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Is Dinka Bor against Dinka Bahr el Ghazal?

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By Zechariah Manyok Biar

January 8, 2013 - The killing of Isaiah Abraham and the anger it generated in Dinka Bor Community has made some people wonder whether Dinka Bor now see Dinka Bahr el Ghazal as their enemies. Ateny Wek Ateny of Northern Bahr el Ghazal who gave a speech on behalf of opinion writers on January 4, 2013 during the memorial service for Late Isaiah Abraham organized by opinion writers said this: “The killing of Isaiah has driven wedges amongst communities; the government was made to shy and bite its tongue in disgrace, for the fact that it has failed to protect writers; the forces of darkness might have clearly celebrated that the Dinka Communities would be dividing along clans Bor vs Dinka Bhar El Ghazal. The detractors treat government to be synonymous with Bhar El Ghazal as a region. However, for us as opinion writers in South Sudan, this equation is wrong. Our communities command a very brilliant understanding of what is meant of a government.”

This is a very important point to look into. In fact, Ateny was not the first to say this. In my article entitled, “Who killed Isaiah Abraham?” published by Sudan Tribune on December 5, 2012, a day Isaiah Abraham is believed to have been killed early in the morning, I wrote: “When I visited Isaiah father’s house today, I saw the anger I have never seen from our people. This means that damage has been done to our loyalty to the system. Whoever did the killing has succeeded in causing suspicions among our people.”

Both my point and Ateny’s point do not mean that Dinka Bor and Dinka Bahr el Ghazal have now become enemies because of the killing of Isaiah. What we are saying is that the killing of Isaiah has caused the loss of trust between the two major Dinka regions. Ateny was even more to the point when he said: “Whilst the killing of Isaiah by unknown gunmen has landed South Sudan in the abyss of mistrust amongst South Sudanese and their government, his assassins are made to rethink their strategies.”

What I called a “suspicions among our people” is the lack of trust or mistrust caused by the killing of Isaiah Abraham. What looks like an enmity between Dinka Bor and Dinka Bahr el Ghazal is not enmity but the loss of generalized trust. I have observed that the loss of generalized trust leads to the loss of particularized trust. Bor members who have very closed friends from Bahr el Ghazal, for example, now do not confide in them because they do not know who is associated with the system and who is not.

As a reminder, I would bring it to the attention of brother Ateny that the system is often associated with the region or the community the President comes from. It was true when Dr. John Garang was the leader of SPLM/A. He was often associated with Bor Community whenever something bad had happened, but not when he had done good things.

If the above is what we believe, then it means that the loss of trust in the Government means the loss of trust in the community the President comes from. This is not a good way of looking at things but it is a reality we have in South Sudan. We will, however, work hard to change it so that individuals are held responsible for their crimes, not the community they come from. Even failing leaders must be held accountable as individuals, not as part of a community.

Even though it is a practice in South Sudan to associate leaders with their communities, it would not be true to think that people from Bor would consider the people from Bahr el Ghazal as their enemies.

The way that things are done in Bor is that we study the situation first before arriving at a long term decision. That is why we are known for “wait-a-minute” behavior. The decision that most of us have now arrived at is that we do not trust the President and his associates, the organized forces and the National Security at the generalized sense of the word. It is only the army that most of us still trust as the protector of the people. Yet, we still trust individuals within the organized forces and the National Security.

When Isaiah was killed, it took us some days before deciding that the above mentioned institutions are not trustworthy. I wrote this on December 5, 2012 in an attempt to prevent the above situation: “It would be very important for our Government to find the killers to know exactly why they killed Isaiah so that we are convinced that the killing was not politically motivated. Otherwise, the anger I am now seeing will remain in us for a long time.”

The Government did not understand my point until after many people in Bor and other communities concluded that some elements in the Government might be responsible for the killing of Isaiah and, therefore, should not be trusted. It will now be difficult to convince most of us on the sincerity of the Government in dealing with the situation until we see concrete evidences.

People from Bor are often seen as unforgiving, but that is not true. We treat different situations differently. What we hate mostly are the politically-motivated killings and the terrorist-like killings. The killing of Isaiah fits both.

When we in Bor find out that anybody or any community practices the above killings, we distance ourselves from such a person or a community for long time until we see changes in them. To prove this, take your time to study what types of killings are common in Bor. Study also the incidents of killings people talk about in contempt in Bor and the community fighting which takes a long time to be solved. You will find what I am saying above.

Having said the above, people from Bahr el Ghazal are known. They do not come from the same community. There would be no reason to generalize them. We know very well that most of the communities from Bahr el Ghazal, including many people from Warrap State where the President comes from, are against the killing of Isaiah Abraham. Why then should anybody generalize them as enemies of Bor people?

Besides, we in Bor have not yet concluded that the Government was directly responsible for the killing of Isaiah Abraham. What we are not happy with is that it looks like the Government was first trying, until pressured to act otherwise, to cover up something when some elements within it threatened or even attempted to kill additional writers. Yet, we still treat the problem as a Government problem not Bahr el Ghazal problem.

Even though we know the people who attempted to kill some of us in December, 2012, we still believe that they were sent by some people in authority. It might not necessarily be the President. It might be people who think the hand that feeds them would lose power because of our writings, not knowing that our writings would help that hand retain power for long time.

Despite the fear expressed by some people that Bor would now regard their brothers and sisters from Bahr el Ghazal as enemies, I should say the opposite is true. The reality is that most of us are still waiting to know who was behind the killing of Isaiah Abraham and the attempted killing of some of us. We will take these people as individuals, not as Dinka Bahr el Ghazal or any other community they come from.

I should conclude here that Dinka Bor will never see brothers and sisters from Dinka Bahr el Ghazal as enemies even though the level of trust now damaged will take a very long time to rebuild.

Zechariah Manyok Biar can be reached at manyok34@gmail.com



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  • 9 January 2013 10:08, by jay b

    I agree with you buddy. There is no such feeling among good people on both side. Only idiot people feel that way, even though we lost very important writer the whole world admired his writing. The govt will bring shame to the people of this very young nation in which we are not going to be respected around the world, becuase we don’t know how to rule. So rest in peace brother Isaiaah Abraham.

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  • 9 January 2013 10:34, by nyantung

    Hello, Monyok: I don’t think it’s only a Dinka issue, but an issue of South Sudan governance. If it is only a Dinka power struggle, what has genuinely changed from North Sudan/Arab rule?

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  • 9 January 2013 12:48, by siddaw

    Yin ca leec Manyok de Biardit ne wel pieth-kuon cake luel. These aliak are not our enemies, although they valued their glutonic stomoch better than our gallant participation in bringing this nation into a current period of contentment.
    Only the gap btn us as so far decrease.
    I won’t trust in them any longer although i have the whole of Bar el Ghazal friends. The gap btw will limits everything

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    • 9 January 2013 14:37, by Mapuor

      Siddaw
      Don’t kill yourselves and blame it on innocent people who are not benefiting from the current government.The government is dominated by Dinka Bor which is only a clan.Dinka Bhar El Gazal are more than 50 clans one of which is the same with Bor.Are, Malaak Ayuen,Majak Agot,Mac Paul,Bior Aswot,Philph Aguer,plus countless generals from Bhar El Gazal?.Twic/Bor problem shouldn’t be exporte

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      • 11 January 2013 10:22, by Big Boy

        Dear
        Slowly make an effort to find new ways to respond to situations that bring you down. If someone comments negatively about enemies, tell them you had appreciated their keeping those kinds of comments to themselves and affirm to yourself,u love and accept yourself as you are. Responding from a place of self-love instead of feeling deeply wounded takes some of the sting out of their word.

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        • 11 January 2013 10:27, by Big Boy

          Dear AKOOK
          By being frank in life, you may get lot of enemies…but surely not fake friends.those who are saying they don’t truth or mistruth people’s of Bahr El-ghazal let them go the hellllllllll!! from now on!

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  • 9 January 2013 14:14, by Mapuor

    What does this phrase imply?’even though the level of trust now damaged will take a very long time to rebuild’.It implies that Bor community have lost confidence in their brothers from greater Bhar El Gazal.Its extremely ridiculous,why?During Garang rule for twenty one years highly educated officers from Bhar El Gazal were killed under Garang direct orders but Bor community was not held

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    • 9 January 2013 14:20, by Mapuor

      responsible for the merciless and barbaric killings.Hoooo the article is confusing.Isaiah killers are from security organs that are dominated by Dinka Bor.Go to Bilfam and find out for yourself,go to uniform services and find out for yourself.Hooo education will never solve human problems but instead it will aggravate them.Stop being judgmental please.

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  • 9 January 2013 15:14, by Akolde Nhiak Jinub

    Bro. Zechariah, it is great piece. Although ur article is a testimony of what’s lingering in many minds of Bor community members. Ur conclusion z killing of Isaiah has now damaged de level of trust betn communities of de two regions of Jonglei & Bahr el Ghazal is too dangerous 2 our current mindset. If u were 2 ask hw 2 conclude ur article, it wld ve bee z his death shld make his killers 2 rethink

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  • 9 January 2013 22:35, by James Maker Akok

    To all Southerns Sudanese people,
    We know Dr. John Garang killed our Leaders of greeters Bahr Al Ghazals, and Nuer Leaders. That was very too worst in Dr. John Garang leadership but President Kiir should not follow the ways like what Dr. John Garang did for killing our leaders.
    We need president that doesn’t threat to kill us and we need peace without killing each others.

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    • 9 January 2013 22:39, by James Maker Akok

      I mean, greater

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    • 10 January 2013 19:09, by panom lualbil

      JAMES MAKER AKOOK?
      If DR GARANG would lost war to arab, there wont be any leader to fight arab sucessfully like of SPLA. Or if DR RIAK had won war against Garang, he would have got money and stay low profile. So Garang killing of stabbers was what led him to win. Remember, revolution by DR RIAK, DR LAM, GERBINO and likes were about self-interest. You shouldnt killed your mom or robbed civilians

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      • 10 January 2013 19:11, by panom lualbil

        for foods to be anything in this world.

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      • 11 January 2013 15:44, by James Maker Akok

        Panom Lualbil,
        Be careful of what you talking here. Everybody should agree and condemn for what our leaders did for bringing conflict among us if we want really peace among us.
        What Dr. John Garang did of killing those leaders brought up the feeling when someone talk like a way you talk now.
        I don’t want president Kiir to follow Dr. John Garang way leaders killing.

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  • 10 January 2013 04:27, by SouthSudaneseviews

    What a stupid person from Dinka Twic (Twic East County). You are become one those slaved person to Dinka Bor (Bor County).

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  • 10 January 2013 04:28, by SouthSudaneseviews

    What a stupid person from Dinka Twic (Twic East County). You are become one those slaved person to Dinka Bor (Bor County).

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  • 10 January 2013 04:28, by SouthSudaneseviews

    What a stupid person from Dinka Twic (Twic East County). You are become one those slaved person to Dinka Bor (Bor County).

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  • 10 January 2013 06:16, by Mapuor

    Mr Biar
    Thousands of students who are now sending billions of dollars to Bor from diaspora were taught by Dinka Bhar El Gazal.The war that brought you to light was exclusively fought by Dinka Bhar El Gazal.When Nuer decided to wipe out Dinka Bor from the face of the earth Dinka Bhar El Gazal stopped that and taught the Nuers bitter lessons that Nuers will never forget.Is what you have writen

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    • 10 January 2013 06:18, by Mapuor

      the only reward that you can offer to your liberators,your educators,your saviors?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Kasaraaa

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      • 11 January 2013 07:19, by Mangoor

        Mapuor, stop your lies. Dinka from Bhar el gazal never fought for Dinka Bor. As a matter of fact, it’s Bor who fought for you. How? Dinka Bor fed your people back and forth on their way to Ethiopia. Koryom Brigade that was dominantly Dinka Bor spearheaded the past civil war n showed unwavering bravery by capturing Jokow, Malual Gahoth, Boma, MadingBor, Yirol, Aluakluak, Thiet, Tereka, etc

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        • 11 January 2013 07:29, by Mangoor

          The capturing of the towns i mentioned was completed before people from Bhar el Gazal never got arms to fight Arab. The bravery shown by the sons of Dinka Bor encouraged majority of youth from South Sudan and Nuba Mts to join the war. It was the first time in the history for South Sudan rebels to capture towns from trained army of Sudan government. Garang de Mabior was the sole provider of arms.

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          • 11 January 2013 07:36, by Mangoor

            Dinka Bor continued to contribute toward the war using its own people and food from the beginning to the end. where did you get your facts that tells you Dinka from Bhar el Ghazal liberated Bor? You are the type of liars who caused hatred among the sections of Dinka. people from Bhar el Gazal fought for their own liberation. any patriotic person who fought in the war cannot deny that.

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            • 11 January 2013 07:44, by Mangoor

              keep in mind that people of our greater Bor Dinka will never allow you to lie or still our history just like that. I can tell you the truth in your face, no matter how numerous you are. Remember, During the time of civil war Dinka Bor fought Both Arab, Naser faction, Aringa, etc. We resisted them and inflicted untold casualties until the CPA emerged. So do not bully us by your numbers.

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      • 11 January 2013 09:43, by Lotodo Awino Odug

        Mapour also lied about being the educators of our children from pinynido and Dima.Majority of the teachers were from Bor,they mostly got their education during the time of Abel and Elijah Ajith Mayom.so all you had mentioned above are your guessworks,Mr Mapourdit.

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  • 10 January 2013 06:49, by Manyok

    Dear brothers, Your comments are showing nothing more than what I wrote about. You do not force people to trust or mistrust anybody. It is a psychological issue that comes automatically because of an event that disappoints you. The question I expected reasonable people from both sides to ask is: How do we build trust if it has been damaged? Calling me names does not help. Think hard.

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  • 10 January 2013 06:54, by Manyok

    In addition to the above, my brothers and sister, it is always better to understand something before jumping in. I laughed hard when the so-called Born-to-Rule said that he stopped from reading the first two paragraphs of the article and then he had the courage to comment on an article he had not read. Is that a way we rule a country? I do not think most of you who comment under my article got it.

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  • 10 January 2013 06:59, by Atungdiak

    This writing has no substance, whatsoever. If people like Zackeria are the key writters of RSS, then we are doomed. How many other South Sudanese have been murdered of late in Juba? Are there only two Dinka sections in RSS? How do you equate a region against a small community ? How can you simply Isaiah’s death to be a community rather than national issue? Change your thinking or stop writing

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  • 10 January 2013 07:04, by Manyok

    Last, and this is it, I believe beyond doubt that most of my articles have been suggesting ideas for better delivery of services to our people. Ninety percent of my articles supported the Government. Ask why I am different now towards the Government I am part of. If you think the way you are ruling the country is good for you, then pursue it. History will be the judge.

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  • 10 January 2013 08:46, by Bazinguaboy

    Agreed you may have rightfully sought to dispell rumours of a Bor-Bahr-el-Ghazal rift, but pitching this whole article on the you vs us really adds more fuel to our tribal politics. I am not from the Dinka ethnicity but count Abraham and all others who struggle for a better South Sudan as a South Sudanese brother in the first place.

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    • 10 January 2013 08:51, by Bazinguaboy

      Abraham’s struggle is a struggle of the people of all ten states of our noble country and his killers remain at large. His murder is an issue greater than an ethnic issue and I would like to believe that South Sudan remains greater than the sum of any single tribe or ethnic group. I hope I am right in this.
      And, brother Biar, keep on sending those comments - I am a loyal reader.

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  • 10 January 2013 10:13, by WendeMajok

    Intelligence Vs Ignorance.
    I have realized that most of you just grab the heading of the article and rush with trivial comments without analyzing the general concept. Let me finger point, Mr. Mapuor, Akook & others in this comment thread are myopic indeed to post such naughty comments...Manyok Biar’s article is very clear, he mentioned that people shouldn’t perceive it as enmity between

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  • 10 January 2013 10:30, by WendeMajok

    Dinka Bor and Dinka Bhar El Gazal and if you are wise enough then it would be a mistake to generalised the Dinka Bhar El Gazal because its comprised of so many clans and who are not even beneficiaries of this government. Lets talk sense sometimes, leave your arrogance and chauvinistic behaviors out, I appreciate your comment Manyok—the wise will take it right and the fools with meander with it.

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  • 10 January 2013 14:34, by Mi diit

    Brothers and sisters,
    First of all I am neither a Dinka Bor member nor from Greater Bahr el Ghazal. I am a Nuer by tribe. However, the killing of Isaiah Abraham saddens us all in South Sudan and this is a good lesson to any of Dinka communities that people should not cover up weaknesses in a system just because the President is from your community. Evil always backfires to practitioners.

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    • 10 January 2013 14:38, by Mi diit

      What I mean, for example, is that many brilliant people were killed in Juba before Isaiah Abraham but the Dinka Bor leaders have been silent thinking that it was non of their business until it knocks at their door. They did not want to accuse the system, the President or his community over those countless killers because they were ok with the collective cover up of poor Dinka leadership.

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      • 10 January 2013 14:42, by Mi diit

        Although the Dinka Bor feel humiliated by Dinka Barh el Ghazal in the system which they believed John Garang brought into existence, they exercised the "wait-and-see" attitude thinking that the Bahr el Ghazal will rethink and give Dinka Bor their expectations in goverment. Now that the waiting is too long and killings of Bor members ensued, the eyebrows are wide opened.

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        • 10 January 2013 14:46, by Mi diit

          Greater Dinka Bor members are more politically active than the Greater Bahr el Gazal are have a strong coordination and cooperation. Salva Kiir is still in power as a Dinka because of quality of Dinka Bor’s support to safeguard the Dinka power. Other communities who want smooth change do not want to violently interrupt this collective Dinka community’s lust for more power.

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          • 10 January 2013 14:50, by Mi diit

            But it is very clear that the Dinka Bor have difficulty to directly take over power from Kiir’s leadership because of many hurdles I don’t want to mention. Kiir has always been an ally to Nuer who control the army. The SPLM hirarchy is another hurdle for Dinka Bor. They tried to drive a wedge between Kiir and Machar but failed in plan A. They could look for plan B now. The matter is serious.

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            • 10 January 2013 14:59, by Mi diit

              Dinka Bahr el Ghazal have soft guaranteed unconditional followers of Dinka Bor’s leadership since 1983. Even when Garang was killing their educated politicians they had their heads down. Only Dr. Amon Wantok had the courage to write a book about Garang’s murders in Nairobi. Other Bahr el Gazalians condemned to exposures. Garang reacted spending tens of thousands of dollars to buy off the book.

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              • 10 January 2013 15:02, by Mi diit

                Garang made sure that the book was bought off from all the book shops in Nairobi and all its copies burnt to ashes. Now for the first time the Bahr el Ghazal commentators are reacting to Zechariah Manyok Biar’s article by revealing that Garang killed their leaders too if Manyok blames Kiir’s leadership for the killing of Isaiah Abraham. That is a new phenomenon with the promised "mistrust."

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                • 10 January 2013 15:06, by Mi diit

                  Unless Kiir gives 6 ministerial positions to the humiliated Dinka Bor next time, I don’t see how the "mistrust" will be remedied as wished by Manyok. Maybe Manyok has my suggested 6 ministerial positions in mind. But guys, stop all these cover-ups which backfire. Let us work for a common future which can be good for every South Sudanese and not for clans.

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                  • 11 January 2013 08:07, by Mangoor

                    Mi Dit, i partially agreed with your analysis. It is true that Dinka Bor is not interested to take leadership from Salva Kiir. The reason is let’s wait n see as U stated. Our frustration is that Dinka from Gokrial and Tonj specifically have developed the attitude of seeking favoritism from Salva kiir by gossiping, vilifying, and even lynching members of Dinka Bor for unfounded suspicions.

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                    • 11 January 2013 08:14, by Mangoor

                      Honestly, Dinka Bor does not expect the leadership of RSS presidency to return to them soon. Bor expectation is that the presidency should move from greater Bhar el Gazal to greater Equatoria, and other parts of greater upper Nile. However, politicians from Nuer and greater Equatoria are hesitant and afraid to take it from greater Bahr el Gazal for the fear of unknown.

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                      • 11 January 2013 08:24, by Mangoor

                        it is clear this president, his cabinet, and the legislature have failed to delivery services to the needy citizens of this country. You can tell that Salva kiir has failed to deliver what Dr. Garang was able to delivery when there was no resources. I sometimes ask why did some people complained and rebelled against the leadership of Dr. John Garang while Garang was not distributing any resource?

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                        • 11 January 2013 08:31, by Mangoor

                          My question to you Mi Diit is why Did the Nuer politicians who used to try to overthrow John Garang decide not to seek presidency now? This is the right time to take presidency from a president who is performing poorly.

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                          • 11 January 2013 09:17, by Ruach

                            Lol Mangoor. Nuer had no intention to overthrow Grang,but they wanted him to reverse his ideology of uniting Sudan which he accepted at last. Self Determination was the only cause. Presidence shall come to Nuer,but not by force only democracy shall hand it into their hands and lead smoothly

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                            • 11 January 2013 12:29, by Lotodo Awino Odug

                              Where have you been? Ruach of Akobo river.your stupidities were missed by readers.

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                          • 11 January 2013 09:25, by Mi diit

                            Mangoor,
                            Good question. As I commented earlier Kiir is in power partly because of Dinka Bor’s support to him and their dislike of Machar because of 1991 incident. Equatorians and other tribes I should say want leadership change but fear to lead it themselves. They want the Nuer to lead it. The Nuer do not want to repeat the 1991 political differences with the Dinka which turned violent.

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                            • 11 January 2013 09:31, by Mi diit

                              So the Nuer have decided to temporarily ally with Kiir until when other Dinka clans, particularly the active Dinka Bor, see that it makes no sense to prevent peaceful change of Dinka leadership. And this goes with the fact that they should accept Dr. Riek Machar and forgive past divisions. Otherwise the Nuer will not accept to remove Kiir from power if past differences with Dinka Bor still persist

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                              • 11 January 2013 10:41, by Mangoor

                                Mi diit, i can really sense u r honest person. I want to tell u that Dinka Bor will never take a lead in this path of taking power from Salva kiir. Your politician will wait until they get old.
                                second, Dr. Riek should not worry about Dinka Bor if he has a chance from other states. the man has apologized already. I believe he will compensate the damage he did only if he becomes a president.

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                                • 11 January 2013 10:50, by Mangoor

                                  Riek will be able to do more for the orphans, widows, disable and others to repair the damage he did.
                                  Ruach, u r ignorant my friend. Dr. John Garang might have been talking liberating the whole Sudan but he never refused to recognize any person fightng to liberate S. Sudan. For your information, SPLM/A of Dr. was still liberating towns in S. Sudan when all Nasir factions when to share with NIF

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                                  • 11 January 2013 11:02, by Mangoor

                                    Maybe, u were a child but be informed that Dr. John Garang was busy mobilizing and arming the SPLM/A after Nasir faction defected and departed. That is why SPLM/A recaptured Kapoeta, Torit, Yei, Rumbek, Tonj, Warab, Gokrial, Kurmuk, Kor Yabus, other garrisons across South Sudan. This is the true liberation of South Sudan or self-determination.Dr. Garang was masterminding this struggle.

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                                    • 11 January 2013 11:07, by Mangoor

                                      the capturing of these towns was the most significant pressure which forced Sudan Government to accept peace negotiation and self-determination.
                                      It is not going and beg Khartoum regime for self-determination. No one is young or ignorant to be confused between liberation and lust for power.

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                                      • 11 January 2013 12:23, by Lotodo Awino Odug

                                        you have won the arguments with good reason today,keep up mr Mangoor.by Loko El pollo,the brain man.

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                            • 11 January 2013 12:20, by Big Boy

                              Dear Miit & Mangoor
                              Both of you have Fair arugment to Dinka Bor.Dinka Bahr El-Ghazal people get behind your President and SPLM/A and stop blaming Dinka Bahr nor Dinka Bor for every bump in the road.what i know now Equartorian are much better, but infact they are cowads they can’t stand.they have to stand on their own two feet and stand up for themselves.

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                              • 11 January 2013 12:27, by Big Boy

                                If not,why don’t fight their right, why they wanted Nuer to lead the fighting to dinka, There are those that would give anything to see them fail, but you must never give them the satisfaction. Hold your head up high, smile and stand your own ground as worries fighter, i remember during Karbino kuanent in Wuruck,if we were Equaro..they could have finished us!but we manage to drove them out of Tura

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                                • 11 January 2013 12:32, by Big Boy

                                  Turalei,Wuruck and Agok south of Abyei!and Equart..run run up to Uganda Kenya and DRC..and then came back now to claim that dinkas are occopy the government, while they were enjoy eating casava and Cucas meat.

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  • 11 January 2013 13:25, by Mi diit

    Mangoor,
    To be honest with you, I do admire the smartness of Dinka Bor in politics and how they organize their thinking and move together. The Dinka Bor have the ability to make something "wrong" look "right" by the power of their strong arguments, which is bad sometimes. But they are an organized group who always want to reason above others. Dinka Bor also know how to appreciate their allies.

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    • 11 January 2013 13:31, by Mi diit

      On the other hand, Dinka of Greater Bahr el Ghazal are political grabbers who do not even appreciate their allies when in power. Like in the case of Gogrial where the president comes from, I don’t see that they appreciate the fact that Dr. Riek Machar has allied with Kiir for long and helped him in many ways to keep him on the throne. They think they can simply continue to lead by default and luck

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      • 11 January 2013 13:37, by Mi diit

        Dinka of Bhar el Ghazal are disorganised politically and not smart in laying down strategies for their future survival. Even when things have now overwhelmed Kiir’s leadership, they are not able to think of exit strategy in which they can smartly handover power to their closer ally, such as Dr. Riek, who can maintain their alliance and protect Kiir if out of power. Luck and default is their motto.

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        • 11 January 2013 15:20, by Robot

          Midiit & mangoor,
          your argument is to the points. i just want to tell Ruach, with his writings, he looks like somebody big in the govt or a misinformed lost boy... i can comment more but this topic is unworthy. "THANKS TO THE COMMENTATOR WHO SAID ISSIAH’S KILLING WAS A NATIONAL TRAGEDY AND NOT FOR DINKA BOR". My advice to everyone, know very well whatever we write in this domain has a severe impac

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        • 11 January 2013 16:43, by Mapuor

          Midiit
          Don’t try to falsify the history.Keribino Kuanyin was the first senior military officer to reject the transfer of 105 battalion to the North,he is there fore the founder of the SPLA.In 1988 Nuers who were mostly Anya-nya two joined the SPLA and stayed in the SPLA for only two years and defected back to Khartoum in 1991.

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          • 11 January 2013 16:49, by Mapuor

            As for our brothers from Bor, after Nuer incursions on their land in 1991 they stopped fighting and fled to Kakuma till they returned in 2005 when the CPA was signed.Hahahahah its good to witness the out come.Who among you was in Mathon Bai divison,Achondok Division etc?

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            • 11 January 2013 17:31, by Lotodo Awino Odug

              write the achievements of your divisions,carrying guns for decoration is the reason YauYau will finish your kids here in Jonglei.We Bors fought and defeat enemies.like the Battle of Jonglei canal with Athor’s fighters.Athor would have reached you in Juba if we didn’t took his case as Bor Isue.we may be cowards but at least smart one.keep entertaining yourself on the site.but remember your communit

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              • 11 January 2013 17:34, by Lotodo Awino Odug

                y dominated signals and others noncombatives services during the struggles.

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                • 11 January 2013 18:01, by Lotodo Awino Odug

                  Mapour,stop annoying people here always,The sucesses of spla in Kaya,Parajok,Achwa and mugali were by few Bor commandoes and a tast force,whom majority were from Koriom2 and gradel batallion.yes you fought the war,but not for Bor’s cause.

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  • 11 January 2013 18:59, by Kenyang

    Bro Manyok,
    What happen to Isaiah Abraham is something bewildingly rejected by any South Sudanese anywhere. To narrow this collected tragedy as something to do with Dinka Bahr el Gazal against Bor is disappointing. And for ur info, Bor is not equivalent to entire Bhar Al Gazal. Gogrial or so can be.

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