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November 6, 2012 (KHARTOUM) – Sudanese President Omer Al-Bashir underwent a “minor and successful” medical operation in Saudi Arabia’s capital Riyad on Tuesday, state media has reported as growing speculations about his health saw one MP urging the ruling National Congress Party (NCP) to name a successor.

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Sudanese President Omar Hassan al-Bashir attends the inauguration of the new African Union (AU) Building in Ethiopia’s capital Addis Ababa, January 28, 2012 (REUTERS)

Official media announced on Monday that Al-Bashir flew to Riyad to receive a “medical checkup” and meet with senior Saudi officials including King King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz Al Saud.

But there was no mention of the nature of the medical checkup or, more importantly, any planned operation until Sudan state radio reported on Tuesday that the 68-year-old ruler had undergone a “minor and successful” operation there but without giving further details.

The spokesperson of the presidency of the republic, Imad Said Ahmad, told Sudan’s official news agency (SUNA) that Al-Bashir has “recovered” and will check out of the hospital where the operation was conducted in few hours.

“We bring to our citizens the good news about the healing and recovery God has bestowed upon the president of the republic” he said.

Speculations about the health of the Sudanese president became more than just rumors after the government admitted in August that he underwent a surgery on his vocal chords in Qatar.

Presidential spokesperson Imad Said Ahmad, however, described the surgery as “minor” and insisted that his boss was enjoying “good health”

Official sources told Sudan Tribune on condition of anonymity that the operation was “not anticipated” and was rather “necessitated” by the results of the tests he took.

They however declined to divulge details about the type of the operation and said that the president will leave the hospital today and return to the country within five days.

The facts that Al-Bashir underwent two operations in the space of four months and that the issue of his health situation is being shrouded in secrecy have fueled rumors across the Sudanese street and cyberspace that he is infected with a terminal disease.

Some Sudanese bloggers and websites reported rumors that tissue samples taken from Al-Bashir’s throat in Saudi Arabia were sent to Germany for further tests. Another rumor has it that he has been diagnosed with throat cancer.

The rumors are further fueled by the fact that since August, the time of his first operation, he has noticeably made few appearances and refrained from his habit of giving long and loudly-uttered public speeches.

It was also observed that Al-Bashir failed to address dozens of supporters who gathered in front of the council of ministers in Khartoum two weeks ago to rally against the alleged Israeli attack on Al-Yarmook military factory. He merely waved his hand and let his deputy Vice-President Ali Osman Mohammed Taha address the crowd instead.

Meanwhile, deputy speaker of the Sudanese parliament Hagou Gasm Al-Said stoked the controversy around the issue when he told reporters in the capital Khartoum on Tuesday that the NCP should immediately begin preparations to name a successor for Al-Bashir. He called on his party to present the suitable alternative who can win the trust of the people.

But Hagou also added that the ailment from which Al-Bashir is suffering is “normal” and does not merit the amount of rumors surrounding it.

The NCP recently said it is yet to discuss the issue of who will succeed Al-Bashir should he steps down as promised at the end of his current term in 2015. The party also denied media reports that Taha has been nominated to succeed Al-Bashir.

Earlier on Monday, Sudan’s state minister at the presidency of the republic, Amin Hassan Omer, suggested in an interview with the London-based newspaper Al-Sharq al-Awsat that the issue of Al-Bashir health is being blown out of proportion.

Omer blamed the presidency of the republic for the spread of rumors about Al-Bashir’s health because it did not take the initiative to report the issue from the beginning. According to the minister, Al-Bashir is only suffering from “persistent inflammations” in his throat and that the doctors enjoined a reduction in the amount of public speeches.

He, however, said that Al-Bashir health situation suffered a setback because he did not abide by the doctors’ orders to reduce public speeches.

But the Media counsellor at the Sudanese embassy in London, Khalid al-Mubarak, told Sudan Tribune on Monday that there has been “full transparency” about Bashir’s trip, which was discussed on Sudan TV.

"The president looked fit until he left. He did not cancel a single appointment and is planning a visit to Juba to consolidate relations," al-Mubarak said.

He also said that the president “neither smokes nor drinks [alcohol]”

Al-Bashir has been ruling Sudan since taking power in an Islamist-backed military coup in 1989. In 2009 he became the first sitting head of state to be issued with an arrest warrant from the International Criminal Court (ICC) for war crimes and crimes against humanity committed in the Darfur conflict, which according to the UN, led to the death of 300,000 people and displacement of 2.7 million in 2003-2004.

The ICC ruling has restricted Al-Bashir to traveling to non-signatories to the Rome Statute, which includes Saudi Arabia. Elsewhere in the world he risks implementation of the warrant and potentially trial at the Hague-based tribunal.

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  • 7 November 2012 06:49, by Mi diit

    Ali Osman Taha should take over. Sudanese should stop the habit of an individual in the presidency for life.

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    • 7 November 2012 06:52, by Mi diit

      And besides Taha is more visionary than Al-Bashir who only believes in military uniform. Nonetheless, I thank Bashir for keeping the promise of giving South Sudan away to its owners and become independent. The self determination drive was finally achieved in July 2011. Thank you and good bye..

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      • 7 November 2012 07:15, by Chol

        If Bashir surgical operation is successful and will be release soon; then why name his successor to succeed him as a president?

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        • 7 November 2012 08:33, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

          This taking is a says of those who never achieved anything in their bad struggle,
          I can see all Nuer who feel a shame like this fake mi dit is always rush to thank Bashir as if they Bashir was giving us what we never fought for, they when us to be in the same level just like them with no achievable goals, and this explain their lack of knowledge where did this freedom come from, freedom came by,

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          • 7 November 2012 08:34, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

            Shedding of blood, determination and strategies play by the person with open mind something you lack of, it is not suave that this attitude has led us to cut off the microphone from Riek machar during his rushing recklessness of pressing Bashir as if Bashir calling us out of the bush and give us the freedom we need, Nuer you going to be careful with what you want to say otherwise this inhuman

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            • 7 November 2012 08:35, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

              Cont,,,,,,talking will kept placing doubt in our heart that Nuer are still slave of Arab untill now, I believe in my life and the whole Dinka communities that nobody will press Bashir for south Sudan independent because we know how hard we give our lives and time to fought for it, even those who were in Khartoum were not happy with the way Arab treat them, hope no one from Dinka will ever say

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              • 7 November 2012 08:37, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                Cont,,, thank to Bashir for anything, we die our relatives were being the target of every tribe in the country because we said no to their master,
                But good for those who never fough during the war to thank Bashir, because if anyone who has some of his relatives die from war, he or she will be dead for betraying his dead love one, I don’t know when will Nuer Nyagatism will stop, only God know it,

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                • 7 November 2012 10:00, by Big Boy

                  Ho Bashir don’t die before pay us our militian salary during the month of Oct and Nov-12 otherwise will not fight again with you against Splm.

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          • 7 November 2012 08:36, by Mi diit

            Dinka Dominated whatever,
            You are the most tribal former son of my grandfather’s slave. When did the Dinka become more nationalist than the Nuer in the history of Sudan? I don’t remember a single event. From the time of Ngundeng you have been betraying the Nuer with your new masters, the British and Arabs. Even your new united Sudan vision was calculated to further betray the Nuer and shield you

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            • 7 November 2012 08:42, by Mi diit

              Good that a single man has overcome your selfish tactics and now you have found yourselves in an independent South Sudan, from a strategy which has confused all of your uncles, leaving you to wonder and only wake up to praise yourselves in pretense that you fought for it. Fools!!!

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              • 7 November 2012 08:45, by Mi diit

                In Nuer culture we thank somebody who has conceded at least something. Bashir conceded self determination to us and here we are in independent state because he recognised it. What would the situation be like now if he did not want referendum to take place or refused to recognise our independence??? Would we not be still fighting in Torit???

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                • 7 November 2012 08:48, by Mi diit

                  We fought against different regimes in Khartoum for over 50 years, did we get our independence right away because we were shooting guns? NO! It takes more than the bullet fire to get what you want. And that was the strategy through Khartoum’s peace agreement, copied to CPA. You may not want to hear about it now but I assure you that you will tell your children to learn about it in schools someday!

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                  • 7 November 2012 13:00, by Rommel

                    Mi diit:
                    You are ascribing far too much to Riek Machar, no doubt due to your shared tribal identity. The man did not deliver Self-Determination to the people of South Sudan; he delivered internecine tribal war and our oilfields to Khartoum - that is his legacy.
                    I will now dismantle your reverence of the August 28 Nasir Declaration as the apparent antecedent of our independence.

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                    • 7 November 2012 13:01, by Rommel

                      There are a great deal of historical facts that you seem to be incognizant of. There was for example the fact that on the 29th of July [one month prior to the Nasir Declaration], the SPLM/A had informed the Sudanese government that Self-Determination was to be discussed for the Abuja agenda.

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                      • 7 November 2012 13:02, by Rommel

                        This is confirmed by the works of scholars such as Ann Lech. Her book states on page 22: "the independence option was therefore included in the still-united SPLM’s proposal for the Abuja agenda that was submitted to Nigerian and Sudanese government on 29th July 1991".
                        Page 22 - ’The Battle for Peace in Sudan: An Analysis of Abuja Conferences 1992 – 1993’.

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                        • 7 November 2012 13:02, by Rommel

                          Douglas H. Johnson’s ’The Root Causes of Sudan’s Civil Wars’ puts it this way: The SPLA was already preparing a new position on self determination in 1991 when the Nasir declaration finally brought the issue of southern Sudanese independence to the fore, not just for debate among southern Sudanese but between southern and northern Sudanese."
                          page 174 - The Root Causes of Sudan’s Civil Wars.

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                          • 7 November 2012 18:19, by Mi diit

                            Rommel,
                            Riek Machar kept telling Garang to include self determination since 1984. But you are talking about 1991 in July. Does it mean that Garang finally agreed to self determination proposal of Riek or did he simply smell something and wanted to deceive the rest that he was for self determination? I think the writers you quoted did not consult Riek for comments while writing their books.

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                            • 7 November 2012 19:58, by Rommel

                              Mi diit:
                              I don’t know any reputable historian that has or is willing to ascribe the seemingly endless list of the many supposed political achievements of Dr. Riek Machar that you constantly enumerate for us... ..

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                              • 7 November 2012 19:58, by Rommel

                                .. and so in that vein I want and require quotable evidence from the work of a reputable historian, that explicitly substantiates and affirms your contention that Dr. Riek Machar brought up the issue of Self-Determination to the late Dr. John Garang De Mabior as far back as 1984.

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                                • 7 November 2012 20:04, by Mi diit

                                  Rommel (Dr. Luka Biong Deng),
                                  Not only self determination, even the simple order of the name SPLA/M to SPLM/A was initiated by Dr. Riek in 1991. Will you deny this. He used to tell Garang to put SPLM first than comes SPLA after. Garang resisted since 1984 but made a U-turn recently in the 1990s by adopting it after seeing that Riek’s faction has implemented it. You will have headache denying.

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                                • 7 November 2012 20:06, by Rommel

                                  You better stop spinning and find some documents, fast! I have a feeling you won’t be forthcoming in this regard. Two things can happen: 1) You will answer my request for evidence, and if you’re forthcoming, I will thank you for enlightening me. 2) You will not answer my request, in which case the debate is over, and you’ve lost.

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                                  • 7 November 2012 20:22, by Rommel

                                    Not to deprive you of your natural right to certain failure, but you have a snowball’s chance in Hades of proving that Riek said anything to the late Dr. John Garang De Mabior concerning Self-Determination in 1984. Evidence is required, dear brother.

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            • 7 November 2012 08:45, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

              Do I have to respon to you? No you are not in my level, Riek machar is my colleague in the government and there is no day that he will be able to express his achievable goals because he knew how backward he took us during the struggle with cheap and short cut that humiliated him to the standard of being an educated man to a poor mantle I’ll idiot, I will never thank Bashir for any reason

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              • 7 November 2012 08:49, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                Because I fought to bring achievable goals something you are not entity to do in your small Nuer strategy, if you fooling yourself that Bashir give you independent, than how come the Khartoum peace agreement did not work it the way you and Riek machar when it? This show how you animals still don’t get it all, even the mad Dinka man in the hospital no that Bashir is nothing but evil, shame be with

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                • 7 November 2012 08:54, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                  Nuer who do not understand how it work, those with low profile are alway with big wish to be they people who have done everything, but it doesn’t work that way, the histrionic of Sudan can never be rewrite again and any useless community like Nuer who left out of participating in the freedom can just sit and be know as nothing but sub human bing who never think of future,

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              • 7 November 2012 08:53, by Mi diit

                Ahaahahahaaaa....how can Riek Machar be at the level of a retarded fool like you. He wants you and your likes to learn through action or the hard way because you are fools. The world around you has understood you as visionless thieves and he is the shining star yet you are bragging as if it is okay to be proud to be a visionless thief.

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                • 7 November 2012 08:58, by Mi diit

                  You fool! Learn the wise strategy in the Bible where David (Riek) defected from dictator Soul (Garang) of Israel (South Sudan) and joined the Palestinians (Khartoum) to avoid King Soul (Garang). David later switched side and he himself brought an end to Palestinians oppression and became God’s most loved king of Israel. This strategy only visionary people and God understand. Not you fools!!

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                  • 7 November 2012 09:02, by Mi diit

                    Riek while in Khartoum killed two birds with one stone by drawing all northern political forces to conditionally accept self determination while putting pressure on Garang to amend his objectives for struggle to self determination and change towards democracy. The two sides found themselves negotiating the CPA on self determination as the first protocol. Do you fools think it came out of the blue?

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                    • 7 November 2012 09:11, by Mi diit

                      When power greed between Garang and Kiir surfaced and almost destroyed the peace process, Riek intevened swiftly to reconcile the two. Kiir was in Yei ready to fight Garang. Then Garang was ready to launch attacks against Kiir from his base in New site. Riek told Garang, No and went to Yei to convice Kiir to reconcile. He chaired their reconciliation in Rumbek. Do Dinka thank Riek for that? No.

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                      • 7 November 2012 09:22, by Mi diit

                        In the poor Dinka culture with no quality, you only thank somebody who gives you fresh food today and not the one who gave it to you yesterday. Bashir contributed lately to our match towards independence. We should thank him for that even if we can still pinpoint his crimes in the past or present. The Nuer are good at separating right from wrong.

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                        • 7 November 2012 09:31, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                          Aha I think you switch the side of your talking, if Dinka where that food lover just like you brother, mi toot, we would be in the hell of salivary right now, your Clamed doesn’t match Dinka description. Dear, find another description because Dinkas love to have land than food something you will reject without your evaluation for, we are Dinka and we are proud of the great things we have done ,

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                        • 7 November 2012 13:24, by Wrong Chemical

                          to midit
                          you true spy of this young nation, look here God has judge Bashir with south sudan’s money he normal stole & this what I told them face to face talk in his own room when we are having a dinner in the conversation Ali Osman mention something made Bashir sick, he said nomore money that we gone be depost in foreign bank b’se Sudan is given other sanction by hearing bashir run mud.

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                        • 7 November 2012 14:30, by Badi Malawi

                          Midiit,dont insult dinkas ,if u r not manfucken u can not insult the powerful tribe,that fuck ur mother,s husband will not come to khartoum again, the blood of innocent civilians have call him

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                  • 7 November 2012 13:07, by Rommel

                    Mi diit:
                    There were no Palestinians at the time of King David. Where did you learn history!? You are in no position to call others fools, when you display time and time again complete ignorance on virtually every matter you speak on.

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                    • 7 November 2012 13:10, by Rommel

                      If you are going to moralise by way of a Biblical example, please do so with an attendant elementary understanding of the Bible and of the matters therein. The people that existed at the time of King David were the Philistines, and they were wiped out. They have no connection to the Palestinians.

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                      • 7 November 2012 13:14, by Rommel

                        The Philistines were a non-Semitic, Aegean people who disappeared after having being absorbed into the Neo-Babylonian Empire by Nebuchadnezzar II. You should be happy, you’ve learned something new today.

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                        • 7 November 2012 13:18, by Rommel

                          The Romans re-named Judah "Palaestina" in homage of the extinct Phillistines, after a large Jewish revolt (Masada) so as to humiliate the Jews and conspicuously superimpose the name of these former enemies of the Jewish people onto the Jewish homeland.

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                          • 7 November 2012 13:21, by Rommel

                            Two birds with one stone? Machar was entirely dependent on the government for ammunition and supplies. Do you really think that Riek being so dependant on the Khartoum government at that time that he could extract such politically exacting concessions!? The 1997 Agreement afforded Riek (on worthless paper) tutelage over the oil-fields, only for Khartoum to then rescind on that agreed arrangement.

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                            • 7 November 2012 13:22, by Rommel

                              Khartoum revoked its commitment to this agreement by way of a military incursion into the oilfields, while Riek looked on ever so hopelessly as Khartoum increased its military presence, in an absolute, definite and conspicuous display of contempt and disregard.

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                              • 7 November 2012 13:26, by Rommel

                                You seem to always begin with an hypothesis — usually one which is emotionally appealing to you and spectacularly implausible — which you then attempt to support with unsubstantiated, ahistorical hogwash.

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                                • 7 November 2012 19:22, by Mi diit

                                  Rommel,
                                  Don’t argue on trivial issues. Call them Phillistines or Palestines, but the point is that David defected to these Israeli enemies in order to avoid dictator Soul and returned to Israel and ended the oppression killing Goliath of the Philistines. Isn’t that so? On Riek I know you are a diehard denial of his unmatched achievements which you now enjoy shamelessly. You are a tribal maniac!

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                                  • 7 November 2012 19:51, by Rommel

                                    Mi diit:
                                    Ah, so historical accuracy is trivial? I think this is symptomatic of just why it is you feel so comfortable with distorting the historical narrative. It simply doesn’t matter what King David did, because he’s not infallible and so cannot be used to excuse wrongdoing. So it was perfectly alright for Riek to walk over piles of corpses in order to assert himself!?

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                                    • 8 November 2012 07:22, by Mi diit

                                      Riek did not kill your people. It was your stupidity which provoked the Nuer civilians to attack Bor after you started to cowardly murder their officers in cold blood in Equatoria region where you fled to for refuge. But God told Joshua though to conquer and walk over piles of dead victims in canaan, the land he told him to conquer. Why did God do it???

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                • 7 November 2012 09:04, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                  You are right mr fake vice president can never be my colleague because he is nyagat and womeniser, something that differentiate the really people with fake people who love to be fooled by another foolish like him, tell me who am I? If because Riek machar want to united kingdom, I want there before him and Riek machar family background can never be compared to my because I have splendid background

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                  • 7 November 2012 09:12, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                    Any Nuer sub human can rewrite what they think to cool their unforgettable shame down but the reality is that the document has already been made and the history is already outside for reader to know who done what’s in the country,
                    We will never buy cheap thank to anyone who never give us anything, cheap thank is for those who share the death of southern with Bashir,

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        • 7 November 2012 08:42, by Paul Ongee

          Ya Khalid Al-Mubarack (Media Counselor),
          I agree with you that there has been “full transparency” but what is not discussed on Sudan TV was his addiction to “akulu Shaawud” and “consumption of alcohol on the sly”. London Dry Gin is responsible for the throat cancer because he sipped it without being diluted. Whoever is named, PEACEFUL SUCCESSION to presidency is unlikely.

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          • 7 November 2012 09:12, by Paul Ongee

            Omer Hassan Al-Bashir is not dead yet but previous failure to abide by the Doctor’s orders to reduce public speech is possibly becoming a red line for his presidency. Since he’s not allowed to deliver public speech after this second operation, who do you think, folks, would deliver a speech as the President of the country? Someone must be named for the possibly violent succession/transition.

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      • 7 November 2012 07:20, by wang

        Mi diit
        Omer Al-Bashir will hang on with that power until his day is comes to the end. He is not going to give it to someone easily like Ali Osman Taha as you had mentioned. But, Omer Al-Bashir has better records compare to that tribalism man also known late lost dictator

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        • 7 November 2012 08:18, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

          This taking is a says of those who never achieved anything in their bad struggle,
          I can see all Nuer who feel a shame like this fake mi dit is always rush to thank Bashir as if they Bashir was giving us what we never fought for, they when us to be in the same level just like them with no achievable goals, and this explain their lack of knowledge where did this freedom come from, freedom came by,

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          • 7 November 2012 08:23, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

            Shedding of blood, determination and strategies play by the person with open mind something you lack of, it is not suave that this attitude has led us to cut off the microphone from Riek machar during his rushing recklessness of pressing Bashir as if Bashir calling us out of the bush and give us the freedom we need, Nuer you going to be careful with what you want to say otherwise this inhuman

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            • 7 November 2012 08:27, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

              Cont,,,,,,talking will kept placing doubt in our heart that Nuer are still slave of Arab untill now, I believe in my life and the whole Dinka communities that nobody will press Bashir for south Sudan independent because we know how hard we give our lives and time to fought for it, even those who were in Khartoum were not happy with the way Arab treat them, hope no one from Dinka will ever say

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              • 7 November 2012 08:32, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                Cont,,, thank to Bashir for anything, we die our relatives were being the target of every tribe in the country because we said no to their master,
                But good for those who never fough during the war to thank Bashir, because if anyone who has some of his relatives die from war, he or she will be dead for betraying his dead love one, I don’t know when will Nuer Nyagatism will stop, only God know it,

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          • 7 November 2012 08:30, by Ruach

            I hope he will join his groups(Group of Dictators)in the hell!

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          • 7 November 2012 08:33, by Mi diit

            Dinka Dominated whaever,
            You are the most tribal former son of my grandfather’s slave. When did the Dinka become more nationalist than the Nuer in the history of Sudan? I don’t remember a single event. From the time of Ngundeng you have been betraying the Nuer with your new masters, the British and Arabs. Even your new united Sudan vision was calculated to further betray the Nuer and shield you

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            • 7 November 2012 09:12, by Rommel

              Mi diit:
              Will you ever stop your campaign of distorting history!? The Dinka and Nuer have been at odds with each for Centuries on end, with the Nuer invariably being the aggressors that succeeded in raiding, subjugating and absorbing entire Dinka sections and occupying large swathes of their lands. Let me congratulate your great-grandfathers for these achievements. Bravo!

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              • 7 November 2012 09:24, by Rommel

                What Nation were the Nuer fighting for in this much vaunted Nationalism that you keep on evoking!? A Nation must exist for Nationalism to exist. The Nuer were fighting for themselves only; for the sake of chaos, their right to raid, rape and pillage. The British clashed with the Nuer and eventually subdued them in order to stop the raiding that the Nuer were so fond of.

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                • 7 November 2012 09:33, by Rommel

                  It seems as though you’re desperately trying to identify, label and coalesce what was essentially just Nuer Nationalism and Nuer interests with proto-South Sudanese interests. They are not one and the same thing. You raided small Dinka sections in greater Upper Nile and this is the source of your pride!?

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                  • 7 November 2012 09:37, by Rommel

                    You have not yet established as fact, that the Dinka indeed did not participate in resistance to Turkisk and condominium rule. The fact of the matter is that the Dinka did resist both the Turks and the British, a wealth of information attesting to this can be sourced from the archives and in particular a great book aptly titled, ’Dinka resistance to condominium rule’.

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                    • 7 November 2012 09:44, by Rommel

                      The small Twic and Bor Dinka sections expediently allied themselves with the British precisely because they were being raided by the Nuer. Where’s the betrayal here!? Excluding the Twic and Bor Dinka, all the Dinka sections in Bahr el Ghazal and Upper Nile fought against the British and were more successful against the Turks and Arabs than the Nuer.

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                      • 7 November 2012 09:58, by Rommel

                        If you wish to characterize this as betrayal... then I want you to rightly call the late Matip’s dalliances with the enemy as betrayal as well. If you don’t characterize this as betrayal, then you quite simply do not know the meaning of the word and so cannot condemn others.

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                        • 7 November 2012 10:05, by Rommel

                          What I have identified in your culture is this: No Nuer is ever condemned by another Nuer even if he is so clearly wrong, unless he’s been deemed reproachable for apparently fraternizing with the Dinka or not working solely for Nuer interests. You are first and foremost a Nuer Nationalist, Mi diit — not a South Sudanese patriot. There is a great difference between the two.

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                          • 7 November 2012 10:19, by Mi diit

                            Rommel,
                            Again you got it wrong. If we (Nuer) are not forward thinkers, how would we have allowed you to steal our wealth, corrupt the land, while our leaders had focused on how to get independence for all of us. This is the spirit of nationalism. We allow you to lead undisturbed until the D-day comes. Gai Tut nominated a Dinka (Kuot Atem), the uncle of Garang. Was it Nuer’s interest to lead?

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                            • 7 November 2012 10:22, by Mi diit

                              The problem with the Dinka is that they are blinded by greed to the level of heartlessness. You dream of a kingdom which you know you can never establish in the presence of the Nuer and this makes you hate the Nuer and refuse to recognise their countless good deeds to you. You have even forgotten that they allow you to lead undisturbed.

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                              • 7 November 2012 12:49, by Rommel

                                Mi diit:
                                Allowed!? You, slave, allowed us to lead!? You, Bashir’s little dogs returned in 2006. There was nothing you could have possibly have done to us. You live in a fantasy world. You are absolutely amusing. Do you know that? You are amusing precisely because of your delusions of grandeur, tribal nationalism - and your unbridled contempt for one tribe in particular.

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                        • 7 November 2012 10:09, by Mi diit

                          Rommel,
                          The Nuer conquered your lands in Upper Nile and Bahr el Gazal. Places like Mayom in Bahr el Ghazal were conquered also. You are known for provoking the Nuer in history. The Luac Jang which Ngundeng struck dead came to attack the Nuer without warning. Betrayal? What was George Kongor, Abel Alier, Moses Machar, etc. doing with Khartoum? Do you condemn yourselves as Dinka in general?

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                          • 7 November 2012 10:14, by Mi diit

                            They were in Khartoum as ceremonial vice presidents for the sole purpose of planning the war against South Sudan. Those of Paulino Matip went to Khartoum as a result of unwise approach of leadership by late Garang which resulted to conflicts and divisions. But your Dinka uncles I have mentioned voluntarily submitted themselves as slaves to inform Arabs and kill the South for ever. Shame!!!1

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                            • 7 November 2012 13:31, by Rommel

                              The fact that the traitors that you mentioned were Dinka has absolutely no bearing on the Dinka community, as they were not provided with material or personnel from the Dinka tribe. Our traitors are reviled, rejected and resisted. You put your traitors on a pedestal and constantly make excuses for them.

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                          • 7 November 2012 10:29, by Rommel

                            It is particularly dangerous to make facile assumptions about abilities in warfare based on past performance, for societies evolve and so does the military subculture with it. No one in South Sudan has contributed more soldiers, more martyrs during the war than have the Dinka.

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                            • 7 November 2012 10:33, by Rommel

                              We fought an enemy infinitely smarter than you, infinitely better resourced, far more organized, more numerous, coherently structured, strategically apt; an enemy that brought to the theatre of war a palette of advanced and horrifically destructive weaponry.

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                              • 7 November 2012 10:34, by Rommel

                                We fought Khartoum virtually without you [post 1991] – with James Hoth Mai and his small handful of men being the only exception from a community that was for the most part determined to capriciously provide its services to their masters in Khartoum.

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                                • 7 November 2012 10:36, by Rommel

                                  Your numbers have only increased in the SPLA [post combat]... after all the fighting was done, after precious blood was expended to recapture the vast majority of our land from your masters. You have been in the armed services of Khartoum for decades, and you returned after all the fighting, after the anguish and self-sacrifice

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                                  • 7 November 2012 10:38, by Rommel

                                    .. and now you dare call us slaves and cowards. This slander has no meaning coming from the likes of you. While others have provided mere streams of blood sacrifice... we have provided oceans of blood; eclipsing the contributions of others, many, many times over. We will not be continuously bad-mouthed by boastful slaves!

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                                    • 7 November 2012 10:40, by Rommel

                                      I am not saying that you did not fight, but I am saying that the Dinka contributed more personnel, more blood and more martyrs. Other South Sudanese demonstrated intermittent commitment to the struggle... the Dinka, however, displayed and demonstrated unparalleled and unremitting resistance, without interruption. The Nuba are the only people who provided equal service.

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                                      • 7 November 2012 10:41, by Rommel

                                        The enemy faced us in the front, they hired you in the back. Men who recieved weapons, ammunition & supplies from the enemy, and relied on that stream... are treacherous SLAVES! I don’t view the Nuer as my enemy, but it’s clear some of you view us with a contempt that far exceeds the hate you harbour toward our common enemy.

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                                        • 7 November 2012 10:42, by Rommel

                                          The good old days of raiding the divided Dinka with impunity are over... And are NEVER to return. It’s nostalgia isn’t it? The war has been a blessing in disguise, it has forced the Dinka to unify. Stop dreaming of tribal warfare... it won’t turn out the way the way you want it to turn out.

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                                          • 7 November 2012 11:18, by Mi diit

                                            Rommel,
                                            As usual you have helplessly resorted to telling lies. Tell me which towns did the coward Dinka capture alone without the Nuer and the rest during the 21 years of war (1991-2005). Most of the towns were captured by non Dinka officers and men in the SPLA. Even after 1991 split half of the Nuer were still on SPLA side despite your rapid loss of towns as a result of losing some Nuer.

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                                            • 7 November 2012 11:22, by Mi diit

                                              Commanders like John Kong and Wang Chiok besieged Juba itself. Your cowards such as Bior Ajang refused to command the forces targetting Juba bridge. Ah, so now you beg me to believe that your cowardice has changed with time. No, weapons change but courage remains in place. You have no long courage. You can fight well today but tomorrow you disarray when the enemy shows strength. The Nuer endure...

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                                              • 7 November 2012 11:50, by Mi diit

                                                If in 1991 the Nuer wanted to capture the Kenyan and Ugandan borders, they would do it with ease. You were in disarray and confused. But Riek Machar said no. He clearly told his forces that he didn’t want Garang destroyed militarily because the Arabs would immediately turn against the Nasir faction. He said what he was doing was just a strategy that will end up in peaceful political settlement.

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                                            • 7 November 2012 11:37, by Rommel

                                              Mi diit:
                                              You don’t like what I’ve said, because it’s the truth. You’re the one with a history of telling veritable lies. The split in the movement was on tribal lines; the small handful of Nuer that stayed were commanded over by James Hoth Mai. The SPLA was weakened not solely by Nuer dejection in the 1990s, but by other exigent circumstances...

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                                              • 7 November 2012 11:41, by Rommel

                                                .. the overthrow of Mengistu - our primary supplier of hardware, material and logistical support. Your self-congratulatory rant (amusing as it was) regarding the execrable condition of the SPLA in the 1990’s, woefully ignores or fails to take into consideration the tremendously important concurrent events of that time...

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                                                • 7 November 2012 11:44, by Rommel

                                                  ..the devastating lost of the SPLA’s most important source of military supplies and logistics – and the most important factor of all… your alliance with Khartoum, an adversary with over a hundred thousand men, accompanied by bombers, jets, helicopter gunships and the tens of thousands of aligned militiamen – both from the North; the PDF and the Murahaleen and from the South...

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                                                  • 7 November 2012 11:47, by Rommel

                                                    Matip, Gadet, Koang and an inexhaustible list of others. But if you wish to indulge in this laughable fantasy in which you somehow inflicted this devastating blow all on your own… be my guest. Bravo! It seems that historical accuracy doesn’t much bode well with your mythical, feel good narrative.

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                                                    • 7 November 2012 12:07, by Rommel

                                                      Can you please provide citations and quotes from a reputable historian affirming your distorted version as fact. I want citations from the work of a historian in which Riek purposely told his grunts to pull back. He said this and she said that, doesn’t work for me. Provide me with evidence.

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                                                    • 7 November 2012 12:12, by Mi diit

                                                      Rommel,
                                                      Look at your short-sighted tribal definition of the split in 1991. Your incorrect definition put Nuer and Dinka wrongly against each other. The split was not tribal, it was political. 1) Self determination, 2) Democratic tansformation of the movement and 3) Respect for human rights were the three core pilars for the split. Are these values only meant for the Nuer community? Shame on you

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                                                      • 7 November 2012 12:18, by Mi diit

                                                        Rommel,
                                                        It is strange that you only believe in historian books and not what actually took place on the ground yesterday in front of our eyes. Okay you can believe the British books on how the Nuer conquered you centuries ago. But did the British historian write about Dinka fighting Turks or was it Dinka writing falsely for themselves? What about SPLA?

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                                                        • 7 November 2012 12:58, by Rommel

                                                          Mi diit:
                                                          Various historians have written quite extensively on the matter of Dinka resistance to condominium rule, including the author that Kim Deng keeps on quoting as if he wrote the material himself. You may not like the truth, but there’s absolutely nothing you can do about, because it is immortal.

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                                                      • 7 November 2012 12:32, by Rommel

                                                        Mi diit:
                                                        Whatever the stated reasons for the Nasir Declaration, the split in the movement was on tribal lines. You were not the majority in the armed forces before the split and you certainly were not the majority after the split.

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                                                        • 7 November 2012 12:35, by Rommel

                                                          Your ceaseless homilies on democracy and accountability are entirely divorced from reality.
                                                          The Nasir Declaration came into being for the stated reason (s) that Dr. John Garang and the SPLM/A was operating in the absence of democratic ideals and institutions. Riek as a man that so strenuously promulgated his (pretended) belief in democratic ideals and institutional reforms...

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                                                          • 7 November 2012 12:37, by Rommel

                                                            .. failed completely! The Nasir faction did not introduce greater transparency & accountability in its own movement, it had in fact committed egregious human rights abuses on a wide scale. Prior to his death, Joseph Oduho lambasted the Nasir faction for being authoritarian.

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                                                            • 7 November 2012 12:41, by Rommel

                                                              Whatever the cosmetic or purely theoretical aspects of SPLM/A administration (prior to the split), it can be contrasted with Nasir, where there were no similar civil administrative structures and where much of what was announced in the form of internal organisation existed on paper only. The excuse Riek offered at the founding SSIM conference was that his movement lacked trained personnel.

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                                                              • 7 November 2012 13:24, by Rommel

                                                                You have an almost child-like, vivid and naive imagination.
                                                                The disintegration of the Nasir faction was precipitated by the desertions of its representatives and men, en masse.
                                                                All cited serious shortcomings in the "movement" in their reasons for leaving: the concentration of power in the hands of Riek, the lack of democratic institutions, and the rising level of violence against civilians.

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                                                                • 7 November 2012 19:31, by Mi diit

                                                                  Rommel,
                                                                  You can try to work hard to deny all the achievements Riek championed. Riek is far more democratic with quality personality than any of your leaders dead or alive. He is the only shinning star who is actively behind any positive changes in this country. Garang understood him better. But I know it is difficult to change the likes of you who are determined thieves without any vision.

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                                                                  • 7 November 2012 20:32, by Rommel

                                                                    Mi diit:
                                                                    Shining star!? Behind any positive changes in the country!? It almost seems as though you’re describing a celestial being. Do you just sit there (alone) pondering on what you wished had happened? What you wish you could attribute to Riek Machar, like some pagan observant, offering gifts to his divine, infallible and omnipotent god?

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                                                      • 8 November 2012 07:06, by Mangoor

                                                        Midiit, your question should be reversed this way. what town was captured by Nuer without Dinka? Obviously, your question betrayed you to the point that made readers know that you are ignorant about the history of Struggle for the past 21 yrs.
                                                        For your information, Jokow was captured for the first time in 1985 by two Battalions of Koryom. These Battalions were Dominantly consisted of Dinka Bor men

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                                                        • 8 November 2012 07:23, by Mangoor

                                                          Boma, the first town where the SPLM/A Flag was raised was captured by Agreb(Scorpion) Battalion which was free from Nuer. Kapoeta was captured 1987 by Bee, Neran, and Agreb Battalions which dominantly consisted of Dinka men. SPLM/A remobilized in 1996 - 2002 and captured Achwa, Magwi, Yei, Rumbek, Tonj, Warap, Gokrial, Kapoeta, Torit,Kurmuk, Kor Yabus etc. All these towns were captured minus nuer

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                                                          • 8 November 2012 07:34, by Mangoor

                                                            You ought to stop bragging about James Hoth because he did not fight during the years after split. It was him, John kong, and a few others who could not fight a platoon of Arab forces let alone capturing a garrison. Dr. John Garang kept james Hoth in his escort because of fear that he might be murdered by relatives whom their brothers were lynched in Nasir.

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                                                            • 8 November 2012 07:44, by Mangoor

                                                              Gen. Bior whom you talked nonsense about is the one who taught the Nuer unforgettable lesson in Panyagoor from 1994 -2005. Kwach Kang Rial, Joseph Oduho, and other warlords from Nuer were killed by forces commanded by gen. Bior. Riek Machar escaped death Narrowly until he left his wife’s dogs. Bior names the dog as Emma after the Riek’s Concubine Emma Mcunne.

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                                                              • 8 November 2012 07:56, by Mangoor

                                                                Midiit,Dinka Bor men are by far braver and patriotic more than Nuer. I have already mentioned towns that were captured by Dinka Bor alone. mentioned the towns captured by Nuer alone.We fought Arab and Nuer without changing positions for the last 21 yrs of the civil war. Nuer finally joined us at the end of the war to enjoy. Nuer is full of provocateurs who do not know how to win wars.

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                                                        • 8 November 2012 07:31, by Mi diit

                                                          Mangoor,
                                                          Don’t lie. When did Dinka Bor know how to fight? Better those of Bahr el Ghazal to brag. Your coward general Bior Ajang was shivering like a weak woman when he was asked to attack Juba. Even John Garang himself had never in his life time fired a bullet directly at Arabs as a true soldier. Riek directly commanded many battles including Mayom battle where he wounded President Bashir.

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                                                          • 8 November 2012 08:04, by Mangoor

                                                            Dr. John Garang did not need to fire bullets to prove that he fought. As a matter of fact Dr. Garang fought in Anyanya one, he also fought a number of times during the past civil war. That was accidental in some places where the SPLA were attacked in his presence. I know you don’t know this fact because you have never been in the SPLA/A war zones.

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                                                            • 8 November 2012 08:08, by Mangoor

                                                              We his fighters did not like him to fire bullets. His work of providing weapons and diplomatic propagation on behalf of the SPLM/A was enough for him. we protected him because he was number one valuable human resource to win the war against Arab.

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                                      • 7 November 2012 12:15, by Thonjiang

                                        I hope, al bashir will be recovered well until his time come to our follow leader Dr garang. if you killed , you would be killed one day and if you have respect human being you died later on and go in the right hand of my mighty father ,God.

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              • 7 November 2012 09:28, by Mi diit

                Rommel,
                You seem to be the only wise Dinka still alive. But why don’t advice this tribally sick Dinka Dominated Whatever not to provoke me. Does he understand that his hate preach against Nuer can bring back the history to life? Does he want me to conquer his villages and make him my slave like in the past? There is no British to save him this time. The UN is also tired of defending thieves.

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                • 7 November 2012 09:39, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                  Mi toot, There is empty time right now because we are not fighting with Arab so you are free to bring it on, something I’m doubt about it because if you can not do anything with what I have done to your fake general, right now, you will never do anything for ever nor you have done anything to Dinka before, stop empty threat, I’m looking forward to see how Nuer is powerful,

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                  • 7 November 2012 09:47, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                    In a competition of food and Nyagatism, you people are drived by food, how can a community of food warrior be able to fight the warriors of land and freedom? All Dinka are wise but you dragged them down for betraying them ever time with low viission of shot cut and lack of strategy, you just sumed what you will never have in your low life, who will face Dinka in war? No one just start war to die

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                • 7 November 2012 09:50, by Rommel

                  Mi diit:
                  You are very well aware of the fact that I and countless other Dinka discussants have reproved, condemned and ridiculed this man countless times... but how many times have you condemned Kim Deng!? Ah, that’s right, you’ve NEVER condemned him for the virulent tribal hatred that he constantly spews.

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                  • 7 November 2012 10:29, by Mi diit

                    Rommel,
                    Do you see Kim Deng commenting every day like your Dinka Dominated Whatever? No, because we have restrained Kim Deng unless he is provoked frequently by your thugs. That is when he comes back to comment. Please don’t lie. You don’t have discipline in your culture. Your culture is always a master vs slave relationship. You only lick the feet of the victor who whips you painfully.

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                    • 7 November 2012 10:32, by Mi diit

                      This means that any sign of discipline in the Dinka culture is only driven by fear of the powerful or master (beny or benydit). Without fear the Dinka community is always chaotic and stupid. You only respond to fear and kneel down before power immediately. While the Nuer are voluntary in discipline. They respect good people and disrespect the arrogant or those who show the muscles of power.

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                      • 7 November 2012 10:51, by Rommel

                        Mi diit:
                        Kim Deng doesn’t need to post his idiotic statements on a daily basis for him to be condemned by you or anyone else from your tribe. You know it, I know and everyone else here knows it: There are times in which Kim Deng will gratuitously insult the Dinka when unprovoked or when the article that he’s responding to shares absolutely nothing in common with the contents of his posts.

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                        • 7 November 2012 11:05, by Rommel

                          I just love how you have billed your people as disciplined and noble, when this couldn’t be further from the truth. Where was this nobility when Paulino Matip displaced 80, 000 Nuer civilians from Unity State, who were then welcomed with open arms in Bahr el Ghazal!? Why didn’t you stop Matip from clearing the oil-fields!? Because you were afraid of him!

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                          • 7 November 2012 11:20, by Rommel

                            If we only respond to fear and brutality, then why didn’t we bow down to your masters after losing over a million people!? After absorbing most of the misery and pain on the border while Nuer militias worked hand in hand with Khartoum!? The only other people who have suffered as much are the Nuba. You were unscathed because you were largely compliant with Khartoum.

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                            • 7 November 2012 11:29, by Mi diit

                              Rommel,
                              Don’t burry yourself in a false comfort that you resisted both Khartoum and Nuer war in 1991. The Nuer did not declare war against the SPLA or Dinka as you want it believed. Riek frustrated the Khartoum’s plan to capture Kenya and Uganda borders. Others, it would have taken only one month to flush you out from South Sudan if Riek and Bashir declared that war you thought had happened.

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                              • 7 November 2012 11:33, by Mi diit

                                But there is a saying that when you slap a coward with only one finger, he thinks that you have used all the five fingers and cries bitterly. You did cry bitterly to the international community that a big war was being waged against your, when in fact it was just skimishes.

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                                • 7 November 2012 11:54, by Rommel

                                  Mi diit:
                                  So you weren’t trying after all, slave!? Interesting. You are hilarious. Entire Nuer sections would beg Khartoum for weapons to fight us. Riek did not complicate anything for your masters. He did all he could to further their aims. they discarded him, precisely because Matip was a far more loyal slave. He saved Bashir’s life twice.

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                                  • 7 November 2012 12:00, by Rommel

                                    The stated aim of your slave leader was to overthrow the late Dr. John Garang de Mabior, but now you’re desperately trying to challenge the veracity of this!? If the Ruweng and Panaruu Dinka didn’t resist you and your master, then what did they do!? The Ruweng lost half its population because of your alliance with Khartoum!

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                                    • 7 November 2012 12:37, by Mi diit

                                      Rommel,
                                      I don’t believe in your exaggerated data. They lost half of population, bla, bla, bla. It is not like exaggerating a population in order to get more food ration or get attention as victims. The Dinka always want to sound like victims. If the Nuer wanted to uproot the Dinka populations in Upper Nile region they would do it in a week. We NEVER declared war against the Dinka. Believe me!

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                                      • 7 November 2012 13:37, by Rommel

                                        Mi diit:
                                        It doesn’t matter what you are willing to believe, slave. This has all been documented and I will provide evidence for this. The Ruweng Dinka of Biemnom and Panaruu of Pariang were the vanguard force in Unity state. You can certainly dream of displacing the Dinka... but it wont happen.

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                                      • 7 November 2012 14:44, by Badi Malawi

                                        Midiit,
                                        why are you praising bashir isnt he fuck your mum to born you?

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      • 7 November 2012 07:46, by Rommel

        Mi diit
        What are you *thanking* Bashir for!? The prime reason Bashir relinquished our ravaged, blood-soaked homeland, was quite simply due to the immense and unparalleled ’international’ pressure that was brought to bear on his Islamist, supremacist, dictatorial and *genocidal* regime!

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        • 7 November 2012 08:05, by Rommel

          His Islamist regime took every opportunity availed to it during the Interim period to try to defer, derail and sabotage the Referendum. I estimate that around 40, 000km2 of our land is still under occupation — and so I don’t thank him...

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          • 7 November 2012 08:14, by Rommel

            ..I wish him a full and speedy recovery, so that he may see the day in which the people he so derisively calls insects turn into Titans and descend upon him with the speed, mass and force of an avalanche and the deafening and striking power of a thunderbolt!

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            • 7 November 2012 08:32, by Rommel

              My people, the Ruweng of Biemnom lost half of their population and more than half of their land in their resistance to the SAF, the PDF, murahaleen and Matip’s and Riek’s militia forces. Our Paramount chief, the late Camilo Kuot Kur Kuot was gruesomely beheaded by those you so obscenely wish to thank.

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              • 7 November 2012 08:45, by Rommel

                It is your right and prerogative to thank Bashir as many times as you like, but I just want a caveat from you explaining that you thank our butcher in your name and your name only. I recall Taban Deng formally ceding Mijak-yiith ("Karassana") to South Kordofan in 2008 in the belief that our people had no right to be in their own homeland...

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                • 7 November 2012 09:04, by Rommel

                  .. and for that I want the Ruweng of Biemnom and the Panaruu of Panriang to form their own State — Apadang State. Our States must be created on the basis of one exceedingly important question: Can the various tribes in this State get along!? And: Do they share common interests? Or are they starkly opposed? Is there a history of acrimony, distrust and internecine warfare?

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                  • 7 November 2012 14:15, by Logic

                    Rommel & Mil-Dit
                    Wasted intelligence. Its sad to read your comments!

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      • 7 November 2012 08:23, by Ruach

        Folks: Bashir is not longer alive! These media speculations are true as they are talking of who will succeed him

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      • 7 November 2012 08:23, by Ruach

        Folks: Bashir is not longer alive! These media speculations are true as they are talking of who will succeed him. Rest in hell(RIH)!

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    • 7 November 2012 07:32, by Peacocktail

      Sudan will Never get such a leader like field Marshal Al Bashir.Taha is more worse then any Leader, He is involved in murdering and assassination of late Dr. Garang, if thing get out of his path as Sudan had many problems, He will be involved in Assassination South Sudanese Leaders, we need to be careful with Taha Ali is selected to Succeed Bashir, God don’t take him now, Sudan need him, he resist

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    • 7 November 2012 07:45, by zulu

      Requiem for Beshir who will finally face justice in the face of God though he hs escaped the ellusive justice of humanity

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  • 7 November 2012 07:23, by Akol Liai Mager

    I predict that there would be no peaceful succession or transition for Presidency in Khartoum. The four giant Devcils of NIF of whom 2 are civilians Taha and Not-Nafie Ali Not-Nafie and two Militiamen Bakry Hassan Salah and Abderahaman SirelKhatim will fight through. All these mentioned devils carry the same DNA of NIF Evilism.

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    • 7 November 2012 08:03, by Robot

      I don’t understand all those comments, i mean to say why are we bothering ourselves with the evils??, it is the same vocal that uttered the word "INSECTS", then followed prostate cancer,, He must experience this pains... DIE SLOW MR. BASHIR".
      BYEEEE!!.

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      • 7 November 2012 08:36, by Northern Sudanese

        Robot
        Your are so dumb, how can you wish someone pain and death? he called SPLA members insect, not robot fools!

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        • 7 November 2012 10:45, by Robot

          Northern shit,
          you are chewing more than you can swallow, anyway it is your habit of throwing your tongues a high gear as i always said, there is no need to be emotional, accept the bitter truth and it is up to you in the desert. GOOD LUCK.

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  • 7 November 2012 08:34, by Northern Sudanese

    President Bashir has become very old, he is 68 nearly 70 years old. its normal that old people get ill. i am sure he will be back in office as soon as he recovers.

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    • 7 November 2012 08:40, by allan

      Hope that will be the end of al bashir life i hater that guy

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    • 7 November 2012 15:09, by Badi Malawi

      Northern sudanese,
      the days of bashir are numbered even if obama has been re-elected again then the almighty father (God) and israel plus our mightiest forces will soon back all the lands that were occupied by fuck arabs

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  • 7 November 2012 08:40, by pabaak

    Who ever think that AL Bashir deserve thank for the South Sudan freedom, he was had no alternatives as he was unable to fight many wars at the time,in South, East, Wast, so he was confused and try to get easy exit by accepting CPA, his hope was that rebels in West and Nuba, ANgsna will surrender to him again but his calculations are becoming wrongs

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    • 7 November 2012 08:57, by Northern Sudanese

      pabaak
      don’t make up lies, when CPA was signed Spla was on the borders with Uganda

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  • 7 November 2012 08:56, by Northern Sudanese

    At least there is good news, Barack Obama won!!! who knows what Romney was going to do, either supply South Sudan with weapons or pushing even more pressure on Sudan and support rebels financially and militarily . Congratulations mr. Obama

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  • 7 November 2012 09:00, by Northern Sudanese

    To those who wish Bashir to die
    I wish you all die, either from Starvation or in US prisons. Those who died in Heglig and war died in pride, you will die of humiliation in all US prisons

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  • 7 November 2012 13:12, by Wrong Chemical

    The rumors are further fueled by the fact that since August, the time of his first operation, he has noticeably made few appearances and refrained from his habit of giving long and loudly-uttered public speeches.true if Bashir can’t following that definitely you will soon.

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  • 7 November 2012 13:12, by Wrong Chemical

    The rumors are further fueled by the fact that since August, the time of his first operation, he has noticeably made few appearances and refrained from his habit of giving long and loudly-uttered public speeches.true if Bashir can’t following that definitely you will soon.

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  • 7 November 2012 13:34, by Wrong Chemical

    commentaries where is Omar Yaraduu of Nigeria ?
    he die of same sickness.
    And where is omar Obongo of commeron?
    all of these president were been taken to Saudi-arab & no hope as now,Almighty of Africa has punished names so call Omar, I swear Omar Bashir will not come back here in sudan b’se next to door is ICC step in too right now in Saudi arabia
    what a bad bad luck, oooh ’’ALLAH HAKABEER’’

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  • 7 November 2012 13:44, by Wrong Chemical

    Who is president now ? is it Ali Osman taha ’’NO’’
    Nafi Al Nafi ’’No’’
    Hassein Haruon ’’big no’’ indicted man
    Hassein Trabbi moderate.

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  • 7 November 2012 14:59, by Mapuor

    Cancer is a terminal disease the prognosis of which is death due to major organs failure including cardiac arrest.The first vice president is the suitable candidate becoz he is the second most powerful man in Khartoum today.Bashir will be judge by God not humans.

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  • 7 November 2012 16:41, by Kim Deng

    Rommel (Dr. Luka) and likes,
    Dr. Riek was compelled to declare Nasir move, not only because Mr. Garang was running the movement like his own property which was acknowledged by Lt. Gen. Salva Kiir after it was already too late in 2004 when he find himself openly at odds with his superior, but due to lack of clear directions, objectives, principles and human rights for/in the movement.

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  • 7 November 2012 16:42, by Kim Deng

    Therefore, if the Naath/Nuer as a community has been hungry for leadership as Jaang/Dinka always shamelessly claims it, why would Lt. Col Samuel Gai Tut select Mr. Akuot Atem who is a Dinka by tribe to be the leader of the movement in 1983 if not only the selection was rejected by Mr. Marxist-Leninist Garang? Why would CDR. William Nyuon Bany aim his Pistol at Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut,...

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  • 7 November 2012 16:43, by Kim Deng

    Copra Abdalla William Chuol Deng and their supporters just to secure another Dinkaman, Mr. Garang’s leadership?

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  • 7 November 2012 16:44, by Kim Deng

    In the Garangist mental scheme, all the “anti-New Sudan,” who still believes in Anya-Nya II vision of secession must be eliminated. As far as Garang knew, the SPLA forces under his commands had every reason to believe that they had upper hand and that they could make it all the way to Nasir. Garang thought that the SPLM/A-Nasir faction under the command of Dr. Riek was very weak,...

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  • 7 November 2012 16:45, by Kim Deng

    demoralized and incapable of defending its Headquarters, Nasir let alone taking offensive operations. Shortly after Nasir Declaration of August 28, 1991 was announced, Garang declared, “the Gang of two Drs,” as he prefers to call them [Dr. Riek & Dr. Lam] “must be given their last blow.” He went further, “we will break them down soon, and it is a matter of time before we bring the separatists...

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  • 7 November 2012 16:53, by Kim Deng

    to the vision of no-return.” After Garang’s statements were intercepted by SPLM/A-Nasir faction, Lt. Gen. Tiger Bol Koang declared that “the very existence of the SPLM/A-Nasir faction is in danger,” and demanded that “all soldiers stand firm and fight to last drop of blood.”

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  • 7 November 2012 16:55, by Kim Deng

    Many areas including major towns: Torit, Kapoeta, Mading Bor … were recaptured and/or surrendered to the common enemy as a result of split. The remaining few garrisons and towns under the control of Torit faction were on the verge of panic of evacuation either to Uganda or Kenya refugees camps as well. Garang was blinded by his burning conviction that Torit faction had to defeat and subjugates...

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  • 7 November 2012 16:56, by Kim Deng

    the Nasir faction, a movement that he contemptuously dismissed as “a Gang of two Drs.” Garang himself suffered a near psychological collapse as his faction looked as though it might implode. Garang’s forces should have been crushed/break down and/or chased up to Kenya/Uganda-Sudan borders if Dr. Riek was for military option rather than reconciliation through peaceful dialogues instead.

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  • 7 November 2012 16:57, by Kim Deng

    Garang’s “New Sudan,” vision did not accomplish anything, but setbacks, chaos, death, subjugation by terror and epic conflicts. It was Garang’s ambition in war that compelled Nasir faction to take immediate retaliatory-military countermeasures. The burning questions are: What prompted Garang to be the first to ignite the fire which he could not extinguish? Did Garang’s SPLA/M have the political...

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  • 7 November 2012 16:58, by Kim Deng

    will and muscles to confront both the main enemy (NIF/NCP) and the separatists at the same time?

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  • 7 November 2012 17:00, by Kim Deng

    The SPLA/M division between the separatists and unionists should not justify the merits to classify the SPLM/A and/or GoSS as a Dinka movement/gov’t just simply because the two leaders, Col. Dr. Garang and Lt. Gen. Salva Kiir hail from that ethnic group. If this is the case, as some folks claim it, Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut, Col. Dr. Garang plus many others should have not joined the...

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  • 7 November 2012 17:01, by Kim Deng

    Anya-Nya I [SSLM/A] under the leadership of Joseph Lagu, but viewed it as Madi’s movement.

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  • 7 November 2012 17:10, by Kim Deng

    Nuer Vs. Coward Jaang/Slaves,
    Had the Nuer ever wished to occupy the whole greater Upper Nile, from Renk to Mading Bor and from Ruweng/Biemnom to Buma-Gambella, it seems unlikely that the other coward Jurs (Jaang, Teet, Bar, Chai…) could have stopped them.

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    • 8 November 2012 04:04, by AUGUSTINO DENG

      Kim Deng,
      Nuer characteristics will destroy you and even the whole Nuer people.When Feign Riek Machar became a doctor after he bought a PhD Degree from British, all entired Nuer people called themselves doctors. For example, Dr.Matip Nhial, Dr.John Luke, Dr.Peter Gatdet Yak, Dr.Gatluak Gai, Dr.Tanginye, Dr.Monytuil Wujang and so forth.How stupid is that? All Nuer people are only good for food.

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    • 8 November 2012 04:11, by AUGUSTINO DENG

      Kim Deng,
      I don’t think that Nuer occupied Ruweng territory of Dinka Ruweng community of Biemnom county in Unity State. The only people in Unity State that makes up the Unity State to stand and known today as a State is the only two Dinka Communities such as: Dinka Ruweng of Biemnom county and Dinka Panaruu of Panrieng county. Without these Dinka in Unity State, all Nuer can be married to arabs.

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    • 8 November 2012 04:25, by AUGUSTINO DENG

      Kim Deng,
      I wanted to tell you something here. On 02/16/1989 before Sadiq El Mahidi left power in Khartoum to Omar Bashir, he signed documentary that stated that "All Nuer people who rebel aganist SPLM/SPLA should be taken first to what is called "Secret Room" were they will be fucked inside the room and get mark on their butts so that the can receive ranks. All Nuer went,but Dinka people did not.

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      • 8 November 2012 04:32, by AUGUSTINO DENG

        Part of the paragraph: When all Nuer people in Khartoum went under this program,majorities of all Nuer in Khartoum received more ranks through fucking from Arabs. I am proud to be called Dinka. I am the father of the Nation like "Abrahim Lincoln" All Nuer people in South Sudan are "Third class Citizen".You guys are very lucky to have Dinka People in South Sudan,otherwise arabs could fucked you all

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    • 8 November 2012 04:43, by AUGUSTINO DENG

      Kim Deng,
      Put it in your mind that,a "Dog can bark and became wild, but still it came back to it owner."I believe Dinka people are they life and green light to all the Southerners.Iam sure whether you know it or not.There was one of the Khartoum commander who passed away in Helicopter crash in Blue Nile some few months ago called Abugurun.He said that if you captured Nuer, fuck and don’t kill him

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      • 8 November 2012 04:53, by AUGUSTINO DENG

        Part of the paragraph: That statement was quoted by the Late Abugurun who passed away in Kaguli during an airplane crash. And then again he said that if you find a Dinka guy, kill him on spot.All Nuer people are so naive that even the turn what will benefit them to a useless one.I myself Augustino Deng, I am native Dinka and I can not give my body for sex just to get ranks like Nuer. Fuck all Nuer

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    • 8 November 2012 04:55, by AUGUSTINO DENG

      Thank You Mr.Kim Deng.
      By Augustino Deng. Jech la mer from Tharpam.

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  • 7 November 2012 17:10, by Kim Deng

    The vast area appropriated by the Nuer during the nineteenth century was formerly occupied by a Dinka, Anyuak and Burun population. The fate of this population is one of the most interesting questions pertaining to Nuer expansion. How many Dinka, Anyuak, Burun… were killed by the Nuer? How many died of starvation? How many migrated to other areas? And how many were assimilated into Nuer community?

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  • 7 November 2012 17:12, by Kim Deng

    Lacking the capacity to mount an offensive counterattack, the Dinka, Anyuak, Burun… had no recourse other than withdrawal. Under these circumstances, the rapid Nuer Conquest/occupation of the vast Western Dinka region [Mayom, Mankien…], Southern Dinka region [Nyuong Nuer territory], Central Dinka region [Fangak, Ayod, Waat…], Eastern Dinka, Anyuak and Burun region...

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  • 7 November 2012 17:12, by Kim Deng

    Lacking the capacity to mount an offensive counterattack, the Dinka, Anyuak, Burun… had no recourse other than withdrawal. Under these circumstances, the rapid Nuer Conquest/occupation of the vast Western Dinka region [Mayom, Mankien…], Southern Dinka region [Nyuong Nuer territory], Central Dinka region [Fangak, Ayod, Waat…], Eastern Dinka, Anyuak and Burun region...

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  • 7 November 2012 17:13, by Kim Deng

    [Eastern Jikany Nuer and Lou Nuer territory] is not difficult to understand.

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    • 7 November 2012 18:59, by Ruach

      Romel(Luka Biong):You really talked a lot igniting the dinka/Jaang/slave superiority.I believe you will develop throat cancer that has killed Mr Bashir after insulting the Nuer Heros who cratched his forces insects in Heglig/Panthou! I thought you are doctor of all tribes,but a dr with brain cancer that will actually destroy this nation!

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      • 7 November 2012 19:43, by Mi diit

        Ruach,
        Dr. Luka Biong Deng (Rommel) thinks that we don’t know him. He can write under that anonymous name after losing position in government and at the same time seeing his Abyei slipping away from his fingers. He should blame his grandfather who sold Abyei to Khartoum. Let him leave us alone. See how he dreams of creating a state for Ruweng, Padang to join with Abyei. Hopeless dream!

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  • 8 November 2012 03:52, by AUGUSTINO DENG

    Omar Bashir is good to go under operation or even death, as well as Salva Kiir Miyardit need to go under operation too. I am sick of these two leaders especially Salva Kiir himself.
    By Augustino Deng. Jech la mer from Tharpam.

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    • 8 November 2012 11:21, by Ruach

      Augustino Deng Jec Al Amer from Tharpaam!What does tharpaam mean in your language?Or you coin the word tharpaam from Nuer(Tharpaam means at the base of the mountain).You were a child soldier from Itang ’s mountain base in our land.Garciek thile mi ngaci!

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