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Bashir and Kiir fail to reach comprehensive deal over post-S. Sudan independence issues

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September 26, 2012 (KHARTOUM/JUBA) – Sudan President Omer Al-Bashir and his South Sudanese counterpart Salva Kiir Mayardit managed, after another round of marathon talks on Wednesday, to strike a deal on border security issues but failed to do likewise on contested border regions including Abyei.

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Bashir and Salva Kiir stand in Juba during the second CPA anniversary celebration (Reuters/file)

The partial deal was confirmed by both countries following the sixth closed-door meeting between the two leaders in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa, which has been hosting the summit for the past five days under the mediation of the African Union High-Level Implementation Panel (AUHIP).

Sources on both sides told Sudan Tribune that the issue of establishing a demilitarized zone along the unmarked 1,800-km common borders has been resolved after the two countries agreed to redeploy their troops out of the 10 kilometers-buffer zone which includes the “Mile 14” area, a disputed territory occupying 23 kilometers between Western Bahr El-Ghazal State in South Sudan and East Darfur State in Sudan.

Under the deal, the South Sudan army (SPLA) should withdraw from six areas it controls along the borders, including “Mile 14”. Sudan’s army will also withdraw from “Mile 14” which, also under the deal, will revert back to being run through a traditional and joint administration system between Al-Riziygat Arab tribe of Darfur and Dinka Mulawl of South Sudan until such time that the area’s final status is determined.

The establishment of a buffer zone will enable the two countries to implement a deal they reached in August, but not yet signed, to resume exporting South Sudan oil via Sudan which will help their contracting economies after an eight-month hiatus that saw the two neighbours fight a brief war in April around border oilfields.

It also means great logistical difficulty for both of them to engage in supporting each others’ rebel groups across the border.

Sources told Sudan Tribune that the last hours of the meeting between Al-Bashir and Kiir on Wednesday had witnessed exchanges of tough language between the two leaders in the presence of AUHIP mediators including its chief and former South African President Thabo Mbeki.

According to sources, Al-Bashir reacted angrily to Salva Kiir when the latter insisted that the SPLA would only withdraw 10 kilometers outside of “Mile 14”, telling him “we ceded the whole south for you and you’re refusing to withdraw from [few] kilometers”.

Sudanese government sources also told Sudan Tribune that President Al-Bashir is expected to travel back to Khartoum as soon as the summit concludes today.

The deal, due to be signed today, includes eight protocols on border security arrangements, oil, economic and trade issues, and the four freedoms agreement which will allow citizens of each country the freedoms of movement, property ownership, work and residence in the other country.

The implementation of those protocols should come into effect after being endorsed by the parliaments of both countries.

South Sudan Information Minister and official spokesperson, Barnaba Marial, said on Wednesday that "significant steps" had been made at the talks and agreements were reached on most of the outstanding issues.

The official confirmed that the “four-freedom” issue had already been settled. He added that only “small details” on the oil deal are left for further talks.

The two countries also agreed to implement the demarcation of their agreed borders which, according to sources from both sides, represent 80 percent of the border strip. The remaining 20 percent represents five disputed territories which are: Hofrat Al-Nuhas, Mile 14, Kaka Al-Tigaria, Al-Muqaines, and Goda.

The final status of these disputed regions will be determined either through political agreements or international arbitration.

NO AGREEMENT ON ABYEI

On the issue of Abyei, the key disputed region, no agreement was reached after Sudan strongly rejected the AUHIP proposal on holding a referendum by October 2013 to determine the final status of the area.

Whereas Juba accepted the proposal, which was handed to the two parties on 21 September, Khartoum said in a letter sent to the AUHIP that it “categorically rejects the proposal in its entirety”.

Sudan based its objection to the AUHIP proposal on the fact that it only allows “permanent” residents to vote in the referendum, potentially rescheduled for October 2013.

Khartoum argued that such criterion fits the Dinka Ngok tribe of South Sudan and excludes the Sudanese nomads of al Messriyah who reside in Abyei for few months a year to graze their cattle.

Al-Bashir and Kiir, however, agreed to continue the implementation of the agreement they signed in June 2011 on Abyei, which stipulates the establishment of joint administrative and legislative bodies to run the region. They also agreed to keep the UN-mandated force of 4,200 Ethiopian peacekeepers who are deployed in Abyei as part of the same deal.

A South Sudanese official, speaking to Sudan Tribune on the condition of anonymity, confirmed on Wednesday that the two leaders failed to reach an agreement over Abyei and other disputed regions.

The official revealed that the dispute over Abyei would therefore be referred to the AU Peace and Security Council and later to the UN Security Council (UNSC).

KIIR TALKS OF PAINFUL CONCESSIONS

Meanwhile, President Kiir has expressed rejection to what he described as pressure on his country to make concessions more than the “painful” ones it already made.

“We have made painful decisions to concede over some of the demands with hope to achieve lasting peace and promote mutual cooperation and viability of the states but yet we are still feeling a pressure to make additional concession. This is not feasible. Our people are no longer accepting any suggestion”, a highly placed source speaking to Sudan Tribune quoted Kiir as saying on Wednesday.

According to the source, Kiir made the remark during a consultative discussion with mediators on the sideline of the summit in Addis Ababa.

President Kiir, whose remarks appear to be directed at Sudan’s refusal of the AUHIP proposal on Abyei, called for the immediate implementation of the proposal and on the international community to prepare for the necessary support.

“The proposal has certainly addressed key issues even if it has not resolved all the concerns”, Kiir said. The source said that the South Sudanese leader had rejected a proposal from Khartoum during the summit to either include al-Messriyah in the vote or divide the area so that the northern part of Abyei would administered by Sudan as the southern side would be administered by South Sudan.

“There is no reason to divide the area which has already been defined by the Permanent Court of Arbitration. All these claims have been addressed by the court and we all accepted the ruling as final and binding decision. We just need the referendum to be conducted for Dinka Ngok and other residents” the source quoted Kiir as telling the mediators.

Abyei is one of the issues that the UNSC ordered the two countries through resolution 2045 to resolve by the extended deadline of 22 September.

Sources told Sudan Tribune that AUHIP chief Thabo Mbeki informed Sudan and South Sudan that he intends to address the UNSC and ask for another extension of the deadline to settle the outstanding issues.

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  • 27 September 2012 09:29, by Jalaby

    Let us celeberate this happy occasion and listesn to this "Marisa" unbelievable song!
    Guys, let us celeberate the partial deal because we all look for peace, Al-Bashir didn’t do Ali Osman mistake in Nivasha,it’s good that he learned the lesson despite it’s so late but coming late better than not coming at all! Salva Kiir said "we provided painful

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    • 27 September 2012 09:31, by Jalaby

      concession to Sudan"
      Abyei referendum without Miseryia will never take place, separating Abyei from the current deal and making it as an independent issue that makes Dinka Ngok feel SPLM has betrayed them because that will be weaken their side and strengthen Khartoum side in the coming Abyei negotiation,

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      • 27 September 2012 09:33, by Jalaby

        sorry Dinka Ngok, whether you like it or hate it, Abyei soution lies only under Mr. Scott Gration proposal:
        1) allow Misserya to vote in the referendum or
        2) Abyei should be divided between Misserya & Dinka Ngok where the north part goes to Misserya & south part goes to Dinka Ngok!

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        • 27 September 2012 09:35, by Jalaby

          Guys, who told you to choose to be north when british administration choices you between being north or south?
          well, our Egyptians brothers have a wisdom says "Entering the bathroom not like coming out from it"
          I think that completely applies on you guys LOL LOL

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          • 27 September 2012 09:37, by Jalaby

            Back to our "Marisa" song by singer Mr. Emmanuel kembe, this is unbelievable song, it shows how our African music style is so so beautiful and wonderful, Mr. Emmanuel was born in Wau city and completed his high school education in the north, he fled Sudan to Ethiopia and then to US, Mr. Emmanuel is influenced by Reggae music style, Bob Marley songs style!

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            • 27 September 2012 09:42, by Jalaby

              Here is the link for Marisa song in Arabic (it says:"mother, we want white Marisa big barrel - Yoma daireen Marisa Abiad - Barmel Kabeer") LOL LOL, he also mentioned "Tagalia" food & "Molah Umm Rogiaga" in this unbelievable song & music, here we go:
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TzTKTblg_8U#!

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              • 27 September 2012 09:46, by 4Justice

                Jalaby, you seem to be enjoying yourself under Salva kiir leadership.

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              • 27 September 2012 09:48, by Jalaby

                When I get some free time I’ll come back to Mr. Emmanuel kembe and tell you about his song that made Khartoum very angry and put him in jail behind bars, and also about his song "Khartom Ayan (sick)".
                I really don’t have much free time guys, my employer will fire me, I’m not in the welfare like many of you guys LOL LOL

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                • 27 September 2012 09:51, by Jalaby

                  To Sudantribune,
                  I would like you to increase my words limit in writing because it’s so difficult to post too many comments for the same issue!
                  Many Thanks & regards!

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                • 27 September 2012 09:53, by 4Justice

                  Jalaby, do you work in a factory, i have a computer on my office desk, i can post messages any time i want.

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                • 27 September 2012 09:54, by Observer

                  Jalaby what a hypocrite you are.
                  It wasn;t so long ago that you, along with the other extremists on here ( M.Ali. N Sudanese) categorically stated that there would be no Four Freedom signed, no Mile 14 zone.
                  As for your employer- what a joke that is..

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                  • 27 September 2012 10:13, by Jalaby

                    Observer,
                    Don’t be close minded and short sighted man!
                    first:the 4 freedoms agreement is part of $3bn that the south agreed to pay.
                    Second:4 freedoms never mean giving jonobean sudan citizenship as many of them thought!
                    Finally:We need them because they’re cheap labors otherwise the prices will go higher than what already very high in Sudan!

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                    • 27 September 2012 13:50, by Observer

                      Jalaby,
                      You think you know everything but you know little.
                      The Four Freedoms was instigated to long before the $3bn that the South has agreed to. It has nothing to do with that.
                      And no one has ever said that it means citizenship- but if gives both citizens residency, property ownership and the freedom to trade.
                      And your arrogance about cheap labour sums you up... arrogant, bigoted and anal..

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                  • 27 September 2012 10:49, by mohammed ali

                    Observer,I am still saying no 4 freedoms at this stage.Only after the wened off then we can have 100 freedoms.With these thieves runing SS, there is no use.They will not honour any agreement. For you, we will give special consideration, because you love so much!

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                    • 27 September 2012 19:37, by zulu

                      Mohamed,
                      Do not be excited because the deal is only on oil but everything else has the devil in it. guerillas will continue from sudan and from south sudan. border issues will not ebb and so will hostilities and mistrust that are so deeply rooted.

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                    • 28 September 2012 00:05, by Observer

                      M.Ali,
                      There are thieves running both countries- just that S Sudan havent had as much practice as our leaders and are not as sophisticated in hiding it.
                      Our Govt has a record of not honoring any agreements so don;t sit there all smug.
                      Dont understand your last comment about me but guess you do

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                • 27 September 2012 11:10, by Martin Muong

                  @Jalaby,He says, Khartoum Ayaan, Ayaan maha rup. Don’t mess with junubiin otherwise they will send you to hell in less than no minute. You bombed us with weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and you haven’t annihilated us. what will happen if we are going to bomb you like that?. Our feudal and sectarianism will be settle by our fighter jets.

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        • 27 September 2012 09:54, by Chol A.

          Jalaby,even if your Muhamed come and said that Missarya should vote in Abyei we strongly still rejecting your backing fake to dinke Angok. we can continue fight to the last about this issue and it will one day fall to the South.

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      • 27 September 2012 10:13, by Hardball

        Jalaby, Missariyas don’t have land in Abyei, they just come to grace their cattle in Abyei in the season and that’s it. Get your facts right or read the article carefully. The referendum is already proposed by African Union, UN and USA; it’s coming up in 2013 for people of Abyei to vote for their ancestral land where they belong.

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        • 27 September 2012 10:25, by Hardball

          Jalaby, what are you celebrating? Do you really believe South Sudanese are going to allow you to own properties and live in South Sudan? You’re out of your mine; please separate fiction from none-fiction. Just because you repeat four-freedoms over and over is not going to make it possible for South Sudanese to make it happened!

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          • 27 September 2012 10:29, by Jalaby

            Hardball,
            Read the arabic version for the same topic in Sudantribune, it contains more details than this english one, I’m not sure why Sudantribune eliminated the part that talks about Deng Alor when he became so angry because of Abyei, read it here:
            http://www.sudantribune.net/%D8%A7%D8%AA%D9%81%D8%A7%D9%82-%D8%AC%D8%B2%D8%A6%D9%89-%D8%A8%D9%8A%D9%86,3659

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            • 27 September 2012 15:54, by panchol

              Jalaby.
              Khartoum is so sick with unknown disease.The separation of South Sudan makes NCP restless.
              loss of 75% had been felt by Arab Jahalin in what they called Sudan.The following are in the hearts of all South Sudanese citizens.
              1.We don’t want our crude oil to be stolen again.
              2.our trade with Uganda,Congo & Kenya is fine.
              Salva Kiir Oyee!Junubin Oyee!SPLM/A Oyee!

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          • 27 September 2012 11:30, by mohammed ali

            Hardball, we know that you are not going to allow us in SS, and we don’t want to!This agreement is simply to quiten your thieves in the negotiation because they have being fighting for it for quit long.On the other hand we have more than half a million Southerners living in Sudan , we can’t just leave them to go to SS to die of hunger or insecurity.They are living with us for ages in peace & love.

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            • 27 September 2012 16:02, by Wetkout Malual But

              You Both Gays Mohamed and Jalaby
              It seems that you are over enthusiastic about the failure of negotiation, but who cares? We don’t even care since our SPLA gallants forces kick out your paramilitary militias in those following disputes areas,mile 14 area is deeply inside North Bahr El Ghazal state so don’t wast no time to talk about Abyei, it’s already fell into our hands

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      • 27 September 2012 13:18, by NO PEACE

        WHAT A FUCKEN AGEEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES, FOR ME NO PEACE B/N TWO PRESIDENTS

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    • 27 September 2012 10:36, by Martin Muong

      Jalaby you are nothing more than idiot. You are building the castle in the air. Do you think the occupation of Abyei by your troops has meaning. It is baseless, tell your racial and Mohammedanism false religion regime to cut it losses, otherwise we will bring them to our knees.when we run of out of patience. You know us well the time we kicked you out of so called Heglig. Don’t call Iran next time

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  • 27 September 2012 09:32, by manyang mawech

    Here we go!Just prepare for war.... next step.

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  • 27 September 2012 09:38, by 4Justice

    If Sudan disagrees there is always room for an extension until Sudan gets what it wants. If South Sudan had rejected the proposals like Khartoum has, the international community would have been outraged. Banki Moon and Obama would release strong condemnation statements against South Sudan.

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    • 27 September 2012 09:47, by Peter Marko

      Brother: 4 Justice
      Which side do you expect the Mubarek Hussien Osama will be on? Of course, he will alaways aligns himself with Islamists, since he is one of their own. Shame on you son of Hussien. You have disgraced the America Leadership.

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    • 27 September 2012 09:48, by Peter Marko

      Brother: 4 Justice
      Which side do you expect the Mubarek Hussien Osama will be on? Of course, he will alaways aligns himself with Islamists, since he is one of their own. Shame on you son of Hussien. You have disgraced the America Leadership.

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  • 27 September 2012 10:00, by Chuangah

    No more concession, the disputed areas are South Khordofan, and South Blue Nile, not all the five areas who are deep inside South Sudan territory. I think we have given up Panthou why does it not appeared on the table? Better to leave without international community support, they are all against South Sudanese people.

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    • 27 September 2012 10:59, by mohammed ali

      Chuangha, if am not mistaken, you are refering to Higlig.Well from the very bigining it is very well known that Heglig is not part of SS.Abeyei gang had included it in Abeyei claim. The court ruled that it should be part of Sudan.It their mistake, they traded it with Abeyei.Unfortunate more than 2500 innocent, poor & marginalised Southerners perished for nothing.The thieves know the court rule..co

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      • 27 September 2012 11:07, by mohammed ali

        con:Why they are not claiming it , since they had sent thousands to die for it? They simply want to divert the attention of the pple away from their grand theft.Their families are fare & away, safe & sound, so what is the problem with sending few marginalised pple to die; they are dying any way, if not due to war , it will be due to hunger!Who cares?!

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        • 27 September 2012 11:40, by Chol

          Ali and Chuangah you guys are both Sudanese, I don’t know who you guys trying to entertained with your irrational performance. Just because you say it here; Abyei and Panthou are Sudanese territories doesn’t make it so. Are you guys inventing a new game now? A pig will never trick a cunning fox!

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        • 27 September 2012 16:11, by Rommel

          Mohammed Ali:
          I have on many occasions asked you to end your terrible, perennial habit of gratuitously misquoting institutions of international significance, but evidently to no avail. The Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) did not rule that "Heglig" (Aliiny) does not belong to South Sudan! It said nothing of the sort!

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          • 27 September 2012 16:14, by Rommel

            The PCA was afforded a very limited, and very specific mandate; it was tasked only with determining the extent of Abyei as it stood at the date of its transfer from Bahr el Ghazl to Kordofan in 1905 by the Condominium government. The PCA defined Abyei in a way that moved both the Heglig (and Bamboo) oil sites to the east of Abyei’s eastern boundary — that’s all it did.

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            • 27 September 2012 16:16, by Rommel

              It did not place Heglig in northern Sudan or South Sudan; it simply said that Heglig lies to the east of Abyei:
              “The eastern boundary of the area of the nine Ngok Dinka chiefdoms transferred to Kordofan in 1905 runs in a straight line along longitude 29° 00? 00” E, from latitude 10° 10? 00” N south to the Kordofan – Upper Nile boundary as it was defined on 1 January 1956.”

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              • 27 September 2012 16:29, by Rommel

                This ruling did nothing to settle where the “1 January 1956 border” actually lies. It had no mandate to make such a determination, and did not attempt to do so. If you wish to contend that the limited mandate of the PCA on Abyei did indeed demarcate the general North-South border...that would necessarily have you concede that the PCA ruled that Abyei belongs to South Sudan.

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                • 27 September 2012 16:31, by Rommel

                  You seem to be under the notion that areas left outside the Abyei belong to Khartoum... what then of the areas included in the Abyei area? Do they then belong to Juba!? The PCA determined the extent of the Abyei area, and only the Abyei area.

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                  • 27 September 2012 16:37, by Rommel

                    There is a wealth of documented evidence regarding the demographic character of Aliiny; sources on the matter include the then UN Special Rapporteur -Leonardo Franco- who in 1999 reported on the widespread displacement of Aliiny’s population:

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                    • 27 September 2012 16:40, by Rommel

                      Quote:
                      "As recently as May 1999, many villages on the eastern edge of Heglig were attacked and burned to the ground by the Sudanese army, causing the displacement of some 1,000-2,000 civilians."

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                      • 27 September 2012 16:42, by Rommel

                        This is what the coalition of international justice wrote in its 2006 report on Heglig and the surrounding area:
                        .."beginning half way through the dry season of 1991-2 and restarting in November 1992, (and continuing through the the whole of the dry season of 1992-3) government forces together with Arab murahaleen allies began an offensive of looting, burning and abduction,

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                        • 27 September 2012 16:55, by Rommel

                          resulting in the destruction of at least 57 hamlets in the Heglig area."
                          The irrefutable, insurmountable, persistent and documented truth is this: "Heglig" belongs to the Ruweng Dinka; this was true when the British found us at Keilak (Alel) [70km North of "Heglig"] in 1902; this was true when the former UN Special Rapporteur documented and reported the displacement of the Ruweng in 1999...

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                          • 27 September 2012 17:09, by Rommel

                            .. and this will still be true when the ignorant, immoral, corrupt, treasonous, death-deserving cretins in Juba are gone. I take refuge and consolation in the fact that *ALL* of them are unspeakably dumb as they are unbelievably corrupt... which will make it that much easier to remove these blind and dumb animals from the political arena. People like me will have their guts for garters.

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                            • 27 September 2012 17:24, by Rommel

                              We will reclaim every inch of our lands after we remove these wretched, reprehensible, ignominious sheep. That they did not honor their commitments to the people of South Sudan in general and the dispossessed Ruweng in particular, is not at all surprising; it will not define, determine and bridle the incumbent duty, mission and task of true patriots in reclaiming the lands of their forefathers!

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                              • 28 September 2012 20:12, by Ayman fadul

                                i am impatiently waiting for the response of Mr. Mohamed ali to you overwhelming statement Mr. Rommel!!
                                but it seems that he has nothing to say but to escape..

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  • 27 September 2012 10:01, by Mel mosa

    4 justice
    You are right. Obama want to demise South Sudan people with his criminal Bashier.

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  • 27 September 2012 10:34, by Jalaby

    To Mr. No Logic,
    I think Mr. No Logic is best person who can lecture us about "Marisa", yes, he is poor when it comes to politics but no one can compete with him about his Marisa Knowledge, many people specially young guys have no idea about "Marisa" let alone Konjo Moro, Asalia, Dakay, etc, also they don’t know what is "Moshok" that comes out of Marisa and

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    • 27 September 2012 10:40, by Jalaby

      what can be used for!
      So my friend, here are the points for the lecture:
      1. Marisa Introduction & History
      2. What Marisa consists of
      3. How it can be created
      4. Area in Sudan that uses Marisa as main food
      5. Conclusion
      6. Q&A
      Many thanks my friend, it will be very informative lecture no doubt!

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      • 27 September 2012 11:18, by Epone Emmanuel

        That is what your nought head can produce,if you don’t know where you came from and where you are heading, better get your head in Sub- sahara desert. stop making us sick of your a.......... we have a meaningful purpose on this land of our great ancestors, do you have any?

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      • 27 September 2012 14:20, by mohamed mahgoub

        I wonder why joking a bout this marisa what is so special about it the whole world use it in different forms we drink it in nuba m as part of our main food Islam forbides alcohol that is why u developed psychic disappointments about that is ur problem u can’t judge others according to ur religion & expect them to respect u

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        • 27 September 2012 16:23, by Ayman fadul

          Me. Mahjoob,
          merisa is not forbidden in Islam that’s according to the perception of the majority of Sudanese Muslims, in fact in some places in Sudan it’s believed that it’s forbidden to non-Muslim to drink marisa!!
          not to mention, that Hilo-mor was initially developed from merisa too
          am not arguing here i just felt like saying this

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          • 28 September 2012 00:02, by mohamed mahgoub

            Moslims have developed many ways to go a round Islamic teachings to live in the modern world first time heard marisa not forbiden,however,the only none moslims in now Sudan are in nuba m. marisa is snug deal there

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      • 28 September 2012 06:25, by Mapuor

        When I was in London way back in 1980s,one of my colleagues from Badyria(Hosh banaga)gorged himself of Vodka and vomit in a sink filling it,then one Kawaja asked do you Sudanese drink like this in Sudan?I answered him only in the North haaaaaa,go to Patihaab and see what is happening to MARISSA!

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  • 27 September 2012 11:10, by Epone Emmanuel

    I know who is behind all this. The Arabs are regretting why they did let South Sudan go and yet they are mindful of who the owner of Sudan is. Irresponsible, shameless and inhuman they are. They are clinging onto Abyei issue,is it true that they know what they are doing? Definitely no. So Arrrr, get to know your homeland and your destiny. Shame on you is what I can say for now.

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  • 27 September 2012 12:18, by Jalaby

    Heglig is not among the 5 disputed areas, hence SPLA died for nothing in Heglig (FATIS SAKET)!
    As agreed between Sudan & S South, the 5 disputed territories are: Hofrat Al-Nuhas, Mile 14, Kaka Al-Tigaria, Al-Muqaines, and Goda. Heglig is not among them, that means SPLA died FATIS in Heglig (they called it Pantalon or may be Serwal! who cares?)

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  • 27 September 2012 12:25, by Jalaby

    I really can’t find any meaningful reason that convinces me why Jonobean are dying and running hard after 4 Freedoms agreement and they chose to vote 98% for separation?!
    If you really believe north is abusing you, marginalizing you, treating you as 2nd class citizen, even slaving you, why you want to stay with them then afterwards??!!

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    • 27 September 2012 12:33, by Jalaby

      some one may come and says "Jonobean who were born in the north and grew up in the north don’t want to go and live in the south and consider Sudan is their country",well I can accept that argument if the majority of Jonobean who are living in the north voted overwhelmingly for unity but that’s not the case because 65% of Jonobean who live in north voted for separation too

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      • 27 September 2012 12:46, by Jalaby

        just tell me, how come you vote to separate from a country that you hate their people and not to be with them and then you ask the same country you hate to give you permanent residence or better if their citizenship?! what crazy logic is this?
        Look,Jonobean, please go to your country before we lose our temper and punch (BONIA) you right in your big belly!

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        • 27 September 2012 15:41, by Makavelli

          Cont… Kiir/Bahr al Arab (between Northern Bahr el Ghazal and South Darfur states); Kaka Town (in Upper Nile state); Megenis (between Upper Nile and White Nile states -Western bank); and Joda/Wanthou (between Upper Nile and White Nile states -Eastern bank).
          The claimed areas are: Panthou/Heglig area including Amoyak and Ban Kurundi (the area between Unity and Southern Kordofan states),

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          • 27 September 2012 15:43, by Makavelli

            Cont… 80km of border in Kaka area (between Upper Nile and Southern Kordofan states), Bowth/Babanis (area East of Renk County in Upper Nile state and extending to the Blue Nile and Sinnar states); and the Area North of River Kiir including Majak (Meiram) (area between Northern Bahre el Ghazal, Southern Darfur, and Southern Kordofan states).

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        • 27 September 2012 15:45, by Makavelli

          Jalaby, here is the list of all the disputed and claimed areas along the two countries’ border. You can believe whatever you want, but these are facts and whoever will proves their claims with sufficient evident/mighty will take these areas.
          The disputed areas are: Kafia Kingi/Hofrat el Nahas (between Western Bahr el Ghazal and Southern Darfur states)

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    • 27 September 2012 15:39, by Makavelli

      Jalaby, here is the list of all the disputed and claimed areas along the two countries’ border. You can believe whatever you want, but these are facts and whoever will proves their claims with sufficient evident/mighty will take these areas. The disputed areas are: Kafia Kingi/Hofrat el Nahas (between Western Bahr el Ghazal and Southern Darfur states),

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  • 27 September 2012 12:28, by pabaak

    According to sources, Al-Bashir reacted angrily to Salva Kiir when the latter insisted that the SPLA would only withdraw 10 kilometers outside of “Mile 14”, telling him “we ceded the whole south for you and you’re refusing to withdraw from [few] kilometers”. Then what was Mr. Kiir answer? Bashier try to bully the President, did he forget that this peace has preserved watershed from their eyes,

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    • 27 September 2012 12:35, by pabaak

      because if the war was continue they could have not in position of representing Sudan at moment because they could have been kick out since then and the New Sudan could have been achieved,, he and conies could haven’t stand in front of SPLA in South, East, and Darfur rebels in West, so let be happy because the CPA led him still breath, but eventually will not long in the power for so long

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  • 27 September 2012 13:25, by NO PEACE

    JALABY!
    All messages you send to this forum are not clear to us please, for me go back to school.

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  • 27 September 2012 13:36, by NO PEACE

    president Bashir he just buying time for this take b/n the two countries, there is no peace b/n two, no peace b/n two, no peace b/n two, no peace b/n two, no peace b/n two.

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  • 27 September 2012 13:38, by NO PEACE

    president Bashir he just buying time for this take b/n the two countries, there is no peace b/n two, no peace b/n two, no peace b/n two, no peace b/n two, no peace b/n two.

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  • 27 September 2012 13:50, by E. Defense Forces
    • 27 September 2012 14:48, by Luethee Ngong Anyoun

      To: Presidents , failure to agree is not asolution to the problems , you have to forgive each other what ever happend for the sake of human beings in Sudan and S Sudan so that the lives of the innocent chlidren in Abyei and parts of Sudan should be rescued.
      Wasting time ever Month becomes a disease to the entire citizen but led us accept the truth that this land belongs to D

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      • 27 September 2012 16:13, by Wetkout Malual But

        What are you talking Guy, Are you with us or with traitors who grab our land? Please take one side who don’t even care, I do appreciated the position of our President Salva Kiir, we won’t allow any inch of our land to be annex to North part even the dividing of Abyei is not longer there, we South Sudanese people are ready all types to united behind our might SPLA forces to defense ourselves

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  • 27 September 2012 16:50, by forza

    What a useless results, how bashir agree on 4freedoms while both countries are on war? now you can’t make a difference whether who will come back to north are normal citizens or SPLA soldiers. From the bottom of my heart I hope that Sudanese parliament will reject the 4freedom crab. Sudanese and Sudanese should be treated as foreigners when traveling to each other land. They r 2 different countrie

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  • 27 September 2012 18:06, by Kim Deng

    "Under the deal, the South Sudan army (SPLA) should withdraw from six areas it controls along the borders, including “Mile 14”.
    What do you expect if the country is lead by coward man, of course, defeat and humiliation at the same time.
    Shame on him (Mr. Slava)!!!!!

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  • 27 September 2012 23:00, by Tutbol

    Kim deng!?
    Where did you get your Kim from? Sorry for that, but your comments seem to be treacherious. Would you forward the text that says of the withdrawel from areas so you mentioned?

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  • 27 September 2012 23:44, by Kim Deng

    Tut Bol not Tutbol,
    Read between the lines from Breaking News in A/A between Omer and coward Slava.

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    • 28 September 2012 19:19, by Lual

      lual mayouciec
      faillure of talked is going to waste allot of time why omer refuse to not accept what they s sudan say .how we give him our s sudan part of land to sudan?

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