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July 28, 2010 (KHARTOUM) — The Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi said that Southern Sudanese would be better off picking unity over independence in the upcoming self-determination referendum.

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Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi meets local school children during a break in the African Union Summit meeting in Uganda’s capital Kampala July 26, 2010 (Reuters)

The January 9, 2011 referendum will decide whether to grant independence for south Sudan and allow the oil-rich Abyei frontier region to fasten itself to the Muslim north or the Christian and animist south.

Many regional and international players privately say that South Sudan will be better off staying with the North over concerns that the already semi-autonomous region would not be able to sustain itself particularly in terms of security should it become fully independent.

Gaddafi, who was one of the main backers of the Sudan People Liberation Movement (SPLM) since its creation in the early eighties, appealed to Southerners to remain united with the North.

"As for south Sudan, the matter depends on referendum, even though I advice brothers in the south to stay with the great Sudan instead of a dwarf country in the south" Gaddafi was quoted as saying by the Libyan state run news agency (JANA) during a special hosting at "Peace Studio" of the African Peace & Security Council in Kampala.

A year ago, South Sudan president who is also SPLM chairman Salva Kiir disclosed that he had secured a promise from Gaddafi to support southern Sudan independence.

According to Kiir, the Libyan leader informed him that if Southerners vote for independence “they shouldn’t be frightened of anybody” saying that he “will stand with them”.

Furthermore he quoted Gaddafi as saying that the British colonial power made a mistake when they allowed South Sudan to be part of the North when the country gained its independence in January 1956.

“[Gaddafi said] they should have been separated either to become an independent state or join any country in east Africa,” Kiir said.
A month later, Gaddafi reiterated in a meeting with the Darfur Justice and Equality Movement (JEM) Khalil Ibrahim that he would support the independence of South Sudan if its citizens decide so in the 2011 referendum but warned that it will become a "very weak state."

The remarks drew outcry in Khartoum but Libyan embassy officials sought to downplay their significance.

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  • 29 July 2010 07:05, by Wilson Kur Lual

    Unity with north is just a dream, it will never happen!!!!!!!!!

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    • 29 July 2010 10:25, by Hardlinner

      is Gadafi out of his senses. what sort of secure sudan is he talking about under leadership of most wanted?. we have been under united sudan since 1956 and yet we have never seen any secure state but rather failed and insecure state.

      south will be trillion percent secure and better state when it seccede from arabs government.
      infact the rest of the africans(darfurian, nuba, blue nile people, Beja and many more) will well off when they separate from the evil arabs wannabes government in north.
      since Gadafi himself is arab, and the government of sudan is ruled by arabs wannabes, there will be no way we will listen to what they say about the security of must be independent south.
      if we southerners were arabs, then the unity with north would have been the preference, but we are not, therefore south will be better off as independent state.

      to all my braves and compartriots southerners, it right time that should stop listening to what arabs countries and slave AU is saying regarding the indepedent of south and their baseless claims of what south will become when it choose indepedent. these animals(arabs) are the very people who have once partispated in killing of southerners in first and second sudan civil wars.
      we should not change our stand toward these arabs because what they want is united sudan where africans do not have equal right to those arabs wannabes. also we do not need another genocide to occur in south just in darfur and previously in south.
      if Gadafi need united sudan, he should first tell arabs wannabes government(NIF) to hand over the government to African(southerners,dafurian,nuban,beja,blue nile people and other africans in sudan), by doing so, atleast there would be little hope to save united sudan. and if not so, then there will be no united sudan.

      as long as uganda, kenya,south africa, unite state, ethiopia, west and many compartriot africans countries support south independent, this looser arabs countries will do nothing to stop us from achieving our destiny which is independent south.

      long live south independent
      to hell with united sudan.

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      • 29 July 2010 14:07, by Jay

        Southern Sudan people advice to Libyan leader Gaddaffi is; give up the one man rule, Libya will be a better country and Gaddaffi himself will have credibility to judge others.

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    • 29 July 2010 14:03, by Paul Ongee

      Gaddafi has right to say whatever he wanna say but has no right to decide for Southern Sudanese. The same applies to the Islamists in the North Sudan. They have no right to decide our destiny. Period.

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  • 29 July 2010 07:06, by Aarai Baka

    To Libyan leader

    Muammar Gaddafi, u must stand to what u have said before than reversing things.

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  • 29 July 2010 07:09, by Kur

    Well, that is our sovereign decision. We already know what we want. But we cannot accept the nonsense that South Sudan would not be able to sustain itself as an independent state. That is a total rubbish. It cannot be a reason for us to remain second citizens under the Islamic evil laws. Never.

    Kur

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  • 29 July 2010 07:20, by Kur William

    Gaddafi I really content that your remarked in the Africans summit last weekend in Kampala ,Uganda dosen,t have great effects on our fate of chosing seperation however I know the words you said are just platforms in oreder to keep your tie with South and we appreciate that kinds of reciprocity Kur

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    • 29 July 2010 07:36, by wang

      Libyan leader is a madness man, and we better to ignore his statements. It is not a first time to say something like that and I certainly belief that South is not going to be a failure state. Just wait and watch Gaddafi

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      • 29 July 2010 08:05, by CHOLTHEGREAT

        Mr. Gaddafi must know that South has never and will never be secure in the so called united Sudan. Sudan’s History is my witness. The insecurities in the South are manufactured by the North just to keep South in Chaos and instability. And I believe beyond any reasonable doubt that South will be most secure if it becomes independent State and takes full control of its affairs without influence from the North back up by Arab World.
        WARNING:- WITH UNITY SUDAN WILL NEVER BE AT PEACE WITH ITSELF AND EVEN WITH HER NEIGHBOURS believe me or not take note of that, ’’you’’ who call for Unity of Sudan. Infact Unity is the disaster and separation is the remedy if you can’t see. Better be Free other than being taken hostage by oppression. No! there is no way... struggle must continue

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  • 29 July 2010 07:40, by Simpleman

    Gaddafi is just Gaddafi, if we get our independency, are we going to import the security personnel from Libya or shall we import food from there.

    He is just trying to be bias

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  • 29 July 2010 07:42, by Sudan virus

    Gadafi looks ridiculous among the indigenous black African.

    ’’Today i support unity of south and north Sudan.Tomorrow i support separation of the south from the Muslim north,next tomorrow i support federal Sudan,next time bulabualabula’’.

    We southerns will be more comfortable staying with our weak south Sudan than the weak,Muslim terrorist north Sudan.

    Who are you(Arab) to choose us southerns a choice for our self determination in 2011 referendum.

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    • 29 July 2010 08:17, by Wudutman

      Libya Leader,
      We didn’t see that if we are united with the North part should be the good way of improving security in Southern Sudan, We have been together for all these five years and half now and no improvement in Security and development, Kadafi it is now too late for you to brief Southerners on this process of Unity, We already achieve a new Country and by all this problem we didn’t ask any help from all leaders including you, Go back to Libya with your Rasta image, We have been losing our heroes and thousands of living human being because of self determination and now we want to die once again, Go back to your Country boarder are now closing by our Leader, Don’t let your self be close out of your territory.

      By Wudutman of Lakes state,

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    • 29 July 2010 08:41, by Wudutman

      Libya Leader,
      We didn’t see that if we are united with the North part should be the good way of improving security in Southern Sudan, We have been together for all these five years and half now and no improvement in Security and development, Kadafi it is now too late for you to brief Southerners on this process of Unity, We already achieve a new Country and by all this problem we didn’t ask any help from all leaders including you, Go back to Libya with your Rasta image, We have been losing our heroes and thousands of living human being because of self determination and now we want to die once again, Go back to your Country boarder are now closing by our Leader, Don’t let your self be close out of your territory.

      By Wudutman of Lakes state,

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    • 29 July 2010 08:43, by Aduol Liet

      Muammar Gaddafi.

      You have been leading Libyan since I was not even born in Southern Sudan and now I’m getting Old and I can tell how bad you have been misleading the people of Libya is. Please before you attend to any world summit either in Africa nor the U.N. Assemble, I would like to advise you but I know you are the king of Africa dictatorship however, you need to see yourself on the mirror first, because you look very terrible to the whole world this is 21st and you must know the address code is very important particular when you are a leader, the time you are attending U.N. Assemble, I belief you turned off the young people who were watching the world leaders please acknowledge that, you look like a gang leader in the eyeing of the world.

      Well, we are not surprising about your different statement you are mixing up, we are all aware the Arab agendas are same. Doesn’t matter for us whether or not you have been dancing back and forth like that but the truths is, the most majority in Southern Sudanese are not like the Old generation which welcoming you guys to settle in Africa continent. I urgently Southern Sudanese people not to be listen to those Idiots comment. United Sudan on the mouths of Arab does not make any sense to us we Southern Sudanese people. United Sudan without evident of good government that, can do what the people want to done for them does not make any sense to us.

      There are some Southerners like uncle Dr, Maduot Prek who said, last week that, he need united of Sudan and I have consider this uncle Credit has insulted our Southern Sudanese people and I am wondering why he forgotten to list down how many people dies during two decades of the SPLA/SPLM and he should know that, what make our braver Southerners Sudanese people to loss their lives in their mother land Sudan and the Idea of big Country like Sudan without good democracy system is a meaningless to Southern Sudanese people. There is nothing actual we can think about united with North Sudan, the North Sudan is not a land for agriculture, the North Sudan is very dry land with none resources, the North Sudan has no thick trees and the North Sudan have no animals and those animals are part of economic booming why do we need unity with Northern Sudan to do what.?

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    • 29 July 2010 09:05, by Nyina-gook Palek

      Dear Southerner expect alway the idea from any sources to be forcuing on Unit of Sudan because our Oil is need not welfer of the manking in South Sudan.It will be our choose to vote and choose United Sudan and continue to be second Class citizens our own nation if we VOTE for Unity.We choosed to finish ourselves being idea from difference perepective of world.

      If we go back to the History of Europe and define coures of World WAR I AND World II,than being a weak Nation shouldn’t boost any nation of the world .Libyan Presidents,Eygt,Chad and Ereteria always try to demonstrate to colours the their relationship to Sudanese Arabs Narth but turn the negative side to the Humaniation to the South Sudan.

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  • 29 July 2010 08:33, by Grader

    Gaddafi must be joking

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  • 29 July 2010 08:54, by Padiet Deng Alony

    There is insecurity since the so called independent of sudan and at this time we want to make sure that Southern Sudan will be more secure if those terrorist of north are not with South Sudan.we are capable of securing our territory and this minor internal conflicts should not be taken as weakness. every body has weakness and strength in this world even you crazy kadhaf not gadafi, what you are doing is lobbying. this very South Sudan is not of 15 centuries, it is of 21-century. we are aware of international politic.go go to hell with your stupid word and see us again after 2011 who we are.

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  • 29 July 2010 09:16, by DASODIKO

    The is grown old, sometimes he does’t realize what he says. So please don’t take every word seriously as long as its coming out of an expired old tome President.

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    • 29 July 2010 09:35, by Nyina-gook Palek

      Our idea is our idea and decision is decision as people of South Sudan.

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  • 29 July 2010 09:42, by Abraham Chol Marial

    Dear Gadafi,
    Never try to persuade the Southerners to give up the their freedom,
    We have been staying united for more than fifty years but South Sudan still remain at the current face.
    After independece , we will be able to manage ourselves as there will be no more militias that will illegal be army by Khartoum to destablishes the South like what they are doing now.
    Don,t also reverse your mind from last year speech you delivered and we will not return back to, unless we are dead otherwise the reminant will still follow up the case till we gaint our independence.Reversal is for defeat.we are not defeated yet.

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    • 29 July 2010 19:01, by Marial Mangar Akol

      Dear readers,
      Asham...........................................................................e!!!!
      To make matter worse, his name is muammar kadafi that mean he is Muslim.
      and it is the only reason because all these Arabs people do support themselves but there is no room for Unity in Sudan except Seperation.
      so Ashame on you mr. Fox.

      May be the coming year you will be summone by ICC because you are really murderer and that is why you need Unity of Sudan because once we are united again there will be a great war rather than before, so we are not fearing of war so we only need speration sothat we develop our nation.

      My congratulation goes to those neighbouring Countries of East Africa Like Uganda who suport Seperation of Southern Sudan and the rest of the countries in the world.

      We dismiss the unity of Sudan and welcome the seperation of Southern Sudan.

      Sorry i am forgotten another thing
      i want to tell these foreigners who are now in Southern Sudan Please You make good compaign for seperation because if its fail it will affect all of us due to your business you are playing in South.

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  • 29 July 2010 09:50, by Big Boy

    Dear Muammar
    "We’ve never seen this much interest in the north any more they’ve sold our oil.they’ve valued the dentures at £4,000-5,000, but the world wouldn’t be surprised if we went off ten times that independdence up coming self-determine referendum."

    Nothing has much attention been attracting us with the north unity.

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  • 29 July 2010 10:01, by Abraham Chol Marial

    Dear Gadafi,
    Never try to persuade the Southerners to give up the their freedom,
    We have been staying united for more than fifty years but South Sudan still remain at the current face.
    After independece , we will be able to manage ourselves as there will be no more militias that will illegal be army by Khartoum to destablishes the South like what they are doing now.
    Don,t also reverse your mind from last year speech you delivered and we will not return back to, unless we are dead otherwise the reminant will still follow up the case till we gaint our independence.Reversal is for defeat.we are not defeated yet.

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  • 29 July 2010 10:45, by Akuma

    Southern Sudanese people should not take Muammar Gaddafi’s words as vital like the other revolutionary leaders of Africa. Gaddafi profile has a record that people over the word don’t want to hear.

    Inddependent of Southern Sudan will not be decide by Islamist Arabist because they are all the one who made Southern Sudanese people to suffered for long. When Jaffeer Nimeeir took up to give Southerners rights, he has been denied by him (Muammar Gaddafi) not to give Christain people irghts over Islam country. Libya has support Southern Sudanese revolution because he was not interested in Jaffeer Nimeeiri regime that why he was supporting SPLM/A movement.

    During Muammar Gaddafi visit Uganda to open Gaddafi Mosque in central Uganda Kampala, he made unforgetable statement to ugnadan ’’any Bible written without Mohamed in it is not Bible’’

    How can a claim truth leader like Muammar Gaddafi state those statement in different and chitstian nation? I think he is mental distorted because of his greeded in leadership. He think some leaders are like him.

    As per now, People of southern Sudan should not scare with Gaddafi statement because there is no African Summit where he leave/department without causing/making bad statement. He is like a child that suffered from diarrhoea.

    Let keep our dreams and vision forever!

    Dr. Akuma
    USA

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  • 29 July 2010 10:59, by Othogomoi

    Look at him(Gadaffi), who gave you him right to judge us, that we will not sustain.This time, we will not chance to sick minded who are just against the separation of South Sudan from North, why do they start judging us, without seeing what`s happening in South Sudan.do not judge a book from the cover, its earlier to judge.
    this because of the corruptions & insecurities in south, we will control borders and deal with sources of this insecurity.
    Long live South Sudan

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  • 29 July 2010 11:08, by stephen

    we are still in united sudan, but we gain nothing from that unity instead we loss our dear one and made as second class citizen in our own country, i think it is high time for us southerner to choose separation so that our dignity and culture is recognize all over the world and our identity be known as Africans not arabs, since we are African.
    Gaddafi i think enough is enough we don’t want to second class citizen again.
    Long live SPLM, long live south Sudan, no one will liberate us, but we have to liberate ourselves.
    separation is our first choice

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  • 29 July 2010 12:28, by yirolda

    Watch out Mr. Gadafi, we have been in Unity since Sudan gain her independence in 1956 up to date but nothing has been benefiting us the Southern Sudanese. so pliz i have nothing much to talk about but we preparing seperation from unity. you will still have much relationship with Bashir though South is independence

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    • 29 July 2010 17:08, by Kon Paul Awenchol

      DEAR GADAFFI.
      please stopped your falsification dream of convincing Southerners to remain united with the Northerners. please we have been with Northerners since independent of Sudan but nothing has went good between north and south, just only that, the army of Sudan has been killing their Citizen since 1956 as the war you know between South and North and people are still dying in Darfur.we don,t like that political insurance and political concubine of Islamic.

      Once again,"Referendum between South and North is not a two horse race but just belong and right to Southerners to determine their fate.it doesn’t concern who is Mammar Gadafi to sell his lies of Libya to the community of Sudan as well as community of Southern Sudan in particular.

      THE TRUE CITIZEN.

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  • 29 July 2010 13:42, by Haak

    @ Muammar Gaddaf are you upside down? or what is wrong with your medulla?
    ooh!! my God’s a political leader is necessarily an imposter since he believes in solving life’s problems without asking its question Politics @ Muamar have you ever asked what cause the 21 years of war?- I don’t know why, but they seem to have a tendency to separate us, to keep us from one another, while nature is always and ever making efforts to bring us together as southern Sudaneses. anyway let me not blame you since a politician should have three hats. One for throwing into the ring, one for talking through, and one for pulling rabbits out of if elected but for your information there is noway a black person can make a good Muslim the way you akwaardly think....... damn Gaddaf
    Haakamadolgy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • 29 July 2010 16:29, by Machingela gai

      There is nothing wrong with Gaddafi’s remark saying, "South Sudan should not depart from the north due to insecurity measures". Well, we are going to be a failed state in a failed continent with no one ahead. What is wrong with it when it is our turn to do so? You look around and see who is ahead better than the South. Your talk is just a prime time show in politics.

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  • 29 July 2010 18:45, by hard liner

    Dear readers and eligible south sudanese,
    its with concern to let you know that an arab is an arab no matter where he comes from, they are liers, cheaters and do not mean whatever they say, so gadafi is one who thought he will deceive the people of south sudan into united sudan which am assuring him that nothing of such will happen. if he can first say he support the independence of south sudan why should he change now? mr. dictator let me tell you south sudan has decided and we are going independent whether the arab world like it or not period. south sudan oyeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, junub sudan oyeeeeeeeeeeeee will be the slogan we shall shout soon.

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  • 29 July 2010 23:15, by Lual Peter Dau

    You people say any thing that is in your minds, but a decission is already made in the minds of civil population, that it is the separation and nothing else can be decorated at this juncture untill it will win our interest. Yes it will be a weak country and so what? were we even strong when we stayed together? God will help us in runing that new country so don,t worry.

    Let any one joke and rigge the results of the refrendum and we will not help rebelling against that. The best thing our friends should start considering is how we will live together as friendly countries.

    Thank you Gaddafi for concern and enjoy your monarchy.

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