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Sudan VP downplays significance of nationality accord amid fierce internal criticism

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March 17, 2012 (KHARTOUM) – The second Sudanese Vice President Al-Haj Adam Youssef sought to downplay the nationality framework agreement signed this week with South Sudan saying that it is simply an agreement on the principle of ’Four Freedoms’ but that details have yet to be sorted out.

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Men demonstrate against the United Nations’ decision to extend the United Nations/African Union Mission’s mandate in Darfur (UNAMID) in Sudan, after taking part in Jumma prayers (Friday prayers) in Khartoum August 19, 2011 (Reuters)

Youssef was quoted as saying by the government sponsored Sudanese Media Center (SMC) website that the Addis Ababa accord was based on the vital tenant of "trust building" which supports stability in the two countries.

He called the pact a "turning point" in the mentality of negotiations.

The two sides reached an understanding that their citizens can enjoy “freedom of residence, freedom of movement, freedom to undertake economic activity and freedom to acquire and dispose property". A joint committee from Khartoum and Juba will meet to write details of the ’Four Freedoms’.

Sudan’s VP said that media inaccurately reported that a final agreement on nationality was reached stressing that no in-depth discussion was made on the issue. He further said that this can be done after concluding and then implementing an accord on security arrangements.

This month, Youssef warned that by 9 April 2012 any Southerner in the north will have to either leave the country or seek to adjust their status, a move that drew criticism from human rights groups.

But the Sudanese VP appeared to soften his earlier statements saying that 9 April is not the date by which Southerners in Sudan will be ’kicked out’ but the date by which they need to regularise their status and that as of that day they will be considered foreigners.

However, he warned that a certain class of South Sudanese could face deportation immediately.

"If we get hold of an unwanted Southerner because of his negative role in security, social or economic sabotage then we have the right to expel him," Youssef said.

Sudan’s presidential adviser Mustafa Ismail addressing the same topic said that "Khartoum is not stupid" to sign the ’Four Freedoms’ agreement with South Sudan and that the accord gives 8 million northerners cattle grazing rights.

"We should not deny northerners the right to invest in the South and leave the South for the west," he told Sudanese expatriates in Egypt.

But many in Sudan, particularly from the far right Just Peace Forum (JPF) and hard line Islamists, remained unconvinced and harshly critical of what they view as too many concessions by Sudan’s negotiating delegation.

Idriss Abdel-Gadir, a member of Sudan’s negotiating team, broke down in tears as he addressed those who attended Friday sermon prayers to defend the agreement.

Prior to that, Sheikh Mohamed Hassan Tanon, the mosque’s preacher who led the prayers, likened the accord to the Egypt-Israel 1978 Camp David peace treaty and described those who endorsed it from Khartoum side as "traitors".

Tanon was unaware that Abdel-Gadir was one of those attending the prayers at his mosque. When the Sudanese official took the podium and identified himself he was met with disapproving grunts from worshippers but he kept his cool and told them that their behaviour is contrary to the mosque’s rules. He said that anyone not wishing to listen to him could leave.

Abdel-Gadir rejected accusations levelled against the negotiating team of being unpatriotic and unfaithful to their religion. He started crying which gained him some sympathy from worshippers who asked him to continue because he was talking objectively and rationally.

He went on to say that Sudan was targeted even before independence and noted that they fought against the Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) despite the support it received from neighbouring countries. When the SPLA found them strong they resorted to peace, he added.

The Sudanese official went on to say that Khartoum persistently rejected demands from Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) during negotiations to make the capital secular, which was eventually dropped by Southerners.

At another mosque during Friday sermon, the head of Ansar al-Sunna sect Sheikh Abu Zaid Mohammed Hamza blasted the government for agreeing to grant Southerners residency rights.

"The South is gone so let them enjoy their state as we had enough humility, humiliation and killing....We thought with the south’s secession we will be happy and they will be happy" Hamza said.

He described Khartoum’s negotiators as "idiots".

"Are you not embarrassed or ashamed from Allah? They [Southerners] want to interfere in our affairs after separation......Allah does not accept agreements which are humiliating for us, our religion and our Sharia’a" Hamza added.

In the same context, the preacher of Quran House Party mosque Mukhtar al-Sideeg called on the government to nullify the four freedoms and said that Sudanese people must decide whether to endorse it or not through a referendum.

"The Sudanese in the South are treated badly by the Government of South [Sudan]" he explained.

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  • 18 March 2012 10:09, by Gabriel KK

    The same principle will affect your nomads in South Sudan. unwanted nomad will not be allowed into South Sudan.

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    • 18 March 2012 10:24, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

      This fake Muslim are really idiot indeed, they are really stupid, how cloud the migrants trying to denial the really owners of the country freedom of everything’s
      I never find any hate religions in the world than Islamic wicked and evil believe,

      How cloud they got so blind like this to see the other side of the coin in which the northerners cattle-grazing have a rights in the four agreements.

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      • 18 March 2012 10:25, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

        This fake Muslim are really idiot indeed, they are really stupid, how cloud the migrants trying to denial the really owners of the country freedom of everything’s
        I never find any hate religions in the world than Islamic wicked and evil believe,

        How cloud they got so blind like this to see the other side of the coin in which the northerners cattle-grazing have a rights in the four agreements.

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        • 18 March 2012 15:20, by P.K.M

          Do northerners categorically believe they will enjoy freedom to own properties in the South and the other load of junks after all the killing they have been doing for decades using proxies?

          If so, they must be the most unreasonable people on this planet!

          Believing it on papers is one thing but living the reality in the south is another!

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          • 18 March 2012 15:27, by Agutran

            If the four agreements were genuine, there would be no point of shutting down the pipeline! Just read between the lines!

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          • 18 March 2012 21:41, by emad

            There is no a single Northerner interested in settling in the war-torn and the most failed state in the world. This damn agreement will be nullified by our people and we will be hunting down all southerners in the capital and the states after9/4 .So all southerners in the north should be aware that they are not welcome in Sudan after 9/4 set by the government.leave immediately or endanger you live

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            • 19 March 2012 14:15, by Abugua

              There are many northerners in the South almost 90% of traders in Juba And Yei are from the North. They are more at peace here than in Khartoum

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      • 18 March 2012 12:40, by Lang

        Since the beginning of time we Nilotic REAL sudanese have been in this northeastern part of Africa there was no such thing as Arab in this area until the unfortunate creation of islam. These creatures of the north should be the ones expelled from our indigenous land, let them form their own place outside Africa to prevent further destruction.

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  • 18 March 2012 10:15, by Michael Angelo

    This is a win -win strategy designed by the SPLM intellectuals to deceive those moron called NCP. We just want to kill time so that our demands are meet then get rid of those four agreements if they doesn’t serve our interest.

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    • 18 March 2012 10:53, by mohammed ali

      Angelo, how could it be a win-win game when you intend to decieve us?! deception does not exist in diplomacy, anything based on deception will fall apart!

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  • 18 March 2012 10:19, by wad balad

    We are not against this accord because it brings benifit to both people but we question its timing. How can we sign such an accord with a goverment that is tryin to destablize our country?. There are issues to be solved prior to such an accord such as oil, debt,border democration,support for rebels etc. For now everyone should move to their side of the border by April 9h

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    • 18 March 2012 12:10, by Logic

      Religious fanatics!

      What does religion have to do with the agreement! These people are so extreme its funny, they behave like members of a cult rather than a world renowned religion.

      Its Ironic that these by-products of African/ Arab mix say "the Sudanese in the south" and "the southerners in Sudan". You retards, should label yourself as "wana-be-Arabs" and the rest of us as Sudanese. RETARDS.

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      • 18 March 2012 16:39, by mohammed ali

        Logic, we are not worried about being Arabs or not. Since you want to remain in the Arab Sudan, it seem that you are the one who wana-be-Arab.

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  • 18 March 2012 10:47, by Bauer

    If you believe in a real God and I mean it a REAL God then I should not be expecting that from an Imam. Wad please preach to your fellow northerners that God is holy and seeks LOVE,PEACE,JOY & HARMONY not segregation based on religion or ethnicity.Religion should not be used as a tool for making Southerners in the North suffer but the supreme laws of Sudan.Allah is HOLY not discriminating!!!!!

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  • 18 March 2012 10:47, by Lang

    Who would want to live in that hellish place. It would be the happiest day in my life to get a deported with a free ticket out of that killing machine called a country.

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    • 18 March 2012 11:03, by Michael Angelo

      Mohemmed,

      How many agreements did your government signed and dishonor them? Is that a deception or what? To be frank with you, we cannot rely on bunch of liars who cannot keep their promise.

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  • 18 March 2012 11:24, by Chok Deng

    Four freedoms are misunderstood wrongly by some confused northerners.Northeners should think twice on this issues,otherwise we r gonna shut any hell related to Sudan.

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    • 18 March 2012 12:15, by Northern Sudanese

      Chok Deng

      we are not confused, we want your people OUT of OUR country by all means..... no matter what happens to Sudan it’s non of your business!!!!!!!

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      • 18 March 2012 12:26, by Logic

        Sudanese of the new republic will always be concerned with what happens in the north because they have historical ties with the real Sudanese, not you fake-wana-be-Arabs of two or three states.

        You retards are merely by-products of Arab men taking African women while selling their goods in the market a couple of centuries ago, now you want to claim ownership of our country. RETARDS.

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        • 18 March 2012 12:35, by Lang

          These mongrel creatures are the real foreigners, they should have their mongrel land somewhere in Arabia if the Arabs can even stand them.

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      • 18 March 2012 12:32, by Lang

        It’s an African country GO BACK TO ARABIA with your Arabic language and culture get out of Sudan land of the real black Africans.

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        • 18 March 2012 13:00, by Logic

          Lang

          They never came from Arabia, its their great grand fathers who came from there, and even those only make up about 29% of N. Sudan. They are our by-products. Like you said mongrels, a mix breed who want to claim one breed...hahahaha

          They should be grateful that we treat them as Sudanese and not mix breeds. Sudan is African land you retards.

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    • 18 March 2012 12:19, by Northern Sudanese

      Chok Deng

      we are NOT confused, we WANT your PEOPLE OUT of OUR country by ALL means!!!!!! Whatever happens to OUR COUTRY SUDAN is NON of your BUSINESS!!!!!!!

      remember that southerners....... you wanted your paradise and we gave it to ya...... we gave you all the oil and 1/3 of the land...... all that is now 100% yours....... what else do you want? citizenship? NO WAY!!!!!!!!

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      • 18 March 2012 12:33, by Lang

        It’s OUR African country, Go back to Arabia!

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        • 18 March 2012 12:43, by Northern Sudanese

          LANG

          Shut up!!!!!!! sudan is OURS not YOURS!!!!!!

          Your country is south sudan like it or not!!!! we gave you freedom, be happy with it!!!!!!!!

          700,000 southerners must be kicked out!!!!!!!!

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          • 18 March 2012 13:06, by Lang

            hahaha, sudan can never be yours until the mongrel population is African again. It’s African land given to you offspring of nilotic women of southern origin and salt traders who give camels and donkey as dowry.

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            • 18 March 2012 13:33, by Northern Sudanese

              hahahahaa retarded poor southerner hahahahhaa you want food? hahahahaha

              you are proper mad you, if sudan is yours, i dare you and your dirty hungry poor naked people to come and take it.........

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              • 18 March 2012 13:50, by Lang

                offspring of arab who gave camels and donkeys for dowry, when you go back to arabia for hajj. STAY THERE!

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                • 18 March 2012 13:52, by Lang

                  Save the food for yourself, soon you will not be able to buy meat or bread. You should be wise and save it.

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                  • 18 March 2012 14:18, by Northern Sudanese

                    Lang

                    shut up and feed your people........

                    i would feed them now before they die and be too late to feed themselves........

                    we have enough food poor southerner.......

                    south kordofan is enough to feed whole of sudan.......

                    sudan is ours not yours ok? remember that........

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                    • 18 March 2012 23:53, by Lang

                      FEED your people in nuba mountains before they die! The whole world is watching you people starve them, if you really have enough food feed them! Arab league, African Union, even the UN are trying to feed them why aren’t you giving them food you hellish people.

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  • 18 March 2012 23:26, by Son of Upper Nile

    But why the Somalis shown in the picture are going to streets in protest of agreement signed between South Sudan & Sudan. Jalaby, North Sudanese, can any of you explain this?

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  • 19 March 2012 05:38, by Madina Tonj

    Hamza and others Northern Sudanese

    You said, Allah does not accept separation why every human beings have different languages in the world?

    Well, you must understand that, the land of Sudan is belonging to those people which you guys mistreated for many years and we African societies have different culture and you guys can not turn us to become Arabs while, you found us in here owns Sudan

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