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Sudan says no desire for full-fledged war with south despite military escalation

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March 27, 2012 (KHARTOUM) – The Sudanese government on Tuesday said that it has no plans to enter the territories of South Sudan despite the military confrontation that occurred on Monday, which is considered the most serious since the country’s partition in July 2011.

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South Sudanese Minister of Information Barnaba Benjamin Marial, right, and Military Spokesman Philip Aguer brief the media on Tuesday, March 27, 2012 in Juba, south Sudan (AP)

The director of the National Intelligence and Security Services (NISS) Mohamed Atta Abbas al-Moula held a press conference detailing Khartoum’s version of events relating to the battles that broke out in South Kordofan between Sudan Armed Forces (SAF) and Sudan People Liberation Army (SPLA).

South Sudan president Salva Kiir announced on Monday that SAF launched aerial and ground attacks against areas in Unity State and near the poorly defined borders with South Kordofan state.

Kiir said that they repelled the attack and pursued SAF inside Sudan’s borders and in the process took "full control" of the oil-rich Heglig region. But SPLA spokesperson Philip Aguer later contradicted Kiir’s saying they only captured parts of Heglig.

The South Sudanse leader also said that Heglig belonged to his country laying the ground for a future dispute with the north over its ownership similar to the standoff over Abyei, another oil-producing region.

SAF spokesperson al-Sawarmi Khalid Sa’ad yesterday acknowledged the clashes with the SPLA but also alleged the involvement of Darfur rebels the Justice and Equality Movement (JEM) in the Heglig attack.

Sa’ad said that SAF "bravely" resisted what he suggested was a surprise attack by SPLA and retreated 10 kilometers north of the international borders but he vehemently denied South Sudan’s claims that they overran Heglig.

The military spokesperson added that SAF was still dealing with remnants of the attacking forces.

OIL FIELDS

On Tuesday, South Sudan accused SAF of targeting oil fields in Unity State with aerial bombardments.

“I have just been informed about the new attacks by the state authorities that Sudanese warplanes have indiscriminately bombed the area this morning” Stephen Dhieu Dau the country’s oil minister, told Sudan Tribune on Tuesday. “The attack is targeting oil fields”, Dau added.

The oil minister further said he received information that Sudanese warplanes were still “flying low” and “hovering” everywhere in strategic areas of the oil wells in the state.

“I am told one of the bombs nearly hit a compound of the Greater Nile Petroleum Operating Company (GNPC), a consortium of oil companies led by China’s CNPC, operating in Unity State”, the minister said.

“They bombed one of the wells in Rubokana town which is not far away from Bentiu town”, Dau said adding that the Sudanese government has been looking for “an excuse” to attack South Sudan’s oil fields.

The senior official said that he does not yet have details on whether there are direct damages to oil facilities but was told that one bomb narrowly missed a camp there.

“At the moment there is no information about damages. The latest information I have is that they [Khartoum] have once again bombed our oil fields. We are still waiting for details of the attack from our field staff members. It will be from their report that we shall be able to tell whether there are damages” Dau said.

Asian oil group the Greater Nile Petroleum Company (GNPOC) - a consortium led by the Chinese National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) - confirmed its facilities had been hit.

"The warplanes are hovering everywhere ... One bomb actually just missed Unity base camp but anywhere else so far there is no information," GNPOC Vice President, Chom Juaj, told Reuters.

"They bombed the oil field but so far we are still waiting for the report from the field telling us if they are damaged or not," he said.

Sudan’s spy chief, Atta, on Tuesday said that SAF has pushed SPLA deeper into South Sudan.

He strongly denied Juba’s claims that the clashes started after SAF attack on Jau because, according to Atta, it was already occupied by SPLA and northern rebel forces.

The NISS director said Khartoum initially sought to convince Juba to pull it forces out of the areas they attacked inside Sudan. But after additional SAF enforcements were sent, the southern army launched a new assault forcing SAF units to withdraw deeper inside Sudan.

He stressed that never at any point did SPLA enter Heglig and at its best was six kilometers away from the region.

"Until one hour ago troops of the southern army were still ten kilometers on our side of the border. We have now advanced ... and are still expelling them." Some prisoners had been taken, he said.

"We hope this will be no full war," he added. "We have no intentions beyond liberating our [occupied] land. We don’t want to enter southern territory" Atta added.

BASHIR-KIIR SUMMIT

The latest clashes dashed hopes of a new phase in relations between the ex-foes ahead of a planned 3 April meeting between Sudanese president Omer Hassan al-Bashir’s and his South Sudanese counterpart Salva Kiir.

Yesterday, the Sudanese 2nd Vice-President, al-Haj Adam Yusuf, announced that the summit has been called off following the attack and that no negotiations will resume without an improvement in the security situation.

But South Sudan’s minister of information, Barnaba Marial Benjamin Bil, said that Juba has not received a formal message informing them of the cancellation.

“We still expect president Bashir to attend the summit because we have not until this moment received an official communication cancelling the visit as per initial plan”, Marial told reporters on Tuesday. The minister explained that the invitation was extended to Sudanese president with “clear intention” to strike a deal that would normalise relations in a manner that would benefit both sides.

Marial denied that the invitation was an "ill thought plan or trick” to arrest Bashir once he arrives. He accused voices in the Sudanese government of misconstruing the move and mounting a campaign against it with “war like tones” intended to “distort” the purpose for which the invitation was made.

“We remain committed to the purpose of inviting the Sudanese president. We are for peace although it seems there voices agitating against in Khartoum by trying to derail the process,” he said before adding that the country would not accept to be dragged into war with Sudan.

"Our president has said it clear time and again that we will not accept return the two countries into a senseless war. We will not accept be dragged into a conflict with Sudan”, the minister said.

INTERNATIONAL REACTION

On Tuesday the UK’s permanent representative to the UN, Mark Lyall-Grant, which holds that rotating presidency of the UN Security Council (UNSC), read a statement on behalf of the council saying that the body’s members are “deeply alarmed” by the military clashes.

The clashes “threaten to precipitate a resumption of conflict between the two countries, worsen the humanitarian situation, and lead to further civilian casualties.”

The UNSC Council called upon both governments to exercise maximum restraint and sustain purposeful dialogue in order to address peacefully the issues that are fueling the mistrust between the two countries, citing oil resources, violence in the border region, citizenship, and the disputed Abyei region.

The UNSC members called on the two countries to respect the letter and spirit of their February 10 Memorandum of Understanding on Non-Aggression and Cooperation, which urged both countries to utilize the upcoming session of the Joint Political and Security Mechanism to defuse tensions along the border.

Meanwhile, the White House on Tuesday also said it was alarmed by the fighting in the Sudanese state of South Kordofan and along a disputed area of the border between Sudan and South Sudan.

Both sides, it added in a statement, must exert the greatest restraint in this situation.

The US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton separately said Washington, which helped to broker the 2005 peace deal which ended Sudan’s long civil war, held Khartoum primarily responsible for the latest hostilities, in which the two neighbours have traded accusations of attacks on either side of their contested border.

"We think that the weight of responsibility rests with Khartoum because the use of heavy weaponry, bombing runs by planes and the like, are certainly evidence of disproportionate force on the part of the government in Khartoum," she said.

Clinton said that the US wants the Bashir-Kiir summit to go as planned.

"We want to see that summit held, and we want to see both sides work together to end the violence," Clinton said, calling it "deeply distressing."

The top US diplomat said the two sides — bound inextricably by their intertwined oil industries — should focus on finding a solution to their deteriorating economies.

"There is a win-win outcome here. South Sudan has oil. Sudan has the infrastructure and the transportation networks to get the oil to market," Clinton added.

In Paris, the French foreign ministry said that France "is extremely concerned" by the fighting and called for an "immediate end".

"We strongly encourage the two countries to settle their disputes through agreements on the basis of good neighborliness and mutual respect, in particular the respect for each other s territorial integrity" said the statement.

"The implementation of the previous agreements on the establishment of a demilitarized and internationally monitored border area, as well as the demarcation of undisputed border areas, must be continued on an urgent basis in order to achieve a political settlement of the current tensions. There must be full cooperation with the United Nations to that end," the French foreign ministry said.

"The meeting scheduled to take place shortly between the presidents of the two States, following the visit to Khartoum by a high-level delegation from South Sudan on March 23, should be able to go ahead despite the recent clashes. It will be a sign of the willingness of each party to resolve the current tensions".

China also echoed sentiments expressed by Washington and Paris.

"We call on southern and northern Sudan to remain calm and restrained, keep tensions from escalating further, and remain committed to properly resolving their differences through negotiations" said Chinese Foreign Ministry’s Spokesman Hong Lei.

The two countries have been at loggerheads since the South became independent under a 2005 peace deal that ended decades of civil war.

Oil, the lifeline of both economies, is at the heart of the feud. Landlocked South Sudan took most of known reserves when it became independent but needs to export its oil through Sudan. Juba shut down its output of 350,000 barrels a day after Khartoum started taking oil to compensate for what it calls unpaid transit fees.

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  • 28 March 2012 11:20, by Daniel Buolmawei

    "We think that the weight of responsibility rests with Khartoum because the use of heavy weaponry, bombing runs by planes and the like, are certainly evidence of disproportionate force on the part of the government in Khartoum," she said."

    Thank you Hilary Clinton for being a wise Secretary of State on Earth. Sudan is obviously an agressor since separation. There’s no where on earth a foreign-

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    • 28 March 2012 12:02, by mohammed ali

      Daniel, what would you expect from her? The typical hypocricy! What weapons they were using in Afganistan & Iraq which a foreign land thousand miles away from them. They were the first country to use the atomic bomb on Earth. This war is is imposed upon us, we don’t want. Your president proudly declaired that he recovered Heglig, something he didn’t and can’t do it, but he tried....con

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      • 28 March 2012 12:07, by mohammed ali

        ..and was punished severly. We have the full right to defend our land with whatever weapons we have and every country has the same right. We still don’t war. War don’t solve any problem, it promotes hatred, division, destruction & devastation.Salva Kiir that the last thing that the pple of SS need is war.He should be humble & realistic to understand that he has no army yet. SPLA is still ....con

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        • 28 March 2012 12:14, by mohammed ali

          ..a very disorganised undiciplined militia with multiple loyalities to different clans & tribes. We don’t war because it will drain our resources. We still need more rods, schools, hospitals, dams and we will build them. It is up to your leaders to continue looooting , waging diffrent types of wars & getting fatter by the day. It is up to you to decide your fate.Defeating SAF is unattainable!

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          • 28 March 2012 13:12, by Chol

            Khartoum is not ready for full-pledge war to enter South Sudan, that’s just impractical; they will a brick-wall, dropping bombs from the air is one thing but physically enter into south Sudan is another, not only that, they don’t have army since their manpowers are now against them. Kordofanians, Blue-Nile and Darfur. That will just be an easy access for those forces to enter Khartoum easily!

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            • 28 March 2012 15:56, by Marco A. Wek

              Dear Chol, I for one lost my confidence on our current leaders. They are the ones who gave our enemy the chance to humiliate us again and again,

              I like all southern Sudanese thought these good for nothing leaders of south Sudan were going to put security of our country the priority but instead they put their personal interests ahead.

              If north were to know south is well equipped, they would not

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              • 28 March 2012 16:06, by Marco A. Wek

                dare attack southern border areas again and again but the fact that they know our leaders are busy enriching themselves from the riches that they once have, they would do everything to sabotage it since south leaders don’t care about their security .

                They need to use the stolen money to buy weapons that will let the north Sudan think twice before they make stupid move .

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              • 28 March 2012 22:23, by Tiger

                South Sudan have lost it’s hope,pride with these current leaders.what i know and believe so far is that"in the South we have some corrupted leaders who doesn’t care about our civilians.shame on you Kiir Mayardit along with your likes.you have humiliated us in everything.the Western world and Israel are loosing trust on you because you’re too naive and lack the leadership.

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                • 28 March 2012 22:32, by Tiger

                  How in the World can you keep allowing someone bombing your place and you just singing them the song(South doesn’t need no war with the North).do you think arabs will assure you that they don’t need no war with you?Mr.President you and your party have lost the trust from the Southerners,you have ate up all our resources,you never thought of buying some war planes to fight backt an aggressors......

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                  • 28 March 2012 22:40, by Tiger

                    Billions of billions of dollars had been stolen by you and your party,fatten up your bodies like some goats that are waiting to be kill.South Sudan nation armies stay to six months without pay and you with your corrupted officials keep assuring them "SPLA"were fighting the war for twenty two years without pay,well that was then before South gained it’s(indt).now what happened,are we still ...

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                    • 28 March 2012 22:47, by Tiger

                      lack some resources to pay our national armies,how do we expect them going to the frontlline without pay while other are being pay,who are those fuckin people?our heros/heroins are being robbed with their compansation,are you kidding people Mr.President,how do you feel about those disability,where can they find food,shelters and clothes to wear because they can never work due to their disability?

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                      • 28 March 2012 22:59, by Tiger

                        On March 3rd nineteen-Seventy-Two when Addis Ababa peace treaty was signed,Southerners went back to the(now)old Sudan and integrated it’s forces with the Sudan arm forces,what happened thereafter to those guns that were given to us by our best ally Israel,we lost all the guns"Israel guns and give them to Israel main enemy.now in this time just about three days ago our VP has assured Israel Ambdor.

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                        • 28 March 2012 23:09, by Tiger

                          South Sudan is in process to build it’s Ambassador in Jerusalem instead of Tel Aviv"that is good we should be happy with the dicision,but the point is that,are we real honest with Israel this time?standing with them shoulder by shoulder without kissing Khartoum anymore?Israel are always real with us and we don’t appreciate their feeling toward the South.Israel doesn’t desire someone who will agree

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                          • 28 March 2012 23:17, by Tiger

                            with them and later on change thier minds and be ally with the terrorist.i bet President should urge his sons to go and fight the war,he was the one who was barking in the microphone."my son"were young during the liberation movement.now it’s time give them those stolen from your pocket and send them immidialety to Unity State to protect that oil.because of that oil,that’s how you got rich.

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                            • 28 March 2012 23:24, by Tiger

                              All the Corrupted comrades should be in their alertness.
                              Comrade:Kuol Manyang...you’re on call to Unity.
                              Comrade:Taban Deng....you’re on call.
                              Comrade:Pagan Amum..hurry up brother.
                              Comrade:Malong Awan....hurry up.
                              Comrade:Peter Akuien..time to go.
                              Comrade:Salva Mathok don’t be late.
                              all these mentioned names must go to fight the war.all the richness money you got now came from Unity State,so hurry

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                              • 28 March 2012 23:34, by Tiger

                                Dr.Riek Machar!
                                Southerners have no more hope on you because you’re too keen in everything,you fear Kiir too much.now it’s timefor Southerners to change gears and head to another direction.
                                we will support Mr.Barnaba Benjamin for president,Deng Deng Nhial,Western Equatoria Governor,or someone who will please our civilians rather than some officials whose minds are set up to eat all our resources.

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                              • 29 March 2012 00:27, by Born-to-Rule

                                Tiger,

                                Please stay with the article, no need to be sarcastic or become disrespectful. Khartoum is enjoying your comments. Bashir will be glad to pay off those who denigrate the government of south Sudan. South Sudan is almost 10 months old and you are throwing allegations so loosely wish can be dangerous. You have no fact, for your ranting on individuals who you assume to be corrupted.

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                                • 29 March 2012 01:56, by Tiger

                                  Ya born-to rule!!
                                  you know!i don’t mind whether you disagree with me or not,but the fact is quiet clear.since the SPLm took the office what’s the initiatives step they have taken,nothing except for looting public money.

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                                  • 29 March 2012 05:24, by Born-to-Rule

                                    Tiger,

                                    With all due respect my comments has nothing to do with agreeing with you or not but you must present the facts.You need to be careful went you make allegations that damage other people good name. You need to be supportive of your new government and the country. You have no prove of corruptions but hearsay and that’s a fact. FYI — secret services in Khartoum read everything on this forum.

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                                    • 29 March 2012 20:10, by Tiger

                                      born to rule!
                                      Good point"the fact is quite true,there’s some evidences about the corruption in the South.although i can’t pick out one person inparticular,however some of the splm officials are corrupted.with the presence of our president it even made it worse because he’s a corrupted leader.if there was no corruption,South Sudan government could have bought some anti air missile.

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            • 28 March 2012 16:29, by zulu

              Indeed, how egregious these lunatics are acting, raving and renting, but they bear the full responsibility for the causation. We have the international community monitering events, but they don’t have an alibi. Their credibility haunts them, and our forces are ready to smoke them soon from Abyei. Yes, Heiglig is within our territory and we will keep for ever.

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          • 28 March 2012 14:00, by Ker.

            Mahmomed Ali

            you Arabs you need to think twice either to go back to arab-pansula or be ready to face justice on wrong deeds you have committed against the black African Sudanese.
            we are tire of your autoratic regime led by Bashir and his associates.also don,t keep on blame the South even here in Khartoum you have a big enemy more than that of the South.

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            • 28 March 2012 14:53, by mohammed ali

              Ker, we are here in our land no power on Earth can up-root us from. We are here where we have established the first civilisation on Earth 9000years ago, hundreds of centuries before you migrate from north Kenya and Tanganigia, where your Massai brothers live, to the nile basin. You are just repeating the brain washing material which was instilled in your ignorant empty skull!

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              • 28 March 2012 20:21, by Rommel

                Mohammed Ali:

                You have got to stop pretending that you are in the least bit knowledgeable with regards to history - ancient or recent.

                You have consistently demonstratred your ignorance, vacuity and dishonesty when as you so often contrive, distort and peddle your own version of history.

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                • 28 March 2012 20:46, by Rommel

                  You know exactly what happens when you posit your ridiculous claims, don’t you?:

                  I’ll request *evidence* regarding your claim of a migration from northern Kenya, knowing very well that you will fail to provide the requested evidence; preferring instead to indulge in nauseating tangents and the occasional moralizing.

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                  • 28 March 2012 20:56, by Rommel

                    The myth that certain tribes in South Sudan were originally from Kenya or Uganda is a myth much cherished by the bigots in the North. The Masai, as are the Luo were located further north to their present location; the Luo, the people of Obama’s father... were part of a kingdom with the Shilluk and many others in Bahr el Ghazal - before migrating to Kenya centuries ago.

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                    • 28 March 2012 21:13, by Rommel

                      The Nilotics are merely a branch of the Nilo-Saharan phylum, as are the Nubians. The Nilotics have been in the Nile Valley for thousands of years. The ancestral people from which the Dinka, Nuer, Shiluk and a plethora of others sprang from have inhabited the Sudd region for no less than 5000 years > 3000 BC.

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                      • 29 March 2012 02:02, by mohammed ali

                        Rommel, before asking me about my evidence , where are you evidence? Where are our eveidence that you belong to Kuch or Nubians? Where is your eveidence which say that you have been north Sudan..Nuba land? Where is yiour eveidence which excludes the theories which that the Nilotic tribes is MYTH? Even if it is a myth , it is there and by confessing that it is a myth, you don’t need eveidence ..

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                        • 29 March 2012 02:10, by mohammed ali

                          ..from me!It is just funny , we who still speak the Nubian language, Nubian tradations existing for thousand of years, even Nubian names, don’t belong to Nubia Land, and you who share nothing with Nubian, belong to this land!Show Mr. not ignorant any eveidence against our Nubian heritage! Tell me what is meaning of Nugud, Sati or Seti, names which we still carry with us!...con

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                          • 29 March 2012 02:17, by mohammed ali

                            Yet, though we are Nubians and all of the central Sudan and west Sudan is historical Nuba land, I don’t care about ethinicity or race!It is a real myth for me! I don’t care from where you come from.We are here now and nobody can move us a single centimeter from our land! My answer to those ignorant brainwashed like you is proporationate to what they say. If you say this notour land....con

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                            • 29 March 2012 02:23, by mohammed ali

                              ..If you say Nuba land is not our land , with all the archeological evidence which support that; then what consider as myth is acceptable to me untill you give me a single archeological eveidence which support your presence in north or even SS. To me , the importantant thing is that we are all now here , each in his respective country, we have to learn how to live together as neighbours without..c

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                              • 29 March 2012 02:29, by mohammed ali

                                ..hatred, anger,war or blood shed.All problems could be solved peacfully. Your definition of occupation , which you are hallucinating is not right and not acceptable to anyone.You are just a brain-washed angery man who dreams only of war and " the most sophisticated weapons" to buy!You have to tame war-mongering behavior as thepple in SS, in particular don’t need or want your megalomania!

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                                • 29 March 2012 02:35, by mohammed ali

                                  ...They need & want PEACE, you like it or not. They don’t care about your borders or borders! These was all created by brain-washed hate and war-mongers like you. 6 millions along the borders were living for centuries together in peace, they fight today & reconcile tomorrow, without hatred, untill you came " the intelligent one " and spoiled their life. Even in SS who is behind the tribal wars?

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                                  • 29 March 2012 02:43, by mohammed ali

                                    .. They are the fat "inelligent ones" with empty skulls and washed brains, if there is any!Who is doing the looooting of the BILLIONS , it is the same hate & war mongers like you!The last thing which you can offer them, now is war & hatred . Your blind hatred is setting SS on fire right now.We don’t war, we want PEACE. It is easy, attainable & fruitful. I don’t care about your borders,...con

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                                    • 29 March 2012 02:51, by mohammed ali

                                      ..scrab them now & let the people live in peace.Your friends in the SPLA can continue enjoying the loooting, dressing Armani suits,travelling first class,
                                      driving 8 cylinders cars.Unfortunately they wont need your $ 500,000 "ONLY!"type of weapons;they will use that"very little"for food,it will be enough for"ONLY"one year!You will have to find a wind mill to fight with,hopefully it will quench hat

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                                      • 29 March 2012 07:00, by Rommel

                                        Mohammed Ali:

                                        Learn to read, carefully.

                                        I am afraid that you have gone off on an impertinent, long-winded tangent. I have not stated -I have not even implied- in any of my posts that Nilotics have ever been part of Kush, nor have I laid claim to your ancient heritage in any way! You have significantly disfigured my words and the accompanying message through a lack of reading comprehension!

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                                        • 29 March 2012 07:40, by Rommel

                                          Stop using straw man arguments.

                                          People who use straw man arguments ignore what was said, make stuff up, and argue that instead.

                                          Where have I stated that "Nuba land" isn’t your land!? I have not claimed anything that does not belong to South Sudan. All the territories that I have listed belong to South Sudan and were annexed to North Sudan immediately following independence.

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                                          • 29 March 2012 10:04, by Rommel

                                            I have even provided government gazettes relating to changes in the provincial border > the annexation of areas like the Kafia Kingi enclaves and Hofrat en Nahas, in Western Bahr en Ghazl. These areas have NEVER been under the occupation of *Nubian* tribes! The Kafia Kingi enclave is the homeland of the Fertit people.

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                                            • 29 March 2012 10:27, by Rommel

                                              You are an odd man, in that you see no problem with expropriating the homelands of others and seem genuinely surprised when anger and "hatred" results. You have laughably attempted to characterize opposition to territorial larceny as some kind of pathology - the trappings of megalomania. There is nothing wrong with wanting to reclaim your homelands... through war if necessary.

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                                              • 29 March 2012 10:55, by Rommel

                                                It is the morally vacant that would subserviently accede the homelands of their forefathers for the sake of a dishonourable peace; a peace that deprives their children of their inheritance. You patronizingly speak in great length of how the people of South Sudan want peace and not war, which is undoubtedly true, however, peace and occupation are mutually exclusive.

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                                                • 29 March 2012 11:17, by Rommel

                                                  You contemptuously evoke the well-being of a people whose lands are currently under occupation by your Jihadist government; people who had their hopes elevated by the *final & binding* PCA ruling that was initially accepted by Khartoum in a frisson of celebratory triumphalism, only to have this hope cruelly dashed in the subsequent rejection.

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                                                  • 29 March 2012 11:32, by Rommel

                                                    You live in a twilight zone in which the people of South Sudan exclude the people of Northern Bahr el Ghazal, Abyei, Kafia Kingi, Hofrat en Nahas, the Megenis mountains, Kaka, Chali, Gulli, the unity triangle, Karasana and the northernmost lands of Renk. The people of these lands want peace, but not at the price of their homelands!

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                                                    • 29 March 2012 16:32, by mohammed ali

                                                      Rommel, put every thing on the negotiating table! Do you want to put Heglig as well!Noneed for war & beligrency. The pple of these land don’t care about my or your borders, Basheer, Salva, NCP, SPLA the care about peace at whatever cost! They don’t even understand what are fighting for and they dont care, we only polarise them! A dinka man , who was fighting with Garang and was advisor to...

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                                                      • 29 March 2012 16:57, by mohammed ali

                                                        ..Salva in Khartoum. IN his home Gabr " Khartoum" , he told me they came across some pple in South East Sudan who had probably came in contact with other pple. The all went into the bush when they saw Garangs army. Their cheif came out and Garang explained to him why he was fighting for. The " illiterate, ignorant man" man told , no we don’t war, why for? see the land is so big, you can take,...

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                                                        • 29 March 2012 17:08, by mohammed ali

                                                          ..if you want, it can accomodate al of us! Look at the wisdom of this old man..the illiterate uneducated. No need for war , negotiate and if we live in good faith , your good will ours and ours will yours, pple travel travel thousands of miles away from their homes to have better life. The pple on the borders, in whose name we are fighting , have this same feeling!You have your country, flag,...

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                                                          • 29 March 2012 17:20, by mohammed ali

                                                            ..president, national ensmble...could you tell me did the life of the pple got better or worst. Sudan was quite big and could have accomodated us all, still even divided it can , but only in peace which is easy and achieveable! War is a disgrace. It is not the agenda of thepple, it the agenda of those who brain-washed you and still fond of them & their weapons, which you will never get!

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                                        • 29 March 2012 16:25, by mohammed ali

                                          Rommel, you better learn to read and understand! The whole argument started when somebody said he is going to kick us to Saudi Arabia. Regarding Kush , you even wanted to name SS as Kuch! Garang was supporting that claim.Some of you are even naming themselves as Cush-land! My response, was to that person and then you intervened defending him. Go & read very carefully!

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                                          • 29 March 2012 18:11, by Rommel

                                            Mohammed Ali:

                                            You have got to STOP going off on tangents. You have attempted to the distort the dynamics between the tribes on the border, and have laughably tried to depict them as people incogzinant of their respective interests and to the extent that they are conspicuously invested into the process and outcome of the border demarcation.

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                                            • 29 March 2012 18:18, by Rommel

                                              The Misseriya have been enroaching on Ngok lands for decades with the tacit approval and support of successive Northern governments. The Baggara tribes constituted the murahaleen that devasted the Dinka communities in Northern Bahr el Ghazal, Warrap and Unity State in the late 1980s. The documented history between the Baggara tribes and the Dinka belies your absurd assertions on the mattter.

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          • 28 March 2012 16:25, by guer(r)illa’s graduate

            Mr. Ali,
            You’re trying hard to appear informed in your comments; however, you haven’t scratched the information’s surface. All these times arabs or the government in Khartoum needs war to loot our oil, and you’re trying to blame the Juba for starting war. If SPLA army is militia, how did or could they start the war? Think about it sensibly.

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            • 28 March 2012 18:06, by mohammed ali

              Guer,I don’t to think about it! Your own President said clearly that he " recovered" Heglig! Note " recovered" , then the SPLA said it will not withdraw unless Heglig is included in the negotiation of the demarcation despite the ruling of the Hague!That was something " planed" though it was very badly planed!First they did not occupy it and they can not!2nd the timing is very stupid, ...con

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              • 28 March 2012 18:23, by mohammed ali

                .while the government of Sudan is prepared for peace the SPLA took his futile adventure!The presence of SK,BN & Darfur rebells is something that the SPLA can neither hide or deny.That z SPLA is a millitia is eveident when you see the convoies escorting your VP & President,are exclusively from the clan of their own tribe.During tribal wars SPLA officers join their own tribe & donnot remain neutral

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                • 28 March 2012 21:08, by guer(r)illa’s graduate

                  Mr. Ali,
                  I can go about this debate with you point by point; however, I don’t want to waste time with you because I see you uninformed, still. Your point, militia- SPLA- being one, is baseless because this army has fought with iraqis as mujahadists in your army but they didn’t conquered SPLA! The most wanted and now dead terrorist encouraged your army to fight SPLA in name of Allah but your army didn’t conquered SPLA!

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                  • 28 March 2012 21:25, by guer(r)illa’s graduate

                    ... Continuation...
                    Ali, you can’t gathered concrete information, shame on you! What a waste! Ali, you made claims without evidences, this -assumption- represents stupidity of the highest order. What are the evidences that SPLA’s soldiers joined their respective tribes to fight the tribal’s wars? Whatever journalist that gave it to you; the statement remains an opinion! Opinions are not facts and they can be subjected to facts check and eventually change. man’ act a a learned person

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          • 28 March 2012 17:40, by Umoja

            Mohammed Ali,

            Your government in Sudan is becoming like a crazy dog, throwing blames in every corner. Blames will never solve your problems.

            Umoja

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          • 28 March 2012 18:36, by Joseph Canada

            Mohamed, South Sudan is not Middle East to be compared. South Sudan didn’t and don’t want the war. Your Bombing of South Sudan Shows the arrogance and luck of peace within the Islamic mind.
            This only shows to the world how desperate you are to want to be Southerners.
            LEAVE US ALONE. WE DON’T WANT YOU. WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU AND YOUR UPSIDE DOWN WORSHIP. TO HELL WITH YOU ARABS. GOD!!!!

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          • 28 March 2012 19:20, by Rommel

            Mohammed Ali:

            You are hallucinating yet again, Mohammed. The Israelis seemed wholly ignorant of your super power status when they subjected you to bombardment in port Sudan last year.

            "Israeli troops roamed freely in Sudan":

            http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4166771,00.html

            Maybe they didn’t get a memo regarding your unassailable power!

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            • 28 March 2012 19:35, by Rommel

              You are perhaps the only people on earth to speak endlessly of your apparent desire for peace while concurrently occupying close to a dozen territories of a Sovereign State.

              Areas under occupation include:

              Abyei, Kafia Kingi, Hofrat en Nahas, the Megenis mountains, Kaka, Chali, Gulli, the unity triangle, Karasana and the northernmost lands of Renk.

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            • 29 March 2012 01:56, by mohammed ali

              Rommel, why you always talk about Israel, why don’t you talk about yourself! Israel is much more powerful than us, but you are not! Still we don’t war with! War is not going to solve any problem between Sudan & SS.It may quench your hatred and satisfy your anger , but it doesn’t help the pple on the ground N or S. You are just an angry man who want take take revenge from a presumed enemy!

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              • 29 March 2012 12:20, by Rommel

                Mohammed Ali:

                I evoked Israel because it is Israel that will provide (sell) South Sudan with some of the platforms needed to at first to bridge the conventional military gap between our respective armed forces and second to greately supersede the capabilities of your armed forces to the point that your air force will not be able to operate in any way, shape or form.

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                • 29 March 2012 16:40, by mohammed ali

                  Rommel, no you will not going to get what you are dreaming of!Even if you get you lack the personnel to use conventional weapons. You don’t have an army yet , to covience any state to give you weapons which might fall in the hands of the enemy.You evoked Israel because of your hatred towards us.Have an army first, then think of arming it!

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                  • 29 March 2012 16:49, by mohammed ali

                    Rommel, how are you going to pay for your dream weapons if a full fledged war started and we bombe your oil fields? Who will trust you to pay back with such a huge " country risk" .Think carefully , before you dreem.Peace is certainly good for us all, and stop deliring about war & weapons!

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                    • 29 March 2012 17:08, by Rommel

                      Mohammed Ali:

                      You really are delusional. Your air force uses mortar rounds in lieu of precision guided bombs and missiles in aerial bombardment. You also lack targeting pods of any worth; targeting pods are absolutely essential in ground operations; targeting pods allow an air force to devastate enemy ground forces. Temper your arrogance, Mohammed.

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                      • 29 March 2012 17:11, by mohammed ali

                        Rommel, idon’t what is mortr round or what ever you call call it, it is gebrrish to me. Pride yourself that, enjoy it. For me it is disgusting, they all kill! and what a pleaure!

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                      • 29 March 2012 17:25, by Rommel

                        I have reiterated to you that war would not be embarked on immediately. It would be executed only when the armed forces have been completely reconfigured over a period of 5 years or more. The purchase of an air defence system like the S-300PMU2 Favorit for 500 million dollars would be the first order of business.

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      • 28 March 2012 13:55, by backtoschool

        Note that we are fought again for juba, you can not save two master Blue Nile, Nuba and Drafur plus South Sudan and other opposition with in Khartoum, those weapon will go back to Khartoum.

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        • 28 March 2012 14:56, by mohammed ali

          Backtoschool, You really need to go back to school!

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      • 28 March 2012 20:29, by Born-to-Rule

        Mohammed, read all your comments, however, you are missing the point. "Sudan says no desire for full fledged war with south despite military escalation" That’s 100% lie. The problem with you or Islamic fanatics is they are "indoctrinated from child hood" --- like one way street in Arabs ways of thinking. You know for a fact Bashir has killed millions of people in Sudan. Your Koran says lie!.

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    • 28 March 2012 16:25, by Morthon Akol

      comrade Daniel, up to now we really don’t who start agression it’s it Khartoum or Juba? because there is no point for Bashir to do so. I gest that there were same people aganst the peace among us.

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  • 28 March 2012 11:26, by Daniel Buolmawei

    Country bombs civilians of another country in their own country on daily basis like Sudan does to South Sudan. How do we define an aggression rather than airplanes of another country crossing the borders and bomb people of another country? This is an invsion. It is not anymore an aggression but an invasion and wise people around the world have to understand it despite trade accusations.

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    • 28 March 2012 15:06, by mohammed ali

      Daniel, nobody want war. We donnt want!The message is very clear, if you attack our oil fields, we will attack yours. No civilians had been bombed. Your president claimed that he attacked and " recovered" Higlig " was he sober that time?"he couldn’t and Higlig is still pumping oil.No plain crossed the border Jau is 100% Sudanese you are trying to " recover" it, as you tried in vain in Higlig...co

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      • 28 March 2012 15:19, by mohammed ali

        ..Nobody has a problem with the pple of SS .The problem is with SPLA thugs & thiefs. They simply want to use war as a cover up for their robbery and failure in the managment of their country.Men are killed, women are raped, children are enslaved on daily basis & land is graped in broad day light. The 13 SPLA thiefs could use nothing except war as a cover for their crime.

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        • 28 March 2012 17:47, by Mach

          Ali, you need to define the definition of the word robbery before you use it in a sentence, you’re misusing the term robbery. SPLA/M is not in Khartoum robbing anything, they are here in South Sudan earning their dues/belonging that they fought and bleed for. Be a spokesperson for NCP not SPLA/M.

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  • 28 March 2012 11:29, by Chok Deng

    Mohammed Atta confirmed the captured of Heglig,although he contradicted himself,but my message to the gov’t of RSS is that don’t accept that voice which says we are not for war.They are reall for war,they are misleading u,be ready for war,they r now mobilizing stupid jihadists to fight South Sudan.Keys of hell are ready for them.SPLA OYEEEE.

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  • 28 March 2012 11:29, by wad balad

    "We think that the weight of responsibility rests with Khartoum because the use of heavy weaponry, bombing runs by planes and the like, are certainly evidence of disproportionate force on the part of the government in Khartoum," she said."

    Coming from a country that lit bagdad skyline for days on TV looool.
    There are no responsibilities once the trigger is pulled.

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  • 28 March 2012 11:32, by Lang

    It’s funny and amazing how devoted the Chinese government is to this non-interference policy while Sudan is now trying to destroy Chinese owned companies.

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  • 28 March 2012 14:24, by Mapuor

    Its high time to use reasoning in order to reach consensus on many outstanding issues.Higlig is called Panthou in Dinka,local population was chased away by armed Missyeria during Anya Nya two rebellion.Numeri used those militias to drive out the local people in order to claim it as part of ’Shumaal Sudan’North Sudan

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    • 28 March 2012 14:33, by Mapuor

      Bashir should stop the use of disproportunate force against the South as this might triger global action against his tyrannical regime.

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      • 28 March 2012 15:32, by never

        how can spla solders depend themselves from plane bombardment? that is a very difficult task for them to deal with it, why? because soldiers need a right weapons for the jobs.
        official need to use money on military equipment but not on their families.

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  • 28 March 2012 18:53, by emad

    It was expected that the US would blame as ever the north and turning a blind eye to what the illiterate slava kiir said . look southerners this stupid president is going to take your failed state toward further backward unless you overthrow his government and instate Dr:lam achole as president.

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    • 28 March 2012 20:29, by zulu

      Emad, today, south Sudan has many educated people who will not follow any taunting or suggestive language. We whole heartedly back our leaders and of course we are not cajoled easily any more. So, beat your war drums and we will host you go dance the tuine yet again.

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  • 28 March 2012 20:20, by zulu

    Attah’s irresponsible perjury holds the entire Sudan’s rouge regime accountable for loss or damage to South Sudan’s property or person. Time and again, the thugs of Khartoum are bracing for war while saying the opposite of their actions. The international community will certainly hold them for their actions as words mean thing. The people of South Sudan do not trust these thugs even a bit.

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  • 28 March 2012 20:43, by James Maker Akok

    This is a problem, how somebody come to bomb you and you don’t do anything to him?

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    • 29 March 2012 00:07, by Born-to-Rule

      James Maker Akok,

      Good question, however, south Sudan is less than 10 months old. Do you know how long it will take to build an Army?. If you plan a war, you do it right and make sure you win the fight. For your information, the entire middle east is behind north Sudan in the way of hardware. Bashir is the world most wanted criminal dead or alive — he must hang.

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      • 29 March 2012 01:23, by Mou

        A cow that has no tail should not attempt to chase a fly. South Sudan must have warplane before rushing to Iglige. Better South Sudan to continue to cry when Arab momb oilfield if they cannot afford ani-warplane.

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  • 29 March 2012 03:01, by Kim Deng

    Folks,

    If a country is run by coward leader, don’t expect victory, but defeat. That part of the world is belong to South Sudan, but Mr. coward cowboy Slava has no guts to order the South Sudan’s army to bring that land back to the mainland.

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    • 29 March 2012 05:57, by Born-to-Rule

      Deng/Mou,

      With all due respect to you 2 your comments makes no-senses. Have any of you been to a boot camp on how to fight a war, if yes how do you 2 plan to go to war. What’s your strategy to defeat Khartoum government.In-case you 2 don’t know south Sudan lost 2.5 millions of it’s citizen in over 20+ years of war.You want war support your government. Cools head prevails.

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