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May 30, 2012 (KHARTOUM) – Negotiators from Sudan and South Sudan on Wednesday shared views of what they expect from each other in order to settle security and border issues, Sudan Tribune has been told.

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FILE PHOTO - Pagan Amum (left), chief negotiator from South Sudan, lead mediator for the African Union, Piere Buyoya (centre) and Sudan’s head negotiator Idriss Abdu Qadir

Sources privy to the talks being held in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa said that the negotiating teams of Khartoum and Juba agreed after a lengthy meeting to form a mini-committee comprising of three representatives from each side as well as two representatives from the African Union High Level Implementation Panel (AUHIP), the facilitator of the talks.

Negotiations between Khartoum and Juba resumed on Tuesday after a two-month hiatus that saw the two neighbors fighting a war around disputed oil region of Heglig which was briefly occupied by South Sudan before being re-taken by Sudan.

The sources revealed that the two sides presented proposals on security issues, including cessation of support to rebels, disputed regions and cross-border hostilities.

According to the sources, the proposal of Khartoum’s negotiators contained demands that Juba severs its ties with “the 9th and 10th divisions” of the southern army, SPLA, in reference to the combatants of the rebel Sudan People’s Liberation Movement North (SPLM-N) which is fighting the Sudanese government in the country’s border regions of South Kordofan and Blue Nile.

Khartoum’s negotiators said that the two SPLA divisions-turned-rebels in the run-up to South Sudan’s secession last year must accept to be disarmed in order to find a comprehensive solution to their situation, either through the Disarmament, Demobilization and Reintegration program (DDR) which is a key provision of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA).

Sudanese negotiators also indicated the possibility of holding direct negotiations with the commanders of SPLM-N forces under the supervision of the AUHIP led by former South African President Thabo Mbeki.

The security problems have gradually been part of the talks on the outstanding issues in the implementation of the CPA the two parties signed in 2005.

The fighting in South Kordofan between the Sudanese army and the SPLM-North stems from the failure of the two sides to agree on the implementation of security arrangements. The lack of a clear mechanism in the CPA on how and when they should be disarmed led to military confrontation between them when the Sudan Armed Forces (SAF) threatened to forcefully disarm the SPLM-N combatants.

On the other hand Juba, since before the start of South Kordofan rebellion, accuses Khartoum of backing rebel groups that appeared in South Sudan after April 2010 elections.

Furthermore, the negotiators demanded that South Sudan ceases all forms of support to rebel groups from the western region of Darfur and expels them from its territories. Khartoum’s team also demanded that SPLA forces withdraw south of the 1956 borders and asked for the formation of a committee to monitor this process.

On the other hand, Juba’s proposal insisted that Khartoum reinstates commitment to all previous agreements, including the one signed in June 2011 between Sudan’s presidential assistant, Nafie Ali Nafie, and the SPLM-N rebels in Addis Ababa.

The said agreement provided a framework for settling the conflict in South Kordofan as well as recognising the SPLM-N as a legal political force in Sudan. It was however scrapped by President Al-Bashir following a fierce campaign by anti-SPLM forces in Khartoum.

South Sudanese negotiators also insisted that Sudan pledges “in writing” to cease support to southern rebel groups as well as aerial bombardment in southern territories.

South Sudan repeatedly accuses Khartoum of conducting air raids on its territories as well as supporting rebel groups operating mainly in the South Sudan’s northern states of Unity and Upper Nile.

The southern delegation further demanded that all disputed border regions be turned into demilitarised zones under a joint administration. The sources added that the southern delegation also demanded the immediate start of negotiations on oil exports.

Sudan Tribune’s sources said that the coming hours would be crucial in determining the course of the negotiations. They said they expect that if the mini-committee manages to make progress, it would pave the way for holding a meeting of the joint political-security committee headed by the ministers of defense and chiefs of security from both sides within 48 hours.

The sources also added that the two sides are competing to demonstrate commitment to the AU roadmap and the UN Security Council (UNSC)’s resolution number 2046, which ordered them to conclude negotiations on citizenship, oil, borders and the status of Abyei within three months. They also said that each side is trying to show the other to be reluctant to abide by the resolution.

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  • 31 May 2012 10:47, by SEE ME

    SPLA/M will not accept any kind of Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA) UNLESS get the green light from ISRAEL.

    Blind followers of SPLA/M have no freedom and free thinking

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    • 31 May 2012 11:05, by Ayom Dor

      See Me
      We all wish the best conflict resolutions for the two Countries of Sudan’s origin! Stop your childish comments on this article! South Sudanese love peace and it is naive of you to think Jewish State or Isreal has something to do with negotiation, all of us flow and shed bloods, whether Arabs or Africans or even Jewish! Grow up Mr. See Me!

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      • 31 May 2012 11:26, by SEE ME

        Ayom Dor

        Most of SOUTHERN SUDANESE here in this website are very fluent in using bad, impolite, irrespectable, street women language and even behavior of bad boys.

        Is this what the universities and training centers in SOUTH SUDAN are developing the peoples there with it?

        I HOPE THIS REPETITION WILL MAKE THE UNCHANGEABLE WILL CHANGE and act like HUMAN BEINGS.

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        • 31 May 2012 11:58, by Moluddit Demalou

          SEE Me.You are totally stupid arab and homosexualist absent minded,why do you still calling us Southern Sudanese as we are the same Country.Don’t you know that we have separated since last year as an independent Country with her own constitution that governed it.We are called South \Sudanese but Not Southern Sudanese.The other is because you were possess from Darfur when you were an African nature

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          • 31 May 2012 12:27, by SEE ME

            Moluddit Demalou

            Most of SOUTHERN SUDANESE here in this website are very fluent in using bad, impolite, irrespectable, street women language and even behavior of bad boys.

            Is this what the universities and training centers in SOUTH SUDAN are developing the peoples there with it?

            I HOPE THIS REPETITION WILL MAKE THE UNCHANGEABLE WILL CHANGE and act like HUMAN BEINGS.

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        • 31 May 2012 21:10, by Kur Alier

          See Me stop playing Innocent you are phonies and your culture is well known by south Sudanese. you can ask somebody to join your food when actually you don’t want him to accept. the human behavior you are talking about we have in plenty and to prove that look for one of the thousands POWs we freed and ask them they will tell you. anyone who goes against your EVIL is a JEW or MO-SAT agent.. biss

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        • 1 June 2012 13:48, by South Dengjok

          Sorry for 4 kind of stupidity that u guy undergone with,pls don,t insult and challenges South sudan which can not be likewise ur North sudan whose people still under Civilization and having no system for life style as well as education,pls South sudanes is respected countries among the 193 developed countries in the world despit that it got its independenc at last.
          and fuck u very much my lady.

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      • 31 May 2012 11:36, by SEE ME

        Ayom Dor

        Most members of MESEERIA tribe who married to DINKA women are very proud and happy and united but SPLA/M some DARFURIAN rebels are the real REFUELERS of civil wars.

        DINKA BAHR ALGHAZAL taught MESSERIA and REZAIGAT how to catch and eat fishes at BAHR ALARAB.

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        • 31 May 2012 22:36, by Zionist

          SEE ME
          I like your positive attitude, when you mentioned historical facts about the amiable relationship between Dinka and their Messeriya neighbours. You just showed that Dinka people are friendly, peaceful and can get along with with others. However, I hope the rest of Sudan will believe the same way. Let’s believe in peace, and let’s achieve it for our two nations.

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      • 31 May 2012 16:08, by wadelsudan

        From day post refrandum SS indulged in sponsoring rebels ,breaking trust between two countries, occupying our land, we are only interested in security issues unless you stop all hositilities nothing will happen if arman and agar are walking freely in juba forget about any future cooperation.

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        • 31 May 2012 21:01, by zulu

          Wadel @#$@
          WE ARE AWARE THAT THESE TALKS ARE TO BUY TIME AND IT IS LIKEWISE A WASTE OF IT. YOUR PROBLEM IS FAITH IN HOLDING ON TO POWER WITHOUT SHARING. THE CPA SHOWED THE ROADMAP TO SUDAN’S LONGIVITY. FOLLOW IT AND SUDAN WIL PROSPER. IF NOT GO TO HELL.
          SECURITY THAT ASKS US TO DISARM WHO MAKES NO SENSE. YOU PURSUED THAT ROAD SOLVE IT YOURSELVES.

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    • 31 May 2012 11:14, by mayom maboung marek

      scrutinized NCP documents thoroughly, see whether they are claiming Nimule also. you deny from them that the hot sun in Khartoum is not SPLM/A creation, it is global worming.

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    • 31 May 2012 12:24, by Jewish Ally

      See me
      your government always align to Iran and the rest of the Arabs country making the land of black to be Arab continent.
      second to that you are anti-Israel and US.
      how much does it cost NCP to be friend Israel, is it an affordable?
      you are the one with your ego creating your own enemity with Jewish.
      SPLM brought you to the table for CPA, the same SPLM/A will make to accept this Peace talk.

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      • 31 May 2012 12:46, by SEE ME

        Jewish Ally

        I love IRAN...I love IRAN... I love HEZBALLA...I love HEZBALLA...

        IRANIAN Technology is pure US and GERMAN it was started durning SHAH of IRAN time.
        US and ISRAEL know that very well.

        How many times IRAN has captured US made pilotless planes??

        Iam not NCP member but it has many well eaducated and highly professional engineers.

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        • 31 May 2012 13:13, by abraham

          I am not surprised by your comment, it would be dumb for terrorist to hate another. Iran-Hizbollah are your friends no doubt that why Khartoum will never in peace period

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          • 31 May 2012 13:24, by SEE ME

            abraham

            IRAN is an member of OPEC.
            IRAN is rich and well developed country.

            The president of IRAN refused to have servants and all presidential facilites. He is the team member with his wife in prepaing their food.

            What about KIR? Haviy 100 servants and 25% of RSS’s budget is for him and him family.

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        • 31 May 2012 23:10, by Zionist

          SEE ME
          SPLM is not all Dinka, just like NCP is not all Jal’alin. You can be one or the other; however, you don’t need to invite IRAN and ISRAEL into the already volatile situation. Your people and mine deserve peace, security, prosperity and good neighbourhood. Stay postive when you comment, my friend.

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    • 31 May 2012 12:31, by Bentiu CAPTAIN

      This stupid ARAB of Khartoum still think that they can fool us in every thing. They can not, they are real big fools. If they can not settle the problem of South Kordufan and Blue Nile with the SPLA-N leaders,Malik Agar and Abdel Azis El Hilu , how do they think South Sudan will help Khartoum to bring peace to these two regions.The people from these regions are black like us, they are our brothers

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      • 31 May 2012 13:31, by pabaak

        our team should concentrate on three issues only,1) the demarcation of South Sudan border as shown by the new map of South Sudan,2)the regime has to move out from all South Sudan territories before any solutions, like Panthou, and all other areas,3)compensations for our stolen oils including the currently stolen oil from Panthou, our negociation team can not waste time again on oil transit fees

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        • 31 May 2012 13:39, by pabaak

          and issues of rebels, we believe that we don’t have rebels of Sudan in our territories in South Sudan, they are in their liberated areas in Sudan, we have nothing to do with them, they are already mature enough and become a monster over there, they have their representatives in the world more than NCP do, so if they think South Sudan will become another Chad, then they are playing with our minds

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    • 31 May 2012 16:41, by zulu

      SEE,
      You are vey stupid indeed. Read the article and make logical argument than accusing. Do you know that Nefie agreed in principe on a political settlement but Beshir reneged and proposed to settle it militarily which now back fires dramatically? Juba has nothing to do with your political problems.

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      • 31 May 2012 19:28, by SEE ME

        Zulu
        You are the OBSCENE

        Most of SOUTHERN SUDANESE here in this website are very fluent in using bad, impolite, irrespectable, street women language and even behavior of bad boys.

        Is this what the universities and training centers in SOUTH SUDAN are developing the peoples there with it?

        I HOPE THIS REPETITION WILL MAKE THE UNCHANGEABLE WILL CHANGE and act like HUMAN BEINGS.

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        • 31 May 2012 21:16, by zulu

          SEE. YOUR BACKWARD UNIVERSITIES HAVE TAUGHT YOU NOT TO USE LOGIC IN REASONING. THAT’S HOW STUPID YOU ARE.
          THERE IS NO WAY YOU BELIEVE IRAN IS DEVELOPED. I HAVE BEEN TO IRAN THIS PAST FEB AND IT IS INDISCRIBABLE TO SEE HOW PRICES HAVE RISEN DUE TO US IMPOSED EMBARGO. GO SEE FOR YORSELF.

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    • 31 May 2012 21:20, by Elijah B. Elkan

      See Me,

      Sir, with all due respect, you’re a stupid ass. Stay with the article.

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    • 1 June 2012 09:35, by Johndumo14

      All these AlShabaab militants, saudia arabia is behind this rebels,shabaab militants got their money and guns from soudia,most of the world terorists come fromSaudia Arabia.And Saudia Arabia Government pretends they did not do any thing,most arabs government lie to ouside world,they are mafia and thugs leaders.They have the money,they buy corrupts leaders with money even leaders of Africa and Euro

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    • 1 June 2012 14:11, by South Dengjok

      Dear My wife.

      pls allow me to ask u one question on ur fucken and damn statment that u guy said.
      who alway allies with other guy between SPLM AND NCP SINCE THEN(21 Years back)
      u guy ur shite and foolish ,u are those who alway go to ur muslim or arab brotherhood that u decieve urself with.
      keep silent
      don,t rush and miss said any thing,ask me for history u guy of North i will tell u.

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  • 31 May 2012 11:02, by hellonearth

    SEE ME,
    YOU JUST HAVE TO WAIT FOR YOU TO WISH THAT I WAS IN SUDAN

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    • 31 May 2012 11:47, by SEE ME

      hellonearth

      Don’t like a child and woman !!!

      Where do you want to me?

      We all die one day ! and many of ARAB rooted DARFURIANS were killed by criminals like you.

      Where are you.. in EUROPE or USA ..iam ready to meet you ?

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      • 31 May 2012 13:46, by Grace Amani

        SEE ME,
        Why do you want to see him in USA, just come to Republic of South Sudan or within any board of the Two Countries so that you confirm how powerful is he. He is the son of the soil,Original S.Sudan.

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        • 31 May 2012 14:37, by SEE ME

          Grace Amani

          Land of SATANS is much better for me than SOUTH SUDAN.

          Is he ready to me at KAFIA KINJI or in SAFAHA and when?

          In ABYEI SPLA/M is begging SAF to move out and i don’t want to be covered by SAF. My tribe is part of me and iam part of my tribe.

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          • 31 May 2012 21:22, by zulu

            SEE.
            YOU HAVE SUMMED IT UP. THE LAND OF LUCIPHER IS BETTER THAN HEAVEN, SOUTH SUDAN. FOR THE DEVIL’S KINGDOM IS HELL AND HIS ACTIONS ARE EVIL. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE DEVIL PLANNING GOOD AND GIVING GOOD ADVICE

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          • 31 May 2012 23:26, by Zionist

            SEE ME
            My friend you sound more and more like a JAL’ALI than a DARFURIAN; otherwise, why would you stand agains all the innocent, men, women and children who were masscared by the NCP government? Don’t you think that DARFURIANs deserve some justice? I think you should listen to "Aaban" more and more my friend.

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        • 31 May 2012 14:48, by SEE ME

          Grace Amani

          I want you to come to DARFUR to prepare for me ASEEDA with KAWAL.

          Do you know how to prepare MULAH MIRIS for me?
          I want you to forget the treatment of JALABA with you.

          Pls don’t feel worried we will not kill or badly treat mwomen.
          Most Dinka women chooed marriage with MESEERIA and REZAIGAT men

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        • 31 May 2012 14:59, by SEE ME

          Grace Amani

          I will be very HAPPY to convert you to MUSLIM.

          It will be great implemention in my whole life based on what i strongly believe in it.

          What about the man you ask me to meet him?

          I will be very lucky to meet and catch him then before any step i will ask him to convert to MUSLIM.

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          • 31 May 2012 15:10, by SEE ME

            Grace Amani

            Many members of my tribe married to NUBIAN women.

            NUBIAN women are polite, calm, honest, womenly behavior to their husbands, good mothers, full respect to her mother and father in law.....

            I don’t care for color and as Iam strong believer in ISLAM; that is done by ALLAH. I have no right to say any thing about color of Human beings. That is my conflict with many muslisms

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            • 31 May 2012 15:20, by SEE ME

              Grace Amani

              BOTTOMLINE: Grace Amani when you will request "hellonearth" to meet me there?

              We are Africans let’s meet and talk.

              CHADIANS never killed each other in their villages. they usually go and meet far away.
              That is the tradition of real men, so let’s copy that and meet some where as i choosed.

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  • 31 May 2012 11:07, by okucu pa lotinokwan

    Otherwise,I do know Khartoum very well they are Fox.Omer Bashir was all behind the intentifying all these war,after the asigning of border machanism is Addis Ababa.Again Omer Change it up side down,they will agree with now,but yet tomorrow you do hear different demand or behaviour from them.Thabo Mbeki can not solve this,as mediator since he took something from Khartoum govt.

    OKUCU PA LOTINOKW

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  • 31 May 2012 11:10, by Bol Akoch Buoi

    "Late is better then never" what I am trying to say is that never rush any agreement and sign. Be careful and be vigilant with these masterminding regime. Khartoum is well known for dishonoring agreements. Their demands are absurd and bizarre. South Sudan should cuts all ties with this illicit regime. Stability and prosperity will never prevail if South Sudan maintain its relationship with North.

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  • 31 May 2012 11:31, by mohammed ali

    Why is the hurry for the "immediate talk about the oil export"? We did not shut down the pipe-line, you did! You better wait untill our economy collapses.Meanwhile you could build your dream pipe=line through Kenya, Ethiopia or even transport it by trucks. Take your time, Khartoums economy collapsing.You shut it down, you have to find a way to open it up!!! It is your oil and it is your bussiness!

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    • 31 May 2012 11:43, by Junta

      South Sudan’s Negotiators must emphasize on the withdrawal of SAF from 1956 borders and occupied territories which include Panthou/Higlig, Kafie Kingi, Hofrat e nahas, Kaka, Maguinis and Joda and Insist that Sudan stop laying claims to htis areas as they are South Sudan’s based on CPA’s 1956 borders or else no negotiation on Oil or any other issues with the devils (Sudan)

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    • 31 May 2012 12:01, by daniell

      Big appreciation to South and North Sudan.It seem both side are converging to the affinity of neighbourhood.Well done guys.This is what citizens of South and North Sudan longing for and Africa’s people at large.Thanks.Best regard alwayieds.

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    • 31 May 2012 13:16, by pabaak

      Ali, why you hurry for security issues, we didn’t tell Basheir to disarm SPLA/M-N by force, is because of your miscalculations that led you to this situation, do you thinks somebody will pick arms to liberate himself and just give it up as simply as you think. that is sometime you can think of so-called Arab of North there must be something wrong on their head.

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  • 31 May 2012 12:35, by Bauer

    Jalaby, there are Northerners who seek peace.From most if not all your comments, u always try and divert people’s minds from the article.Exporting oil through N.Sudan as a sovereign state is not through that piece of land in your village.GROW UP and STOP inciting web violence on this site.I don’t think a REAL Muslim behaves and speaks dirty like you.Who knows how your kids will be like!!!!!!

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  • 31 May 2012 13:02, by pabaak

    Fake arabs are not good at negotiations and the battle field, just run and escape is their culture, and run their big mouth, our negotiation team shouldn’t even touch the issue of rebels in North,they are fighting their freedom, who forget Nuba,Angesina, and Durforians as indigenous people in North Sudan, where were Bashir’s Uncle, they were running their business of slave traders in Arabia gulf

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    • 31 May 2012 13:27, by SEE ME

      pabaak

      Most of SOUTHERN SUDANESE here in this website are very fluent in using bad, impolite, irrespectable, street women language and even behavior of bad boys.

      Is this what the universities and training centers in SOUTH SUDAN are developing the peoples there with it?

      I HOPE THIS REPETITION WILL MAKE THE UNCHANGEABLE WILL CHANGE and act like HUMAN BEINGS.

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    • 31 May 2012 13:31, by Sudani+

      Pabak,
      No security, not negotiation in any other issues
      SPLM?-N are part of the SPLM/A and still the money of S ppl is used to pay the salaries of SPLM/A-N!
      Believe me, soon your government will kick them out Juba! and SAF will kick them out of Kauda
      By the way what happened to the Nubian Leader (Talaphone KOK)who is still in Juba,s prisons?

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      • 31 May 2012 14:03, by pabaak

        If there is any security at all will be demilitarize border between Sudan and South Sudan, because present of Saf in Panthou is illegal, even Abyei, saf didn’t move out instead camouflage in police uniform as UN has allowed them to be police in area. it will never be issue of SPLN/M-N, we don’t even control or pay them, they said one time their biggest supply of ammunition is SAF

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      • 31 May 2012 15:42, by Bentiu CAPTAIN

        Sudani+

        Mind your own business, If you can not defeat Agar and El Hilu, then South Sudanese can NOT do it for you. These guys are fighting for their freedom , you either give them their freedom in their land or enjoy the disco OF their weapons. South Sudan is not CHAD. Concering the pipe line we have the OIL and we can make any pipe line to any country, KENYA, Tanzania ,etc .

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        • 31 May 2012 19:19, by SEE ME

          Bentiu CAPTAIN
          Yes "South Sudan is not CHAD. "

          THEN FORGET about SAF and try the ARABS of CHAD

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        • 31 May 2012 23:37, by Northern Sudanese

          Bentiu CAPTAIN

          we dont care about your pipeline..........The traitors called Agar have all the freedom they need, but they want chairs not freedom..........they better put their arms down or end up like Khalil Ibrahim XD

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          • 1 June 2012 08:23, by zulu

            Northern Sudanese, give us Beshir, Haroun and Nefi and we will hand you Agar and Hillu. Security exchange.

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  • 31 May 2012 19:55, by Abraham

    Why negotiating with terrorists in the first place. Khartoum government is just a terrorists regime. This government is terrorizing its citizens in Darfur, Nuba Mountains and Blue Nile. Fake Arabs seem not to learn. South Sudan has gone. No doubt Nuba, Fur and Blue Nile people will separate and only then there will be peace in the Sudan. Now, there is peace b/t North and SouthSudan becoz South gon

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  • 31 May 2012 20:54, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

    If I was Kiir and Riek Administ should stopped talking to settlers,prepared long war. Peace will never in withNIF in sudan. The objective is Land invasion for Arab. There is no another Sudan Land we will find on Earth than Africa we have today. Settlers wanted to extinct black in their Land. South leaders should stopped weakness,greedy,selffishness,
    be National,Land is about everything to live.

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  • 31 May 2012 23:44, by Zionist

    South Sudan is genuine about peace, security and stability. It has fully complied with the UN resolution 2046, and it’s looking forward for reaching a settlement with Sudan on all the unresolved issues. Now, who’s putting the obsticles and who wants the war to continue, and for what?.

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  • 1 June 2012 00:42, by solider

    genuine about peace?????!!!!
    paying salaries of SPLM/N and leaving behind 4 millions south sudan citizens in hunger and starvation and u call that genuine about peace?so u have any idea how much millions of dollors SPLA spent on supporting al hillo (he is not a nuba) and agar?

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  • 1 June 2012 06:35, by Mi diit

    I think the negotiations in Addis Ababa are just meant for consumption by the international community. Even if they agree on paper, who will trust Khartoum to implement it. These Khartoumers are born to lie. They are not to be trusted. Let them forget about South Sudan’s lands such as Panthou and Abyei as a good will if they can be trusted.

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  • 28 July 2012 18:26, by danaray79

    Truly impressive and nice information. Thanks for sharing. Essay Writing.

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