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September 29, 2012 (WASHINGTON) – The Sudanese government accused the international community of reneging on pledges of cancelling debt made following the signing of the 2005 Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA) between Sudan and South Sudan.

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Ali Ahmed Karti, Minister for Foreign Affairs of the Republic of the Sudan, addresses the general debate of the sixty-seventh session of the General Assembly. 29 September 2012 (UN photo)

"I want to take this opportunity to remind about the international community promises after signing the CPA to help in cancelling Sudan’s debt that were gone with the winds," said Sudan’s foreign minister Ali Karti in his remarks before the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) today.

The top Sudanese diplomat described that the debt is a "heavy burden" on the Sudanese economy.

This week the International Monetary Fund (IMF) released figures showing that Sudan’s debt will reach $45.7 billion in 2013 up from $39.5 billion in 2010.

The government in Khartoum is legally obligated to honor the entire debt despite the secession of the South in July 2011 following the results of a referendum held six months prior to that under the terms of the CPA which allowed southerners to decide whether to remain united with the north or create their own independent state.

On Thursday the two sides signed an agreement that would see Khartoum and Juba working jointly on seeking debt relief from international creditors. If these efforts are unsuccessful the ex-foes will sit down again to decide on how to split the debt.

Karti said that said that his government is "determined to work with our brothers in South Sudan...so that the brotherly people [in the two countries] enjoy the fruits of peace and to ensure the existence of two viable nations".

Sudan’s economy is reeling from the loss of oil revenues as a result of South Sudan’s independence which held three quarters of the united country’s oil reserves. This has led to drying up of foreign currency inflows which weakened the Sudanese pound and sent inflation levels through the roof.

Earlier this year the Sudanese finance minister disclosed that his country pays $600 million in debt repayments to Arab sovereign funds which he said is a tiny fraction of the overall external debts with interest.

Most of Sudan’s debt dates back to the days of late president Ja’afar Nimeiri. It grew from $9 billion in 1985 to approximately $41 billion in 2012. The majority of it is owed to the Arab Gulf States of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

In its annual review of the Sudanese economy held last week, the IMF Executive board urged Khartoum to "step up their dialogue with creditors and donors to garner support for debt relief".

Several countries such as United States, United Kingdom and Germany expressed readiness to offer debt relief but political conditions attached will likely slow down materialization of the pledges.

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  • 30 September 2012 07:47, by George Bol

    Eat yourself and pay yourself. You acquire these debts from Arab nations and business countries that want to eliminate the South Sudanese during the war.The weapons that were used against us are hunting the North. I don’t think we can pay as was siad by CDR Pagan Amum. You should be shutting up dear Jallaba.

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    • 30 September 2012 08:49, by panchol

      Ali Karti.
      It is too earily for you even to open that page while two Sudan have just come out from comprehensive talks which had taken three to four months.
      How can you pay debt of weapons with which you had been fighting? Two Sudans will not share debts but they will share National assets.

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      • 30 September 2012 13:18, by forza

        Panchol, how Sudan will not share debts??agreement already been signed..it’s not up to s.sudan

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  • 30 September 2012 08:48, by Rommel

    Salva Kiir and his Government are deserving of death a thousand times over; for failing to establish essential State institutions, for presiding over one of the most grotesque cases of State corruption and nepotism, for failing to extricate us economically from the North during the great window of opportunity that was the interim period — and for failing to build a capable military deterrence...

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    • 30 September 2012 09:01, by Rommel

      ..but if Salva Kiir and his wretched ’Government’ go so far as to accept a fraction, a quarter or even a dollar of this odious debt that was incurred and accrued by Khartoum’s profligate military spending as well as its spending on an ever increasing, ever encroaching brutal security apparatchik — and the patronage system that kept it afloat in a sea of OUR blood...

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      • 30 September 2012 09:18, by Rommel

        ..then it would be incumbent upon us to remove this "Government" - by violent means if necessary. If we’re forced into picking 1 of 2 choices: our innocent children or our corrupt mis-leaders, I choose our children — because a debt of such size requires decades of repayments. I would rather spend that money on schools, hospitals, infrastructure and exacting, rigorous military training

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        • 30 September 2012 09:31, by Rommel

          and advanced military platforms necessary for the reclamation of every inch of our lands! Our Sovereign Representatives were mandated with the task (s) of helping us achieve Sovereignty, Liberty, Justice, Prosperity and Dignity and Security in ALL of our lands! If they cannot do that or have no intention of doing that... then they should resign.

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          • 30 September 2012 10:52, by mohammed ali

            Rommel aka Dr. Luka Piong, why don’t you say this directly to your president.You were supposed to be close to him.Now you ranting has nothing to do with the debt which the subject of this article.Everyone knows that you are not happy with the last agreement, because of Abeyei.Deng " Ahmmed" Alour showed his frustration in Addis Abba.Now you are showing yours.If you want Salva to resign,say to him!

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            • 30 September 2012 11:00, by mohammed ali

              con:Dr. Luka you can’t declare war on Salva and try to move him by force.You have tried that while he was in China.This was settled because for whatever say about Salva he is a prudent man.Any attemp to violently remove him from office, as you have suggested will set the south on an extinguishable fire.You are talking about " our" children, your children are safe & secure in Australia ...con

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            • 30 September 2012 11:01, by mohammed ali

              con:Dr. Luka you can’t declare war on Salva and try to move him by force.You have tried that while he was in China.This was settled because for whatever say about Salva he is a prudent man.Any attemp to violently remove him from office, as you have suggested will set the south on an extinguishable fire.You are talking about " our" children, your children are safe & secure in Australia ...con

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              • 30 September 2012 11:12, by mohammed ali

                con: while the poor,marginalised of SS are starving, malnourished lacking basic health care & education.If you set that fire and it seems that you & the Abyei gang are trying to prepare the theater for that dangerous adventure,millions of SS will be slaughtered & die due to your threat for power.Actually, Abeyei is not your problem.Your problem is Peace! ...con

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                • 30 September 2012 11:27, by mohammed ali

                  con:Abeyei gang or Garang boy’s were having disprporationate influence over the SPLA to their tribal weight, because Garang was using them to adress the north due to their fluent Arabic language.Now, the situation is changing gradually, even non-Abeyei Garang boys are moving themselves away from you like Pagan,who is supporting Shulluk against Dinka Ngok in upper nile....con

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                  • 30 September 2012 11:35, by mohammed ali

                    con: Peace is your enemy as it is the threat & weapon that will dismantle your long hegomoney over the SPLA.Your best choice to remain on power is tension, violence and war.Feeling that is fading away you are waging your war against Salva.Your first coup trial was put down by Machar, Slava didn’t want to creat choas & division among Dinka, so he kept things quite.Any further attempt, ...con

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                    • 30 September 2012 11:54, by mohammed ali

                      con:to carry a millitary coup will be put of brutally by the Dinka themseves.The first coup trial played very well in the hands of Machar & boosted his ambtions for 2015 elections.Dinka don’t want this to happen again.You can’t hold Peace and Abyei as ransome for your ambtions. Land is not your concern it is power which is concerning you!

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              • 30 September 2012 11:34, by Rommel

                I find you extremely entertaining, Mohammed. You are persistent as you are ignorant. Do you really still believe that I could possibly be Luka Biong under a pseudonym, admittedly entertaining your intellectual & moral vacuities!? Your infatuation with this laughable idea is terribly unhealthy and is putting a real downer on our exchanges — it’s informing on every single one of your responses.

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                • 30 September 2012 11:59, by Rommel

                  You do realize that your entire response to me is predicated on the absolute fantasy that I could be someone that I’m not? You’re lucky I am not a woman, because the suggestion that I could be that old, that stuffy and look that depressed is just so not cool. Being 22, I have radiant, beautiful skin; not a face that seems permanently transfixed on sullenness.

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                  • 30 September 2012 12:16, by Rommel

                    I have inadvertently done it, haven’t I!? I’ve had you praise Salva for being "prudent"! The very same prudence that made him fail to build an alternative pipeline during the interim period; the same prudence that had him thinking that refineries are not at all needed and that a comprehensive air defense is of derisory importance in military engagements. You almost sound like a fan of the man.

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                    • 30 September 2012 12:42, by mohammed ali

                      Luka, see how arrogant you are! I have to say whatever is fair about anyone.Refineries, pipeline are not economically feasible.Air defency, your extravagant millitralis is very expensive, peace is very cheap & productive.After-all how much money you have left to ordinary pple to eat only, you have looooooooooooted it all.

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                      • 30 September 2012 13:13, by Rommel

                        I’m arrogant for not wanting to be subjected to aerial bombardment!? You’re hilarious. South Sudan was receiving more than $3 billion a year over a period of six [6] years during the interim period, which incidentally is the estimated cost [$ 3 billion] for the alternative *pipeline*. An air defense would cost South Sudan $500 million — an investment that would have equaled $100 million

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                        • 30 September 2012 13:27, by Rommel

                          every year for five [5] years. That pales in comparison to the amount of money siphoned by members of Salva’s "Government". They stole more than $2 billion in one year alone... so don’t get sententious with me on this matter. The cost of the alternative pipeline is $3 billion + $500 million for the air defense — the total cost? $3. 5 billion out of $12 billion.

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                          • 30 September 2012 13:42, by mohammed ali

                            Luka, you are part of Salva government. You excluded yourself because you were angry with Salva and went to London. Your family still in Australia.How could you say the cost of the pipe-line $ 3 billions since no feasibilty study is not being done yet! Typical arrogancy, of somebody who knows everything from air-defence to pipe-line, Jack of all hammers!

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                            • 30 September 2012 14:49, by Rommel

                              I didn’t calculate the cost of the alternative pipeline myself - experts in the field did; these experts are the ones that have estimated that the alternative pipeline would cost $3-4 billion. The figure that I provided on the cost of the S-300PMU2 air defense is based on what the Chinese themselves payed for this very platform.

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                              • 30 September 2012 15:12, by Rommel

                                I think what you wanted to call me, what you meant to say was, a *jack of all trades*. Is that what you meant? Are you now going to excoriate me for correcting you, yet again? For being apparently arrogant, for having the gall to inform you on when you’re wrong?

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                                • 30 September 2012 15:30, by Rommel

                                  You have this terrible habit of characterizing and labeling any ’Southerner’ that you disagree with as being a member of this terribly corrupt "Government" - without a morsel of evidence... even when they consistently condemn their mis-leaders for this very practice.

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                                  • 30 September 2012 15:58, by mohammed ali

                                    Luka, terrible habit of "characterizing & labelling"! Is it a bad habit? Are you sure?? Are you talking about me or yourself? ignorant, foolish, corrected you...do I say something like this, or is it something you always do? Means your habit! I have never said to anyone that he is a member of SS govenment; but, You, Dr.Luka Biong Deng Majok is a senior member of the gov. of SS!

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                                    • 30 September 2012 16:30, by Rommel

                                      I am not the one with a propensity to projectionism - that would be you. It seems as though you would very much enjoy the untrammeled license to spread disinformation, veritable fiction and outright lies. If you want to present falsehoods as facts, if you want to misquote institutions of international significance, or just muddle historical facts...

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                                      • 30 September 2012 16:41, by Rommel

                                        ..expect to be called out as a liar and admonished accordingly. You are not going to be allowed to sully the truth, tell lies or distort the historical narrative. I have only met one [1] Northern Sudanese to date, and so I don’t know how you people address a situation in which someone is clearly lying, but in the West, they’re called out for it.

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                                        • 30 September 2012 17:06, by Rommel

                                          If you’re being foolish, you’re going to be called foolish; if you’re being ignorant, you’re going to be called ignorant - it’s as simple as that. I know that certain cultures [my parents culture included] are not as direct or as incisive as Western culture (s) are — and perhaps this is the reason why you seem averse to legitimate criticism.

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                                          • 30 September 2012 18:33, by mohammed ali

                                            Luka, carry one labelling! It is not my habit, Idon’t know how to do it!Don’t tell me about Western culture. They can hardly insult anybody for a difference of opinion.To call somebody foolish, stupid...bla is judgment, they don’t do it.Rude individuals do it. Luka, don’t try to mislead us you lived most of your life in north Sudan, besides, don’t get so angry, that wont make you right!

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                                            • 30 September 2012 18:55, by Rommel

                                              Stop trying to put words into my mouth. Can you please produce the citation in which I have ever called you "stupid"! or even "foolish"? If you fail to produce the citation, you will prove the weight of the word that I have used to describe you, a word I will continue to describe you — a liar.

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                                              • 30 September 2012 19:03, by Rommel

                                                I am not at all angry, Mohammed. I am the very definition of equanimity. Don’t try to present your laughable attempts at deception as merely subjective opinions when you so desperately tried to present them as objective facts. If you accuse somebody of something or of being someone... you then have to provide the required evidence.

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                                                • 30 September 2012 19:11, by Rommel

                                                  I don’t know how you people do it in the Arab world, but the process of validation is almost regarded as sacrosanct in the West. In each and every case in which you and I are of divergent views... I provide material evidence when it is asked of me, but you continue to flout this requirement in every instance.

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                                                  • 30 September 2012 19:22, by Rommel

                                                    You have convinced yourself of the obscenely preposterous idea that a senior Government official would carve out such a significant part of his/her day to entertain the hypocritical blather of people such as yourself. My English is infinitely better structured, with far more of an expansive vocabulary, is far more sophisticated and I deliver it better than Luka Biong has ever done.

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                                              • 30 September 2012 21:57, by mohammed ali

                                                Luka,"..If you’re being foolish, you’re going to be called foolish; if you’re being ignorant, you’re going to be called ignorant - it’s as simple as that" This just 2 posting above! Who is the lier now? Leave the answer for you! Good ,I have to go to bed!

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                                                • 1 October 2012 03:22, by Rommel

                                                  Your understanding of the English language is woefully lacking; "if" is the operative word in that specific post of mine; "if" is an evocation of a possible scenario. I’ll provide you with an example: "IF" you’re a communist than you’re a necessarily a collectivist. That is worlds apart from actually being accused of being a communist. Do you understand!?

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                                • 30 September 2012 15:48, by mohammed ali

                                  Luka, ok,you corrected me!So,what? I did a mistake so what?Be not a Jack of all trades, but a master of one!Big deal; go and celebrate that you corrected me.There is something wrong with,polietly,telling you "you need help"Expert on the field to give an estimate for $ 3-4 billions,without a feasibility study!You call them experts!This is not a house,no "expert" will commit himself to a any figure!

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                                  • 30 September 2012 17:21, by Rommel

                                    I don’t know what parallel universe you live in, but industry analysts routinely make such estimations. The estimated cost -$3-4 billion- for the alternative pipeline is line with the cost of similar projects such as the Chad-Cameroon pipeline which was completed at a cost of $3.7 billion — and the Baku-Tblisi-Ceyhan pipeline which was completed at a cost of $3.9 billion.

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                            • 30 September 2012 16:15, by zulu

                              if he were luka what are you excited or anxitiouse about? i still mantain that because of your naivity for failing to realize that ss now have the niche to circumvent what ever proposals or agreements made in principle by forcing its g
                              to do exactly what has to be done.
                              Rommel is a young guy who does not even know who to read or write in arabic like your cousin luka.

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                              • 30 September 2012 19:23, by mohammed ali

                                Zulu, to circumvent the agreements? Is it a government you are talking about or a gang of bandits? You better try to get rid of the bush mentality!

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                      • 30 September 2012 16:25, by zulu

                        Mohamed, your juvenile persona seems to be at play whilst we try to challenge your chauvenism in the region. we are not going to go for peace without the expansive pipe line or military hardware. it will not happen. we are not that naive. we will square off and reclaim all border areas. Kiir has 3 more yrs and you’l find a new president elected and not deposed.

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                        • 30 September 2012 17:41, by Rommel

                          zulu:
                          Mohammed is not at all interested in the facts — fiction is more to his liking. I was born in Ethiopia. I don’t speak Arabic, I have NEVER been to Abyei, Juba or Khartoum; my deep sense of attachment to South Sudan was nurtured by my father - a former SPLA soldier.

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                          • 30 September 2012 19:09, by mohammed ali

                            Luka,well you are trying to deny your true identity.You are obvious rallying pple against the government of SS. That make you nervious.If you are not,then there is no problem.But if you are, then your pple in the government will see whether your talk here corrospond to what you are doing on the ground in SS!You are calling for regime change by force & you have never been to SS!Sorry,hard 2 believe

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                            • 30 September 2012 19:35, by Rommel

                              I am not calling for regime just yet. When I said that this "Government" could be removed by force if necessary, it’s contingent on them throwing caution to the wind and accepting on behalf of my people any part of your debt. I am from a village called Wangulei in Jonglei State — a distant relative of the late Dr. John Garang de Mabior on his mother’s side.

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                              • 30 September 2012 20:17, by Rommel

                                I think I will end my conversation with you now. Tending to your stubborn, laughable ideas is a tad tedious; it is akin to presenting evidence of evolution to a creationist; the creationist doesn’t respect the criteria of evidence, and so the whole enterprise would be a complete and utter waste.

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                              • 30 September 2012 22:09, by mohammed ali

                                LUKA :"it would be incumbent upon us to remove this "Government" - by violent means if necessary" These are your words; yet you call me lier! You said " incumbent upon us" which means obligatory, urgent , necessary, binding, compelling.That is totaly different from " could be removed" With this you have proved to me beyound any doubt that: you are Dr.Luka Biong Deng Majok. Why?

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                                • 30 September 2012 22:16, by mohammed ali

                                  Luka: Because 22 years who had never saw S or SS in his life, would never get so worrid to reveal an identity from. He would’t care! But, Luka Biong understands the graviness of his words which he is trying now withdraw them. Too late!

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                                  • 1 October 2012 03:51, by Rommel

                                    Comprehension isn’t your strong suit, is it? Do you even bother to read any of the posts that you quote back to me? There’s a difference between calling for outright regime, change right now - and saying that the regime would have to be removed if it adopts a certain policy sometime in the future.

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                                    • 1 October 2012 03:57, by Rommel

                                      I am not retracting anything; it would be incumbent upon patriots to remove Salva IF he burdens us with any part of your debt. Salva is many things - but he doesn’t seem suicicdal. I don’t think that he [or anyone else in government] has any intention of ever doing such a thing.

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                • 30 September 2012 12:01, by mohammed ali

                  Rommel , most of the readers here know that you are Dr.Luka Biong. First your arrogancy and false pride , second the way you try dicredit and judge others third your language which you uses on other articles.Language is just like finger prints.You can put me down by your abusive language and you can’t drag me that low.Such language is the language of the weak!Enjoy my entertainment & amusement!

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                  • 30 September 2012 15:57, by Rommel

                    Ah, so "most" readers are aware of my secret identity!? Darn it, I really thought that I was doing a good job hiding it. I am being impish of course. You claim that I am using abusive language. How? When? And what exactly constitutes abusive language!? I don’t use profanity or racial expletives. I call you ignorant and a liar -which you are- and you call me arrogant and a warmonger

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                    • 30 September 2012 16:11, by Rommel

                      for essentially wanting to put an end to your campaign of aerial bombardment and your occupation of our lands. I am from Jonglei, but this won’t stop you from addressing me as Luka Biong. You are in essence condemning me for being someone that I am not.

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                      • 30 September 2012 23:24, by sudani ana

                        I don’t think the so called Rommel and Luka Biong are the same person. I think Rommel speaks English as his first language, am certain he was educated in the west, in the UK. I know this because despite his eloquence and articulation, when he makes mistakes he makes ones that are often made by English people when they write. I can corroborate this if you want.

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                        • 1 October 2012 04:29, by Rommel

                          sudani ana
                          Thank you for interceding on my behalf, but Mohammed seems to have made his mind up on this issue. I don’t want to come off sounding conceited, but when he debates me -as me- he really has very little chance... and so I think he’s resorted to the absurd idea that he’s communicating with a senior government official as a means of leveling the playing field.

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                          • 1 October 2012 04:42, by Rommel

                            It doesn’t take me very long to respond and so I am prone to making mistakes, especially if I’m in a rush; I might put a comma in the wrong place or use more than one *a* or *the* when I’m thinking of writing something else. When I do scroll back up and see the many ghastly grammatical mistakes... it drives me bloody mad.

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        • 30 September 2012 13:29, by forza

          Romel,then get ready to turn down the corrupted government and redeem the 4billion that could cover up some of your debts.

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    • 30 September 2012 09:09, by panchol

      Rommel.
      If made you to the President of Republic of South Sudan which bordered by Sudan, you yourself will not manage to make agood country, why i said because of the following.
      1.Hatred cultivated in Junubin.
      2.Support of Malitias by Khartoum Regime before Referendum until SS gain Independence.3.Economic war applied by Khartoum Regime.
      NB:President Kiir is humble and a peace loving son of A

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  • 30 September 2012 10:28, by Nubian King

    Dear Mr. Karti,
    As your country mate, I don’t like the way your government officials go overseas to make these kinds of pledges. This tradition must cease. We have hands which if used in the right manner can relieve us of these squandered funds. Why lend if you can’t refund??????
    Using public funds in the right manner will ease the situation instead of saying one word several times.

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  • 30 September 2012 10:28, by Northern Sudanese

    aaaaah if the debt isn’t reliefed then halve of it will go to the new southern state of south sudan. that is agreed in the agreement, otherwise the agreement is failed , no oil will pass through our land and no southerners will be aloud to enter it

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    • 30 September 2012 14:39, by South South

      Northern Sudanese,
      You gay Muslim do not know what you are talking about. Your poor country is begging west for help because most of Sudanese young men are now for sell to Libya. People who have no value in Sudan. Why do you ask west to help your poor country ? Why don’t you go to Gulf countries ? You know they will not help Fake Black Arabs with their money. Gay people.

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    • 30 September 2012 18:35, by mogokafi

      Northern Sudanese, we have been living in delusional and paranoid polices of elite in Khartoum for a 1/2 century and now we have understood that. NCP itself has been running it for a 1/4 century, but hasn’t done anything to the state of S. Kordofan. The state where it gets all the resources from and gives nothing to local population. Sudan will not go back to what it use to be, the old Suda.

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  • 30 September 2012 13:11, by forza

    Yes,if debts are not cleared both sides need to sit immediately and discuss about to split them.sudan and s.sudan need to work in parallel to convince creditors to cancel the debts otherwise we go with option two,,split

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  • 30 September 2012 18:52, by Samuel Malual

    When things fall apart in khartoum, they are quick to change their position and the important of diplomacy. Khartoum must surrendered Bashir to the ICC so that they can beable to talk about debts forgiveness. So all heads of states have participate in the UN assembly,but criminal Bashir is only limping between Addis Abba and khartoum. This is the only world bashir knows

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  • 30 September 2012 22:22, by ViVa Sudan

    Nubian King & OTHER INSECTS DIS IS INTERNATIONAL POLICY & IT BEEN adopted by many countries & by da way if they refused to clear the debts u will have to pay 1/2 that is ur share wehter u like or not coz westren countries they know u are having oil & not poor as u claim.. idiots

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