhial Deng Nhial (ST)

Foreign affairs minister Nhial Deng Nhial said the president had met with African leaders in Addis Ababa to discuss the need to “double up efforts” to resolve the new nation’s ongoing dispute with Sudan once and for all.

Nhial, who was part of delegation accompanying the president, made the remarks after returning from the Ethiopian capital where he attended the signing of a UN-backed peace deal aimed at breaking hostilities and delivering stability in the neighbouring Democratic Republic of Congo, where M23 rebels are battling government forces in the country’s east since 2009.

“[Kiir told them - especially our African neighbours and the regional leaders who have an in-depth knowledge and understanding of our problem with Sudan - to explore ways to break infinite negotiations”, Marial told reporters on arrival at Juba International Airport on Sunday.

“The president made it very clear that it is the African leaders [who] should take the issue between and the Republic of Sudan more seriously. He told them to act instead of [supporting] infinite talks”, he added.

It’s not the first time the president has spoken critically of the constant cycle of discussions with Khartoum, which have so far failed to yield few results, telling African leaders at an African Union Peace and Security Council (AUPSC) meeting in January that it was time to “shift from rhetoric to action” and decide on a binding framework.

While stressing his country supports Congo peace efforts, Nhial said resolving the long-running dispute with Sudan was a pressing importance closer to home, asserting a trust-building process was needed to break the stalemate.

“Sudan needs to come out of rhetoric and move forward to implement the September agreement which we have signed. This is how we can build trust. Trust cannot be built by the use of violence. Trust can be built through dialogue and by honouring promises that have already been made,” he said.

“It is my hope that the Republic of Sudan will abide by international norms and make the right choice so that the trust-building process can move forward,” adding that such steps are urgently needed to tackle the worsening security situation unfolding in border areas.

He maintains no country would tolerate any action that threatens the lives of the people and the security of the two nations.

“The whole world needs peace. They need stability and this is the path we are pursuing to end the conflict”, Nhial said.

South Sudan and its northern neighbour signed a number of peace deals last September brokered by the African Union (AU) and aimed at ending a number of outstanding issues between the two countries, regarding border demarcation, setting up a buffer zone and the final status of the disputed Abyei area.

However, implementation of the agreements has stalled, amid differing interpretations of the signed deals, with a series of recent AU-led talks failing to reinvigorate the process. Both sides accuse each other of deliberately undermining the peace process and showing a lack of commitment to resolving differences.

The situation has caused a stalemate between the two countries, with Khartoum refusing to accept passage of South Sudan’s oil flows through its territories unless Juba ends its alleged support for SPLM-N rebels, which is fighting the Sudanese army in the north’s restive Blue Nile and South Kordofan states.

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  • 26 February 2013 02:43, by Tutbol

    Just forget about that damn ’safe demilitarised zone’ crap; if the mediators are really after peace in both Sudans, then they shouldn’t be pushing for another layer for future conflict. Demarcate the damn border when the armies of both countries stay where they currently are & will vacate to their final borders once the border is finally marked. That (SDZs) bullshit serves the interests of the UN govt but not the....

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    • 26 February 2013 03:09, by Tutbol

      ... interest of both S Sudan & N Sudan. The UN is trying to impose its deployment of its troops to some countries even when they are not wanted & its troops services are not wanted. Let the UN continues to impose its deployment of its damn troops this time around. They will be taken as occupiers not peace keepers whether they will be damned ethiopians, nigerians or any other damn UN’s sh?ts.

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      • 26 February 2013 03:43, by Tutbol

        This Thambo Mbeki guy & his gangs of the so-called AUHIP wisemen should be sacked & the regional body, IGAD be re-instated. Mr. Mbeki pan-africanism experiment on our country & our people’s lives is unbearable & unacceptable. He should be told to pack up his brief cases & go some where else, where he can go & do his experiments.

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        • 26 February 2013 04:31, by zulu

          Infact, AU has no money and since it depended largely on the Gadafi finance, once he is gone, Sudan has little to offer in lieu of the Lybian money. Second, Sdn was betting on the oil transit, hoping Juba’s economy was crambling, leaving it with greater leverage to muzzle its chuvenism for juba to created dmz. well, things fall appart. juba is resilient and will not back down. what’s left for ncp

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          • 26 February 2013 04:35, by zulu

            the ncp is beginning to tone down its rhetorics. in search for money to bridge the gap in 6bns oil transit, sudan is hoping now to lower the transit fees, to deter juba from pursing the LAPSAT project. This will not happen. the DMZ is likely not to happen as well with Kurmuk under the SPLA-N. NCP have nowhere to turn to now. Juba has been enboldened to remain stuborn.

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            • 26 February 2013 04:36, by zulu

              Abyei is issue to top the next talks. Not oil, dmz, four freedoms. But the border and abyei

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        • 26 February 2013 04:41, by Tutbol

          There is a european saying that goes, "a justice delayed is a justice denied" the naiveness of our govt & our mediators is quite mind boggling! Some are even lawyers & they continue to kowtow these so-called UN frican’s backed mediators when the UN & these useless mediators have shown their intentions & their true colours all along. Occupied lands are not given back free to their rightful own!

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          • 26 February 2013 07:07, by Tutbol

            ... I meant ’occupied lands by enemies are not just given back free to their rightful owners’. Look egypt isn’t giving back N Sudan land back as does ethiopia & eriteria, india & pakistan, america & mexico, china & japan, britain & argentina lands’ disputes & many more lands taken by the europeans from the indigenouses around the world some generations ago & are not being given back to....

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            • 26 February 2013 07:32, by Tutbol

              ... their rightful by the occupiers. The fact that a so-called ’safe demilitarised zones’ is very important to our wise international community mediators & their eagerness to deploy their UN troops, when their peace keepers are not wanted by the host countries, warrant a stilted eyebrow. The UN headed by our evil european friends are not interested in a durable peace in both Sudans.

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        • 26 February 2013 05:42, by viper

          Those who are holding western names as titles like Salva kiir, James wani, Daniel Awet, simon Kun, James Hoth, paul malong are just playing with the future of this nation because of their incompetence. These pple are still having the old hangover of 19th century. They don,t know that the world is in 21 century.

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          • 26 February 2013 05:56, by viper

            Those pple are having the old concept of defending on others. Look how kiir has become a great complainer to the world, a crying baby! The world needs actions, not complains. Who does he think will care of his complains? Had he once heard that borders are solved on tables? Come 2015, the Viper and his allies will do their best to get rid of European names in the palace of the great nation SS.

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            • 26 February 2013 06:06, by viper

              How come the great lions of SS turned complainers, the most feared pple worldwide? When do you think Kiir will change those attitudes? A man with very cold blood who brings those with low thinking capacity like those of Hoth Mai as Chief of General staff of our army. This nation will be a crying nation if Kiir and his cabinet of European names are not told to leave those offices of great people o

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              • 26 February 2013 08:52, by Turism

                Viper, which attitudes do you mean? and kind of European names do you talks about pliz if you don’t mind? please try to be specific to direct accurate information to somebody concern but remember south sudan is for people not for one person as you supose. there is saying "if you are not the part of sultion then you the part of problem"

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                • 26 February 2013 09:15, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                  This silly stupid dumb coward poor street son of nyagat wicked oafish doom Nassir gang leader called Riek Machar has never been in south sudan, never been in the SPLMM what does he know about war or ruling of the country, some one can play dumb and refused to know the depth of the situation he is talking about, yet they never achieve anything in their fake KPA, leave our southerner alone and go

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                  • 26 February 2013 09:20, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                    Idiot people like him believe that going to war is like going for dance but make no mistake stupid dumb poor street child that we have what it take to negotiate and fight without you. And yes if you hate European as you foolish just jump up with silly argument, why did you and your half father Riek study there? Poor ppl always don’t appreciate other ppl achievement, so go and fuck yourself silly,

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                    • 26 February 2013 10:33, by viper

                      For you Dinka dog, there is no doubt that your madness will soon send you to hell. I have never found a misbrought up kid like you in my life. I don,t even know how pple will respond to you since you only know how to insult only.

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                    • 26 February 2013 12:09, by Nuer Empire

                      You are saying and what has come into your mind Mr Dinka Dominated SPLA.That is a childish talks my dear.
                      The Nuer Empire

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                    • 26 February 2013 13:33, by Nuer Empire

                      It is amazing that even idiot calls another person idiot.You have only your empty head.What is the different between you and satan? Both of you are the same in many aspects.Both of you are destructor and invisible.Satan can be tracked down through Jesus Christ and so do you.Bark and bark all the times.
                      The Nuer Empire

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                  • 27 February 2013 06:13, by Pinyin Gatkuoth

                    Dinka Domin-SPLA why u alway including Dr macher in ur comment while not need for him in this topic?
                    are u really good in mind?
                    If u are intellectual, check ur comment Dear.
                    Silly stupid for VP is not good for u.

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                • 26 February 2013 10:18, by viper

                  It means that so called Turism reads but does not understand what he/she is reading. It is very unfortunate that pple with a very low IQ have joined this forum to keep on asking pple to explain things that are very clear to them. What are you doing on this forum if you cannot understand my message here? Please read it again.

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                  • 27 February 2013 06:34, by Turism

                    Viper, that not the case, i didn’t fail to understand the statement but i wonder the way you talks drive me away from understanding, pliz iam not as you mentioned above, i can one day tell you that interm of you are talking about am sorry that i can’t be able to talk to you as there is something driving to say so. shame on........guy.

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            • 26 February 2013 06:49, by Nuer Empire

              Viper:Bearing European names is not what matters,but the guys still have 19th Century hangover as you said it.
              The Nuer Empire

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  • 26 February 2013 06:31, by Ayuiu Makuac Lam

    President Kiir has right not to interested in the meeting with his Counterpart president Bashir as usually empty.

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  • 26 February 2013 06:46, by Bentiu Elite

    South Sudan should not waste its time on a relation with terrorists ,the old boys of BIN LADEN. They will never make any thing that put us in the good direction. The Best way to deal with them is : Let us buy good number of FIGHTER JETS, TANKS, AIR DEFENSE SYSTEMS, TRAIN OUR MILITARY ENGINEERS, MAKE OUR PIPELINE TO LAMU-KENYA , AND LET US FUCK THEM WHENEVER THEY TOUCH US PERIOD.

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  • 26 February 2013 07:22, by Pif Paf

    Nhial,
    Some people try to make the situation been Sudan and S.Sudan look like it is a difficult & complex one. From our side its very simple, once SPLM stops its support for SRF it will build confidence between the two countries that will solve all other outstanding issues without even going to Addis. If not then we can expect "infinite" talks and tit for tat maneuvers.

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    • 26 February 2013 08:15, by Robot

      Pif Paf,
      who will suffer then???, anyway those who are bankrupt with rich history of Sudan will get it hard to understand. here is the obvious fact, marginalized Africans are 40% in the North compared to 30% racially Arabs in the North, if these 40% hv risen up to claim their right, do you see any ease for them to give it up or South Sudan forsaking their brothers?????.

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  • 26 February 2013 08:45, by Turism

    President Kiir shoudn’t waste time discussing the unimplemeted agreement that were signed with sudan, Kiir would have not visit the adis ababa two time without the gunuine reason than doing other developmental activities that can help south sudan in progress. Bashir will not come to sulotion if you don’t know.

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    • 26 February 2013 09:00, by Robot

      Turism,
      going to Addis is not a problem, because it is like when you absent yourself in the court, the court will pass the verdict in your absent by either charging you wherever you could have defended yourself if you were present. so they do so if they are called by the AU.

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      • 26 February 2013 09:22, by Turism

        Robot, you are right but when will they can implement our agreement which were signed by two sudans in addis? i didn’t mean people should not at all but this going to deteriot the economic of the new nation, going and coming back without the midpoint, how do you looks at it?

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  • 26 February 2013 08:47, by Ahmado

    By the way your statment was okey but you are every blind to realise the tactic Arabs using to fail the south sudan. Mind you the current situation we are now you will not manage any agreement between sudan and south sudan because we have seen many agreement sign by you but you fail to enforce it to happen so there is no hope for future the only thing we are waiting your term to end then you go

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    • 26 February 2013 08:58, by Turism

      Ahmedo, what kind of tactic do you want tell us in this case? you mean arab is much clever than who to defeat people? only that your fucken islam is fooling you to insist in what you don’t even know to happen. please don’t talks of some tactic anymore if you have some ears or eyes.

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      • 26 February 2013 09:25, by Ahmado

        To Turism,
        you are also blind like KIIR you in south sudan you don’t how? as Dr John Garang said it before in 2005 more than 49 year struggle against Arabs without proper equipment(weapon)
        but now we are good than before what happen? people were killed in fornt their government SAF no body could other than complaining to UN, are if UN are the one soliders for south shame on you not realising bad

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        • 26 February 2013 09:30, by Ahmado

          situation in the south sudan and for you don’t mine about the entire country you only about your family like KIIR fullstop.

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    • 26 February 2013 09:06, by Ahmado

      home and your weakeness has brought many opportunities to SAF to killing people of south sudan like they don’t have government in their country and we have soliders which can wipe SAF throughout in sudan but you became big obstacle for the SPLA soliders and way to the Islamic movement and these will not happen as we are still life. we are capable to push SAF away from Boarder and these will happen

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      • 26 February 2013 09:11, by Turism

        Ahmado, are you okay or something driving you else to say unprove statement?

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        • 26 February 2013 10:10, by Ahmado

          To Turism,
          We are here discuss the problem of entire country not discuss useless comments like yours go to KIIR and loot more dollars to feed your families in abroad and leave us alone to discuss problems entire country fullstop.

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  • 26 February 2013 09:01, by New Government

    Congratulations mr president for that word,that is wasting of time fucked jalaba in Sudan and the AU will not do thing concerning s.sudan better we come together find out a way we can demarcate our border with Khartoum, rather then going to Addis Baba every time wasting money on ticket.

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    • 26 February 2013 12:08, by Both Diew Tap

      I really agreed and congratulate HE the president of RSS, the so called post-secession talk in Addis Ababa bears no result which are wasting of our damn time better off we do it in other way round.
      There won’t be peaceful borders demarcation at all with Jalaba,North, let prepare anther way of solving all the outstanding issues (Abyei & demarcation)i believe South Sudan will win this games....

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  • 26 February 2013 10:23, by Dr. Silent

    Seem to be looking good but it is very big confusion. I will remind you, What happen in Panthou is bad at the least, We all South Sudanese people, we were feel happy for the chance that SPLA got in the border but the president discourage the whole south Sudanese people.
    Anywhere, we can die, anytime, we can die.
    When did the president get the blind fool made by Arab.
    You guys you don’t feel

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  • 26 February 2013 10:45, by Lecture

    I understand why primitive person was involved in intellectual social web. Mr. Dinka dominate zero was extreme idiot man having no patriotic or prospective toward South Sudan future. Most of his comments often based on tribal critisim.Ihope you will gonna disappeare soon on the bush if you are not care ful!!

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  • 26 February 2013 13:01, by ForAll

    To all my southern Sudanese brothers:
    Dr John Garang was among the four (4) African heros who were/are looking for the unity of Africa.
    Dr John Garang said it louder in 1981 in IOWA state.
    PLS do your best to unite the peoples of southern Sudan and then SUDAN and north-east Africa.

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    • 26 February 2013 14:13, by James Ruai Gatkouth

      Point of view to you guys, please be the right persons to emphasis on the right issues, rehter then being tribalise that should alway in wrong expression being behind the right way of solidarity, automatically you are lossing your precision courage.

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    • 26 February 2013 14:52, by Nuer Empire

      Who is this fucken idiot still praising the dictator of United vision of New Sudan which subsequentially with self determination.He was a communist who couldn’t even think of United Africa.I ain’t like United Africa which seemed like a copy cat from the US.
      The Nuer Empire

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  • 26 February 2013 14:11, by Makunon

    It is a vision-less and uncivilized attitudes from president. How could you got despaired within only a year negotiation, while Dr. Garang continuous struggles upto the end despite many defections including his last exit in Yei. I believed SPLA would have surrender to NCP like Riak if he was leading in the beginning. Thanks Dr. Garang we are free at last.

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  • 26 February 2013 16:05, by Jamjamez

    This so call foreign minister in name is nothing but a dumb brother with a greate liberator name. This guy Nhial should not be a foreign minister for this nation, he doesn’t know what to do with this post. He should resign and go become something else. We don’t need somebody that has poor mindset like him and so quite that he could not construct a simple sentence or reach out to our allies.

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