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Bashir-Kiir summit ends with agreement on implementation timeframe but no breakthrough

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January 5, 2013 (KHARTOUM) – The presidents of Sudan Omer Hassan al-Bashir and his South Sudanese counterpart Salva Kiir agreed on implementing several outstanding items pertaining to Abyei, cooperation agreements and the disputed areas but without resolving any of the long-standing conflicts.

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African Union mediator Thabo Mbeki (L) and Ethiopian Prime Minister Hailemariam Desalegn address a news conference on the outcome of the Sudan-South Sudan summit in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa January 5, 2013 (Reuters)

The two leaders met in Addis Ababa since Friday night at the invitation of the Ethiopian Prime Minister Haile Mariam Desalegne for discussions on the implementation of the cooperation agreements signed last September as well as the contentious issues of Abyei and contested border areas.

Khartoum has long insisted that there can be no forward movement on any of the sticking points without Juba ending its alleged support to Sudan People Liberation Movement North (SPLM-N) fighting the Sudanese army in the border states of South Kordofan and Blue Nile.

Juba denies Khartoum’s accusations and calls for executing the agreements and particularly the one regarding oil exports given the dire economic situation in both countries.

The landlocked South Sudan was meant to resume oil production last November with the first exports to hit markets by January. But Sudan’s insistence on implementing security arrangements first hindered the resumption of oil production in the newborn nation.

South Sudan is to pay Sudan to route its crude through northern pipelines ending a row that led to the shutdown of the entire southern output of 350,000 barrels a day.

Following a series of meetings on Friday and Saturday in the Ethiopian capital the African Union mediation team released a statement announcing an agreement on the establishment of Abyei Area Administration, Abyei Area Council and the Abyei Area Police Service.

The two sides are to continue negotiations on the final status of Abyei and the issue of the referendum and eligibility criteria.

Sudan rejected a proposal submitted by the AU mediation and supported by the AU Peace and Security Council (AUPSC) which calls for the holding the referendum next October without the participation of the Arab Misseriya tribesmen.

The AU had demanded a solution for Abyei by September and then said it would make a binding proposal before giving the parties until December 2012 to do a deal.

Both countries are also to implement the cooperation agreement particularly the security portion and the mediation team will come up with a time matrix for that on January 13th. The latter is the date when the Joint Security Committee will meet.

It was also agreed that the work of the Joint Committee on the establishment of demilitarized zone would resume without delay. The committee met in Addis Ababa last December agreed to set up the buffer zone and resume talks this month. At the time the Sudanese defense minister Abdel-Rahim Mohamed Hussein said Juba agreed for the first time to discuss their relationship with SPLM-N.

The AU mediation team also said that Kiir reiterated his pre-independence position that they severed ties with SPLM-N but it was not clear whether this would be a sufficient assurance for Sudan. Kiir would soon respond to a mediation letter with respect to this issue.

In press statement made following the return of the Sudanese President to Khartoum, Sayed al-Khateeb who is a member of the government negotiating team said Bashir and Kiir agreed on disengagement between the SPLA in South Sudan and 9th and 10th divisions in the Blue Nile and South Kordofan.

He pointed out that the two leaders held direct talks which resulted in a "good" outcome.

Al-Khateeb denied any addition or amendments to the September deals stressing that the two countries only agreed to speed up implementation.

The mediation said that Khartoum and Juba will proceed with demarcating the agreed-on portion of the borders which is estimated to be 80%. Kiir and Bashir would meet at a future date to discuss the remaining areas.

The border areas have witnessed increased tension particularly in the South Sudan state of Bahr el Ghazal which was a target of raids by the Sudanese army attacking alleged rebel positions of SPLM-N and Darfur insurgents.

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  • 6 January 2013 09:38, by master

    believe me
    no oil flow

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    • 6 January 2013 09:59, by Dinkawarrior

      The only agreement we want to hear is border demarcation, solving Abyei issues, and No Oil to the North.
      Mr. Cowboy, you need to be careful at this time. Don’t just act like somebody who have experience about Jalaba. We will deal with you if you’re listening to what we say.

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      • 6 January 2013 10:06, by Dinkawarrior

        Don’t just act like somebody who have no experience about Jalaba, we will deal with you if you don’t listening to what we say.
        NO no no no no no no no no no no no no no no-Oil Oil Oil Oil Oil Oil Oil Oil-to the North

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        • 6 January 2013 21:54, by Ahmed Chol

          SPLM leadership needs to convince Salva to develop a separate plan to salvage South Sudan from the dire situation. Stop relying on their words. Stop hoping that these agreements will work and help you. Arabs are ready and willing to harm you even if you offer them your wives and daughters. Change your minds and do something different to save the country.

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      • 6 January 2013 12:28, by Darkangel
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          • 6 January 2013 14:29, by Rommel

            Darkangel:
            What’s your point!? All you’ve done is provide us with incorrectly labelled maps, without the decency of accompanying the maps with any form of original commentary. PS: I don’t see the Baqqara Arabs of Western Bahr el Ghazal being permitted to stay in South Sudan for much longer...

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            • 6 January 2013 14:30, by Rommel

              .. The Arabs that reside in Western Bahr el Ghazal are the very same Arabs that made the bulk of the so called mujahideen and the PDF; they worked in tandem with Khartoum in their operations against Dinka civilians and were instrumental in creating the artificial famine of 1988 that resulted in 250, 000 Dinka deaths. All has not been forgotten and all has certainly not been forgiven...

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          • 6 January 2013 18:14, by Ayom Ayom

            Darkangel, why MAP? What do you mean? explain the rationale behind for posting this map

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      • 6 January 2013 15:43, by Hardball

        Mrs. Master,
        I thought you guys had your new found oil, why are you still thinking of South Sudan oil flow as you said it? Look, you can fool others of your new found fake oil but not South Sudanese!

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    • 6 January 2013 12:51, by Peacocktail

      The Meeting came out with Nothing Agreed upon, Abyei Adminstration is alread set up, If No Oil to flow and demanding Cutting tie with SPLA-N, They are South Kordufan and Blue Nile, NCP knows where they are and shouldn’t be topic for discussion.Sudans Presidents Just pay cordial invitation to tour Adissababa with New Ethiopian Leader. He need to do Bussiness in both countries and play fair deals.W

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    • 6 January 2013 15:57, by Mading Makuac

      Very bad to hear that there will be no oil flowing !!!

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    • 6 January 2013 18:03, by Ayom Ayom

      It is clear here Khartoum don’t want implementation for the deal signed in September, so United Nations Security Council should issue a resolution and sanction against Sudan-Khartoum.

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    • 7 January 2013 02:44, by aguotwany@live.com

      We do not the oil you son of ( F’ ....) . We can live without oil and you will the red ear immigrants. We will kick you out from North, Sudan very when the present government leave. Get it!

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    • 7 January 2013 08:29, by Santino Akot

      Mr. Master I wish Southern Sudan Government has to stop the oil flow to the North and any kind of business with North. Also stop all the cattles that always toward Southern Sudan for grazing pasture and water. to see who will cry the most. and How ass will pay the U.N for your membership. Think about that smart ass.

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  • 6 January 2013 09:48, by Bilpam Land & Itang are Roots of South Sudan.

    Dear South Sudanese this is avery Impertant issue for Agreement in Capital Ethiople Addis Ababa ,it’s impossible Peace Agreement for opening Oils . you are still South Sudanese Running Up and down and were is he your Cow-ward President ,he playing like the baby because he don’t know how is going on . Ohmer will give Salva Gogerial Biscuit and will Sit-down.

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    • 6 January 2013 12:21, by DANDHEL

      Bilpam Land or Itang..
      Do you really speak or write English?
      Hahahahaha what an Ethiopian wannabe Nuer but Ethiopian rejected them? Check your English and spelling fool... otherwise happy new year Ethiopia wannabe...

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      • 6 January 2013 19:27, by Bilpam Land & Itang are Roots of South Sudan.

        Hey Deniel who are u stupid ! In which grammer are you know
        and you are in which Qualification. you are lying brother, Me I just only missing words is not because I don’t know English ; don’t take with blind Dinka ,you know Dinkas are using to buying Cetificates without Knowledes.

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      • 6 January 2013 19:49, by Bilpam Land & Itang are Roots of South Sudan.

        fuck you man Dendhel you are using oscillate from Nuer don’t compare your Nonsence knowledge with my knowledge . while event now I sort that you don’t have any Qualification , event secondary cetificate uselles .

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  • 6 January 2013 09:49, by master

    sever ties means to call your tanks .vehicles tracks . light and heavy arms and take it deep inside south souan and say good bye SPLa NORTH

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    • 6 January 2013 11:19, by mohamed mahgoub

      M. hopefully u don’t know English ,otherwise u should be very angery like ur brother Jalabi below,if understood the text very well

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    • 6 January 2013 13:46, by panchol

      Mistress & peacock- Mouth.
      we really citizens of South Sudan refuse about resumption of our crude oil to flow North, but our oil will be flowing through Sudan if SPLA/N, SRF and other Sudanese opposition groups topple regime in Khartoum(NCP ).
      Your days are numbered! marks my words.
      Question to you: Which country is more stronger between Syria and Iran? The is Syria.
      Sudan is nothing, ok? don’t

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    • 6 January 2013 18:12, by Ayom Ayom

      Master or Mistress or which ever you call your self,
      Never and Never, Division 9 & 10 are 15,000 forces mainly from blue Nile and southern Kordofan, they will never allow themselves to be disarmed by any either SAF or SPLA, A national army for south Sudan cannot go and die for disarming Khartoum rebels, they are here to defend the nation. we rather disarm SAF instead OF SPLA North,

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  • 6 January 2013 09:57, by Bilpam Land & Itang are Roots of South Sudan.

    Look now they will came back for SPLM Oyeee!Splm Oyeee! while they are not fullfilled the Agreement , and your Agreement will return back after two days believe me , Ohmer is the Intelligent Man not like our Stupid President . let us think about upcoming election . if Splm will return back this Primitive man what we will do? now we are in the Failure Government .

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  • 6 January 2013 10:01, by George Bol

    Why promising open ended aggreement always? that the reason these aggreed issues are not implemented. For instance, now it has said that the two parties are going to continued negotation while not set the datline. For me,it will take some years and know that there would be no solution in the border and the Abyei but war. This is a fact if this kind of negotiation.

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  • 6 January 2013 10:03, by Bilpam Land & Itang are Roots of South Sudan.

    they will put us in another bad Condition because now they are saying that; we will not removing Rebels in North Sudan .

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  • 6 January 2013 10:06, by George Bol

    Nuba mountains/S.Kordufan and Blue Nile are home to SPLM/A-N, fi khartoum is not a blind and one sided idiot,then they must understand that they have no right to think of disraming SPLA-N by force in the first place. For me, Khartoum are idiots with no thinking capacities. No that SPLA-N will not be removed by force

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    • 6 January 2013 10:34, by Muorcienggok

      It is unfortunate for the North to think that South Sudan can disarm the SPLM-North,where in the World can a foreign country goes and disarm another country’s rebels.people should be realistic, but bear one thing in mind South Sudan is determined to defense herself,no one in the World can invade South Sudan. The day we will accept full scale war we will shoot one’s ass in the circle of the clique

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      • 6 January 2013 10:49, by Jalaby

        Muorcienggok,
        You’re a liar like your dumb leaders in Juba,I’m not sure if u r a thief like them but I won’t be surprised if u do!
        You know what we mean by disarm them,right? stop giving them weapons and ammunition to attack Sudan and offer them a protection and safe haven to hide in the south,moreover,they get their salaries from SPLA/M

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        • 6 January 2013 11:22, by Muorcienggok

          Sorry am not a dumb ,a thief ,a liar nor anything you have branded me to be, neither do our leaders are. we do not accommodate your rebels in Juba,your empty mind has failed to recognize that they live in part of your territory they have captured,why do you retreat. Regarding the arms we do not arm them but rather they capture the guns you buy unless you surrender your guns and yourselves to them

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          • 6 January 2013 12:42, by Jalaby

            Muorcienggok,
            Now I become confident that you’re not just a liar but thief too
            Why denying your support to SPLA-N and everybody in this planet knows that fact? man,you lie the same way you breath as easy as that!
            SPLA-N capture their weapons from SAF while Yau Yau fighters receive their weapons from SAF but not capturing it from SPLA!!!

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            • 6 January 2013 12:46, by Jalaby

              No problem, keep lying and denying and we will keep bombarding the bad guys, let us see what else you can do other than crying and complaining!

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              • 6 January 2013 13:02, by Peacocktail

                Jallaba,
                If the SPLA-N/SRF is powerful and brought serious wave and shevering in NCP and Khartuom. then the Best solution for NCP regime is to gave up and surroundered the Government to SRF or call for immediate referrundum and Election for Malik Agar to the Presidency of Republic of Sudan. Do not Blame your neighbor SouthSUdan for your own made failures, Why sent your citizens 2 be rebels?

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              • 6 January 2013 16:11, by zulu

                WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE, YOUR STOOGERS, YOUR ALLIES?
                LISTEN TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO TELL ANOTHER STATE WHAT TO DO. LOOK AT RUWANDA AND UGANDA WHO ARE OPPERATING IN CONGO, WHO TELLS THEM TO STOP THOSE ACTIVITIES? NO BODY, LOL. SO STOP WHINING, BEACH

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              • 7 January 2013 10:30, by ngomrom

                Hay Blood batthing no body in the South who need to bath in your blood Basin if that is what you are looking go to the middle east were splling of blood is the calture we resfect life Bro

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    • 6 January 2013 11:07, by Muorcienggok

      Border demarcation,resumption of trade and flow of the oil as well as free movement of the people benefit both South and North Sudanese,it is unfortunate that North sees her sister the South as an enemy,otherwise pulling the rope tightly is meaningless, i wish the suffering felt by all the citizens in both countries is felt by the ruling cliques.I hope both countries need each other.

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  • 6 January 2013 10:18, by Gabriel KK

    Pagan Amum was right when he talked about the alternative oil route than wasting time with NCP Criminals. No South Sudan oil should pass through Sudan ever again because they are really not interested in peace or stability of the region.

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  • 6 January 2013 10:20, by Jalaby

    Why wasting time with thieves?! those people are liars and they lie the same way they breath as simple as that!
    they even lied to Obama, the president of the country that helped them till they became state, a failed state unfortunately!

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    • 6 January 2013 10:21, by Jalaby

      They don’t honor any agreement at all, they only care about opening the pipeline to export their oil, and then loot the oil money and support SPLA-N to destroy Sudan! Those people separated from Sudan not because they want to build a nation or country because their nation has nothing on common other than hatred to Arab/Jalaba,they’re like the "head meat" Laham Ras!

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      • 6 January 2013 10:22, by Jalaby

        their goal is to destroy Sudan and Bashir is right,those people can’t understand unless you’ve your stick up on them therefore the bombarding will continue day and night till they hand over Al-Hilo to us! Let them cry as usual,Obama fed up with them and that’s why US didn’t condemn Raja bombarding,Obama is turning deaf on them because he lost hope on them!

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        • 6 January 2013 10:23, by Jalaby

          Absolutely Bashir is correct, only stick will help and make them understand and comply to our fair demands, negotiation with them is wasting time and fruitless, our warplanes (stick) will soon hit the terrorists hard, let them cry loud, US is busy with their internal economy crisis and turning deaf ear on them, no one will listen to thieves anymore!

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        • 7 January 2013 13:42, by Tom D

          Who is this nonsene guy call himself Jalaba? Hey! Mr Jalaba, you are always talking nonsenly in our own affairs. I really fetup with your useless comments and unceptible bold type of writing that you are often used to differentiate yourself from South Sudanese boys. Fuck you and your Mujadeen. I red all untruth stories that muslems are not defeated in any war, Why are you running from panthou?

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      • 7 January 2013 02:59, by aguotwany@live.com

        Jalaby, time has arrived where you cannot escape the mighty of the Splm.N/A and attacking South, Sudan will cost you the heavy prices. What will happen to you is that when the Splm. N/ A capture Khartoum . You all will be executed by lethal ejection . Time has already arrived and your government cannot survive 2014.

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  • 6 January 2013 10:50, by Muorcienggok

    your jets and guns have got nothing to do to us where were they by the you left Panthou,your guns do not terrify us because guns alone do not make anything if the army is coward. Our infantry gave yours a blow I think you are aware of the fact that we seized all arms that were in panthou. you will be buying them then we take them freely.Never talk rubbish bullet has never passed over your head.

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    • 6 January 2013 11:01, by Jalaby

      Muorcienggok,
      You’re a liar like your dumb leaders in Juba!
      Everybody knows that SPLA were badly defeated in Heglig and they ran away quickly leaving their dead bodies on the ground without even burying them,they left them to scavengers and raptors without even burying them!They’re coward and thieves and have no time to bury their dead

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      • 6 January 2013 11:08, by Jalaby

        Keep lying and denying your support to SPLA-N and we will keep bombarding you very heavy ,all you can do is to cry loudly!
        I can assure you that your shit oil will never pass our land as long as you support those fugitives, there is no economy in your crap country but people still live in the stone age, cattle raiding and cows war are the only business left for them!

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        • 6 January 2013 11:37, by Muorcienggok

          Is you who are suffering from the greed for our oil,your damn government is boosting to be economically well off,but you have felt the pinch of our separation. We know you have stolen enough of our oil but it will finish and that will be the time you will turn your ass to us,but our reply we only be to poor soil into it.If your guns and jets were of any sense why haven’t they deter foreign attack

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        • 6 January 2013 12:26, by Dinkawarrior

          Mr. Jalaby!
          Hahahha hahahhaha hahahahahaha hahahah! Where were you when you were asked to pay million Dollars(1,000,000) to UN? You just show up and making noise here. You’re the only number evile here on the board, hope your going back Iraq where you came from. You’re son of Al Qeada and now back number Terror. Shame on you!! No Oil is follow to Sudan.

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      • 6 January 2013 11:53, by Observer

        Jalaby,
        Just as you are a liar.
        I have had enough of the likes of you, N Sudanese and Master coming on here and acting like you are speaking for all North Sudanese.
        Once both countries accept that each country is supporting rebels in each others country we might make some progress.
        Whether we like it or not we have to face that Sudan and S Sudan need each other economically.

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        • 6 January 2013 12:14, by Jalaby

          Observer,
          You’re pointless as usual!
          I asked you some questions before but you intentionally ignored them because you’ve no answer and unqualified to answer, you just oppose this government for the sake of opposition itself but lacking for clear vision and clear road map!
          Man you’re nothing but a rooster (Deek Al-Eda)!!

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          • 6 January 2013 16:07, by Marco A. Wek

            Jalabi or jalabia, do you really have a job or life?
            You are continuosly writing nonsense on this web.
            Please get yourself a job or life.

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          • 6 January 2013 21:33, by Observer

            Jalaby,
            Show me the post where you have asked me questions and I will respond

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            • 7 January 2013 04:44, by Chol

              Observer, Jalaby is unashamed liar, he just lied right there in your face and there you’re holding him on a short leash to not get away with it. Now he couldn’t come up with the question he insisted that you couldn’t answer. He is a shameless liar.

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          • 7 January 2013 05:49, by Observer

            Jalaby,
            The reason I oppose the government is because they have reduced our beloved Sudan into an economically crippled country, they are corrupt, they lie and have taken us in pariah state status.
            We had the possibility to be a great nation and that has all been destroyed by this current government led by a genocidal war mongerer.

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          • 7 January 2013 13:54, by Tom D

            To my all compatriot South Sudanes writters, my message to you is that, let us try to i dentify those who are not South Sudanese by origin and always contributed negatively to our affairs. I know this so call Jalaby is a South Sudanese who try to deney himself for sack of money. God will funish you severely if you are against South Sudanese’right

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            • 7 January 2013 22:10, by Observer

              Tom D,
              I am not S Sudanese but a Sudanese but I never contribute negatively to your affairs. Actually I hardly ever comment on them.
              The likes of N Sudanese, Jalaby, Dark Angel, Master, Sudani Ana do not represent the view of the ordinary Sudanese. Most moderate Sudanese recognise that both countries need each other to live in peace so we can both grow.
              N Sudanese is a govt media stooge

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      • 6 January 2013 16:23, by zulu

        WHERE WERE THEY DEFEATED, IN SOUTH SUDAN? WHY WERE THEY IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY? WHO IS LYING WHEN MILITARY EXPERTS SAID SAF WAS BADLY DEFEATED? UN EVEN CONFIRM THAT SUDAN HAS NOT PAID ITS DUES BUT SUDAN SAID IT DID?
        SPLA IS NOT WITHDRAWING ANY TERRITORY NO ANY SUPPORT TO WHO EVER WANTS GUNS AND ARMS TO DISTROY NCP

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  • 6 January 2013 11:14, by Rezingving monynok

    it is wasting time agreement with Arab ,those arab are ready punished by God, criminal Bashire is on the way going with his an illness.

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  • 6 January 2013 11:23, by James Maker Akok

    President Kiir must stop that agreement with President Bashri and let South Sudan Government go for International Arbitration Court because President Bashri planning on South Sudan is a killing the times for him to has South Sudan lands to North Sudan Map.
    I studied president Bashri mind I know his planning on South Sudan, his plan is to cheat South Sudan.

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  • 6 January 2013 11:29, by master

    what mistrified me that those people lie and then believe their lie
    our demand crystal clear
    don’t waste our time and your time
    l know no avial for a peaceful discusstion with those stooges

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    • 6 January 2013 11:56, by Observer

      Master,
      You are right.
      Our leaders lie and lie all the time and then expect us to believe them.
      We make agreements then break them, then the likes of you blame everyone else.
      Face the facts- our leaders are not interested in having as peaceful solution with S Sudan- they only say things to buy time with the international community.

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      • 6 January 2013 12:22, by Jalaby

        Observer (Deek Al-Eda),
        As usual, you only blame our government but you always keep your eye closed regarding the south that openly provides support to SPLA-N who use to kill innocent people in S Kordofan and shell Kadougly randomly and assassinate politicians who oppose them!
        I’m not surprise because you’ve only "one-eyed" .. Ya Aawar!

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        • 6 January 2013 22:36, by Observer

          Jalaby,
          I do not keep my eyes closed to S Sudan just that I am a bit more open minded and objective than you are.
          Just as our govt denies supporting David Yau and his rebels in S Sudan so does the S Sudan govt deny supporting the SPLA - N. So if you believe our govt on this then you have to believe the S Sudan govt.
          Both sides are to blame for the killing of innocent citizens in S Kordof

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          • 6 January 2013 22:38, by Observer

            Jalaby,
            I also note that when you are not able to defend yourself on here you resort to name calling which lessens your stature even more

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  • 6 January 2013 11:38, by 4Justice

    can somebody take salva to his village??

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    • 6 January 2013 12:34, by DANDHEL

      4Justice!!!
      Am ready to take him Salva to my village called ci yi guac mieth aguich..dedicated to you 4Justice..

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    • 6 January 2013 13:25, by master

      4justic
      NO no no
      don’t say that again
      kiir is best one for us
      if you want to change him we will fight with him

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  • 6 January 2013 11:49, by James Maker Akok

    To all Southerns Sudanese people,
    I would like you Southerns Sudanese people to supporting this for South Sudan Government for going for International Arbitration Court because North Sudan Government will never agree through peaceful talk.
    Let we send our comments in every website even if you know any president Kiir office, and any South Sudan leader office send it to them for them to read it.

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    • 6 January 2013 12:31, by Jalaby

      James,
      We as Arab/Jalaba will go no where because we went before with you to International Court for Abyei and the international Court gave us Heglig but you came back and took Heglig by force!
      We won’t waste our time with you again,we will take our right by our "stick"!
      Go alone, we will go no where and don’t waste our time please!

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      • 6 January 2013 12:55, by James Maker Akok

        Hello,
        Don’t you know that a really original Map of Sudan of 1905 had been found by me
        I have it now and I sent many copies to Southerns Sudanese and round the world. On Map, show that Heglig, all others areas are inside South Sudan.
        Contact me to send you this map to see the areas you talking for you to think before we go for International Arbitration Court.
        jamesmakerakok@gmail.com

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        • 6 January 2013 13:39, by Jalaby

          James
          Man, What map are you talking about?! You drew it by yourself and added what ever cities in the north you want to add and then you say "I’ve the map let us go to international Court!!"
          Man, I’m very sure "Marisa" won’t make you talk nonsense like that, I bet this is marijuana "Bango Adeel Keda"!!

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          • 6 January 2013 14:08, by James Maker Akok

            Jalaby,
            I’m not those people joke with you in this site. You will see it on your eyes if you don’t believe, I tell what I discover I don’t tell lairs to make me proud for nothing. North Sudan Government hiding Map and I found in my intelligent through North Sudan privacies posts and through Africans privates posts.
            Lol, South Sudan is not 1956, this is new generations that can found anything.
            I

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          • 7 January 2013 15:06, by Die (Truth) or Live (Lie)

            Fools’ heads (Salva & Bashir) will never ever help the citizens of the two countries live in peace. big thinkers like Dr. John Garang de Mabior should be given a chance rather than silencing them.

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      • 6 January 2013 14:44, by Rommel

        Jalaby:
        The Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) did not rule that "Heglig" does not belong to South Sudan! It said nothing of the sort! The PCA was afforded a very limited, and very specific mandate; it was tasked only with determining the extent of Abyei as it stood at the date of its transfer from Bahr el Ghazl to Kordofan in 1905 by the Condominium government.

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        • 6 January 2013 14:54, by Rommel

          The Permanent Court of Arbitration’s definition of Abyei merely moved "Heglig" to the east of Abyei’s eastern boundary. The PCA did not place "Heglig" in Sudan or South Sudan — it simply said that "Heglig" lies to the east of Abyei.

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          • 6 January 2013 14:58, by Rommel

            This is what the Hague actually said: "The eastern boundary of the area of the nine Ngok Dinka chiefdoms transferred to Kordofan in 1905 runs in a straight line along longitude 29°00’00”E, from latitude 10°10’00”N south to the Kordofan – Upper Nile boundary as it was defined on 1 January 1956."

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            • 6 January 2013 15:05, by Rommel

              This ruling did nothing to settle where the “1 January 1956 border” actually lies. It had no mandate to make such a determination, and did not attempt to do so.

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              • 6 January 2013 15:10, by Rommel

                There is a wealth of documented evidence regarding the demographic character of "Heglig"; sources on the matter include the then UN Special Rapporteur -Leonardo Franco- who in 1999 reported on the widespread displacement of Aliiny’s population:

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                • 6 January 2013 15:14, by Rommel

                  "As recently as May 1999, many villages on the eastern edge of Heglig were attacked and burned to the ground by the Sudanese army, causing the displacement of some 1,000-2,000 civilians."

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                  • 6 January 2013 15:15, by Rommel

                    This is what the coalition of international justice wrote in its 2006 report on Heglig and the surrounding area: .."beginning half way through the dry season of 1991-2 and restarting in November 1992, (and continuing through the whole of the dry season of 1992-3) government forces together with Arab murahaleen allies began an offensive of looting, burning and abduction,

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                    • 6 January 2013 15:25, by Rommel

                      resulting in the destruction of at least 57 hamlets in the Heglig area." This is what Human rights watch reported in 2003 on the displacement of the Ruweng Dinka from "Heglig". Quote: The government and its muraheleen allies then undertook a five-month offensive to dislodge the civilians permanently.

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                      • 6 January 2013 15:30, by Rommel

                        From November 1992 (a month before the sale to Arakis and State Petroleum) through April 1993, these forces looted, burned, killed, and abducted people around the town of Heglig in Block 2." Human Rights Watch source: http://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/sudan1103/sudanprint.pdf

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                        • 6 January 2013 15:33, by Rommel

                          The extensive reports by Human rights watch, the coalition of international justice, the Harker report, and the 1999 report of the then UN Special Rapporteur -Leonardo Franco- on the displacement of the Ruweng Dinka from Aliiny by the SAF and the Misseriya... leaves no scintilla of doubt as to whom Aliiny belongs.

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                          • 6 January 2013 15:36, by Rommel

                            The irrefutable, insurmountable, persistent and documented truth is this: "Heglig" belongs to the Ruweng Dinka; this was true when the British found us at Kol Delek ("Keilak") — 70km North of "Heglig" in 1902; this was true when the former UN Special Rapporteur documented and reported the displacement of the Ruweng in 1999...

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                            • 6 January 2013 15:47, by Rommel

                              .. and this will still be true when the ignorant, immoral, corrupt, treasonous, death-deserving cretins in Juba are gone. We will reclaim every inch of our lands after we remove these wretched sheep.

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                              • 7 January 2013 03:53, by aguotwany@live.com

                                Rommel,I love your comments man, yes we will reclaim every corner left unturned . Panthou is the South, Sudan land and will retake it no matter when . Time is coming and those in Khartoum will learn it harder . Thanks

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            • 6 January 2013 17:17, by master

              south sudan agreed before referenedum about that map which show all disputed area laying north 56 line

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              • 6 January 2013 18:08, by James Maker Akok

                Master, or non-name,
                A original Sudan Map I discovered in North Sudan privates posts and Africans privates posts I have now is very too far a way different with that map been posted on websites. This map is a really original Map of Sudan that put North Sudan Government to crying why South Sudan got intelligent to found this map in very privates documents map.

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      • 6 January 2013 16:31, by zulu

        IN THIS REGARD, I APPLAUD YOUR STANCE AND THE FEELING IS MUTUAL. WE WILL GO NO WHERE AND WE WILL USE ALL MEANS TO TRAIN AND SUPPORT ANY REBEL OF SUDAN. WE WILL ALSO NO ON, GO TO 1956 BORDER

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      • 6 January 2013 16:44, by Hardball

        Jalaby, it’s easy for me to say north Darfur is South Sudan territory; does it mean it’s true? No, not really, just say any way you want that Panthou/Heglig is Sudanese territory; you can just give endless laughter to those who know the truth about both territories, Abyei and Panthou.

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  • 6 January 2013 13:06, by James Maker Akok

    File:Sudan Map.jpg

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  • 6 January 2013 15:38, by Puok Tut

    I can say it’s a good move between Sudan and S. Sudan presidents; n let it not be revelation for every body bcoz what we all need to hear is; let oil production start but it seem like oil issue is not so important. it’s stil alright let Abei n border issues be solv first then every thing will flow smoothly like nothing. I have spent more than what world n Arab think without oil & no worse economy

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  • 6 January 2013 15:52, by Samuel Malual

    The oil is not flowing and we will continued to survive like we always do. Now in Khartoum, prostitution has become a new source of employment for wives of the poor intrenet sitters such Jalaba and the colleagues of his type. Jalaba be inform that if we accept full war with your government, then you will die in exile without returning because black community will take the whole country back. SPLM-

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    • 6 January 2013 16:04, by Mading Makuac

      Samuel malual,
      you are true.i agree with you.

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  • 6 January 2013 15:58, by Samuel Malual

    The land of black will always prepare for black to settle on not salt traders of the 1661 like Northern Muslim. Long live Sudan Revolutionary Front (SRF). Long live future President of Northern Sudan General Malik Agar. Long Live Nuba Mountain.

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  • 6 January 2013 22:49, by Kim Deng

    They (thieves) in the south assumed that the arabized Nubian gov’t led by mosquitos in Khartoum will reverse its plan. They are very wrong on that concept.

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  • 7 January 2013 08:23, by Die (Truth) or Live (Lie)

    Fools’ heads (Salva & Bashir) will never ever help the citizens of the two countries live in peace. big thinkers like Dr. John Garang de Mabior should be given a chance rather than silencing them.

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  • 7 January 2013 10:34, by Die (Truth) or Live (Lie)

    Fools’ heads (Salva & Bashir) will never ever help the citizens of the two countries live in peace. big thinkers like Dr. John Garang de Mabior should be given a chance rather than silencing them.

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