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February 7, 2011 (KHARTOUM) — The separatist northern Sudanese Forum of Just Peace (FJP) today celebrated in Khartoum the announcement of the final results of southern Sudan referendum, which show that Southerners unanimously voted in favor of separation from the north.

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FJP members celebrate the results of the referendum on the secession of southern Sudan from the north in Khartoum, on Feb 7, 2011. (Getty)

The head of Southern Sudan Referendum Commission declared Monday that almost 99 percent of voters preferred the secession from the north and the creation of an independent state.

President Omer Hassan Al-Bashir endorsed the outcome of the vote saying peace is the ultimate goal of the 2005 peace agreement as he wants to respect the will of Southerners.

FJP supporters celebrated the event by slaughtering a black bull and shouting slogans such as "Goodbye to unity of tears and blood" and "secession is the true independence". Also some of them wore tee—shirts with a new map of North Sudan.

The ruling National Congress Party and its allies already criticized the "negative" acts of expression by the forum at the start of the referendum vote on 9 January. At the time, the FJG supporters slaughtered a bull outside the SPLM headquarters in Khartoum. They also toured several areas in Khartoum and distributed sweets.

The forum was founded by Al-Tayeb Mustafa, an uncle of President Omer Al-Bashir. He is also the publisher of Al-Intibaha "The Alert", which is the mouthpiece of the party.

Al-Tayeb had one of his sons killed during the North-South civil war in the 90’s as a recruit in the government militias. Many commentators and observers accused him of inciting hatred and racism through his writings.

In Juba, southerners danced and waved SPLM flags in the streets of the town where the celebration of the independence is scheduled to take place on 9 July in the presence of president Al-Bashir.

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  • 8 February 2011 10:04, by Dinkanuer

    It’s not true, they are abusing the results.

    By Dinkanuer!

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    • 8 February 2011 11:25, by Gatwech

      Dinka-Nuer,

      Were you born to lie?

      Ngundeng’s father was Bong and his mother called Nyayiel.

      Read the book called "The Nuer Prophet" written by Western Writers. You will see that his birth story is compared to that of Isaac between Abraham and Sarah.

      Nyayiel was barren and gave birth to Ngundeng when she was very old. That is why he is called Ngun-deng, or God’s Gift.

      Don’t depend on lying, otherwise your culture and dignity is at stake here. You will get addicted to lying and become a useless untruthworthy person.

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      • 8 February 2011 11:34, by Gatwech

        Dear readers,

        Wow! What a God’s prophet called Ngundeng! Thanks God for revealing our future destiny through his prophet Ngundeng.

        Ngundeng predicted that the country (Sudan) shall split, and here it is!

        Hello, readers, before I explain to you some of the Ngundeng’s predictions which have resulted to Bashir’s official acceptance of independence, I want to inform you that I am a Christian, believing in Jesus Christ and his father, Jehovah.

        I cannot accept somebody who thinks of Ngundeng as God, but I will agree with the one that calls him simply a God’s prophet.

        I don’t believe in Ngundeng as a God, but I believe that he is God’s prophet because his words have become true and being fulfilled.

        Several major events he prophesied have come true in front of our very own eyes. A Satan cannot predict people of God’s destiny like us in South Sudan if God himself did not give him his vision as his prophet to foretell them on his behalf.

        I don’t worship Moses, or Ezekiel or Elijah because I know that they are just God’s prophets for Israelis just like Ngundeng for God’s people in the South. So, I worship God, not his prophets like Ngundeng or Moses.

        But I believe in their messages because God gave the messages to them. This is why Ngundeng in his songs he said that he is a “Prophet with a vision given to him by God,” when he said in Nuer language “Ghok mi ca kam neeni wang ni Deng.” And he continued to say that “waar kene cang nene ke ken dial,”, or “I see through both night and day.” He might mean that he could see both “revealed and hidden issues.”

        Now back to the topic, if you can all refer to the messages or predictions about Ngundeng which our brother Gatkuoth Deng posted on this website and on Southsudannation.com in 2008/9, you will exactly find the current situation of 2011 being a fulfillment of Ngundeng’s prediction as was in his article about three years ago.

        In that article by Gatkuoth Deng, entitled ‘Ngundeng’s predictions’, Gatkuoth said that Ngundeng said there will be time when the leaders of the North (Rol Mac) will be calm and confine themselves to the North during the request of our land (referendum).

        He said in Nuer, “Rol mac be biet piny ba gueth de luoc e deng, thiece yang cia mi jiak, bi ghok marol a luoc, tare tet kun dong bia te kuee te ke tot ti koang ke lia, ca ben han deng luak jala ke mac mi riaw how.”

        In English he said, “Jalaba will be calm and confine itself, God will overcome his power (arrogance). If I ask for my land is not bad, the leaders of the North will summit, lift up your hands, may be you will have survivors. I have come, the God of the land, holding a weapon that lightens the skies.”

        Well, if you liken that prediction to the surprising positive behavior of northern leaders while we are asking for our land (referendum), it exactly depicts the prediction of Ngundeng. The North has been calm while we carried out the referendum. It has also accepted the results. That is surprising to many people around the world!!!

        And not only had the north, even in the South the new behavior of people during the referendum surprised the whole world. God controlled the behavior of the people as they voted for that ONE HAND (separation) as predicted by Ngundeng.

        Even cattle raiders that used to defy authorities in the South suddenly became calm and stopped cattle raiding during the God’s fulfillment of his prediction. It was a God’s final decision making to free his people through the referendum and he controlled the hearts of the people in the South and the hearts of the northern leaders in the North.

        Remember that in the Bible, God directly intervened by sanctioning Pharaoh’s Egypt through many miraculous events including turning water red and killing the first born of Egyptians until Pharoah backed down and allowed the children of Israel to leave Egypt to the Promised Land.

        Now our God has been using the international community such as the Americans to sanction Bashir’s northern government in order to allow the referendum to take place and accept the vote for secession. Bashir was known for defying American sanctions for very long time since 1997, but now because of God’s prediction, Bashir has surprisingly complied dramatically! What a prediction!

        But that is not all!

        What next?

        Well, before you call me a prophet of doom, I want to tell you that it is not over yet. The final war is coming!
        The present Pharoah (Bashir) has told Moses (Salva Kiir), take your people to the Promised Land.

        Well, the same Pharoah or another sudden new Pharoah may change his mind and want to stop our match as we finally cross the Red Sea to the Promised Land in July (day of declaration of independence).

        Something may happen between now and July 9!

        And that will bring the final war. A brief but terrible war that will defeat the northern army and control of our borders as predicted by Ngundeng. And that will mark the official birth of the new nation in the South.

        Ngundeng said the North will surprisingly start that war. I don’t know how, when and why it will occur, but definitely according to Ngundeng’s prophesies, it will!!!

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        • 8 February 2011 11:51, by Peter Mading

          Which course of direction shall we Southerners take mr. Gatwech?

          To believe in prophecy or to believe according to the nature by which God has created the Universe in a week time?

          The Politics in Sudan is dated back in 18th Century and maybe Ngundeng had prophesis on the fate of Sudan.

          Why not hitting the target on this article which jalaba has celebrated the separation? What is your view here?
          Can you tell?

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          • 8 February 2011 12:34, by Jeti Leek

            Forgive Gatwech, please!

            He’s stupefied in believing in Nyundeng’s prophecies. Nyundeng is a Nuer-Lou’s prophet and not all Nuers believe in him as their god.

            What we want to do now is to rebuild our war ravaged new country and leave aside anything to do with tribalism, Ngundeng prophecies, corruption, etc.

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        • 8 February 2011 12:36, by Liberator

          Gatwech

          You’re absolutely dead on! the war is not over..,,, Final war is around the corner.

          Here is the article that Gatkuoth Deng wrote on South Sudan nation a few months ago:

          Tips about NGUNDENG’s prophesies on South Sudan independence By Gatkuoth Deng, USA

          NOV. 10/2010, SSN; For the last two weeks I have been receiving several email messages in my account by people from various South Sudanese communities asking me to provide some tips about Ngundeng’s prophesies in the run up to the referendum on South Sudan’s independence. This to them is because I wrote three articles about Ngundeng’s prophesies more than a year ago, some of which they now think are beginning to take shape as predicted.
          I would however say that I am not interested to respond to some of their direct questions they want me to answer because some are very sensitive to write about. Besides, I will not be able to provide correct answers to some of them because of difficulty of interpretations. I know many people from the Nuer community, especially elders, already know about many of them and can interpret them with ease. I will only comment on two obvious scenarios that Prophet Ngundeng predicted would happen and nobody is going to avoid. These two are FINAL WAR with the North at around referendum and INDEPENDENCE of the South.
          INDEPENDENCE OF THE SOUTH
          Ngundeng made it clear in many of his songs that his people (southerners) will finally have their own independent country. In his songs in which he described Jalaba (Northern Sudan) as ‘Marol’ or ‘rol maac’ he said his flag will not be mixed with the flag of jallaba. In Nuer he said ‘ca beera bi mat ke beer roal.’ This means different countries because two national flags symbolize two different nations. He also mentioned about the current ten states in the South which recently came into being in 1993 in the federal system introduced by President Omer Hassan Al-Bashir.
          FINAL WAR WITH THE NORTH
          This will never be avoided despite our leaders’ efforts in the South trying to avoid any resumption of war with the North through peaceful process of the referendum and acceptance of its outcome. The North is going to impose war on the South whether the South like it or not. This is what you can understand in Ngundeng’s prophesies in which he predicted final war with the North. This is when he said, “I am tired of getting afraid, people of my father, I have been trying to avoid war for very long time; the previous war will be different, I am ceasing to get afraid…I will fight one fight that I will not avoid, the God for which I built my bases. God has declared bring me my shield, my dang (rode) has made a thundering sound…Jalaba I will kill you that the dead will not be counted…’ In a sign of military defeat finally he said, “Rol maac bi duac leer ba lik de theeng, lik gaan deang ba theeng; (Jallaba I will beat you as I chase you and the thundering sounds shall be heard, the thundering sounds of God’s children shall be heard.”
          In that final and brief war Ngundeng predicted that it will similarly occur in the national capital, Khartoum, when he said “the city of Khartoum baari, it has made my eyes drip with blood…in the city you see blood will overflow the flags and it will equal to no country.’
          Some of Ngundeng’s prophesies, which were passed on to generations in form of songs, were either in parables or nicknames when it comes to personalities or some of the leaders he mentioned. One may easily interpret some and find it difficult to interpret others with accuracy. In some it is difficult to know the personalities involved as well as locations and timing of the predicted events. Others are however easy to understand.
          For example, Ngundeng predicted more than one hundred years ago of a leader to come whom he described as ‘tik yual kuoth bi mac de bool’ in Nuer, and translates ‘The flames of fire of God’s long bearded [man] shall be widespread.’ People during the war time thought it could be either late John Garang or Salva Kiir because of their long beards.
          If we assume that he meant late John Garang, then people would think of the 21 years of war Garang led as the widespread flames of fire. But why did Ngundeng call him ‘God’s long bearded man?’ Could this be that God knew Garang was going to die like a sacrifice to God for his people, or what did it mean? Also remember that in Nuer the word ‘kuoth’ means both ‘God’ or its ‘spiritual being.’ However, Deng means the perceived physical being of God.
          And if we assume that it is Salva Kiir, does it mean another resumed war that Kiir will lead? In some of his predictions in which people think he again referred to Salva Kiir is when he mentioned him as ‘Gat Yardit’ which translates as ‘Son of Yardit’ when he said in his songs as ‘Gat Yardit cang lathne run bie dhili ngac muoce weah I bi cuor riang.’ This translates as ‘Son of Yardit, even if we take years, you will know, I will feed the vultures and get satisfied.’
          Another one is the nickname ‘Kiir Nyal Diing’ which translates as ‘Kiir with many colors.’ He said ‘Kiir Nyal Diing bie ku juoc lom’ (or Kiir with many colors will bring me messages or gossips). These are some of the confusions one cannot clarify or interpret correctly.
          Also many think he mentioned Riek Machar Teny in some of his songs by his third name ‘Teny’. For example, in some of his songs he said ‘bi koak yaanda hoong, ci Teny ku gier kene Dayom…ba ji guori kon nak, ba ke nak ni ke nak Diam…ba tuong guori yap daar.’ This translates, ‘the grave of my cow (land) will be wide open, Teny and Dayom (follower) have made thunderous sounds…I will first kill the military officers, I will kill them like the killing of Diam (Diang?)…the military ranks will be cut in half. People say the military officers mean those that died during the war.
          In a separate mention of Teny he said, ‘Ci tut gueth ci wii e rew, tut Teny gueth ci wi e rew.’ This translates ‘The bull has become powerful, the country has become two, the bull of Teny has become powerful; the country has become two.’ There are other instances where he also mentioned the name ‘Riek.’ Also he mentioned something about ‘left-handed’ person, when he said ‘ci cam ku juor rool…’ or ‘the left-handed has surpassed in the nation…’
          Again, people assume that those prophesied names and many others have to do with the present Vice President, whose first name is Riek, third name is Teny and also left-handed.
          Ngundeng predicted that finally the South will fight and win a brief and terrible war for independence, which the North will impose on the South. He predicted a defeat of the northern army and the full control of an independent South.
          Many people see the return of Ngundeng’s dang (rode) last year as symbolizing the return of power that shall finally overcome the northern aggression. In his songs, Ngundeng said Marol e han maac thok kuoth ni keelo, ba nyuur luak ke paduil tuotha dang…’ It translates ‘Jalaba, let me remind you that God is one, I will be seated [wait] in my luak (South Sudan) polishing my dang (rode). ‘Polishing my dang’ to many people is a parable which means preparing war machinery.
          When dang was brought back to South Sudan from England after 80 years in exile some people were concerned about its snake-like shape, coiled on both ends. Some asked why it looked like the shape of a snake which symbolizes evil, if it were to be something related to God. Well, this is one of the things we may never have an answer to. Even the rode of Moses in the Bible was one time turned into a snake by God in order to swallow the other sticks of Egyptian magicians which turned into snakes. And yet it was the same rode that God gave Moses to cross the people of Israel through the Red Sea. It was also the same rode which was turned into a snake that he struck the mountain with and water gushed out from it in the desert for God’s people to drink.
          Maybe Ngundeng’s reminder to Jallaba that “God is one” could be an answer he was trying to give to Jallaba who thought that they were given permission by the same God to oppress the people of South Sudan. Also Ngundeng acknowledged and gave a clue to those who wanted a final decision on the North-South conflict when he said,‘e han Deng emo kua ngeer ewa thiele gik mi lara, guice cuur en taathe, cango bake nako cet ke hook lang....e han wut mi bi luak da riw cet ke pai.’ It translates ‘It is me Deng (God) that people gossip about that I don’t make final decisions; look at what I am building up; the day I will kill them like cattle…I am the man whose luak (land) will shine like moon.’
          To be continued…
          The author is a South Sudanese living in USA, and can be reached at gatkuothlam@yahoo.com

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      • 8 February 2011 13:03, by Dinkanuer

        Gatwech

        Both Bong and Nyayiel were parenting her, and those boys who brought Nyajok Ngundeng out of the river were believingly to be between seven to nine years old.
        After Fish Ngundeng changed to be Human Ngundeng, she was expected to be ninteen to twenty one years.

        The sam liars we heard from Mahamed so many years a go upto today are what your trying to applied them to brainwash people. God will punish those who are misleading his own people otherwise you have to quit telling us such a nonsense of your Profit Ngundeng. She was not a Prophet but he was a Profit.

        Hiw did the whitemen knew about your Devil? They Wrote what they heard from your people long times ago

        For those who are still using Ngundeng ideologically, please be inform! Ngundeng had shameful things to be said about him. First,

        He was not a Prophet but a profit to his royalist in Nuer.
        He had many names according to his activities in many parts of South Sudan.
        He was a Cannibal animal according to Nuer man who doesn’t need to be mentioned
        His first name was Ngundeng-meaning that he was send by God.
        After he gone wild and ran away.
        His name changed to be Gatluakmanguel in Nuer dialect.
        He ate many Nuer men and women in Nuer Land
        Dinka. His name was Manyang e Juet.
        He ate many children, animal claviers and cows’s bulls in Dinka Land.
        Equatoria with different languages including English and Arabic
        His name was Tiger

        The Nuer man who refused to be target by Ngundeng’s salves pointed out that. Ngundeng had no father or mother but the Devil who came out in the River Nile in a form of fish, when the Nuer boys want for fishing. They fish for so many hours and they caught nothing, when the boys get tied and ready to go back home. One of them told other guys that there was a fish ate his hook lastly, the boy convinced other friends to tried one more time! Shortly after he putted on snail body on the hook, he had thrown it into Nile River. Immediately, Ngundeng was caught. The boy was attempting to pull the Fish Ngundeng out in the river but it was difficult for him to do so, then he called his associates to pull Ngundeng on the shore. They brought it out and they were smile some of them were told to go and collect firewood in order for the young men to roast their fish.
        Unfortunately! The Fish Ngundeng changed into big snake! And the boys ran away from it, the boys thought that they were dreaming and they came back for the second times. The Snake Ngundeng light it body and become bright as well as electricity light. They ran home and they spread the news to the community, when the Nuer elders came to the place where Ngundeng was pulled. It was still there as snake with it light. People gather together around it and started asking question how did this happen? The Snake Ngundeng changed into human being and told people not to run away. All of them were shocking and scary to death except Human Ngundeng who perform such witchcraft. things "Come down, come down now!" The Human Ngundeng said. Who are you? The Nuer elders asked him. I am Nyajok_ which mean woman devil! The Human Ngundeng answer! She knew her own physical appearance as she is a hermaphrodite. (A person with both the organs of a man and a woman) Wow! Brothers and sisters of Nuer I am sorry for your Profit. Nyajok Ngundeng was not a Prohet? It was your profit to cheat people for his power but It was not a Prophet? It was a Satan?

        Cie liel du dem e mac!

        By Dinkanuer

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      • 8 February 2011 13:08, by Dinkanuer

        Gatwech

        Both Bong and Nyayiel were parenting her, and those boys who brought Nyajok Ngundeng out of the river were believingly to be between seven to nine years old.
        After Fish Ngundeng changed to be Human Ngundeng, she was expected to be ninteen to twenty one years.

        The sam liars we heard from Mahamed so many years a go upto today are what your trying to applied them to brainwash people. God will punish those who are misleading his own people otherwise you have to quit telling us such a nonsense of your Profit Ngundeng. She was not a Prophet but he was a Profit.

        Hiw did the whitemen knew about your Devil? They Wrote what they heard from your people long times ago

        For those who are still using Ngundeng ideologically, please be inform! Ngundeng had shameful things to be said about him. First,

        He was not a Prophet but a profit to his royalist in Nuer.
        He had many names according to his activities in many parts of South Sudan.
        He was a Cannibal animal according to Nuer man who doesn’t need to be mentioned
        His first name was Ngundeng-meaning that he was send by God.
        After he gone wild and ran away.
        His name changed to be Gatluakmanguel in Nuer dialect.
        He ate many Nuer men and women in Nuer Land
        Dinka. His name was Manyang e Juet.
        He ate many children, animal claviers and cows’s bulls in Dinka Land.
        Equatoria with different languages including English and Arabic
        His name was Tiger

        The Nuer man who refused to be target by Ngundeng’s salves pointed out that. Ngundeng had no father or mother but the Devil who came out in the River Nile in a form of fish, when the Nuer boys want for fishing. They fish for so many hours and they caught nothing, when the boys get tied and ready to go back home. One of them told other guys that there was a fish ate his hook lastly, the boy convinced other friends to tried one more time! Shortly after he putted on snail body on the hook, he had thrown it into Nile River. Immediately, Ngundeng was caught. The boy was attempting to pull the Fish Ngundeng out in the river but it was difficult for him to do so, then he called his associates to pull Ngundeng on the shore. They brought it out and they were smile some of them were told to go and collect firewood in order for the young men to roast their fish.
        Unfortunately! The Fish Ngundeng changed into big snake! And the boys ran away from it, the boys thought that they were dreaming and they came back for the second times. The Snake Ngundeng light it body and become bright as well as electricity light. They ran home and they spread the news to the community, when the Nuer elders came to the place where Ngundeng was pulled. It was still there as snake with it light. People gather together around it and started asking question how did this happen? The Snake Ngundeng changed into human being and told people not to run away. All of them were shocking and scary to death except Human Ngundeng who perform such witchcraft. things "Come down, come down now!" The Human Ngundeng said. Who are you? The Nuer elders asked him. I am Nyajok_ which mean woman devil! The Human Ngundeng answer! She knew her own physical appearance as she is a hermaphrodite. (A person with both the organs of a man and a woman) Wow! Brothers and sisters of Nuer I am sorry for your Profit. Nyajok Ngundeng was not a Prohet? It was your profit to cheat people for his power but It was not a Prophet? It was a Satan?

        Cie liel du dem e mac!

        By Dinkanuer

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      • 8 February 2011 16:52, by Quol Quot

        why do they slaughter a black bull? Sudan or belad al sud, "land of the black". They are trying to guise their anguish in false happiness.

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      • 9 February 2011 04:36, by LongTweng

        ngundeng everyday is so bhoring right on my nose!!!!!

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    • 9 February 2011 06:01, by Deng Ateny Lueth

      Wow!!!, what does the black bull slaughtered in khartoum resemble today. some hardliners in the north thought that with separating from the rest of sudan will end war. it is just a rest being taken here and we are coming back so long Nuba, and people of blue nile are still in the bondage. we are not liberated yet. remember Khartoum used to be our ancestral home. we are coming with one last whirl wind to take it.

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  • 8 February 2011 10:25, by gabriel small

    well its good to cellebrates the outcome of our results, but we still fear you arabs, with your colabretars even if you celebrate it today.shemes to you arabs, and your collabretors.
    south sudan
    oyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
    liberators oyeeeeeeeeeeeee

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    • 8 February 2011 11:14, by Peter Mading

      To my understanding, the Celeberations conducted by the separatist has the degree of scarsm, inhumane and so ironical to well the results of the referendum in favor of South Sudan Secession.

      The Southern Sudanese are truely black African- the true inhabitants of the land Sudan- Meaning Soil of the Blacks.

      My question is if the Seperatist where celebrating the Separation of the South from the North what does killing or slaughtering the black bull symbolise in their celebration?

      We are Southerners, we are black and we are pastoralists and we own cattle and value them. In light, of this kind of the celebration marked by the separatist in hiden rat holes- i do not trust their celebration which is so hypocratic.

      We do slaghter white bulls in such events and not black bulls. Slaughtering a black bull really symbolise the dark and impurity hearts of Separatist to company Southerners in that manner. Even if it is the arab culture there is no point of slaughtering the black bull to earmark the occassion that is worldwide respected. I do not even welcome your celebration as a sign of happinies and soldarity. You are abusing us.

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      • 8 February 2011 11:47, by Gatwech

        Peter Mading,

        I agree with you. Slaughtering a black bull is not okay with us because it means killing our black color as well as our black land.

        We always slaughter white bulls or any other color. But black color is so dear to us.

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        • 8 February 2011 12:42, by Peter Mading

          Thank you Gatwech for having the same view and observed it properly.

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      • 8 February 2011 11:54, by Jalaby

        Mr. Peter,

        What’s up man??!! are you angry just because of the black bull??!! I have never seen a white bull in Sudan (white means white), have you ever seen a white man like milk?

        people around all the world slay black bull everyday, does that insult you by any means??!!

        I think we need to raise this issue to animal right group to ask people not to slay black bull because that will isnult African people!!!

        I wish if I was able to celebrate south secession with them because that will cure our bleeding body since 1955, there is no chance for dual citizen, we rejected Mr. Kiir deal by giving us 50% of the south oil + Abyei in return of dual citizen to southerners!

        Jalaby (Abo Tagia)

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        • 8 February 2011 12:47, by Miamangawai

          I wonder the bashir’s speech that: Peace is an ultimate goal. Since Bashir knew it well that Peace is ultimate, why can’t he solve the great problem of Darfur that remains another issue in Sudan. He says this just because he fears the danger of ICC.
          You mean slaughtering Black bull is similar to slaughter Black people? Arabs could celebrate the South Seperation because they want to kick Al-bashir out and Southerners are tougher than bashir. Now, they are rejoicing but they could not celebrate with Black bull.
          Al-tayeb being bashir’s uncle, what made him to get the lead in celebrating the events? Is it because bashir killed his own son or it is trick played by his nephew?

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        • 8 February 2011 12:53, by Peter Mading

          Ya Mr. Jalaba;
          Am not hungry man. I don’t need the meat of fact and slaughtered black bull. After all the people i could see in the picture of the laid carcase of the dead bull are all red and pink. I do not see faces of the black Southern Sudanese or African around waiting to running away with lumpsume of meat killed in hypocratic manner.

          I do not see your logic for your dream to have share dual citizenship and be given Abyei. You did not had enough bloodshed in this land and if you want it let us meet at Abyei boundary and dodge my dozens of AKM bullets. I will leave you if i missed you once with one single bullet.

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  • 8 February 2011 13:06, by Dinkanuer

    Gatwech

    Both Bong and Nyayiel were parenting her, and those boys who brought Nyajok Ngundeng out of the river were believingly to be between seven to nine years old.
    After Fish Ngundeng changed to be Human Ngundeng, she was expected to be ninteen to twenty one years.

    The sam liars we heard from Mahamed so many years a go upto today are what your trying to applied them to brainwash people. God will punish those who are misleading his own people otherwise you have to quit telling us such a nonsense of your Profit Ngundeng. She was not a Prophet but he was a Profit.

    Hiw did the whitemen knew about your Devil? They Wrote what they heard from your people long times ago

    For those who are still using Ngundeng ideologically, please be inform! Ngundeng had shameful things to be said about him. First,

    He was not a Prophet but a profit to his royalist in Nuer.
    He had many names according to his activities in many parts of South Sudan.
    He was a Cannibal animal according to Nuer man who doesn’t need to be mentioned
    His first name was Ngundeng-meaning that he was send by God.
    After he gone wild and ran away.
    His name changed to be Gatluakmanguel in Nuer dialect.
    He ate many Nuer men and women in Nuer Land
    Dinka. His name was Manyang e Juet.
    He ate many children, animal claviers and cows’s bulls in Dinka Land.
    Equatoria with different languages including English and Arabic
    His name was Tiger

    The Nuer man who refused to be target by Ngundeng’s salves pointed out that. Ngundeng had no father or mother but the Devil who came out in the River Nile in a form of fish, when the Nuer boys want for fishing. They fish for so many hours and they caught nothing, when the boys get tied and ready to go back home. One of them told other guys that there was a fish ate his hook lastly, the boy convinced other friends to tried one more time! Shortly after he putted on snail body on the hook, he had thrown it into Nile River. Immediately, Ngundeng was caught. The boy was attempting to pull the Fish Ngundeng out in the river but it was difficult for him to do so, then he called his associates to pull Ngundeng on the shore. They brought it out and they were smile some of them were told to go and collect firewood in order for the young men to roast their fish.
    Unfortunately! The Fish Ngundeng changed into big snake! And the boys ran away from it, the boys thought that they were dreaming and they came back for the second times. The Snake Ngundeng light it body and become bright as well as electricity light. They ran home and they spread the news to the community, when the Nuer elders came to the place where Ngundeng was pulled. It was still there as snake with it light. People gather together around it and started asking question how did this happen? The Snake Ngundeng changed into human being and told people not to run away. All of them were shocking and scary to death except Human Ngundeng who perform such witchcraft. things "Come down, come down now!" The Human Ngundeng said. Who are you? The Nuer elders asked him. I am Nyajok_ which mean woman devil! The Human Ngundeng answer! She knew her own physical appearance as she is a hermaphrodite. (A person with both the organs of a man and a woman) Wow! Brothers and sisters of Nuer I am sorry for your Profit. Nyajok Ngundeng was not a Prohet? It was your profit to cheat people for his power but It was not a Prophet? It was a Satan?

    Cie liel du dem e mac!

    By Dinkanuer

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    • 8 February 2011 14:52, by Gatwech

      Dinkanuer,

      Okay, may be you find pride in lying as a genetical urge.

      Let me not spoil your enjoyment of being a liar. Lie to yourself as the rest read the book I told you about which tells the true birth of Ngundeng.

      May be you are talking about an Anyuak born evil eye somewhere not Ngundeng.

      But enjoy the lie!

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      • 8 February 2011 15:46, by nyic rot

        Mr. Gatwach, war in sudan or spliting was not predicted by your god ngundeng but is from Isiah chapter 18 may be ngundeng might have got that information from the Bible.

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  • 9 February 2011 01:14, by Peter Puoch Ruot

    Gatwech

    You are the true genius of naath proteller brother.I believe in Ngundeng Bong`s prophecies through his songs and those who sacrified themselves to interpreted them.Ofcourse, the final war will come sooner than later, and my guess will be between the months of May and June not July as many anticipated. Like my dad or father used to told me about the prophecies of Ngundeng when I was young before he was shot dead by Jallaba, he told me that the prophecies of Ngundeng will come during my time which I am now experiencing with my own eyes. The prophet Ngundeng once said`: Ca berah bi mat ke ber rol`: meaning my flag will not be mixed with Jallaba is flag.In this context it happened since the signing of CPA we as south sudanese have been holding high the flag of south sudan ever since with the exceotion of flag of sudan.If Ngundeng is not a prophet what in the world why did we (southsudanese) voted 99.9% for the independent of south sudan? Case close to all the doubters and let us embrace our new nation and start developing it from scratch because this land has not been developed since the creation of universe.

    Long live South sudan!!

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  • 28 March 2013 16:30, by dennishobson

    RhPwOq3ZfbJcchg2zQdsvIP4TcGARrcarros ssanyong deck madeira plastica composite decking Youre so cool! I dont suppose Ive read anything like this before. So nice to find somebody with some original thoughts on this subject. realy thank you for sta

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