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Gen. Salva Kiir should relinquish his military position - SPLM’s Amum

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January 20, 2010 (JUBA) – A senior official of the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) has said that the incumbent president of southern Sudan and the party’s candidate for presidency in the South, Gen. Salva Kiir Mayardit, will have to relinquish his military position in order to run for the elections.

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Gen. Salva Kiir Mayadrit, Sudan’s FVP and President of S. Sudan government

The SPLM Secretary General Pagan Amum was quoted by a local newspaper, The Juba Post, as saying that his party’s chairman will step down from being the army chief as the law requires.

Amum also added that the party’s candidate for the position of the President at the national level, Yasir Saeed Arman, will also resign from his current position as party’s Deputy Secretary General for Northern Sector and focus on the presidential campaigns.

This statement by the party’s Secretary General on Kiir’s military status came after two contradicting statements issued by the minister for presidential affairs, Luka Biong Deng.

Biong in his initial reaction to law requirement defended his boss’ position by saying Kiir would not relinquish his army position because the constitution allowed him to maintain it, but later on said that Kiir had already retired from the army since 2005.

He did not however explain the reason why Kiir continued to publicly appear in military uniform and use military title even up to 2010.

However, a military source revealed that Kiir, who was actually retired by late Dr. John Garang in 2005 at the rank of Lt. General, silently reinstated himself in the military in 2007 and promoted himself to the rank of 1st Lt. General.

He currently heads the recently formed SPLA Command Council and he is also the Commander-in-Chief of the army by the virtue of being the President of the semi-autonomous Southern Sudan.

Biong earlier criticized a letter sent to Salva Kiir from the National Elections Commission (NEC), warning that they would not accept his candidature unless he resigns from military positions.

He described the letter as “premature” because the SPLM had not yet presented Kiir’s nomination and supporting documents to the NEC.

NEC has set January 22 as the deadline to receive the nomination by Friday this week.

Anonymous voices among the government officials defend the law saying Kiir should completely retire from the army and step down from heading the military Command Council.

Officials however have conflicting views and interpretation of the Southern Sudan Interim Constitution, 2005, over whether Kiir should also relinquish his other position as the SPLA Commander-in-Chief by the virtue of being the President of Southern Sudan at least after his immediate nomination to run as presidential candidate and during the elections campaigns.

Article 111(1) of the Interim Constitution of Southern Sudan, 2005, states that the President of the Government of Southern Sudan shall be the Commander-in-Chief of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army "prior to the elections that shall be held during the interim period."

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  • 20 January 2010 05:48, by Kim Deng

    Coward/cowboy Kiir,

    You believe that you’re above the law, but you’r wrong.

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    • 20 January 2010 05:57, by Nuer and Equatoria Dominated SAF & Malitias

      KIm Deng

      You are right bro. Let’s support our heros such as Lam, Riek, Matip Nhial and other reliable people such as Riek Gai.

      I support unity of Sudan.

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      • 20 January 2010 06:05, by BUSTA 2

        The cowboy must step down!!

        He either step down or he doesn’t stand for the President of South Sudan as simply as that.

        Why is he fearing to surrender that position to acapable person? Is he fearing Coup or what?

        Brother in Christ,

        Busta 2

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      • 20 January 2010 06:07, by jack chuol

        Dude,the way you name yourself know nothing at all.Just mind your business little boy

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        • 20 January 2010 06:34, by Gatwech

          Wow!

          Amum has spoken at last. Well, Salvatore Kiir Miyerdit has to make a choice before the deadline in two days time, otherwise, he will be barred from constesting and the only presidential candidate to be declared by NEC will be Dr. Lam Akol in the South.

          Now even Salvatore Kiir’s picture in this article in military uniform confirms that he is active in the military. The rank on his shoulder (eagle with two stars in the middle and scissor at the bottom) is the rank of 1st Lt. General. If he was retired in 2005 at the rank of Lt. General then how did he get one more star and why still in military?

          Salvatore has to hand over the chairmanship of the SPLA Command Council to his next officer in the chain of command, General Paulino Matip. Kiir should differentiate between the Military Command Council and the GOSS Council of Ministers which he chairs.

          Salvatore should also hand over the position of Commander-in-Chief to his Vice President, Dr. Riek Machar, who will act on his behalf until he is re-elected in April and assumed being the Commander-in-Chief again. He should not continue commanding the forces during his election campaigns because he can use them to bully or intimidate other competing candidates.

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          • 20 January 2010 16:56, by anti-nyagat

            Gatwich all your nonesense dream will never become come true.mind you military post is for president he can make his son ,his ,brother etc to be army general.your wishes of rake machar,paulino matip will never work.no day our army will be control by nyagateen.we trust equatorian more than you guys.you may take our artilaries to arabs like what you did,the artilaries you took last time did not comeback with you.

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          • 21 January 2010 05:17, by samuel_kur@yahoo.ca

            Gartwech

            I think you are dreaming this time, Paulino Nyial could not be a south military chairman believe me or not because he is a cattle’s thief.
            Do you think he would be genuine after he collected cows from southern’s citizens during the war, even now he is still have those cows at his home, or he would return them back to their people then he would be in charge of south military.

            We are not kidding man as you now his militia is still active in south now, they stole 5000 recently plus 500 cows last year, i think you don’t read the news of Matip activities. If you want it for your self is okay due you don’t have any bad history.
            How can a man who killed his chief be an example for thousands of military, I think they will learn also from their boss to be a betrayers.

            I could not agree with Matip to be a head of our forces at all.

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          • 22 January 2010 10:00, by Mathiang Beny Til

            Dear gatwech or whatever you call yourself, Kiir is a freedom fighter, he is not like your NCP newly born child coming to destory South Sudan. Kiir is going to be your President out of your will but the will of Southerners.
            YOUR UNCLE LAM or your step father is a betrayal, bustard, coward and unstable politician who runs from party to party looking for money. SPLMDC is a part of NCP and his days are numbered in a democratic process.
            South Sudan is not for sell.

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      • 20 January 2010 06:15, by johnmaker

        Mr.Kim Deng,

        When talk about the word hero,you need to define it properly.What do you mean by; let support our heroes,Lam,Riek and Matip?Are you drunk or you are out of your mind.The above traitors you mentioned are the most evil men in the south sudan who stabed south sudan in the back.If I would ask you a question,what have those three men to south sudan rather than destroying it.

        For your information neither of them would not sit on south sudan presidential seat prove me wrong,but the future will tell.Matip too will never be apointed as a commander in chief.Let wait and see.Just keep barking until your jaw will get tied.

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      • 20 January 2010 06:16, by SPLA

        KIm Deng,

        You are totally a liar, if you call Lam, Riek Matip and Gai Gai heroes then you do not Know the meaning of hero. Let me tell you the meaning of hero. Hero is somebody who is admired for outstanding qualities or achievements. None of the aforemetioned names fit that definition but they fit the definition of a traitor which is a somebody who is disloyal or treacherous. Riek Machar, Lam Ako, Paulino Matips and Riek Gai are betrayers. They conspired against the people’s movement but they failed miserable.

        SPLA

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        • 20 January 2010 06:49, by Gatmi raan

          SPLA

          there are many qualities of being a hero. the word " courage and self sacrifice for some greater good. and hero " is some one who puts himself in danger to saved others.. (e.g.. in time of war or combat or others stressed situations. it eye in the of beholder, any one can pick who anyone from anywhere and find them a hero. but Genuine heroes (i.e in time of war) are unique. for example, genuine heroes to me of this land called south sudan are numerous countless ordinary people of South sudan whom many of them will never know their names or faces, but are the vital party of what we have achieved starting in the eighteenth centuries to resist the turks, anglo-egyptian rule and finally lauched the war of independence at the dawn of Sudan independence in 1955 up to the present day. many of them foughrt and died on the battle fields. are the heroes of the South Sudan.

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          • 20 January 2010 07:03, by SPLA

            Gatmi raan,

            What ever the meaning of the word hero is, it does not applies to Paulino Matip, Riek Machar, Lam Akol and Riek Gai. These people are not heroes but traitors and betrayers. They are the cause of suffering of our Southerners. With their low brains, they delayed our victory over Khartoum by turning their barrels against SPLA. They might be heroes to Bashir and Khartoum government but certainly not to Southerners. Matip and Riek Machar plus Lam Akol know how to fight only when they are fighting southerners but their gun barrels do not know how to fight Arab. Now call them heroes!

            SPLA

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      • 20 January 2010 06:16, by Nyiker

        This man called Dr. Luka Biong dosnt know the law and constitution of Sudan and Southern Sudan and the constitution of Nation Commission Election, please read them before any step to Media or Radio.

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        • 20 January 2010 06:34, by Free Zone

          Mr. Nyiker,

          Shame on you for the word. u just said to Dr. Luka
          Biong. You don’t more than him.

          Thank You.

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          • 20 January 2010 11:22, by Wed Deng

            On my own opinion, Kiir Must not step down from current position which he had as commander in-chief of SPLA.The constitution in southern Sudan stated that president of southern Sudan is also the commander in-chief of SPLA.

            So for those who wanted him to relinquish from this position, try elsewhere.

            WRITER IS NGOR DENG

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            • 20 January 2010 18:01, by MJriaksdca

              MR. NGOR DENG,

              If you regard yourself as an educated, revise what you said above. What do you mean when you say "On my opinion, Kiir Must not step down from current position which he had as commander-in-chief of SPLA?" What logical sense does it make to run for a position that you do not want to relinguish? Do you want to say that by mean of dictatorship Kiir must not run but keep his current presidential post? Kiir has already declared that he is running for the same position he is holding as president. What that mean is that until he wins this upcoming election he must resign and if he resign the post must not be left vacant. Someone else like your mother from cattle camp should come and await the position for Kiir. Do you think your mother or even my uneducated mother can hold the positon of Kiir till he resumes it by winning the election? Given your current thinking you would say yes to this question.

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              • 20 January 2010 20:05, by Wed Deng

                Mr.Mjriaksdca.

                am so astonish to hear you saying that am pride.
                actually being educated is also another sense,I didn’t know that you can misquoted me in wrong way.relinquishing of Kiir from his current position can affect every live human being on this world.

                still-more am here to tell you that,if there is language barrier to you, please you can better stay and wait to see those who have vanished so far with education. I had nothing to you but the really normal human being can reason what mistily politicians are saying.

                My promise to you is that, go to school and study so you will be the same with other people.

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                • 21 January 2010 00:48, by MJriaksdca

                  MR. WED DENG

                  "AM SO ASTONISH TO HEAR YOU SAYING THAT AM PRIDE."

                  What do you mean by that!!! I get the dim meaning of your exclamation, but it is not what I said about you. I didn’t say you are a proud man, but that by Kiir not stepping down and his running for the same position do not make sense. It is like when you are asked what is Dinka and as an answer you say Dinka is Dinka. You don’t define a word by using the same word.

                  Kiir is defining the same word by the same word when he runs but doesn’t step down. The impression educated people get with that is a dictatorial sense of clinging to power.

                  coming to being educated is an idea subject to misinterpretation. Some can claim they are educated by having been physically in school without proper understanding of what they learned, and that denotes itself in illogical assertions such people make.
                  Being educated in real sense means having vast knowledge in many things plus having a critical mind which lean toward accurate interpertation of ideas. It means writing logically. YOU GET THAT?

                  Finally I don’t have anything agaisnt you as a person. I am just concerned with the nonsense that you people put on the internet. You guys are so taken by tribes that one forget the overall good of southern Sudanese who have suffered for so long. Your clinging to primitivity will do nothing to S. Sudanese but only longate their suffering.

                  Mr. Deng. declare yourself a nontribalist and please next time you write try to make sense.

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        • 20 January 2010 11:33, by Wed Deng

          Hi Mr/Mrs.Nyiker!

          you are absolutely wrong in your statement.
          Dr.Luka Biong is the first person who had known the Sudan’s constitution than your father but not you who have just comes out from your mother’s womb.

          Shame on you,and I wish such people like are not be related to me or to be my neighbors as you are.

          WRITER IS NGOR DENG

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      • 20 January 2010 06:38, by Mr. Awan Awan

        To. Sudan tribune’s moderator

        I almost lost interest to participate on this website and probably most people will loose their interest too. I personally don’t like the way you redesign it. So, I suggest you put it in different way or just put it back as it was before. Thanks

        Awan Awan

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        • 20 January 2010 08:35, by Major Deng

          Awan Awan,

          You are right brother. Many participants on Sudantribune have been discourage about the new design of this website. It will be better for moderator to do something about it

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      • 20 January 2010 06:53, by biarawieu

        Kiir’s resignation from millitary position will not prevent him from taking gun any time and deals with those traitors, Nyangat, money lovers, and so many militias. nothing good for you traitors that can let you feel smilling and laughing about dropping millitary uniform, south sudan has been liberated without those criminal guys, example Lam, Riek, Matip, so many others.

        SPLM/A has been fought for 22 yrs with so many enemies, Ncp and traitors, militias, and was existed until everyone is enjoying peace now without fear and death.

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        • 20 January 2010 18:35, by MJriaksdca

          Mr. Biar

          Even Garang himself died while sad in his heart that he had not brought freedom or peace in Sudan through the barrel of a gun. I am for sure a great witness to the strugle of our brothers who died and were followed to their graves by his excellency Dr. John Garang. However, the truth remains that CPA was achieved through compromises from both sides. Splm could have refused and so could NCP to lay down arms and sign peace but fight on till the real man on the land is seen.

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      • 20 January 2010 10:15, by Samuel-abujohn

        Dear kim Deng

        you coward and food-lover i can’t belaimed you but your parent who brought you on to this universt, its wrong planet for you bro, i bet, look i wringle that there is a good place for the opposite, food-lover and negative optic creature like you, you gonna be damned if they found you.

        son of bitch............

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      • 20 January 2010 19:17, by Pete

        My note book!

        The question here is “Why it is very complicated for President Kiir to relinquish his military position?

        Well, the answer is very simple and most of the Nuers know why it is very complicated. Without power angry from Nuers that are next on the raw there would have been no this hustling over Kiir’s military resignation.

        You guys are well known for backlash the South for a longtime. The next two Nuers on the raw are well known for being traitors and no one knows when they will have short memory thinking. If it wasn’t them, this military resignation shouldn’t have been an issue here okay.

        Nobody ever in the South will ever trust these guys at least you must be Nuer or the same alike gang and most of the Nuer in this web prove my point here. For example Gatwech, Kim, Rambang, and Hilary B.M.L, M, all of these puppets comments always have something to do with Nuer superiority, Kiir incompetence, I’m not even mentioning the life threaten they have been singing, invasion of the other community, and list goes on.

        Let me make myself clear, I don’t have prejudice against any Nuer here; there are thousandth of Nuers out there that very caring with a leadership skill and patriotism of South Sudan. And if they are given the position which some of Nuer are in right now we will be well better off. But the few mentioned above and all there alike leaders are spoiling the Nuer name and South as a whole nation.

        If you guys were/really superior why didn’t you guys liberate the South from North? The last time check your background about your superiority, I find you guys were in Khartoum fighting your fellows Southerners. What superior?

        Please lets learn to live in spirit of brotherhood and Let bygone be bygone.

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        • 21 January 2010 01:13, by MJriaksdca

          MR. PETE

          If Nuer want to do anything they can do it now not after Kiir relinguish his power to Nuer. Mr. Pete I hope you are not a tribalist, but if you are, then you are in my lists of the worst southerners who are for the suffering of southerners.

          Can we stop tribalism cold turkey?

          If you want to make comment let them be free from tribalism, but be constructive and educate others including Nuer by condoning their strengths too not always their failures.

          YOU GET THAT?

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      • 22 January 2010 07:33, by mathet Lual

        Dear Kim

        I am so sorry for your heros, they have to decide from now where they are going to be, but for you guys it seem to me that both of you want to be under the northeners and work for them like slaves. You better take a quick action before you fine yourselfe in the deep hell with your heros.

        Mathet Lual

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    • 20 January 2010 06:03, by Time1

      Even if Salva Kirr quite the army, he will be reinstated as commander in chief of the army when he wins the elections, the constitution of south sudan says only the president can hold the post of commander in chief, it is the same in other countries, the president is usually the commander in chief of the army, when the president is absent then the vice president becomes the commander in chief. Alot of people are confused bet ween commmande rin chief and Army commander or army officer, Commander in chief can be a civilian, if the president is civilian he is the commander in chief of the army, ike president Obama now he is a civilian but he is the commander in chief of US army, for Kirr right now he is the commander in chief of the army as a president not as an army man, also when he wins the election he will take back his job as commander in chief, however the current dispute is over Kirr’s military rank in the SPLA, he is a senior commander in the SPLA, so he will resume his post as commander when he wins the elections, that should not be a problem if nessecary.

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      • 20 January 2010 06:19, by Gatmi raan

        Time 1

        Agreed with 100% the president should be Commander-in-chief of armed forces. but the question why has he continued to wear military uniform if he had already retired from the army back in 2005. and if he has been an active top officer in the army, while president at the same time. then, i one could concluded with out any doubt that he had violated his oath office, since he is serving on active list in the army. and commander-in-chief of the army is only reserved for person to give orders in consultation of the legislature.

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        • 20 January 2010 06:23, by Dinka Boy

          Gatmiran,
          Are you faraway from War?
          Please wearing uniform is not anorm. Salva Kiir can wear it anytime and can command anytime.

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          • 20 January 2010 07:16, by Gatmi raan

            Dinka Boy

            Let me tell you this, even Dwight D. Eisenhower, the 34th president of the United states Former Supreme allied commander of allied forces during D-Day invasion world war II and one of only last five General to attained the rank of General of the army (Five stars insignia )... but, four stars are current insignia ranks of General in the United states. and he had to retired well before running for president. never worn his uniform again even when there possibility of nuclear war with the Soviet Union. Even having served in uniform attaining the highest rank possible he(president Eisenhower) took the advises regarding military matters from top active military officers at the time.

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            • 20 January 2010 07:52, by Dinka Boy

              Mr Gatmiran,
              What is your point of arguments. When you talk about the 34th president of United State in your arguments. it cocluded that you don,t know what you are talking about. Please don,t insert fact without justification and that can make it irrelevent and less measurable to be reliable.

              In fact, Dwight D. Eisenhower is the 34th president at the time of World war2 and he was the commanding general during the time of war, and still the commder in chief. My friend, Bias and providing unfiltered data without justifications make your arguments less important and raw.
              See if we come to the point that you attempt to. Salva Kiir Mayardit is the president of South Sudan, still he can be the commanding generals,and comander in chief in the South likewise the Dwight D- the 34th president of USA by then.

              Hahhaha, then why are you crying like this while have no critical thinking about world history. Now what is the difference between Salva and Dwight if you are agennuine man . See thinks are differenece in our case South Sudan, this CPA or our problem with Arab is serious and it involve alot of trick that ablind person especially in thinking and tribal motivation can not see.
              Caution!

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              • 20 January 2010 08:44, by Gatmi raan

                Dinka Boy

                Read it, because i dn’t think you’d undertood my point. unless you are immersed yourself with world history or Military related issues.

                Any way! Dwight D. Eisonhower, was not president during world war II. he was a active uniform army General.(please don’t misinterperted my word when i said commanding General during world war II, doesn’t mean he was commander-in-chief of the armed forces. it meant that he was head of the all allied forces in Europe including British army) Eisonhower retired from active duty in 1952. he went on to become the president of the US from 1953-1961) but President Franklin D. Rooselvelt was commader-in-chief during world war II (died) and succeeded by then vice president Harry s. Truman who became commander-in-chief of the armed forces. both were civilians. now you see the differences. may be not because you are an idiot.

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                • 20 January 2010 08:55, by Dinka Boy

                  Gatmiraan,

                  I know that you can not make it when we argue about politics because of your shallowed knowledge about the worldhistory.
                  When did the WW2 start and who are those who involved and who was the president at that time.
                  My friend, i have no problem with any president of aleader who can wear uniform and that is why i said i diot like you can not understand the trick of Omar El Bashier on this issues of trick.

                  He knows that South is full of tribal and traitors related issues ;therefore, everyone will fight for the leadership. Omar knows Nuer better then any body that they are food lovers and parasites.

                  Don,t you think the issue is true? why are you shouting aloud if you don,t want Matip or Riek to take any position. Anyway, I will stop here because i can not feed you because you are primitive who are born empty and will die emty.
                  If you are not then why complianing about wearing of uniform while it means difference, i mean it is ironical by all means.
                  Thanks

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                  • 20 January 2010 13:16, by Hillary B.M.L,M

                    Dinka Boy

                    With resignation of Totalizator, Coward Cowboy Kirr from high Military Rank in South Sudan ,Dinkas are finished.

                    This is just for Dink Shit Boy.

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      • 20 January 2010 09:57, by Space

        There is no active Vice president when peoples are in elction. Both the President, VP and the entire parliament will be disolved with an exception of the Speaker of the Assembly who will run the nation for 60 days or so. the question of VP becoming the commander in chief is misplaced.

        Moreover, you cannot stand for presidency unless you are an MP with a full mandate from your people. Lam Akol was voted out by Shilluk during SPLM National Covention but he had to attend the convention as a nominee. I also doubt at the moment that he can be elected as an MP by his people or else he doesn’t qualify to run for Presidency. Beside that, SPLM-DC is not recognised as a party in the South and therefore the so call SPM-DC is non existenc. We should admit that South Sudan is govern by laws which must be respected by all the citizens and parties. If an institution doesn’t comform with what the law says, then it is illegal and therefore it can be regarded as null and void.

        Riek Machar is trying his best at the moment but he doesn’t represent any constituency in the next election. His peoples in Unity did not nominate him to contest represent them. He is on a party list ticket which shall be determined base on certain rating after the SPLM won an election. Being in a party list ticket is good but doesn’t carry much peoples mandate and power like elected MP.

        Matip Nhial is such a good guy who is contented where he is. There is nothing else he wants than being a deputy commander in chief. That was a big favour otherwise he wouldn’t have got it. So don’t confuse the ’Mzee’ with your cheap reasons. Riek Gai is a mere citizen like anyother ordianry Southern Sudanese. He might have done something good to his Nuers local people which have led to killing of Murle, Shilluk, Anyuak, Dinka etc. So don’t bring him to such national forum. Is a local based hero.

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    • 20 January 2010 06:04, by Bor Nhom

      coward? please kim deng or nuer guy, can you please go back to school and learn what actually does your word means? because coward is different thing to your coward.

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    • 20 January 2010 06:07, by Time1

      When do you think Omer bashir resiged from army? it was just last week my friend, even his resignation is in doubt by many, because no official ceremony or even not witnesses, people believe he is still controlling the army, you beloved Arab dictator.

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    • 20 January 2010 07:57, by okello nen

      LET HIM BOW DOWN AND CRY.CO WARD,COW BOY.

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  • 20 January 2010 06:03, by Salah

    The Commandor-in-Cheif of the armed forces is not a military position. It is a civilian position just like the president of the United States would be the Commandor-in Cheif of the military. However, a 1st Lft General is a military position and Mr. Kiir should resign from this post before running for election. It is simple.

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  • 20 January 2010 06:07, by Controller

    Gen. Salva Kiir must step down, one way or another.

    Then, LT. General Paulino Matip Nhial will be next Commander-in chief.

    Look at him with that cultural mark on his forehead that look like chicken legs.

    You will step down from your post Mr. General Kiir if you wanted to run for presidency.

    Thanks

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    • 20 January 2010 06:31, by SPLA

      You are the dummest person on this earth. Whose cultural marks are better between Kiir and Paulino Matip? Maitop is a primitive, he looks more like somebody from stone ages with Nuer marks all over his face. Kiir actually looks smarter then Matip.

      For your information, Matip will not be the next Commander in Chief. First of all, Matip is illiterate and a primitive. He does not understand either Arabic or English whether in a written or speaken form. Commander in Chief position needs somebody educated not the illiterate matip. Secondly, Matip is a traitor and there is no way that the mainstream SPLA generals will a llow him to take that post. The next commander in chief of the SPLA will be Nhial Deng Nhial or Bior Ajang Duot. If Kiir makes the mistake of naming Matip the next commander in chief then somebody will assassinate Matip.

      SPLA

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      • 20 January 2010 07:46, by Gatmi raan

        Hey SPLA

        Your are traitor yourself. how dare you wished A patriotic Southerner like Matip or any onelse in top leadership be assasinated by who? either way.. from now on i will never response to any one of your comments, untill you resind your remarks abour Gen. Matip!!!!!

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        • 20 January 2010 07:56, by SPLA

          Gatmi raan,

          How many people did Matip and Riek militias murdered? For the interest of fairness, it is good if Matip dies. He can not be murdering innocent people and on other hand be given people’s job. If John Garang is alive today, Matip would have never step his foot in Southern Sudan.

          SPLA

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          • 20 January 2010 09:05, by Gatmi raan

            SPLA

            And how many people did your perished leader( John Garang), Salva kiir, Majak agot , Kuol manyang, Daniel Awet Akot..etc murdered? let me tell you if you wanted to go down path and then we will lit South on fire. you better stopped that shit.. and move on ok!!!!! or else the South would soon be lit on fire.

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        • 20 January 2010 08:17, by Dinka Boy

          Mr Gatmiran,

          What is your point of arguments. When you talk about the 34th president of United State in your arguments. it cocluded that you don,t know what you are talking about. Please don,t insert fact without justification and that can make it irrelevent and less measurable to be reliable.

          In fact, Dwight D. Eisenhower is the 34th president at the time of World war2 and he was the commanding general during the time of war, and still the commder in chief. My friend, Bias and providing unfiltered data without justifications make your arguments less important and raw. See if we come to the point that you attempt to. Salva Kiir Mayardit is the president of South Sudan, still he can be the commanding generals,and comander in chief in the South likewise the Dwight D- the 34th president of USA by then.

          Hahhaha, then why are you crying like this while have no critical thinking about world history. Now what is the difference between Salva and Dwight if you are agennuine man . See thinks are differenece in our case South Sudan, this CPA or our problem with Arab is serious and it involve alot of trick that ablind person especially in thinking and tribal motivation can not see. Caution

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        • 20 January 2010 08:34, by Terror-hunter

          Gatmi raan

          man you better be talking straight now otherwise i will still call you a mud man ,where was Matip before CPA? he is a traitor that is why he was in Khartoum with ARABS fighting against SPLA every day,he knows nothing,no education no communication just his mother language only thoknass .he is not partriotic completely,he is a traitor ........fuck off with him

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  • 20 January 2010 06:09, by Majang

    Kiir`s resignation from millitary posission will show a true democracy in the South and that will make south to be repected by many Nations.I believe H.E.Kirr will be a good President for the South as a Nation at large.if the Laws require him to do so he must do and that only by his resignation will qualified him for presidence of the South.

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    • 20 January 2010 06:28, by Gatwech

      Wow!

      Amum has spoken at last. Well, Salvatore Kiir Miyerdit has to make a choice before the deadline in two days time, otherwise, he will be barred from constesting and the only presidential candidate to be declared by NEC will be Dr. Lam Akol in the South.

      Salvatore has to hand over the chairmanship of the SPLA Command Council to his next officer in the chain of command, General Paulino Matip. Kiir should differentiate between the Military Command Council and the GOSS Council of Ministers which he chairs.

      Salvatore should also hand over the position of Commander-in-Chief to his Vice President, Dr. Riek Machar, who will act on his behalf until he is re-elected in April and assumed being the Commander-in-Chief again. He should not continue commanding the forces during his election campaigns because he can use them to bully or intimidate other competing candidates.

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      • 20 January 2010 06:41, by Time1

        Gatwech

        You have already tried every angle and now you know that SPLM/A is not easy.

        SPLA commander council is seperate body from the commander in chief of army, SPLA command council includes civilians not only army , so kirr is on top in seniority of SPLA command council and will stay there on top even when he is not president. Also remember only the president appoints and fires people in all positions in the government, so Kirr can make changes in his government if he wish, but the command is intact and well organized now.

        I hope northern army officers who are patriotic can arrest Omer bashir after 2011 and hand him over to ICC to save Sudan from hell of NCP, but we will all work with the officers now commanding the SAF to get rid of this dictator it is good he resigned now. Did you hear about the recent rebellion of army officers in Darfur a few days ago? this is just the begining, SAF officers are starting to desregard the dictators sinces he resigned.

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      • 20 January 2010 06:45, by jack chuol

        gatwech where were you yesterday my friend? I hope you know what triator Lam siad. If Matip step in that position, he will SPLM/A to be Ngundeng tomorrow

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        • 20 January 2010 07:27, by Gatwech

          Time1,

          It seems you don’t understand the membership of the SPLA Command Council. This is purely of military officers and you cannot find any single civilian in there. All the 46 members are active generals. Please learn before commenting ignorantly.

          The constitution also doesn’t allow Kiir to maintain his power as Commander-in-Chief during elections. I know that the president is always the Commander-in-Chief even if that President is a civilian, but the law requires that during the elections he should not have that power until he is re-elected.

          Your uncle has to abide by the very law he signed or face the consequences of breaking the law.

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  • 20 January 2010 06:20, by Dinka Boy

    You guys/Nyagatins are barking for nothing.
    Even if Kiir retire his militery position, nothing prevent him from commanding.
    The militray will be given to committed man not to traitor.
    Nothing you guys will gain.
    Thanks

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    • 20 January 2010 06:37, by Dengtaath

      Kiir is required by law to step down, so is must, he has to, no doubt for that. If he can’t do that it means he cannot even lead us a president, he should respect the law.
      But Luka Biong is messing up Salva in agreat length. Salva respect his advises because of his PHD but the man is not doing good advises at all.

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    • 20 January 2010 06:45, by Kim Deng

      Coward Jaang/Slaves,

      To your one-sided understanding, it’s OK for Mr. coward/cowboy Slava Kiir to relinguish that position, but only if he gives it to other slave within coward Jaang/Slaves’ Kingdom.

      Dr. Lam is right when he said, "South Sudan is heading towards Somalization." No question about that unless you’re in the state of denial.

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  • 20 January 2010 06:33, by Majang

    you guys leave master Kiir alone he is not niterested to resign from his post whether you like it or not.he is above the laws and no Dinka man can allaws him to do so.he is a trible representative.he is not willing to be a Leader of the people and leave his posission to a Nuer man to that posission unless if he put a dinka man to matiep`s posission.so that he can breath properlly.he can`t resign by the words of the Laws but only the words of Dinkas.he just want to Rule but not to govent the Country he is also a dictater not a politian.WE Dinkas are not leader but Rulers.

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    • 20 January 2010 07:05, by man-of-his-words

      very funny!" dinka are rulers not leaders".rulers of cattles my brother.

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      • 20 January 2010 07:14, by SPLA

        man-of-his-words,

        If South Sudan is made up of cattle then DINKA are rulers of cattle. You might be right because we have people like Nuer in South Sudan who behave like cattle, so Dinka are rulers of cattle.

        SPLA

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        • 20 January 2010 07:35, by Gatwech

          It seems you don’t understand the membership of the SPLA Command Council. This is purely of military officers and you cannot find any single civilian in there. Access the list through SPLA officers. All the 46 members are active generals. Salva Kiir illegally chairs this military body if Luka Biong said he was retired already. And if he is lying and Kiir is still active in the army then he should retire and stop chairing this military council. General Paulino Matip will only be reporting to him in the same way James Wani Igga has been reporting to him parliamentary issues and Chief Justice has been reporting to him issues of Judiciary Council. Kiir should only chair GOSS Council of Ministers. Please learn before commenting ignorantly.

          The constitution also doesn’t allow Kiir to maintain his power as Commander-in-Chief during elections. I know that the president is always the Commander-in-Chief even if that President is a civilian, but the law requires that during the elections he should not have that power until he is re-elected. His Vice President, Dr. Riek Machar, should act as Commander-in-Chief until Kiir is re-elected and assumes this responsibility.

          Your uncle has to abide by the very law he signed or face the consequences of breaking the law.

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          • 20 January 2010 10:14, by Aduol Liet

            Salve Kiir Manyardit.

            Please do not let be fool by these collaboration with the Militas, including indictment killer Omar al Bashir. Although you have not able to protect Communities special the Dinkas side is okay we will fine another good leader but not these groups of Nyagat people. Sudan and Southern Sudan are not fully become a pure democartic in another word the Nyagats groups are trying very hard to get room and then, push you down just think about it. You thought you will bring unity by appointed many people who are just looking for misleading Southern Sudanese people and I think this is your mistake but you must be careful with those you had appointed.

            I know you are so far from Neur community and this is why you don’t real have Idea about them, there is a very important to know that, there is no trust from Neur people completelt and you will never even know what Riak Machar Teny was talking about in Bentiu during christmas time. The meeting was being organized by all Neur in abroad and they were blocking Dinkas meanwhile, Riak Machar Teny in Bentiu was speaking seattiles from there in Bentiu.

            As you know Dinkas did lost 1.5 million in the SPLA/SPLM Movement, none of these looking for leadership did nothing only Nubian people have struggle a lots with Dinkas and we are very happy to see Nubian man being nominate for Sudan general election which is good. We want peace among others Communities in Southern Sudan but Neur Militas of Paulino Matip Nhial and your Nyagat Vice president did not even trying to make convience to their own Tribe Neur now there are 280.000 people dies after signing peace agreement and 90% of those dies they are Dinkas people being attacked for no reason while, you are keeping quite because your leadership become more important than those Dinkas who let you to become a leader in Southern Sudan.

            Finally, how do you define your leadership now.? Bentiu Militas Communities of Neurs have been attacking unarm civilians in Tonj County and we hear nothing does mean that, you don’t even care right.? I wish all Tonj Communities must not vote for Riak Machar Teny. Tonjes people are very sorry to see a leadership does not care about them while Riak Machar and Paulino Matip Nhial who armies their Neurs Militamen are just laughting in Juba with Salve Kiir Manyardit. We feel sorry when we hear 160 people just dies last weeks ago by Neur made attacks unarm civilians and we felt sorry when a leader in Southern Sudan does not able to deal with such in a stronger ways as the late chairman was the best for all people but we will see in the coming year.

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            • 20 January 2010 12:47, by Shadrack Nuer Machut

              There should be no comment on asking Gen. Salva Kiir to put off the military uniforms until the referendum 2011 for the final independence. We shall allow people who need leadership greedily when comes a time of an autonomous govt. Let,s us now dwell under one umbrella meanwhile. There is now no right time for internal shouting for power. Leave Kiir in peace so that we all reach the independence in harmony as well.

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              • 20 January 2010 14:28, by peter pal

                Haaaaaaaaa

                Where is Dr. Luka?

                Your Poor King is going to loose his posts(Command Council to Gene. Matip and and C-in-C to Dr. Machar). Where are puppies?

                Dinka regime is declining

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              • 20 January 2010 14:30, by peter pal

                Haaaaaaaaa

                Where is Dr. Luka?

                Your Poor King is going to loose his posts(Command Council to Gene. Matip and and C-in-C to Dr. Machar). Where are puppies?

                Thank you SPLM’s Amum. Please don’t go on these POOR DINKAS’ WAY.

                Dinka regime is declining

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        • 20 January 2010 19:22, by man-of-his-words

          Nuer are well understandble and easy to get with any tribes in south ,and also Nuer do not like people(dinka)to tell them what to do .Nuer always says no if it is for no and yes for yes by satisfactory.ist the reason you dinka dont like nuer and others?.cause they dont do what you dinka want.then you dinka are dreaming, if you waiting for southerners to be controling with your stopid plan.

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  • 20 January 2010 14:32, by charles Riek

    Dear southerner

    It great shamefull to our empty mind president Salva Kiir to repeat two mistake at the same time. 1. He refuse to run for sudan presidency just prepare for south presidency
    2. He is claiming to for run for presidency while having military title. Poor Dinka who is fighting for his stomach not for southerners right. though you run for southern presidency you will never get it. we will vote for Dr lam not empty mind like you, coward dinka.
    your poor naturally that is why you are corrupt never get satisfy. I Wish God can take you and south remean peacefull nation.

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  • 20 January 2010 14:33, by Johnny

    Article 111(1) of the Interim Constitution of Southern Sudan, 2005, states that the President of the Government of Southern Sudan shall be the Commander-in-Chief of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army "prior to the elections that shall be held during the interim period."

    whats’ hell you talking about? can u shut up.

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    • 20 January 2010 21:53, by junub

      Whatever to your pathetic illusion man, still president Kiir had to stepped down from the army as the National Election commission adviced. Kiir was actually retired in 2005 by late SPLA C in C and the founder of the movement, Dr. Garang, so do bear in mind retirement of Kiir from the SPLA army is new to him.

      Shame is actually on he Kiir that he is too currupted that he even enstated himself about the 40 SPLA general whereas he isn’t. Kiir had got away with this scandal since 2007 as revealed, but not to National Election commission’s eyes anymore.

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