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Wikileaks: VP Taha & Gosh appear open to removing Sudan’s Bashir

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September 4, 2011 (WASHINGTON) – The Sudanese vice president Ali Osman Taha and former director of the National Intelligence and Security Services (NISS) Salah Gosh acknowledged that President Omer Hassan al-Bashir has become a liability in the wake of the International Criminal Court (ICC) move against him, a Wikileaks cable shows.

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Former director of the National and Intelligence Security Services (NISS) Salah Gosh (L), Sudanese president Omer Hassan al-Bashir (C), Sudanese Vice President Ali Osman Taha (R)

According to the November 2008 document, the then Sudanese foreign minister Deng Alor told the US charge d’affaires Alberto Fernandez of two separate meetings that he had had with Taha and Gosh following a visit to Khartoum and Juba by Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak.

A week prior to that, Alor himself had travelled to Cairo where he met with Mubarak, foreign minister Ahmed Aboul-Gheit and intelligence chief Omer Suleiman.

It was only four months after the ICC prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo presented his case against Bashir to the court’s judges and the ruling National Congress Party (NCP) was scrambling to fend off regional and international pressure but in the process seemed to have resulted also in divisions on how to deal with an indicted Bashir.

Taha asked Alor at a meeting on November 11, 2008 for more insight into the Egyptian view on Sudan by saying "Ahlak al-Misriyeen, keif [How are your people the Egyptians]?"?

Alor explained to Taha that "the Egyptians are genuinely worried about Sudan and think we are approaching the ICC issue in a wrong way".

The Sudanese Vice president reportedly agreed that the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) and the Egyptians are probably right about the ICC "but the President won’t listen to reason”.

Taha’s position contrasted sharply with what a senior government official toldSudan Tribune in July 2008 that the VP opposed handing two other ICC suspects “on the grounds of preserving Sudan’s sovereignty”.

But another official in Sudan’s presidency confided to Sudan Tribune that Taha was on board regarding extraditing former state minister of interior Ahmed Haroun and Ali Kushayb.

Alor also had a two-hour meeting with Sudan’s spy chief on November 12, 2008 who expressed fears that the Egyptians may be conspiring with officers within the Sudanese army to find a military replacement for Bashir.

"We both know that the warrant is coming, anything could happen here at any time." Alor quoted Gosh as saying.

"Can we allow the whole country to be destroyed because of one person?" Gosh said which prompted a question from Alor on who was he referring to and the spy chief admitted it was Bashir.

Alor responded by telling Gosh "You better take off your jacket because you must be wearing a wire".

GOSH PROMOTING TAHA TO TAKE OVER FROM BASHIR

Gosh called on Alor to have the SPLM engage more closely with Taha, "Ali Osman is a good person, he is a statesman” and suggested that he spend more time with him.

"Ali likes you. He is not as comfortable around Salva Kiir who doesn’t talk when he is angry." Gosh suggested to Alor that "both the SPLM and NISS don’t like the military," a suggestion that the the foreign minister rejected, adding "we are neutral in the SPLM. We made a deal with a party not an individual."

Gosh cryptically remarked that "some of our [NCP] people are cowards, they don’t want to take bold action." He noted that, "if something happens, [presidential assistant Nafie Ali] Nafie and [Finance minister Awad] Al-Jaz will not be factors, they will follow," the implication being that they will follow Taha.

Most observers in Khartoum believe that Taha has long been planning to take over from his boss with the aid of NISS chief as they belong to the same Shaygiyya tribe. The ICC warrant issued in March 2009 further fueled this speculation.

However, in August 2009 Bashir abruptly sacked Gosh and made him his security adviser before again firing him in April of this year. He was also stripped of his leadership positions at the NCP.

BASHIR UNDER PRESSURE

Alor said that during his visit to Cairo, the Egyptians conveyed to him that Bashir is increasingly isolated with only some of the senior professional officers in Sudan Armed Forces (SAF) loyal to Bashir, but they are not really in charge of most of the military.

Both Alor and Mubarak commiserated about the time when Bashir attempted to replace Gosh with retired Army General Al-Fatih Erwa, former Sudanese ambassador at the United Nations, issuing a decree reinstating him as a Lieutenant General in preparation for placing him as director of NISS.

But Bashir was confronted by VP Taha, Nafie, Al-Jaz, Minister of Defense Abdel-Rahim Mohamed Hussein and Presidential Affairs Minister Bakri Hassan Salih and told the Sudanese president that appointing Erwa was a party "red line" for them.

The Sudanese leader was forced to reverse his order after 24 hours.

The Egyptian president told Alor that "when a President makes a mistake, he corrects it but waits a while to show that he is in charge, Bashir couldn’t do that".

The US embassy cable notes that Erwa is a “secularist former head of security in the Nimeiri regime, who worked closely with the USG in moving thousands of Falasha Jews from Mengistu’s Ethiopia to Israel in the 1980s. Perceived as an "old army buddy" of Bashir, he also has clashed in the past with the civilian Islamists”.

EGYPTIAN CONCERNED ABOUT A PALACE COUP

Mubarak said that he advised his Sudanese counterpart that he should seek engagement with the ICC to find a way out.

"You need both horses, or you won’t win the race." Mubarak said before adding legal advisors told him that there is no way that Bashir can avoid an arrest warrant being issued.

He said that he had dispatched a legal expert, Mohyideen Surur, who participated in the writing of the Rome Statute, to try to talk sense to Khartoum, noting "the NCP will pay dearly by refusing to deal with the ICC. They have less than two months left to get out of this."

Mubarak added that no one will come to Sudan’s help on the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) to get an Article 16 deferral if the Sudanese don’t recognize the process. Alor said that Mubarak had delivered the same grim prognosis privately to Bashir on November 10 in Khartoum.

“Al-Bashir Miskeen [Bashir is a sore sight]", Mubarak said.

The Egyptian spy chief on the other hand told Alor that Cairo is "worried of the possibility of a palace coup" in the next few months in Khartoum. He referred to Bashir’s former ally Hassan al-Turabi as a possible instigator of such an attempt "but his chances are slim."

Suleiman said that Bashir is steadily and quietly losing control to a clique led by VP Taha, supported by NISS chief Salah Gosh. The two of them, in conjunction with Jaz and Nafie, are consolidating power.

He said Taha is using the Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Ali Karti to be his liaison with SAF. Karti, who used to be a Popular Defense Force (PDF) leader during the civil war has maintained his ties to much of the army.

Suleiman said that Nafie and Gosh are not security rivals but allies and said Finance Minister Al-Jaz oversees the party security apparatus.

"Even the police doesn’t really report to the Interior Minister" but through a private firm called the Nasr Company to Taha. Nonetheless Suleiman stressed that Egypt prefers Bashir or another army officer and fear that the "real Islamists" will take over soon in Sudan.

"We didn’t allow them in Egypt, we throw them in jail here, and we don’t want them next door. Taha is acceptable, for now, but he will change once he takes power,” the Egyptian spy chief said.

Following the toppling of Mubarak’s regime, Bashir lashed out at the deposed leader saying that Sudan has "endured a lot of harm [from both countries Egypt and Libya]".

Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi has lost his grip on power in the last few weeks but, unlike Egypt, through a peaceful uprising that turned into an armed rebellion.

Egypt and Libya were also the first countries to receive Bashir after the ICC judges issued an arrest warrant for him.

(ST)

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  • 6 September 2011 05:20, by Khartoum92

    Ethiopia Meles and Kiir will follow Gaddafi and Mubarak Sooner or later. Al bashir will only leave the presidency in the next election or the majority of the Sudanese population asked him to step down. So far the majority of the Sudanese population is behind him

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    • 6 September 2011 05:40, by Thon Anyaar

      Bashir had already made irrepairable damage to Sudan no matter what is done about Bashir, it wouldn’t make anything better!

      Sudan had already broken into pieces that will never be put together.

      Bashir will be very proud of himself of what he had done and for the records, South Sudan is pleased with the outcome.

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      • 6 September 2011 06:03, by Deng II

        I wish South Kordofen, blue Nile, and Darfur fight for their independent. Sudan is suck because its rule by son of pig.

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    • 6 September 2011 06:42, by Akol Liai Mager

      Ironically, the guys whose time is up are Al-Bashir, Al-Assad (Lion of Syria), Sheikh Ahmed of Qatar and Idris Debby. Their time to follow Gaddafi is long overdue.

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    • 6 September 2011 12:23, by Kamula

      For the blind people who are commenting without readinfg the whole page. It’s going to be big shame for you Khartoum92, It was who are misleading Bashir for ICC, I guess even your Names shown in the list, what are you going to do? what does President Kiir did? I am praying harder for the web not to show is comments of your in the public

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  • 6 September 2011 05:52, by Sundayw

    Wow..WikiLeaks is revealing some juicy stuff. I think SudanTribune is still a worthless news outlet that is run by Sudanese intelligence. It is easy to pay off editors so that they filter what is reaching the wider audience.

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    • 6 September 2011 06:01, by Jay

      Sundayw, don’t judge through assumption, you’ll convict the innocents! Judge based on facts.

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      • 6 September 2011 15:23, by Sundayw

        There are abundant facts upon which my arguments are based. First, ST is actively publishing articles that aim to destabilize the social cohesion in South Sudan. Second, it does not cover acts of repressiveness endured by ordinary Sudanese in Sudan today under the current regime. Third, did you know that most of the stories covered by ST are not based on field reporting and facts but siphoned from Sudan Media Centre which is the mouthpiece of the Sudanese intelligence? Consider a recent story about S. Sudan opening an embassy in Jerusalem as opposed to the Tel Aviv where Egypt and Jordan have their embassies. This story was directly from the SMC intelligence agents that currently run or pay off ST editors.

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  • 6 September 2011 06:04, by Alfredo christiani

    Dear Khartoum 92

    Kiir never committed any crimes in the south so he will be in the power until he completed two terms. Omer is a wanted person in ICC and at the same time is a wounded guy who doesn’t care about Darfurians, Nubians and Blue Nile peoples, so he can be easily remove in the power because he open too many frontline to himself ,

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  • 6 September 2011 07:18, by Space

    I like Deng Alor selection of words in that conversations. he seemed to have really understood the context. He is a wiseman though. However, politicians who just go politicking anyhow need to be careful or else they will throw themselves to hell

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    • 6 September 2011 10:18, by Dinka Dominated SPLA/M

      You are right Mr Space
      Deng Alor is very smart indeed and i quote

      "We both know that the warrant is coming, anything could happen here at any time." Alor quoted Gosh as saying.

      "Can we allow the whole country to be destroyed because of one person?" Gosh said which prompted a question from Alor on who was he referring to and the spy chief admitted it was Bashir.

      Alor responded by telling Gosh "You better take off your jacket because you must be wearing a wire".

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      • 6 September 2011 12:18, by mohammed ali

        This a very good example of why American diplomacy failed to predict what was going to happen in Egypt,Tunisia Lybia, Yemen and elswhere. The reason is simple : they listen to people like Den " Ahmed" alor, because he tells them what they want to hear and makes them happy!

        Sudan tribune title itself is misleading ! Taha and Gosh did not talk to the Embassy.Deng Alor did. The title should be : Deng Alor says : Taha and Gosh...bla...bla..

        Alor can have whatever dreams or wishful-thinking he wants; the fact remains that NCP and majority of Sudanese are united behind Basheer.

        Two major things boosted Basheer popularity : the ICC and the war which was started by Al Hilou in South Kordufan!

        Basheer will leave at the end of his term , and no uprising or revolution is going to take place.Remember this!

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    5His army is coming from a distant land, from the ends of heaven. The LORD is coming with the weapons of his fury to destroy the whole world.

    6Cry loudly, for the day of the LORD is near. It will come like destruction from the Almighty.

    7That is why every hand will hang limp, and everyone’s courage will fail.

    8They’ll be terrified. Pain and anguish will seize them. They’ll writhe like a woman giving birth to a child. They’ll look at one another in astonishment. Their faces will be burning red.

    9The day of the LORD is going to come. It will be a cruel day with fury and fierce anger. He will make the earth desolate. He will destroy its sinners.

    10The stars in the sky and their constellations won’t show their light anymore. The sun will be dark when it rises. The moon won’t shine.

    11I will punish the world for its evil and the wicked for their wrongdoing. I will put an end to arrogant people and humble the pride of tyrants.

    12I will make people harder to find than pure gold and human beings more rare than gold from Ophir.

    13I will make heaven tremble, and the earth will be shaken from its place when the LORD of Armies is angry. At that time he will be very angry.

    14They’ll be like hunted gazelle and like sheep with no one to gather them. Everyone will return to his own people and flee to his own land.

    15Whoever is found will be stabbed to death. Whoever is captured will be executed.

    16Their little children will be smashed to death right before their eyes. Their houses will be looted and their wives raped.

    17I’m going to stir up the Medes against them. They don’t care for silver and aren’t happy with gold.

    18But their bows will smash the youth. They’ll have no compassion for babies, nor will they look with pity on children.

    19Babylon, the jewel of the kingdoms, the proud beauty of the Chaldeans, will be like Sodom and Gomorrah when God destroyed them.

    20It will never be inhabited again, and no one will live in it for generations. Arabs won’t pitch their tents there. Shepherds won’t let their flocks rest there.

    21Desert animals will lie down there. Their homes will be full of owls. Ostriches will live there, and wild goats will skip about.

    22Hyenas will howl in Babylon’s strongholds, and jackals will howl in its luxurious palaces. Its time has almost come. Its days will not be extended.

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  • 6 September 2011 13:19, by Garang Deng

    Oh no! the massive leaks that has been leaked in this season by the socalled Wikileaks will make it lose touch with the receipients. This is why Zimbabwe terms it as a fictitious Organisation when it revealed that Mogabe is suffering from prostrate cancer and he will die within five years. I really losed sense of trust in what Assange and the team proclaime. They only want to create another world war.

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