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August 29, 2011 (JUBA) – A Dinka Bor community youth group has criticised the formation of South Sudan’s first independent cabinet, saying it has not given their community its deserved representation and called upon those appointed to refuse their positions.

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Dinka Bor dancers, Malakal, July 31, 2011 (ST)

In a letter signed by the Chairman of the Greater Bor Youth Association (GBYA), Juma Arok Maketh, and published in Juba on Monday by The Citizen newspaper, the group expressed their discontent with the formation of the government, claiming that the positions given to their community did not match its contribution during the liberation struggle.

Oil-producing South Sudan declared independence on July 9, after southerners overwhelmingly voted to secede from the north in a January referendum.

The buildup to its birth was marred by a wave of clashes between rival tribes and renegade militias, armed with weapons left over by decades of civil war with the north.

Kiir announced the cabinet late on Friday, naming ministers from a wider selection of areas and ethnic groups than the previous caretaker administration. He has promised that posts will be filled based on qualifications and not tribal affiliations.

The group said the Greater Bor community, which inhabit the three counties of Bor, Twic East and Duk, with the combined total population of 382,000, has been mistreated and under-represented in the government.

In their letter the group said indicative of the problem was the retirement of 17 generals from the police, headed by Makuei Deng, despite the fact that “officers older than most of them from other communities were not removed.”

They also claim that when members of the government have been dismissed they are generally replaced by members of the same ethnic group, which has not happened in the cases of Thon Leek and Rebecca Nyandeng, who are Dinka Bor.

They give the following examples as evidence of their claim: the former minister of finance, Arthur Akwen Chol, from the Dinka Aweil community, was replaced by Kuol Athian, from the same community in Northern Bahr el Ghazal state; and the former minister of Sudan People’s Liberation Army affairs, Deim Deng, who died in a plane crash on 2 August 2008, was replaced by Nhial Deng Nhial from the same community in Warrap state.

They claim that the only representation that the Dinka Bor community receives is with the minister of parliamentary affairs, Michael Makuei Lueth and Majak Agot, the deputy minister of defence.

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  • 30 August 2011 07:36, by Dr. Rightway

    I am very sorry that positions that should have been allocated to non-traitor: true liberators are now in the hands of nyam-nyam...let see if they will not turn South Sudan into Somalia. The non-intellectual Salva Kiirkuethping lual de stomach is omniously destroying the country using his kitchen sink strategies.
    Dr. Right...Peace upon the peaceful...

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    • 30 August 2011 08:24, by man koryom

      Dinka Bor youth should have keep quiet on this issue because it is complicated. They are 100% right because people like Malok Aleng and Dr. Majak Agoot should have not been dismissed with out any good reason. They should have keep quiet because there is no single minister from Unity State or they might be busy fighting their inner nyagatees. There are people in the government who are too corrupt and need to be remove without hesitation. Not every man can bring food to the table, only the hard workers can but all the lazies can eat once it is on the table. Please let lazies eat.

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      • 30 August 2011 08:46, by Quol Quot

        @Cadaai?o?
        "Beel" Twic is making you act like a blind man with a cane. I am saying this because you are repeating an issue of Bor and Twic on every website that has nothing to do with this matter. You copy and paste it several times just to proof your foolishness.

        You are acting like a fool.

        Go and advocate your matter somewhere else GarangJoe.

        You are trying to sell your book, but you have not realized that even if all the Twic people, young and old, women and men buy your book, you will still not be a millionaire.

        Twic is Twic and everybody knows.
        Why are you spreading hatred?

        Quol Quot

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        • 30 August 2011 14:30, by Force 1

          Economical control vs. government control let’s see who will win! Leaders from entire state of Jonglei should give up their positions in the government and focus on their state economical control.

          It will not take any long time to other two states follows in the Upper Nile region.

          The clowns now in the government of South Sudan think they are in control but they had no idea of what is coming.

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        • 30 August 2011 16:07, by Cadaai ?o?

          Quol Quot

          Historian and Identity Advocacy View:

          This is my advice to you Mr. Quol Quot, to me you seem like a good behavior person. But you need to add one thing in average IQ, and what is that? It is history and identity of people. If you need to be leader in future, you need to learn history, etc. Dinka Twic East, Dinka Bor and Dinka Duk are different tribes from one another.

          Few examples from these two tribes:

          Tï? (Dinka Twic East) ???m (Dinka Bor, and I did come across tribe who use "???m" in South Sudan yet.
          Wït (Dinka Twic Ea?t) Yuït (Dinka Bor)
          Kiir (Dinka Twic East) Ciir (Dinka Bor)
          L?g?k (Dinka Twic East) L?jik (Dinka Bor)
          Kuïn (Dinka Twic Ea?t) Cuïl (Dinka Bor)
          And you can go on and on.

          As I know in Dinka Twic Ea?t culture, "re?pect and di?cipline are some of their main characteristics the parents always taught their children, plu? hone?ty"

          Also I know the Dinka Twic East people are often take things in calm and steady until they reach there. No matter how the road is seem to be challenging, provide that the truth is shining at the end of tunnel.

          Furthermore, I think you have read their community message to President Kiir Mayardit. That message shows how the dignify and intelligent the Dinka Twic East people are in any public arena. Dinka Twi East people are like limstone in cooked and mixess grain when person eat them at night, he/she will identity it in his/her mouse. So the Dinka twic East people are going to be known soon than later. The government of South Sudan needs true rooted Dinka Twi person with integerity and honesty from Twi Dinka East people.

          To know more, asks anyone who has passed over the Dinka Twic East land during the movement, and he/she will tell you more about this people.

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          • 30 August 2011 16:11, by Cadaai ?o?

            Historian and Identity Advocacy View:

            This is my advice to you Mr. Quol Quot, to me you seem like a good behavior person. But you need to add one thing in average IQ, and what is that? It is history and identity of people. If you need to be leader in future, you need to learn history, etc. Dinka Twic East, Dinka Bor and Dinka Duk are different tribes from one another.

            Few examples from these two tribes:

            Tïng (Dinka Twic East) ???m (Dinka Bor, and I did come across tribe who use "ngem" in South Sudan yet.
            Wït (Dinka Twic Ea?t) Yuït (Dinka Bor)
            Kiir (Dinka Twic East) Ciir (Dinka Bor)
            Logok (Dinka Twic East) Lojik (Dinka Bor)
            Kuïn (Dinka Twic Ea?t) Cuïl (Dinka Bor)
            And you can go on and on.

            As I know in Dinka Twic Ea?t culture, "respect and discipline are some of their main characteristics the parents always taught their children, plus honesty"

            Also I know the Dinka Twic East people are often take things in calm and steady until they reach there. No matter how the road is seem to be challenging, provide that the truth is shining at the end of tunnel.

            Furthermore, I think you have read their community message to President Kiir Mayardit. That message shows how the dignify and intelligent the Dinka Twic East people are in any public arena. Dinka Twi East people are like limstone in cooked and mixess grain when person eat them at night, he/she will identity it in his/her mouse. So the Dinka twic East people are going to be known soon than later. The government of South Sudan needs true rooted Dinka Twi person with integerity and honesty from Twi Dinka East people.

            To know more, asks anyone who has passed over the Dinka Twic East land during the movement, and he/she will tell you more about this people.

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          • 30 August 2011 17:33, by Saba Saba

            During the war it was well known all over the country if you were a man from DINKA BOR and you say that you are civilian nobody believe it in Southern Sudan because of most us took arms and fought the Arabs. And it was true compare to our population we had the biggest number of people who joined the SPLA.

            Please my advice to Dinka BOR,you are brave people and the history will tell. The time for war is over. You had broght freedom to the people of Southern Sudan.

            This is time for eating and corruption, and let the EATERS eat, you know them even during the struggle they like to eat.

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            • 30 August 2011 19:57, by Amantiel Kem

              I wish people should be realistic when discussing public issues.@saba, when SPLM/A headed by Dinka Bor man does mean that all Dinka Bor took up arms and fought the Arabs then u won’t have seen so many of them well educated as today.Many of them were taken to school by the leadership and some went to carry out local trade and that why it was easy to find Dinka Bor hanging clothes in any small town when people were still in the busy.
              I can’t blame Kiir as a person beause he was taught that style of leadership by his master. Unlucky are those of us whose no State man has tested that leadership and that is why we are keeping quiet when our state is represented by two junior ministral posts as far as ranking of the ministral positions are concerned.For those of you who might have been in the bush with us here can simply answer the question of "Which particular community should be credited for the fruit of today in term of having not changed their objective of why they joined the movement,having settled the issues which were likely to destroy the movemnet leave alone the number of deaths they incured?"
              My question is , does it mean that we are used to mistreatment since the time of the movement update and that’s why we are keeping quiet? Are u guys used to holding lion share and that’s why you are restless? Remember that time will come soon for all those to change. time will come for all of us to know that when one sleeps hungry today then he/she will eat tomorrow. time will come for us to know that there are so many tribes in The Republic of South Sudan that if one tribe was satisfied yesterday then tomorrow will be the turn of other tribe till we shall know how to share the smallest thing among those many tribes without greed and complain.

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        • 31 August 2011 07:15, by Good Citizen

          First of all COUNT your selves as Dinka, NOT, crying like a moron; Oh we are Dinka Fat Ass, we are Dinka Big ASS, we are Dinka FUCK, We are Dinka SEX, WE are Dinka FOOD, we are Dinka IDIOTS etc. other communities/tribes have various sub-sections or clans within their wider ethnic groups, why are they not complaining? u better understand this u good for nothing creatures. Bari community have as many clans as there are in Otuho, Pojulu,Kakwa, Mundari, Toposa, Didinga, Acholi, Nuer, Fertit, Balanda, Kresh, shilluk, etc, why do they not demand for clan tribe representation let alone their various clans? are u seeing how idiotic and moronic you are,monkey sheepish?
          don’t look at the government as the source of FOOD! rely on yourself like good people of Equatoria..that way you will help your sorry self.

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          • 31 August 2011 09:47, by Antigraft

            you are right good citizen
            But the truth is that, there are massive differenc between these fools as they describe themselves as dinka fuck, dinka criminal etc. these are just two sides of one coin. the different is that while barelgazl circuncise, the bor do not but thugery and criminology is their tradtion. Even though you change salva with anther dinka from bor that will not end looting and theft. These people are all food lovers and will never sign up for any good. they view governent institutions as their family belongings but not as national belongings. these tribe is a curse on South Sudn they are many for nothing, fools....

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          • 31 August 2011 14:16, by jamuse

            Dear Good Citizen,

            You should write like wise man instead of joking like child in clay soil.It is upto Dinka Bor and People of Unity state( Nuer and Dinka Padang) to submit their complaints to the government in good manner as the did.
            Another point is also for you not to write incorrect informations in this web site.to warn you, do write responsibly .If you don,t know history of Nuer , then keep away from web site.I Know all clans of Nuers and their location starting from ancestors homeland Bentieu (Kuiicheg in Nuer Dialect) to present homes .
            Learn from this table and I can scan scripts to you.
            1-Gajok Clan -Nassir,Wulang Diew-Gach and Torpuot Town
            2-Gaguang Clan - Mading-Gaguang town
            3-Bul and Lek clan - Bentiu Town
            4-Gajak Clan -Mawuit, Pagak,mangok,Bilpam and jokou
            5-Pan-gak Clan -pan-gak in Jonglei
            6-Lou Clan -Akobo,Ayod,uror and nyirol

            iam directing you to read more informations in Nguendeng books and Latjuor state book.This books are open to any southerner regardless of his/her tribe.Nuer is Big tribe that can not be insert into cowards community like kakwa and all nonsense/rubbish you try to tell us.They ran to Uganda only during struggle for independents.
            brave Equatorians men took weapons in Bonga military training Zone in Ethiopia and that was recognized group called ZALZAL Batt:And I can mention some for you.
            1-Cdr-Ismail Asaya.
            2-Cdr-James Wanni Igga
            3-Cdr -Pirri
            4-And list goes long and longer.

            Never attempt to mess during writing, Write what you know and leave whatever you got no idea.

            Jesh Ameer from Leewa -Itifather(Bonga-Ethioipia) since 1986- todate in SPLM/A.

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      • 30 August 2011 11:00, by panda

        Hi Man
        I really agreed with you Dink Bor shouldn’t compliant about the position,Kiir Government knows Dinka Bor very well they are not complicated people they can understand the situation.Let make change is not about the tribes to be rep in the government how ever is capable in the position should have it.I’m not quite happy with Dinka youth compliant.

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    • 30 August 2011 08:27, by Bonaparte Lal Wieu

      Brothers complain is not bad but what we need to know is that, South Sudan is inhabit by more than 400 ethnics groups which have right like any Dinka , Nuer and the rest of the group in South Sudan the issue of saying that Dinka Bor is not well represented in the government it is not logic why do you complaint alone what of the rest who are not represented ? Some of you guys are holding commissions and the rest of the government institutions
      Please brother let keep quiet and build our nation this issues of representation will not bring any development to our community let support any one who will work but not someone who is related to us by blood or somebody from our sate what we need is development
      If it is a matter of contribution during struggled period some communities are not represented now in the government but they were the heart of the SPLA/M , some were against but they are the one holding keys position. so please let forget of all those and build our nation for future generation.
      And thanks.

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      • 30 August 2011 10:36, by Maperdit

        Mr.I agree with you but on factual basis Kiir turned to marginalise his fellow Dinka, imagine out of 58 position kiir gave only two ministerial postion to Northern Bahr El Gazhal state Aweil is that really fair, Mading Aweil people could have been the first people to critise the formation of the cabinets but they remain quite for the reason known to them. i truely believe the say which said, a person will know the important of his buttock when there is wound on it. shame on Kiir with his Nuer and nyamnyam government.

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    • 30 August 2011 08:32, by Abikach Ayuel

      u DAMNed bunch of cowards ! Whom have u liberated while the entire community refuged in neighbouring nations ! Don’t u know that we have over 60 tribes ? Do u believe our government will have 60 ministries ? Think like nationalists than just being noìse ! Don’t u think on how u will reconcile with Murle and Nuer so that they pity u to return to your homes ? Damn u all sons of cowards !

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      • 30 August 2011 10:56, by Maperdit

        Ayuel, you are wrong 100%, people are not represent in the nation government by tribe if you are not fool, people are being represent by states not by damn tribe you are talking about, we have nine states, do you thinks the seats are fairly allocated to all these nine states. Aweil have only two ministerial post, no even a deputy minister position, is it right? mading Bor and Mading Aweil will form their own Government and we shall see who will rule.

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        • 30 August 2011 16:29, by Abikach Ayuel

          u r damned part of my tribe that I will live to see their future ! haeti librators not recognised ! i think the writer of this article happen to have mistaken his words of librators of south Sudan instead of food librators in Kakuma refugee camp ! rediculous no shame on u actually nor do I need to blame u !

          First let me correct u that South sudan has 10 states not 9 as u cooked in your ill_mind ! Hope it could be good if we put aside all tribal representations in the governmment and let us build our nation first to make sure the displaced Bor are resettled in their mother land in order to avoid being refugees thier lives !

          Another issue and of important, not everybody that can be satisfied by the governmnet that is why we have oppositions, so it is quite healthy that u take front seat oppsition to convince Junubin that u r real Southerners and need to be recognised!

          Do u really think like humans if I may ask ? reasons carefully u were displaced not because that u r Garang’s tribemen but because of too much pride that u people display in front of public !

          Hope u will learn much from this comment u damned elite cockroaches ! ! !

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          • 31 August 2011 02:55, by Dhalaluaak

            Mr.Abikach Ayuel,
            I think you wasn’t part of our struggle supporter but your quirks shows that was busy quisling around among other quirkmeisters at that time.Your quirkalities has showed us that you are from Warrap[looters who let 358 love one and a dear southerners perished of hunger],While your goons and goofy quirkmeisters hold hundred of million dollars in their account else where around the world.

            I have known some of your type for years.You love stealing,looting,robbing and raping without shame.Who are you to talk here?A thief cannot agree that he had stolen anything even when caught.Even your State[ Warrap ],we have heard a lot of complaints because your western Gogrial had marginalized the East Gogrial.How stupid is that to you?

            Can you restore the lost lives[ 358 Warrapian ].
            Salva Mathok had stolen huge money and wrapped them in side a burial coffin,saying that it is an Ugandan dead body being taken back to Uganda for burial.He now still maintained good position.What a hoax is going in this kitchen?where everybody is a cook.

            some of my colleagues here distance themselves from politics because they cannot afford to endure the same their leaders had brought home to them.

            If the movement was headed by you people,we would fall into the dish long time ago.How many times you plotted to kill Dr.Garang?You have been trying to take his life away untimely but God didn’t let you succeeded doing because he want him fish his work like Moses did with the exodus.

            you cannot compare Dinka Bor with other tribes, who were the tools used by our former[Jallaba].They are heroes to the Jallaba but are slaughterers and murderers to us in the South.
            What battalion in the SPLA doesn’t host any Dinka Bor SONs?
            Unless you don’t know anything about the SPLA Battalion.

            You talked about Dinka Bor being refugees because of pride.Please contact the following Key leaders of the SPLA/M Nasir Faction and ask them why they attacked Bor civilian then come back to answer my questions.The pride Bor is a courage to do good things to the nation for instance,the Bor Youth to sung this song whenever they are preferring themselves to go to Bilpam;Ayen aca rothnom ku la Bongo ran dong bangu loi.That pride led a lot of us to Bonga to served our nation marginalization,which you are now doing so repeatedly without shame or whatsoever.Your skunky habits are always like that in public arena.

            When Justice Makuei Lueth was dealing with you according to law,you defended your looters and corrupt ones and as a result he was removed from justice post.There are many more bad things associated with you looters.

            You even lack any respect of God among when you denied the dinka Bor church missionaries to just pray for healing and peace among ourselves and the nation we loved so dearly,but your evil ones kicked them out and eventually God himself Sent a strong dream to his excelency Honorable president Kiir Kuethpiny about,who kicked out church missionaries.

            Let such robbers,looters and thieves continue their game until their time is out.

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    • 30 August 2011 08:40, by Kwaja

      Dear Dr. Right,

      It is shameful for a Dr to write such a comment, nyam - nyam are you pigs (Animal Farm)and competent to do the work not running after positions and posts, bear in mind that all of us fought and voted for the freedom of this Nation (fighting doesn’t mean with guns only). Now who will turn this nation (RSS) in to Somali? who were the rebels and renegades after the elections? Is there any of Equatorian politicians who went to bush or joined/supported any of the rebels because of rigged elections? or not given a promised Position? where areas are volatile and in secured among the ten states?

      In general where did the first movement started? and was the leader? It was first headed by Equatorian (Joseph Lagu and others you them) and started in Equatoria (Torit). Just follow our foot steps that is how kids are grown and taken care of.

      An advice that we should not build and create grudges within our communities, we should be the leading eyes to the betterment pf this nation.

      Thanks and Good bless you all and bless RSS.

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      • 30 August 2011 16:26, by Malek David

        Mr, kwaja, plis being in the water doesn’t mean u bath,liberation was begun in Equatoria, die in Equatorai and buried by equotoria, kiir is Psychological affected by the leadership which he wasn’t expect to have so is now planning 4 next election to come again but with aimless. Dinka Bor and Upper Nile deserve any share from the government bcoz their participation was stand firm. I am not Dinka nor Jikany, but we tough to give right to whoever claim it. otherwise if u given food eat it and u don’t deserve it.

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      • 31 August 2011 07:17, by Good Citizen

        First of all COUNT your selves as Dinka, NOT, crying like a moron; Oh we are Dinka Fat Ass, we are Dinka Big ASS, we are Dinka FUCK, We are Dinka SEX, WE are Dinka FOOD, we are Dinka IDIOTS etc. other communities/tribes have various sub-sections or clans within their wider ethnic groups, why are they not complaining? u better understand this u good for nothing creatures. Bari community have as many clans as there are in Otuho, Pojulu,Kakwa, Mundari, Toposa, Didinga, Acholi, Nuer, Fertit, Balanda, Kresh, shilluk, etc, why do they not demand for clan tribe representation let alone their various clans? are u seeing how idiotic and moronic you are,monkey sheepish?
        don’t look at the government as the source of FOOD! rely on yourself like good people of Equatoria..that way you will help your sorry self.

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      • 31 August 2011 07:56, by Dhalaluaak

        Kawaja,
        you are wrong,Anya-nya 1 was not started with Joseph Lagu Yanga.BUT joint in, in 1963[ he defacted from Sudan defense force in 1963 and joint the rebels
        The movement was then split into two factions as:SANU INSIDE under WILLIAM DENG NHIAL and SANU OUT SIDE UNDER JOSEPH ODUHO as they convened at AGUNDRI at CONGO BORDER.WHILE IN 1967,they formed SOUTH SUDAN PROVISIONAL GOVERNMENT[ SSPG ].
        AGREY JADEN THE FIRST SOUTHERN SUDANESE UNIVERSITY GRADUATE WAS UNANIMOUSLY ELECTED PRESIDENT IN ORDER TO BRING TOGETHER ALL SOUTHERNERS UNDER ONE LIBERATION MOVEMENT.THE STRUCTURE OF SSPG WAS AS FOLLOWS:
        1.AGREY JADEN-PRESIDENT [ EQUATORIA ]
        2.KAMILO DHOL KUAAC- VICE PRESIDENT [ BAR AL GHAZAL ]
        3.AKUOT ATEM DE MAYEN-MINISTER OF DEFENCE [ UPPER NILE ]
        4.GORDON MOURTAT MAYEN-MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS [ BAR ]
        5.ELIA LUPE -MINISTER OF INTERIOR [ EQUATORIA ]
        6.CLEMENT MOSES-MINISTER OF FINANCE [ EQUATORIA ]
        7.BALIETH KUAK-MINISTER OF CABINET AFFAIRS [ UPPER NILE ]
        8.GABRIEL KAU ATER- MINISTER OF JUSTICE
        9.OTHERS,,,,,,,,,,,,,

        IN ORDER TO BALANCE AN EQUAL REPRESENTATION AMONG THE THREE REGIONS OF:UPPER NILE,BAR AL GHAZAL AND EQUATORIA, THE FOLLOWING POSTS WERE DISTRIBUTED AS:
        1.GENERAL EMILO TAFFENG-VETTERAN OF TORIT UPRISING WAS
        NAMED COMMANDER IN CHIEF [ RQUATORIA ]
        2.ALI GWATTALA[ ALSO VET OF TORIT NAMED-DEPUTY COMMANDER
        IN CHIEF
        3.JOSEPH LAGU YANGA [ GRADUATE FROM SUDAN MILITARY COLLEGE
        NAMED CHIEF OF STAFF [ EQUATORIA ]
        4.PAUL AWEL RUAI-NAMED DEPUTY CHIEF FOR UPPER NILE PROVINCE
        5.EMMANUEL ABUUR NHIAL- NAMED DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF FOR
        BAR AL GHAZAL
        6.FREDERICK BRIAN MAGOT DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF FOR
        EQUATORIA

        I LOVE HISTORY VERY MUCH AND SO I DON’T HAVE MUCH TIME TO FEED YOU MORE ABOUT WHO WERE LEADERS OF TORIT REBELLION/UPRISING.

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      • 31 August 2011 14:44, by jamuse

        What is the achievement of Torit(Anya-Anya 1 )?.It can remained as unusefull story in people minds because it was lead by a man from cowards people.Food lovers .
        about present crisis in the whole S Sudan, is not issue for any tribe to be blame but, individuals are responsible.If so, Equatorians killed their minister in Juba.
        Thanks.

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        • 31 August 2011 14:57, by Antigraft

          Dr. Garang also killed Dr. Martin Majer, so dinka also killed their big Doctor shame on them.

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    • 30 August 2011 08:41, by Jeti

      Dinka Bor Community has a very genuine reason to complain to Mr. President. When it comes to educational qualifications, Dinka Bor is also there. Dinka Bor Community, please keep your fingers crossed and watch what Mr. President is doing. Just relax!!

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      • 30 August 2011 09:39, by gotutu

        JETI YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY WRONG
        HOW MANY DINKA BOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT EMPLOYED WHO ARE HOLDING DEGREES OR MASTERS.
        INSTEAD THEY SAID THEIR DOCUMENT HAS BEEN BURNT DURING THE WAR AS IF DINKA BOR HAS BEEN SAT ON FIRE .
        THESE ARE LAME COMPLAINS
        DEATH TO TWICE EAST COUNTY .

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        • 30 August 2011 11:42, by watchout

          gottu son of bitch
          I think you are not familiar with Dinka Bor interm of intellectual, they are not count like the way some communities count their people
          But I am not blaming Kiir for what he did, how are you expecting him to employe those who will challenge him of his low intelligence quotient and his plan is not about development but only to grab money that is why he employed those who will fear him.
          I really accepted what someone said that Bhar-el-ghazal are not leaders exception of stealing, looting and foolishness.

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      • 30 August 2011 14:28, by Madit

        Bor brothers, i would like to advice you not to bring cattlekeepers to world politicians this will be so difficult to manage them with cattleheads later on in future

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      • 30 August 2011 20:31, by Dut Monybor

        Thank Jeti,for your comment .We shall not keep quite till we should be given our in the government.

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      • 30 August 2011 20:38, by Dut Monybor

        Hi Jeti ,thank you very much indeed for your commend but We shall not accepted that post of assistant minister and parliamentary affair (watchman of parliament). we need one vital position in this government .

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    • 30 August 2011 08:44, by Quol Quot

      @Cadaai?o?
      "Beel" Twic is making you act like a blind man with a cane. I am saying this because you are repeating an issue of Bor and Twic on every website that has nothing to do with this matter. You copy and paste it several times just to proof your foolishness.

      You are acting like a fool.

      Go and advocate your matter somewhere else GarangJoe.

      You are trying to sell your book, but you have not realized that even if all the Twic people, young and old, women and men buy your book, you will still not be a millionaire.

      Twic is Twic and everybody knows.
      Why are you spreading hatred?

      Quol Quot

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      • 30 August 2011 09:00, by monyjang chol

        QUOL AMOOK!!.

        ’RUENY’ BOR IS MAKING YU TO STEAL THE NAME OF DINKA TWIC EASTS TO ABANDON THIER TRUE IDENTITY FOR YOUR BARBARIC NAME OF BOR WHICH MEAN COWARD THIEVES WHO SOLD THIER CHILDREN TO MURLE.SHUT THE FUCK UP YU SON OF THIEF FROM MADINGBOR AND LEAVE CADDAI ALONE.

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        • 30 August 2011 09:46, by gotutu

          DEAR USELESS MONYJANG CHOL
          YOU ACT LIKE A KID .
          HOW CAN YOU CALLED SOMEBODY TO BE QUOL AMOOK.
          YOU KNOW HOW TO READ AND WRITE BUT YOU ARE IDIOTE
          THIS SHOW THAT YOU ARE FROM TWICE .

          SHAME ON GREEDY TWICE

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        • 31 August 2011 03:03, by Dhalaluaak

          Monyjangchol,
          The Bor means - flood in english dummy.Coward is called Arioc low minded dull thief.You are masters of thievery work.

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    • 30 August 2011 09:02, by Josh

      No wasting of time, Dear Bor take gun and go on to fuck Kiiri community. You are men with Dick, why do you complain like babe in bed. I never seen usuless people like Dinka before in my life. Shut up your ass if you’ve got nothing to talk about.

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      • 30 August 2011 09:53, by gotutu

        TO JOSE
        These are fool from Twice East county.
        they are greedy and want to control powers like when Garang was running the movement with advise from Nyandeng and Malok(formally GUET ALENG FROM Angakuei clan of baidit)

        how can awise man fight his fellow brothers for seat of corruption.
        take your gun to fight than ran like George Athor

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      • 30 August 2011 23:35, by bior angeth

        Hi Mr. Josh, not everything is done by gun barrel, you can correct a man mistake by pointing out that mistake. Second we need democracy; so if you see your leader is not producing anything, campaign to vote him out of power. Thanks.

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    • 30 August 2011 10:50, by Abraham Ayom

      Hi Dinka brother of Bor, the assumption is that dinka presentation in the cabinet is already more that 60% and note that out of the ten states for the republic of south sudan Dinka are within seven state. Only the three states are non dinka. The Cabinet that was formed will not marked the end of the position for the government, more will go for the ambassador positions, commissions and others.

      But the reality is that our president has given out the key ministries to the Equatorian, Nuer and Shilluk I don’t know why?

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    • 30 August 2011 11:32, by Maperdit

      Abosultely right,Dinka Bor youth deserves to criticise the move because it,s not wisely done.alot of states are not that all represent, mading Bor and mading Aweil are completely not consider in the current cabinets form by kiir kuethpiny lual.

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    • 30 August 2011 13:43, by WendeMajok

      Intelligence Vs Ignorance

      I won’t blame Kiir Mayardit on the selection but the brains behind his jurisdiction (I meant advisory team). It’s true to complain but too late because it would make sense if you/we complain to a wise man.

      I disagree with Kiir’s decision of saying that he nominated the Ministers according to their qualifications, funny uh!! I absolutely agree with Ariambek on this matter, if its qualification academically, my own research is telling me that Greater Equatoria lead, followed by Greater Jonglei State and the sequence goes on the other hand, the tail is Warrap State instead.

      Let’s be realistic, it won’t make sense if we point finger on the individuals. The Government is already formed whether on tribal or clan sectors. Let’s wait and see how its going to work, I have a feeling that Kiir tried his possible means to curve down corruption but missed to see the corrupt figures.

      I am a typical sand-of-soil but would love to see our country rising not drowning like it’s sinking as we talk.

      South Sudan will be a suitable place to be if these old/dudes who are in power currently goes to rest in peace.

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    • 30 August 2011 15:10, by JohnGarangFreedom

      Dinka Twi East Civil Group message to H.E President Kiir Mayardit.

      The following message our brother book.

      It is title: "Dr. John Garang de Mabior: The undiscovered Stories About Man Behind South Sudanese’ Freedom. Author: Garang de Faith & Truth.

      "We the people of Twic Dinka East Youth are not part of this protest, if there is any Dinka Twic east persons in there. We know that, he/she might be ill, crazy or being the slave or follower of Dinka Bor ideal of messes, bad characteristics whom they were born with as an indication of qualify public ethical virtues. To assure you Mr. President, as our history has been shown it, the people known as Twi Dinka East are not evils doing people, because they often know how to handle things professional. Acting like child is not theirs behaviors.

      Second, in last few months the Tuic Dinka East people are fighting with Dinka Bor indirectly for Twi ancestor identity whom they claim that the Dinka Twic East is sub-tribe of Dinka Bor instead of us being the major sub-tribe of Dinka as whole. So war is now going on. That was one of the elements allow them to deceive Dr. Riek Machar to make unorganized apology so that they will get credit and history as they planing. But we the people of Dinka Twi are not going to be deceived or being take like fool. That’s thing will not happen in our watches.

      Third, as Twic East County we have this people already in high positions of South Sudan government:

      (1) Atem de Garang in higher position
      (2) Lual Achuek Deng still there
      (3) Majak Agoot in deputy position were he has seniority
      (4) Atem Yak Atem
      (5) We believe Nyandeng will be there
      (6) Malok as well will be in another high position in government
      (7) Aguer Manyang
      (8) Jurkuch de Barach
      (9) Bior da Ajang
      (10) Chol de piowei
      (12) And many more in your administration positions and some are coming.

      We the Dinka Twi/Twic East people are so proud of your excellent job well done Mr. President.

      Garang background links to earliest SPLM/A top five leaders

      “It is not flesh and blood but the heart which makes us fathers and sons.” Johann Schiller
      “Always continue the climb. It is possible for you to do whatever you choose, if you first get to know who you are and are willing to work with a power that is greater than ourselves to do it.”
      By Ella Wheeler Wilcox

      The following is the descriptions about the new discovery in regards to Late Dr. John Garang links to the others earliest five leaders of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) top five military Commanders, particularly when it comes to their backgrounds related to tribe’s identifications. And I have no idea if they were knew it back then or not, that they were all from Dinka or Jieng tribe. However, I think Dr. Garang was so sure about Late Cdr. Kerubino Kuanyin Bol and late Cdr. Arok Thon Arok that they were from two branches of Dinka Twic East and Dinka Twic West (Mayardit), and at the same I believe he knew that Dr. Kiir was from Dinka Twic, but I am not so sure Dr. Garang knows that Dr. Kiir was related to him through the roots of the other Dinka or Jieng Twic/Tuic West (Mayardit).
      Anyway in my view, when it comes to his knowledge about late Cdr. William Nyuon Bany and Cdr. Salva Kiir Mayardit relationship to him through sub-tribes of Dinka (Jieng) Twic East and Dinka Twic West. I think that time he didn’t even aware of these intriguing links, except, he may have known them then as those two guys were having Jieng’s (Dinka) backgrounds only up to that point, in whatsoever. By the way, the bottom-line is this; they were all having the same traits or bonds of kinship through Dinka tribe backgrounds. So ahead are all the top five commanders of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) leadership in earliest days of the movement; they were having the unbelievable story related to their backgrounds in which the majority of South Sudanese (Sudanese) people didn’t even have knowledge during their lifetimes or in another hand when all of them were still alive.
      However, for me to be short and brief about the explanations, they were all closes and related in blood kinships through two branches of Jieng tribe called Dinka Tuic East (Jonglei State) and of course, the other Dinka Tuic Mayardit of the West Nile River (Warrap State.) So here are those leaders by their names and positions they were holding when they were all together under one well-known umbrella of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) movement in 1980s and the earliest years of the 1990s:
      • Chairman of the SPLM/A, C-in-C late Dr. John Garang de Mabior;
      • Deputy Chairman of the SPLM/A, late Cdr. Kerubino Kuanyin de Bol;
      • Lt. Commander of the SPLM/A, late William Nyuon de Bany;
      • Lt. Commander of the SPLM/A, Salva Kiir de Mayardit;
      • Lt. Commander of the SPLM/A, late Arok Thon da Arok.

      First of all, ladies and gentlemen, you may not believe what I have discovered about these earliest top five commanders of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) leaderships’ backgrounds, it is an intriguing and fascinating story you couldn’t even believe I think, but the truth of matter is; they were all blooded linked together under two sub-tribes of the Dinka tribe called Twic East and Twic West (Mayardit). As a story goes and at the same time what the names had shown it to you above, these two sub-tribes are related to one another through many characteristics such as: intelligence, calm, leadership, honesty, tolerant, good behaviors (attitudes) people, dignity, accountability, hospitality, cares, tactic, unselfish, patience, stands for truth, use of more diplomats than violent, integrity, commitment (perseverance), trustworthy, fairness when it comes to human being life, respect, they are also fantastic when it comes to the logistical way of distributing things in a fair and balance way (manner) to everybody, plus many other values and beliefs of their own principled (disciplined) culture, etc.
      Back to the topic, would you believe this fascinating story or wouldn’t you? Please takes a deep breath my friend if you don’t believe this story; the story is factually 100 percentages true story I am talking about here. And I know some of you out there may be pessimistic or being certain kind of doubts if I may add that on top, especially when it comes to me being concentrated on two Commanders like late Commander William Nyuon Bany plus our currently President of the republic of South Sudan, Dr. Salva Kiir Mayardit. Who is also holding the position of the First Vice president of the republic of Sudan.
      By not overdue the explanations, I am going to put their links together below under an individual chain of descriptions, here are those links: As we all may have had known already that, late Dr. John Garang de Mabior and late Arok Thon Arok are from Dinka (Jieng) Tuic (Twic) East tribe in Jonglei state (formerly known as the Upper Nile region before the separations of the country into two nations/states) in South Sudan.
      However, before hand, you don’t have to be confused my friend about this tribe (Dinka or Jieng Twic/Tuic East) identity correction between this claims and the original misleading issues of their identity misidentification during the movement (Civil war times in Sudan) and/or after the British Empire has given Sudanese’ independence in 1956. That was the time, whereas the Jieng Twic East tribe identity became like parts of Jieng Bor tribe rather than being considered as a stand alone and/or an independent branch tribe within the Dinka tribe of South Sudan or Sudan before present times. In which to me at that particular days, it was an erroneous or unfortunate misidentification of Jieng Tuïc East tribe identity back then, but this correction is being done at present moment. It is an appropriate times for everybody to be called upon to respect and totally adore to corrections of this tribe identity’s roots and aligned it with their truly tribe of the Dinka Twic East.
      All this information must not be taken simply like this is an Author views alone, which is not. It must be accepted that through a mutual respectful way and integrity, this correction is also adherents to Dinka Twic East’s historians, scholars, class act colleagues, intellectuals, Twic East County people, and everyone else who have a Jieng Twic (Tuic) East people with deep and acquainted roots in history of the Dinka Twic East traits.
      So I am here to represent the interests (views) of an entire community of the Dinka Twic East people who are daring to correct their own and truly identity. It is one of the priority goals (components) God (Nhialic) Himself given me to conquer it over the rest of my life on earth. Because Dr. Garang didn’t have time back then at the time of civil war unrest in Sudan, and of course, his immediate or unfortunate death before he would have been able to corrects this identity is a main reason why I was given a green-light by Creator to do so to my fellow tribe mates. Again, it was one of the reasons why God (Nhialic) Himself allows me to do it to my people of the Jieng Twic East, just simple as that.
      Furthermore, this issue is one of the main core missions God (Nhialic) wants me to strengthen for His people of the Dinka Twic/Tuic East community. And you are advised to respect and being adored by their requests for the well being or mutual respect based on rights of truth acceptance under the morale code of ethics (moral philosophy) and class acts.
      By the way, if you didn’t even know that there was another main branch of Dinka (Jieng) so-called Twic (Tuic) East after Sudan gained its independence in 1956; please it is time for you out there to correct this tribe’s identity. And if you still don’t believe me about this correction of mine regarding to the Dinka Twic East identity. With due respects of your opinions or thoughts, I don’t think there will be any other places on earth where you will get a better truth or evidence than what I had been explained inside this book. There is no way even God (Nhialic) Himself knows it, plus the majority of people in South Sudan know that the Dinka Twic East is an independent tribe in Jieng (Dinka). The Dinka Twic East has its own language (Dialect), and at the same time these people are having their own distinguishing characteristics (Traits) from other Dinka (Jieng) Bor in which sometimes most people miss associated with.
      And to people who may not know about the earliest SPLM/A Deputy chairman, who is also back then or late Commander Kerubino Kuanyin Bol, if you didn’t know this guy background; starting from today you have to remember that, he is from Dinka Twic Mayardit of the West Nile River (White Nile) side, currently located in Warrap State, South Sudan. It is the first place where most of the Clans who made up the Jieng Tuic (Twic) East tribe of the Jonglei State, South Sudan came from some centuries ago. That is where the majority of the clans came to the existing land of the Dinka Twic East people inhabited as of today at the east bank of the River Nile (White Nile/Toc) basin. In their own mother tongue, they call the River Nile as “Toc.”
      Over either sides of the River Nile (White Nile) where Dinka Twic East and Dinka Twic West (Mayardit), both cousin tribes now each has its own Adiang Clan (Wut), in places where the Dinka Twic East and the Dinka Twic West people had been occupied respectively for centuries since both tribes separated from each other through the unknown reason(s).
      Alright, what about Dr. Salva Kiir Mayardit? Who is currently owned the position of the Presidency of the republic of South Sudan. And at the same he is holding the position of the First Vice President of the republic of Sudan. If you don’t know about him, Dr. Kiir is from the Dinka tribe of Rek in Warrap State, South Sudan. However, what way he is being linked to the other two branches of the Dinka Twic East (Jonglei State) and the Dinka Twic West (Warrap State)? Well, that is a very interesting question to ask; of course, Kiir mother is from Dinka Twic West (Mayardit) now located in Warrap State (Formerly known as Bhar el Ghazal region). I think that is a quick and simply answer concerning where President Salva Kiir Mayardit has a chained relationship or links with the others top four of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) earliest leadership body.
      Anyway, apart from individualism explanations, these leaders were all linked to these two branches of the Dinka Twic East and Dinka Twic West (Mayardit). Again, briefly, they were all Dinka (Jieng) guys.
      Finally, what about the background of late Commander William Nyuon Bany? Where to go to question as well, he also has roots from the Jieng (Dinka) tribe; especially the part of the Dinka sub-tribe where his roots or chains being linked to, is Dinka Twic East of the Jonglei State, South Sudan. It is the same sub-tribe of Jieng where both late Dr. John Garang de Mabior and late Arok Thon Arok respectively are from. But in what way? Well, the following explanations would be a little quite intriguing why he got a related root from Dinka’s branch so-call the Dinka Twic East? For instance, in the earliest years of the twenty-centuries, there was a big flood over the Dinka or Jieng Twic (Tuic) East land in Jonglei State (obviously known as the Upper Nile region during pre-eras of Sudan’s separations into two states or countries) in South Sudan. The disaster was caused by the big flood as people call it as “Amol thith (Run de Paw??r) in Dinka/Jieng Twic (Tuic) East tribe and Nuer or Naath is being called Pilual” in their mother tongue (Tho? de Twic/Tuïc East). That means it was the year of calamity of flood in Dinka Twic East’s land. As I had been told, the flood was a devastating disaster that did take a lot of people lives; livestock and everything else have been uncountable in those days. Did I say everything? If I did, I do mean anything people of the Jieng Tuïc East lives were depending on as valuable and basic needs for life were wipeout. It is one of the biggest disasters that had over passed the Dinka Twic East land; I think it should be aligned with the disaster of the Nov 15, 1991 in their land.
      So over that period, most of the Jieng (Dinka) Tuic East people did migrate to many places like Nuer’s land sub-tribes like Lou, Gaweer, Jikany East, Fangak, etc., and some people even went as far as other sub-tribes of the Jieng lands such as: Jieng Abiliang in Upper Nile State (back then known as the Upper Nile region), Jieng Padang (Padeng) at the moment located in Jonglei State (back then as well known as the Upper Nile region) within the same location where the Jieng Tuic East currently residing too, some people even went to nearby bordering tribes of Jieng like Jieng Duk (Dukkeen) (Nyarweng, Hol, etc.) within the same Jonglei State. Of course, in those days of the flood in their land; few went to Jieng Bor’s land located within the same Jonglei State, South Sudan at that particular juncture of flood.
      That means according to the elders’ narrations about this calamity time in Dinka Twic East people history, as a result of that calamity some people didn’t even bother themselves of coming back to the Dinka Twic East’s land after the flood (Amol/Abor) had even subdued back into the Nile River (Toc). But the majority of their demographics or populations did return to their ancestors’ land of the Jieng Tuic East after the devastating flood (Amol de Paweer) had seceded. Except that the small percentages of the population didn’t try their level bests though to come back, that percentage of families who didn’t return to Twic (Tuic) East land after all were the one including the relatives of the late commander William Nyuon Bany. It turns out that his family was among the groups of people or families who hadn’t even tried to come back to the Dinka Twic East’s land when the flood (Amol or Abor) has totally ended, and people started to immigrate back to their home cooking land of the Dinka (Jieng) Twic/Tuic East.
      The way I have studied this guy (William Nyuon) in my natural psychological knowledge through his video tapes (DVD), he is really Dinka Twic East. In those video tapes (DVD), he has demonstrated the Dinka Twic East people characteristics, as the story has been showing it that, the Dinka Twic East people are intelligent people, natural leadership characterized people, tolerant, and calm, perseverance (commitment) when it comes to truth base causes, hospitality, honesty, fair character about human being life, non-violent, and pro-more points of views toward diplomatic ways than fighting (aggression) solutions. For instance, if Dinka or Jieng Twic/Tuic East person has decided to do something, and he/she believes that it is the right thing to do. Often, there would be no frequently of retreats or backs down from the course otherwise, until the person achieves the pursuing goal (s). By the way, in their lives, they dislike these terms like gossiping, jealousy; greedy, selfish, jealousy, provocative behaviors, violent behaviors, etc. In opposite, they are trustworthy people, honest, good attitudes, guru of accountability, calm, they always don’t like to be the first problem causer between two or among people (group), and many more. Furthermore, one of their good characteristics had been shown so far during the times of the movement in regard to (Sudanese) South Sudanese’s freedom struggles’ days; specifically, by their own beloving son, hero of South Sudanese, (Sudanese) and of course, the freedom father of South Sudanese (Sudanese), late Dr. John Garang de Mabior."

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      • 30 August 2011 17:47, by Saba Saba

        Hay man it does making any different whether you are from twic East or Twic West, we are in the same boat, we laugh together and we cry together.
        You are nothing but traitor.

        From man who can not betray his own brother.

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    • 31 August 2011 10:55, by Ariec Path wol

      Your Bor community is lucky to get two senior position in the RSS if you talk of community what about your state where you come from how many senior position do your state have?

      Look at Northern Bhar el Ghazal state it is represented by two ministers and if I aske do these ministers really represent Aweil?

      If So why the government of General Salva Kiir Mayardit deployed our sons and duaghters from Aweil in to his army to protect his government?

      Now they are in the ten states of South Sudan participating in National Services hoping that thier government will never forget them and their community leave alon those who have fallen during struggle.

      So Please be like Mading Aweil and late us build our nation base layolalty

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    • 31 August 2011 14:18, by angunliach

      You dinka bor youth you should think twice and look at the all context of your community, what you should do currently is to look at your own security at your own mother land, you are fighting a mong yourselfe since the CPA was signed and
      till it expired yesterday on 9th July 2011 and you are still killing yourself and non of you has written or domonstrate a bout your security in the state.

      Now you are complaining of being under-represented, it’s so because your people are fighting for their own stomach and failed to bring peace and stability in the state, so Salva decided this time to leave them out and employed competent to resolve and bring peace to the entire south sudan, so please cool those deputies are ok with you, if you are real people and have determination in leadership you still do something
      THANK
      ANGUNLIACH

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    • 1 September 2011 05:57, by BBCs

      shot the fuck up,south sudan was like somalia when Garang was alive.what do you know about liberator when all of you bors people stay in the refugee camp and leave home Nuer and murles people. all of you bor even forgot your own village because you where all enjoying marrying and dancing in refugee camp for 20 years of war in south. let me tell you that ,you are all still sleeping.Garang is dead and what Garang did Mr Kiir and other tribes will happen to you soon. this is a new Era and better watch out carefully. your time is over.

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  • 30 August 2011 07:39, by MINDED.DUDE

    Dinka bor did not liberate anybody in south sudan.
    Dinka bor did Not win any war in entire sudan.
    SPLA/M is not Dinka bor organization,
    Garang or Logereny is did not fight any war by himself.

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  • 30 August 2011 07:49, by Dr. Rightway

    I bet u r a confused minor in Sudan and South Sudan at large. Who liberated the Equatorians? the Nuers? the shilluks? the nomads—murle and all the food lovers in South Sudan? The answer is Dinka (not only Dinka Bor) and Dinka Twic becuase they are not nyageteen. Go back to ur books to read and understand things for ur self.
    DR.Rightway...peace upon the peaceful...

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  • 30 August 2011 07:59, by Daniel Bol

    I wonder, how can the youth claims the Government representations if there are no qualified persons.

    my people you fought the war, so that all can live better in the south.

    what is now remains for all of us, lets go back to Jonglei and make it a better state, it’s bigger than any other state, it has resources, its governement will accommodate all of you. two ministers in the Juba Government are enough, see the flood all over the Jonglei’s roads. dancing in the leapord leathers is not helping these days.

    building your own state is importance than claiming the seats in Juba, while "Jonglei" is well represented.

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    • 30 August 2011 08:35, by Bol Pur

      Daniel Bol thanks so much for a wise word and thoughts. I agree with your statement. When Dinka and other communities in South Sudan went for liberation was not to be working in the government all, but few of us there and some in the states and even to Counties.
      Yes, Community Bor have only one cabinet Minister and deputy minister, but take as state you can see that Jonglei has taken more ministeries than others. Look Lakes state with only 2 ministers and 3 deputies and they are not even key ministeries. Look Unity State is the worse they have no one cabinet minister only deputy miniters. Now let’s forget Juba government and let us go back to our states build for our better living.
      It is true, Community Bor never complain since formation of government in 2005 but today may be you have found it different. Take what you got and let us wait for next changes. By the way not those who have got those seats will be there forever, no there will be reshuffling may be after 9 months to 1 year or so. Let’s see how Equatorians this times will handle security, finance and Development because of their claim always they are the better than others in the South. When it come to eating they are better but it come to fighting they are the poorest. let’s see them.

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  • 30 August 2011 08:12, by Bush

    Let those GBYA do whatever they want to do, they were given a huge gift than anyone else, to live anywhere in South Sudan isn’t that enough? GBYA, the greedy that was planted in you will destroy you all.

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    • 30 August 2011 08:21, by marial mach aduot mach

      Dear Greater Bor Youth.
      In the interest of our beloved community, I would like to repute the call aimed at the Sons of Greater Bor in the like of Michael Makuei Lueth, Majak Agot and Atem Ayaak Atem to decline their appointment into their respective positions in the government of South Sudan. In term of the equal representation in government, Greater Bor in one way or another is consistently marginalised. I don’t the cause, but my empirical assumption is that possible positions are used to buy the backing of the people who wanted to go back to Khartoum or those who would like to see the proliferations of corruptions without questioning it.
      The clear example of this marginalisation is the removal of South Sudan Central Bank governor Mr. Elijah M Lange and replaces him with Koryom, a tribesman of General Salve in order to let the corruptions and misappropriation of public fund role without any questions. This is not coincident, but a tactical moves to eliminate the people with principles of good governance and accountability, but what if the Greater Bor fails to back the leadership of Salve in next elections? Those in the throne of eatery must know there days might be numbered.
      Back to the calls from the Greater Bor youth to their representative to decline their appointments, it would have great if I support it too, but I will chose not to back the call simply not because it lack the conviction of its cause, but is goes against our conviction and reputations of Greater Bor community who does not eat to live, but live to eat. We show this courage during the war until we reach the July 9 and there no reason to throw that instinct into the bush.

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      • 30 August 2011 10:29, by Gogrialboys

        Dear readers,
        with all, the equal representation government that has been formed by our president, still some voices in our communities are calling for resignation of their representatives. This is the manufestation of truth of dominance that some communities do complain of Dinka as tribe. I know it is not all the greater Bor that want to be against Kiir Mayardit leadership, and how he formed his government, but few who have their own individual greed, and selfish interest.

        I’m sorry to point that during struggle, there were many appointment made from Bor by the leadership, and was not question by other Dinka sections, like Aweil, Greater Gogrial, Greater Tonj, Agar, Greater Yirol, Apadang, and all were committed and supportive to the movement. I know it is difficult to wed a child, who has been sucking her/his mom for long time without resistant, or crying for milk. So my Bor youth, it is absurd for you guys to think that your section has been marginalised, while it is indeed, the community that has marginalise people of South sudan for so long.

        Again, I’m sorry to hear Dinka complaining like Nuer and those of equatoria who always talk of Dinka dominance. This is true, because you brothers from Bor want a lion’s share which is not going to happen in Mayardit leadership. We are all Dinkas, and I know that the government of Kiir Mayardit is not going to be dominated by Dinka, even if you are not going to support him in the next election. I know the Dinka paid a heavy price in the struggle, but that will not be use to occupy other people seats, we are better than that. We all committed to the course during struggle, and that one should be left alone to the history of South sudanese people, and not to go back and destroyed what we all achieved.

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        • 30 August 2011 12:19, by Mading Makuac

          Dear Gogrialboys,
          You must be wrong on saying that ’’there was appointment
          taking place during John Garang time’’ Garang was not
          corrupt.Nuer and Equatorian people are complaining
          becoz most of people working within the gov’t of
          South Sudan came from Gogrial .Peple you ’ve 2
          change .Stop being greedy always.South
          Sudan belong to everybody.it
          is not yours alone!!!

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        • 31 August 2011 01:36, by Quol Quot

          Dogrial Boys,

          Garang also awarded people based on achievements and education. During Kadet, there was no thok-duel like you have with your Dogrial Government. Those who got appointments were people who fight really hard and do important jobs in the government.

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      • 30 August 2011 11:48, by BATNA

        Dear Bor Youth

        We do appreciate your claim to the point that, your complaint is similar to what some individuals from Nuer community did last time, that they were misrepresent in RSS government but up to this point, nothing prove such claims, what we know so far, you people become the most notorious one in South Sudan’s Government.

        Therefore, there’s lot of tribes in South Sudan and some of these tribes have none in those positions both of you falsely complaint, they even don’t have one in state or national level, so how do they feel? or what identity should you give them? It’s better have one than nothing and don’t be mislead by your concepts.

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        • 1 September 2011 00:26, by Dhalaluaak

          Batna,
          don’t be damn stupid here, Chol Muong once said these;the sleeping insects will hear and the awake one will see it with its own eyes.Are you a sleeping insect or awake one?
          If you slept you might have heard it or if you read the news you have seen it either way.

          Go back to read the original article where all ministers are listed[ 29 of them ] and if you fine more than Makuei alone,then i send you my apology so heartedly[there is no gimmick dude.We are not stupid to take arm but will stand tall to defeat in a logical point of view

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    • 30 August 2011 08:38, by gotutu

      DEAR DINKA BOR YOUTH.
      iam very sad for your article
      it is not necessary to complain for those thing. it is beyond your capacity .you are just acommon man .
      if you are bribed by NYANDENG AND DENG DAU.
      please go to school to compete in the coming years.
      for good position which you like education is the key to anything .
      do you want 10 ministries to be given to you?
      no it is agreedy heart which you possess.

      i am from Dinka Bor and fought the war for more than 7 years while i was under age.
      i can not complain for such thing because because i am less concerned.
      don,t claim useless thing politician are the one to complain for that.

      DEATH TO THOSE GREEDY YOUTH WHO WANT TO RUIN THE NAME OF BOR COMMUNITY

      On thing whic i want to tell the readers is that those images were taken from MALAKAL were i am right now.
      why don,t they took their image and posting it instead of our images from malakal.
      it because they are coward to be known
      no thank

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      • 30 August 2011 10:52, by panda

        Hi brother
        I’m really agreed with you Dinka Bor youth should not complain because the government of Kirr knows they communities who are really very complicated if they are not in the government.Kiir know Dinka Bor very well even if there is no one person in the government we should not compliant about the position,so I’m not happy with Bor youth compliant.What we want is not about the tribes to be rep it about how ever is capable of that position

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        • 30 August 2011 15:20, by Ajok Garang

          some is saying that Dinka Bor shoud go back to school and come and compete but when you see all what Kiir apoint are S4 levers and its true anyone from the state where comes from only finish s6 and s4 and then refuse to go to university b,se they have got Jobs which are given to them freely ....i dont blame Kiir simply beacuse where someone come from determine someone behavior ...He has forgotten Dinka Bor now but before he knows where were Dinka Bor ...
          if it means to make a research on people’s behaviors who love robery and rapping women just travel and you will find it out from where kiir and the rest came from ...Kiir is rulling but not governing the South Sudan as we have already seen in many ways this month ...kiir apointed many cousin and closed relatve in to the new governement not even the whole Bhar El Ghazal ...other wise he will be like Momour Gadafi soon if he want or not ...

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          • 31 August 2011 22:17, by Lok T Simon

            Dear ms Ajok Garang,

            The earlier for you to find good lover to finish the extermely job for you, the better and leave political on this website.

            Thanks.

            Lok T. simon.

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  • 30 August 2011 08:22, by Aleu

    Dinka Bor need to shut up.

    How many years you guys dominating the whole SPLA/SPLM movement and the rest of Southern Sudanese were under your nepotism and favortism? Bor Community is just very tiny county and should campare with others who more population. You guys cause many problems to all Dinkas during the SPLA time but this time you must be careful otherwise, revenge could come within Dinka not even Nuer. If you don’t shut up then, we can let Nuer repeat the lesson of 1993.

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    • 30 August 2011 09:15, by Ariambek

      Dear Readers,
      If you look at the beginning of struggle in South Sudan for freedom from 1955-2005

      1-Dink Bor never have militias or backing militias
      2-Never rebelled against movement or stabbed at the back
      3-Highest rank were killed in front line (e.g Anyaar Apiou& Mayen Akuak)
      4-Contributed livestock, manpower etc, others never contributed even chickens
      5-Never follow perpetrators like other tribes did
      6-Did have collaborators
      7-Dominated SPLA/M to die
      8- Just to mentioned a few

      I would like to advise my followers Dinka Bor that food is food, money is money and struggle is struggle, input is input.
      For me, South Sudan will recall Bor when mess is arise, because it is not the end of world, Dink Bor is still strong, regardless of powder greedy, the intelligence they have is never with others.
      Believe me, no surprise, this is time, is not for war, struggle is over, according to my analysis, God created Dinka Bor to served South Sudan as well as other regions.

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      • 30 August 2011 10:47, by Chanson

        Dear Dinka Bor Youths(GBYA).
        It,s not bad anyway to express yourselve through any public website or any place.But guys in this case some of you got it wrong.When we all took up arms and fought the Government of Khartoum.It doesn,t meant that we,re going to fight the war and then after-ward we may please others.No! that was not the case .We fought the war for all of us to get free from opperession of Arabs.Some of you may say that Dinka Bor have contributed alot during struggling,Which is really wrong.
        You may talk of Ayar Apieu,Mayen Akuak and so on and this can not shows the whole world how you have librated the whole South Suidan without the contribution from the rest of 63 tribes of the South Sudan.
        According to way I see those ministrial position that given to Bor Community,they are enought for on tribe.Let me ask you guys one question and be honest when giving me asnwer.Northern Bahr el Ghazal have been given two ministrial position.Are those two position enought to the whole of state? Or do you want to tell me that they have less contibuted during the war time?
        People of Northern Bahr el Ghazal are more caring about the survival of Soth Sudan.What is in their minds is not to have Lion,s share like the rest of tribes eg Dinka Bor.3 Men representing Bor is not bad deal in Juba,s government.

        @Dear compatriot.Let just embrace the spirit of nationalism for abetterment of our young country.Ithink it is not aright time for us to fight over the position rether than working hard for the development of our country.The time is still young for youth to get into such a deals.Government is agovernment.Iam not saying government is fair but it remains altogether over the world.No government is perfect.

        Peace and out!!
        Long Live South Sudan!!

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      • 30 August 2011 12:01, by BATNA

        Brother, this is the concept that mislead each one of you that, "you were born to rule" this is untrue believe to mention few, but the best option here is be simple and you will see great change in your community. non of those old theories work at this time, only when equal right and balance of power are shared.

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    • 30 August 2011 09:34, by Raan Chol

      Wish you best brothers’,chance to war where for us and chance to money are for them now,but not yet bush person still to be fight on the way coming!future is long
      Put in as a letter no action
      Forget about top worries bring black eyes watch them massing now nature witness it!!!
      Prout of you to be us
      Munching our fleshes will bring crisis in who ever do this!!!
      We suffer on every Souther Sudaness tribes in where ever we where in Sudan even from our own brothers, For example,Rou Choul Akol and every side of South Sudan araes.
      Hope Kiir will still do better,but to let every body know we will not do mass like some of them,kill people. And we can not put our selives down,we will be happy if they do good job to my southerners.This from sensitive Raan Chol.Free from politic.Hate that game...
      Position no problem,taking money and miss leading is a big problem that we can claim to our death heroes with their soul to look back,but we very prout of our heroes though we don’t have any good position in what call today’s government,we hope they will still call our names one day when things get dack in the eye of him!!!!!

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  • 30 August 2011 08:39, by Madingthith

    @Dinka Bor Community Youth,

    You have no right to criticise South Sudan,s new Cabinet formation which the entire people of South Sudan rated it to be good as all the 3 regions are represented equally.The life example is as below:-

    1. Greater Upper Nile with Minister of Defence- John Kong Nyon

    2. Greater Equatoria with Minister of Interior- Alison Manan Magaga

    3. Greater Bahr El Ghazal with Minister of Foreign Affairs- Nhial Deng Nhial

    These are the key positions in the government of which some years back were dominated by Dinka personals.In real sense the formation is fair and represented all the regions respectively according to my personal point of view.

    Moreover, your judgement is totally wrong and you need to sit again and revised it thoroughly because your chairperson Juma Arok Maketh have qualities of a good leader if he has he wouldn,t chaired such a meeting which criticise the government and there are some figures being appointed from Upper Nile region leave alone the state Hqrs of Jonglei. His vision is very short to my understanding.

    Look here if your Greater Upper Nile has got more qualified people than your Bor Community which consists of three Counties than you will suffer locally and it is not the mistake of whoever involves in the process of Formation of new cabinet. Yes you better aired out your feeling but not to the extent that you call for those who have got position to rejected their position in the newly formed government.

    During the last six years, all the sensitive Ministerials positions were held only by Dinka of Greater Bahr El Ghazal and Upper Nile and other neglected Equatoria region was also participated in nation building but there as no one time their Youth held a meeting against the Government. Did you one time hear that? if the answer is No, than why are you flogging the dead horse.

    Let us watch the recently appointed Ministers with their deputies how they delivered the services to the various communities in South Sudan and leave complaints.

    One eyed blind man does not thank God until he sees the totally blind man;

    Madingthith a man of Justices,Accountability and Transparecy
    Next Governor in 2020.

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    • 30 August 2011 08:54, by Bush

      @Madingthith

      Mr Madingthith I think you have put it right for them, the greedy that was planted in Bor community will destroy them all, you can imagine if the president were to come from them then they would have taken all the positions in the government which would make other tribes to F*@*ck them up in a matter of a minute.

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    • 30 August 2011 09:58, by gotutu

      MADIINGTHITH YOU ARE CORRECT

      LET ME ASSURE YOU THAT THEY ARE ARE THE RETURNEES WHO CAME FROM KAKUMA WHO WANT CONFUSE BOR COMMUNITY

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  • 30 August 2011 08:47, by Dengaliic

    I do not think that positions in the government will solve any woes we have in Bor. All we need is to find ways to rmove corruption in system, starting in Jonglei. There are so many communities in South Sudan but you can’t give government positions to all of them. Those who have been in the government from Bor, what have they done with it so far?

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    • 30 August 2011 09:03, by Yic-Edu

      President Kiir, is really 100% corrupt and he was right in his message that he need qualified people with experiences in Corruption that’s why he re-appointed Gier in the ministry of Roads . Bor Community you just keep quiet there will be one day change will come and i cannot blame him

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  • 30 August 2011 08:55, by mapek

    Firstly, I thanks youth of greater Bor for that reaction. When I first checked the cabinet ministers list, what came into my mind is that President Kiir forgot what contributions did Dinka Bor people brought to the movement. To mention the most extra-ordinary one that was unique from other tribes of South Sudan that were participated in the movement. Each and every Dinka Bor section contributed 5 people yearly. There people were given to the SPLA/M in order to fight Arab, apart from the force recruitment that was always done twice yearly in Bor, and the one that was done to every tribe in South Sudan. Dinka Bor Alone as a founder of the movement contributed 12000 troops in 1984 with its small population. These 12000 troops were what known as Koryom.

    I conceptualized it that President Kiir forgot Dinka Bor people, and he turned himself as our true enemy that wants to get rid of Dinka Bor politicians. This is shown by employing all Dinka Bor politicians in the GONU during the interim period thought that in any case of war eruption, NCP will kill them and without recognizing that it is him. Also Kiir ordered SPLA troops to attack Gorge Athor in 2010 while he sent Dr. Majak Agot to Athor for a peace. Gorge Athor was the one that let remained Dr. Majak about the attack and let him go.

    According to Dr. Riek apology’s confirmation, I quoted his statement that says ‘the cabinet was form by ten state governors and the President Kiir. This is according to the current South Sudan Constitution. I rethinking that our Governor Kuol Manyang had also contributed to the mistreatment of Bor Dinka by President of the republic. Kuol had been known for this, if he sees someone is popular or bigger than him he automatically uses conspiracy policy of eliminating him. He practiced this to comrade Thon Ayii.

    If President Kiir forgot all what Bor people did in the
    movement and what Bor Dinka did to him went Dr. John died then there is no one who is better than whom, either Kiir from Bar el Ghazal or Dr. Riek from Nuer. But according to my analysis I prefer Nuers as better people. Reason they all committed atrocities to us during the war. When I was in Bar El Ghazal in 1992, Dinka Bor people were treated as Kenyans and Ugandans. People were looted, raped and told that ’thong tiop du a we leer wei’ which means is your land highland that why you floated out of it. And our people who went to Nuer during the same year enjoyed their rights despite the deep conflict between the two warring communities.

    Before 1991 war, Nuers were our best neighbors then Bar El Ghazal. We practiced inter-marriages and no inter- marriage between us and Bar El Ghazal by then. Because we considered them as just a people of food just like eating. They do not know how to build their dignity, names and popularity. Nuers know visitor much than Bar El Ghazal. Bar El Ghazal are the most corrupters of the republic of South Sudan that only likes eating and looting. They lack talking skill, development and unity.

    Our conflict with Nuer is over and I urge them to respect it as the way Dr. Riek narrated it. We were best friends and I want Nuer to cement that friendship. I am tired of people without vision’s ruling. The conflict was caused by politic and I want it to end with politic.

    Bor Friendship with Dinka Bar El Ghazal was activated when they remained with us in the bush in 1991. But now they forgot it. Then they must go. How come that Warrap the smallest state in the republic end up with 6 ministers and Greater Bar El Ghazal with 9 ministers. Dinka Bor which were the founders of the movement with 1 minister, and specifically Twic East with non cabinet Minister. The home town of Dr Garang, unbelievable.

    It seems that Bar El Ghazal is enjoying their lost one blood, and Dinka Bor brothers died in vain. It means that bloods of our brothers are enjoyed by Equatorials, the one that didn’t participate in the war.

    Dr. Riek, your apology is accepted and we Bor will see how Kiir leadership will go. We are members of Upper Nile and we will mean it and make it.

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    • 30 August 2011 09:09, by Josh

      Dear Mapke it took me 30min to read your complaints. Next time try to write short and meaningful. Mind you, if you want your message to be listen, take gun and go to Bar El Ghazal. No fear the rest of community are behind you, please take power off from thefts of Bar El Ghazal.

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      • 30 August 2011 14:51, by jacob mayen ajuoi

        yes my dear, josh we know how to fight that is why now you are growing buttock is because of our sweat.Mapke is very right, we are they foundation of these nation we don,t even denie the right of others community but the keys position we should have get one position.

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    • 30 August 2011 09:37, by innocent

      i for one, iam from Bor south, in my view, to complain about position but not services is just kind of obsurdity , i donot really imagine who are this idiot come up with this stupid move. when did position become everybody is business. people should complain about lack of public services like health care and other importance amenities not position. we people of Bor are luckies in whole of south sudan let deserved that. we are the most educated community not just at level of south but whole of africa. it just take us back if we just complain about goverment position.let see in 5 to 10 years time !!!!

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    • 30 August 2011 09:43, by AgwerJimmy

      Dear Mapek, your name sounds so fake to me meaning your analysis is really fake. How then did you fight during the liberation struggle if each section of your community was contributing olny five young men annualy? Look at Greater Bhar El Ghazal where you can find almost all the young men born in a family are soldiers. Even to some extent ’ladies’.
      Ask one from ur community who suffered with Bhar el Ghazalians he will prove this.

      What war was Dinka Bor fighting? The only war you fought was the illiteracy outside the country that is why you now a days call yourselves doctors and who does not educate to become a doctor? The few pple from ur community who were in the struggle were made the senior military officers in the army. Plse let’s bury the hatchets. The best thing we can do than criticising our gov’t is to bring peace the warring communities and civilize our youth to shy away from crime related activities. Why not Northern Bhar el Ghazal complaing if complaints were the priorities against the new gov’t? But do you know how much they contributed? Even currently as we crack minds on this site, they are losing lives at the borders with their neighbouring states of Warrap to Arabs. Jimmy South.

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      • 30 August 2011 15:27, by jacob mayen ajuoi

        people really do,nt talk in to the really sense,i wounder what i no from brothers. Bhar El Ghazal it,s only where to get food and looting finish,i wise it to was not Bor stand stronger. we would have not reaches to these time where by everbody is fighting by mouths.

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    • 30 August 2011 12:30, by Lok T Simon

      Dear mapek,

      We Southern Sudanese fought for freedom and prosperties collectively regardless who was there and who was not. We know very well every citizen in the country has right to rule his/her people or country, but not everyone at once. Ruling people or country is not how big or wealthy or brave somebody is, but good attitudes, idealogies and hard-working of someone is, so anyone in Southern sudan will rule so long as he/she is right person for the country and people at large.

      Thanks

      Lok T. Simon.

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    • 30 August 2011 16:41, by DANDHEL

      Mapek!!

      Its seem that you really don’t know who were the fighters during the war and who were mostly in the refugee camps in Kakuma Kenya and some refugee camps in Uganda and even in Nairus ,New Cush stealing SPLA/M guns sold them to local Taposa or Turkana and then get married with the stolen things in the camps.
      The people of GBG have seen your cowardness community and hope another war break out again and we will see who will be the true heroes of the war and who will be the loosers of the war. Answers will be definately be BOR.

      If you dont know anything of what the people of GBG have done during the war then you better shut the fucked up cunt.

      You only take people that make history of what today is known as Bor Masscare 1991 as better people hahahaha what a fool Mapek wish I helped them hunting you down so that you shouldn’t be talking this bad today to the people of GBG.

      Anyway POPULATION of 382,000 fools won’t do anything to the GBG people.wake up you fool.

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    • 30 August 2011 16:55, by DANDHEL

      382,000 fools from Bor won’t do anything to people of Greater Bhar El Ghazel hahahaha what a group of nomads. you can tell by the look in that picture over there.

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  • 30 August 2011 09:32, by Dinkawarrior

    The Names Bor is the most respected names in the nation and you must be gratefully for yourselves! Your contribution makes different in many people lives and you deserve right to test the fruits of your hard worked. T
    There is some going on there in Juba and everything is being warped around in the wrong direction. Even the enemies of our freedom are changing their colors and believed to be Liberators, fixing their bad images, and abusing of power in our capital.
    Is this a time for you guys to eats, drinks, and sleeps? Then go ahead but don’t forget about Bor!

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    • 30 August 2011 09:46, by Josh

      take gun and go ahead to fuck bar el ghazal.
      Naket women are complaining about beding satisfaction.

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  • 30 August 2011 09:54, by Josh

    what do Dinka Bor know? maybe thefts, look at how John Garang died of Cholera which he cought from eating contaminated food from Natinga.

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  • 30 August 2011 10:45, by BenTur

    Mr. Mapek do u know that greediness is one of the capital sins that destroy people it self. Why is Your youth Association is backing much on political issues that social reforms and adjustments in your Bor community?
    Who can believe that Bor community had contributed 12000 soldiers during that war? when the whole Bor community fled to exile in ether foreign countries and various places in South Sudan. The few that remained in the movement for protection could not be claimed as a big contribution of saying Bor as a single community should be given more Ministers in the Gov’t.
    Let me tell u during the war Bahr el Ghazal constitute the largest number of soldiers in the movement but that does mean a single community within Bahr el Ghazal that contributed including non dinka people, You are now lying us as south Sudanese for Bor to have much contribution than any other communty in then liberation. Look Mr.mapek much of you community(Bor) is still in refuge in Nimule, Torit, Yei, Juba and many other places including abroad leaving Bor for Nuer and Murle for fear of being killed and start challenging Bahr el Ghazal that is leaving in its places has never gone anywhere like you. come home first and start organzing against Bahr el ghazal for whatever you think we are shall see involving Nuer or Bor alone we shall see.

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  • 30 August 2011 10:49, by BenTur

    Mr. Mapek do u know that greediness is one of the capital sins that destroy people it self. Why is Your youth Association is backing much on political issues that social reforms and adjustments in your Bor community?
    Who can believe that Bor community had contributed 12000 soldiers during that war? when the whole Bor community fled to exile in ether foreign countries and various places in South Sudan. The few that remained in the movement for protection could not be claimed as a big contribution of saying Bor as a single community should be given more Ministers in the Gov’t.
    Let me tell u during the war Bahr el Ghazal constituted the largest number of soldiers in the movement but that does mean a single community within Bahr el Ghazal that contributed including non dinka people, You are now lying us as south Sudanese for Bor to have much contribution than any other communty in then liberation. Look Mr.mapek much of you community(Bor) is still in refuge in Nimule, Torit, Yei, Juba and many other places including abroad leaving Bor for Nuer and Murle for fear of being killed and start challenging Bahr el Ghazal that is leaving in its places has never gone anywhere like you. come home first and start organzing against Bahr el ghazal for whatever you think we are shall see involving Nuer or Bor alone we shall see.

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    • 30 August 2011 11:53, by Mach Achiek

      Dear Bor Youth,

      Your concerns are very understandable, and i think it will not go down well with the leadership of Salva Kiir in Juba.To make my opinion as a son of Bor; I think its not our character to complains for the top positions in the government, since this is not our first time to lead the people of South Sudan.

      Our son led the regional government in the 1970s and our son did a well done job in the last two decades and has his statue stand tall somewhere here in Juba. We are being known of our competency and if there are other South Sudanese who has becomes more competent than us, then lets them do the job.

      Lets us stay silent my comrades, they will mess it worse and they will call us to fix it in the future.

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      • 31 August 2011 02:26, by dingdong

        People, every community entitle to express its concern when it doesn’t look right. You can’t have good nation when we say yes to everything, right or wrong. This is why we always have dividedline within communities because we intended to covered up and supports wrong ideas.Good nation brought by the peoples’ voices if leader listen to them

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  • 30 August 2011 11:39, by Lok T Simon

    Dear readers and in particular Dinka Bor youth,

    "D" which is representing dinka has no different whether you come from east, north,west or south within Southern Sudan,the total remains dinka, and from that note, I argue you that let others tribes within 60 tribes in Southern sudan who have not even got the post of deputy in high offices, rise their voices more than you Dinka Bor. You have many representative in army and all different offices within R.S.S government and you still complainting, what important or special are you? Do you think that SPLA/M being led by Dr John D.,What I thought is the reference that your complaint is based upon, becomes the Kingdom for any Bor person to be in that post, better to shut up and don’t try to agiate or disturbe the development of the newest nation on earth.

    You have got Nyandengdit primary school or second school in Kenya, You have hugue agriculture plantation in Zimbabwe during the war, leave alone thusand of boys and girls from Bor that have been taken outside through Garang process, other dinka that you the Dinka Bor complaning, have not yet got chance to go to school or help their homes, and now you still telling shits.Are you only more important than anyone in the country and therefore, can you complaint anything that you think comes into your mind? Bullshits!!!

    If peace keeping force of UN which can loss us hugue economy,is being placed in Jonglei because of the hatred that between you Dinka Bor and other tribes within Jonglei, then what important do you think you are? bury your greedy and you call it a day.

    Thanks.

    Lok T. Simon.

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    • 31 August 2011 08:33, by Manyaar

      look at this MOTHERFUCKER. SHOT UP!!!
      mr something,can you prove it. do you have the names of the people that has been sent to diasporia through Dr de Mabior or Nyandeng process.I am sorry that some people comes to this site to practice their writting. back to Dr Garang, who said the complaint was because Garang led the movement. go back and read the article again son of bitch.

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  • 30 August 2011 12:47, by acuil deng

    While " the Dinka Bor community" are voicing their opinion, and staging up criticism against the president’s selection of his cabinet. Some of us are trying to take the credit, for the struggle and the sacrifice that belongs to all the people. Others, are even trying to make it looks as if, it is about —Dinka and Nuer— which is; absolutely, wrong. As we have seen it here, all ideas are rotating, about either your tribe or my clan, and if you are not with us, then you are against us.
    There is no doubt in my mind, the late (Dr. John Garang) was a hero and a patriot, who did his part. And hate to judge the man.

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    • 30 August 2011 15:11, by JohnGarangFreedom

      Dinka Twi East Civil Group message to H.E President Kiir Mayardit.

      The following message our brother book.

      It is title: "Dr. John Garang de Mabior: The undiscovered Stories About Man Behind South Sudanese’ Freedom. Author: Garang de Faith & Truth.

      "We the people of Twic Dinka East Youth are not part of this protest, if there is any Dinka Twic east persons in there. We know that, he/she might be ill, crazy or being the slave or follower of Dinka Bor ideal of messes, bad characteristics whom they were born with as an indication of qualify public ethical virtues. To assure you Mr. President, as our history has been shown it, the people known as Twi Dinka East are not evils doing people, because they often know how to handle things professional. Acting like child is not theirs behaviors.

      Second, in last few months the Tuic Dinka East people are fighting with Dinka Bor indirectly for Twi ancestor identity whom they claim that the Dinka Twic East is sub-tribe of Dinka Bor instead of us being the major sub-tribe of Dinka as whole. So war is now going on. That was one of the elements allow them to deceive Dr. Riek Machar to make unorganized apology so that they will get credit and history as they planing. But we the people of Dinka Twi are not going to be deceived or being take like fool. That’s thing will not happen in our watches.

      Third, as Twic East County we have this people already in high positions of South Sudan government:

      (1) Atem de Garang in higher position
      (2) Lual Achuek Deng still there
      (3) Majak Agoot in deputy position were he has seniority
      (4) Atem Yak Atem
      (5) We believe Nyandeng will be there
      (6) Malok as well will be in another high position in government
      (7) Aguer Manyang
      (8) Jurkuch de Barach
      (9) Bior da Ajang
      (10) Chol de piowei
      (12) And many more in your administration positions and some are coming.

      We the Dinka Twi/Twic East people are so proud of your excellent job well done Mr. President.

      Garang background links to earliest SPLM/A top five leaders

      “It is not flesh and blood but the heart which makes us fathers and sons.” Johann Schiller
      “Always continue the climb. It is possible for you to do whatever you choose, if you first get to know who you are and are willing to work with a power that is greater than ourselves to do it.”
      By Ella Wheeler Wilcox

      The following is the descriptions about the new discovery in regards to Late Dr. John Garang links to the others earliest five leaders of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) top five military Commanders, particularly when it comes to their backgrounds related to tribe’s identifications. And I have no idea if they were knew it back then or not, that they were all from Dinka or Jieng tribe. However, I think Dr. Garang was so sure about Late Cdr. Kerubino Kuanyin Bol and late Cdr. Arok Thon Arok that they were from two branches of Dinka Twic East and Dinka Twic West (Mayardit), and at the same I believe he knew that Dr. Kiir was from Dinka Twic, but I am not so sure Dr. Garang knows that Dr. Kiir was related to him through the roots of the other Dinka or Jieng Twic/Tuic West (Mayardit).
      Anyway in my view, when it comes to his knowledge about late Cdr. William Nyuon Bany and Cdr. Salva Kiir Mayardit relationship to him through sub-tribes of Dinka (Jieng) Twic East and Dinka Twic West. I think that time he didn’t even aware of these intriguing links, except, he may have known them then as those two guys were having Jieng’s (Dinka) backgrounds only up to that point, in whatsoever. By the way, the bottom-line is this; they were all having the same traits or bonds of kinship through Dinka tribe backgrounds. So ahead are all the top five commanders of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) leadership in earliest days of the movement; they were having the unbelievable story related to their backgrounds in which the majority of South Sudanese (Sudanese) people didn’t even have knowledge during their lifetimes or in another hand when all of them were still alive.
      However, for me to be short and brief about the explanations, they were all closes and related in blood kinships through two branches of Jieng tribe called Dinka Tuic East (Jonglei State) and of course, the other Dinka Tuic Mayardit of the West Nile River (Warrap State.) So here are those leaders by their names and positions they were holding when they were all together under one well-known umbrella of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) movement in 1980s and the earliest years of the 1990s:
      • Chairman of the SPLM/A, C-in-C late Dr. John Garang de Mabior;
      • Deputy Chairman of the SPLM/A, late Cdr. Kerubino Kuanyin de Bol;
      • Lt. Commander of the SPLM/A, late William Nyuon de Bany;
      • Lt. Commander of the SPLM/A, Salva Kiir de Mayardit;
      • Lt. Commander of the SPLM/A, late Arok Thon da Arok.

      First of all, ladies and gentlemen, you may not believe what I have discovered about these earliest top five commanders of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) leaderships’ backgrounds, it is an intriguing and fascinating story you couldn’t even believe I think, but the truth of matter is; they were all blooded linked together under two sub-tribes of the Dinka tribe called Twic East and Twic West (Mayardit). As a story goes and at the same time what the names had shown it to you above, these two sub-tribes are related to one another through many characteristics such as: intelligence, calm, leadership, honesty, tolerant, good behaviors (attitudes) people, dignity, accountability, hospitality, cares, tactic, unselfish, patience, stands for truth, use of more diplomats than violent, integrity, commitment (perseverance), trustworthy, fairness when it comes to human being life, respect, they are also fantastic when it comes to the logistical way of distributing things in a fair and balance way (manner) to everybody, plus many other values and beliefs of their own principled (disciplined) culture, etc.
      Back to the topic, would you believe this fascinating story or wouldn’t you? Please takes a deep breath my friend if you don’t believe this story; the story is factually 100 percentages true story I am talking about here. And I know some of you out there may be pessimistic or being certain kind of doubts if I may add that on top, especially when it comes to me being concentrated on two Commanders like late Commander William Nyuon Bany plus our currently President of the republic of South Sudan, Dr. Salva Kiir Mayardit. Who is also holding the position of the First Vice president of the republic of Sudan.
      By not overdue the explanations, I am going to put their links together below under an individual chain of descriptions, here are those links: As we all may have had known already that, late Dr. John Garang de Mabior and late Arok Thon Arok are from Dinka (Jieng) Tuic (Twic) East tribe in Jonglei state (formerly known as the Upper Nile region before the separations of the country into two nations/states) in South Sudan.
      However, before hand, you don’t have to be confused my friend about this tribe (Dinka or Jieng Twic/Tuic East) identity correction between this claims and the original misleading issues of their identity misidentification during the movement (Civil war times in Sudan) and/or after the British Empire has given Sudanese’ independence in 1956. That was the time, whereas the Jieng Twic East tribe identity became like parts of Jieng Bor tribe rather than being considered as a stand alone and/or an independent branch tribe within the Dinka tribe of South Sudan or Sudan before present times. In which to me at that particular days, it was an erroneous or unfortunate misidentification of Jieng Tuïc East tribe identity back then, but this correction is being done at present moment. It is an appropriate times for everybody to be called upon to respect and totally adore to corrections of this tribe identity’s roots and aligned it with their truly tribe of the Dinka Twic East.
      All this information must not be taken simply like this is an Author views alone, which is not. It must be accepted that through a mutual respectful way and integrity, this correction is also adherents to Dinka Twic East’s historians, scholars, class act colleagues, intellectuals, Twic East County people, and everyone else who have a Jieng Twic (Tuic) East people with deep and acquainted roots in history of the Dinka Twic East traits.
      So I am here to represent the interests (views) of an entire community of the Dinka Twic East people who are daring to correct their own and truly identity. It is one of the priority goals (components) God (Nhialic) Himself given me to conquer it over the rest of my life on earth. Because Dr. Garang didn’t have time back then at the time of civil war unrest in Sudan, and of course, his immediate or unfortunate death before he would have been able to corrects this identity is a main reason why I was given a green-light by Creator to do so to my fellow tribe mates. Again, it was one of the reasons why God (Nhialic) Himself allows me to do it to my people of the Jieng Twic East, just simple as that.
      Furthermore, this issue is one of the main core missions God (Nhialic) wants me to strengthen for His people of the Dinka Twic/Tuic East community. And you are advised to respect and being adored by their requests for the well being or mutual respect based on rights of truth acceptance under the morale code of ethics (moral philosophy) and class acts.
      By the way, if you didn’t even know that there was another main branch of Dinka (Jieng) so-called Twic (Tuic) East after Sudan gained its independence in 1956; please it is time for you out there to correct this tribe’s identity. And if you still don’t believe me about this correction of mine regarding to the Dinka Twic East identity. With due respects of your opinions or thoughts, I don’t think there will be any other places on earth where you will get a better truth or evidence than what I had been explained inside this book. There is no way even God (Nhialic) Himself knows it, plus the majority of people in South Sudan know that the Dinka Twic East is an independent tribe in Jieng (Dinka). The Dinka Twic East has its own language (Dialect), and at the same time these people are having their own distinguishing characteristics (Traits) from other Dinka (Jieng) Bor in which sometimes most people miss associated with.
      And to people who may not know about the earliest SPLM/A Deputy chairman, who is also back then or late Commander Kerubino Kuanyin Bol, if you didn’t know this guy background; starting from today you have to remember that, he is from Dinka Twic Mayardit of the West Nile River (White Nile) side, currently located in Warrap State, South Sudan. It is the first place where most of the Clans who made up the Jieng Tuic (Twic) East tribe of the Jonglei State, South Sudan came from some centuries ago. That is where the majority of the clans came to the existing land of the Dinka Twic East people inhabited as of today at the east bank of the River Nile (White Nile/Toc) basin. In their own mother tongue, they call the River Nile as “Toc.”
      Over either sides of the River Nile (White Nile) where Dinka Twic East and Dinka Twic West (Mayardit), both cousin tribes now each has its own Adiang Clan (Wut), in places where the Dinka Twic East and the Dinka Twic West people had been occupied respectively for centuries since both tribes separated from each other through the unknown reason(s).
      Alright, what about Dr. Salva Kiir Mayardit? Who is currently owned the position of the Presidency of the republic of South Sudan. And at the same he is holding the position of the First Vice President of the republic of Sudan. If you don’t know about him, Dr. Kiir is from the Dinka tribe of Rek in Warrap State, South Sudan. However, what way he is being linked to the other two branches of the Dinka Twic East (Jonglei State) and the Dinka Twic West (Warrap State)? Well, that is a very interesting question to ask; of course, Kiir mother is from Dinka Twic West (Mayardit) now located in Warrap State (Formerly known as Bhar el Ghazal region). I think that is a quick and simply answer concerning where President Salva Kiir Mayardit has a chained relationship or links with the others top four of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) earliest leadership body.
      Anyway, apart from individualism explanations, these leaders were all linked to these two branches of the Dinka Twic East and Dinka Twic West (Mayardit). Again, briefly, they were all Dinka (Jieng) guys.
      Finally, what about the background of late Commander William Nyuon Bany? Where to go to question as well, he also has roots from the Jieng (Dinka) tribe; especially the part of the Dinka sub-tribe where his roots or chains being linked to, is Dinka Twic East of the Jonglei State, South Sudan. It is the same sub-tribe of Jieng where both late Dr. John Garang de Mabior and late Arok Thon Arok respectively are from. But in what way? Well, the following explanations would be a little quite intriguing why he got a related root from Dinka’s branch so-call the Dinka Twic East? For instance, in the earliest years of the twenty-centuries, there was a big flood over the Dinka or Jieng Twic (Tuic) East land in Jonglei State (obviously known as the Upper Nile region during pre-eras of Sudan’s separations into two states or countries) in South Sudan. The disaster was caused by the big flood as people call it as “Amol thith (Run de Paw??r) in Dinka/Jieng Twic (Tuic) East tribe and Nuer or Naath is being called Pilual” in their mother tongue (Tho? de Twic/Tuïc East). That means it was the year of calamity of flood in Dinka Twic East’s land. As I had been told, the flood was a devastating disaster that did take a lot of people lives; livestock and everything else have been uncountable in those days. Did I say everything? If I did, I do mean anything people of the Jieng Tuïc East lives were depending on as valuable and basic needs for life were wipeout. It is one of the biggest disasters that had over passed the Dinka Twic East land; I think it should be aligned with the disaster of the Nov 15, 1991 in their land.
      So over that period, most of the Jieng (Dinka) Tuic East people did migrate to many places like Nuer’s land sub-tribes like Lou, Gaweer, Jikany East, Fangak, etc., and some people even went as far as other sub-tribes of the Jieng lands such as: Jieng Abiliang in Upper Nile State (back then known as the Upper Nile region), Jieng Padang (Padeng) at the moment located in Jonglei State (back then as well known as the Upper Nile region) within the same location where the Jieng Tuic East currently residing too, some people even went to nearby bordering tribes of Jieng like Jieng Duk (Dukkeen) (Nyarweng, Hol, etc.) within the same Jonglei State. Of course, in those days of the flood in their land; few went to Jieng Bor’s land located within the same Jonglei State, South Sudan at that particular juncture of flood.
      That means according to the elders’ narrations about this calamity time in Dinka Twic East people history, as a result of that calamity some people didn’t even bother themselves of coming back to the Dinka Twic East’s land after the flood (Amol/Abor) had even subdued back into the Nile River (Toc). But the majority of their demographics or populations did return to their ancestors’ land of the Jieng Tuic East after the devastating flood (Amol de Paweer) had seceded. Except that the small percentages of the population didn’t try their level bests though to come back, that percentage of families who didn’t return to Twic (Tuic) East land after all were the one including the relatives of the late commander William Nyuon Bany. It turns out that his family was among the groups of people or families who hadn’t even tried to come back to the Dinka Twic East’s land when the flood (Amol or Abor) has totally ended, and people started to immigrate back to their home cooking land of the Dinka (Jieng) Twic/Tuic East.
      The way I have studied this guy (William Nyuon) in my natural psychological knowledge through his video tapes (DVD), he is really Dinka Twic East. In those video tapes (DVD), he has demonstrated the Dinka Twic East people characteristics, as the story has been showing it that, the Dinka Twic East people are intelligent people, natural leadership characterized people, tolerant, and calm, perseverance (commitment) when it comes to truth base causes, hospitality, honesty, fair character about human being life, non-violent, and pro-more points of views toward diplomatic ways than fighting (aggression) solutions. For instance, if Dinka or Jieng Twic/Tuic East person has decided to do something, and he/she believes that it is the right thing to do. Often, there would be no frequently of retreats or backs down from the course otherwise, until the person achieves the pursuing goal (s). By the way, in their lives, they dislike these terms like gossiping, jealousy; greedy, selfish, jealousy, provocative behaviors, violent behaviors, etc. In opposite, they are trustworthy people, honest, good attitudes, guru of accountability, calm, they always don’t like to be the first problem causer between two or among people (group), and many more. Furthermore, one of their good characteristics had been shown so far during the times of the movement in regard to (Sudanese) South Sudanese’s freedom struggles’ days; specifically, by their own beloving son, hero of South Sudanese, (Sudanese) and of course, the freedom father of South Sudanese (Sudanese), late Dr. John Garang de Mabior."

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  • 30 August 2011 13:17, by Dikori ti Linya

    Its better for you Bor community to come up with the full proposal
    indicating the post you want your people to occupy otherwise don’t waste time by talking nonsense, others altering their useless comments regarding the big share for the struggle..every citizen in South Sudan has rights to be given those post.

    You Bor have messed up a lot especially in the previous post given to Gier Chun, Gier and Governor Kuol has been brokering all bloodshed of innocent indigenous in Jonglei State btn the two communities of Murle and Nuer by arming Nuer to fight Murle.This all show that you Borians are not capable of handling such post and it need steady people. Throw the blame on Gier, widow Nyandeng and Kuol mayang, they are the causers of all your today’s crying...

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  • 30 August 2011 15:09, by JohnGarangFreedom

    Dinka Twi East Civil Group message to H.E President Kiir Mayardit.

    The following message our brother book.

    It is title: "Dr. John Garang de Mabior: The undiscovered Stories About Man Behind South Sudanese’ Freedom. Author: Garang de Faith & Truth.

    "We the people of Twic Dinka East Youth are not part of this protest, if there is any Dinka Twic east persons in there. We know that, he/she might be ill, crazy or being the slave or follower of Dinka Bor ideal of messes, bad characteristics whom they were born with as an indication of qualify public ethical virtues. To assure you Mr. President, as our history has been shown it, the people known as Twi Dinka East are not evils doing people, because they often know how to handle things professional. Acting like child is not theirs behaviors.

    Second, in last few months the Tuic Dinka East people are fighting with Dinka Bor indirectly for Twi ancestor identity whom they claim that the Dinka Twic East is sub-tribe of Dinka Bor instead of us being the major sub-tribe of Dinka as whole. So war is now going on. That was one of the elements allow them to deceive Dr. Riek Machar to make unorganized apology so that they will get credit and history as they planing. But we the people of Dinka Twi are not going to be deceived or being take like fool. That’s thing will not happen in our watches.

    Third, as Twic East County we have this people already in high positions of South Sudan government:

    (1) Atem de Garang in higher position
    (2) Lual Achuek Deng still there
    (3) Majak Agoot in deputy position were he has seniority
    (4) Atem Yak Atem
    (5) We believe Nyandeng will be there
    (6) Malok as well will be in another high position in government
    (7) Aguer Manyang
    (8) Jurkuch de Barach
    (9) Bior da Ajang
    (10) Chol de piowei
    (12) And many more in your administration positions and some are coming.

    We the Dinka Twi/Twic East people are so proud of your excellent job well done Mr. President.

    Garang background links to earliest SPLM/A top five leaders

    “It is not flesh and blood but the heart which makes us fathers and sons.” Johann Schiller
    “Always continue the climb. It is possible for you to do whatever you choose, if you first get to know who you are and are willing to work with a power that is greater than ourselves to do it.”
    By Ella Wheeler Wilcox

    The following is the descriptions about the new discovery in regards to Late Dr. John Garang links to the others earliest five leaders of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) top five military Commanders, particularly when it comes to their backgrounds related to tribe’s identifications. And I have no idea if they were knew it back then or not, that they were all from Dinka or Jieng tribe. However, I think Dr. Garang was so sure about Late Cdr. Kerubino Kuanyin Bol and late Cdr. Arok Thon Arok that they were from two branches of Dinka Twic East and Dinka Twic West (Mayardit), and at the same I believe he knew that Dr. Kiir was from Dinka Twic, but I am not so sure Dr. Garang knows that Dr. Kiir was related to him through the roots of the other Dinka or Jieng Twic/Tuic West (Mayardit).
    Anyway in my view, when it comes to his knowledge about late Cdr. William Nyuon Bany and Cdr. Salva Kiir Mayardit relationship to him through sub-tribes of Dinka (Jieng) Twic East and Dinka Twic West. I think that time he didn’t even aware of these intriguing links, except, he may have known them then as those two guys were having Jieng’s (Dinka) backgrounds only up to that point, in whatsoever. By the way, the bottom-line is this; they were all having the same traits or bonds of kinship through Dinka tribe backgrounds. So ahead are all the top five commanders of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) leadership in earliest days of the movement; they were having the unbelievable story related to their backgrounds in which the majority of South Sudanese (Sudanese) people didn’t even have knowledge during their lifetimes or in another hand when all of them were still alive.
    However, for me to be short and brief about the explanations, they were all closes and related in blood kinships through two branches of Jieng tribe called Dinka Tuic East (Jonglei State) and of course, the other Dinka Tuic Mayardit of the West Nile River (Warrap State.) So here are those leaders by their names and positions they were holding when they were all together under one well-known umbrella of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) movement in 1980s and the earliest years of the 1990s:
    • Chairman of the SPLM/A, C-in-C late Dr. John Garang de Mabior;
    • Deputy Chairman of the SPLM/A, late Cdr. Kerubino Kuanyin de Bol;
    • Lt. Commander of the SPLM/A, late William Nyuon de Bany;
    • Lt. Commander of the SPLM/A, Salva Kiir de Mayardit;
    • Lt. Commander of the SPLM/A, late Arok Thon da Arok.

    First of all, ladies and gentlemen, you may not believe what I have discovered about these earliest top five commanders of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) leaderships’ backgrounds, it is an intriguing and fascinating story you couldn’t even believe I think, but the truth of matter is; they were all blooded linked together under two sub-tribes of the Dinka tribe called Twic East and Twic West (Mayardit). As a story goes and at the same time what the names had shown it to you above, these two sub-tribes are related to one another through many characteristics such as: intelligence, calm, leadership, honesty, tolerant, good behaviors (attitudes) people, dignity, accountability, hospitality, cares, tactic, unselfish, patience, stands for truth, use of more diplomats than violent, integrity, commitment (perseverance), trustworthy, fairness when it comes to human being life, respect, they are also fantastic when it comes to the logistical way of distributing things in a fair and balance way (manner) to everybody, plus many other values and beliefs of their own principled (disciplined) culture, etc.
    Back to the topic, would you believe this fascinating story or wouldn’t you? Please takes a deep breath my friend if you don’t believe this story; the story is factually 100 percentages true story I am talking about here. And I know some of you out there may be pessimistic or being certain kind of doubts if I may add that on top, especially when it comes to me being concentrated on two Commanders like late Commander William Nyuon Bany plus our currently President of the republic of South Sudan, Dr. Salva Kiir Mayardit. Who is also holding the position of the First Vice president of the republic of Sudan.
    By not overdue the explanations, I am going to put their links together below under an individual chain of descriptions, here are those links: As we all may have had known already that, late Dr. John Garang de Mabior and late Arok Thon Arok are from Dinka (Jieng) Tuic (Twic) East tribe in Jonglei state (formerly known as the Upper Nile region before the separations of the country into two nations/states) in South Sudan.
    However, before hand, you don’t have to be confused my friend about this tribe (Dinka or Jieng Twic/Tuic East) identity correction between this claims and the original misleading issues of their identity misidentification during the movement (Civil war times in Sudan) and/or after the British Empire has given Sudanese’ independence in 1956. That was the time, whereas the Jieng Twic East tribe identity became like parts of Jieng Bor tribe rather than being considered as a stand alone and/or an independent branch tribe within the Dinka tribe of South Sudan or Sudan before present times. In which to me at that particular days, it was an erroneous or unfortunate misidentification of Jieng Tuïc East tribe identity back then, but this correction is being done at present moment. It is an appropriate times for everybody to be called upon to respect and totally adore to corrections of this tribe identity’s roots and aligned it with their truly tribe of the Dinka Twic East.
    All this information must not be taken simply like this is an Author views alone, which is not. It must be accepted that through a mutual respectful way and integrity, this correction is also adherents to Dinka Twic East’s historians, scholars, class act colleagues, intellectuals, Twic East County people, and everyone else who have a Jieng Twic (Tuic) East people with deep and acquainted roots in history of the Dinka Twic East traits.
    So I am here to represent the interests (views) of an entire community of the Dinka Twic East people who are daring to correct their own and truly identity. It is one of the priority goals (components) God (Nhialic) Himself given me to conquer it over the rest of my life on earth. Because Dr. Garang didn’t have time back then at the time of civil war unrest in Sudan, and of course, his immediate or unfortunate death before he would have been able to corrects this identity is a main reason why I was given a green-light by Creator to do so to my fellow tribe mates. Again, it was one of the reasons why God (Nhialic) Himself allows me to do it to my people of the Jieng Twic East, just simple as that.
    Furthermore, this issue is one of the main core missions God (Nhialic) wants me to strengthen for His people of the Dinka Twic/Tuic East community. And you are advised to respect and being adored by their requests for the well being or mutual respect based on rights of truth acceptance under the morale code of ethics (moral philosophy) and class acts.
    By the way, if you didn’t even know that there was another main branch of Dinka (Jieng) so-called Twic (Tuic) East after Sudan gained its independence in 1956; please it is time for you out there to correct this tribe’s identity. And if you still don’t believe me about this correction of mine regarding to the Dinka Twic East identity. With due respects of your opinions or thoughts, I don’t think there will be any other places on earth where you will get a better truth or evidence than what I had been explained inside this book. There is no way even God (Nhialic) Himself knows it, plus the majority of people in South Sudan know that the Dinka Twic East is an independent tribe in Jieng (Dinka). The Dinka Twic East has its own language (Dialect), and at the same time these people are having their own distinguishing characteristics (Traits) from other Dinka (Jieng) Bor in which sometimes most people miss associated with.
    And to people who may not know about the earliest SPLM/A Deputy chairman, who is also back then or late Commander Kerubino Kuanyin Bol, if you didn’t know this guy background; starting from today you have to remember that, he is from Dinka Twic Mayardit of the West Nile River (White Nile) side, currently located in Warrap State, South Sudan. It is the first place where most of the Clans who made up the Jieng Tuic (Twic) East tribe of the Jonglei State, South Sudan came from some centuries ago. That is where the majority of the clans came to the existing land of the Dinka Twic East people inhabited as of today at the east bank of the River Nile (White Nile/Toc) basin. In their own mother tongue, they call the River Nile as “Toc.”
    Over either sides of the River Nile (White Nile) where Dinka Twic East and Dinka Twic West (Mayardit), both cousin tribes now each has its own Adiang Clan (Wut), in places where the Dinka Twic East and the Dinka Twic West people had been occupied respectively for centuries since both tribes separated from each other through the unknown reason(s).
    Alright, what about Dr. Salva Kiir Mayardit? Who is currently owned the position of the Presidency of the republic of South Sudan. And at the same he is holding the position of the First Vice President of the republic of Sudan. If you don’t know about him, Dr. Kiir is from the Dinka tribe of Rek in Warrap State, South Sudan. However, what way he is being linked to the other two branches of the Dinka Twic East (Jonglei State) and the Dinka Twic West (Warrap State)? Well, that is a very interesting question to ask; of course, Kiir mother is from Dinka Twic West (Mayardit) now located in Warrap State (Formerly known as Bhar el Ghazal region). I think that is a quick and simply answer concerning where President Salva Kiir Mayardit has a chained relationship or links with the others top four of the Sudan People Liberation Movement/Army (SPLM/A) earliest leadership body.
    Anyway, apart from individualism explanations, these leaders were all linked to these two branches of the Dinka Twic East and Dinka Twic West (Mayardit). Again, briefly, they were all Dinka (Jieng) guys.
    Finally, what about the background of late Commander William Nyuon Bany? Where to go to question as well, he also has roots from the Jieng (Dinka) tribe; especially the part of the Dinka sub-tribe where his roots or chains being linked to, is Dinka Twic East of the Jonglei State, South Sudan. It is the same sub-tribe of Jieng where both late Dr. John Garang de Mabior and late Arok Thon Arok respectively are from. But in what way? Well, the following explanations would be a little quite intriguing why he got a related root from Dinka’s branch so-call the Dinka Twic East? For instance, in the earliest years of the twenty-centuries, there was a big flood over the Dinka or Jieng Twic (Tuic) East land in Jonglei State (obviously known as the Upper Nile region during pre-eras of Sudan’s separations into two states or countries) in South Sudan. The disaster was caused by the big flood as people call it as “Amol thith (Run de Paw??r) in Dinka/Jieng Twic (Tuic) East tribe and Nuer or Naath is being called Pilual” in their mother tongue (Tho? de Twic/Tuïc East). That means it was the year of calamity of flood in Dinka Twic East’s land. As I had been told, the flood was a devastating disaster that did take a lot of people lives; livestock and everything else have been uncountable in those days. Did I say everything? If I did, I do mean anything people of the Jieng Tuïc East lives were depending on as valuable and basic needs for life were wipeout. It is one of the biggest disasters that had over passed the Dinka Twic East land; I think it should be aligned with the disaster of the Nov 15, 1991 in their land.
    So over that period, most of the Jieng (Dinka) Tuic East people did migrate to many places like Nuer’s land sub-tribes like Lou, Gaweer, Jikany East, Fangak, etc., and some people even went as far as other sub-tribes of the Jieng lands such as: Jieng Abiliang in Upper Nile State (back then known as the Upper Nile region), Jieng Padang (Padeng) at the moment located in Jonglei State (back then as well known as the Upper Nile region) within the same location where the Jieng Tuic East currently residing too, some people even went to nearby bordering tribes of Jieng like Jieng Duk (Dukkeen) (Nyarweng, Hol, etc.) within the same Jonglei State. Of course, in those days of the flood in their land; few went to Jieng Bor’s land located within the same Jonglei State, South Sudan at that particular juncture of flood.
    That means according to the elders’ narrations about this calamity time in Dinka Twic East people history, as a result of that calamity some people didn’t even bother themselves of coming back to the Dinka Twic East’s land after the flood (Amol/Abor) had even subdued back into the Nile River (Toc). But the majority of their demographics or populations did return to their ancestors’ land of the Jieng Tuic East after the devastating flood (Amol de Paweer) had seceded. Except that the small percentages of the population didn’t try their level bests though to come back, that percentage of families who didn’t return to Twic (Tuic) East land after all were the one including the relatives of the late commander William Nyuon Bany. It turns out that his family was among the groups of people or families who hadn’t even tried to come back to the Dinka Twic East’s land when the flood (Amol or Abor) has totally ended, and people started to immigrate back to their home cooking land of the Dinka (Jieng) Twic/Tuic East.
    The way I have studied this guy (William Nyuon) in my natural psychological knowledge through his video tapes (DVD), he is really Dinka Twic East. In those video tapes (DVD), he has demonstrated the Dinka Twic East people characteristics, as the story has been showing it that, the Dinka Twic East people are intelligent people, natural leadership characterized people, tolerant, and calm, perseverance (commitment) when it comes to truth base causes, hospitality, honesty, fair character about human being life, non-violent, and pro-more points of views toward diplomatic ways than fighting (aggression) solutions. For instance, if Dinka or Jieng Twic/Tuic East person has decided to do something, and he/she believes that it is the right thing to do. Often, there would be no frequently of retreats or backs down from the course otherwise, until the person achieves the pursuing goal (s). By the way, in their lives, they dislike these terms like gossiping, jealousy; greedy, selfish, jealousy, provocative behaviors, violent behaviors, etc. In opposite, they are trustworthy people, honest, good attitudes, guru of accountability, calm, they always don’t like to be the first problem causer between two or among people (group), and many more. Furthermore, one of their good characteristics had been shown so far during the times of the movement in regard to (Sudanese) South Sudanese’s freedom struggles’ days; specifically, by their own beloving son, hero of South Sudanese, (Sudanese) and of course, the freedom father of South Sudanese (Sudanese), late Dr. John Garang de Mabior."

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  • 30 August 2011 15:42, by Dr nyoch

    This dinka bor have nothing to do with what H.E Kiir Mayardit has already announced above all they are given ministry of parliamentarin affiars and deputy minister of defence.
    however,the current government though equal distribution is considered in those alleged to be the main ministries still majority are dinka.
    in addition, dinka bor to me can not even deserve a single seat in the national government because most of the ministries in the state government are occupied by them. t, as the main ministries in addition to the governor the most failed governor in the whole of southern sudan,the finance , the speaker all are occupied by this minority dinka at the expense of nuer majority in the state.
    so their cry is useless, let them relinguish gubernutoral position to other tribes in the state if they need good representation in the national government.

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  • 30 August 2011 15:54, by Brainy

    I have always hoped to see the day when the people of South Sudan refer to each other as South Sudanese. But I’m now sure that won’t happen soon. When I heard that there’re some clans camping around Salva’s residence in the name of lobbying for their sons’ ministerial positions, I thought this was just merely a joke. Now this Dinka Bor Youth Group! (I’m sure you can get a better name than that, like South Sudan Liberators).

    What would Nuer from Unity State, where the largest oil reserve is located, say?

    I have nothing but to sympathise with our dear president (God bless you sir).

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  • 30 August 2011 16:12, by Cadaai ?o?

    Historian and Identity Advocacy View:

    This is my advice to you Mr. Quol Quot, to me you seem like a good behavior person. But you need to add one thing in average IQ, and what is that? It is history and identity of people. If you need to be leader in future, you need to learn history, etc. Dinka Twic East, Dinka Bor and Dinka Duk are different tribes from one another.

    Few examples from these two tribes:

    Tï? (Dinka Twic East) ???m (Dinka Bor, and I did come across tribe who use "???m" in South Sudan yet.
    Wït (Dinka Twic Ea?t) Yuït (Dinka Bor)
    Kiir (Dinka Twic East) Ciir (Dinka Bor)
    L?g?k (Dinka Twic East) L?jik (Dinka Bor)
    Kuïn (Dinka Twic Ea?t) Cuïl (Dinka Bor)
    And you can go on and on.

    As I know in Dinka Twic Ea?t culture, "re?pect and di?cipline are some of their main characteristics the parents always taught their children, plu? hone?ty"

    Also I know the Dinka Twic East people are often take things in calm and steady until they reach there. No matter how the road is seem to be challenging, provide that the truth is shining at the end of tunnel.

    Furthermore, I think you have read their community message to President Kiir Mayardit. That message shows how the dignify and intelligent the Dinka Twic East people are in any public arena. Dinka Twi East people are like limstone in cooked and mixess grain when person eat them at night, he/she will identity it in his/her mouse. So the Dinka twic East people are going to be known soon than later. The government of South Sudan needs true rooted Dinka Twi person with integerity and honesty from Twi Dinka East people.

    To know more, asks anyone who has passed over the Dinka Twic East land during the movement, and he/she will tell you more about this people.

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  • 30 August 2011 16:26, by Cadaai ?o?

    Historian and Identity Advocacy View:

    I am worry for good characteristized people of Dinka Twic East whom their image will be destroyed through the wrong name of Dinka Bor. I think Dinka Twic East people need to wake up and stand alone tribe, and not being the follower of Dinka Bor people who had ben born with bad behaviors.

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  • 30 August 2011 16:29, by Cadaai ?o?

    Historian and Identity Advocacy View:

    Smart Dinka Twi East person knows what being played here, but the fool apples are not aware of it.

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  • 30 August 2011 16:41, by Cadaai ?o?

    Historian and Identity Advocacy View:

    This is my secret to guys, "you are being used as coverup for the protest, why there is no any mention of Dinka Bor names in complained people lists? Why the complain is being based on Dinka Twic East people like Malok, Majak, and many more? Something wrong here if IQ person from Dinka Twi East is watching."

    Good luck Dinka Twi East if you would like to be second citizen or follower.

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  • 30 August 2011 18:21, by Dinkawarrior

    Cadaai or Joseph Garang de Amok!
    You’re really dump asses Tuic indeed! The so called (Camathuai) do you know that your destroying the name Tuic? Look how stupidity you are!


    “Third, as Twic East County we have this people already in high positions of South Sudan government”
    (1) Atem de Garang in higher position
    (2) Lual de Achuek Deng still there
    (3) Majak de Agoot in deputy position were he has seniority
    (4) Atem de Yak Atem
    (5) We believe Nyandeng de Mabior will be there
    (6) Malok de Aleng as well will be in another high position in government
    (7) Aguer de Manyang
    (8) Jurkuch de Barach
    (9) Bior de Ajang
    (10) Chol de piowei
    (12) And many more in your administration positions and some are coming


    There are three things give us evident that you’re unwise Tuic, which will distress anybody in whole Tuic.

    (A) You try to tell us that Garang was liberating Tuic from Bor! And it’s understandable

    (B) You tell us that Kiir is from Twic that is why all Tuic are holding high position in every corner of whole South Sudan

    (C) The word (DE in Dinka mean belong to) as John Garang used to be called John Garang de Mabior! Now you tell us that all Tuic will do the same as you mentioned in the above names. And that is the reason you call yourself Joseph Garang de Amok

    Do you see how foolish you are? I believed there are wise enough Tuic people who are going to fight against your behaviors because you bring shameful to their names. Let the intelligent Tuic talk rather then you dump ass! Do you need only Tuic people to buy your books? You will sorry for your self

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  • 30 August 2011 18:26, by Dinkawarrior

    Cadaai or Joseph Garang de Amok!
    You’re really dump asses Tuic indeed! The so called (Camathuai) do you know that your destroying the name Tuic? Look how stupidity you are!

    “Third, as Twic East County we have this people already in high positions of South Sudan government”
    (1) Atem de Garang in higher position
    (2) Lual de Achuek Deng still there
    (3) Majak de Agoot in deputy position were he has seniority
    (4) Atem de Yak Atem
    (5) We believe Nyandeng de Mabior will be there
    (6) Malok de Aleng as well will be in another high position in government
    (7) Aguer de Manyang
    (8) Jurkuch de Barach
    (9) Bior de Ajang
    (10) Chol de piowei
    (12) And many more in your administration positions and some are coming

    There are three things give us evident that you’re unwise Tuic, which will distress anybody in whole Tuic.

    (A) You try to tell us that Garang was liberating Tuic from Bor! And it’s understandable

    (B) You tell us that Kiir is from Twic that is why all Tuic are holding high position in every corner of whole South Sudan

    (C) The word (DE in Dinka mean belong to) as John Garang used to be called John Garang de Mabior! Now you tell us that all Tuic will do the same as you mentioned in the above names. And that is the reason you call yourself Joseph Garang de Amok

    Do you see how foolish you are? I believed there are wise enough Tuic people who are going to fight against your behaviors because you bring shameful to their names. Let the intelligent Tuic talk rather then you dump ass! Do you need only Tuic people to buy your books? You will be sorry for your self

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    • 30 August 2011 18:48, by Cadaai ?o?

      Dinkaworrior

      Historian and Identity advocacy is childish acts or responses, I can’t waste my time response. Because wisdom sound more than fool sound.

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      • 30 August 2011 19:41, by Quol Quot

        @Cadaai?o?

        What are you playing? Politics? It is too late, for the Bhar el Ghazal people to treat you as one of them, maybe? We are all in the same boat sir.
        Those who are looking revenge will even hurt you, not Bor people.

        It is Bor that you are pushing away that can come to your rescue first if something bad happens to Twic East than the Bhar el Ghazal people.

        To your disappointment, anybody on the other side of the Nile is still calling you Bor.

        You quote John Garang Several times but you forgot one of his quotes. He said that ’everybody is seeking alliances’ including the powerful countries. So those who are looking for success should always seek alliances not alienation Why are you seeking division and discord among people.

        People of your type have succeeded in dividing up the church in the early 2000’s but what have you gained from that division now? The only reason was that you did not like the name Bor Diocese. You went and even had more problems than anybody else when naming your own diocese and you ended with several unnecessary Bishops who are preaching hatred.

        Now you are working for Dinka Twic establishment. After you succeeed, you will work for Dinka Kongor establishment, Dinka Awulian etc, like you did with the diocese. Is this not Madness?

        Also you are trying to label Garang Mabior as a tribal Hero from Dinka Twic? Ok... if that is the source of the pride, then shouldn’t Awulian people even claim that he is not just from Twic anymore, but he is an Awulian Man and the Awulian should be more glorify than any other section in Twic? Garang Mabior is a hero for everybody including all non Dinka people and Equatorians. He did not advocate any of his cases using your style. Your style is cheap tactic that will not bear fruits but problems.

        After all what is the gain, since Garang is dead?

        Quol Quot

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        • 30 August 2011 20:43, by Cadaai ?o?

          Quol Quot

          Historian and identit Advocacy View:

          Our gain is what Dr. John Garang left behind as Freedom to South Sudanese and Sudanese at large. Eventhough he die through unanticipated death, according to his culture of Dinka Twic East believes, if you die after you have completed what you have surpposed to achieve, they do oppositley as victorious rather than death in vain.

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        • 30 August 2011 21:19, by Dakkin

          Quol Manyang,

          The gain is history and good reputation of the people which you are trying to steal if not spoil, either way you have nothing to loose as bor.

          Each tribe in south have lot of clans and no problem, sory half cast dinka bor!

          Why do you bor like useless talk many time?
          Because you want every person/leader in south to become useless like Bor like Quol Manyang

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  • 31 August 2011 05:35, by Odingo

    Coward Dinka Bor
    You are lacking you got two deputy ministers. Next time you will get nothing.

    It is well known in world wide that it was Dinka Bhar El Ghazal, Equatorian and Nuer led by Keribino Kuanyin Bol, Benson Kuany Latjor and Joseph Lago who first went to bush against foreign conrol. Not you Dinka Bor.

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    • 31 August 2011 08:41, by Madingthith

      @Odingo

      Thanks so much Odingo, you are very right by figuring out the right and obvious point that every and every persons knows in South Sudan

      The Pioneer of the SPLA/M struggles their names are as below:-

      1. Kerubino Kuanyin Bol-From Bhar El Ghazal region fired the first bullet in Pibor on 16th May 1983.

      2. Benson Kuany Latjor- From Upper Nile region esp.Nasir

      3. Fr Saturino - From Eastern Equatoria who fired his first bullet on Arabs 1955

      4. Joseph Lagu- From Eastern Equatoria

      These are the pioneers of the Southern Sudan rebellion.

      My fellow Bor Youth, cooperate and bring peace amongst your people instead of complaining about formation of the cabinet, I will make some amalgamation in my next government such that you Bor Guys shut up your mouth.

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  • 31 August 2011 07:14, by Good Citizen

    First of all COUNT your selves as Dinka, NOT, crying like a moron; Oh we are Dinka Fat Ass, we are Dinka Big ASS, we are Dinka FUCK, We are Dinka SEX, WE are Dinka FOOD, we are Dinka IDIOTS etc. other communities/tribes have various sub-sections or clans within their wider ethnic groups, why are they not complaining? u better understand this u good for nothing creatures. Bari community have as many clans as there are in Otuho, Pojulu,Kakwa, Mundari, Toposa, Didinga, Acholi, Nuer, Fertit, Balanda, Kresh, shilluk, etc, why do they not demand for clan tribe representation let alone their various clans? are u seeing how idiotic and moronic you are,monkey sheepish?
    don’t look at the government as the source of FOOD! rely on yourself like good people of Equatoria..that way you will help your sorry self.

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    • 31 August 2011 08:57, by Dinkawarrior

      Odingo, Good Citizen for Nothing!
      First of all, you guys sound senselessly as you don’t understand the word coward as you mentioned. Here is an example of cowardice people like you “in Juba at the time of Arab occupation we have been humiliated by the militaries in front of each other, they fuck your wife, your daughter, and yourself which is not there in our culture”

      The words from Equatoria man who is close friend of mind, this kinds of abusive behaviors wouldn’t be done to the Dinka man. He will die immediately with those dogs or those donkeys with such ideas of fucking man ass.
      Secondly, I don’t want to talk about uncle Joseph Lago!


      Mr. Odingo!
      Hahah! Hahah! Hahah! You’re teasing me indeed, I never heard such Dinka tribes.
      Dinka-Bhar El Ghazal,
      Dinka-Equatorian
      Dinka-Nuer


      If you need help to know sub clans of Dinka then I will give you hands, below are coteries of the Dinka people!
      1-Aweil Dinka
      2-Abyei Dinka
      3-Bailiet Dinka
      4-Bentiu Dinka
      5-Bor Dinka
      6-Gogrial Dinka
      7-Pangak Dinka
      8-Rubek Dinka
      9-Tony Dinka
      10-Yirol Dinka


      Cadaai or Joseph Garang de Amok
      Tell us your dad, mom, and grandfather’s history! And we will believe your Historian and identity Advocacy View! I know you want to get something from Nyaneng de Bior! Hahaha hahaha! Shame on you!

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      • 31 August 2011 08:59, by Dinkawarrior

        Correction- Nyandeng de Mabiordit!

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  • 13 September 2011 19:57, by John Costa

    It would have been great if the letter delivered out in the name of South Sudan people. You may need to send the letter as it is to your governor, not to the president of South Sudan. When community organizes itself, it should not be greedy, but they should work for the greater good of the nation. If it is done in a nice way, the entire society will benefit, not only fraction of people within your community. You should also go far by trying to win the president’s tribe. That is the only way to fight for a just community.

    Bor Community will earn trust, win leadership, and mount respect from the general community in Southern Sudan if it was to represent the entire people of South Sudan. The objective of the letter is already damned. The letter is pity, and is alluding to your community fear of losing power. You gain power by giving it a way, not by holding in to it. You had it during the movement, but now, you need to convince the people of South Sudan. I am writing this with respect to your community. They have contributed very well in the Diaspora community as well in South Sudan. Be an example, and work for the good of the commonwealth of South Sudan. Why narrowing yourselves into representing your community despite our later leader Dr. John Garang who earn his respect by deed and hard work? We would love if you would make this concern national.

    Your Press Release approaches the problem through ethnocentric prospective. Therefore, it has lost its credential and authenticity. I cannot support it, or feel proud about it; because it is tribal. You will only get limited support? Speak national, you get national supporter, speak local, you get your own people.

    Reverse the whole things, and imagine your tribe is ruling, and is dominating every high position int he government, what will you expect the other to say? I guess, you have not thought about that.

    We need to have national consensus based on the people of Southern Sudan, not based on any tribe’s perspective. If I vote for any of you to be the president of South Sudan, I will want to vote without looking at your tribal label. Education like the swords edge, it builds, and it destroys. You are destroying unity within Dinka communities, and within South Sudan communities as a whole.

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