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Inclusion of Heglig in South Sudan’s new map unsupported by evidence, Khartoum says

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May 14, 2012 (KHARTOUM) – South Sudan’s decision to include disputed border regions such as Heglig in its new map is lacking in evidence, a Sudanese official argued on Sunday.

Earlier this month, the newly independent Republic of South Sudan revealed its new official map which incorporated territories whose ownership is also claimed by neighboring Sudan.

Juba says that those areas, which include Heglig oilfields, the site of recent fighting between Sudan and South Sudan, and Abyei, another hotly contested region, were illegally annexed to Sudanese territories by successive governments in Khartoum.

South Sudan briefly occupied Heglig last month but later withdrew forces due to what appears to be a mix of foreign diplomatic pressure and attacks by the Sudanese army.

According to the Sudanese chairman of the joint border-demarcation committee with South Sudan, Abd-Allah Al-Sadiq, Juba’s inclusion of those areas is “erroneous” and has no proof in existing documents.

He told reporters in Khartoum that the borders between the two countries are the ones that stood when Sudan gained independence in 1956.

Al-Sadiq pointed out that there are only four areas of contention in borderlands, identifying the first as Dabat Al-Fakhar area south of Goda town in White Nile State.

The second, he said, is the area extending from Al-Muquinis Mountain to the White Nile and Kaka trade area in South Kordofan.

He added that the others include Hofrat Al-Nuhas, Kafi Kingi and Kafan Dabi in South Darfur State.

Al-Sadiq asserted that Sudan is in possession of documents and evidences confirming its ownership of these areas in terms of geography and population.

Demarcation of borders is among a host of contentious issues Khartoum and Juba have been negotiating with little success since South Sudan seceded from Sudan to form an independent state in July last year.

Sudanese officials previously said that 80 percent of the borders had been agreed but South Sudan’s Vice-President Reck Machar this week dismissed the claim, saying that the two countries contest 60 percent of the borderline.

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  • 14 May 2012 10:55, by Ayom Dor

    I dvice Khartoum to think of the residents of heglig not oil, that is when Dinka Ngok will give you all the evidences of their settlements in the area before the existence of of Sudan..

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    • 14 May 2012 11:04, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

      Ayom Dor
      heglig is the for Meseeria who married very respectful Dinka women. RSS & GOS must allow Messeria and Dinka to resolve the case of Abiei first while Heglig is 100% Sudanese town.

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      • 14 May 2012 11:40, by Makavelli

        Abdalla,
        If you believe on what your gov’t is saying about Panthou being "100%" North Sudan territory, than why are they afraid to prove that at AUHIP negotiations?. Why do they hesitate to present those evidences to AU sponsored talks?. These people were saying the same things about South Sudan being "100%" Sudan’s Arab land few years ago. And about your Messeria tribe, you don’t know your...

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        • 14 May 2012 11:49, by Makavelli

          cont...
          your interest. your interest is not oil because your cattles don’t drink oil, they drink water and eat grass which is abandon South of Kir river. Therefore, your interest is deep South. after the two gov’ts settle their disputes whether military or peaceful. you will still depend on South Sudan grassing pastures. so, when you talk, talk less and let those who need oil resources talk more.

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          • 14 May 2012 12:10, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

            Makavelli
            Bear in mind that ALLAH created all of us.ALLAH is supporting all of us. But the greediness and intervention of outsiders intensified this case. Whole Africa was been divided pieces by the white colonizationists.
            We should not follow their finger prints in our great African land.

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            • 14 May 2012 12:38, by South South

              Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla,

              SHIT called Allah and thief called Mohammed who deceived the world are just piece of dirty. Mohammed married a girl of 9 years old and married his first wife who was 40 years old. Kiss your Allah’s ass.

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              • 14 May 2012 14:58, by talentboy2

                Hello all southerners do not insult propet Mohammad.
                We have some friendly muslim nations in middle east. So what I would say this thugs in Khartoum are not Arabs but hybrid being not human, they are children of slaved. We southerners are proud Sudanese who believe in ourselves not kawajat regard being catholic or Christians.

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              • 14 May 2012 15:15, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

                South South
                You are son of a gun
                You are son of a gun
                You are son of a gun
                You are son of a gun
                Do you legal father?
                What is the profession of your mother? CURVA MARE !!!
                DU TE IN PIZDA MATEI!!

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                • 14 May 2012 20:17, by Tiger

                  The whole land of Sudan is belong to Africanism People and not for these fake arabs who are trying to be arabs,but they don’t have a close look like arabs of the Middleast.Panthou,the land of warrior and warrior Dinka Panaruu of Padang in Unity state will never ever go away with these bald heads and nasty asses fake arabs,we’re going to claim SUDAN instead of Heglig.mark my word.

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            • 14 May 2012 20:25, by Tiger

              Mohamoud Mohamed Abdalla.
              you cliam to be from Darfur then get the fuck out of Sudan and go far west where your ancestral have come from,plz away from Sudan.you was being known as CHADIAN.those who had come to SUDAN with two major tribal need to find their way to the Middleast.we do not need you anymore,please we advice you and urge you to get the fuck out of our land.so tired of your lie asses.

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              • 14 May 2012 20:36, by Tiger

                PLEASE"GET THE FUCK OUT OF OUR LAND SUDAN.
                GET THE FUCK OUT OF SUDAN.
                GET THE FUCK OUT OF SUDAN.
                GET THE FUCK OUT OF SUDAN.
                GET THE FUCK OUT OF SUDAN.
                who doesn’t know that arabs traders came to Sudan to sell their salts for some Ostrich featherS,animals skins,gold and search for a better life,now do they really pretended to be the real owners,HELL"NO" they can"SUCK MY COCK" former Donkey eater

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                • 15 May 2012 05:38, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

                  Tiger
                  You using the word "Fuck" very frequenty!!!

                  Is that what you are doing daily with the members of your family?
                  CU CETE SCRAFE AI FACUT "FUCK"?
                  CU CETE SCRAFE AI FACUT "FUCK"?
                  CU CETE SCRAFE AI FACUT "FUCK"?
                  CU CETE SCRAFE AI FACUT "FUCK"?
                  CU CETE SCRAFE AI FACUT "FUCK"?

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                • 15 May 2012 06:06, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

                  Tijer wants to be Tiger
                  DU TE IN PIZDA MATEI ESTI UN NEBUN !!
                  DU TE IN PIZDA MATEI ESTI UN NEBUN !!
                  DU TE IN PIZDA MATEI ESTI UN NEBUN !!
                  DU TE IN PIZDA MATEI ESTI UN NEBUN !!
                  DU TE IN PIZDA MATEI ESTI UN NEBUN !!
                  DU TE IN PIZDA MATEI ESTI UN NEBUN !!
                  DU TE IN PIZDA MATEI ESTI UN NEBUN !!
                  DU TE IN PIZDA MATEI ESTI UN NEBUN !!

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              • 15 May 2012 05:59, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

                Tijar

                Tell your DINKA to go back to the lakes areas and leave the land for Zanda, Ferteet and Bandala the originals.

                Tell your DINKA to go back to the lakes areas and leave the land for Zanda, Ferteet and Bandala the originals.

                I am very happy and proud that ZANDA woman will not marry DINKA while they are mixed with Arabs.

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        • 14 May 2012 11:57, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

          Makavelli
          I do believe in peaceful talks and through our AU first.
          But we are all Africans and you know that when they are in tension no body in this world can stop them.
          So let’s calm the case first and then look for permanent and peaceful solutions.
          Pls ask your SS not to use "FAKE ARABS" here.

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      • 14 May 2012 12:52, by Shadrack Nuer Machut

        Heglig is 200% a South Sudan town where origins are Dinka. it’s due to Khartoum dictatorship that brought it under control of NCP. But Khartoum was not wise to keep Sudan united. Now it’s time to face consequences of wrong leadership. Heglig , Abyei & other areas will be demarcated South Sudanese towns by military actions not negotiations.

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      • 14 May 2012 13:09, by peace seeker

        Mahmoud
        May I have your e-mail address please.

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      • 14 May 2012 14:57, by Gives-poor ’ier dues

        Mahmuud.
        easy now, tnis lise claims of South Sudan territories will come to an end soon as happened Referendum, then the third step/aim is we don,t want any arabs in sudan general!! we all read the history of arabs entry to sudan period!!

        Wengedi.

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        • 14 May 2012 15:22, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

          Gives-poor ’ier dues
          I was very close friend with my southern sudanese brothers but the new borns are devils and satans who are well paid to stand against African Unity.
          GHADHI used the "NON-VIOLENE" and obtained the freedom and indendence for INDIA.
          Yes for fair Referendum by AU.

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      • 14 May 2012 16:16, by cul achar

        Slave Mohmoud, we are still fighting by ward no action have been reach soon you will know who we are but for now we don’t want any lie here. let us first fight by ward only.

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        • 14 May 2012 16:40, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

          cul achar
          I am very proud to be called slave by Africans

          You are worshipping the whites and licking their feet.

          You are very happy for being slave for your white masters.

          You better read the book "ROOTS" bY ALEX.

          YOUR worst grand fathers were among those who sold the blacks to whites.

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          • 15 May 2012 06:39, by Joseph Canada

            Mohammed, Stop the childish discussion here. Some of us have our people being invaded and chased out of their Motherland by the Traders who came to Africa for the search of Hides and ivory. We have read and watched Videos of that book and it has nothing to do with the Blood shade of our people by the Immigrants like ur roots. So get it right and behave like a mature grown ass man. Talk sense.

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      • 15 May 2012 09:31, by okucu pa lotinokwan

        Mahmoud,if you have refuse to leave Panthou peaceful it will be taken by force whether you want it or not.It is a must

        OKUCU PA LOTINOKWAN

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    • 14 May 2012 11:11, by Chol A.

      Khartoum never afraid about shameful statement they use on media, you know the evidence of who are they owners of Panthou and you need evidence to support it! what evidence? you will be sorry when those evidence presesnt in the court and we will simply say sorry when you come and beg our resources from those area. the place is clearly Dinka and you need evidence we completely sick of Arab.

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    • 14 May 2012 12:44, by Robot

      Nincompoops shout a lot, i said last week that i will comment om Monday when Bashir is going to pray in Kauda!!!!!!!!!, Pathetic empty vessels, anyway let those who shout that Heglig doesn’t belong to South Sudan do, the end will determine who owns Heglig, period. Arabs never believe all the events unfolding and the idiots here are the same, let me affirm it that it isn’t a dream, it is real.

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    • 14 May 2012 13:20, by okucu pa lotinokwan

      Khartoum currently is like wounded Bafflo,Panthou,and Abyei are all Dinka names please leave Abyei and Panthou peacefull without recapturing them by force,since the SPLA already knowns the mumentum of your forces capability.

      OKUCU PA LOTINOKWAN

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    • 14 May 2012 14:11, by Shadrack Chol Buoi

      Dear Readers,

      I don’t agree with khartoum regime over Abyei as they siad that inclusion of Heglig to South Sudan is unsupported how? As we said before, there is poor administration going on with Arabs because they don’t agreed with rights in the South. To hell with you guys.

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  • 14 May 2012 11:00, by Abraham Ayom

    Who are they in Khartoum, they are just Arabs traders/foreigners who came as traders, they don’t have a right of citizenship is Sudan soil. they should keep quite about the history, geography and the map of sudan, it can only be determine by Truly Sudanese citizens

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    • 14 May 2012 12:33, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

      Abraham Ayom
      PLs reread the history of SUDAN many times. Arabs came to Sudan from north, west and east SUDAN. That was happened before the invation of white europeans to North America.
      Are you planning to remove the white Americans and African-Americans outside USA and CANADA and secure the land for the original RED INDIANS???

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      • 14 May 2012 13:54, by Abraham Ayom

        Hi Mohammad,
        Why did Arabs come to Sudan? who told them?

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        • 14 May 2012 15:29, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

          Abraham Ayom
          Why did Dinka, Nuer and Shulok come to Sudan from lakes in central Africa?
          History dictates that Darfur is land of Dajo while all the areas aroud Wau is the land of Fur and Ferteet (FEER AND FEERFEER are the original Africans of theese areas).

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  • 14 May 2012 11:06, by Atungdiak

    Got eveidence in population and geographical terms? After tweaking around making Panthou part of West Kordofan and then South Kordofan?

    Prove it! Misyeria have no piece of land around there and they know how many battles Panaruu has engaged them over water and pasture for generations . The Nuba know very well this is a Panaruu Dinka land. Let get to Hague and use British archives’ documents!

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    • 14 May 2012 11:47, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

      Atungdiak
      Are you telling meseeria to go for endless war for the last child?
      Meseeria will not leave their land for any body. Mseesria in west and south Darfur, CHAD, Tunessia, Libya are waiting for simple call our KORDOFAN Messeria.

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      • 14 May 2012 17:33, by BM-21

        Mohamuod Abdallah.
        in the first place ,you were looked like an educated guy who have an open mind,but now you are totally dull Arab.
        tell me where did south Sudanese came from to Sudan?in which book of story? me i can agree with chairman for committee of North/South borders demarcation,for accepting 1956 border.

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        • 14 May 2012 18:00, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

          BM-21
          Pls first refer To:
          CHARTER OF THE UNITED NATIONS
          CHAPTER VII
          ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THREATS TO THE PEACE, BREACHES OF THE PEACE, AND ACTS OF AGGRESSION

          Then we can discuss our boundries.

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      • 14 May 2012 23:53, by Mach

        Mahmoud, the land is not called Meseeria for Meseeria people, it’s called Abyei for Dinka ngok and that should be enough for you to know that you don’t have a land to argue for!

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    • 14 May 2012 11:53, by Loko El Pollo

      THE ONLY PEOPLE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IF WE LOSE PANTHOU ARE ABYEI SONS WHO CLAIMED IT FROM UNITY TO ABYEI BECAUSE OF OIL.DARCEP WILL GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE SCHEME.

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      • 14 May 2012 12:22, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

        Loko El Pollo

        Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, has called the south’s seizure of Heglig an "illegal act" and urged the two nations to negotiate to avoid all-out war.

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  • 14 May 2012 11:37, by Ahmado

    these will tell to world that we in south sudan very stupid we know only corruption, looting, why am say that because heglig is not new.Heglig was exist since world was created and question is why south sudan exclude heglig from south sudan map until when they discovery that arabs using heglig as a main base of attacking south sudan then SPLA decide to capture heglig and claim that heglig in s.s.

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  • 14 May 2012 12:03, by Ahmado

    and all these time heglig was using by arabs of north and south sudan are quiet now they open their eyes while the things has gone worse than before Arabs are continues taking resources and leaders are watching then if resources is over what will be the future of that place now we are claim it to be the part of s sudan now enemies enjoying the resources. what is our benefit if resources are over?

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  • 14 May 2012 12:14, by Black Pharaoh

    Heglig belongs to Sudan the strong response from international community shows that it was never considered as a disputed area.The GoSS is living in denial and they are dragging their country to a war they can never win

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    • 14 May 2012 13:05, by Dinka land

      Black or red, Jalaby, and Mahmoud, Iam sure my people will win the war if there will be not pressure from international community again . An example was Heglig when all cats were ruined by their enemy. Heglig will never and never be in Khartoum again in up coming few days. We are going to modify out all dirty dead bodies without delayment and we are not going to accept s

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      • 14 May 2012 16:55, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

        Dinka land
        I beg you to tell the GOS to allow the FAKE ARABS from KORDOFAN, DARFUR, CHAD... to be in war with the Devils of SPLA/M. GOS needs to watch and see.
        Call us Jenjaweed, UM CHOCHO,... that is your business.
        I swear in ALLAH you can not even fight my sister.
        Can i meet in ABASHI CHAD?

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    • 14 May 2012 16:11, by zulu

      Black Phero,
      Do not argue as an idiot who bases their argument on emotion and shoddy arguments. The international community does not have evidence as to who bears what, when and why if there is no cliam of ownership. Since south sudan contests it, now it must be argued by the ncp and juba. We only need Panthou as we know it. South sudan will not cede territory to sudan. this must be clear for ncp

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      • 15 May 2012 18:33, by Black Pharaoh

        zulu,
        The only idiot here is you.Heglig was never a disputed area you can check this link:
        http://www.pca-cpa.org/showpage.asp?pag_id=1306
        This is the official website of the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) just click on the final award map which shows that Heglig is clearly on the northern side of 1956 border.

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  • 14 May 2012 13:26, by Go to Hell

    All of North Sudan belong to the South and if South Sudanese accepted to share the land with trays arab from Saudia Arab then you should thanks God that you got a land to stay. otherwise the land is for black South Sudanese upto red sea.
    Respect South Sudanese border for you to survive in Sudan otherwise you will be chase back to where you came from.

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    • 14 May 2012 13:52, by Black Pharaoh

      It is obvious that you have no idea of what you’re talking about.Read your history brother don’t make a fool out of yourself by making these insane claims.
      All of the north belongs to the south LOL!!!

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  • 14 May 2012 13:47, by Black Pharaoh

    Talk is cheap.Action speaks louder than words.The south doesn’t have the military strength to back their claims
    come to Heglig again and we will send you back in coffins just like the first time.

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  • 14 May 2012 15:15, by Beneben Bai

    Black Frrwa,it a sorrow to name youself as black. balck is beauty my freind. so U don’t desrve to be black because you are just "frrwa". Frrwa, why don’t you belive in your lies since U keep making them? the whole world was missled by you. Now, things R taking different shape. why are U so worry if U are confident that Panthou is your land? go and prove it in talks or in courts. U R in mess Frrwa

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    • 14 May 2012 16:34, by Black Pharaoh

      Mr. Beneben
      Do you really think that you can prove your point by just barging in and insulting people,the only thing you can achieve through this behaviour is displaying your ignorance to everybody.

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  • 14 May 2012 16:21, by wadelsudan

    Does south want to be in war forever, south should understand clearly that Heglig is a northern territory and it will remain northern until god inherit the world, let move on and discuss trade, business and workable differences, if you like include cairo and alexandria can u take it, that ma map is a toilet paper until you make realistic.

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  • 14 May 2012 16:39, by Beneben Bai

    khartoum don’t accept evidence from who ever provide them. but they will accept them this time whether they like it or not. some one told me one time that an arab does not accept the truth except when he is 99.9 dying. like what happened to Saddam Hussien, Gadhafi and Osama Bin Ladden. I don’t know why?? what supporting evidents are they talking about here on Panthou case??. strange!!

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    • 14 May 2012 17:30, by wadelsudan

      Heglig was never a matter of dispute or dicussion between north and south before now, we will claim malakal is ours and go after it so we could battle each other until dooms day, and it will never be forget it.

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  • 14 May 2012 17:28, by sudani ana

    To all southerners

    Would you please stop saying that Abyei and Panthou belong to the South because they have a Dinka name. If we follow the same logic then we will claim all of BAHR ELGAZAL (the river of gazel) in Arabic,The name you use for this area.

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    • 14 May 2012 17:56, by BM-21

      Sudani ana.
      where do you appear? Gazhal is not in Arabic alone to claim ,even in English is Gazhal.
      Mahmoud.
      Who are the resident of Panthou(Hegilige) are Messeria or Dinka Abiliang?it was just a matter of your pronunciation that you called it Pantou while we called it in Dinka Pan ee thou.And THOU TREE BY IT SELF YOU CALL IT in Arabic Hegilig,this is where you had divert the Name Pan-thou Hegilig

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      • 14 May 2012 18:06, by sudani ana

        Black Man 21
        I think you need to grow up a bit more before you start making these silly comments.
        BAHR EL-GAZAL if as you say gazal is gazel in English then what is BAHR does this not sound Arabic enough for you?

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      • 15 May 2012 19:40, by Mahmoud mohamed Abdalla

        BM-21
        The legal residents of Hegilig are MESEERIA while Dinka are our neibors. We lived together very peaceful and friendly before SPLA/M. Even REZAIGAT were in best relation with DINKA.
        be objective donot go for bad language

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    • 14 May 2012 22:56, by Born-to-Rule

      Sudani Ana,

      I pray to god to reduce north Sudan population to 50 percent god willing. Bashir is in business of killing it’s citizen, he has killed 2.5 million south Sudan people. He also killed almost 1 million Darfur citizens. Khartoum is evil and it must be destroyed god or by any means. They all can meet their 72 prostitutes in hell.

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  • 14 May 2012 17:41, by Zionist

    How about the exclusion of all the "fake Arabs" from the African map? unless they stop being "fake Arabs" and start living as Africans on the African soil.

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  • 14 May 2012 18:51, by panom lualbil

    Whether by guns,documents, mouth, what have you, PANTHOU belong to south sudan leave alone your luckness of taking NORTH SUDAN when yo CAME IN by matter of selling salts, ivory andsoforth. It’s so mistaken by our ANCESTORS that ARABS occupied SUDAN by chance. However, we dont need your complain at all. Remember EXUCEESSIVE of rebellions was the caused leading to these areas, but nomore rebels to

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    • 14 May 2012 19:07, by panom lualbil

      protect you this time if you let war break out again ! You should remember too, when SPLA fought yo, they had no salary. So you cann’t even think of topic like enconomic. The enconomic of both of us now, was seemed aligned. Therefore, whoever of money concern will have nowhere but to drag you back where yo come from.

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  • 14 May 2012 22:14, by Born-to-Rule

    Khartoum has killed 2.5 millions southerns, South Sudan need to arm itself and kill 20 millions fake Arabs in Khartoum. It’s useless listing to fake Arabs. South Sudan must learn to defense itself. Bahsir and Hussein are the world’s most wanted criminals dead or alive. Inbreeding in north Sudan is creating many stupid people.

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  • 14 May 2012 22:48, by Born-to-Rule

    This is frustrating, where the heck is the new map! ---- Can some one please post the new map so all can see it ?.

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    • 14 May 2012 23:41, by wadelsudan

      Kirr used the new map as a toilet paper that is why you can find it any where ,lol

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      • 15 May 2012 04:55, by Mou

        To say Heglig belong to north Sudan is like saying, Khartoum belongs to Egypt and the residents of Khartoum are Sudanese.

        How can residents of Khartoum be Sudanese and the city belongs to Egypt?

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  • 15 May 2012 04:57, by James Maker Akok

    demacation_line 1956

    This is a map

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  • 15 May 2012 05:15, by James Maker Akok

    Hi see that!

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