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September 24, 2012 (KHARTOUM) - Sudan and South Sudan’s presidents ended Sunday evening a first round of talks without announcing a deal as they are expected to meet again on Monday for further discussions mainly on disputed areas including Abyei and security arrangements.

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Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir (R) listens as his South Sudanese counterpart Salva Kiir speaks during a joint news conference, at Khartoum Airport October 9, 2011. (Reuters)

Presidents Omer Al-Bashir and Salva Kiir held Sunday a first meeting late during the evening after reports saying the discussions will start on Monday. They were in a close-door meeting for three hours, together with the top negotiators of the two sides, Pagan Amum and Idriss Abdel Gadir.

At the end of the meeting, the two leaders did not make any comment to the reporters waiting outside the meeting room in the hotel as they took the lift together to their rooms.

Earlier, Sudan’s defence minister Abdel Rahim Hussein announced that his government accepted to include Mile 14 in the buffer zone but put some conditions.

The spokesperson of the Sudanese negotiating team Badr El-Din Abdalla, pointed out that Khartoum wants first some security and administrative arrangements over Mile 14.

Sudan says Mile 14, which is a grazing land located between Northern Bahr El-Ghazal state in South Sudan and East Darfur in Sudan, is a Sudanese land and figure in the maps of Sudan since 1924 as part of Darfur region.

The meeting between Kiir and Bashir was initially convened to discuss the proposal the African Union mediation submitted to the two parties over Abyei.

The mediation, in the proposal, supports the idea that only the few permanent residents of the Misseriya nomads can only participate in the referendum. This proposition opens again the door for the long past quarrels on how to determine a permanent resident. Khartoum demands six months and Juba speaks about three years.

South Sudanese cabinet affairs minister Deng Alor told reporters that a deal might be reached on Monday but did not give further details

But Badr El-Din stressed that the two parties continue to disagree on the security issues but confirmed that there is an agreement over other issues.

In Khartoum, Sudanese vice-president and head of political sector at the National Congress Party, Haj Adam Youssef, reiterated that Juba has to demobilise and disarm its soldiers - SPLM-North fighters - in Blue Nile and South Kordofan, and to cease any support to the Sudanese rebel group.

He further renewed the position of the ruling party rejecting any South Sudanese claim on the ownership of the contested area of Mile 14, calling on Juba to show flexibility and determination to agree on the remaining issues and to achieve peace and stability in the relations between the two countries.

He pointed out that Khartoum is committed to fully implement the remaining issues in the 2005 peace deal related to the Two Areas and the referendum on Abyei. He also underlined the need to establish the interim administration in the contested area as agreed in June 2011.

The mediation in its proposal over Abyei Area said a referendum should be held in October 2013, but before asked that an administration is established that Juba refused in the past because the NCP refused to appoint a Ngok Dinka as speaker of the regional legislative assembly.

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  • 24 September 2012 09:42, by Mi diit

    Border war between Sudan and South Sudan is coming soon and some leaders will not be alive by then when the dust is settled. Mark my words... It is just counting very close. When they say peace, peace, then comes sudden destruction.

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    • 24 September 2012 09:48, by Mi diit

      About Abyei, Ngundeng said there is a community the Jalaba will turn away with. This is more likely the Dinka Ngok of AByei who sold their land to Khartoum by the hand of their chief. Also the behavior of Ngok Dinka in SPLA such as Luka Biong, Pieng Deng and Arop doesn’t not impress the South to fight for their land.

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      • 24 September 2012 19:36, by Rommel

        Mi diit:
        Stop your tribal induced and motivated campaign of distorting history! Abyei was not sold to Khartoum or to anyone else for that matter. There was no commercial dimension to what transpired in 1905 and to the tense and tenuous position that Abyei currently occupies in the political arenas of both Nations.

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        • 24 September 2012 19:40, by Rommel

          Contrary to popular belief, Deng Majok had no hand in the transfer of Abyei from Bahr el Ghazal to Kordofan in 1905. Abyei was *transferred* to Kordofan by the Condominium government - and not by any of the leaders of Abyei when Arop Biong (the father of Deng Majok) was Paramount chief.

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          • 24 September 2012 19:44, by Rommel

            Deng Majok only succeeded his father in 1943. Prior to the exit of the British from Sudan, Deng Majok was afforded the choice to either rejoin Bahr el Ghazal or remain in Kordofan... .. and needless to say he disastrously chose Kordofan over Bahr el Ghazal in 1951.

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    • 24 September 2012 10:27, by Chol

      If Sudan claimed to have any land within South Sudan; why is the talk has to have a deal? You don’t say you need a deal when you know it it’s your land. A deal to be given what? When it comes to security of Sudan; South Sudan has nothing to do with it. It has to do with the Fur SK and Blue-Nile antagonists.

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      • 24 September 2012 18:55, by panchol

        Security for who? CPA says there is what is called popular consultation, who said CPA had expired? Ask your president president to apologise to the world about that.
        who thought of disarment. to ne carried out in sb and s.k?

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    • 24 September 2012 10:49, by Dinkawarrior

      CPA didn’t mentioned the so called Messeriya to be included to vote but the few other Sudanese residents who live in
      Abyei area. Those who are going to included will be South Sudanese if win back our Ngok Dinka.To (Midit or Mitot)Please put in mind that the Dead Satan Ngundeng and Gatluak Manguel have nothing to do with our Ngok Dinka. You try to promoted Satan Ngundeng to be like Satan Mohammed

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      • 24 September 2012 14:02, by Mi diit

        Dinkawarrior,
        I know you will one day believe in Ngundeng like you did some years back through the hard way.

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    • 24 September 2012 15:09, by zulu

      WoW. Badri Din. Why should south disarm the spla-n for you, cant you finish your job which you started a yr ago, to disarm them, and you continue to arm yau yau? well, who is losing the fight? continue to wallow at the blue nile water gates.

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    • 24 September 2012 18:18, by sudani ana

      I wonder how Bashir is going to talk with this imbecile who can hardly string a sentence together.

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      • 24 September 2012 21:14, by Chol

        Sudani ana, South-Sudan president is wiser than you think; remember, when Bashir invaded Abyei before referendum; our president told SPLA and South-Sudanese that, if we respond to this invasion; it will undermine our referendum to become independent. That turn-out to be the smartest idea and now South-Sudan is an independent state. Your well-string sentence did not serve you well now in Sudan.

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    • 25 September 2012 07:59, by Lokure Ngorok

      Mr.Sudanese vice president suggests South Sudan to disarm SPLA/M-N?
      Mr. Vice preident,now you are confirming that both South Kordofan and Blue Nile belongs to South Sudan,right?
      South Sudan is capable of disarming those soldiers.

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  • 24 September 2012 11:29, by forza

    Why the meeting was postponed to Monday ?what are they still talking about? If the two presidents went there it means there was an agreement between both sides and they are going there only for final touches.it seems that both sides are afraid to compromise because they are afraid face public who are putting hopes on them..no more meetings no more negotiations ,we want everything cleared this time

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    • 24 September 2012 12:22, by Lok T Simon

      Dear RSS President and Chief Negotiators,
      More than half century before RSS independence,Southern Sudanese people had been surffered under Sudan government but they were still survive and they hadn’t give up their rights as citizen of Sudan owning their land. Within this negotiation, we don’t need short cuts to reach a deal. We rather accept sanction if Un makes sanction against someone rights.

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      • 24 September 2012 12:50, by Lok T Simon

        — - We rather accept sanction if UN can make sanctions against someone rights than for us to make short cuts and our next generations are going to surffer like us. It is good to finalise this problem between Sudan & RSS right now. It doesn’t matter what ever roads it takes us but we need to stand on our rights where there will be no less and no more take away.
        Thanks.

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  • 24 September 2012 13:04, by nancy

    Mr.cowboy should look @ boader issues&Abyei

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    • 24 September 2012 13:28, by Lok T Simon

      He might be cowboy but he is not intruder. He is original owner of the land. Think twic b4 you post nonsene on the web.

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  • 24 September 2012 13:06, by hellonearth

    look at the silly logic of fake Arabs, how can S.P.L.A go into foreign country and disarm A foreign Rebels? are your people really thinking in what they say? first of all S.P.L.A can’t and should not do it because its the work for the weak S.A.F

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  • 24 September 2012 14:52, by Mapuor

    Mile 14 is 100% South,Abieie is not,Abeie is part of Sudan according to 1956 borders but becoz they need session from the Sudan their case should be handled separately just in the same way other northern areas are handled such as Nuba and blue nile regions

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  • 25 September 2012 08:14, by NO PEACE

    Bashir and KIIR WILL NOT RIGHT THAT TALK.

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