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No talks with SPLM-N rebels before disengagement with S. Sudan - Khartoum

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October 2, 2012 (KHARTOUM) — Head of Sudanese negotiating team with Sudan People’s Liberation Movement- North (SPLM-N) said talks with the rebel group can start only after their total disengagement with South Sudan.

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A SPLM-N fighter stands near Gos village in the rebel-held territory of the Nuba Mountains in South Kordofan, May 1, 2012. (Reuters)

Sudan and SPLM-N were refusing to negotiate a peaceful settlement to their conflict over the implementation of a protocol pertaining to the Two Areas of South Kordofan and Blue Nile after Khartoum’s rejection of a framework agreement reached in June 2011.

After a UN resolution 2046 adopted last May, they held talks over the humanitarian access to the rebel areas and signed a deal last August but it remains unimplemented. On the political level the process is stalled as the SPLM-N demands a comprehensive talks and on the other hand, Khartoum demands that Juba stops first its support to the rebels.

In a briefing to Sudanese parliament, Kamal Obeid, who leads the government’s delegation for the talks with rebel group said that negotiations with the SPLM-N depend on the implementation of a security deal signed with the South Sudan which provides that Juba disengage militarily with the former members of the South Sudanese army, SPLA.

Following the briefing, Al-Basha Mohamed Al-Basha, a MP from South Kordofan state, told reporters that Kamal linked the negotiations with the disengagement between SPLM-N rebels and Juba.

After the signing of the deal, Sudan’s Defence minister Abdel-Rahim Hussein said that the security agreement with South Sudan includes a provision on the disengagement between the South Sudanese army and its "ninth and tenth divisions" in South Kordofan and Blue Nile, a mention to the SPLM-N rebels.

Al Basha furtehr said that some voices asked also to remove South Kordofan governor Ahmed Haroun from his position, considering he is accountable of the current crisis with the SPLM-N. He added that many others defended the governor for his efforts to bring stability in the state.

Haroun is blamed for his strong relations in the past with the SPLM-N deputy chairman Abdel Aziz Al-Hilu. Several tribal leaders previously demanded to relieve him but he is supported by the president Omer Al-Bashir.

Ahmed Krmeno, another member of the negotiating team, and former governor of Blue Nile state, told reporters that the meeting agreed that no talks with the rebels unless Juba relieves all the leaders of SPLM-N from its army and take decisions similar to what Khartoum did with the former militia leaders and southerners who were part of the Sudanese army.

"We are waiting from Juba, if it is serious, to disengage with the SPLM-N practically and constitutionally, economically and socially," he said.

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  • 3 October 2012 11:59, by Akol Liai Mager

    "I swear by Qura`an, no UN troops will ever be allowed to step their feet in Sudan’s Soil" (Criminal Al-Bashir). About 30,000 UN Troops are all over Northern Sudan cities and towns now. All Mahadi & Al-Mergani Sectarian Parties will not ever be allowed to practice politics in Sudan (Criminal Bashir). Today NIF Criminals relies on Mahadi and Merghani sectarian parties to cling onto power.

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    • 3 October 2012 12:03, by Akol Liai Mager

      Tomorrow NIF Criminals will surprised Northern Sudanese by offering the positions of First Vice President to Malik Agar, Wali of South Kordofan to Al-Hillu and Foriegn Affairs to Yasir Arman if the three men guaranteed them the continuation of NIF Criminal cling to power.

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      • 3 October 2012 13:01, by sudani ana

        Well Akol, for the first time ever I find myself inclined to agree with you. This NCP government have previously broken many promises. Yet I don’t think this would ever happen. Agar, Arman and Elhilo are loathed by the Sudanese people. I can’t see this happening anytime soon.

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        • 3 October 2012 14:02, by Logic

          "Agar, Arman and Elhilo are loathed by the Sudanese people"..looool, which Sudanese people are they? the ones who are spoon fed NCP propaganda daily or the 50,000+ freedom fighters under their command & the millions of marginalized civilians who agree with their charter. Stop fooling yourself! Sudanese are not only the elite and their followers in the centre.

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        • 3 October 2012 14:07, by Logic

          And ofcourse many of the (die hard want-to-be-accepted in the Arab world) n.Sudanese will never succumb to the idea of a Black leader like Agar to lead the country. Its just their twisted phycology towards the "African" people. But guess what, neither will we accept the status quo of your bigoted elite to rule us unjustly. RETARD

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          • 3 October 2012 14:49, by sudani ana

            North Sudan will never accept the idea of a traitor who fought with another country against his own national army to become a president. Nothing to do with colour.

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            • 3 October 2012 17:46, by Logic

              Sudani ana: "a traitor who fought with another country against his own national army to become a president" Where do you get the info that he wants to be president or that SAF is a national army but in name only? Those guys fought against SAF with their brothers not a foreign country, do you even know what you’re talking about! Pathetic retard.

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              • 3 October 2012 18:23, by sudani ana

                Yes I know what am talking about, unlike you. Agar fought against Sudan’s national army, did he not. SRF traitors fought with South Sudan when Heglig was invaded, is that not fighting with a foriegn country against your national army. I didn’t say he fought to be president. I meant no way that he can be president after this.

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                • 4 October 2012 00:49, by Logic

                  Sudani ana, you’re pathetically bias. Unless you accept the crimes of current & past Khartoum regimes against its own people, you’ll never rid yourself of this label: "BRAINWASHED", do some research young wo/man!

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            • 3 October 2012 17:50, by Logic

              Keep this up and soon N.Sudan will be a clutter of only three states! Don’t worry, at least you’ll have M.Ali, N.Sudanese, Dirty Jalabia, Darkanger, Master and the likes for company. Brainwashed retards.

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        • 3 October 2012 14:11, by Logic

          So in the end, either you sincerely respect the diversity of Sudan (doubtful) or prepare for another separation of what’s left of Sudan.

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          • 3 October 2012 16:26, by mohammed ali

            The illogical jalabi,it is amzing that you are so fond with word retarded.Is there anyone who calls you that word that much? I don’t understand that word ’divercity’ which is coming as if it is something new and we are just repeating in "a retarded" way! Where was this "diversity when the "red indian" were wiped from their owned land, or when the Aborgini were made to disappear in their own countr

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            • 3 October 2012 16:36, by mohammed ali

              con: or in New zealand " they call it New" or when they tried to do it in South Africa or Zimbabwei. Retarded are those who repeat these ’bluffing" words to use it against ’non-obedient" countries.Sudan is all about divesity, nobody is or could claim that he is of " pure" blood.This happend without lectures from abroad.Ironically we are imported the "diversity" it from the same pple,who..con

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              • 3 October 2012 16:51, by mohammed ali

                con:closed the borders so that pple can’t mix & exchange their human experience or blcked Nuba mountains & prohibited even the import of clothes in the area!Retarded pple will just listen "imperialist" propoganda while claiming to fight it!We can put to the presidency next time a very"white" man like Taha or"Swedish looking" Al Hag Adam.It might please"intelligent" pple who look at us as Retarded!

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            • 3 October 2012 17:55, by Logic

              M.Ali = RETARD! This brainwashed blind loyalist of the NCP, thinks by preaching about the imperialism practiced by the Whiteman he’s somehow vindicating the bigotry & imperialism practiced by African-Arab by-products of Sudan, are you sane? You people are so far up your own anus, am surprised you see the injustices of others at all.

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            • 3 October 2012 18:01, by Logic

              I’m not a Red Indian, Australian Aboriginal, South African Zulu nor a Zimbabwean. I’m a proud African Sudanese you retard, these people have suffered immensely under the Whiteman, what makes you think I will do nothing while your imperialist elite inflict the same hardship on my people? Man, I wonder why education seems to be wasted on some people. Pathetic really.

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              • 3 October 2012 18:37, by sudani ana

                Logic
                You keep singing your songs of doom. At the end of the day the problems in South Kordufan, Darfur and Blue Nile will be solved peacefully and you will die with your hatred.

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              • 3 October 2012 19:53, by mohammed ali

                The illogical jalabi, I think once you have agreed to speak with respect without using filthy language!It would rather be better to stick to that.These same pple who invaded others are the ones behind you and your claims.You are srving them conciously of unconciously.They are calling the same calls which you are repeating.They have always got a moral cause to justify their greed!

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                • 4 October 2012 00:58, by Logic

                  M.Ali, I don’t think calling me "illogogical jalabi" is respectful, so please stop your "lets be respectful ceremonial bullshit". Am always happy to have a debate with reasonable people, but with racists, brainwashed retards and intransigent bigots is a tough funny one. you THINK!

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                • 4 October 2012 01:09, by Logic

                  "These same pple who invaded others are the ones behind you and your claims" Are you e’fing serious? So the white-man, told the NCP to kill its own citizens. You’re a sorry ass apologist for this criminal regime, calling me a traitor, zionist etc etc doesn’t accelerate the continuing displacement of my people! wake up.

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          • 3 October 2012 20:03, by mohammed ali

            The illogical Jalabi, you are not telling us something new! We know that the zionist plan is to divide Sudan. They are using "retarded" "brainwashed" morons to do that.They have already seperated SS. The question is : are they going to succed in their next plan?Is the "dieappearance" of Zinawi going to help them? Are the Arab Spring changes going to make some difference? Think!

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    • 3 October 2012 15:18, by zulu

      Do they have any choice but to negotiate? Haven’t the ncp learnt a lesson from disarming now into a fierce full force of war from the 3 amigos? these folks are guerillas as I said, they are imuned to death and war. they’ve survived all odds of capture to kill and disease.

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  • 3 October 2012 12:59, by Jalaby

    Mr. No Logic
    Did you hear Tabitah Buttress speech of yesterday when she said "The status of SPLA-N now is clinical death status" - you know she was nurse in UK before!
    We told you guys from day 1 that Jonobean will sell you so cheaply when you become useless to them and after they achieve all their goals and interest through you "Useful Idiot"!

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    • 3 October 2012 13:05, by Jalaby

      We can accept Aggar and we can even give back BN governor to him but we don’t want your criminal Al-Hilo who assassinated Ibrahim Balandia, putting Telefone Kuku in jail, abducting chinese workers, stopping development in SK, terrorizing and killing innocent people!
      I suggest you have him live with you in US and enjoy the welfare!

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      • 3 October 2012 15:04, by Peacocktail

        Jallaba,
        Who told you that Sudan belong to you without His Execellency Gen.Al Hilu, please stop propaganda, Abdel Al Hilu Aziz shall be re instate to be Governor of SK, Malik Agar to be Vice President of Sudan and Yasir Arman to be Sudan Regional cooperation. South Sudan had no bussiness with your rebels, implement the agreement or continue to test bitterness of War with SPLA-N and SRF strong men

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    • 3 October 2012 13:33, by Junta

      Jallaby
      Illusions will always drive you to think that you are smarter! The fact is, SPLM-N is invincible! You will never crush them because the God will always defend the oppressed. Forget once and for all the notion that the security arrangement will put to an end the rebelion, instead, it will strengthen SPLM-N. Wait for your moaning thins dry season and this time don’t blame South Sudan again!

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    • 3 October 2012 13:36, by Junta

      SPLM-N has justified cause and they will continue to bear the torch for the marginalised and the Freedom loving Sudanese citizen! They will conquer and prosper in the Sudan and promote genuine peaceful coexistence between these sisterly countries unlike the generic coexistence of Sadig Al mahadi and NCP criminals!

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    • 3 October 2012 14:21, by Logic

      Dirty Jalabia
      Who in the creator’s name do you think you are to decide the faith of our freedom fighters? looooooooooool! wake up son, your criminal government has tried endlessley to assassinate them but failed miserably, Kuku is a traitor, Buttross has a house nigga mentality (loyal slave) and Kodi is a bitch. They prefer the handouts than the struggle for equality. lol

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    • 3 October 2012 14:30, by Logic

      Time will reveal to you the truth behind this movement, not traitors like Butross and likes. S.Sudan is housing 100s of thousands of SK & BN refugees, S.Sudanese have made the only reasonable choice of separating, as your superiority complex is beyond redemption for co-existence between the tribes of Sudan to be peaceful. Most Nubians empathize with S.Sudanese, so your rhetoric is useless. Retard

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  • 3 October 2012 13:21, by forza

    No more talk with SPLM-N.now they are really trapped as SPLA had decided to withdraw division 9/10 south of the border. Arman we are coming to get you from Juba bridge hotel along with alhilu and king kong . I advise you to start looking somewhere else as a refuge. People who sold their country are not welcomed here anymore.

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    • 3 October 2012 14:38, by Logic

      Forza
      If your over hyped pussycats (SAF) can’t touch our freedom fighters, how can a PC geek (internet warrior) like you even entertain the thought of "we’re coming for you" Looooool, funny dude! Get this through your thick racist skull, SPLA-N is a serious threat to the NCP, otherwise we wouldn’t even be discussing them. RETARD.

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      • 3 October 2012 15:18, by forza

        how funny it sounds "our freedom fighters" .yes SAF couldn’t touch them as they took refuge in s.sudan and preferred to live as cowards.now people in sudan and s.sudan figured out that there will be no peace unless rebel groups eliminated.why are you so afraid? i know that you will lose your job cleaning freedom fighters toilets but c’est la vie.you need to start your careere again from scratch.

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        • 3 October 2012 18:12, by Logic

          Forza, hahahahahahahaha
          I would rather clean the toilets of freedom fighters anyday than to lick the ass of genocidal maniacs like Bashir and co. If SPLA-N is hiding in S.Sudan, then Al-Jazeera, BCC are all conspirers, as they have been to rebel controlled areas in N.Sudan. Ask SAF (pussycats), they’ll reluctantly tell you the whereabouts of the real men.

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          • 3 October 2012 20:07, by forza

            these people can’t be in a battle field.they can’t be in SK/BN.they are busy kissing congressmen hands and live in hotels!!and when did they come to rebel controlled area?these guys dissolve like aspirin when the face SAF.arman/alhilu/agar and your likes don’t and willn’t represent people of SK/BN.you asylum seekers need to worry about your monthly allowance not freedom issues.

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            • 4 October 2012 01:30, by Logic

              Forza: Repeat after me, L.E.A.D.E.R.S, it means they’re not foot soldiers and don’t need to be on the battlefield. Bashir, is kissing ass & begging all over the Arab world while his genocidal militia (SAF) does the killing! So what’s your point? However, Aljazeera interviewed Alhilu in SK last yr! YOU supremacists have turned many Sudanese into asylum seekers, are you proud?

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        • 3 October 2012 18:15, by Logic

          If SPLA-N were hiding in S.Sudan, how come your pussycat spokesperson (Al Sawarmi) now and again claims victory of a liberated area from rebels. Do you retards actually think before you comment! Doubtful, you pathetic retards.

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      • 4 October 2012 13:40, by sudani ana

        Funny. SPLM/N weren’t much of a serious threat when the mighty (patriotic) SAF took Kurmuk, in fact they ran like headless chicken.

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  • 3 October 2012 14:28, by Frank Man

    Mmmm the situation of the SPLA/M-N is very complecated for us South Sudanese. They have been with us all through the struggle for freedom. ( Yusif Kuwa Many more of the Nubians and lost their lives for the sake of the libaration. Yet we need peaceful stay with our neighbours in Sudan. How Salva Kirr will handle this matter will be the test of his political maturity.

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  • 3 October 2012 14:42, by Frank Man

    But Salva Kirr (SPLM) should know the saying "a friend in need is a friend indeed" Yusif Kuwa, Malik Agar, Abel Aziz al Hilu and thousands of people in BN and SK have been there for us during the time we were in need. so we should be available for them when the also need us. It will be the greatest betrayal ever to abandone SPLA/M-North

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    • 3 October 2012 16:30, by sudani ana

      Not a betrayal, this is called peaceful co-existence with your neighbours, the first condition of which is NEVER interfer in their internal affairs period....

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  • 3 October 2012 17:03, by WEN NYANUT AGOTH

    SPLA-S THE MOTHER OF SPLA-N was like that and they have their right of self determination now so they will do it as well and they will have their right too GUYS

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  • 3 October 2012 17:55, by Marier Mading

    guys cool, every thing is in God’s control

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  • 4 October 2012 08:32, by NO PEACE

    Yes No talks if you are not remove Yau YU IN SOUTH SUDAN.

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