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March 23, 2012 (JUBA) – South Sudan army has reported clashes with some armed youth of Lou-Nuer in Jonglei state resisting a disarmament process the government launched after a series of retaliatory attacks in December.

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Vice President, Riek Machar, tells Lou-Nuer youth to withdraw from Linkwangale, Dec. 28, 2011 (ST)

This follows a similar clash with a group of Murle youth who also resisted to disarm in Pibor county last week and shot at the army, killing one instantly, and disappeared into the bushes.

The head of the forces that carried out the disarmament, Lt. Gen. Kuol Deim Kuol, told the press on Thursday that the army clashed with a group of Lou-Nuer armed youth, sometimes called the White Army, in Uror county in the state.

Kuol further said a self-proclaimed spiritual leader in the area resisted the disarmament exercise resulting to the clashes. He said four people were killed from the youth side while four others were wounded from the army, adding that the army will pursue the youth to disarm.

This week the Vice President, Riek Machar, toured Akobo and Uror counties and urged the communities to disarm peacefully. However, chiefs accepted the disarmament but asked the government to make sure the Murle are equally disarmed. They claimed that the Murle are hiding in bushes with their weapons to avoid the disarmament and that the soldiers do not know how to find them.

Murle leaders denied rejecting the disarmament but also wanted to make sure the Lou-Nuer and the Dinka Bor are disarmed. They also claimed that the Lou-Nuer armed youth have moved to either Jikany-Nuer areas or Ethiopian borders to avoid the disarmament. They also said the Dinka Bor have moved to Nimule in Eastern Equatoria with their guns avoiding the exercise in Bor areas.

In response to the clashes with the South Sudan army in Uror county, a press release purportedly circulated by the Lou-Nuer armed youth in the internet accused Bor and Juba of conspiring to fight with the Lou-Nuer and Murle using the pretext of disarmament as a way to harm the two communities.

They claimed that heavy clashes in Uror county occurred three days ago when 1,200 SPLA soldiers were deployed to attack the youth center where the self-proclaimed spiritual leader was staying. The youth got information ahead and laid ambush to the army leaving 420 SPLA soldiers killed, 543 weapons captured including two military trucks, according to the release widely circulated in the internet fora.

The press release said only seven members of the youth were killed and 24 wounded. They warned that their group of 13,000 heavily armed in the state will forge an alliance with the Mule armed youth and rebels in Unity state to capture Bor town and remove governor Kuol Manyang, who they accused of plotting against the two communities.

However, Kuol downplayed the threat, saying only the spiritual leader with some youth are the only ones resisting to disarm.

UN and members of the international community have expressed concern that the disarmament may turn violent in the process unless carried out voluntarily and peacefully.

Kuol said 9,000 guns have already been collected so far while the exercise targets 20,000 weapons.

(ST)

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  • 23 March 2012 06:40, by Zimmerman Zaal

    Who doesn’t know that Lou Nuer are the root causes of all evil and betrayal in Southsudan. Shame! shame! to them nyagats!!!

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    • 23 March 2012 06:51, by OTOOLITMODDO

      Lou youth

      Bravo jonkozíìn. Fuck the SPLA Salvakiirian gangs.

      Congratulations! To jonkozíìn from Ngaangoltiin.

      Murle Intellectual is a freedom fighter living in Pibor, Republic of South Sudan

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      • 23 March 2012 07:03, by OTOOLITMODDO

        Bravo Murle youth for resisting fake disarmament. Why do they allow Bor dinkajonkozìín to move in the bush freely with all kinds of heavy weapons. They only target Murle youth and Nuer youth. Bor must be captured tomorrow

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        • 23 March 2012 07:39, by Sunday_2012.

          Haaaa Haaaa Haaaa Haaaa,zat is the ward of mouth capturing of Bor is not like eating food or drinking beer.u ur self have not ever fight one day if Arab fail to capture Bor who will manage to defend them.in story of South Sudan no body known what they so call murle,parasist ppple who don’t how to cultivate since the begining it was first time for murle to get food for diplace by Nuer lou to Pibor.

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        • 23 March 2012 08:52, by Ruach

          Jebe!We are not going to collaborate with any Murle.Fight with SPLA.We still will fight u.If SPLA want to fight us, and fails to take only guns in our hands we will fight them.We are not coward if SPLA will fail to identify their own missions.Death to them

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          • 23 March 2012 09:07, by OTOOLITMODDO

            Jonkozïn,

            It is better we unite now to defeat our common enemy SPLA dinka gangs. Together we can destroy them, then we will have a win-win situation and we can remain with our weapons both Murle and Nuer youths, just for self-defense

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            • 23 March 2012 12:44, by Wen Ahon

              Who do u think u are, if SPLA can overcome the common enemy SAF and 1991 revolutionaries. you will only be told to die than you die. " STOP PREACHING KILLING ONE ANOTHER ". Are you "CERBERUS"

              Anyway, either you dies or South Sudan Army dies, still Junubian will loss her people.

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            • 23 March 2012 18:34, by panom lualbil

              One worst thing in human’s life is when you were born without CONSCIENCE. In fact, from point of view by friend of mine saying we better unite to ’’defeat our common enemy SPLA DINKA GANGS to remain with our weapons for selvedefend from who? This guy was sometimes seemed as being educated but this education can’t help his community but to death. The way this guy acts, I can tell he was abduted

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              • 23 March 2012 19:19, by OTOOLITMODDO

                Mr.Panom

                I was not abducted by anyone, and I am not a jonkozïn. I am a proud pure Murle freedom fiphter. Protection from jonkozïïn gangs. Good luck to you

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              • 23 March 2012 19:47, by panom lualbil

                by birth and raised poorly as abastard victim. So due to that poor caretaken, he wants to spoile the public.He’s one of folks who term up SPLA as dinka to propagate tribalism but it’s a tool for liberation we all live in nowaday after secesion as reult of cpa-2005. But during spla struggle, it was a choice but a must for dinka, nuer etc youth to take arm against jalabs. And this parasite was

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                • 23 March 2012 20:15, by OTOOLITMODDO

                  I can see you are a typical jonkozïïn bastard Panom lavaric

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                • 23 March 2012 20:28, by panom lualbil

                  talking about destroying spla wat a wonderful it’s. Go ahead fool but I urge you better hand your gun b4. Spla has few from every community but my point is that don’t hide gun and used it for stealing animals from others stupid
                  ass. Without spla, you would have been chased to ethiopia by white army. Called urself freedom fighters for food but not country like spla. Shame on you sucker.

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                  • 24 March 2012 01:49, by OTOOLITMODDO

                    panom lualbil,

                    You sucker asshole shit. What is wrong with you? Jonkozïîn tried for centuries to chase away Murle but you always fail, leaving your dead behind your fleeing thugs in thousands. Fuck you little wretch

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          • 23 March 2012 12:11, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

            The SPLA army is compose of everyone bro so anyone who think that the Lou youth is fight with Dinka is foolish and God will never forgave him/her in any case,
            The article was written by rebel but not Lou youth to what I know from the office of foreign ministries, they youth are protesting about Murle being in the bush hiding their guns while others are been disarmed by the government,
            Rebel can

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            • 23 March 2012 12:13, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

              fabricate any lies but they will not win any war against the Gov.
              Nuer are great ppl, they cannot be stupid to fight their children or brothers and take a side with gonorrhoea affected tribe who doesn’t bear their own children, there are no any tribes that are friend with Murle in south Sudan due to their uncivilised attitudes of terrorist act,,
              One things I want to tell my brother from Nuer who

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              • 23 March 2012 12:16, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

                comment here is that don’t support what will affect your reputation people you have great leaders but not Riek Machar, even some of you who comment here can make a great future leader without doubt in the country, stay away from Riek Machar because you don’t know how much the army hate him so bad,

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                • 23 March 2012 12:37, by Loko El Pollo

                  THIS NEWS WAS PROBABLY PASTED BY THAT EUROPEAN SCUMBAG WHO GO BY THE NAME OF TOBI KEITH.THE FIGURES ARE INFLATED,THE SAME PROPAGANDA STYLE THAT WAS USED BY ATHOR REBELS.SOUTH SUDAN NEWS AGENCY IS A FAILED WEBSITE WHICH WAS LAUNCHED BY LATE MAJOR DUOTH WITH SOME OTHER GUYS TO PROPAGATE THEIR IDEAS TO PEOPLE WHO HATES SPLM IN ORDER TO GAIN SUPPORT FROM THE PUBLIC DOMAINS.

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              • 23 March 2012 18:20, by Ajama

                Riak Machar is just a half human being, because he was brought up in a place whereby there is no respect for older people ,and people behave like chicken, Nuer and Murle are bad of the same feathers they flock together.fuck them all.

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                • 23 March 2012 18:26, by Ajama

                  Riak Machar is just a half human being because he was brought up in a place whereby there’s no respect for older people. Murle and Lou or Nuer in general are birds of the same feathers flock together, fuck them all hell with them, we will get ride of you in South Sudan, disturbing people all night and day

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        • 23 March 2012 12:47, by Loko El Pollo

          MOST RESIDENTS OF BORTOWN ARE HAPPY BEING IN BOR,THEY CITY IS THE MOST PEACEFUL PLACE IN THE SOUTH FOLLOW BY YAMBIO.THE 29 THOUSANDS INHABITANTS ARE NOT BORIANS.THEY HAIL FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTRY,THEIR IS PEACE AND VIBRANT CULTURAL ACTIVITIES THAT KEEP PEOPLE ENGAGED.THEY WILL BE WILLING TO LAY DOWN THEIR LIVES IN DEFEND OF THEIR FREEDOM.YOU CAN WALK FOR TWENTY FOUR HOURS IN BORTOWN AT

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          • 23 March 2012 12:50, by Loko El Pollo

            PITCH BLACK NIGHT WITHOUT BEING ROB OR MURDERED.THAT TELL ALOT ABOUT BOR PEOPLE LOVE OF HUMAN LIFE.

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        • 23 March 2012 18:11, by Ajama

          I wonder if Nuer and Dinka follow Murle stupid behaviours where could they get medical facilities? They ’re fucken distroyed by some dieases such as syphilis and the rests of sexual transimitted diseases( STD ). Murle / Bher will not exist in some few years, no one will finish them but STD diseases, so let them hide in the bush but they will surrender every things they had to Dinka.

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      • 23 March 2012 18:58, by Anynya One

        Monkeys always don’t understand. What I would love to advice you idiot nasty tribes, please fight in JungoLe, have fun with your guns, don’t attempt to spread, immigrate, steal and/or just escape down to Equatorians and try to kill. YOU! all of you will be Losers. Have fun with your fights.. illiterates!

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      • 24 March 2012 02:43, by Darkangel
    • 23 March 2012 07:17, by omoni jr.

      Walk like dog,eat like dog,quak like dog,talk like dog,fart like dog,and is exactly Doggggg.
      Nuer,Dinka,and murle are all dogs,let them go to hell.just killed your fucking selves.

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      • 23 March 2012 07:53, by Sunday_2012.

        who is a dog he who is having home and some living in the forsty. he who is eating muud or animals blood who is the dog on zat line. u first know ur tradition before u talk but i can’t belame u zat is for the first time for murle to experient website. u are learning still ur insult are look childishly.and i know u have loggerheand.Dinka and Nuer bring for a Nation in golden fate u better go to sch

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        • 23 March 2012 17:01, by Joseph Canada

          Man! who taught you to read ad write in English. My God if I were your etcher I will commit sucide!! Shame on that teacher who release you out of the class and got paid for your bad English.

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          • 23 March 2012 17:08, by Joseph Canada

            read AND write in English? My God if I were your TEACHER I will commit sucide!! Shame on that teacher who release you out of the class and got paid for your Bad English.

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      • 23 March 2012 09:35, by viper

        Lou Nuer youth were suppose to respect the VP. Why should they resist the National army? If they continue their resistance, they will later regret because the national army is stronger than them

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    • 23 March 2012 07:42, by michael Nhomlau

      I disagreed with you my brother, it is not Lou Nuer in general who are they root causes, it is Riek himself who bring all these confussion. I think he said something in his language against Dinka Bor,when he visited Uror,as you might have read a press release by Lou Nuer in the internet, saying that, Bor are the one created conflict between Murle and Lou Nuer. Shameless man (Riek) Greater Nyagat

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    • 23 March 2012 07:46, by Nimber

      Lou have right to fights the SPLA coz they(SPLA) don’t go for disarmmament but go to capture lou Father(gok).
      If not let them(SPLA) do the disarmmament rather than looking to lou father(Gok).

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    • 23 March 2012 07:53, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

      Cruelty is contagious in uncivilized nuer communities.

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      • 23 March 2012 09:50, by Diu J.Kuek

        Dinka Dominated SPLA?M(Mangoor)
        Please be intellectual to show mental capacity to the high degree and you should have an advance in human culture.
        By the way I am sorry to use such a language in that manner.

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    • 23 March 2012 10:34, by bior angeth

      I doubt this kind of report. I do not think Lou Nuer will believe Bor people are working against them. For what reason should Bor plan bad thing against Lou Nuer? I feel bad when I see evil people do not like peace among our communities. Those wicked people are not happy about disarment. They want our communities to finish themselves, but God will not allow that.

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    • 23 March 2012 14:13, by Chok Deng

      To Jonglei state tribes.
      You learn plse,how to live in peace among yourselves,think twice over this issue.Whom do you expected to come and solve your complicated problems,you are leading Southerners down.

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    • 23 March 2012 17:07, by Son of Upper Nile

      By Jacob Achiek Jok
      BOR, 23rd March 2012 [Gurtong]

      The State Members of Parliament (MPs) together with the help of the vice president Dr. Riek Machar Teny have moved to their respective Counties to convince their constituents for a peaceful disarmament.

      The disarmament kicked off peacefully with the help of politicians unlike in Uror County where 4 people got killed as a result of obeying a magi

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    • 24 March 2012 16:08, by siddaw

      who cares about Nuer-Lou?

      Our fundamental concern is to ensure that there are no guns anymore. SPLA should not give up. South can continue without Nuer.

      period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • 24 March 2012 16:15, by siddaw

      My godness!!!!!!! i can’t believe what i am seeing in the above picture attached.
      so these people have pastors and they don’t elaborate the demerits of fighting to them????????
      i thank God that the situation will change after this disarmament...............

      By Hon. Siddaw (Man from Dinka. the pillar tribe of South Sudan)

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  • 23 March 2012 06:48, by George Bol

    Lou Nuer, you will always the loser. You will always die for no cause. The smart leader like William Nyuon Bany was the only one who i know from this community,but the rest are militia. How come you attempt to commit suicide? SPLA will get you from Ethiopia or Gajaak areas. You guys/lou Nuer will go one by one for being stupid.

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    • 23 March 2012 09:32, by Big Boy

      Yes Geogre
      You are right hundred percent you are right, the Nuer are always feeding their children prox money from khartoum, they will loose their numbers in south soon no later!! so stop cunning the spla.

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      • 23 March 2012 17:32, by Dut Monybor

        Please My bro from Lou-Nuer youth could you please leave national army to do their tasks .you have to accept the disarmament and surrender your gun to the SPLA arm.

        For South Sudan government ,why are you always send Dr Riek for terrible issues? what vital mission is!In most case you are not suppose to send him there .i think we are all south Sudanese and Dr Machar is not vice president of Lou .

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    • 23 March 2012 14:53, by Otong

      I can direct to Mr. Goerge Bol who have a very little knowledge,please know a you are heading to nothing if your aims is insult Lou Nuer all the times.
      I know you are wrong some where and you will not benefits any thing from it dear.

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  • 23 March 2012 06:55, by belle loboi

    Lou-Nuer have a right to refuse disarmament because they need to protect themselves from Murle who are hiding their guns in the bushes. Everyone need to understand that Lou-Nuer have their homes while Murle are just are there for destruction and stealing other people property.

    No No No disarmament in Ngundeng land.

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    • 23 March 2012 07:16, by Akobo River

      I wounder what self protection Lou Nuer youth are talking about, they have thier guns since 70s and yet they are being killed, raided and abducted day and night. Why didn’t they protect themselves by then. Also they have been killing, raiding and abducting their nieghbours fo so long, why should they complain then.SPLA is for there to protect everybody if everybody is disarmed. Thats logic.

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      • 23 March 2012 07:23, by Akobo River

        You Lou Nuer youth should admit that you failed to protect your citizens, therefore let law protect you. If you resist to surrender its up to you. No one will backup you. If you depend on the funds that is now being raised by Lou Nuer in Canada, Australia, USA and other parts of Africa. We are monitoring them closely and some of them will locked soon for supporting terrorism. So better surrender o

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    • 24 March 2012 18:30, by Dut Monybor

      We know that murle have been attach you people recently but don’t compete with Murle gruop.they don’t know any thing about development they have to be educated first.we need peace ,development ,in state .

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  • 23 March 2012 06:55, by George Bol

    Hi Guys,
    Can you see from the picture how stupid are they? even the old folks who can give advise are in the cattle raid!
    SPLA must be employed in the water points and the border areas because the criminal communities will no hand over their guns to SPLA. I feel pity for those empty people who just die for no caused.

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    • 23 March 2012 08:27, by Ruach

      George Bol.Maa ba liel muor ngom.Ci gaar ku cie ke gaar muoor.Biaa lac yen jaang.Why should SPLA attack Lou-Nuer?These youths have not refused to be disarmed,but those stupid soldiers instructed badly had simply attacked to complicate the case that Lou-Nuer youths have resisted the disarments.They are very stupid

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      • 23 March 2012 11:36, by malueth gueet dot N

        Please Stop using abusive lunguage in this forumYes! SPLA made a mistake. They should first disarm murle youth before disarming lou nuer and bor because murle r the main cause of problems in Jonglei state.Those monkeys (murle) will not stop attacking and abducting children if they are not the first to be disarmed Besides Riek is the one who confused the lou nuer to fight the SPLA.just for his political gains.SHAME on RIEK.

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      • 23 March 2012 12:32, by Billiu Puoch

        Dear Ruach

        In fact you have really hit the point and I seconded your comment that you have written in Nuer Language (Ney tin Naath).

        Lou Nuer are still canning those soldiers on the ground.Am now in Lou Nuer area and there is nothing like soldier at all.

        There is no protection to Lou Nuer while Murle are still ---linking with their leaders to supply them with guns.Shame on Kony and Yay-yaw.

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  • 23 March 2012 07:06, by panda

    Murle and Nuer lou youth take the example of Bor youth what is difference between both of you and Bor youth,they gave their guns peacefully why not you.So you want to says Bor youths are not hostiles to the government.I know Murle youths will never listen to their elders or local government but Nuer are little bit better than Murle,they never changed their life or behaviour.Nuer and Murle should

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    • 23 March 2012 07:15, by OTOOLITMODDO

      Bor jonkozïïn youth was never disarmed in the first place. The fake drama done in Bor town by killer Kuol Manyang Jonkozïín was to mislead the public. He alone owns 5000 different peaces of weapons in his public stores, the rest was carried away to Nimule by jonkoz bor to avoid disarmament. That was a secret plan from Kuol and Salva

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      • 23 March 2012 07:57, by michael Nhomlau

        Otooli, Bor youth knows better what is the government and what is law. You know Kuol very well, he is a good fighter, and if he was behind conflict in Jonglei, you would have seen. Murle would have left Jonglei, I tell you, but the good of it Kuol did not support this, he love his people, he is not tribalists, that is why he fought during the war without looking back like Nyagat Riek and others.

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        • 23 March 2012 08:11, by OTOOLITMODDO

          You just don’t know, Kuol Manyang is a big coward, the most corrupt, the most tribalist against, the dangerous killer bloodthirsty guy. He even wants to kill his own boss Salva Kiir. He killed and publicly executed many innocent Murle. To say that Kuol loves his people is totally misleading. What a shame, have seen his red eye when he do drugs MARIJUANA or ’bahnge’ BANGO. De zool mastool

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          • 23 March 2012 10:55, by michael Nhomlau

            Otooli, you called Kuol coward, you must be new in South Sudan. If Kuol was a coward, your republic of Pibor as you called it, would have not been liberated from Arab/chief Isameal Konyi. Murlei deserve death, if they are killed, then do not said Kuol killed anybody, just an animale, because they do not have different with wild animale, they live in the bush and eating funny things like animale.

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      • 23 March 2012 13:04, by Loko El Pollo

        WHY WORRY MONYBEER,YOU KNOW BORIS DON’T ATTACT FOR NOTHING.BOR ONLY ATTACK WHEN THE PAINS BECAME UNBEARABLE.OUR REVENGE IS ALWAYS SEVERE AND TACTICAL.

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      • 23 March 2012 20:42, by panom lualbil

        I’M FROM south sudan. And I FOUGHT hard against arabs for freedom. I love freedom of impunity in my COUNTRY. My comments here are about stupid ppl WHO like to upside down ouR country for their own interest like RIEK MACHAR collected all jonkoz animals WHILE JONKOZ youth seize juba.
        It’s so good to have sound and freedom in ur country but YOU MURLE caused trouble of cattleRUSTLING. WHY?

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  • 23 March 2012 07:08, by dinkdong

    Why would they be killing that many of the SPLA soldiers when they made Murle run their villages some weeks back. They would have just hide their weapons since that’s the only game played all over.

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  • 23 March 2012 07:15, by Akobo River

    I wounder what self protection Lou Nuer youth are talking about, they have thier guns since 70s and yet they are being killed, raided and abducted day and night. Why didn’t they protect themselves by then. Also they have been killing, raiding and abducting their nieghbours fo so long, why should they complain then.SPLA is for there to protect everybody if everybody is disarmed. Thats logic.

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  • 23 March 2012 07:15, by panda

    lou Nuer youths and Murle should respect National army this is for all of us to benefits for the peace and to Enjoy the of your fruit country.Gives your guns peaceful and you will see how good it is.

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  • 23 March 2012 07:17, by dinkdong

    Murles are trying to be smart. They are pointing at the Dinka and Nuer youth to be the one running away from disarmament. The truth is, they are the one staying in the bushes and they are even still doing raiding all over Bor counties and along the Bor-Juba road.

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  • 23 March 2012 07:31, by The Messiah

    I doubt the source. this is an individual opinion published as news. if there was any clash between a civilian youth and the army, the number shouldnt reach that high on the army side that have artileries and propelled weapons. its absurd and lack of judgement on the reporter’s part. please ignore it accordingly.

    These are words of The Messiah

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    • 23 March 2012 07:36, by George Bol

      Misiriah,
      4 lou Nuer youth killed and 4 spla wounded. Got it!

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      • 23 March 2012 07:43, by The Messiah

        George,
        dont keep on twisting the words you dung-bellied-duck. I don’t whether the Lou Nuer youth are killed or not. I’m only concerned about the numbers. If your brain failed you, dont think the others too since you’re wrongly brought up by a disfunctional family. water-brained-pigeon-heads like you dont reason well like the rest. thats why you jump from here and there looking hurt diff tribes.si

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        • 23 March 2012 07:44, by The Messiah

          * I dont care with the killing of the Youth.

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  • 23 March 2012 07:34, by Sami

    You Jaang play your gently role cos it will be your last chance for leadership and those who warned Lou shame on them forever we are the born of this nation therefore without our hard commitement nothing should be called South sudan at all remamber and understand.

    I don know this fucken kuol Deim is talking noncense of Lou daily, tit ro gatciek guar bi leany elong.

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    • 23 March 2012 07:40, by George Bol

      Sami,
      What role do you play? the role for nyagatism?
      When was you in SPLA peacefully? since 1975, you have the militia and clan army! You will get finished my dear for stupidity. When are you going to get away with this primitiveness in the south?

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      • 23 March 2012 07:52, by Nimber

        George Bol!!
        I don’t think that you are a normal in mind.
        Do you think RSS without Lou will be a nation??????????
        stop your nonsense

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    • 23 March 2012 07:45, by Akobo River

      The so called White Army, militias, Nyagats whose majority and leadership are Lou Nuer never in Sudan’s history to have supported Southerners or Junubeen or SPLA/M they were agents of Turabi, Sadig and now Bashir against SPLA. Some are now pretending to Support South Sudan after separation. You are known so better keep quiet and obey the rules of Law. Just surrender your arms & productive for ROSS

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      • 23 March 2012 08:43, by Ruach

        George Bol.Baa liel muor ngom e gaat Naath diaal.Biaa lac.Jin ci lac wic.E ngu wiee imo?E ngu laa kual yen yiou ji wec?Gat jiook!We 100% voted for separation of South Sudan from the north as it was what we were fighting for and instructed at our childhood stages when all movements failed.Our dream was very much successful.No matter how we are deny today,only heavenly God knows how we suffered!

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  • 23 March 2012 07:38, by wang

    Hanging there Lou, I am on my way to Jonglei State

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    • 23 March 2012 07:55, by Zimmerman Zaal

      Wang!!!!!!!!!

      Tell us the actual number of SPLA soldiers killed by Lou Nuer. The number couldn’t be so high 420 soldiers. That can’t be true.

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      • 23 March 2012 08:24, by wang

        Zimmerman Zaal
        I can’t tell you the exact numbers were killed from both sides. What I known so far is that the government was a one who attacked the civilians first as we all know. The fighting has been going on now for two days and the SPLA were left the Lou-Nuer areas to Fangak Counties. You should guess why they left the Lou areas

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    • 23 March 2012 08:00, by Nimber

      Wang!
      your way to jonglei will do nothing to lou.

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      • 23 March 2012 08:32, by wang

        Nimber
        I appreciate your concerns, but don’t forget one man can make huge different. Lou Needs us now.

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        • 23 March 2012 18:57, by Tiger

          Some people in this website are just adding up another fuel to keep the fire burning between the Lou Nuer,(Spla)National army and the Murle people,i wonder how South Sudan is going to become a stable Country with such thoughtness in people’s hearts.the hatred in South Sudan is so wide spread no one really care about unity except posting nonsenses in this website.shame on you people.

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        • 23 March 2012 19:10, by Tiger

          Lou Nuer and Murle should do the right thing by handing over their weapons to the spla,however doing that will stop the death to the civilians.i know it hurt many people’s feeling to hand over your main power because spla had failed in previous attack from Murle whom are the root cause conflict in Jonglei state,but please hand them over peacefully.Southerners knows your right.

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  • 23 March 2012 07:58, by J P Puok

    I said this early. Let the blood of those killed be on Dinka kinddom mafia. Lou shuold teach the Bor Dinka a lesson first and be disarm latter.
    To Gatdet, please this case is different from your normal activities, play your cards close to your chest otherwise you will be next in line !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • 23 March 2012 08:21, by Sunday_2012.

      if u have nothings to do u better go for drinking instead to poster ur nonsese on website.u have not even fought one day it is a ward of mouth.u such kind of pple who thinks for the bad things to open God will crush u with ur families upto the fouth 4 of ur generation. this is the time to upgrading the Nation up not the time to fight again.what will benefit u if nuer fought Dinka or Dinka to fough

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    • 23 March 2012 19:20, by Tiger

      J P Puok!
      That’s not the solving of issue my brother,Bor community and the Lou Nuer,are not into conflict to one another,so for you to support them by going back to war it’s nonsense.please be always smart to judge fairly,what is going on in jonglei is not something that was caused by Bor people nor was it caused by Lou Nuer people.

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  • 23 March 2012 08:11, by wang

    Lou-Nuer will be the winner of this game governor Kuol and Kiir are playing here at the end. And don’t think so the other fellows Nuer will let these Dinka criminal gangs so called SPLA killing Lou-Nuer against. Warning to Bor Dinka. This is a time you guys starting looking for safe places to evacuate your women and kids. We always inform our enemy before we take actions.

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    • 23 March 2012 08:27, by Sunday_2012.

      if u are not crayz than SPLA is not an oraganisation ya Dinka Bor but is the military wing for the Republic of South Sudan.if u are lacking some things in ur mind u better ask before u come up with ur nonesence.when are u going to learnt???????????????

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    • 23 March 2012 08:37, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

      There are nothings bigger than Dinkas in Sudan leave alone south Sudan so your threat is nothings to Dinkas either Bor or whole super power Dinka.
      Being a Dinka is not a crimes who never defeat Dinka should joint Dinkas, simple as that, and who resistant will be our bitch at the end of the game, just learn from gai Tut to Riek Machar than you will be free, it is so easy to start a war with Dinka

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      • 23 March 2012 08:41, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

        but it always finishing with Dinkas victory in which not only we killed our enemy but we make them surrendered,

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        • 23 March 2012 09:00, by Ruach

          Dinka Raped women/Mangoor.Your victory was seen recently when you were raping women in the name of disarments at Bor,that u could not attempt in Lou-Nuer areas.You will never win any wars.We are the one saying to stay peacefully.Fighting against Dinka is like fighting against women or boys!We will beat Dinka boys

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      • 23 March 2012 08:50, by wang

        We all know each other for very, very long-time before the whole Sudan became independent from whoever was colonized it. Lou-Nuer alone can wipe off the entirety Dinka populations. Forget about other Nuer clans. Nuer was never run from Jaang and it will never happens in our watch

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        • 23 March 2012 15:30, by Rommel

          Wang:

          I absolutely cannot stand a man without pride, however, a man operating under the delusions of such palpable hubris is the most contemptible being; because he’s not only a threat to others - he recklessly endangers his own life in the process. The horrors of the early 90’s had Nuer counties such as Uror, Akobo, Nyirol and Ayod being ravaged by the Dinka in retaliation.

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          • 23 March 2012 15:38, by Rommel

            The Lou Nuer were pushed out of Bor by the sons of the area and were even pursued into their own homelands with devastating consequences for their civilian populace... And that was just one of the twelve Dinka sections! You are welcome to try the veritably impossible and suicidal wish to "wipe out" the Dinka peope as a whole!

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    • 23 March 2012 13:22, by Loko El Pollo

      THE 2006 RESISTANCE TO DISARMED BY THE LOU,IT CAUSED LOU 1200 DEATHS AND 600 WOUNDED.SPLA LOST 400 SOLDIERS AND ALOTS WOUNDED.WANG,DO THE MATH AND TELL US HOW LOU IS GOING TO WIN IN THE END.WURNYANG WAS KILLED IN ONE OF THOSE BATTLES.

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    • 23 March 2012 20:02, by Tiger

      Wang!or (eye)!
      You Nuer are twisters,let me ask you this question,didn’t Dinka Bor people help you during the Murle attack,i wondered why you are lecturing about the Nuer winning war against Dinka Bor.you know i thought Nuer were smart people enough,but as i have learned a lot of things especially in this website,you’re one of the stupid community in SS,that’s why arabs were using you in the past.

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  • 23 March 2012 08:39, by Emporio

    if something happen between two uncivilized tribe why people always try to involve the great section of dinka (bor)as a master mind behind the conflict,the smartness of dinka bor brought freedom to all southern sudanese and i never see appreciation from southern ,we are the people of great big picture,not all the bullshit people saying , no one can damage our great achievement,history will say

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    • 23 March 2012 10:42, by Toney Toney Matot

      Dear Brother who writes on this web site.
      Dear all, i do not know where are we heading to?sit on a chair and post nonsence on the internet supporting tribal wars,nepotism and divison among us. when Lou Nuer,Murle,Dinka Bor,Warrap and Unity states were practicing cattle rustling all of us cried for disarmament of Civil population and today has become a mircales.

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    • 23 March 2012 10:53, by Toney Toney Matot

      what are the opinons of those supporting such activities ?
      am some how educated and would not wish to day to be advocating tribalism support my family members when they are wrong. is this what we fought? am really very disappointed from those brothers who always backed division within South Sudan.
      do we have Youth organization in South Sudan? are they United? and what is their role.

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  • 23 March 2012 09:10, by Deng25

    No more jumping around. About three days ago, the so call South Sudan News Agency published the same story.http://www.southsudannewsagency.com/opinion/press-releases/white-army-clashed-with-the-spla-at-least-7-people-dead

    My first reaction to that media site was negative. Now I know.

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  • 23 March 2012 10:18, by Martin Kat

    Dear readers,
    The disarmament is divided by two step, one and two.
    Step 1 peaceful disarmament mean to handover your armsfire to disarmament forces
    Step 2 forceful disarmament for a person who refuse to handover his/her arms to disarmament forces will be treated as a crimanils person not because of Dinka, Nuer and Murle but this disarmament compaiagn will never stop up to last.

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  • 23 March 2012 10:51, by Rommel

    Certain communities in South Sudan have an irrational and conspiratorial view of each and every *Federal* directive, policy and action; the Nuer blame the Dinka-Bor for virtually every calamity and every affliction that transpires in not only in Jonglei - but in the entire Nation.

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    • 23 March 2012 11:09, by Rommel

      This is a Federal initiative; an initiative that each and every community was made well aware of > as well as the attendant consequences of being uncooperative. I am not sure of the ethnic composition of the soldiers in this particular incident - but ever since the absorption and integration of the various Nuer militias into the SPLA immediately following the signing of the CPA...

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      • 23 March 2012 11:20, by Toney Toney Matot

        This is a message to all Southerners whether inside south Sudan or Abroad.
        what should we do in this critical moment? fight oursleves and then khartoum come and get no one in the South?or preach peace and develop the new nation? i need answer from comentators.

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      • 23 March 2012 11:24, by Rommel

        .. the Nuer have eclipsed the tribal representation of communities who were previously the majority during the war. How in the world are the Dinka-Bor to blame for this incident!? Jonglei must be dismantled as a state. The Dinka and the Nuer must be separated on the state level. Culturally contiguous populations (provided that they’re on good terms) should fall under one political unit:

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        • 23 March 2012 11:30, by Rommel

          The Murle, Jie and Kachipo should be elided with their kin in eastern Equatoria. The Dinka [Twic-east, Hol, Nyarweng and Bor] should form their own state. The Padeng Dinka should be administratively transfered to Upper Nile state. The Nuer [Lou, Gawaar, Thiang and Lak] should form their own state. The Anyuak should also be afforded a state of their own.

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          • 23 March 2012 11:32, by Rommel

            Unity state is also in desperate need of administrative change; the Dinka - Ruweng & panaruu- [Abiemnom & Pariang] should form their own state, with the addition of Abyei, once it has been returned to South Sudan... and it should be called Apadang State. Once the entirety of Abyei has been returned, Apadang State will be close to 40, 000km2 in size.

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            • 23 March 2012 11:37, by Rommel

              I am not implying that merely redrawing the map is some kind of panacea ,however, I believe that this would reduce tribal tensions vis-a-vis a reduction in political tensions. The Dinka "Bor" will no longer be resented and blamed for all the ills that continue to afflict Jonglei by mere extension of Kuol Manyang’s administrative failures.

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    • 23 March 2012 11:16, by General -GG ism

      Dear All,
      In fact killing each other is not good.South Sudan lost a lots of live since the coming of Arab and also during the collonial periods.
      kindly as youth, we don,t want to favor one side. or taking side according to the tribes.

      Let see in some years to come all of us will be united and do something better to our new nation(Repubic Of South Sudan)
      thaxs

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  • 23 March 2012 11:46, by pabaak

    Lou-Nuer youth can not be confused this time again, they are the one who led the first disarmament failed when they clashed with SPLA during first phase of disarmament some where between 2008-2009. which actually a failure from Goss at time because they neglect Jonglei to struggle in insecurity because the Government was fail to realize that Jonglei could become a bread basket not only for South

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    • 23 March 2012 12:00, by pabaak

      Sudan, because it has huge fertile land for agriculture, and great migration of wild animal not found anywhere else in world which can transform the state to the great destination for tourists, in addition to the swamp land that harbor any kind of fish, and the millions head of cattle. Now the government has finally realize how important Jonglei to the South Sudan Economy, specially some studies

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      • 23 March 2012 12:10, by pabaak

        reveal that the current oil producing States, Upper Nile, and Unity could experience reduction of output in some years coming leaving Government to think ahead of the increasing production by exploring new well,so any one try to stand in front of this reality is not difference with Jalaba who fought with us, Lou - Nuer need not to listen to confused people out South Sudan, who preach hatred

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        • 23 March 2012 12:19, by pabaak

          they need to listen to their leaders in counties and Payams and Bomas, who tell them to hand their guns, so that the development can reach to them, and this the same could be told to the other communities, Dinka, and murle, those who hide their guns they think are smart to continue looting other people properties but they will phase the consequences later when the disarmament exercise is over

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          • 23 March 2012 14:28, by Son of Upper Nile

            Disarmament should continue in Jonglie until every single illegal gun is collected. There is no way of primitive communities to make their own tribal armies or empires. Why Lau-Nuer want to have their own army while majority of SPLA soldiers are Nuer, why Murlei youth want to roam forests and oppose civilization, Why SSLA claim to fight the government but now reveal itself as only Nuer supporters.

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            • 23 March 2012 14:36, by Son of Upper Nile

              Our country is a collective result of liberation struggle of those who went to the bush, advocacy of our diaspora & civil resistance of those who stayed in South or moved within Sudan. We ALL voted for separation. Why some idol(Ngundeng) followers & some Murlei youth want to drag us back. By the way Nuer who are true Christians like many in Upper Nile & Fangak are for development as some Murlei

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  • 23 March 2012 13:04, by Jonglei Shepherds

    They will face the same resistance from Bor youth if they don’t refrain from looting and raping of our innocent women.

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    • 23 March 2012 14:07, by Chok Deng

      Dear commentators;
      Throwing blames on innocent tribes will not help us to go ahead,let us comment responsibly,and as educated people.I think opposing any tribe in leadership will not bring peace in South Sudan.

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  • 23 March 2012 15:58, by Kim Deng

    Folks,

    The Lou Nuer Warriors are not against the so-called "disarmament," but they want to make sure these rats(Murle) are disarmed first simply as that.

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  • 23 March 2012 16:03, by Kim Deng

    Coward Jaang/Slaves,

    There are no recorded instances in which the Dinka succeeded in countering a large-scale Nuer offensive without government assistance, despite the fact that they were issued guns and ammunitions by the government and hold a strong advantage in this respect.

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  • 23 March 2012 16:04, by Kim Deng

    The Dinka were evidently incapable of mounting an offensive counteroffensive that would have tied down Nuer forces in defense of home territory and were likewise unable to recoup their steady losses in cattle and land. The Nuer were thus free to leave their villages undefended while they engaged in extended raids, operating from bases established in conquered Dinka villages.

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  • 23 March 2012 16:06, by Kim Deng

    Although a Dinka counteroffensive against undermanned Nuer communities undoubtedly would have curtailed extended Nuer raids and offered highly favorable prospects for capturing large numbers of cattle, there is no evidence that the Dinka ever adopted this strategy.

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    • 23 March 2012 16:33, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:

      I see that you continue to refuse to carry out proper accredititation of a book that you insist on quoting ad verbatim; A book that details the rather impressive exploits of your great-grandfathers. It seems that your entire sense of self and pride is predicated upon that book. I suppose the reason you feel the need to incessantly quote that book is the realization that the good old

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      • 23 March 2012 16:46, by Rommel

        days of raiding the divided Dinka with impunity are over... And are NEVER to return. It’s nostalgia isn’t it, Kim Deng? In any case, your hatred of the Dinka is irrational, pointless and ultimately self-destructive. I can’t see how a certain Dinka section is possibly to blame for this; the Nuer now make up the bulk of the armed forces, after their integration in 2006.

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        • 23 March 2012 16:57, by Rommel

          The soldiers involved in this case are probably Nuer. It’s obvious as to how strong and entrenched the atavistic hatred for the Dinka is in Nuer society - and for this reason I want each and every state in which the Dinka & Nuer are together... To be dismantled and partitioned.

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          • 23 March 2012 17:08, by Rommel

            And as for your laughable claims of Dinka cowardice... just ask the visibly ecstatic Arab below on who they consistently encountered on the battle- fields. One assailed and disabled the oil facilities of the enemy — while the other protected these facilities on behalf of the enemy.

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    • 23 March 2012 19:42, by Tiger

      Mr.Kim Deng!
      you’re known in this website as someone separatist,selfish and someone lack common sense.your hatred toward Dinka will make you collape soon my friend.just keep in your mind that whatever you say is falling deeply into Dinka’s hearts.though Dinka are not stupid like you to even consider whatever you had been compaigning all the times in Sudantribune.shame on you my friend.

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  • 23 March 2012 16:48, by Ya Habibee

    Wa ha ha ha ha ha Wa ha ha ha ha ha Wa ha ha ha

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  • 23 March 2012 16:49, by Ya Habibee

    Junubeen killing eachother. Wa ha ha ha ha ha
    Wa ha ha ha ha

    Ya habibee
    From the Moon

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  • 23 March 2012 17:00, by Kim Deng

    Rommel,

    Are you willing to buy that Book? I doubt.
    Lacking the capacity to mount an offensive counterattack, the Dinka, Anyuak, Burun… had no recourse other than withdrawal. Under these circumstances, the rapid Nuer Conquest/occupation of the vast Western Dinka region [Mayom, Mankien…], Southern Dinka region [Nyuong Nuer territory], Central Dinka region [Fangak, Ayod, Waat…], Eastern Dinka, A

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  • 23 March 2012 17:04, by Kim Deng

    ...Anyuak and Burun region [Eastern Jikany Nuer and Lou Nuer territory] is not difficult to understand. Had the Nuer ever wished to occupy the whole greater Upper Nile, from Renk to Mading Bor and from Ruweng/Biemnom to Buma-Gambella, it seems unlikely that the other coward Jurs (Jaang, Teet, Bar, Chai…) could have stopped them.

    SC: NUER CONQUEST.

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    • 23 March 2012 17:21, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:

      I have already read that book as a matter of fact - and it’s a wonderfully detailed social-anthropological work on the dynamics between the Nuer and the many surrounding communities that they raided, subjugated, conquered and absorbed. What are my sentiments regarding the fate of the Dinka as detailed in that book? The Dinka were weak, disorganized and hopelessly divided...

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      • 23 March 2012 17:35, by Rommel

        And thoroughly deserved the afflictions that come with the sin of weakness. I don’t believe in the weak, Kim Deng. The Dinka mantra "kon-Koch" elicits absolute revulsion within me; if I were in charge of the Dinka ethnic-nation when Abyei was attacked by the SAF... Each Dinka section [large and small] would have been directed to supply thousands of men each. I don’t want a single Nuer, Equatorian

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        • 23 March 2012 17:41, by Rommel

          or anyone else for that matter to spill one drop of blood for Abyei or any other Dinka lands. I want these two tribes to manage their own territories as they see fit. Unity state, Upper Nile state and Jonglei must be partitioned.

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        • 23 March 2012 20:23, by Tiger

          Rommel!
          Sorry to say this to you(Nuer lack common sense)believe it or not that’s the truth.Abyei is indeed one of the Dinka territory,but it’s a national issue concerning everybody in South Sudan.when you hear Dinka using that word you have just mentioned(konkoch)that doesn’t mean Dinka are scary or anything,but we use it in a technique way in which we’re intended to win the war.but stupid people.

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          • 23 March 2012 20:34, by Tiger

            Always rushed to war even when something is not confirmed or satisfiable to fight that war,that’s how Nuer people had been loosing the war since Anynya two.they have never calculated the best way to win over their enemy,but always stayed blinded by their bully,big in Number,and stupid braveness which’s amount to nothing.Dinka(konkoch)brought you the CPAs.shouldn’t you people be ashamed to yourself

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  • 23 March 2012 19:01, by Abraham

    Rommel

    Please, for the sake of your future endervours, stop debating with the retarded roguish gunks!

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  • 23 March 2012 20:55, by acuil deng

    If "Lou-Nuer, or Murle" has nothing to live for, then save those lives for something worth to die for. Both tribes should live up to the expectation, and abide by the rules of the land, and not by the the rules of their tribes, or their youth, and disarm immediately to save the innocent lives that would have been lost if clashes had to continue.

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    • 23 March 2012 23:43, by Majak

      Dear brothers and sisters pleas do not attempte that you can ressistant army in future.

      The Natives which is belong to this land will never think for ressistant his army.

      The national armies will protect their residents or properties.

      The Natives will respect and support their government.

      Thank,
      Majak Akot

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  • 24 March 2012 04:03, by guer(r)illa’s graduate

    This president; Kiir, should know more about the security, he is an experienced military inteligent(MI). I blame the stupid advisors for this stupid disarmment. Thousands of soldiers are lazily sitting, kiling perched flies on their cheeks in Juba! The government must get rid of stupid corrupts - cashiers- and regularly pay soldiers without delaying payment or missing months. Deploy them (soldiers) in areas where tribal wars are burning!

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  • 24 March 2012 13:08, by Roordiordit

    For the peaceful disarmament in Jonglei state need a well-planned technical tactics for the representatives tribes’s convenience consensus.For instance,a permament forces must be deploy in all the tribes jurisdictional borders and a garrison in the bush to send reinforcement in any case.The security wound have been arranged at least six months before the disarmament start to prove that the

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    • 24 March 2012 13:23, by Roordiordit

      government is going to secure all the tribes from each other,but now tribes are in anxiety from each other feeling that,the will be attack by the other tribes if the handle their guns to the disarmament authority due to poor security.Government must manipulate how to disarm those who ran to the bush to prevent future attack.

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