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Sudan-Egypt relations hit speed bump over Four Freedoms accord

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February 24, 2013 (KHARTOUM) – The Sudanese government on Sunday expressed unhappiness with the reluctance of Egypt to implement the Four Freedoms agreement signed in 2004 despite a revolution that brought a new government to power.

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In this image released by the Egyptian President, Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi, right, meets with Sudan’s President Omar al-Bashir at the Presidential Palace in Cairo, Egypt, Sunday, Sept. 16, 2012

The head of Egyptian affairs at the Sudanese foreign ministry Esam Awad said in press statements that Egypt remains unwilling to allow Sudanese males between the ages of 18-49 to benefit from the agreement.

Furthermore, Egypt wants its citizens to have freehold ownership rights which Awad says contradicts the lease law in Sudan.

The official said the matter would be escalated to 1st Vice president Ali Osman Taha for a decision.

The Four Freedom Agreement guarantees to citizens from the two countries freedom of movement and residence, right to work and own property. It was signed in Cairo by former president Hosni Mubarak and Sudanese president Omer Hassan al-Bashir on 18 January 2004.

Egypt under Mubarak feared a massive influx by refugees or even terrorists from Sudan if the accord was implemented.

Awad also disclosed that Cairo has yet to return 100 vehicles belonging to Sudanese gold miners who entered into Egypt by mistake.

The miners were released only after several appeals from Khartoum but the equipment and vehicles remained on the Egyptian side.

On the decades-long border dispute over the Halayeb triangle on the Egypt-Sudan border, Awad said that Sudan insists on its sovereignty over the area but added that the time is not ripe for discussing the matter because of the current political instability in Egypt.

He revealed that the opening of the border crossings has been delayed again at the request of Egypt which was originally scheduled for early March.

The two countries agreed to overcome a disagreement in the crossings agreement by replacing the "international borders" clause with the "latitude line 22 ” as Sudan saw it as inferring Egypt’s ownership of the Halayeb triangle.

The genesis of the disputes over Halayeb dates back to as early as 1958 after Sudan gained independence from being ruled jointly by Britain and Egypt. The wrangle is a result of a discrepancy in the demarcation of political boundaries set by the Anglo-Egyptian Condominium and the ones set earlier by the British in 1902.

Cairo rejects any international arbitration over the area. This week Sudan’s foreign ministry said that the country’s complaint to the UNSC on Halayeb has been pending since 1958 and is renewed annually for consideration.

Sudanese officials including Bashir welcomed the overthrow of Mubarak in February 2011 and accused the latter of conspiring against Khartoum in the past.

Sudan’s Islamist government is hoping that it will have much in common with Egyptian president Muhammad Morsi who belongs to the Muslim Brotherhood’s Freedom and Justice Party (FJP).

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  • 25 February 2013 09:02, by Jalaby

    I’m really shocked by the weak leadership and poor political capability of president Morsi and his Muslim brothers who lack for political experience and couldn’t move Egypt to anywhere but Egypt is under great deadlock situation now.
    Unfortunately Muslim Brothers failed to lead Egypt due to their poor political experience,

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    • 25 February 2013 09:09, by Force 1

      Jalaby, what happened? Aren’t you capable of standing alone? Why do you want to depend on other countries for survivable? Now it sound loud and clear that South Sudan was your only lifeline for survivable!

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    • 25 February 2013 09:10, by Jalaby

      and unclear internal/external approach on how to lead Egypt and provide real solution for Egypt chronic problems. I believe Sudan is angry because last week the ruling party welcomed a group of fighters from JEM who are fighting Khartoum government in Darfour and Khartoum considered that as offensive activity from Egypt!

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      • 25 February 2013 09:18, by Jalaby

        Muslims Brothers lectured us and published many books about the "Islamic State" but they failed at the first exam when given a chance to rule, yes, it’s easy to talk and theorize but difficult to implement!
        Sudan should treat Egypt the same way they treat us and 4 freedoms shouldn’t be implemented by Sudan only but Egypt needs to do their part as well,

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        • 25 February 2013 09:28, by Jalaby

          Egypt should understand clearly that their national security lies in Sudan,river Nile means life to Egypt and Sudan owns the longest size of the river Nile from its rises in Ethiopia and Uganda and Sudan is the only country that has natural capability to completely blocks the river Nile from heading north none any of the others

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          • 25 February 2013 09:36, by Jalaby

            river Nile countries would be able to do that because of the natural fact of the land that the river Nile is running through,the water agreement between Sudan-Egypt is very old and unfair and like dividing the prey between lion and fox!
            Halieb is a Sudanese land and Egypt should accept this fact otherwise let us go to international court!

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            • 25 February 2013 14:25, by Nuer Empire

              Jallaby.I thin caa lielun ruak ke domaac mi lethleth e SPLA-N ka Kurmuk City.Cia lac!
              The Nuer Empire

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        • 25 February 2013 09:37, by Al-mezan

          Jalaby,
          Don’t lose hope, you are powerful, tell your Bashir to move his tanks to Halayeb to build up there militarily. Then use those antenovs which were bought with stolen oil money from the South, and bomb territories inside Egypt. If you do like this, and added to the already weakness of Morsi (And not Egyptian army!!!!), you will recover any territory from Weak Morsi.

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          • 25 February 2013 09:55, by Al-mezan

            Jalaby,
            If you are really a man, block the Nile. You may risk ending up a refugee in South Sudan which in your rotten brain is an number one. Why do you reject refering your disputes with S.Sudan to internation court while you call for taking Egypt to court, coward! Just listen to me" EGYPT HASN’T GONE TO ANY COURT TO TAKE HALAYEB, IT USED FORCE TO OCCUPY IT, WHY NOT USE THE SAME TO EXPEL IT"

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        • 25 February 2013 14:53, by James Maker Akok

          Jalaby,
          Yes Jalaby you are right, let North Sudan get that Land back from Egypt through International Arbitration Court that what we planning now we South Sudan to get our Lands back from North Sudan through International Arbitration Court.
          Yes, every country need their right!

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    • 26 February 2013 05:57, by ForAll

      Shia ideology is the perfect and accurate road and roadmap for the strong believers in ISLAM.
      SHIA are the ones who COMPLY WITH Islam principles based on clear and pin-point mission, vision and values

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    • 26 February 2013 05:57, by ForAll

      Shia ideology is the perfect and accurate road and roadmap for the strong believers in ISLAM.
      SHIA are the ones who COMPLY WITH Islam principles based on clear and pin-point mission, vision and values

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      • 26 February 2013 06:19, by ForAll

        The Sudanese oil minister during his meeting with Ahmedinejad said that the relations between IRAN and the Sudan are "based on Islamic principles ISLAMIC PRINCIPLES,ISLAMIC PRINCIPLES and this relationship differs in kind from relations with other countries".

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  • 25 February 2013 09:04, by Force 1

    Sudan became uninhabitable now that people want to abandon it for other countries in pursue of better life! NCP believe then; they were smart enough to do what they did in the year 2005; but little that they knew, they dug their own grave unknowingly!

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  • 25 February 2013 09:19, by cbuongdit cholkua

    North Sudan will riped off her neck cranning into other people’ territories. I bet Egypt kick them ass like they did back in the day invading them. Today is Halayeb and tomorrow Cairo will be next disputed area.

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  • 25 February 2013 09:31, by cbuongdit cholkua

    Jalaby, Egypt doesn’t need no more bedbugs, they sprayed their already; so keep on scratching yourself.

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  • 25 February 2013 10:09, by Al-mezan

    DEAR ALL,
    HAVE YOU SEEN HOW THIS WEBSITE VIRUS (JALABI) IS FRUSTRATED!! DAYS BEGIN TO TURN DARK FOR THEM. HE IS SO DESPERATE TO GO AS FAR AS SAYING THAT THEY WILL RELATIATE WITH BLOCKING OF NILE CONFLUENCE TO EGYPT. THIS IS A FLASH POINT FOR EQYPT, FOR US WHO HAVE BEEN TO EQYPT AND HAD KNOWN THE IMPORYANCE OF THIS RIVER, THIS IS A FATAL ATTEMPT BY JALABIS. FOR EQYPTIANS, NILE RANKS NO. AFTER GOD.

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    • 25 February 2013 10:50, by Jalaby

      Al-mezan,
      You foolish,did you really understand what I said? you made me laughing a lot today looool laughing
      Where did I say "WILL RELATIATE WITH BLOCKING OF NILE CONFLUENCE TO EGYPT. where you foolish man?! I never ever said that, what can I do if your

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      • 25 February 2013 10:59, by Jalaby

        poor brain understand thinks upside down,it’s completely different when you warn someone from messing with your national security and treats you equally because you can do the same thing to him and start killing him immediately!!
        You foolish have to know what ever happen we will never ever block the river Nile from Egyptians nation because simply they’re our brothers

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        • 25 February 2013 11:08, by Jalaby

          and sisters and our blood is mixed with their blood and we share with them the same values and same destiny but that doesn’t give our brothers in Egypt the right to diminish our rights and underestimate our crucial position regarding their fate!! what a poor minded person who understands things upside down?!

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          • 25 February 2013 11:39, by Al-mezan

            Jalabi,
            You have not been to language school to know what is meant by SUMMARY AND LEXIS, out of ur complaint is a summary of -threat to relatiate by controlling the Nile whose biggest part is claimed to br owned by you. You seem to have changed your bitter tongue towards Egypt may be the reasons best known to you. If u r one with Egyptians as u put, why complain of taking Halayeb case to court??

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            • 25 February 2013 11:52, by Al-mezan

              It is a waste of time to make a mountain move, as the holy ayat put " the arabs are very hard in disbelief and hypocrisy and more dispose not to know the limit of what Allah has revealed to his Prophet and Allah is omniscient. 9:97" I preserve not to insult u since it is not a description of a matured person. U r the most hypocritc person on this site, and u must not be allowed to go indisciplined

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              • 25 February 2013 12:25, by Jalaby

                Al-mezan,
                I bet you still did not understand anything from what I wrote above and all you understood that I’m calling for our government to block the river Nile from heading north!! I really can’t help you on this, as they said before "Al-faham Gesam" - "Understanding is segment", what a poor minded person?!

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                • 25 February 2013 13:43, by Al-mezan

                  Jalabi,
                  Y shy away from words u utter by yourself? The words r there as long as this site continues to publish n I invite every one 2 go thru them so as to rule out any misunderstanding. I doubt u may at the end admit being drunk and request forgiveness. Ur days r numbered, ye exploiters of Allah and his Prophet’s (PBUH) religion. KEEP ON DISGUISING, IF NEW DAWN SPARES U, JAHANAM AWAITS U. FA’SEG!

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                • 25 February 2013 13:45, by Al-mezan

                  Jalabi,
                  Y shy away from words u utter by yourself? The words r there as long as this site continues to publish n I invite every one 2 go thru them so as to rule out any misunderstanding. I doubt u may at the end admit being drunk and request forgiveness. Ur days r numbered, ye exploiters of Allah and his Prophet’s (PBUH) religion. KEEP ON DISGUISING, IF NEW DAWN SPARES U, JAHANAM AWAITS U. FA’SEG!

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                  • 25 February 2013 13:59, by Al-mezan

                    Jalaby,
                    where on earth can a nation has problem with her neighbors and you claim to be God-fearing Islamists! It is good that you are already reverting ur tongue, Egyptians affairs are meddled with, ask Israelis they will tell the case of sinai. Halayeb is a flash point. Unless u sit down with them as ikwuo/shwarkaa fi lwaita (partness/brothers in homosexuality) to work out the issue homosexually.

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                • 25 February 2013 14:10, by Kushoku

                  Jalabi not only almezan doesnt ,lm sure everybody doesnt cuz what u saying always something beyond imagination and good sense expectation!can u plz tell us how u gonna block the Nile from running northward?if u already discovered this magical equation would u plz convey it the chinese,americans and the brazilians so they can utilized it to divert their river coz they have alot of floods every year

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                • 25 February 2013 15:04, by Peacocktail

                  Lam Akol Ajawin nicknamed himself as Jalaby,,,,,,, You confusing poisoning the relationship of both Countries, South Sudan, Egypt and North Sudan. Lam Akol/Jallaby, who told you that Egyptian shall suffer if block Nile waters, God had purepose of keep Egyptians alive. You have betray and poisoned South Sudan relationship with North Sudan. Failures of all Agreements with Khartuom is based on you.

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                • 25 February 2013 17:10, by panchol

                  jalaby.
                  How can your thugs SAF fight two strong countries ie: Egypt, South Sudan and other visionary rebels and political forces in Sudan.

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              • 25 February 2013 14:28, by Mandakoro


                small correction, holy ayat point to ala3rab not the arabs ya mezan.thanks.

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                • 25 February 2013 16:13, by Al-mezan

                  Mandukoro,
                  There are so many tafsirs, in musahab alshrif, al aarab are referred as "desert dwellers" and if we look at the time when Holy ayat were lowered down to Prophet Mohammad (PABUH), we note that pple wo dwelled in deserts were arabs.
                  NB. Your correction is welcomed, there is debate on religion, thanks.

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          • 25 February 2013 16:10, by Paul Ongee

            Post sensible comment when it comes to dealing with Egypt, your God, who sits militarily on Sudan’s resources in Halayib but Sudan keeps folding its tail inside as usual? But when it comes to the issue of Abyei and other Arabized names of the disputed areas along the N-S- borders, Sudan struggles to demonstrate its poor manhood that it can occupy them militarily.

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            • 25 February 2013 16:19, by Paul Ongee

              Who is really telling you that it is easier to occupy land belonging to South Sudan than getting Halayib Triangle back from Egypt? Never be misled. You will regret making any military move. Never attempt to send new innocent recruits of PDFs who will never find the alleged keys of meeting their virgins in heaven from South Sudan.

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  • 25 February 2013 14:14, by Pif Paf

    Relationship with Egypt should not be a priority at the moment. There is alot that we need to settle with Egypt most importantly Halaieb. Unfortunately our brother took advantage of Sudan’s weakness and took Halaieb by force. This is not forgotten. However we need to settle our southern borders first and then deal with these snake Egyptians.

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    • 25 February 2013 15:58, by Al-mezan

      Pif mok,
      Egyptians are snakes of genius Cobra while the South are of genius adders. Go back to elm al zawahif- study of reptiles, these are the worst types of snakes. Be reminded that pif mok is an insecticide- mubeid al hasharat and not snakes.

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  • 25 February 2013 16:56, by panchol

    Pif paf & jalaby.
    Egypt is a true African child and has been doing great excellent work in this continent compare to government of terrorists in Sudan who has been committing crime against its people.

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  • 25 February 2013 16:59, by panchol

    Pif paf & jalaby.
    Egypt is a true African child and has been doing great excellent work in this continent compare to government of terrorists in Sudan who has been committing crime against its people.

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    • 25 February 2013 18:37, by James Maker Akok

      Panchol,
      Panchol, Egypt is a main problem for South Sudan, Egypt doesn’t want South Sudan to be another Country independence State in Africa. Be careful what you talking.

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  • 26 February 2013 04:27, by BM Bol

    I feel sad for Sudan. This is too low for them.

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