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January 29, 2013 (JUBA) – Talks between South Sudan’s president, Salva Kiir, and his Sudanese counterpart on the implementation of last year’s cooperation agreement has made no progress, an official said Tuesday.

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South Sudan’s Salva Kiir and Sudan’s Omar al-Bashir (Reuters)

Emmanuel Lowilla, the minister for the presidency in the South Sudanese government told journalists that Khartoum placed new demands as a pre-condition for the implementation of the 27 September 2012 agreement the two countries signed in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia.

The minister, who accompanied Kiir, to the recently concluded African Union (AU) summit, said a deadlock arose over the demilitarised zone in the "Mile-14" area and the composition of members from the two countries on the Abyei Legislative Council.

According to Lowilla, Sudan is pushing for a 50% representation in the council, as opposed to the previously agreed 40%, arguing that in the past they accepted the 60% held by South Sudan because they were one country at the time and wanted to promote the idea of “attractive unity”.

“They [Government of Sudan] also want the "Mile-14" area to extend up to Abiemnhom [county] in Unity state and Raja in Western Bhar al Ghazal state. This is contrary to the agreement that defines "Mile-14" as the area between Dinka Malual and the Rezigat tribes,” Lowilla told journalists in the capital, Juba.

The minster further urged members of the international community to intervene so that both countries can reach a peaceful settlement over outstanding issues.

However, Sudan’s chief negotiator, Idris Abdel-Gadir, on Tuesday, ruled out the possibility of referring the disputed issues between the two countries to the United Nations Security Council (UNSC).

Addressing the press in Khartoum, Abdel-Gadir accused foreign powers of pushing the Sudanese government to accept UNSC intervention, and instead predicted an extension to the mandate of the African Union High-Level Implementation Panel (AUHIP) on Sudan and South Sudan after the end of its current term.

Meanwhile, in a meeting held at the level of heads of states and governments on 25 January, the AU Peace and Security Council (AUPSC) declined demands by Kiir, who wanted the disputes with Khartoum referred to the UNSC; a matter already considered in the past.

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  • 30 January 2013 06:47, by JohnGarangFreedom

    Eye and eye on, not people, not land right ownership, it is just all about trying anything to loot South Sudanese resources by Khartoum’s government. What they are doing now is wasting time so that they will continue to luring oil and other resources from those areas. They know the truth yet the evil heart of resources’ greedy don’t allow to accept the truth. The old say, "too much greedy backlash

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    • 30 January 2013 07:24, by Mach

      Khartoum still in shock that South Sudan is really gone out of Sudan and the only thing that left in the mind now is to cling to South Sudan border territories that had nothing to do with Sudan. Sudanese became so mindless that they believe these regions; Panthou, Abyei, Abiemnom and the rest are theirs! How sad. We all know Sudan lost South Sudan and that doesn’t mean Sudanese would be that crazy

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      • 30 January 2013 07:41, by AUGUSTINO DENG

        Mr.Mach,
        What you said is true.By the way,I want to mind you that Omar Bashir is a lucky guy amongst those who are lucky. Abiemnom, the county of Dinka Ruweng is the main oil region in South Sudan followed by Panrieng of Dinka Panaruu. If Omar Bashir get Abiemnom,or Salva Kiir gives 14 miles, then Omar will come again and get 14 miles from Panrieng.If Omar get those 28 miles, where is South Sudan?

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        • 30 January 2013 08:00, by Hardball

          Bashir keep holding these endless meeting with President Kiir; he believe he can threaten Kiir to give up those border regions but I am glad that President Kiir is hold his ground to not be intimidated by anyone.

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      • 30 January 2013 07:49, by AUGUSTINO DENG

        I can not blame Omar Bashir. The blame comes from Salva Kiir, the one who was so quiet and give Omar Bashir more inches to expanding his land. It is a lack of political senerio from Salva Kiir. What I know we Southerners w did not lost our land, but we lost a great leader. As a result,it seems that God didn’t like us, and I don’t know why he did that and he was the one who created us?
        By Augustino

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        • 30 January 2013 10:29, by Turism

          Augustino,
          My you cant stop blaming mr. Bashir but soon if it come to reality, this endlessness decision come from fucken bashir if you dont know. let not blame our govt of being guiet otherwise.

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          • 30 January 2013 11:40, by AUGUSTINO DENG

            Mr.Turism,
            Omar Bashir know what he is doing. Now, One of the reason why I said that Omar Bashir know what he is doing is that; every time when there is a discussion between him and Salva Kiir, the subject must be something within South Sudan. Salva Kiir never have a subject concerning about the North,which meant Kiir’s is a "bonehead". Omar Bashir is a leader even if I know that he is my enemy.

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          • 30 January 2013 11:46, by AUGUSTINO DENG

            Part to the comment:
            Omar Bashir is very clever enough that he has to find a subject within South Sudan to discuss so that Salva Kiir should forget about the outside problems and deal only with the problems of the South. Salva Kiir’s mind was already been studied by Omar Bashir. That is why Salva Kiir Miyardit is so naive to Omar Bashir. Quote me right my dear.
            By Augustino Deng.

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          • 30 January 2013 13:38, by nuer food lovers

            waaw! this is what i one time said is not intellectual to run s.sudan affairs.what is the reason of making Abiemnom a disputed area now?is it becozs.to make oil flow throuhg hyaenas country northern sudan.now if u accept Abiemnon a disputed area extension of mile 14 from far west Awiel where is Abyei here?where is Twic Mayardit there?.fake Arab re joking.to hell with them,no miles 14 extension,,,,

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            • 30 January 2013 14:13, by nuer food lovers

              to Abiemnom,no oil flow through northern sudan,kiir kuethpiny Mayardit,what what is wrong sir?.u re destroying s.sudan.mile 14 is% belong malual-gernyang.Abiemnom is For Ruweng of Biemnom.u let sudan took Toor Aliny through Abyei boys,now u what to Abiemnom again to fake Arab,the imbicile gay.where do u expect us to go?unless u turn us into fish,then put us in kiir loi Ayuel.

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              • 31 January 2013 01:28, by Lotodo Awino Odug

                Both KIIR and RIEK ARE FAILING US.NEXT WEEK THE ENTIRE SOUTH WILL BE A DISPUTED AREA.SPLA LED BY NUER AND OWNED BY NUER EQUAL DOOM COWARDNESS.

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    • 30 January 2013 08:24, by Jalaby

      To Donkey who called himself JohnGarangFreedom,
      You’re really a good example for fully close minded person, just tell me,how Khartoum will still be able to steal south oil while oil fields at your home and closed?! your government ministers are the real thieves who stole $4bn during the daylight!

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      • 30 January 2013 08:27, by Jalaby


        Be honest, I personally don’t mind to steal money from a donkey person like you if I could because if I don’t steal it someone else will come and steal it anyway because you’re a donkey!!

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        • 30 January 2013 10:35, by Turism

          Jalaby
          People of south sudan are donkeys bse if so khartuom would have not insist in them during separation, tell the truth and the truth set you free, stop lying if you soundminded person.

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        • 30 January 2013 11:01, by Paul Ongee

          Ya Northern Banaat/Sudani Inti/Jalaby/Master
          Note that the condition beyond the Chief Oil Thief’s (COT) control contributed to “its” inability to pay arrears is the loss of 75% of oil revenue to South Sudan on July 9th, 2011. Setting preconditions of 50% share for Abyei Legislative Council (ALC) and the controversially included Mile 14 in the September agreement is unacceptable.

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          • 30 January 2013 11:02, by Paul Ongee

            AU made a mistake for including “Mile 14”into the so-called “Cooperation Agreement” as if CPA was never meant for “cooperatively” resolving issues or implementing all the CPA Protocols on a timely basis. Why Mile 14 was not in the CPA of 2005 and recently brought up by Sudan without AU questioning the reasons.

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            • 30 January 2013 11:03, by Paul Ongee

              Sudan believes that it can easily get the AU attention off the agenda when it comes to the issues of demarcating the border between South and North. What it should do is to create a condition out of blue which can easily become a basis of negotiation. Sudan knows how much time will be spent by AU/UN on negotiating the newly created agenda besides Abyei issue or its domestic issue/SPLM-N until 2015

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              • 30 January 2013 11:04, by Paul Ongee

                Sudan knows that AU is extremely weak and is always struggling to say the simple word “No”. The coup-addicted country knows what, where, when and why to set precondition at its disposal on the pretext of focusing attention on its new demands hoping to get the focus on the main agenda completely lost.

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              • 30 January 2013 11:06, by Paul Ongee

                Sudan knows that AU is extremely weak and is always struggling to say the simple word “No”. The coup-addicted country knows what, where, when and why to set precondition at its disposal on the pretext of focusing attention on its new demands hoping to get the focus on the main agenda completely lost.

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                • 30 January 2013 11:08, by Paul Ongee

                  This is how the fourth fake black Arab class regime in the Middle East rules and survives within the Arab League, Africa continent, IGAD, AU, UN and international community. Otherwise AU/UN and international community would continue dwelling on endless demands constantly created by Sudan for its political and economic survival.

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                  • 30 January 2013 11:09, by Paul Ongee

                    With the ICC arrest warrant, Sudan is ready to commit suicide with any neighbor of his choice. South Sudan replaced Israel to become enemy number one of Sudan. The word is used in the context of separation and loss of resources. The current political and military attitude is just to alert the domestic and international audience that “I am still here surviving the separation syndrome”.

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                    • 30 January 2013 11:10, by Paul Ongee

                      Sudan has been and is still able to continue shuttling to Addis Ababa for endless negotiations, committing war crimes, violating human rights internally and externally, denying humanitarian access to the war affected IDPs with impunity in the presence of opposition forces, regional and international community.

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        • 30 January 2013 15:04, by Rezingving monynok

          heey yaa humar Jalaby
          it is you who known as donkey , ask your elders and they will narrate this to you bitch .awlad amira or humara (sons of donkeys). you know how to lie kill and to loot things , now your mad donkey representative to UN , was banned from voting . because you donkey did not get any chance to steal from South Sudan `s oil , shame on you guys , donkey is a donkey ,

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        • 30 January 2013 19:12, by JohnGarangFreedom

          Jallab, you just kidding yourself. Do you truly one of the reasons why South Sudan had shut down oil. And now South Sudan trying to install tracking device for their oil. The answer it is because your government is stealing oil.

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      • 30 January 2013 19:12, by JohnGarangFreedom

        Jallab, you just kidding yourself. Do you truly know one of the reasons why South Sudan had to shut down oil. And now South Sudan government is trying to install a tracking device to that they can catch the thief from Sudan’s government. The answer it is because your government is stealing South Sudanese oil.

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      • 31 January 2013 08:50, by Otong

        talking about economic war against South Sudan, it actually economic war against yourself, South Sudan economic is getting stronger everyday just check the status of your currency against South Sudanese currency!!! I was in border areas between South and North I was surprise to see that Jalaba like you in thousand are trying to get in to South Sudan, how about your nomads Arabs who are in thousand

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      • 31 January 2013 08:50, by Otong

        talking about economic war against South Sudan, it actually economic war against yourself, South Sudan economic is getting stronger everyday just check the status of your currency against South Sudanese currency!!! I was in border areas between South and North I was surprise to see that Jalaba like you in thousand are trying to get in to South Sudan, how about your nomads Arabs who are in thousand

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    • 30 January 2013 16:07, by Ito

      Brothers,
      We south sudanese are shallow thinkers. Mile 14 in reality is a land belonging to messirya tribe in the North. It is not a land of south sudan. Even Abyei if you go deeper in sudanese history is a land of arabs. I am south sudanese but it is very important to tell the truth. Bible say the truth will set you free. I am a member of splm party but i don’t agree with their wrong demand.

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      • 31 January 2013 07:21, by Hardball

        Ito, I think you forgot other regions to be Misseriya territories as well; those are Jonglei, Lake, East, Central and western Equatoria. The bible said tell the truth and the truth will set you free

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    • 30 January 2013 18:36, by Johndumo14

      In the Koran it says don`t ever Negotiate with an Ifidel.
      Even if you become a muslim but you are a black man stil the arabs called you Infidel.Even Omar Albashir said openly in public that he will not negotiate with insects in afril 2012 when SPLA took over Hegelig,so how will you expect a fair negotiations from him. They have to fight a war which one must win in order to respect one another.

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    • 30 January 2013 18:36, by Johndumo14

      In the Koran it says don`t ever Negotiate with an Ifidel.
      Even if you become a muslim but you are a black man stil the arabs called you Infidel.Even Omar Albashir said openly in public that he will not negotiate with insects in afril 2012 when SPLA took over Hegelig,so how will you expect a fair negotiations from him. They have to fight a war which one must win in order to respect one another.

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    • 30 January 2013 18:38, by Johndumo14

      In the Koran it says don`t ever Negotiate with an Ifidel.
      Even if you become a muslim but you are a black man stil the arabs called you Infidel.Even Omar Albashir said openly in public that he will not negotiate with insects in afril 2012 when SPLA took over Hegelig,so how will you expect a fair negotiations from him.Khartoum thinks they will win SPLA in case of war,but that is a big MISTAKE.

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    • 30 January 2013 19:13, by Johndumo14

      Now if war broke out between Juba and khartoum,SPLA WILL TAKE KHARTOUM IN A JUST A MONTH,SPLA JUBA AND SPLA-NORTH ARE READY
      ONLY WAITING ORDERS ,AND THE WORLD WILL BE SURPRISED,THE PEOPLED KHARTOUM HAD OPPRESSED FOR SO LONG,HAVE THE TOOLS NOW TO REMOVE THEM FROM POWER,JUST WAIT AND YOU HEAR AND SEE.

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  • 30 January 2013 06:49, by wang

    I was impressed by the way Kiir was staring that criminal President on this picture. That what we want to hear, no progress on talks, Khartoum has burned herself a lives since they have refused our $ 3-4billion offers plus other packages on tops,

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    • 30 January 2013 07:33, by bianaathling

      Mr.Cowboy you believe it not Bashit will not respect any agreement is just wasting our time.you better make up your mind and use another alternative.

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    • 30 January 2013 08:14, by Nuer Empire

      Folks:Don’t you know that Khartoum criminals trust AU than UN? AU is a biased Organization and you can see these criminals blaming international communties especially the West. Our gov’t should find the alternative of fighting and bringing back our looted areas before it is too late.Too many negotiations with no solutions will not help.
      They are trying hard to loot.
      ***The Nuer Empire***

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  • 30 January 2013 07:25, by AUGUSTINO DENG

    Omar Bashir is completely right, because he get 14 miles from Aweil, and now he wants to get 14 miles from Abiemnom(Biemnom) county of Dinka Ruweng of Unity State. I don’t think whether this will be possible. If Salva Kiir Miyardit makes a mistake again like what he did in Aweil, then Omar Bashir will need another 14 miles from Panrieng county of Dinka Panaruu of Unity State.
    By Augustino Deng.

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  • 30 January 2013 07:33, by AUGUSTINO DENG

    I hopes Salva Kiir need to open his eyes at this time. Signing 14 miles will not stop Omar Bashir from what he is doing. Omar Bashir purpose is to take the whole South Sudan and annexed it back to the North. Abiemnom County is a county of Dinka Ruweng, which is located in Unity State, and not from the North. This is how Omar Bashir is trying to expanding his Northern territory.
    By Augustino Deng

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    • 30 January 2013 11:07, by New Government

      Kiir Should stop wasting time on talks with Bashir,rather than making another alternative pipeline.let think wise what can be possible.

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  • 30 January 2013 07:37, by 4Justice

    Ofcourse we all know there won’t be any progress! what did you expect from shifty wanabe Arabs? what were you doing since 2005 in terms of preparedness in the likely event of such a senario? make no mistake your diabolical enemy is constantly looking for any weakness he can exploit, you should have known better.

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  • 30 January 2013 07:39, by Akolde Nhiak Jinub

    Talks re endless with Khartoum thinking each day 4 begaining. AU is becoming another shallow organisation 4 no use. Send everything 2 UNSC. Or else South Sudanese shld prepare 4 muscles test 2 take what is ours. History has it z borders r never agreeable without blood. Gud E.g. is Ethiopia n Eritrea border issue. What happens till today. Ethiopia still occupies Eritrean land n UN n AU do nothing!

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    • 30 January 2013 08:00, by Robot

      KHARTOUM’S "PLAN B" IS BEING ENFORCED WHILE WE STILL STICK TO THE TALKS, ANYWAY WE HAVE TO DO IT (GOING TO ADDIS) BECAUSE IF WE CAN’T, IT IS LIKE MISSING OUT IN A COURT CASE AND THE LATER IS CONVICTED IN HIS/HER ABSENCE. CONTINUE NEGOTIATING BUT GO WITH A MINDSET OF TACKLING ARAB’S "PLAN B" AND THEIR DELAYING TACTICS OF WAITING FOR THE COLLAPSE OF GOSS WHICH IS DREAM!!!!!.

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  • 30 January 2013 08:02, by Manyok

    This article was published on January 39, 2013. Okay. It looks like a new calendar.

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  • 30 January 2013 08:38, by Jalaby

    To Thieves,
    Look thieves, AU will never move this issue to UNSC where America imposes your solution and forces Sudan to open the oil pipeline, you should rule out that assumption completely and think wisely and behave diligently thieves!

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    • 30 January 2013 08:50, by Jalaby

      You want Sudan to have only 40% of Abyei council seats and you get 60% after separation!! are you kidding us thieves or what?!
      Look thieves, all the lovely baby treatments and concessions that we used to give you before separation are gone for good and will never ever come back again, we only think and interested on what benefit us: yes our oil fee transition is very

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      • 30 January 2013 08:56, by Jalaby

        very high compare to international standard transition fee but that’s our fee if you don’t like it then go to hell, now on, no good or any stuff will come to you through Port Sudan city for free as before, you need to pay high fees upfront in hard currency this time otherwise go to hell!
        No one will cross the border from south and enters Sudan without visa entry

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        • 30 January 2013 09:05, by Jalaby

          and should have justifications such as:why you need to go to Sudan?for what purpose?your address there?how long you want to stay?etc
          Look thieves, now you’ve only 2 options to choose:
          1. Comply to all Sudan demands without any foxy game, or
          2. Face the slowly death by the economical war that Sudan is imposing on you now!!
          America can’t help you now,stop crying!!

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          • 30 January 2013 09:30, by Nibs

            Jallaba,
            You should go to mental institution,right away.you are damn sick.

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          • 31 January 2013 08:44, by Otong

            Jalabi and Northerners,
            Your language it’s a clear indication that you are crying for the loss of the South Sudan oil, please when you talk about building roads and dams in north, Did you ask yourself where was money from? the answer is From South Sudan Oil. Since separation Your North Sudan couldn’t build any roads or school, your economic failing, just check the Monitory Fund articals on Sudano

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        • 30 January 2013 11:34, by South South

          Jalaby is very sick, please leave him alone.

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      • 30 January 2013 15:51, by Hardball

        Jalaby, the question is; who gave you 40% in the first place? Abyei is 100% South Sudanese region. The idea that you’re dreaming of 40% in that territory is just a wishful thinking. This is the same way you keep claiming that you don’t want oil from South Sudan through Sudan when no one in South Sudan had any intention to transit oil through Sudan.

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  • 30 January 2013 09:26, by pabaak

    I hope no progress because enough that we gave up so many inches of land to jalaba, such as Panthou and other territories which are rich of minerals and other natural resources, there is no way we waste our time in negotiations that does not yield any results, we better focus on how to get these areas to us as soon as possible. AU and UNSC all are working with what please criminal government in

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    • 30 January 2013 09:35, by pabaak

      Khartoum, see since CPA, criminal government keep dragging their feeds not willing to fully implement all outstanding issues of CPA because they find it that no body paying attention to it violation of CPA, once was said that after Jan 14 this year, the issue of Abyei could be referred to UNSC but we find AU again supporting criminal government by allowing more time for useless negotiations so

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      • 30 January 2013 09:38, by pabaak

        that the criminal government will continue to loot our resources in Panthou and Abyei, this should stop immediately, and this will happen by closed this useless negotiation infinitely.

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  • 30 January 2013 10:34, by Makunon

    What a lie raised by Khartoum, what is connection between making unity attractive and administration of disputed area. they should have absent themselves to attend the meeting instead of talking liars in the forum if they don’t have something tangible.

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  • 30 January 2013 14:02, by nuer food lovers

    Hon.Emmanuel lowiila thank u for making this tremendous ugly words from mountain gorrilas of northern sudan known publicly before it is too late.u re very courageuos like,Hon.John Luk. Iwas so sorry for my typing era to put some ugly words against him.
    Now fake Arab re forcing us (s.sudan) war but later their gays arm will run like ghazall.eg in Heglig war.

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  • 30 January 2013 19:15, by JohnGarangFreedom

    Jallab, you just kidding yourself. Do you truly know one of the reasons why South Sudan had to shut down oil. And now South Sudan government is trying to install a tracking device to that they can catch the thief from Sudan’s government. The answer it is because your government is stealing South Sudanese oil.

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  • 31 January 2013 04:21, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

    Uncle Kiir is so innocences of not knowing the routes conflict between Africa and Middle Settlers. Only to take African by using their Islamic Ideology to behind fool African convert to islamic. Instead to fight for total Land return back,Arab still wanted to take whole country. coming to Biemnom! Arab will be out in Khartuom soon. Dinka must claim,Kartuom,Chedi,Asbara mainland North Kuch

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