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Dr. Lual Deng: The less publicized effective minister

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By Zechariah Manyok Biar

January 29, 2010 — In my section of Dinka, there is a belief that one should not be thanked openly if he or she is still alive. I do not buy this belief now. I now believe that it is important to thank people in the same way we criticize them when they are still alive so that they know what they are doing well and what they are not doing well. I think many people are inspired by good work of others. So we need to point out positive parts of people’s lives so that others can learn from them. This pointing out of positive parts of one’s life must be done with politicians, too.

The Government of National Unity (GoNU) and the Government of South Sudan (GoSS) are full of competent leaders, but we often do not know good leaders because we rarely hear about them since what makes news is bad news. The examples of effective leaders in South Sudan include the Minister of Internal Affairs Major General Gier Chuang Aluong and the Minister of Transport and Roads, Mr. Anthony Lino Makana. Gier and Anthony are drops in the ocean of effective leaders we have in South Sudan. I use them as examples because what they are doing is visible to everybody who is not “good-blind” in South Sudan.

The other leader who is very effective but less publicized is the Minister of State for Finance in the GoNU Dr. Lual Achuek Lual Deng. Dr. Deng is less publicized because he keeps low profile in everything he does. It is not only today that Dr. Deng has done extraordinary well for the people of South Sudan; he did a lot of good things during the North-South war. This article will show how effective Dr. Deng is.

Dr. Deng gave up his luxurious position in the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) in the 1990s and committed himself to serving the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) even when salaries were non-existence. Dr. Deng believed that there was a need for the building SPLM’s human resource to rule when the liberation became a reality.

In 1997, Dr. Deng came up with the idea of distant learning for SPLA commanders, whom he believed would become future government leaders in Sudan after the liberation war was over. Not only did Dr. Deng come up with the idea of distant learning, he made friendship with universities like the University of London in England, the Iowa State University in the United Sates, the University of Fort Hare in South Africa, among other universities around the world, to provide SPLA commanders with distant learning education.

When the then SPLM/A leader Dr. John Garang de Mabior, a Ph.D. holder from Iowa State University, approved Dr. Deng’s idea and selected SPLA commanders for distant learning, some commanders within the SPLA approached Dr. Garang and told him that Dr. Deng was trying to destroy SPLA by sending SPLA commanders to school. Both Dr. Garang and Dr. Deng ignored those concerns and pushed ahead with the building of human resource in SPLM/A because they knew it was a good thing to do.

Even though not every commander who was sent to school for distant learning could make it, given the educational gap they had gone through because of the war, few commanders who made it through their university education are now very effective leaders in Sudan and in South Sudan. The examples of these effective leaders who made it include Lt. General Majak Agoot Atem, now a Ph.D. holder and Deputy Director for National Security in the GoNU; Lt. General James Hoth Mai, a Master’s Degree holder and SPLA Chief of Staff; Lt. General Bior Ajang Duot, Under Secretary of GoSS’ Ministry of SPLA Affairs; Lt. General Pieng Deng Kuol, a Master’s Degree holder and SPLA administrator; Major General Gier Chuang Aluong, a Master’s Degree holder and the Minister of Internal Affairs in the GoSS; among other leaders.

Dr. Deng did not stop there. He thought that an institute of learning would speed up the goal of building human resource in South Sudan. So he established the Institute of Development, known as IDEAS, in 1999 in South Sudan. He also founded the Technical Committee of Intellectuals (TCI) to help in the process of every strategic planning that SPLM/A would make. Dr. Deng sponsored a number of boys and girls for university studies. Some of the people Dr. Deng sponsored are now working in different ministries in South Sudan.

Immediately after the signing of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA), Dr. Deng put Dr. Garang’s philosophy of taking towns to people into action by buying TV sets and distributing them to 12 centers in Greater Bor area to enlighten people in the rural areas about the modern world. Dr. Deng also took Telecom to Twic East County, helping old men and old women deep in the village buy phones and dial in their huts the numbers of their sons and daughters around the world instead of travelling to Uganda and Kenya to communicate with their children outside Sudan.

Dr. Deng then convinced himself that the only way to change people from the current way of living to a new way of living is to show them how better the new way of living is, compared to their current way of living. To achieve this goal, Dr. Deng bought some tractors and introduced agricultural activities in Twic East County. Communities in Twic East got involved in agriculture-for-market activities. Recently, some communities succeeded in their harvest, others are yet to succeed. But the success of few communities would be the motivation of those who have not succeeded. Now Duk County is gearing up to do what Twic East is doing. Agriculture will soon become a great investment in Greater Bor and beyond.

When the Second Vice President of GoNU Ali Osman Taha heard about the developmental activities that Dr. Deng was doing in Twic East County, he called him to his office and their discussions resulted in the funding of what is now known as Peace Village in the honor of South Sudanese influential leaders. The Peace Village would take town to people in the real sense of the word. As part of bringing town to people, Dr. Deng is building modern headquarters of Jonglei State Governor in Bor town.

During the tribal crisis that almost made Jonglei a failed state in 2009, Dr. Deng decided that it would be good if Gadiang was built into peace city to be second to Bor in Jonglei State, because Gadiang is in the center of Jonglei State. Dr. Deng got support from influential leaders in Jonglei State including Governor Kuol Manyang Juuk, Philip Thon Leek, Dr. Riek Gai Kok, Gen. Gier Chuang, Dr. Majak Agoot, to mention but a few. Now 200 soldiers are in Gadiang area and the construction of roads from different areas of Jonglei to Gadiang is underway. Seventy-seven tractors are on their way to Gadiang to speed up road and agricultural activities. Peace and reconciliation among different tribes in Jonglei State will be done in April this year, in which three hundred delegates will be accommodated in the buildings constructed in Gadiang.

To make the work easy in the area, Dr. Deng is building the Port of Dhiam Dhiam so that Jonglei State can receive its supplies by Nile River. To make communication easy, telephone towers will soon be put up in Gadiang. Water will also be available. Three hand-pumps are already functioning to provide clean water in the area.

About 50,000 acres of land are ready for those who would like to invest in agriculture in Gadiang.

As part of development in rural areas of Jonglei, Dr. Deng, who is a qualified Economist, is now establishing Jonglei Development Bank to provide loans for investment in Agriculture, Real Estate, and small businesses. He is also establishing Dr. Garang’s Memorial Think-tank to help the government of South Sudan make informed decisions.

I can go on and on about the achievements of Dr. Deng. The message I am trying to communicate to our leaders in both North and South Sudan here is that we the citizens of Sudan in general and South Sudan in particular would like our leaders to tell us what they will do when elected in the upcoming elections. We are not interested in your expertise in merely tearing of one another down; we are interested in how you plan to take town to people in your constituencies all over Sudan. Dr. Deng and other effective leaders in Sudan are good examples of what we want our leaders in every state to do. Mere words of how great one is no longer convince us because we have been hearing them since 1983. What convince us now are actions and clear plans for actions.

Zechariah Manyok Biar is a graduate student at Abilene Christian University, Texas, USA. He just graduated with a Master of Arts in Christian Ministry and he is still pursuing a Master of Science in Social Work, specializing in Administration and Planning. He can be contacted at manyok34@gmail.com



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  • 30 January 2010 07:52, by Gatwech

    Zechariah Manyok Biar,

    Meanwhile you have the right to appreciate the work done by your clanmate, Dr. Laul Deng, to the contrary, what I hear about the man is totally opposite. People talk of him as a first class tribalist and actually the implementer of late John Garang’s discriminatory policy when it came to the project you have talked about.

    Yes, he did that good job to sneak commanders out of their fields and put them in location where they would access distance education. That was a good project. But why did he have to educate mostly Bor army officers and very few from other Dinka clans, let alone other tribes among sixty tribes in South Sudan?

    Was the project of that movement (SPLM) meant only for Bor Dinka to benefit from? Was it a plan to relieve Bor Dinka commanders from war and prepare them to take over the army administration once war was over? This is the talk of many people of know Dr. Lual Deng very well.

    And here as I quote it from yourself directly, the below paragraph in your article has confirmed the talk of the people that the man, Dr. Lual Deng, is a tribalist and weak nationalistically and that is why he does nothing in his current position as the GONU’s state minister of Finance and National Economy.

    Look below as I quote from you, why would he divert such national programme to Greater Bor area and Twic East County in particular?

    "Immediately after the signing of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA), Dr. Deng put Dr. Garang’s philosophy of taking towns to people into action by buying TV sets and distributing them to 12 centers in Greater Bor area to enlighten people in the rural areas about the modern world. Dr. Deng also took Telecom to Twic East County, helping old men and old women deep in the village buy phones and dial in their huts the numbers of their sons and daughters around the world instead of travelling to Uganda and Kenya to communicate with their children outside Sudan."

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    • 30 January 2010 08:08, by Gatwech

      And advice to Manyok,

      Please I also advise you not to turn national programmes into individual efforts. The issue of such constructions in Jonglei state which is sponsored by Ali Osman Taha is a national programme under the "making unity attractive" project.

      Please I read about these project since last year on this same Sudantribune. It was a high level agreement between FVP Salva Kiir and Ali Osman to build such modern villages. Actually they are supposed to be three: one for Garang and other two for Kiir and Ali. It is not a work of Dr. Lual Deng as you want people to believe.

      Even the 77 tractors were brought by Dr. Riek Gai Kok during his recent visit to Jonglei state. Dr. Lual Deng knows nothing about them.

      So please, try to advertize your uncle honestly. Don’t snatch other people’s efforts. It is an insult to deny Salva Kiir’s effort as the representaive of the South and give it to Dr. Lual Deng.

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      • 30 January 2010 08:24, by Dinka Boy

        Hey Gatwech,

        It is irrelevant to blame Manyok Biar for nothing. He is approciating the work done by Dr Lual Achuek.

        It seems that you have no critical thinking at all because you really fail to understand the theme of the article.
        The author even tell right in front of your face that this particular Dr Lual Achuek is not awell known person for others,but in real sense, he did alot of works.

        I agree with Manyok Biar because DR Lual Achuek was acompetemt man interm of education. You can see the examples that Manyok gave you. There is no doubt that he did not do great let alone your tribal hatred. Complaining and failing to recogned someone,s effort widely come out in many people,s mind including you gatwech.
        Please leave the author alone and follow your own way of thinking because you are not helping anyone here.
        Thanks

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        • 30 January 2010 08:38, by thieleling

          Manyok Biar Will always be a hopeless tribalist no matter what he says or does!!
          Now, he is head-to-toe hell-bent to ass-kissing SPLM policy of personality politics. It is obvious he is looking for a job and wants his clan-man, Lual Achiek to help him. But every south sudanese already knows Zechariah Manyok Biar is one of the worst tribalist mouth piece of the so-called educated-Bor Dinka . Nothing new. Manyok, we will meet you here in south sudan. You are a marked tribalist. Keep tribalizing!!

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          • 30 January 2010 08:51, by Manyok

            Good to hear from you again, brother Thieleling. I hope the new year is good with you.

            When it comes to whether I am looking for a job, no problem with that. But if I cannot get a job with three degrees in different areas, plus the fact that I fought for the liberation war that you now enjoy the freedom of insulting me, then I do not think Dr. Laul could help me in any way.

            But I love to hear you insult me. I love that. That shows that some people are there to insult and others are there to analyze national issues. It is a matter of choice and I have chosen the opposite of you. What a great freedom!

            Have a good day, brother.

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            • 30 January 2010 15:54, by thieleling

              You are a great preacher of tribalism, Manyok Biar. If you were a tree, you would be a fig tree that Jesus cursed. There is nothing you give to south sudan, but tribalism in your writings. You always make hasty judgements based on your vested tribal interests. You praised Lual based on your tribal-clan relationship with him.

              You claimed a Master degree in christian ministry, yet you acted like a certified idiot in tribalism. Even Pilate knew it was out of envy that the chief priests handed Jesus over to him. Your envy toward non-Dinka leaders is pathetic. Why do you like to preach tribalism, instead of love?

              If you want to be taken seriously, act like someone who has a degree in Christian Ministry who knows one or two about brotherly love. Yes, before I forget, you are my brother in Christ. Do not spread hatred among the innocent south sudanese through your tribalistic writings. Jesus’ behavior differ from that of the chief priests who wanted him dead. He spreads love!!

              Yes, you are a certified tribal idiot(with a Ph.D. in tribalism) and would not have problem finding a job in the ministry of tribalism in south sudan like the rest of your uncles who made south sudan "a den of robbers". There are well educated south sudanese brothers & sisters who went to this world’s prestigious school(Harvard, Oxford...etc) who do not advertise their achievements like you everyday. Your boasting or proudness on the media is shameful and becomes so unbearable. Have some dignity and join those brothers who work quietly behind the scenes without advertising their education days & nights. Please you need to work on your moral principle and on changing your heart first before spewing anything about injustice, abuse, moral corruption or development in south sudan.

              Stop praising yourself!! It makes you come across so hopeless and desperate for people attention. And one more thing, you are a pussycat, pistol-packing mama in refugee camp. You NEVER were a liberator of anything, leave alone being a liberator in the SPLA.

              Are you lying to yourself or are you lying to your American friends trying to seem important for popularity and acceptance there? Quit hating others, you will then be accepted without lying to be a liberator. Are you talking about your freedom to lie? yes, you have a freedom to lie. You lie everyday on this media. Poor Manyok Biar!!

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              • 30 January 2010 17:37, by Manyok

                Brother Thieleling,

                Show me your innocence about tribalism and I will shut up. Read my reply to Dr. Okuk’s comment if you have not understood what message the article is communicating.

                I think Jesus condemned the tree for hypocrisy. What is your definition of hypocrisy? I am just curious.

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          • 30 January 2010 18:10, by Lual Peter Dau

            Thank Manyok Bair , we did not appreciate our people for what the have done , they will not know whom the are.
            Those hopless people who did not like the success of others are in every community.
            Remember, when SPLA/M where about to Capture Juba in 1990 infact SPLA/M face a lot of problem from his fellow brother who break away and weight war againist them.

            The same thing is now hapening in the Government of National unity. there are same Southernes who are against the successs of Government of Southern Sudan to became independent Governance. Therefore, when our failures brothers from the other state seeing same development in Jongulei the took it as a point of discusion, but it will not help them.

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    • 30 January 2010 08:30, by Lo-Tolok

      Dear Manyok,

      In your article you have Nakedly exposed the weakness of Your very Bor Dinka.If tribelism was upto that depth in the SPLM liberation struggle-What depth is it now.

      This selfish idology is what is making this country backward-I call for another secession come independance.Believe me Equatoria is gona be its own State-B’se we are tired of carrying your Sheit.

      Check it out.

      Lotolok.

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    • 30 January 2010 08:37, by Manyok

      Gatwech,

      I thought Gen. Majak Agoot and General Bior Ajang were the only ones from Bor in the above mentioned Generals and they are six. I have also mentioned that the above mentioned generals were not the only ones sent to school. Most of the people who were sent to school with them did not graduate.

      As to whether what I wrote is national or not national is a point of debate. I thought when you always wrote about Dr. Riek Machar as a person, you believed you were writing about national issue. Or maybe you are immune from writing about individual and I am not.

      I agree with you that Dr. Riek Gai is part of what Dr. Lual is now doing in Gadiang. I think I have mentioned Dr. Gai in the article with the rest of the leaders who are working in Gadiang project. But whether he is the one sending the 77 tractors or not is something that I will not debate with you because I know you always have your local news that do not hold water.

      I am also losing respect for your comments because I learn nothing from them. It is useless for one’s comments to always be predictable, unless you don’t mean to be taken seriously. I think you have a lot of time to waste. I encourage you to carry on with it, but do not expect me to take you seriously, unless you become objective.

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  • 30 January 2010 08:12, by kuminyandi

    How effective is distance learing? Is somebody who got his/her Bachelors, Masters, and PhD degrees through Distance Education can "really" be considered educated? Are those degrees really worthy the quality education they claimed? Generally speaking, Distance Education degrees are considered Mills degrees, meaning anybody can HAVE them regardless of effective academic background. In other words, I can obtain one for Marley "my dog". Can you imagine a dog with a PhD!

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  • 30 January 2010 12:12, by Time1

    Zechariah Manyok Biar

    This is an excellent and inspiring article about Dr Lual, lets hope his development campaign is widespread throught Jonglie and will help bring peace and development to the whole region.

    You are right about citizens knowing about the policies of those who want to be elected to represent them, leaders have to explain tot he citizens what their policies will be, what change they will bring to the life of the people, and how they will bring or achieve this policies. Only leaders who have a plan good to help bring peace and development should then be elected.

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  • 30 January 2010 14:01, by James Okuk Solomon

    It is very good to hear from brother Zechariah Manyok that Dr. Lual Deng has done extraordinary projects in the South for the benefit of a particular Bor section of Dinka in Jonglei state even to the extent of naming intellectuals of South Sudan "Dr. John Garang Think Tank" and naming a Bank, Bor Commercial Bank. Why Bor, Bor, Bor.............?

    However, as good news as what Dr. Lual Deng has done and is about to do, it is also bad news in a sense that brother Manyok has confirmed the real tribalism and even clanism many Southerners have been worriedly complaining about. Every project mentioned by brother Manyok was only about Jonglei, and not only about any community in Jonglei but acertain Dinka section even within the larger Bor Dinka Community itself. What a shame!!!!

    It is said if you don’t see yourself in a mirror then that mirror has no value of being a mirror reflecting your face, whether beautiful or ugly. What Dr. Lual Deng and other Bor gentlement mentioned by brother Manyok in his article have been doing and are planning to do selectively and tribalistically or rather clanistically in Jonglei or section of Jonglei state does not reflect nor recognize existence of others in the South. This marginalizing tendency could be a good cause for protest by Murle, Anuak and even the section of Dinak of Luaj, Thoy, Othol, etc. where Mr. Gier Chuang and George Athor hails from, leave alone other communities and tribes in the South who are being marginalized and denied peace dividends like the community of brother Manyok.

    Dear brother Manyok, if Dr. Lual Deng mirror you are selling on the net now is what you are happy to praise about South Sudan, then it is better for me to start agreeing with those sons of the Country like brother Gatwech, Thielieng, Kim Deng, etc, that you are good for nothing except triablism and particularly Bor-Dinka clanism. If I were you, I would have kept silent to sell such exclusive mirror of development in public that does not reflect the existence of others to benefits from peace dividends in the South. This is very sad!!!!!!!!

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    • 30 January 2010 17:27, by Manyok

      Dr. Okuk,

      I thought you would be among the people who get the theme of the article because it is clearly stated in the conclusion. The message I am trying to communicate to leaders in the upcoming elections is to tell us clearly how they would serve their constituencies. That is the reason why I spent a lot of time explaining what Dr. Lual has done for his constituency.

      To be honest with you, the achievements that I have mentioned about Dr. Lual are just fragments of what he has done and is still doing for Sudan and South Sudan. I just focused on Dr. Lual’s achievements for Twic East, his constituency, and Jonglei State where he belongs.

      If I had mentioned all of Dr. Lual’s achievements, those who hate other people’s achievements would have been rushed to hospital for heart attack.

      By the way, Gen. Oyai Deng Ajak was among the people who successfully completed their studies that Dr. Lual initiated for SPLA commanders. I guess you know where Gen. Oyai comes from.

      President Museveni once said that Africans are like grasshoppers. When grasshoppers fall into a hole, according to President Museveni, they stay there. If one of them tries to climb out, the rest jump on it and pull it down.

      The comments under this article confirm what Museveni said. We in Africa are always jealous about the success of one of our own and we try to pull him or her down and we cry that colonialism is still affecting us.

      I alluded to this in the above article when I said that we do not care about your expertise in merely tearing down of one another. What we are interested in are actions and clear plans for actions.

      So even Dr. Okuk cannot get the theme of the article. We are in trouble!

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      • 30 January 2010 21:31, by James Okuk Solomon

        Oppositely; if brother Manyok has mentioned what Dr. Lual Deng and other Bor gentlemen have done and are palnning to do for the South in other constituencies far away from Bor-Dinka section in addtion to what they have done in Twic Constituency of Jonglei state, many people would have been discharged urgently from the tribal Hospital beds of South Sudan. We would have been rejoicing collectively as one people of South Sudan, alas!!!

        The fact that brother Manyok forgot to mentioned Oyai Deng Ajak (who is even a brother-in-law of his Bor community) as one of the beneficiaries of the so-called Dr. Lual Deng’s good job, is a good clue of how Manyok mind is imprisoned in Bor tribalism and clanism.

        Please brother Manyok, next time try to look nationalistic if you want keen and critical intellectuals of South Sudan to take you seriously.

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        • 30 January 2010 21:47, by Manyok

          Dr. Okuk,

          If we are to brag about how we write, I would have more articles about national issues than you have. I will also have very few tribal articles, if articles like the one above could be called tribal articles, than you have.

          I hope you know what you mean when you call other people "tribalists." Now you want to deny Oyai Deng from being your Shilluk brother simply because he has married from Bor. Oyai became a leader in SPLA as Shilluk before he married in Bor. If we claim now that he belongs to us, as you would like us to believe, then will you not complain again?

          You are becoming expert in chasing people away if they do not agree with you and you call other people tribalists! You do this all the time with brothers and sisters from Abyei. You call them Northerners. Then on the other side, you call South Sudanese living in the USA as Americans. You have a Ph.D. in Philosophy, have you seen what is wrong with the situations I have shown in this comment? I don’t have to explain that to you.

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    • 30 January 2010 18:25, by mzalendo

      hey guys up there...

      if you guys have nothing to say, you better keep silent than to bring headache, to the innocent people who wants to hear good news about the development always.. am very glad to hear all those projects brought forward by Dr. Lual Deng. its very educative to the leaders of south sudan to at least contribute to the civilians like it was done by Doctor Lual Deng. south sudan need a leaders like him, i think if ten of south sudan leaders were capable like him, then our problem with development would have finished since the signature of CPA.

      How ever, some guys are not happy when they heard this news about the achievement of Dr. Lual. let me tell you something guys, dont ever be opposition to any article written on this website, it bring no sense at all. some confused guys like thieleliel and gatwitch will never be happy unless some thing good is said about their uncle Mr. X who contributed nothing to the entire communities of southern sudan.

      thieleliel may think that his uncle can be praise while he did nothing, waw shame on you mr. big fool for your contradictions always on this web’s news.
      some guys are saying that Dr.Lual only took Bor commanders to further their studies, but when i saw there names of those commanders, they include James Hoth Mai, who is not even from Dinka leave alone being Bor. its an example which i thought can make it easy for fools like gatwich and thileliel to know that this man call Dr. Lual is the man of development regardless of tribes.

      on the other hand, to tell mr.gatwitch the full message about the above mention commanders, why it was only James Hoth Mai from your community, that was because all of your people went to support jallaba last time, when those commanders were taken for distant learning, or do you think that those of Matip were to be brought from their militias to attend the education? i hope you will learn how to think wisely before blaming others.

      other wise, thank Mr. Manyok Biar for writing this article, i hope God will bless this man(Dr. Lual) and give him a wisedom to play his role for the betterment of south sudan.

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  • 30 January 2010 20:42, by Gatwech

    Manyok,

    Your argument about Dr. Lual Deng sounds like a desperate but confused defense! Are you advertizing him as a local leader (achiever) for Twic East or Greater Bor constituency or as a national leader working for the greater South?

    Now Dr. Lual Deng is a state minister in GONU, does he represent his Bor constituency or does he represent the whole South considering the position he holds now in Khartoum? Would a true nationalist be proud about an individual leader who decided to loot what belongs to the whole South and takes it to his own home village? What if the minister for roads constructs roads only in his home area? Would you be proud about his work?

    Manyok, do you really understand well the difference between representative of a particular constituency among hundreds of constituencies (South) and some body holding a national position, taking the whole South as a greater constituency?

    To me, Dr. Lual Deng’s position whether as chief of that distance education in the bush era and being minister in GONU are all national responsibilities. They are not for Bor only. And so for him to divert such national resources for the benefit of his clan, Bor-Dinka, is unnationalistic and should be condemned instead of praised!

    And you, Mr. Zechariah Manyok Biar, don’t know well what you are arguing about Dr. Lual Deng. Dr. James Okuk and another brilliant guy Thieleling have nipped you in the bud! You are a lost tribalist trying to localize what should have been national projects. They are actually stolen projects and Dr. Lual Deng should have been charged of corruption.

    As for your cheap desperacy to prove that he took many officers for distance education among many tribes, that is a lie too. The six people are just examples and not the whole list of officers. It is like showing as examples all the existing three green colors together with three red colors among some other 50 red colors. The other remaining 47 red colors are Bor-Dinka. So don’t deceive us with those few individuals examples from other tribes who participated in the distance learning project.

    And stop writing irrelevant articles. I have been advising you about this over and over again. If you had wanted to write about your local politicians in Twic East, you would have stuck to that and treat the matter as local. But is Dr. Lual Deng a local leader or a national leader representing the world South at the national level?

    Gosh, that Christian University must have gone through hell trying to tame Manyok. There is a saying that you cannot teach an old dog new tricks...

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    • 30 January 2010 21:12, by Manyok

      Brother Gatwech,

      You are right. Dr. Lual is a national leader. But he has to be a Member of Parliament first before he becomes a Minister. Even if I am not talking about Dr. Lual, I may be communicating my message to other MPS. Not every MP is going to be a Minister and works for the nation. They must work for their constituencies in most cases. That is why they should learn from what Dr. Lual is doing for his constituency on top of what he is doing for the nation.

      Dr. Lual, by the way, writes his plans very clearly and show them to donors to fund his projects. That was how he could get money for his programs even during the war. So leaders like him in Sudan must think about the same thing if we are to develop our nation. They must first know what their people want before they think about money. If you do not like to push your MPs that way, then do not disturb us here.

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      • 31 January 2010 11:18, by Gatwech

        Brother Manyok,

        You are just confirming the dilemma of your confused argument.

        If you wrote about Dr. Lual Deng as a local Twic East representative, then your writing or praise doesn’t contain any exra measurement of Lual’s success because other constituencies representatives have done good and some even more than what Dr. Lual did to Twic East. You didn’t need to make noise about it as if Twic East is the only success story among the 79 other South Sudan counties.

        And if you wrote about him as a national leader, well that would have made sense, but ONLY to some extent because there are other national leaders in South Sudan who have done well more than whatever Dr. Lual has contributed for the last five years.

        But why would he (Dr. Lual) divert national resources (making unity attractive fund) to his home village and call him a success? Is Sudan unity to be made attractive only in Twic East? Dr. Lual has exercised a corrupt practice by favoring his clan’s area and should be charged of corruption?

        Please you don’t make sense!!

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    • 30 January 2010 21:27, by Manyok

      Gatwech,

      One more thing. What part of budget does Dr. Lual take your money from? We have budget for Northern Sudan and the Budget for Southern Sudan. Who is complaining in these sides if Dr. Lual has looted their "national money?" You see the reason why I say that I no longer respect your views. You are driven by impulse than reasoning.

      Do not waste your time to tell me that I should stop writing. Your advice does not work with me because I do not respect your views. Maybe you need to influence a different person to tell me in a logical way why I should stop writing.

      You always accuse me of tribalism, let me repeat the question I asked Thieleling, Show me, with clear evidences, your innocence in tribalism and I will shut up.

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    • 31 January 2010 00:10, by SPLA

      Gatwech and James,

      What is wrong if Dr. Lual Deng is doing something good for Twic East? Don’t you guys know that charity begins at home? Developing Twic East is also a part of development in South Sudan. We should not be discouraging those who are doing something good for their communities.

      Yes Dr. Deng is a state ministry in GONU but does not prevent him from empowering his local people from Twic East through all the good things he is doing. Even in the United States, congressmen and senators do lobby the federal govenment to give more money or contracts to their districts in their respective states.

      SPLA

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  • 30 January 2010 21:50, by James Okuk Solomon

    Oppositely; if brother Manyok has mentioned what Dr. Lual Deng and other Bor gentlemen have done and are palnning to do for the South in other constituencies far away from Bor-Dinka section in addition to what they have done in Twic east Constituency of Jonglei state, many people would have been discharged urgently from the tribal Hospital beds of South Sudan. We would have been rejoicing collectively as one people of South Sudan, alas!!!

    The fact that brother Manyok forgot to mentioned Oyai Deng Ajak (who is even a brother-in-law of his Bor community) as one of the beneficiaries of the so-called Dr. Lual Deng’s good and examplary job, is a good clue of how Manyok mind is imprisoned in Bor tribalism and clanism.

    Look at how brother Manyok tried to portray other SPLA officers who are not from Bor as failures and Bor ones as the only successful in the so-called Dr. Lual’s best project of distance learning.

    Can Manyok tell us how many (stupid as he tries to justify Bor gentlemen dominance) Non-Bor SPLA officers failed to succeed in the distance learning so as to believe his allelluia songs for Dr. Lual Deng and Majak Agoot!!! Just I am curious to know how many Non-Bor out of Bor SPLA distance learners so that manyok allegation could be justifified.

    Please brother Manyok, next time try to look nationalistic if you want keen and critical intellectuals of South Sudan to take you seriously. This is just a brotherly advice for you to freely take it or rejects it.

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    • 30 January 2010 22:14, by Manyok

      Brother Dr. Okuk,

      If we are to brag about how we write, I would have more articles about national issues than you have. I will also have very few tribal articles, if articles like the one above could be called tribal articles, than you have.

      I hope you know what you mean when you call other people "tribalists." Now you want to deny Oyai Deng from being your Shilluk brother simply because he has married from Bor. Oyai became a leader in SPLA as Shilluk before he married in Bor. If we claim now that he belongs to us, as you would like us to believe, then will you not complain again?

      You are becoming expert in chasing people away if they do not agree with you and you call other people tribalists! You do this all the time with brothers and sisters from Abyei. You call them Northerners. Then on the other side, you call South Sudanese living in the USA as Americans. You have a Ph.D. in Philosophy, have you seen what is wrong with the situations I have shown in this comment? I don’t have to explain that to you.

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      • 31 January 2010 01:05, by mzalendo

        to Manyok,

        why do you waste your time replying to the comments of those of gatwitch and okuk? don’t you know that gatwich can not have any good analysis on the subject as he is suffering the big wound on his forehead caused during his so called initiation, where they put big six marks on his head, which i think have cut the most sensitive nerves in which human being can be sensitive to think and differentiate between good and bad things. therefore, gatwich has just remained like an open tomb because his nerves were cut off, which will lead soon to the shortage of his sight.

        however, some body like okuk was incited by his big fool uncle, mr. traitor who i will not mention his name, you will know him automatically. he is always running opposite directions as his uncle is doing, supporting jallaba day and night.

        so my advice goes to you mr. Manyok, that dont waste your good time to reply their comments, they are reversing you, instead to drive forward.
        there is no way they will over come good leaders of southern sudan who are fully committed to bring town to people instead of people to go to town.
        am tired of those gentle men, they are always feeling unhappy when they hear good thing being done to southerners by those who have vision and love to their people of southern sudan, unlike those who claims themselves to be call doctors while they are contributing nothing to people of south sudan.

        thanks be blessed.

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        • 31 January 2010 01:36, by James Okuk Solomon

          Hello Mzalendo,

          How on earth in Southern Sudan can towns be taken to Twic East County alone in Jonglei state without considering other counties elsewhere in the South? Are the Bor-Dinka section who live in that part of the Southerners’ world the only cashcows who should benefit from Dr. Garang’s theory of taking towns to villages instead of bringing villagers to the towns.

          come on brother, I don’t think you know Gatwech, son of the country born in 1980. He has no marks on his forehead; unless you mean to insult Nuers as a whole. Also I see some Dinkas with marks on their heads ( some known as 777 in Arabic Numbers) and I doubt whether the Nuers use differernt initiation knives or spears differernt from the Dinkas one. If that initiation knives use by Nuers can cut their brain nerves what can justify that the same knives do not cut Dinkas brain nerves too? I think your myth is just nonesense, and if it is not, it should apply to every tribe that have a cut in forhead whether in parallels or triangles.

          So shut up your mouth and blame brother Manyok for coming public with such a shameful article full of Bor’s triabal substance.

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          • 31 January 2010 02:19, by SPLA

            James Okuk Solomon,

            If it is not Twic East, where would you like the towns be taken? Do you want Dr. Lual Deng to take towns to your villiage? You have all the qualifications to do the same thing Dr. Lual is doing now in Twic East. Instead of criticizing the good work of Dr. Laul Deng, why don’t find a job and take towns where you think the best fit?

            You want to belittle the achievements of Dr. Lual Deng because you and your uncle Lam failed to do anything good for South Sudan. Despite your education, you will just end up a failure just like Dr. Lam Akol. You are exactly following his footsteps because you are always against anything good that is being done to South Sudan by SPLM officials. Go and join him in Khartoum and bring towns where ever you want.

            SPLA

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          • 31 January 2010 02:42, by mzalendo

            Okuk

            any way let me call it a wastage of my good time i supposed to do some thing else than to reply your comments, you talk of gatwitch born in 1980, thinking that their community left that practices of putting ugly marks on their face? let me tell you this, upto now as am writing to you, go to their villages you will get little boys being marked. so there is no reason to defend gatwich that he was not marked with this ugly marks.

            ok to come to the point, it was my perception to said so, because when i think twice and put this gatwich into comparison with different people, i only can say that maybe, its because of his marks on his forehead that made him to be opposition always. otherwise there is no reason behind. for me, i can not generalist the whole community because of one person, anyway. to tell you this, may be the marks differ from one person to other when i saw those people who were marked with these big six cut across their face, some have light while some have this thick ugliest mark which can reach to the skull, in which i think gatwich is among them, the man is totally retarded by those marks, so if you are there to reply on his behave, then you better let him seek medical help before his sight cut short.

            on top of that, don’t say that am insulting Nuers, i don’t have any problem with nuers, nuers are gud people, but what let me talked of their marks was because of thieleliel and gatwitch who became headache to southerners. also yourself is a headache too because you are incited by your hopeless uncle.

            in conclusion, the development or taking town to people as Dr. John Garang said it was not actually meant to Bor people, but to southern sudanese people. however, the only problem is that, we don’t have capable leaders in south sudan who love to serve people with their full commitment like what Dr. Lual did.

            so my friend tell me exactly, where do you think Dr.Lual could start to fulfill the vision of late Garang? i think you will say pity when it would have started in your village, but wait a little bit there is still time to reach you over there. why don’t you take example from the three villages that are in process to be build in southern sudan, these villages will not all be build in Bor, as i read it, and it is also the part of Dr.Lual’s work. so mr. okuk, leave all the hatred behind and let us focus forward to bring development to our people.

            also i would like you to tell your uncle who is the servant of Beshir in Khartoum, to come to south sudan to start building some places in your village. you know what? one hand does not clap itself!!!!! so do the development too. it will not be speedy when it is done by few people, we like all southerners to participate in it, then it will be easy to come forward.

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  • 31 January 2010 05:24, by Aturjok

    Although I am not from Dinka Bor, I do not see anything wrong with Manyok’s article on Dr. Lual. May be if others ministers from every corner of South Sudan do the same thing for their constituencies the development in the South Sudan can advance in faster. Rather, they chose to enrich themselves and their families. Dr. Lual recognized resources available to him and he chose to direct them to his home village. What is wrong with that?

    Manyok,

    Thank you for writing this article. May be this can be an inspiration to others in both GOSS and GONU.

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  • 31 January 2010 11:21, by Gatwech

    Brother Manyok,

    You are just confirming the dilemma of your confused argument.

    If you wrote about Dr. Lual Deng as a local Twic East representative, then your writing or praise doesn’t contain any exra measurement of Lual’s success because other constituencies representatives have done good and some even more than what Dr. Lual did to Twic East. You didn’t need to make noise about it as if Twic East is the only success story among the 79 other South Sudan counties.

    And if you wrote about him as a national leader, well that would have made sense, but ONLY to some extent because there are other national leaders in South Sudan who have done well more than whatever Dr. Lual has contributed for the last five years.

    But why would he (Dr. Lual) divert national resources (making unity attractive fund) to his home village and call him a success? Is Sudan unity to be made attractive only in Twic East? Dr. Lual has exercised a corrupt practice by favoring his clan’s area and should be charged of corruption?

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