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February 24, 2012 (JUBA) – Christians in South Sudan are planning a pilgrimage to Israel in fulfillment of what they say was God’s promise in the Bible to the people of the region, senior Church leaders have announced.

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FILE - A Bishop stands in front of the altar during Easter Sunday service at Episcopal Church of the Sudan Diocese of Khartoum All Saints Cathedral in Khartoum April 24, 2011 (Reuters)

Spiritual leaders from various Christian denominations in South Sudan on Thursday presented a plan for the trip to South Sudan’s Vice President, Riek Machar, which was later broadcast on South Sudan television and radio.

If it goes ahead, the pilgrimage will see see hundreds of South Sudanese Christians, particularly senior church leaders, traveling to the Holy Land and presenting gifts on Mount Zion in the next few months.

According to a statement from the Vice President’s Press Secretary, James Gatdet Dak, the Church leaders in the meeting explained to Machar the significance of the pilgrimage which they said was promised by God in the Bible by the Prophet Isaiah more than 3,000 years ago.

The Church leaders presented their case based on Isaiah Chapter 18, with the title “God Will Punish Sudan” according to the ‘Good News Bible’ translation from Hebrew into English or “Prophecy Against Cush” according to the ‘New International Version.’

Many South Sudanese Christians believe that verse 3 of Isaiah 18 refers to South Sudan: “All you people of the world, you who live on the earth, when a banner is raised on the mountains, you will see it, and when a trumpet sounds, you will hear it.”

The prophecy continues in verse 7: “At that time gifts will be brought to the Lord Almighty from a people tall and smooth-skinned, from a people feared far and wide, an aggressive nation of strange speech, whose land is divided by rivers – the gifts will be brought to Mount Zion, the place of the Name of the Lord Almighty.”

The spiritual leaders told the Vice President that the independence of South Sudan, on 9 July 2011 as part of a peace deal with north Sudan, was foreseen and promised by God.

They argued that the raising of the "banner" refers to the South Sudanese flag being raised, signalling the country becoming the world’s newest country. South Sudan is the 193rd member of the United Nations and Africa’s 54th country.

The Church leaders said that the blowing of the "trumpet" was also fulfilled by the singing of South Sudan’s national anthem, which was created last year.

As the whole world was able to watch the historic event on television and through the media, the religious leaders said that this also completed the prophecy in Isaiah that the "whole world" would witness the event.

South Sudan’s independence came after decades of conflict since the end of Anglo-Egyptian rule in 1956.

The attempted imposition of Islamic Shari’a Law on South Sudan, was one of the many triggers for Sudan’s second civil war, which between 1983 and 2005 resulted in the deaths of around two million people.

However, to view the conflict as a religious one is misleading to most historians as it neglects to consider a host of other factors; the historical economic and political marginalisation of South Sudan; the "African" south’s resistance to Arabisation; the failure to implement a previous peace deal; and disputes over the division of resources including Nile water and latterly oil; to name a few.

South Sudan is a multireligious society with a large number of the population following traditional African belief systems, as well as Christianity and Islam. The new government of South Sudan, says it has, adopted a policy of religious freedom and tolerance.

Despite the fact that over 95% of South Sudan’s top leadership are Christians, the government says it encourages Muslims to freely carryout their pilgrimages to Islamic Holy places, such as Mecca in Saudi Arabia.

The government also organised a historical event two years ago to receive a nearly 150 year old rod or ‘dang’ of a leading South Sudanese traditional spiritual leader from the Nuer tribe, popularly known as Prophet Ngundeng Bong.

The Nuer believe that Ngundeng, who died in 1906, predicted South Sudan’s wars with various Khartoum governments and the country’s eventual independence.

His ‘dang’ was stolen by the British colonial administration in 1928 22 years after his death at his headquarters in what is now Jonglei state. It was returned to South Sudan on 16 May 2009.

The Church leaders discussed with the Vice President the type of gifts that could be selected and taken to the Mount Zion and requested that government finance the transportation of the pilgrims to Israel.

South Sudan has vowed to establish an embassy in Jerusalem and not Tel Aviv. Its relations with Israel have angered north Sudan and some other members of the Arab League, which blame Israel for aiding the break up of one their members.

Despite its largely African identity South Sudan has the option to join the Arab League because it seceded from a Sudan, a member of the ethnically based organisation.

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  • 25 February 2012 06:46, by Mi diit

    The prophecy for independence is now known worldwide and thrown away delusions about unity of Sudan. Prophet Isaiah of Israel and South Sudanese prophet Ngundeng both prophesied the independence and it came true despite resistance by Khartoum and unionists in South Sudan.

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    • 25 February 2012 07:01, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

      The believed of delusion wicked ngundeng is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully, that believed will always kept same,

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      • 25 February 2012 07:09, by Robot

        Dinka dominated SPLA,
        i in particular have been arguing that you are an enemy of the South, sincerely you are not a Dinka, this name is one name used by all enemies of the South especially the Arabs to confuse South Sudanese in the media, proof is the english they used, the language is different everyday, and this proofs it is not one man as he claim. shame on you.

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        • 25 February 2012 07:41, by Robot

          Dinka dominate spla,
          why are you not answering if you guys are not too many using this name to confuse South Sudanese.... we are a think tank and no idiot will fool Southerners to hate each other, i stand for unity of South Sudanese.

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        • 25 February 2012 07:51, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

          Insant, I’d love to ask how old you are, but unfortunately I know you can’t count that high because you cannot said that i am not from South Sudan.

          Denying me is just like denying Dr Garang, Kiir, Pagan, Koul Manyang, Wani, Majak Agoot, Mathok, jamse Hoth, and many more,
          saying what i believed is what brought this internet of todays,

          God bless the South,

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          • 25 February 2012 09:07, by Robot

            Insane not insant this proves rhetoric. how old i am cannot be commensurate to proof to you your retarded thinking as the name suggest, and why be mad about it if you are a south sudanese.. you comparing yourself to those heroes answer and serves you right that you are totally an ass, i am a proud Dinka and would not hesitate to answer people misusing the name, your concept is clear who u r.

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            • 25 February 2012 09:34, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

              Try very hard to be Dinkas but it will not work, sellout Dinkas are not turstwalthy than Dead dog, If we have to talk about education as you start it, then i hope you would be my bitch,

              Go and talk to your peer or go back to school,
              shame on you,

              What is wrong with my name DINKA_DOMINATED_SPLA/M, all my family inculding me were in the army so back off fake Dinka,

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          • 25 February 2012 10:00, by Jeti Chiteng-Liu

            The fools of South Sudan are planning pilgrimage to Israel by diluting it with the dang of Doom-Prophet Ngundeng Bong. Ngundeng Bong was not a God’s prophet but a Satan’s prophet, so leave his dang behind and don’t even go and mention his/her name otherwise you will all be chased back ’cos Israel is a Holy State as you say, so it does not need wicked gifts.

            Jeti Chiteng-Liu
            Pyonyang, Korea

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            • 25 February 2012 11:12, by Mi diit

              Israel believes in prophets like Ngundeng becoz they have similar prophets like Isaiah.

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              • 25 February 2012 20:26, by Dhalaluaak

                Midit,
                There has been prophets like Ngundeng Bong in Israel during the old testament, but never been counted as Godly prophets, but got their revelations directly from satan.If you think the FALSE PROPHET NGUNDENG was like those of prophet Isaiah, then please show us one example of such prophet you know as ngundeng Biblical reference[ chapter & verse ].Otherwise you are still believing the doom pr

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                • 26 February 2012 05:13, by Mi diit

                  Dhaluaak,

                  False prophets are known for their false predictions which do not happen. But Ngundeng predicted independence of South Sudan and the ten states of South Sudan now and many others. So his prophecies show that they come directly from God and that is why they have come true as he said it. So he is a true prophet of God for South Sudan (God’s people).

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                  • 26 February 2012 18:09, by Dhalaluaak

                    Midit,
                    I know more about Ngundeng brother.Ngundeng used to performed witches against Jaang in order for Nuer to defeat the jaang.There are many evil practices that Ngundeng used to do and also that Ngundeng used to compete with Dual Diu for power.Dual Diu was so strong.Check your Bible please before supporting Ngundeng’s false prophesies.Otherwise you are a confused christian, for one cannot save

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                    • 26 February 2012 18:16, by Dhalaluaak

                      Continuation....
                      The bible states, you cannot save two masters.That means you cannot save God and at the same time save Satan.Ngundeng was hundred percent got his revelations from evil as Mohammed did in the Quran.It is not a surprise to see some confused believers as you, who can’t deter to separate the two spirits.Satan has the power to confuse people’s mind.I know a lot of Ngundeng’s way of lif

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            • 25 February 2012 15:33, by Acinitos

              Hello Who is Jeti Chileng_ liu who sign in the name Pyonang Korea.
              Brother if this is not fake name you have no business to talk South-Sudan issue you are failure and Frustrated people of Korea,You did not hear or Have no idears of this Prophesied yet,this is just beginning ,the real to come is not yet mention in this page which will shut your big mouth up,It is true prophesis brother wait and see

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            • 26 February 2012 00:30, by Ke kon cowkun

              The flag was raised by the promise people who came to Israel 6 years back,those are the people which Prophet Isaiah was mentioning in the Holy Bible,not those who are now planning to come to Israel.July 9th those people went to Mount Zion and raised the South Sudanese flag as it has been written in the Bible and the Gift were already given there.I don’t know how they will raise th what kind of Gif

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            • 26 February 2012 00:38, by Ke kon cowkun

              The flag was raised by the promise people who came to Israel 6 years back,those are the people which Prophet Isaiah was mentioning in the Holy Bible,not those who are now planning to come to Israel.July 9th those people went to Mount Zion and raised the flag as it has been written in the Bible and the Gift were already given there.I don’t know how they will raise the flag again

              Kon
              Jerusalem
              Isra

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          • 25 February 2012 20:21, by panom lualbil

            Guys,respect plize! You might even insult ur parents when names are fake on this web. Plize limit those rampant behaviors since this is about GOD. Of course, in nuer, dinka, murle, shilluk and so forth, our first education is about respect, no matter whoever you deal with. Dont spread germs but word of GOD. Ya know better than that.

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          • 26 February 2012 00:11, by Ke kon cowkun

            narrow minded person Dinka Dominated.You are really not from South Sudan,mentioned those people couldn’t meant you are from S.Sudan b/c you know them,that is lie b/c they are very known to Arab people.God knows what you are always doing day and night curse on you for destroying the new Nation by your useless words.

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      • 25 February 2012 07:21, by Malou Manyiel

        Dinka Dominated SPLA,

        You are a disgrace to all Dinkas, infact, you are not a Dinka by 100% sure. I don’t know what kind or type of a creature I can compare you with!!!

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      • 25 February 2012 07:23, by Marolditapei

        IT IS A FULFILLMENT OF TRUE HISTROY IN ISAIAH 18. ALSO FASCINATING IS THE PROPHECY OF THE MOST BLESSED NGUNDENG BONG FROM DENG TAATH OF NHIALIC APEI AND FROM HIS PIRYAM! WOW! WHAT A BLESSED PROPHECY OF ISAIAH 18 AND THE MOST BLESSED OF DENGDIT

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        • 25 February 2012 20:32, by Dhalaluaak

          Marolditapei,
          What are the connections between prophet Isaiah and Ngundeng?If you can understand English better then tell us verse in Isaiah 18 matches Ngundeng’s and how? Otherwise i don’t see any connection whatsoever to tie to Isaiah.I have Ngundeng’s Book but not compared to Isaiah my friend.

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          • 26 February 2012 05:21, by Mi diit

            Dhalaluaak,

            Both Prophet Isaiah and Prophet Ngundeng predicted independence of South Sudan. I thought you recognized that long time ago. Isaiah said a banner will be raised. Ngundeng said my flag will be different from the flag of Marol (Jalaba). Also Ngundeng went further on referendum itself when he said I will let my people free when they all fit in my one palm (hand), the separation symbol.

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      • 25 February 2012 09:57, by molana

        Dinka dominated SPLM/SPLA,
        ci yi baak? ye ngo da manh baai ci yin kedang ben bar nyin kela? duk wet e Nhialic ye jamic dhel rac, ke thiak kek Nhialic aci kooc ye tuk, hen eraan tong nhiar gandu apei dhie ye ok kooc aterkua cimen Nuer, Duor ku Juur dok nhiim bik kuat col Muonyjang ci ye jaam guop
        yin aba leec apei ta det yin hen yenakan

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        • 25 February 2012 10:09, by molana

          the promise is now fulfilled, thank God we have reached the destination,

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        • 25 February 2012 11:53, by Tamongali

          Mr. molana, you are not commenting for Dinka dominated spla/m alone. we need to understand and comment. please use language of the forum

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          • 25 February 2012 14:10, by molana

            Dear Tamongali,
            it is direct message to DD/SPLM/SPLA, u are not involve, since i have learned the issue is related to God’s services, i commented directly to the article not to any of u, i am not surprised to write in the internet like others
            there is tym 4 jokes $ tym 4 reality(facts) get me right!

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      • 25 February 2012 13:10, by Kashta

        Dinka Dominated SPLA/M,
        You are not only stupid but a thieve too, these words were said by Richard Dawkins in his book "The God Delusion". the next time try to steal from someone less prominent. you will find these words and other ones on:
        http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/1194.Richard_Dawkins
        By the way,MR.Dinka Dominated Stupidity, Richard Dawkins is a well known atheist and book writer. cont

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        • 25 February 2012 13:14, by Kashta

          He is a British national who was born on march 26, 1941 in Nairobi, Kenya. Some of his other books; The Selfish Gene, The Blind Watchmaker, River Out of Eden A Darwinian View of Life. one last thing , Mr. Dinka dominated Ignorance, in this specific quote richard Dawkins was describing the god of the old testment, the God of Jews, How ironic !!!

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          • 25 February 2012 16:42, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

            Kasht the real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance go back and ready your claim and dismise what you just said stupid, english is the same inculding what you just used but the way it is uesd is different, so just shut the fuck off and go get some education, your little education has nothing to do with what i know, so your claim is doom, english has abcdefgh and so no shame,
            DM UK

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            • 25 February 2012 21:47, by Kashta

              Thieve Dominated,
              You’re not making any sense as usual, "go back and ready your claim and dismise what you just said stupid" what does this suppose to mean for God’s sake! Most of your comments are nothing but complete nonsense, it seems that you only make sense when you steal someone else’s words and attribute them to yourself. I insist to call you a thieve because that is just what you are.

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      • 25 February 2012 19:05, by wech

        Dear my fellow South Sudanese,

        Let us just preach for peace....Debating for nonsense will bring us nothing. Let us all just work for our country and forget about tribalism. Kuoth or Nhailic or God are also the same except we are saying them in different tongues.

        Thank you all,

        Wech

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      • 26 February 2012 02:51, by kumkan

        Violating the copyright law proved to us that you are such a idiotic who didn’t learned anything in school.Like it was said earlier by one commentator you’d fool yourself and once again, your shallow brain came short.

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    • 25 February 2012 07:05, by Robot

      Glory be to God,
      We are His chosen people and the prophecy has become true .... go and give the gifts to the Lord, His abundant blessings shall shower us and South Sudan will remain strong forever, Amen.

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      • 25 February 2012 07:16, by Mi diit

        @Robot,

        Ameeeeeen!

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        • 25 February 2012 07:26, by Marolditapei

          DINKA DOMINATED SPLA/M,

          IT IS A FULFILLMENT OF TRUE HISTROY IN ISAIAH 18. ALSO FASCINATING IS THE PROPHECY OF THE MOST BLESSED NGUNDENG BONG FROM DENG TAATH OF NHIALIC APEI AND FROM HIS PIRYAM! WOW! WHAT A BLESSED PROPHECY OF ISAIAH 18 AND THE MOST BLESSED OF DENGDIT

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        • 25 February 2012 07:26, by Robot

          God use people to convey His prophecies, Elijah, John, Isaiah, Jeremiah.. name them, they didn’t fall from the sky but God uses them, Similarly Ngundeng was used by God.. i am writing this because of the Dinka Dominated SPLA, to atleast educate them.

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        • 25 February 2012 07:31, by Malou Manyiel

          @Robot,

          Indeed, we are God’s chosen people, and I believes to whoever predicted South Sudan independencce, whether by God himself or Ngun Deng. We must have thanksgiving to God. I hope Dr. Riak, the vice president should approve transport to these religious leaders.

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      • 25 February 2012 07:34, by Land-of-Cush

        In the glorious name of almighty God, May you God keep increasing their knowledge, strengthening and spiritual wisdom to fulfilled their commitments and guides them on their way to and back from Mount Zion in Israel.

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    • 25 February 2012 07:26, by omoni jr.

      Dear reporter,
      mixing God and gods is unacceptable,do not contradict the history of south sudan and its people,who is ngundeng is south sudan? which war did he/she participate?
      This is why i don’t like people who try to mix things and tell wrong result.If you want to write history of Nuer community then you are right to talk about Ngundeng,but do not include the whole south sudan,I myself don’t.

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      • 25 February 2012 07:28, by Marolditapei

        DINKA DOMINATED SPLA/M,

        IT IS A FULFILLMENT OF TRUE HISTROY IN ISAIAH 18. ALSO FASCINATING IS THE PROPHECY OF THE MOST BLESSED NGUNDENG BONG FROM DENG TAATH OF NHIALIC APEI AND FROM HIS PIRYAM! WOW! WHAT A BLESSED PROPHECY OF ISAIAH 18 AND THE MOST BLESSED OF DENGDIT

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      • 25 February 2012 07:30, by Robot

        Omoni,
        who cares maybe you are not a South Sudanese. i am not Nuer but the truth is there, what Ngundeng prophecised were Gods’.

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        • 25 February 2012 08:13, by omoni jr.

          am south sudanse ,born and raised in south sudan,Not all tribes should know more about Devil called Ngundeng.
          am christian and i don’t believe in gods and devils,i believe in almighty God.

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        • 25 February 2012 15:00, by Aarai Baka

          Ngundeng is not a prophecy, but nuer satan that is being used to go and fight war against others tribes or killed. what prophecy only favor one tribe(nuer or gatnaath)? shameful on them, especially ruach, kim deng, gordon wang and likes.Who is Nyundeng to be worship? ngundeng is cursed devil.

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          • 26 February 2012 05:30, by Mi diit

            Aarai Baka,

            You are very emotional without first learning Ngundeng’s messsages. He didn’t favor Nuer as you claim it. Actually he cursed Nuer and Dinka more than other tribes. The good thing is that he predicted their restoration. Even the current fighting between Lou Nuer and Murle and Dinka Bor he predicted it. Then if he favors Nuer how could he involve Lou Nuer in the mess? He only revealed

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      • 25 February 2012 07:38, by George Bol

        Omnoi jr.

        I agree with you comment. The Nuer history must followed their gods with the exclusion of the other South Sudanese. Their gods is absolutely Satan. Good job!

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      • 25 February 2012 08:00, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

        omoni jr.
        Thank, that is what i tried to say in my first comment but english is the problemes to our brothers who are just fail to understand what i said,

        If i could just ask in simple english that what the hell do we have to do with wicked and delusion evil ngundeng and the almighty God, do they think what this so called James gadat dak wrote is holy?

        Shame to uneducated childerent of poor

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      • 25 February 2012 08:23, by Jimmy A. Makur

        To Omoni jr,

        Thank for your invaluable comment this time! yes indeed the Lou-Nuer got a right to worship their gods, but they shouldn’t both others people for their wrong believes.

        The independent of S. Sudan has nothing to do with Ngundeang or whatever you called it.

        The world is changing so stop mixing up the history of our nation with your cultural believes.

        Lies don’t lived longer Dr. Kin

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        • 25 February 2012 08:44, by Mi diit

          Those who don’t believe in black prophet Ngundeng are not South Sudanese or they don’t know that God loves South Sudan as said in Isaiah 18 and therefore gave it a prophet to convey his messages in South Sudan. Ngundeng predicted independence. He said his people will be free when they fit in his one palm (hand), and that is the symbol of separation in the last year’s referendum.

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    • 25 February 2012 12:22, by Shadrack Nuer Machut

      My dear appreciation to those South Sudan christian leaders for their being inspired by God to explain the events pertaining to Success to independence.

      It’s believable that the hostorical explanation of Gifts to Mounts Zion is factual.

      May H.E Vice Pres. permit the move to Israel by finacing it.

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    • 25 February 2012 13:45, by Loko El Pollo

      TO MIDIIT; DID NGUNDENG PROPHESIED ABOUT THE COMING AND SPREAD OF CHRISTIANITY IN SOUTH SUDAN?.IF THE ANSWER IS NO,THEN WHAT HAS HE LEFT IN STORE FOR HIS FOLLOWERS AFTER HIS PROPHESIES ARE FULLFILLED?.and how long is he going to be revere and deitify.

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  • 25 February 2012 07:31, by George Bol

    That is funny! Ngundeng and Wurnyang are the same. What is the benefits of the stick of 70 years ago? I can not stop this kind of thinking capacity. Without the hard fought war that we paid the prize in the absence of ngunedeng/wurnyang their gangsters,we won’t talk now about South Sudan. Shame to satans.

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    • 25 February 2012 07:37, by Marolditapei

      The believed of delusion wicked MANGOOR/DI is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully, that believed will always kept same,

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      • 25 February 2012 08:16, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

        Marolditapei
        Get some education son it is not difficult you are still young i know you can do it,

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        • 25 February 2012 09:00, by Mi diit

          Jealousy by some against prophet Ngundeng simply because he was black man and not from your tribe or country doesn’t make sense here. You are already living your life based on his prophecy whether it was war or peace or independence. The rest of his prophecies are coming soon. Prepared to be disappointed as you get surprised every moment. We know them VERY well.

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    • 25 February 2012 07:43, by manyang mawech

      That is the best for Ngundeng’s prophecy bc he predicted everything we went through and no doubt he can be thank at last.With out Bol and D.M, WE the rest of Southern thank for hard work.

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    • 25 February 2012 08:02, by Land-of-Cush

      Georg Bol

      I know you are from Ngok Atar of George Athor. Ngungdeng predicted that Tut lueech (that mean Bull from Dinka Lueach which are Atar) will turn his head to wilderness but will not come back. I think we all know that George Athor has defected from Government and now disappeared.

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      • 25 February 2012 08:03, by Land-of-Cush

        Georg

        Just be patient there is a lot to happen including Khartoum problem that predicted to happen, may be you will be alive when it gonna happen, this war will be fought by different nations against Khartoum.

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      • 25 February 2012 10:13, by mohammed ali

        Cush, now you see you are not from Kush! Kush is Sudan! The Jews were angry with Abraham , because he married to a Kushite-black lady , the mother of Ismail. This why the " want" to punish us! Go and join them !

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        • 25 February 2012 11:08, by Mi diit

          Mohamed,what do you know about Bible. Just read your Quran.

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        • 25 February 2012 13:30, by Rommel

          Mohammed Ali:

          I don’t know of what to make of you; are you merely ignorant? Or are you just a compulsive liar, in the habit of adopting any congenial position whether factually right or wrong!? Abraham did not marry Ishmael’s mother. Abraham’s maidservant and concubine Hagar [who was the mother of Ishmael] was an Egyptian - not a Kushite.

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          • 25 February 2012 13:41, by Rommel

            It’s also clear that you have muddled up the chronology as well as the personalities involved; the only Biblical character said to have married a ’Kushite’ was Moses; Moses’s wife Zipporah was actually not a Kushite but a member of the Kenite tribe of the Sinai region. The label of ’Kushite’ is actually a misnomer due to later translations of her Hebrew description ’kushi’ meaning simply ’black’

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            • 25 February 2012 14:23, by Rommel

              These historical facts evidently mean absolutely nothing to you; you refuse to submit your intellect to even a cursory inspection on the matters that you so impudently insist on speaking at great length; you would rather delve in veritable fiction. Do you honestly believe that Israel’s policy towards Sudan is motivated by an atavistic hatred from the 7th century BCE!?

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              • 25 February 2012 14:32, by Rommel

                Or would Sudan’s declaration of war on Israel in 1967 be of more consequence!? You must first *think* extensively [and rationally] on any matter before proceeding to discuss it with others!

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    • 25 February 2012 08:12, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

      Geroge brother this people are really sick and need help, but for them to be better community, we we need them to getting rid of a delusion of evil ngundeng and that will makes them wiser than getting hold of a truth.
      Seriously i don’t know what can open the eyes of this blind community of nuer,They fail today, then tomorrow the repead it again,
      really God help them,

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    • 25 February 2012 20:46, by Dhalaluaak

      George Bol,
      Thanks you brother, these people took that doomed prophet like the west with Nastradomas of 1500century.They don’t even feel a shame when Dr.riek failed to raised the Flag of which some of them said he used a remote control to raised the flag which did not happened, but been raised our Spla soldiers under President Kiir Mayardit.So Ngundeng failed here as you all know on july 9,2011.

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      • 26 February 2012 05:38, by Mi diit

        Dhalaluak,

        It is not simply about who physically or politically raised the flag. It is about whose ideas brought the occassion to raise the flag. Dr. Riek Machar has been facilitating all these whether self-determination, implementation of CPA, process of referendum and preparation for independence. And also raised the flag on top of mountains (192) nations in New York.

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        • 26 February 2012 05:43, by Mi diit

          ....And besides, God likes inclusivity or contributions from others. Riek would not do all these alone without Kiir. Even Ngundeng himself wanted his people of South Sudan to share achievement. This makes every body loyal to the nation, then to say only one person has done it all. Others maybe jealous. So it was good that Kiir contributed in raising the flag of independent South Sudan.

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  • 25 February 2012 08:15, by JAMES KUOI STEPHEN

    Successfull prosperity in Jesus Christ name. God said, in Jeremiah29:-)11, I have a plan for prosterity but not for dieaster.Called on Me and I will hear you come near to Me and I will healed you.Therefore, Jesus Christ said, knock and it will be open, ask and it will be given. Now is the time for our hearts to give glory of thank to Yekoba De Rem, God of Jacob, God Almighty God.Holy Spirit will!

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    • 25 February 2012 13:57, by Loko El Pollo

      TO KUOI THIONGKHOL: WHERE ARE YOU RESIDING,IAM YOUR FORMER COLLEAGUE FROM GROUP SEVEN. MAN,YOU SOUND LIKE A PASTOR FROM YOUR COMMENTS.THANKY YOU MR STEPHEN, IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THE LAST TIME I SAW IN LOKICHOGIO.

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  • 25 February 2012 08:44, by manyang mawech

    No more raid will take place against our bros jang unless they go back to their bad attitude toward our community. No wun laam to be burn, Adang,Abuong,Abaaliet,Duk, Atar, Poktap, Thanyagor, Jale, Baydit Makuach and Bor town.

    Peace is promise and must take place now.

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  • 25 February 2012 08:52, by Mi diit

    I love the description by God which says we are "tall and smooth-skinned people, an aggressive nation which is feared far and wide...with strange speech." He really predicted our way of presenting speeches. I see myself in the prophecy. We are aggressive and strong and God loves it so that we conquer others who don’t want our independence, justice and equality.

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  • 25 February 2012 08:59, by manyang mawech

    Where is a valueless guys call Dinka M. today? Didn’t you see Riek’s name in that artcle or what happened to you? Bring someup about him. What do you think about your next president

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    • 25 February 2012 09:26, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

      Nuer boys you will never win this case because Belief is the death of intelligence.since you belief in satan ngudeng and wurrnyang, your intelligency as nuer future leader is dead,

      How many time did your wicked belief lat you down? I hope the wicked ngundeng did not perdicted our leadership style thought,

      Did Ngundeng said that your nuer leaders are going to be under our amnesty? if yes than

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    • 25 February 2012 09:28, by 4Justice

      "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD." Leviticus 19:28

      The cutting of flesh is the causes cattle rustling, demonic pride, greed (Corruption) and nepotism.

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      • 25 February 2012 09:38, by 4Justice

        "And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them." 1 Kings 18:28

        "And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition."
        Mark 7:9

        Cattle Rustling is demonic possession

        "But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to G

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        • 25 February 2012 11:17, by Mi diit

          4justice

          You mean cutting flesh like during circumcision of men and women?

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          • 25 February 2012 14:39, by 4Justice

            I mean scaring your forehead with a sharp objec (Traditional Scaring)

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            • 26 February 2012 05:50, by Mi diit

              Oh mean those cuttings in Greater Bahr el Ghazal or Upper Nile. Can you show us the picture of how your islamic women’s are brutally circumcised in their sextual organs? What other tribes in North Sudan such as Dongola of Jafaar Nimieri, for example, who also cut their cheeks? Don’t be shy to bring their pictures too.

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  • 25 February 2012 09:48, by Doot

    "It is always a disgrace to Southsudan to associate idol Ngundeng with the Bible and Prophecy."
    Please churches, do go but don’t make a mistake to mention Ngundeng as a prophet or else you would ruin the very existing image between Israel and Southsudan".

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    • 25 February 2012 09:58, by Mi diit

      Israelis know the importance of prophets because they have them. So they respect Ngundeng.

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  • 25 February 2012 10:26, by manyang mawech

    Midit,
    Please don’t blame some Dinka who deny Ngundeng’s prophecies.Why? Ngundeng killed fake prophet Lungor in Twic East and Kurjieth in Ngok Abaaliet period.Can you imagine? Many white people wrote many books about prophet Ngundeng.This is a simply fact if you deny it then you are out of yr mind.

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    • 25 February 2012 11:25, by Mi diit

      True, maybe they claimed to be false prophets and Ngundeng’s God given power struck them down.

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    • 25 February 2012 13:56, by Rommel

      Yuot Nyakong [a Dinka] was the greatest earth-master among the Lou-Nuer and prophet of DENG, a Dinka divinity; Yuot Nyakong was Nyundeng’s teacher and predecessor; DENG was a divinity that the Nuer adopted as their own from the Dinka. If you Nuer wish to base your entire social fabric on a Dinka deity... then so be it.

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      • 26 February 2012 05:54, by Mi diit

        Rommel,

        You are educated person who should not succumb to lies. Ngudeng had no teacher at all since his birth came with his spiritual power. Those of Yuot Nyakong you speak of are not even known in Nuer history of prophets. They were witcrafts. Learn about Ngundeng well since you are educated.

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    • 25 February 2012 14:16, by Loko El Pollo

      KON AJITH WAS DINKA BOR PROPHET FROM KOCH,HE PROPHYSIED ABOUT THE 1991 MASS KILLINGS AND EVENTUAL RECAPTURE OF BOR BUT NOBODY HEED HIS WARNING OF DOOMS.HE WAS UNEDUCATED BUT HAS THE POWERS TO QUOT FROM NEW AND TESTAMENT AT THE TIME WHEN THERE WERE NO BIBLICAL BOOKS IN BORLAND.HIS BELIEFS WERE PENTACOSTAL IN NATURE WHICH LATER PUT HIM AT ODD WITH MISSINARIES IN MALEK.

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      • 26 February 2012 05:58, by Mi diit

        Do you mean Kon Ajith was there alive when Bor was attacked in 1991 and also warned people about it?

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        • 26 February 2012 13:24, by Loko El Pollo

          YES MR SPOON BOY,KON AJITH DENG YOUT NYAKONG BONG DENGDIT AND HIS COUSIN MACH YOUT NYAKONG BONG DENG ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO NGUNDENG,WHO IS THEIR GREAT GRAND FATHER WHO DISAPPEARED AT OLD AGE,HE WAS MAD BECAUSE HIS DIRECTIVES WERE IGNORED IN FAVOR MACH, A PROVEN AN WELL LIKE PROPHETS WHO COULD WEED OUT PEOPLE WITH EVILS INTENTIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.WHEN THE GRAND WERE ASKED ABOUT THE WHEREBOUTS

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        • 26 February 2012 13:39, by Loko El Pollo

          OF NYAKONG.THEY SAID HE MOVED TO ANOTHER AREA AND HE IS DOING FINE.IN HIS HOME,HE PERFORMED HIS RAIN MIRACLE.THE NUER WERE SO AMAZED.THEY GAVE HIM HIS NAME NGUNDENG,WHICH LITERALLY MEANS GOD SENT.HE FOUND HIMSELF A MIDDLE AGE WOMEN WHOM HE HAD SPENT A LONG TIME WITHOUT A CHILD.FINALLY HE HAD A NAMED GUEK.BOR RELATIVES USED TO VISIT HIM THAT IS HOW ONE OF THE PILGRIME STOLE A JUG OF HIS GROUND NUTS

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        • 26 February 2012 13:51, by Loko El Pollo

          NYAKONG WAS CUSTODIAN AND OWNER OF BAAR, A DEITY BELIEVED TO BE NUMBER TWO OR ONE IN THE SPIRITUAL REALMS OF DEMONISM.KON WAS CHOSEN BY TRUE GOD TO SPREAD THE MESSAGE OF GOOD NEWS LIKE JOHN THE BAPTIST.HE WAS SPYIED ON BY BLOOD ASSASINS WHO THOUGHT HE WAS WORSE THAN THEIR DEITIES.HE WAS KILLED IN 1992 OR 3 BY GOVERMENT FORCES WITH ONE OF CO-PASTOR.THEIR BODIES WERE MINCED UP AND THROWN AWAY INTO J

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  • 25 February 2012 11:34, by peace seeker

    (The Nuer believe that Ngundeng, who died in 1906, predicated South Sudan’s wars with various Khartoum governments but also the country’s eventual independence)

    Also according to Ngundeng,the Nuer tribe will eventually control and govern South Sudan.Riek Machar, according to Nuers meets the specifications set by Ngundeng to be the president and not any one else.

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  • 25 February 2012 12:24, by Tambura

    If somebody don t have that mind 2 think clearly, it is ok 4 him|she to believe in something. The truth is all religion leaders of ss are hypocrite, mix religion with politic is worse thing 2 do. Believe in white Jesus and knows that he was killed by Jews and still planning a pilgrimage to Israel, this is another way of creating and brainwash our people so they can go 2 spend money in Macca.

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  • 25 February 2012 12:56, by Julia Anok

    Will that move bring an end to cattles thief and killing? It another way of wasting money from they bogus members of splm party.

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    • 25 February 2012 13:44, by Mi diit

      You reject honoring God becoz of money? You will steal them anyway.

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  • 25 February 2012 15:23, by E. Defense Forces

    Take it easy guys,be careful of what you are asking for. I found this video link check it out.
    ((South Tel Aviv Is On Fire. Protest to expel Africans from South Tel Aviv and all of Israel))
    http://www.southsudanhub.com/media/186/Mini_Series:_Africans_In_Israel_Part_1/

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  • 25 February 2012 15:29, by pabaak

    congratulation to those who will be traveling to holy land, what exploit the message is author assertion "Despite its largely African identity South Sudan has the option to join the Arab League because it seceded from a Sudan, a member of the ethnically based organization". who had ever sought of joining Arab league? as is clear ethically based on Arab identity.

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  • 25 February 2012 16:40, by Thondet Manyang

    Suplendid!
    God knows what he wants us(South Sudanese) do better. Almighty do your will as you save us from all the sufferings and comfort us lets have peace in mind our Lord. Amen!

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  • 25 February 2012 16:41, by Anynya One

    4This is what the LORD says to me: Isaiah 18
    I will keep quiet and watch from my dwelling place.
    My presence will be like scorching heat in the sunshine,
    like heavy dew in the heat of the harvest.
    5Before the harvest, when blossoms are gone
    and grapes are ripening from blossoms;
    he will cut off the shoots with pruning shears
    and chop off the spreading

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  • 25 February 2012 16:50, by Anynya One

    branches. 6They will be left for the birds of prey on the mountains and the wild animals. The birds of prey will feed on them in the summer and all the wild animals on earth will feed on them in the winter. 7At that time gifts will be brought to the LORD of Armies.

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  • 25 February 2012 16:57, by Anynya One

    Happening right now, Equatorians are united, but not Dinkans & their neighbor Nuers nor Murle and others… Listen, God cannot tolerate pride (2 examples - the belief that one tribe or one clan is better than another tribe or clan, or the belief that humans can do everything themselves and don’t need God), or the murder of innocent people such as women and children, or the raping of women and girls!

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    • 25 February 2012 20:53, by Dhalaluaak

      Anyanya One,
      Likewise God and Devil cannot unit so as Equatorian.Please check your backyards before reaching other tribes backyards.You used too much bewitching,as you always been known for witchcraft practices.And of course thousands of Equatorian and other tribes men, women and children died as a result of such practices.Please be quiet.

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  • 25 February 2012 22:23, by Mayar

    Just to me honest, many of you here are idiot. Some of you here like to makes a comments that is not even related to the article. And not to mention some people who still don’t know grammer for God seek.. If you want people to hear what you said, learn the grammer.

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    • 25 February 2012 22:56, by Tambura

      You are an idiot, you didn t make any point related to the article either. If you want people to hear what you want to say, learn grammar,not grammer asshole. You are the one need to go back to school to learn how to spell words.

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      • 26 February 2012 23:08, by Mayar

        atleast you understand my point low life creature.

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  • 25 February 2012 23:41, by Marolditapei

    MAYAR,
    THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVICE.BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU WROTE "some people who still don’t know grammer for God seek.."

    YOU ALSO NEED TO WORK ON YOUR MISSPELLING PROBLEM BRO

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    • 26 February 2012 23:22, by Mayar

      Hahahahah! I know that, but i want to point it out, even if you miss spell words. People can still understand what you trying to say, but when you start putting randomly words togather with no clue, how would somebody understand your thesis statements?

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  • 26 February 2012 01:59, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

    Dinka Boy Is sick. NgunDeng words are true like Bible.
    Lack of knowledge of wisdom is a disease.
    Naath,Jieng no different in spiritual believe
    Christianity is to confuse African knowledge.
    Traditional wisdom is a key to present and future.
    Garang,Nyuon, Kanyiny Bol created different in Tribes.
    they end died like those they murdered. African wisdoms is a true Believes.

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    • 26 February 2012 05:42, by George Bol

      Nguetpiny,
      Are you happy now that George Athor died after you being his caused of rebellion while the guy has been a respected commander in the SPLA.People like you are curse!

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  • 26 February 2012 06:18, by Emporio

    Anyone who knows history, particularly the history of Europe, will, I think, recognize that the domination of education or of government by any one particular religious faith is never a happy arrangement for the people.
    Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail

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    • 26 February 2012 06:23, by Emporio

      Continuation ,,,,,,,,
      exclusion of religious principle.

      #Dinka promiseland ??#

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  • 26 February 2012 07:49, by Konan

    “God Will Punish Sudan” according to the ‘Good News Bible’ translation from Hebrew into English or “Prophecy Against Cush” according to the ‘New International Version.’ The word Sudan in Arabic language means BLACK PEOPLE. Brothers listen carefully this is not God’s revelation this pure racism sponsored by white people to justify exploitation, enslaving and killing of black people.

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    • 26 February 2012 13:07, by Mi diit

      Konan,

      Keep denying God’s revelation in Khartoum. We shouldn’t listen to you becoz you are jealous that we are God’s chosen people. God’s prophecy is proven true because it fits our people and our land.

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    • 26 February 2012 18:30, by Dhalaluaak

      Kanon,
      I think you don’t know any single Arabic word.
      The name Sudan came from the following words:BET AL SUD meaning " land of the black.That was at the time when the Arab came to Kush [ original name was Kush also mean black man ]please don’t play with our history, we know it better

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  • 26 February 2012 15:27, by Adam O.

    Hello,

    do you maybe know, if the Catholic Church is involved in the initiative?

    I will be grateful for information.

    Adam

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  • 23 June 2013 09:22, by Twentyone

    How was Ngundeng a satanist when he resisted the white devil, if he was, wouldn’t he have sold us out to them? "Use the two wholes above your nose to see the truth"

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