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Sudan electoral board warns Salva Kiir to resign from his military position

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January 16, 2010 (JUBA) – The Sudan’s National Elections Commission (NEC) has sent a warning letter to the semi-autonomous Southern Sudan President and the region’s presidential candidate, General Salva Kiir Mayardit, to relinquish his military post in order to qualify to run for the upcoming April 2010 elections.

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FVP Salva Kiir Mayadrit (photo by S. Ove Korneliussen)

The Electoral Law requires that all aspirants who serve in the military, civil service or are judges and want to contest for political positions in the elections should first resign from such jobs.

The SPLM Political Bureau on Friday formally nominated the incumbent chairman, Salva Kiir, without any challenger, as the candidate for the Southern Sudan presidency position.

The warning by NEC came immediately after the nomination of General Kiir who is also the interim First Vice President of the Republic of Sudan.

The Chairman of the Registration Committee in the National Elections Commission, Mukhtar Al Asam, said the Commission had already sent a written letter to the Southern Sudan President, Salva Kiir Mayardit, explaining that he cannot be eligible to run for the elections while still holding his military position.

Speaking during a radio program on Friday, Al Asam said that the rule applies to all military personnel without any exception.

Kiir is currently an active army General in the Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) and heads the recently formed military Command Council, composed of more than 40 senior SPLA officers, and he is also the Commander-in-Chief of the army by the virtue of being the President of the Government of Southern Sudan (GoSS).

Earlier, the Presidential Affairs minister Dr. Luka Biong Deng who is a close aide to Southern Sudan president ruled out any possibility of General Kiir stepping down from the army after nomination.

However, the Deputy Secretary General of the SPLM and the party’s newly nominated presidential candidate at the national level, Yassir Arman, revealed on Saturday that the SPLM had already formed committees to study all the legal and procedural disputes of the elections.

In another related development, the SPLM Secretary General, Pagan Amum, said the movement’s Political Bureau also discussed the possibility of forming alliances with some parties in Northern and Southern Sudan for the upcoming elections.

Speaking during a press conference in Juba on Friday, Amum also pointed out that the SPLM Political Bureau would soon announce the party’s candidates running for the executive and legislative posts across the country.

NEC has set January 22, as the deadline for receiving the names of selected candidates.

The Commission will directly receive the name of the SPLM candidate for the post of the President of the Republic while the candidate for Southern Sudan president will first pass through the Southern Sudan High Elections Committee in Juba before submitting it to the NEC headquarters in Khartoum.

NEC is a national legal body established by law in 2008 in accordance with the Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA) and the Interim Constitution of Sudan, 2005.

It is charged with the responsibility to process and oversee the conduct of the post-war general elections during the interim period and has established branches at Southern Sudan and states levels.

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  • 17 January 2010 05:17, by Kim Deng

    Folks,

    Mr. Coward/cowboy will never yield to your signal.

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    • 17 January 2010 05:24, by Dinka Boy

      Kim Deng,

      Salva Kiir Mayardit will led Goss whether you like it or not.
      No secrete here and this is where we fuck people.

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      • 17 January 2010 05:31, by SPLA

        Kim Deng,

        Do not celebrate, even if Kiir resign his commissioning he will still be the Commander in Chief of SPLA forces because he is the president of GOSS.

        I can guarantee you that Matip will not be the top SPLA general if Kiir steps down from military. Kiir will likely appoint Kuol Manyang or Daniel Awat Akot to lead the newly formed SPLA Command.

        SPLA

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        • 17 January 2010 05:42, by peter pal

          Fuck you SPLA and your uncle

          It is the last step for Dinka to loose their posts.
          How can he give Daniel whom he kicked away from being a candidate. Kuol was cheated by POOR KING for the post of SPLA AFFAIRS

          Fuck you

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          • 17 January 2010 05:44, by Gatwech

            Ahahahaaa….

            I told you yesterday that the so-called SPLM political bureau is mostly composed of a bunch of political idiots who do not see things beyond their short noses. They would have studied the implications of the law before they blindly rushed to the nomination of an incompetent military man, 1st Lt. General Salva Kiir Mayardit, head of the SPLA Command Council and Commander-in-Chief of the SPLA.

            Both Interim Constitutions of Sudan and of Southern Sudan clearly reject any member of the army to stand for political posts DURING the elections. Unfortunately some of these SPLM political idiots think that what they think and wish is what matters most than what the law says. IDIOTS!

            The same electoral law which requires that Salva Kiir resigns from military was jointly negotiated by the SPLM and NCP, passed in the National Assembly jointly by the two parties and signed into law by President Al-Bashir in front of Salva Kiir. And today Dr. Luka Biong Deng wants to deny the constitutional requirement simply because he wishes his boss to remain in military? Wow…

            The NEC has already ruled its decision in advance. Salva Kiir will have to handover his military position to his next man in the chain of command and that is 1st Lt. General Paulino Matip Nhial. Failure to do so Salva Kiir will not be allowed to run for the presidential elections in South Sudan or even for the seat in his constituency. And if he instead hands over the military position to another handpicked officer, that will be a disaster in the army because he will be violating the army chain of command unless he first dismisses 1st Lt. General Paulino Matip from the army. And the implication is that dismissing General Paulino with the clear intention to bring his kin to replace him in this situation is very risky because that will not be respected. It will have no legal and procedural basis and will simply be treated as a tribal conspiracy outside the law. And that will be the violation of the Juba Declaration, 2006.

            Again, Salva Kiir still has a long list of other legal challenges waiting for him after this army saga. One of them is the case of Dr. Lam Akol’s registered political party which General Kiir dictatorially said would not run for the elections in the South. The Constitutional Court in Khartoum rejected Kiir’s decision describing it as unconstitutional and ordered Kiir to reverse it by allowing Dr. Lam Akol’s party to operate actively in the South without any intimidations or harassments. Kiir has been ignoring the ruling of the Court.

            Kiir is needed to reverse his decision; otherwise the Constitutional Court will charge him for violating the constitution which is the supreme law of the land that of course brought Kiir himself as First Vice President and President of the South. There are other legal cases as well…

            And if he luckily clears himself toothless and clean by cooperating with whatever the NEC tells him to do according to the law, then finally he will face the ‘NO FOR SALVA KIIR’s’ voting power of the people of South Sudan in April 2010. He will definitely lose the elections.

            And if Salvatore Kiir Miyerdit resorts to dictatorship that would be the ‘whistle blowing’ many people are waiting to see. He will find himself in a bottomless pit, locally, regionally and internationally. Every body will shout at him; the people, the army, the government, the AU, the UN Security Council and the wider international community. He will be isolated by all these bodies and treated as violator of the law and therefore a dictator and criminal. This will invite internal chaos with Salva Kiir losing out!!!

            The people of South Sudan are not ready to experience another five years of incompetence, corruption, tribalism, insecurity, visionless, lack of development (service delivery), lack of political direction, land grabbing, and the list is long.

            Salvatore Kiir Miyerdit will NEVER be sworn in as the next and first ELECTED president of South Sudan because he doesn’t deserve it.

            Mark my WORDS!

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            • 17 January 2010 06:08, by SPLA

              Gatwech Deng,

              You are underestimating Kiir and Dinka power.

              Did you know that when James Hoth Mai became the SPLA Chief of Staffs, Kiir reployed those who were senior to him to other positions just to make room for Jame Hoth. Kiir made Bior Ajang the Deputy Secretary for the Mininstry of SPLA Affair and Salva Mathok became advisor to Kiir. Both Bior and Mathok are senior to james Hoth.

              This is what is going to happen.

              1. Kiir will appoint Kuol Manyang or Daniel Awat Akot to lead the SPLA.

              2. There will be a mass retirement of SPLA officers including Paulino Matip so to make room for A junior general that Kiir wants to lead the SPLA. Likely if this happens,General Pang Deng Kuol will be the top SPLA general.
              Trust me, MATIP WILL NEVER be be given that post.

              SPLA

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              • 17 January 2010 18:29, by MJriaksdca

                My Fellow Dinka Must Stop Bullying Other Tribes for their Good and Others’ Good:
                I want to notify my friends Dinka people that you must be disappointed by the state of affairs in southern Sudan for all these times. Tribalism, killing, suffering, and division have been the bitter taste of lives of most southerners. If I have to prioritize the leading contributors to the suffering of southerners, I would put Dinka first. For being majority in south, Dinka have been thinking and doing it actually that they can bully other tribes: call them names such as nyegat, food lovers, coward, didn’t fight tribes like equatorians and the likes. these are the remote causes of our suffering which triggered Nuer or others to kill and hate Dinka. These name-calling must stop or suffering will continue because tribalism is being fed or fueled by Dinka. If we love peace and unity in our land, please stop bulling and learn to speak righteously. I know killing one’s family or relative like Nuer did in Bor is never a thing anyone should condone, but it will continue to repeat itself not only in Bor but elsewhere too and suffering will continue. Let us stop feeling all the time to support tribes. Remember having a tribe is not bad. It is the decision of the Maker, God who created us speaking different languages, but life is different from tribes. It is a common gift to all and peace, unity, and love must be primary principles to sooth life, make it enjoyable, and good. Each one should try to love, promote unity, and peace for the good of the Dinka, Nuer, Equatorians, Shiluks, and the ress.

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                • 19 January 2010 07:42, by Atem Deng malek

                  Kiir has to remain as commander inchief for SPLM/SPLA

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            • 17 January 2010 06:29, by murlescrewed

              Hahahaha....PATHETIC TRAITORS,

              We will see whether the NEC can come to SOUTH and enforce its decision. What is said in Khartoum is irrelevant to Southerners. South has more pressing issues to consider before getting to what jellabah says.

              For Nuer traitors salivating over this minor detail, we tell you that it will never amount to much. Kiir will retain his post till there is a clear that SOUTH has been secured.

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            • 17 January 2010 08:08, by thokpiny de Deng de Thokpiny

              Guys write resonable things here .you look like ancient people if you write shits on the web

              Kiir remain in his post i think since the rest of the politician are blind to lead as to hell in Khartoum

              or some are weak hearted to endure arab pressure

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              • 17 January 2010 10:47, by Moses Kur Akech

                Hello folks! I think giving virtual resignation like that of Bashir does give some positive gesture of readiness for democratic change. Where around the globe in democratic societies can a candidate contest while active in the army. I know S.Sudan is not a democratic society but has historically pledged to spearhead democratic transformation across the country this has been one of the fundamental ideals during struggle. This touching ideal must initially be put into practice in Juba in order to make it a reality across the country.

                I am aware z the current situation of the South requires active army and thus the patriotic generals tasked with that work must be left to command during elections time so that politics can be free from military influence of which if allowed powerless civilians may fall victims of their own state’s oppression. Monash Uni academic Professor of democratic principles says millions of politicians can easily pick up and sing the term democracy but only one tenth of those which can wholeheartedly put democratic principles and values into practice. He goes on to say that no being is prefect in politics to completely avoid temptation should army and police be left intertwined with the politics.

                I intend to say that let’s jointly support our folks to respect and align themselves with democratic principles and values where we all will no longer be prisoners of primitive world characterized by lethal tribalism, greediness, idleness, nepotism, unethical behavior, illiteracy and the list goes on and on. Let’s encourage them to copy costless basic ethics from matured democracies in order to secure the costly dream where our kids and grant kids will harvest the sweetest fruits of the dream which caused limps, labor and sadly lives of beloved ones during struggle. The dream of which many folks across the country sacrificed themselves in the brutal civil wars surviving without or with limited material support, but survived with the spiraling hope that even in hundred years later their kids and grant kids would freely leave the ghettos and slums of the deadly man-made poverty and permanently resettle in the golden Island of abundant opportunities.

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                • 17 January 2010 15:50, by Space

                  Guys
                  South Sudan is not a democratic State yet and will not accept anybody with a vague vision towards the future of South Sudanese Peoples to lead Southern Sudanese Peoples to the destiny. SPLA will neither allowed any General without any committed background to lead SPLA. That’s why there was SPLM primaries of electing committed SPLM Mps to the parliament.

                  Otherwise the rest of the argurments you are posting on this site are merely imaginations which shall never materialised. We still need Holy People with consistency and persistency to champion the course. We still do welcome people who corrected themselves out of the past mistakes to joint the struggle but not with greediness and useless ambitions that can lead this region to hell.

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                  • 17 January 2010 21:40, by Moses Kur Akech

                    I didn’t say S.South is a democratic state however, bear in your mind that democracy is instantly assumed when state establishes its own system of governance. Those who assume office are automatically expected to be engaging with great sense of servicing their own people through universal principles of transparency and accountability. I agree with you that unpatriotic Generals should not be left to lead the army and shouldn’t have been allowed to top posts. However, I don’t agree with your argument supporting those candidates contesting for civilian positions to maintain military posts I am very sure there are plenty of patriotic generals who can lead during elections Once again be reminded that true democratic elections comes through the set democratic paths.

                    Thus, the wisdom behind your argument is rationally rquestionable. I think you are just being hysterical bro I don’t see any worrying reason why Kiir’s government failed to call trusted generals sometimes back and task them with the commanding duties during this very short time. He could still maintain close links with those generals and hence can virtually maintain his post like Bashir. Furthermore, Kiir’s challenger can not even defeat him in actual sense because Kiir can undoubtedly lead people to the promised land when compared with his challenger and I don’t comprehend where this hysteria comes from. I think the architects got it wrong.

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                  • 19 January 2010 15:12, by twins

                    S. Sudan must pratice what it preaches. If it says there is democratic, then why don’t South Sudanese practice it? plus SPLA/m leaders should have known better. If there is no democratic in South Sudan, let we not please blame bishir for his cruelness. What everone says on this website is suggesst to me that Bishir is more democratic than any of Southerner leader, or spla specifically.
                    remember, no one is oly except Jesus Crist.

                    Noriak

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            • 17 January 2010 21:08, by Simon Maguor

              Gatwech,

              You’re simply a tribalist. Your clumsy article shows that you’re out of south Sudan. What your kith and kin, Lam akol, did was conspiracy against South Sudan; both the government and its people. A party that is intended to redeem South Sudanese and headed by genuine visionary South Sudanese is formed and runs its affairs in the South. What’s it that is unique with Lam’s party that led to its formation and operation in the north. Why does your Lam Akol get money from the Arab world so that he campaigns for the unity of the Sudan which is absolutely of advantage to the north? Why does he organize rallies against the SPLM in the north if he is a real Southerner? Who in the South does not know Lam’s dirty politcal background?

              To remind you, Lam is a political opportunist! He enjoys any mistake or misfortune in the South. He’s using the volatile politcal situation as a economic asset to fill his portable granary holow that both ends (his stomach). He;s a curse to the South. He’ll never rule the South, Opportunists have no visions. You should advice him so that he doesn;t trade in that dangerous zone. The risk he;s undertaking in that business is the greatest risk that cannot be insured against.

              Juba, the seat of GoSS and the Capital of South Sudan has grown to a standard it has never attained in teh nads of your Khartoum masters. GoSS has done and is doing its best to make sure service delivery is effected. Anyway, there may be traces of corruption BUT all over the world let alone S. Sudan, corruption is anavoidable. It’s a matter of time it will disappear. I’d ask you a simple question but your incapacitated brain cannot give a suitable answer. TEST: How much money did Sudan get from its export before 2005? And How much of this money was used to develop the South? What of after the 1996/7 agreements with Khartoum by Lam and Machar, how much did the South get? What structural evidence can convince that your Lam can deliver services to the South?

              Ya gatwech. Take care of words. He who does not realize his/her mistakes is a fool. You have not realised Lam’s blunders and even your own so, you are a fool.

              REVISE YOURSELF FOOL OF FOOLS.

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            • 18 January 2010 00:51, by Nuerfudinka

              The Unity State’s Bentiu re-elected the governor taban Deng .

              The SPLM government dismiss all the contesant for the governorship.

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              • 19 January 2010 10:03, by Ayok

                What bring women in the Policies?
                Let Nyadeng go home to her husband to monitor her home affairs, and we don’t want her to led our State Warrap. what she know apart from State.
                Only few of Warrap citizen who are greed on her but,not whole of State. Re-elect again Warrap Governor to Dium Cyer or Anei Kuendit.

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          • 17 January 2010 07:20, by Dinka Boy

            Pal,

            My friend, you are so frustrated dear.
            Kiir Mayardit will be president in the South. Do you have question about that?, and he will still command the army while he is apresident. Do you have more question on that too. He is not lossing any position ,but still the president of South.

            Dear, erase Riek Machar from your presidency or commanding the aermy. Matip Nhial too is there and he works with alot of SPLA commenders /SPLA affairs.
            Please calm down instead of cry like this other you will drop like bird on the tree.
            Thanks

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          • 17 January 2010 21:48, by Angelo Nyang

            first of all be a human to know what going on in Sudan,if you don,t know whose is your enemy ask yourself whose fuck your mother and sister in 1983 unit today,so you have to know from now if is not Dinka you can,t leave to talk about political to you should give thank to Dinka are brought you to be a human today to about political what i you so far Salva Kirr is not going to leave a military, because military is a main power you can,t going give someone he don,t know his right like maip if tomorrow the Arad going to give him the money is going to kill us like before. fuck you any fuck people like you don,t them right

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        • 17 January 2010 06:46, by Nyiker

          Hey Kim Deng

          This is the law, when there is law also there is constitution, and Mr. Kiir must respect this law and constitution because the position is not for his family this position for people, nation you know what it mean Kim??
          You can not say that Kiir will stay you want or don’t!!
          If you and Kiir doesn’t respect the law that mean you are not respecting our people of Southern Sudan and Kiir must go home to be with his cows.

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      • 17 January 2010 05:34, by peter pal

        YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Kim Deng

        Let them go with their Uncle. Long Live to SEPARATISTS

        SLAVES

        Where is your Uncle
        SLAVE will not lead South to dark. Coward SLAVE.

        SPLM had done its job but NEC is pushing Coward SLAVE in to hell

        Death to UNIONISTS

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        • 17 January 2010 05:53, by SPLA

          You people do not understand anything. Resigning from being general in the SPLA does not prevent Kiir from controlling the army. He will still be the commander in chief just because he is the president. Generals take orders from the president.

          It is very simple, Kiir will resign his commissioning and run for the presidency. He will also appoint somebody who he trust to be the top SPLA general so that he can carry out his agendas. That top general will NEVER BE PAULINO MATIP. Kiir will appoint somebody from the mainstream SPLA not militia to be SPLA top general

          SPLA

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          • 17 January 2010 14:42, by Mr.Makuach bergoa

            Hi spla

            you are a really backward Dinka I never see, if you are one of Kiir adviser it,s better to give him a constructive directions about how to handle things around him, but it,s too late for you to comments the expired and wrong thoughts, your comment will only fit all viewers of this website that you Dinka don,t trust the rest of southren sudan.

            Brothers who are reading day and night in this website you need to understand carefully how our country is going to be survived at the way Dinka intellectual analyse the future of south sudan and how to governing ourselves.

            Thankyou

            Mr. Makuach Bergoa

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        • 17 January 2010 05:53, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

          Dinkas boy

          Stop aggressiveness, one bullet can’t kill two deers at different locations at once, why crying for Kiir to serve two responsibility at once? tribal attitude is one of the worse spirit in the World. Don’t just support him because he is from your family, focus on the future of Southerns which is in your hands. With such attitude you may lose you chance of becoming future leader in South or Bor. Because a genuine man who never forgets his people always embrace the nation as one, stop seeing South Sudan as a nation of thousand ethics. act far from being specific to ethic and more triablism support. I like your view for supporting Kiir’s leadership, but as I stated above. One hand cannot do two duties at once in separate directions.

          You and Kiir have the choice, he can go for presidency and you will serve as commander in chief or you go for presidency and he stays behind. Sometimes you talk of Kuol, if you think he is the right person then decide between him or Kiir. However there is possiblity that other eligible leaders can apply, because the position is not reserve to two people only. Every leader who has an interest in commander in chief or presidency can come forward after Kiir has made his finally decision. Which is stay behind or confront with Lam for the victory. The other contestant for South Sudan president is Lam, I think you remembered the declaration since yesterday.

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      • 17 January 2010 05:41, by Mr. Awan Awan

        Mr/Mrs. Kim,

        Your representative Gatwech told me last time that you are a male, which did not convince me. I really want to hear from you. What is your gender? Are you male or female? If you are a female, I encourage you to joint and participate on 25% of south Sudan representation but, if you are a male, please behave like male. Your comments or arguments are not interesting or convenience.

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        • 17 January 2010 05:46, by peter pal

          Please AWAN or ....

          Bury your dead king his body before election

          Where is Dr. Luka?

          Fuck you all

          Welcome NUER, GREAT EQUATORIAN< SHILLUK< and OTHER MARGINALIZED TRIBES to South Sudan.

          SLAVES/DINKAS regime is over

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          • 17 January 2010 05:52, by Mr. Awan Awan

            Peter Pal

            I am not a female. So, how could you fuck me and all? Are you a gay? Is so, then go to hell. We don’t practice those activities in our community. I don’t have time for you.

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            • 17 January 2010 20:39, by Dakbai

              Hey Barbaric peter Pal

              You posted a months ago that your uncle Riek will be president in thirteen months. After the nomination of Dr. kiir Mayardit to run for presidency in the southern Sudan, are you still wishing him bad luck you were dreaming for? Or are you still counting your months of your uncle Dr. Riek to be president as you prophecies? From here i will pause and wait for your response nincompoop.

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      • 17 January 2010 05:42, by Ambago

        Dear All

        None is above the law. The respect of law is the beginning of leadership and not otherwise.

        Let us hope that we are all learning our civics lesson as a nation to be.

        However we still have a long way to walk, and our struggles shall not go in vein.

        All shall see and share the beauty of free democracy, free, fair and transparent elections that can be deemed credible.

        A better tomorrow for our children meanwhile we relentlessly struggle to promote the sense of good governence and democratic values.

        We shall continue to reject and resist all forms of tribal visionless arrogance for the sake of an inclusive homeland for all.

        Dr. JAC. Ramba

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        • 17 January 2010 05:55, by Dinka Boy

          Ambago,

          I always skipped your tribalist articles that you blindly compose on the net.
          Salva will hold any position that can keep SPLM live live alone your wish of weak heart food lovers who are always hidding under Khartoum umbrella when their war and come out like rat in the hole when their is no war.
          Salva Kiir will go nowhere at the moment. SPLM/A Oyeee.
          Hey Ambago, Who do you support to be president of South at the moment. Just tell me.

          You are alaways beating about the bush and that is the sign of coward person. You are coward Arab traitor dear.
          Please the presidency of South to traitor mean more conflict then your wish.
          I hate your articles in most cases because the apathetic and triatoring the SPLM.
          Thanks

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          • 17 January 2010 06:08, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

            Dinkas boy

            Stop smashing your nose on the wall, what do you mean by "Salva will hold any position that can keep SPLM live" Kiir doesn’t account at all. Imagine since we lost the great founder of SPLA what has been the differences in your eyes? nothing means even if Kiir get kick out of SPLA still SPLA will exist in the hands of Dr hero Riek, Hon Hero Igga and etc.

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    • 17 January 2010 05:31, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

      Absolutely the nail is hitting South Sudan in its engine. This is what i was crying about when Dr Biong reserve uncertain positions to Kiir. It is unwise for one person to have more than one responsiblity. This has never been a sign of democracy step. It is now upto Kiir, either to take one choice, go for presidency and lose his future GOSS if he is unsucessfyll or stay behind and leave someone to contest with Lam Akol. Wonderful its not me alone who is fighting and supporting SPLA on the right track. Things must be done accordingly. This will prove good management of South Sudan which will improve the insecurity, corruption and tribalism.

      New Year Message continuous to inspire

      Time for tribalism has gone, 2010 is not a time to generalise tribe or community instead of one person. It is time to focus on the real issue far from tribal criticism, political party criticism, leaders criticism, and very far from abuses or insults. We should also debate far from abuses of any single commenter on ST forum, to myself I want to be a man of tolerance, peace, responsbility, respect, forgiveness, love, unity and courage . It is time to get serious and work for the betterment of my nation South Sudan Democratic Republic of Victoria, South Sudan should be call Victoria, because the long struggle is victory, CPA is victory, South Sudan liberation is victory, our insecurity will be a victory, election and referrendom are potential victories. South Sudan future source of hydro electricity power is White nile which has its source at Lake Victoria, unqestionable the name fits.

      I didn’t change myself because of pressure or whatsoever, it could be my 2010 resolution. For now lets start new year with fresh mind and positive ideas that will improvement the managment of South Sudan, childish comments must be ignored. Some individual comment aggressively when they are defeated in debate, this spirit must be abandon. We are here to play a game ie you get defeated or you defeat others defends on the article and the extend of your debate, but don’t insult people. This is my new year message to ST viewers, contributors, pseuds, readers and editor.

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      • 17 January 2010 05:38, by peter pal

        YES Big Logic

        Our words sound good but kick SLAVES to hell

        This is Kiir’s choice to resign or not. If he resigned, he will be kick out by coup. If he doesn’t want to resign, let them nominate Dr. Machar

        Long Live SEPARATISTS

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        • 17 January 2010 05:45, by Dinka Boy

          Pal,

          Who can make coup against Salva Kiir Mayardit? Zero.
          this is were we fuck people dear.

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          • 17 January 2010 05:51, by peter pal

            SPLA, DINKA

            Didn’t We tell you that don’t believe Kiir and his group?
            What about Lt. Gen. Matip, Kuol Manyang, Daniel Awet, James Hoth? Do you think they will be loyal to the POOR KING?

            Let his go back to Gogrial

            Shame on his failure

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      • 17 January 2010 21:25, by anti-nyagat

        hey positions are not being distributed here like ration.you have to buy it through barrel of gun or buy it with blood.we buoght these positions with blood of our dinka sons thus we deserve to ruled for ten years to be our rewards.after all this military position is always for president ,he can give it to his brother,his son etc.further more don,t for get that arabs are far ,they rae at the corner & you guys(nuer &equatorian ) may run back to khartuom,ethiopia & uganda.and leave us in problems when think get tuogher .we know you are good at eating.so by advise you is to let.s dinka finish this bitter parts & when it comes to eating latter(2011) we will give you bigger share.i warn you never try to threat us with mess you will caurse if you are not given any position you guys want .we can still resist any kind of nyagteen like the way we resist them some years ago.those gangs of ssim,eqautoria defend force & thier master arabs of khartuom

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    • 17 January 2010 05:36, by William Okuch

      Those who called themselves as people who are born to are in real test before all Sudanese and international community.
      You all know how greedy and selfish person behave with two hands full of food. If you are hungry and ask that person to give you one of a food he/she holding in her/his two hands, that person would doubt looking at food at both hands. To give a food from right hand seen to that person impossible and looking to at food at left hand and sees it impossible too. Finnaly, that person will say no because his/her greed and selfishness obligates him/her not to show generousity.
      It is the same issue to Salva Kiir today and his supporters who worngly cheated the whole Sudan nation to die for democarcy. Time has come to prove that and they are now proving themselve to all Sudanese people and the world that they were cheaters not true advoctes for democracy.
      Kiir must empty his one hand and keep other full if he love Sudan, South and if he belong to the world system or do it his way to prove they are difference to others.

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    • 17 January 2010 05:40, by Nile

      If Salva kiir is not ready for military coup then he needs to resign immediately. Kiir should’ve learned this very well from Bashir and resign right a way before things can got really ugly. besides, it’s a time to respect the law. Last months he was complaining about NCP refusing to implement some parts of CPA. Now he wanted to violate the interim consitution which came as a result comprehensive peace agreement, what is wrong with him really?

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      • 17 January 2010 05:47, by Dinka Boy

        Nile,

        Don,t cry like little girl who fear her mam.
        Coup? zero my friend.
        Just make coup if you will make it.
        It will be like Riek and Lam.
        Thanks

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        • 17 January 2010 05:54, by peter pal

          SLAVE BOY

          You will not take 5 days without having breaking news for your POOR KING.

          Almighty Nuer are coming

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          • 17 January 2010 06:21, by Michael Madit Magot

            Dear All,

            Kiir Mayardit must respect the law and handover the Commander in chief position to Lt Gen. Paulino matip Nhial.
            There should have been no mistaking the procedure in the first place by Kiir mayardit.
            He should be acting as an example to the South publics by obeying the law which rule us all.

            My sincere request to discussants is that we must not take any slight error as between Nuer and Dinka.
            These leaders are our leaders not because of where they came from but because of what they are offering to us as Southerners.

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          • 17 January 2010 15:27, by Yier Edward

            Hey,Peter Pal.
            Why do you want to spoil the beautiful name of Nuer by saying such dirty words which are not longer having room in the modern world.Don,t you have sense of nationalism?it makes me crazy and start blaming God for having created me in Southern Sudan where young men are busy getting themselves into such situations forgetting to clearly think as to what their future would look like in creating hatred among themselves.Are Dinka and Nuer the only tribes in Southern Sudan? Pliz stop this.How many years have gone being ruled by arabs and nobody among you here on this website had talked as you do now.I hate all of you for hating yourselves.

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            • 17 January 2010 17:59, by peter pal

              Yier Edward

              Your King is not going to rule. Though even if we were under Jellaba, Dinka could do the same? If you are blaming God you can hang yourself.

              Pick one of the dirty word I used. Is it POOR KING(poor in every thing except the looted money he have) , or Almighty Nuer?

              Change your name first, otherwise nonsense.

              Death to UNIONISTS and VICTORY to SEPARATISTS

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      • 17 January 2010 05:55, by Gatwech

        Ahahahaaa….

        I told you yesterday that the so-called SPLM political bureau is mostly composed of a bunch of political idiots who do not see things beyond their short noses. They would have studied the implications of the law before they blindly rushed to the nomination of an incompetent military man, 1st Lt. General Salva Kiir Mayardit, head of the SPLA Command Council and Commander-in-Chief of the SPLA.

        Both Interim Constitutions of Sudan and of Southern Sudan clearly reject any member of the army to stand for political posts DURING the elections. Unfortunately some of these SPLM political idiots think that what they think and wish is what matters most than what the law says. IDIOTS!

        The same electoral law which requires that Salva Kiir resigns from military was jointly negotiated by the SPLM and NCP, passed in the National Assembly jointly by the two parties and signed into law by President Al-Bashir in front of Salva Kiir. And today Dr. Luka Biong Deng wants to deny the constitutional requirement simply because he wishes his boss to remain in military? Wow…

        The NEC has already ruled its decision in advance. Salva Kiir will have to handover his military position to his next man in the chain of command and that is 1st Lt. General Paulino Matip Nhial. Failure to do so Salva Kiir will not be allowed to run for the presidential elections in South Sudan or even for the seat in his constituency. And if he instead hands over the military position to another handpicked officer, that will be a disaster in the army because he will be violating the army chain of command unless he first dismisses 1st Lt. General Paulino Matip from the army. And the implication is that dismissing General Paulino with the clear intention to bring his kin to replace him in this situation is very risky because that will not be respected. It will have no legal and procedural basis and will simply be treated as a tribal conspiracy outside the law. And that will be the violation of the Juba Declaration, 2006.

        Again, Salva Kiir still has a long list of other legal challenges waiting for him after this army saga. One of them is the case of Dr. Lam Akol’s registered political party which General Kiir dictatorially said would not run for the elections in the South. The Constitutional Court in Khartoum rejected Kiir’s decision describing it as unconstitutional and ordered Kiir to reverse it by allowing Dr. Lam Akol’s party to operate actively in the South without any intimidations or harassments. Kiir has been ignoring the ruling of the Court.

        Kiir is needed to reverse his decision; otherwise the Constitutional Court will charge him for violating the constitution which is the supreme law of the land that of course brought Kiir himself as First Vice President and President of the South. There are other legal cases as well…

        And if he luckily clears himself toothless and clean by cooperating with whatever the NEC tells him to do according to the law, then finally he will face the ‘NO FOR SALVA KIIR’s’ voting power of the people of South Sudan in April 2010. He will definitely lose the elections.

        And if Salvatore Kiir Miyerdit resorts to dictatorship that would be the ‘whistle blowing’ many people are waiting to see. He will find himself in a bottomless pit, locally, regionally and internationally. Every body will shout at him; the people, the army, the government, the AU, the UN Security Council and the wider international community. He will be isolated by all these bodies and treated as violator of the law and therefore a dictator and criminal. This will invite internal chaos with Salva Kiir losing out!!!

        The people of South Sudan are not ready to experience another five years of incompetence, corruption, tribalism, insecurity, visionless, lack of development (service delivery), lack of political direction, land grabbing, and the list is long.

        Salvatore Kiir Miyerdit will NEVER be sworn in as the next and first ELECTED president of South Sudan because he doesn’t deserve it.

        Mark my WORDS!

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        • 17 January 2010 06:07, by Thyinka

          The resignation of Salva Kiir from the Army doesn’t mean that he has to give up command of the army. He will still head the army by virtue of being president of Southern sudan and commander in chief of the armed forces. Maybe the only thing that may change is that his title of General may have retired written after it.

          By the way, there should be no fear of his resignation because times are unpredictable and he can put back his uniform any time. It is better for everybody to play according to the rule at the moment. I don’t think there is anything Paulino Matip can do even if he becomes the head of the army that he is not doing now in his capacity as a deputy because he will still be under Kiir since Kiir is the head of all the armed forces in Southern Sudan by virtue of his being president.

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    • 17 January 2010 06:49, by American Missile.

      Salva Kiir will not resign if that is what stress you in the Boards.Sudan Electoral Commission board have not educates people on how Election is all about.

      By American Missile.

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    • 17 January 2010 08:55, by Tony Komayiit

      TO kim Deng,

      it is unfoutunately that general kiir is trying to maintaned the dignity of southern sudan not like what your uncle Riek deed to sole out the
      right of south oil in 1990 to the same arabs that are islamist your communty,we shall defence him by all mean and quote me right,
      SPLA SHALL WIN BY ALL DOORS ,WE ARE UNITED UNDER KIIR DICTATORSHIP AND LIBERATE YOU OUT OF SLAVERY!

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    • 17 January 2010 12:52, by mack waweru

      Kim Deng,

      You are against Salva Kiir who is not a match either to your father or you. Why always point your bony fingers at him? Better mind your future.

      The warning letter from NEC is not acceptable. This is an interference,since this body is tasked to over see national elections with exception of the South. South Sudan has its own election body. If NEC is politicized, then SPLM will boycott the whole process. South Sudan Election Committee is the only body that has a jurisdiction to rule whether Kiir should run while in uniform or not. Then, they would send their ruling to NEC,which would accept it without any complain.

      Mack Awer

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    • 17 January 2010 12:53, by samuel_kur@yahoo.ca

      Dear Brothers.

      I think Governments are not based on personalities, but on rules and believes if national election committee sees,that the person who is eligible for running election is supposed to be a civil person, i think no doubt on that Salva Kiir must give in one of his positions to seems logical. Other wise, its will look like dictatorship and that is will be an other issue.

      I believe there are capable men in SPLM/SPLA who will do the same job who Kiir is doing at presidency position or military that is one point, second point i suggest Paulino Matip should not given military chairmanship for one reason, Paulino Matip is not a genuine person to be given those tasks, because he doesn’t have any believe his only believe is Money, and he could give enemies our secret if they gave him money, look Paulino Matip history was as following. first of all he was a Buol chief soldier During Sultan Luk Galuak, before that he was a cattle thief, he used to still cattle from every where in Bentiu Region, when sultan Luk Galuak saw that he appointed him as his a country police as he knows all of thieves who were working with him to stop a dilemma of stilling cows, at real when Sultan Luk Galuak did that the dilemma of stolen cattle had stopped.

      When Paulino Matip went to SPLA,he didn’t means to liberate The south he just wanted to get trained and a gun, and that was true when he had trained and got arm he walk away of SPLA immediately, as he work to collect his former men to begin stilling again.

      General Paulino Matip was not comfortable in Mayom area, while his boss Sultan Luk Galuak is still alive, because Sultan Luk was always asking him not to do so dirty job again, when he saw that is not going to work well, he planned to kill Sultan Luk Galuak, because he knows his background. In fact the man have killed Sultan Luk Galuak in Kadogli of Nubian mountain in around 1990. and ran away to re-joint SPLA again, in 1991 he came back to make a new deal with SAF with a big confidence, because his boss who knew his background have died.

      I would suggest Paulino Matip would not be an appropriate person to replace Kiir’s position place, and i suggest general James Hoth would be promoted to the chairmanship if Kiir is resigning as the law said.

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    • 17 January 2010 16:06, by lamented

      Dinka Boy, Chuanga-enoor , mikes

      You guys are all stupid. I thought Oshai was the dumbest, but now I know who are the real dumb motherfuckers.

      Message to the Sudantribune admin; your login procedure is fucked, if you need some help let me know.

      Rebels are rebels, always outlaws and do not follow the rule of law. If Salva Kiir clearly believe he was fighting for South Sudan, then he must obey the law that run south sudan. Salva Kiir do not run south sudan but represented her, so there must be respect to the supreme law of the country.

      Dinka Boy, you are the most tribalistic individual on this website. I will delete your account soon, don’t fuck around. We are southerners, not dinkas or nuer. South Sudan is big with so many different ethnic group. Dinka will not lead South Sudan, I know that, Equatorians will becuase Equatorians are the one started the opposition to the northern government, and they understand perfectly what needs to be done, not dinkas or nuer. Salva Kiir is just a dumb ass who don’t understand the law. For God sake, he is a bushmen better known as rebel, what does he know about rule of law.

      Chuanga-enoor, I have a second thought on your pattern of logic. What do you mean "you don’t know our war with this Arab", who are you referring to, the dinkas or the south sudan community as a whole. Dinkas did not fight on the war but hiding in Australia, Canada, USA, to mention few. So please, stop that nonsence or you will see what would happen, we don’t need to repeat what happen in Rwanda or Kenya. Watch your language.

      mikes, I don’t know where you get your name from, but you are fucked and retarded. Whether you like it or not, we will not allow Salva Kiir to run for presidency while holding a military position, else, I will break laws, rob banks and kill people and will expect not to be accountable for the atrocities. You dinkas and dinka supporters are very stupid and ignorant. For last 5 years, you have been bragging about leading the south sudan, but now its evident that you can not and will not, just go back to the bushes and lead your cows. I think Dinkas and Arabs should get kicked out of Sudan. They’re fucked up, majority with empty brain and incompetent mentality.

      In conclusion, salva kiir should not run for presidency because he will take south sudan backward for another five years. When we seperate south sudan, we don’t need you dinkas in the south. You have to join the arabs or fur in the north, since you have been intermarrying with them. Oh my god, dinkas are the most ignorant individuals in the world. We don’t need you guys, ugly, filthy and nasty mathafuckas....peace

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  • 17 January 2010 05:58, by Thyinka

    Kiir Can resign as an army general for the sake of election but remains commander in chief of Southern Sudan Armed forces before the election by virtue of being president of South Sudan. He would remain commander in chief if he wins the presidency of South Sudan in the upcoming election as expected.

    He can still head the military command council in his capacity as commander in chief of Armed Forces in southern Sudan. There is no hope for anyone to make a coup in Southern Sudan without being noticed by the military intelligence so there shouldn’t be much ado about nothing. This is no big deal. It is part of the game.

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    • 17 January 2010 06:20, by Raan

      My dear citizens,
      It is a shame to act contrary to the supreme law of the nation in particular when such violations are being done by the one who assent the bills to law.
      What do Salva and his thugs think they are doing when wanting to contest and at the same time hold military positions?
      The world is watching you and mind you, donot play with legal institutions of the nation....you may end up in a pit.

      NGUDENG PROPHECIES-
      Friends, this the beggining of the fulfilment of the Ngundeng prophecies and Salva will never be sworn again as the President of GOSS....Dinkas regime started to collapse

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      • 17 January 2010 06:38, by Thyinka

        Raan,
        What will you say when Salva Kiir is sworn in as the president of Southern Sudan after the April elections? You will make Ngundeng prophecies appear like those of a false prophet. Don’t throw the name of Ngundeng everywhere if you respect him as most Nuer do. The Nuer believe he is a real prophet.

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  • 17 January 2010 06:03, by joseph

    You all arguing for nothing or for the same thing. When it’s said that Salva Kiir must give up is military position, it means that he will stop being called General Salva Kiir and become Mr. Hon. Salva Kiir. He will also resign from the Chairmanship of Military Command Council.

    HE WILL STILL REMAIN THE C-IN-C OF SPLA because he is the President. He will give commands to the Army General. He will give orders and they will be obeyed. He will just be getting out of the Uniform. He will still have the authority to pick the person to lead the Army on his behalf. He will just be a civilian, just like most countries have civilian presidents. Bashir gave up his army position but he is still the C-in-C of SAF. That is what Luka Biong was trying to say but he made a mess of it and people picked it up and twisted it.

    Salva Kiir giving up his army post, uniforms and badges will not change the hierarchy in SPLA. It doesn’t mean Paulino Matip will take up Salva Kiir’s positions in SPLA. He’s not Salva Kiir’s deputy in all positions. He’s the Deputy C-in-C. Again, Salva Kiir is only becoming a civilian, at least theoretically. He’s not stopping being the C-in-C. Read the constitution. It says that they president is the C-in-C of the armed forces. But the president must be a civilian. Have you ever heard of a country where the President is not the C-in-C?

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    • 17 January 2010 06:21, by Dinka Boy

      Mr Joseph,

      You have said everything.
      Some people are arguing thinking for Riek or Matip,but that can not do anything since Salva Kiir still president and he can command anything to the army.

      For example, George W Bush order the Iraq- America war in 2003 that result in the death of Saddam Hussein.
      Those dancing need to read the role of president, it is not about wearing uniform.
      Wow!

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      • 17 January 2010 06:38, by Gatmi raan

        Dinka boy

        Shut up!!!!!!!! you don’t have clues about the American Constitution! Commander in-Chief in civilized society is not like your illitrate, incompentence, viliolates constitution at any cost type..Foolish Salva ok!! George Bush only had his signature for the order to the war, but it was only after he got the green lights for the invasion from his National Security team composes of the National security adviser, secretary of state, secretary of Defense and the Vice president of United States. but the most important principal Military adviser to the president is the Chairman of Joint chiefs of the staff composes of the all armed forces components, including Army, Marines commdant, Naval operations chief, Airforce. in case of South sudan they still have a soviet style chain of command which is backwards. so the top uniform officer in charge of the army (active) should be the one given the go head in military operations. President only signs the order.

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        • 17 January 2010 07:11, by American Missile.

          Who are you? you are nobody to Sudan since Arab sale you to American Market for slavery did not indicate you that you are something to Sudan.so, once you are a failure,you are a failure for all.

          you are tribalist guy,work for American taxs and eat.

          By American Missile.

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        • 17 January 2010 09:14, by man-of-his-words

          the only green light and most from congress,thats all.

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      • 17 January 2010 06:42, by Nile

        Dinkaboy and your likes!

        Nobody here stated Salva kiir will not be the C in C after 2011 if he will the election. No, what majority of us here are saying is that Salva Kiir should follow the law and resign from his military position. it’s also good for you and your likes to know that this isn’t about Riek Machar or Paulino Matip taking the lead, but about respecting the law and doing what other human beings have done and are still doing.

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        • 17 January 2010 06:52, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

          Anti SPLA will never get their which until they died
          Mr.Kiir will never step down for more than 12 years more
          Haaa!! Haaaa!! hhaaaa!! SPLA stil did not achieved goal to step down in Army race.

          Tone of liberators

          Nguetbuny

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      • 17 January 2010 06:55, by wang

        Dinka Boy!

        Everythings Getwech said yesterday will all be true.
        Kiir must have to handover the Millitary position to Matip without any conditional, this how the system work.

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        • 17 January 2010 07:14, by Dinka Boy

          Wang,

          Salva Kiir will president of South and still commanding the army.

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      • 17 January 2010 06:59, by American Missile.

        Those who are talking about Dinkas do not know what they are talking about instead of talking about 1st class Citizens in the Country.

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        • 17 January 2010 07:17, by Gatmi raan

          American missile

          Please dn’t abuse that name, calling yourself american missile is absurd. Americans have great respect for their constitution. unlike your illitrate Kiir who thinks Constitution is just a piece of paper but rather a living document that must be respected by the people who happens to be in position of Authority(I.e he himself). and if you happened to live in the States well, you should know better!!!!!

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      • 17 January 2010 07:30, by Angelo Ajiech Manyuat

        Dear boy & others,

        I like the way you guys deal with those idiot such as Gatwech & his likes who don’t have nerves to sense the truth. Back to the article, Lt Gen. Salva Kiir must respect the law & hang over military position to current governor Lt Gen. Kuol Manyang or Ping Deng Majok. As a matter of fact, president Kiir should take time to think smart about this tought decision or otherwise he will end up like Uganda former president Milton Obot who appointed evil man Idi Amin as ministry of Defense without making analysis first about the said general. Thus, I strongly urge GOSS not to trust those who run away when things get tought or should not be given top positions in the army in first place because our war with arab is not over yet which mean that they’ll run away again as usual.

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        • 17 January 2010 07:42, by Dinka Boy

          Angelo Manyuat,

          My brother, you said everything and i am now satisfy indeed for your analysis. Thanks man, we really know that there are hynas pro-Arab given the position that they shouldn,t deserve in their live without being struggle in the war. Traitors are not to trusted.
          Caution!

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    • 17 January 2010 07:35, by majak garang

      I think Salva should just resign from his military post if he has nothing to hide.However the guy has no respect for the law nor the constituton of the country.Or he dont know the meaning of democracy.General Election act give electral board constitution right to stop hem contesting the election.So wellcome to the civilize world and start acting like acivilize person this is not ajungle?Stop complaining arab this and arab that.

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      • 17 January 2010 07:59, by Gatmi raan

        Majak Garang

        Amen to that!!!! couldn’t have agreed more! if the guy doesn’t know or read the constitution, and then (he) should uses commonsense or we( the South Sudan) are like a plane being flown in Auto-pilot! God Get us out of this mess and Shame!!!!!

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        • 17 January 2010 08:08, by Dinka Boy

          Gatmiraan,

          It seems that you forget that Matip Nhial is the pro-Arab leader who has his own seperate soldiers in Juba and in Rank near Khartoum.

          SPLm Leaders are not so blind of that.
          Take Matip out of list other Salva Mathok, Bior Ajang, James Hoth, Kuol Manyang,and Piing Deng Majok will manage SPLA affairs.
          No cry dear.

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          • 17 January 2010 08:28, by Gatmi raan

            Dinka Boy

            Nonesense! Gen. Matip Nhial was the first to fire is gun toward Jallaba even before to those you have mentioned decided to used armed resistance against our sworn enemy(Jallaba) unless if you are born yesterday. and i will not dragged into the past. fast forward! please Gen. Matip is not your enemy. After all is a Southerner and at the end he will do what is right defend the people of Southern sudan from our sworn enemy(Jallaba)who is planning to destroyed all of us regardless of your tribe if they could.

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        • 17 January 2010 08:25, by braveheart

          Dinka boy, you are so stupid and triablistic yourself I couldn’t stop laughing at your comments when you attack mr Ambago.

          Please read what Gatwec has reposted twice if you interested in democracy, rule of law, and peace.

          Fnck you Dinka_boy

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          • 17 January 2010 08:39, by Dinka Boy

            Braveheart,

            You have to wait for the outcome because shouting loud.
            You are more stupid who was born empty and will die empty.
            Don,t you know that Paulino Matip Militia are not integerated within SPLA and who will give the post of SPLA to Militia leader who refuse for the intergration. How com Matip has all his Militia as his body guard? He will be the leader of his own and SPLA must be seperate. He/Matip must blame himself for his refusal of Army.
            Thanks parasites sucker militia

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      • 17 January 2010 08:08, by A call for unity

        What an interesting time in the History of Sudan, I think the nominatinos are fabulous and lets hope that a good combination comes out of this. We need a WISE leadership.

        With Arman running for presidency and Dr Akol heading GOSS i believe this is a perfect fit to make an actual change on the ground. Both individuals regardless of the background are good politicians who calculate their steps and have a good ability of presenting through the power of reasoning.

        The interesting part would be how the South would look at secession, if with change in the political perspectives and the introduction of actual democratic change in the Country. A united Sudan with wise leadership who actually make a change on the ground, Ending corruption and provide equal opportunities for all would revive the aspirations of a united New Sudan.

        Will Sudan set an example for Africa?

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  • 17 January 2010 08:06, by Hillary B.M.L,M

    Good move, Salver should Step down if he want to compete for Presidency post otherwise even we Southerners don’t wnat military President which at any time could apply Dictatorship System, we know who is he, he is already a........

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    • 17 January 2010 08:12, by thokpiny de Deng de Thokpiny

      Since when is the millitary leader in the SOuth bad ?
      if not the burrel of the gun i believe no one could have seen what is called pound or so

      let the man keep in

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      • 17 January 2010 08:53, by Chuanga-enoor.

        We as SPLA soldiers will not accept all the negative comments made against Salva Kiir on this website because you civillians have narrow minded, you don’t know our war with this Arab whom you support will be of everlasting if you don’t mind the goodness of our South Sudan in the future and this goodness will come via Salva Kiir at the movement we are now in.

        Salva kiir will not step down in the millitary as long as you civillian don’t know the tricks made you are pulling the trigger against the people of Sudan we don’t give a shit Salva will step down when we achieved our full independence to join civil life. We don’t believe in tricks made by Albashir with his supporters the Nec.

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        • 17 January 2010 09:53, by emilio-Wau

          Chuanga-enoor.

          Do not think that it is only SPLA who is struggling to bring south sudan to independent.You have completly forgotten what you spla soldiers did to innocent civiliana in south sudan.civilian are not fogetting what you did to tham and without civilians where would you get food to keep you fighting for 21 years.You need also to understand that time for SPLA has gone and it is time for civilians to fight through votes.Remain few time or days for SPLA to shut up or starting looting again.If you SPLA had a clear vision for south sudan,follow consttution or otherwise splm-dc will take over soon.believe me in two bays you will not be commenting on this net.Time for Kiir to make wise decision for the seek of southerners.

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  • 17 January 2010 10:15, by Critic_Ngueny

    Dear barking dogs,

    I am backed; ready to fight for the right and dignity of my warriors or freedom fighters, Dinkas wherever they are.Logic and Kim most be careful otherwise.

    Critic_Ngueny from Bor town

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    • 17 January 2010 10:42, by emilio-Wau

      Critic_Ngueny

      Being in Bor or Dinka does not qualify you to support Dinkas.that will never take south sudan any where and you will be a great loosers in south sudan.you people created enemies with all your neighbours where will you get rested if you are tired?

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    • 17 January 2010 16:07, by Bol Ringdit

      Hear yourself talking…how ugly your words are?

      To those whom always jump and attack the president of the Southern Sudan because he is Dinka as well as who attack other individual people. To all people who wish Kiir to step down as an army commander in chief for being one of Dinka of Gogrial, take notice of my words.

      First of all, it is extremely embarrassing to see the same people of the south saying thing they don’t ever mention to their enemy. Well, it is very sadly for us to use these awkward languages and childish behavior that I see when reading these stupid horrible commons ever posted through the world most brilliance network of the 21st century. I am sorry to tell you all this, that what you have approved today is that the South are 99% non- civilize nations.
      Particularly, I can’t believe some of us hate our president to that point. I don’t even aspect also to read someone calling Nyendeng the widow of our late Dr. Garang the” B word”. No one can’t say that to woman who lost her husband in favor of freedom struggling to his own people, even if you really do hate her to that ugly thought nor a northerner will ever say that to her. The guy some of you hate to death; Salva Kiir is the greatest president we all southern ever have. All what you see corruption, insecurity and so on, always are difficulties every new governing system face at the beginning. Not to mention Kiirs’ manner steps of applying an effective model of true democracy in southern Sudan. He appointed some people who don’t fit to be enjoying SPLA/M credit of governorship at this moment. He did more than any leader of a half-civilize nation dose. There still people with bushy life style among us who don’t know even there is a government to handle all cases.

      It is clear that the Interim Constitution of Southern Sudan is deferent than that of the whole Sudan which require AL- Bashir to step down as an army commander to qualify candidate for the presidency sit of the Sudan in chief, not Kiir. In contrast, Kiir in south has an option to keep his position; that mean no need for him to step down as a commander in chief of the South army (GooS army or SPLA) even if he did it will not have an impact.

      It says that during the interim period the president of Southern Sudan does not need to step down as an army commander in chief in order to run for election in the South only. That why Kiir didn’t decide to run for the Sudan presidency sits. Thus, SPLM nominates Yasir Arman to contest for that position in the national election. And believe me people; Kiir is going to be appointed as president of GooS again; why because we don’t need new stricture at this time. Secondly yes the CPA grant that their shall be election in south , but SPLA/M as the only power who promised to lead Southern Sudan to the referendum period 2011, decide to keep thing as it is today. Then after that whoever want to run for the presidency sit such Dr. Reiak or Dr. Lam will have a room, not by forcing SPLA/M to do what Arabs of the north want to happen right now so they can prove us wrong that we just want to hold high position such as president not because we have a problem. It also approve that we don’t like each other, like some of us willing to create war because Kiir is the president for just being belonging to individual groups. Our president always will be someone from certain ethnic group; there is no way to have someone to be belong to no group, and essentially he or she always have some mistake and some benefits.

      If you become interesting in that matter that Khartoum sent a letter asking Kiir to step down as an army in chief, this is just an assessment to us to see what we will do and how we will handle and react at this. May some of us willing to rebel and turn to fight, it could be a challenge to the South like 1990th but the arm force of the GooS will control the situation easily. Don’t just says things that don’t exist in the Interim Constitution of the GooS, this is call abetting people to violence and hostility and you can be charge for that.

      Let’s talk about insecurity, yes there are many outlaw groups who attack civilians everywhere in Southern Sudan. Kiir administration is aware of that, but because is being supported by the enemy of the South, they are so precise to keep it down when taken it as serious considerations. No doubt some are Southerner children, GooS is not taking any positive action against this violence and criminals today. Perhaps, they just are trying to deal with it normally so that it wills not appear distracting people from our aim. Indeed, responding to any violence activity military these days is not in our interest, so that SPLM are more associated to prevent such things in places where it’s easy to be control by government without increasing it.

      In such aggression, please don’t be haters and violence’s recruiters, our freedom not yet in our hands. Secondly, when did we have the government of the South; yes just few days ago that are like a tiny dot to 22 years of war. It is only SPLA/M who is a power in South. Let’s wait till we have our own independent government as new sates not autonomy government. if you endorsing someone to become a president of the South, wait later on, and vote for him after January 2011 I mean after the next election after this coming one because SPLM and Kiir Administration will not make another build up system as long as we still un-independent’s nation.

      Actually, Kiir will win the election automatically because there will be no contester to him which is superior to all of us. We do so for what we all believe that this is not a right time for us to fight over presidency sit. If someone willing to challenge Kiir right now than he/ she must have another objection deferent from our main goal which is independence of the South that why you see others Southern party not nominating their candidates for that south election. Truly we don’t need to contest for it right now because we have biggest duty than that to do which we all shall move to south and work with Kiir even if you don’t like him. For those whose are Southerners still in the northern Sudan and working against the South, you are not welcome in our community. Don’t be irritated for the wrong doing or failure of this administration, Kiir will leave this office one day if that what is your problem. If you concern about someone background, believe me there will be many Dinka man and women to occupy this position as well as others. This is not a problem at all, because when you vote for someone you agree to accept both conditions losing and winning at the same time. It does not matter Who ever win the election, your body or the other side person deal with it an act normal. Don’t be angry and talk foolish when something goes wrong, there is no right without mistake. We learn from our past, what have gone wrong in the past shouldn’t occur again.

      Southern Sudan people, we still didn’t gain what we long for, which is the freedom. Why are we battling each other for the fish still in the river I didn’t even seen this during the 22 years of fighting with the north. Where was these warm-up and stupid brave? Instead of condemning what the north and it militias have done to us days ago, some of us sing it like a nice song. I don’t believe what I read in this site; some of us are even happy for what happened to women and children of Bahr-AL-gazal for that were been holed as slave in their own country. This is inhumanity to slave women and children of your own country and the worst thing is to maintain laughing at that today. When you talk or write something and then you indicate or mark ethnic groups blaming them for what you think is done wrongly by one person, you be really last intelligent than the worm and insects. Please people grow up and discuses like an adult not like a child. If not, there will be no chance for each one of us to post any common in this website anymore. I wish to see a change in that matter or we will not have this opportunity to share our thought.

      I aspirate you all to take a positive action and act friendly. So we will continue have this chance of sharing each one point of view. The goal was to give you a source in which you participate to point out what will build strong south not what would destroy it. It always has been your choice to make way better for your own self assisting.
      By Bol

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  • 17 January 2010 10:49, by J.James

    Hi GUY

    James James is back but he wanted all those tribalists to stop taking southerners backward.

    Arabs must be defeated.

    However, Kiir need to resign from military leadership peacfully.

    GOD BLESS

    The writer is always peace a ctivist.

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    • 17 January 2010 11:47, by mikes

      Please gugs we southern sudan don’t want Salva Kiir to Resigned as we are in critical situation now,that planning is wrong which is being made by our enemy in khartoum, we don’t considered it.And we know that Dr. Riek machar and Lam Akol are behind that planning as They are looking for the way the will make coup against Salva Kirr, but the only thing that they want is to sale southern sudan to an Arab.I hope The southern sudan government will never be agreeing on that complain by our enemies of the south,we are south sudan we are not indenpendence to carry it out thoes complains from our enemy now it may be after 2011.It will never happened south isn’t under north sudan, it has it government....

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      • 17 January 2010 12:43, by Gatwech

        While the law clearly spells out that Kiir should resign first from the military positions, and here you are foolishly blaming Dr. Riek and Dr. Lam for the existence of the law. Idiot!

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  • 17 January 2010 12:34, by Gatwech

    Dear readers,

    There is no reason and time for incompentent Salva Kiir’s fans to cry over the spilled milk. They should abide by the law or risk being considered outlaws and an obstacle to democratic transformation in the country and in the South in particular.

    First, these fans should note the inevitables: 1) General Salvatore Kiir Miyerdit must strip himself of any military uniform, title and detach himself from the army (I think you know what I mean)if he will ever have to run for elections.

    2) He must resign from being the head of the SPLA Command Council and hand over the position to General Paulino Matip with immediate effect. It is Matip that will be calling for the Council’s meeting and chairing it. Kiir will only get the military report from Gen. Matip in the same way he gets parliamentary reports from Speaker James Wani Igga or judiciary reports from the Chief Justice of South Sudan Supreme Court.

    These are very clear requirements. And if the law says DURING the elections he should not act as the Commander-in-Chief of the SPLA, then the Vice President Dr. Riek Machar should act as the Commander-in-Chief of the SPLA until Kiir wins the elections (ooops!), swears in and then resumes the responsibility as Commander-in-Chief of the SPLA.

    But even if he wins the elections (ooops!) he cannot resume heading the SPLA Command Council because that is purely an independent military institution like the parliament, Council of Ministers or Judicial Council. James Wani Igga chairs the Assembly sittings and Chief Justice chairs Judiciary Council’s meetings. Salva Kiir will only continue to chair Council of Ministers meetings. Do you see the implications folks? There is a long hefty way for the Gogrial chief.

    Now to add the fuel to the already burning fire, reports from Juba indicate that the Gogrial Chief (Kiir) has refused the (semi) democratic process of candidates by electoral colleges in states. He has thrown out the criteria of selection from all states at the Political Bureau meetings currently in Juba. Kiir is now re-appointing as electoral candidates those whose names were dropped in the selection process at the ten states levels by the Electoral Colleges and did not even come to the Political Bureau. He is removing many of the names brought by the Electoral Colleges and putting unknown names in there. He has resorted to friendship and personal loyalty to him instead of to the party (SPLM) and popularity at the grass roots.

    These latest madness and dictatorial mess up at real display will stir up anger across the South. NEC is expected to receive tens of thousands of appeal letters against Kiir’s nomination based on his incompetence and against his handpicked choices disregarding the criteria. This again is a clear violation of the constitutional electoral process set by NEC and will haunt Kiir’s candidacy. More issues are coming soon....

    But how did these bad things happen in the first place?

    I told you yesterday that the so-called SPLM political bureau is mostly composed of a bunch of handpicked political idiots who do not see things beyond their short noses. They would have studied the implications of the law before they blindly rushed to the nomination of an incompetent military man, 1st Lt. General Salva Kiir Mayardit, head of the SPLA Command Council and Commander-in-Chief of the SPLA.

    Both Interim Constitutions of Sudan and of Southern Sudan clearly reject any member of the army to stand for political posts DURING the elections. Unfortunately some of these SPLM political idiots think that what they think and wish is what matters most than what the law says. IDIOTS!

    The same electoral law which requires that Salva Kiir resigns from military was jointly negotiated by the SPLM and NCP, passed in the National Assembly jointly by the two parties and signed into law by President Al-Bashir in front of Salva Kiir. And today Dr. Luka Biong Deng wants to deny the constitutional requirement simply because he wishes his boss to remain in military? Wow…

    The NEC has already ruled its decision in advance. Salva Kiir will have to handover his military position to his next man in the chain of command and that is 1st Lt. General Paulino Matip Nhial. Failure to do so Salva Kiir will not be allowed to run for the presidential elections in South Sudan or even for the seat in his constituency. And if he instead hands over the military position to another handpicked officer, that will be a disaster in the army because he will be violating the army chain of command unless he first dismisses 1st Lt. General Paulino Matip from the army. And the implication is that dismissing General Paulino with the clear intention to bring his kin to replace him in this situation is very risky because that will not be respected. It will have no legal and procedural basis and will simply be treated as a tribal conspiracy outside the law. And that will be the violation of the Juba Declaration, 2006.

    Again, Salva Kiir still has a long list of other legal challenges waiting for him after this army saga. One of them is the case of Dr. Lam Akol’s registered political party which General Kiir dictatorially said would not run for the elections in the South. The Constitutional Court in Khartoum rejected Kiir’s decision describing it as unconstitutional and ordered Kiir to reverse it by allowing Dr. Lam Akol’s party to operate actively in the South without any intimidations or harassments. Kiir has been ignoring the ruling of the Court.

    Kiir is needed to reverse his decision; otherwise the Constitutional Court will charge him for violating the constitution which is the supreme law of the land that of course brought Kiir himself as First Vice President and President of the South. There are other legal cases as well…

    And if he luckily clears himself toothless and clean by cooperating with whatever the NEC tells him to do according to the law, then finally he will face the ‘NO FOR SALVA KIIR’s’ voting power of the people of South Sudan in April 2010. He will definitely lose the elections.

    And if Salvatore Kiir Miyerdit resorts to dictatorship that would be the ‘whistle blowing’ many people are waiting to see. He will find himself in a bottomless pit, locally, regionally and internationally. Every body will shout at him; the people, the army, the government, the AU, the UN Security Council and the wider international community. He will be isolated by all these bodies and treated as violator of the law and therefore a dictator and criminal. This will invite internal chaos with Salva Kiir losing out!!!

    The people of South Sudan are not ready to experience another five years of incompetence, corruption, tribalism, insecurity, visionless, lack of development (service delivery), lack of political direction, land grabbing, and the list is long.

    Salvatore Kiir Miyerdit will NEVER be sworn in as the next and first ELECTED president of South Sudan because he doesn’t deserve it.

    Mark my WORDS!

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    • 17 January 2010 16:12, by Bol Ringdit

      Hear yourself talking… how ugly your words are?

      To those whom always jump and attack the president of the Southern Sudan because he is Dinka as well as who attack other individual people. To all people who wish Kiir to step down as an army commander in chief for being one of Dinka of Gogrial, take notice of my words.

      First of all, it is extremely embarrassing to see the same people of the south saying thing they don’t ever mention to their enemy. Well, it is very sadly for us to use these awkward languages and childish behavior that I see when reading these stupid horrible commons ever posted through the world most brilliance network of the 21st century. I am sorry to tell you all this, that what you have approved today is that the South are 99% non- civilize nations.
      Particularly, I can’t believe some of us hate our president to that point. I don’t even aspect also to read someone calling Nyendeng the widow of our late Dr. Garang the” B word”. No one can’t say that to woman who lost her husband in favor of freedom struggling to his own people, even if you really do hate her to that ugly thought nor a northerner will ever say that to her. The guy some of you hate to death; Salva Kiir is the greatest president we all southern ever have. All what you see corruption, insecurity and so on, always are difficulties every new governing system face at the beginning. Not to mention Kiirs’ manner steps of applying an effective model of true democracy in southern Sudan. He appointed some people who don’t fit to be enjoying SPLA/M credit of governorship at this moment. He did more than any leader of a half-civilize nation dose. There still people with bushy life style among us who don’t know even there is a government to handle all cases.
      It is clear that the Interim Constitution of Southern Sudan is deferent than that of the whole Sudan which require AL- Bashir to step down as an army commander to be a qualify candidate for the presidency sit of the Sudan in chief, not Kiir. In contrast, Kiir in south has an option to keep his position; that mean no need for him to step down as a commander in chief of the South army (GooS army or SPLA) even if he did it will not have an impact.

      It says that during the interim period the president of Southern Sudan does not need to step down as an army commander in chief in order to run for election in the South only. That why Kiir didn’t decide to run for the Sudan presidency sits. Thus, SPLM nominates Yasir Arman to contest for that position in the national election. And believe me people; Kiir is going to be appointed as president of GooS again; why because we don’t need new stricture at this time. Secondly yes the CPA grant that their shall be election in south , but SPLA/M as the only power who promised to lead Southern Sudan to the referendum period 2011, decide to keep thing as it is today. Then after that whoever want to run for the presidency sit such Dr. Reiak or Dr. Lam will have a room, not by forcing SPLA/M to do what Arabs of the north want to happen right now so they can prove us wrong that we just want to hold high position such as president not because we have a problem. It also approve that we don’t like each other, like some of us willing to create war because Kiir is the president for just being belonging to individual groups. Our president always will be someone from certain ethnic group; there is no way to have someone to be belong to no group, and essentially he or she always have some mistake and some benefits.

      If you become interesting in that matter that Khartoum sent a letter asking Kiir to step down as an army in chief, this is just an assessment to us to see what we will do and how we will handle and react at this. May some of us willing to rebel and turn to fight, it could be a challenge to the South like 1990th but the arm force of the GooS will control the situation easily. Don’t just says things that don’t exist in the Interim Constitution of the GooS, this is call abetting people to violence and hostility and you can be charge for that.

      Let’s talk about insecurity, yes there are many outlaw groups who attack civilians everywhere in Southern Sudan. Kiir administration is aware of that, but because is being supported by the enemy of the South, they are so precise to keep it down when taken it as serious considerations. No doubt some are Southerner children, GooS is not taking any positive action against this violence and criminals today. Perhaps, they just are trying to deal with it normally so that it wills not appear distracting people from our aim. Indeed, responding to any violence activity military these days is not in our interest, so that SPLM are more associated to prevent such things in places where it’s easy to be control by government without increasing it.
      In such aggression, please don’t be haters and violence’s recruiters, our freedom not yet in our hands. Secondly, when did we have the government of the South; yes just few days ago that are like a tiny dot to 22 years of war. It is only SPLA/M who is a power in South. Let’s wait till we have our own independent government as new sates not autonomy government. if you endorsing someone to become a president of the South, wait later on, and vote for him after January 2011 I mean after the next election after this coming one because SPLM and Kiir Administration will not make another build up system as long as we still un-independent’s nation.

      Actually, Kiir will win the election automatically because there will be no contester to him which is superior to all of us. We do so for what we all believe that this is not a right time for us to fight over presidency sit. If someone willing to challenge Kiir right now than he/ she must have another objection deferent from our main goal which is independence of the South that why you see others Southern party not nominating their candidates for that south election. Truly we don’t need to contest for it right now because we have biggest duty than that to do which we all shall move to south and work with Kiir even if you don’t like him. For those whose are Southerners still in the northern Sudan and working against the South, you are not welcome in our community. Don’t be irritated for the wrong doing or failure of this administration, Kiir will leave this office one day if that what is your problem. If you concern about someone background, believe me there will be many Dinka man and women to occupy this position as well as others. This is not a problem at all, because when you vote for someone you agree to accept both conditions losing and winning at the same time. It does not matter Who ever win the election, your body or the other side person deal with it an act normal. Don’t be angry and talk foolish when something goes wrong, there is no right without mistake. We learn from our past, what have gone wrong in the past shouldn’t occur again.

      Southern Sudan people, we still didn’t gain what we long for, which is the freedom. Why are we battling each other for the fish still in the river I didn’t even seen this during the 22 years of fighting with the north. Where was these warm-up and stupid brave? Instead of condemning what the north and it militias have done to us days ago, some of us sing it like a nice song. I don’t believe what I read in this site; some of us are even happy for what happened to women and children of Bahr-AL-gazal for that were been holed as slave in their own country. This is inhumanity to slave women and children of your own country and the worst thing is to maintain laughing at that today. When you talk or write something and then you indicate or mark ethnic groups blaming them for what you think is done wrongly by one person, you be really last intelligent than the worm and insects. Please people grow up and discuses like an adult not like a child. If not, there will be no chance for each one of us to post any common in this website anymore. I wish to see a change in that matter or we will not have this opportunity to share our thought.

      I aspirate you all to take a positive action and act friendly. So we will continue have this chance of sharing each one point of view. The goal was to give you a source in which you participate to point out what will build strong south not what would destroy it. It always has been your choice to make way better for your own self assisting.
      By Bol

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    • 17 January 2010 16:55, by Bol Ringdit

      To Gatwech and Others

      Could you all be more moral than you are just attacking a person without detraining his goodness and don’t call names. This not for you alone is for anyone who does not site and respect the privacy of the network. It is because you are the more likely of most people to reveal their own unfavorable thought.

      Without sating or prove a quote to your own work that’s a crime.

      This is to you and others, who behave as child and post rubbish and horrible commons will be prevent from using this site for ever; to use this site, maintain well respectful t argument. Again try to understand that we all meant here to build the South not to destroy it. You talking about interim constitution saying that its says and says. Do you know that lying in behave of federal declarations documents is a crime.

      If anyone think no one knowing where he/she at that’s wrong body, because I very sure that if you all aware of that there are eyes on you, no one would post unaccountably.

      Thanks Time 1 for your normal and common sense

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      • 17 January 2010 20:29, by Kon Ajith Deng

        Remain only four months for your Dog to go home,no one favoring dinka to be a president of south Sudan again,corruption and tribalism are their culture,there are suppose to be erased from the governorship in the South.

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  • 17 January 2010 13:56, by Time1

    NEC is just a pro NCP body, what is Abel Alier doing in this NEC, why does abel alier really think he was appointed to the NEC? because somebody else would hav en apoined to that position, NEC should examine omer bashirs war crimes convictions otherwise salva kirr will also not quit the army and there should be no elections if nessecary because NEC is a pro NCP organization ather than a national body.

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    • 17 January 2010 15:33, by tuffman

      Salva Kiir OYEEEEEEEEEE SPLA/M OYEEEEEEEEEE.

      No change our man, No change our man, No change our man
      Nothing will change our mind from choosing our man salva kiir to be our southerner president or commander in chief no change.

      NO CHANGE HE IS OUR MAN!!.
      SALVA GOD WILL BE WITH YOU ALWAYS.

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      • 17 January 2010 16:50, by Mr.Makuach bergoa

        Hi tuffan

        It,s good that you mention God on your words to bless Kiir to come back again as a president of south sudan. But it,s too late, because Kiir tried alot to divide and creates a hatred amongst the south sudanese for five years.examples;

        1. leting has kins to stole the south sudanese funds

        2. isolation of all south sudanese tribes at Ministerials posts and gives the majority posts to Dinka Minority compared to all others tribes in the south.

        3. violation of the constitution of south sudan

        4. increaging some Governors and army generals to invents ethnics tention and possible fight again theirs communities.

        this alarms are on process, please be aware salva Kiir now become sick in stance to lost part of south to get power again.
        But he hasn,t caculate the feedback carefully to be the winner at last, although he is using all technical aide, these tactics only will results between south sudanese people to lost humanities.

        not elections!

        Thankyou

        Mr.Makuach Bergoa

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  • 17 January 2010 17:39, by Khent

    Salva Kirr should seriously relinquish the position of Commander-in-Chief to either Lt. Gen. Nhial Deng Nhial, or to Lt. Gen. Bior Ajang.

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    • 17 January 2010 18:34, by peter pal

      Khent

      Wait a little bit about the action which will happen.
      Leaving Lt. Gen. Matip will cause unresolved problem which will mark the downfall of Dinkas regime

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      • 17 January 2010 20:20, by SPLA

        Paulino Matip is a primitive, he can not handle that post. Most importantly, he is a militia and pro-Khartoum government.

        SPLA

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  • 17 January 2010 21:13, by Time1

    Salva Kirr has been confirmed as already retired from army since 2005, he is currently only cmmander in chief because he is the president, so he is not in the Army now. This pro NCP NEC is only rushing after Kirr without checking or understanding his statues, he already had retired, so this case is now closed for those who do not know.

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    • 14 January 2010 09:51, by Gatwech

      And if he retired since 2005, then how come he still wears military uniform and title of his rank? Don’t lie to the nation and the world using such primitive arguments. Other people are not idiots like you.

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