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January 3, 2010 (KHARTOUM) – The Sudanese presidential adviser Ghazi Salah Al-Deen Al-Attabani and the leader of the National Congress parliamentary bloc criticized a portion of the referendum law adopted in the national assembly last month saying it contains a ‘recipe of war’ in it.

Al-Attabani in an interview with the Khartoum based Blue Nile TV on Sunday described article (67) of the law which refers to post-referendum arrangements as the “most sensitive” clause saying that it lacks a specific timeframe to agree on issues including demarcation of borders, nationality, the Nile Waters Agreement and other issues.

He said that failure to resolve these issues prior to the referendum particularly demarcating the borders would lead to a war similar to what happened between Eritrea and Ethiopia and what happened in Pakistan.

The Sudanese official also disclosed for the first time that the NCP struck a deal with the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) on the passage of the democratic transformation laws comprised of the National Security law, trade unions law, in return for the passage of the referendum laws for the South and Abyei and the Popular Consultation Law for the South Kordofan and the Blue Nile.

After a series of retaliatory measures by SPLM including giving its MP’s boycotting the parliament and leading two demonstrations last month in the Sudanese capital, the NCP conducted marathonic talks to bridge differences on the referendum law among other bills.

The NCP bloc attempted to introduce changes to the original text of the law that angered the ex-Southern rebel group leading to its MP’s walking out during the voting session. The NCP utilized its simple majority to endorse the law.

However, the NCP later changed hearts and agreed to send the bill back to the parliament to remove the amendment following criticism from the US administration and the EU.

Some observers have speculated at the time that the SPLM abandoned the demands of other Northern opposition parties, which joined hands with the ex-rebel group in last month’s demonstrations, particularly on the National Security law in return for the referendum law.

The SPLM voted against the law and its chairman Salva Kiir vowed not to sign it urging Sudanese president Omer Hassan Al-Bashir to follow course.

Al-Attabani voiced doubts about the meaning of a partnership with a “secessionist movement that does not even recognize Sudan’s independence”. He said the SPLM is proposing the New Sudan project which he described as an incriminating proposal because it “criminalizes the history of Sudan and does not even recognize its independence”.

The NCP official also accused the SPLM of failure because of lack of clarity in putting forward the New Sudan project adding that this is also due to the paralysis of its political will.

He also referred to the Juba conference held last September under the auspices of the SPLM which included Northern opposition parties saying that it lost its moral legitimacy and was effectively a venue to put the NCP on trial.

Furthermore, the Sudanese presidential adviser claimed that they have information that the SPLM is funding opposition parties in the north to stir demonstrations and protests.

“The SPLM talks about attractive unity yet seeks independence then speaks of democratic transformation but does not apply it in the South” Al-Attabani said.

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  • 5 January 2010 04:50, by Greater Equatoria

    People it’s clear that war is eminent after the referendum.Today I have heard for the second time the NCP is the one beating the drums of war as if they are not tired of war.If you want another war let me warn you the South is ever ready and this will lead to the end of the so called Arabs of Sudan. NCP knows the problems but they refuse to table them,eg.how shall the oil and drilling machines be shared,the boundary,but they kept quite in presence. The NCP want wait until when the South vote for independence then they will cut off the oil revenue and all the wealth that both the NCP and the SPLM is currently sharing,just purposely to ignite another war.The South knows your ill plans,but you are going loose whether you like it or not.

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    • 5 January 2010 05:11, by John chol Garang

      NCP’s leaders must study their foundation of success before they resort to politics of war at this particular this timeframe.

      On personal analysis, i do not think this weaken party(NCP) could attempt such naive strategy this time.

      NCP is contained both militarily and politically by SPLM.

      Therefore, Stories relating to politics of war are as old as the garden of Eden to the ears of SPLM’s leaders.

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      • 5 January 2010 06:39, by Gatwech

        Dear readers,

        Well, this Turkish man, calling himself Sudanese and holding such sensitive Sudanese post is just beating the drums of war again in Sudan. He represents a bad group within the NCP camp. His complaints do not make sense at all because post-referendum issues are taken care of in the referendum law. He can discuss them with the South any time even after the South separates from the North.

        Let me try to examine briefly some of his utterances below in quotes:

        “He said that failure to resolve these issues prior to the referendum particularly demarcating the borders would lead to a war similar to what happened between Eritrea and Ethiopia and what happened in Pakistan.”

        Well Mr. Advisor, if you want the North-South border demarcated soon, just advise Al-Bashir to give political guidance to his NCP team working on the demarcation process. There is a committee working on that and who should have actually completed demarcations since last year if it was not because of your party’s delaying tactics. The issue was not supposed to be resolved by the referendum law, but by the demarcation committee. Got that!

        “Some observers have speculated at the time that the SPLM abandoned the demands of other Northern opposition parties, which joined hands with the ex-rebel group in last month’s demonstrations, particularly on the National Security law in return for the referendum law.”

        Yeah, and that is true because the SPLM wise men found out that the so-called Northern opposition parties were using them to destroy self-determination. I can see that you, Mr. Advisor, is sympathizing with the opposition.

        “The NCP official also accused the SPLM of failure because of lack of clarity in putting forward the New Sudan project adding that this is also due to the paralysis of its political will.”

        Well, the SPLM does not any more believe in the so-called New Sudan. The people of South Sudan do not want the so-called New Sudan. What we want is independent South Sudan. This project of New Sudan at the expense of the South is dead. We don’t need it. “North is too deformed to be reformed.” Every body has realized that and joined the noble right of self-determination toward independence.

        “The SPLM talks about attractive unity yet seeks independence then speaks of democratic transformation but does not apply it in the South” Al-Attabani said.

        Yes, Mr. Advisor, that is politics. We can talk of making unity attractive but seek independence. CPA has told us to talk about making unity attractive but not really making it attractive. We don’t even want to make it attractive, but rather unattractive! Even NCP is not making unity of Sudan attractive, so why making noises about SPLM?

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        • 5 January 2010 07:36, by Greater Equatoria

          Gatwech,play politics.Do not tell them so clearly like that.The NCP has been playing politics with the South for so long,thinking that the South didn’t know yet they know.Let them think and change...I mean the must stop threatening SPLM because of its antinops made from Russia that they obtained because of Southern Sudan’s petroleum!!

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      • 5 January 2010 10:15, by Wad Burri

        Unfortunately your statement is incorrect. The NCP’s leaders have already studied their foundation of success long before they took over power in 89. Killing, torturing, looting and above all dividing Sudanese people. In the meanwhile, we keep on talking emotions, crying and wailing. The most assertive of us are doing the same games of the NCP on their own people. It is a catastrophe when history keeps on repeating itself.

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    • 5 January 2010 06:00, by Mr. Awan Awan

      Mr. Ghazi Salah Al-Deen Al-Attabani needs to correct his false statement before it spreads out; otherwise he will pay a heavy price on its outcome. The article 67 that has a lot of cavities as he mentioned may not harm southern Sudan alone at that time. South will not start the war, but it will not tolerates any aggressions from north. We southerners wants south to be one of peaceful states in the world but if north begins any activities, south will respond immediatly. Bare in mind that no room for intimidation Mr Ghazi. Thanks

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    • 5 January 2010 13:17, by actiongatkuoth

      hi
      as you see from ncp foriegn man he is tryiong to declear awar againt b/n south and north.
      it is better for you southern sudan citizen to unite your self in order to over come arab in the north
      please becare ful and be strong

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    • 5 January 2010 13:28, by Akuei

      Dear all,

      Firstly, I’m very happy and so proud to hear my Southern Sudanese with one Voice toward NIF/NCP. Besides, no animal including human being can die without kicking. So, do not blame Khartoum regime of Omer Bashir. What they are doing is the kick of a dying horse.

      I also appreciate our brother Famous_Big_Logic’s resolution of year, 2010. He is right, that there is time for a joke and time reality.

      Let’s keep it up brothers.
      Independence South Sudan Oyee.
      Government of South Sudan Oyee

      Akuei Akuei

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  • 5 January 2010 04:53, by D D M

    Ghazi,go to hell

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    • 5 January 2010 05:20, by Mel Deng

      Well, we heard your concern but remember to save Khartoum from becoming the center of war this time. Referendum law has nothing to do with party interests but people lives. since NCP figures, Ghazi from Turket, luring for war, the war will be destructive to Khartoum, under regime change title, in eye of the western world.

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  • 5 January 2010 04:58, by murlescrewed

    Dr. Ghazi is actually right. Whether people like it or not, there is going to be a war between North and South and this one will be very difficult to settle. No negotiations will work until one side is defeated and willing to give in to the demands of the other side. From what I know, South will lose badly if the war starts early on after the independence and this is likely to be the case.

    Unfortunately, we have idiots just shouting independence but are not prepared for what is coming. This political opportunists betrayed South during the war and are likely to betray South again should war starts so that they can trade border region for political ascendancy. This is the tragic future that South faces.

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    • 5 January 2010 05:14, by Wiyual

      murlescrewd,

      Now you see the real enemy declaring the war against us, could we please unite as Southern and just look to the main issues awaiting us.

      Thanks,

      Wiyual

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      • 5 January 2010 08:17, by Gatwech

        Wiyual,

        Thank you for the wise advice you have given to Murle Screwed. You see his contradictions. He is crying about the coming war and at the same time working hard to divide the South again. What a mind!

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        • 5 January 2010 09:01, by murlescrewed

          Gatwech,

          Malle jina thin?

          Let’s get something straight. I am not crying about the coming war. I know for a fact that there is going to be war between North and South. It is not a matter of if but a matter of time. And I am not afraid to pick up my PKM and joining the front line. I am not trying to divide people. I believe that Nuer people are good-hearted people. However, they allow themselves to be driven by emotions and not rational thinking. That is why their leaders tend to influence the community so easily.

          Wiyual is an example of a fair-minded Nuer who is eager to reach the middle and not extreme like you or myself.

          You have been trying as hard as you can to convince people here that Riek is the father of self-determination or that he convince the jallabah regime to accept it. That is a false assertion and you are not dropping the idea. No one is buying and that is one thing that I will never let rest until you correct yourself. In the name of South, we must be convinced that there is no way Riek could have convinced the jellabah regime. He had no means to enforce this fact.

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          • 5 January 2010 14:34, by M.Cool.J

            Your standpoint is clear Mr.Gatwec you want to say Riak has no say in the self-determination as being said by ma ny people.

            But every southerner who saw the way we were treated by jallaba has to preach self-determination.Many dinka say that Riak is the one brinnging these mess,but not all.

            Kii himself is confused and not ready for the upcoming general elections because he fears he will fail the elections so he wants to sustain his position as the president of the south.

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    • 5 January 2010 13:12, by biarawieu

      al-attabani is not meaning what he has said, because the arab people from north are stress of south to be independence and that why many countries from the arab world are not happy for example Eypyt and Libya and many others countries. but if they meaning what he said than nothing will happen at all.

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  • 5 January 2010 04:58, by The Best Generation

    Thats it. You will cry and cry but no body will hear you. Because you done enough atrocoties to the citizens of this country no exception. Just wait for the day when our votes cast you out so that the Historic Movement manage its benefitsequally to all the sudanese community.And the Southernewrs will rule the two countries with fairness and truth.

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    • 5 January 2010 05:36, by Mel Deng

      If this Cpa is obstructed, the propose war would be lose because salva historical weakness in bushes and opportunists scandals in GOSS govt; however, things would be able to return to normal when Red Seeds return for the Struggle. Equatorians amd Great Arabs Sugar ants, the Nuers, would return to their normal hide out logs.

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      • 5 January 2010 08:21, by Gatwech

        Mel Deng,

        Why don’t you wait and see. What I know is that some big people you may know are preparing to run to Kenya and Uganda again. Instead of running towards the North at the border, they will run South wards to East Africa.

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  • 5 January 2010 05:00, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

    I will describe that as a poor translation of the message. Ghazi has an intention of causing panic to NCP in order to create some confusion about the referendum law. The law was not created on one day and sign immediately, the process has been through many steps before the last minute. why did he keep silent during the entire process up to this date before he come with such garbage? I told you that arabs prefer war much better than peaceful negotiation. We have had lots of hints right from Abeyi border and arrest of SPLA protesters which can be describe as a crack down of SPLA activities in khartoum.

    However I warn them that we have lost lots of lives and the time for democracy has come, its time to fight in the parliament not in the bush. We can now use votes as our bullets to find who wins and who lose. No more waste of money and resources that could be used to feed with people or make development to buy with weapons. It is bad to bring destruction, Just add what you waste on weapons and what you are going to use for rehabilation, where would your country be and what would it look like if all the money could be use for construction?

    New Year Message

    Time for tribalism has gone, 2010 is not a time to generalise tribe or community instead of one person. It is time to focus on the real issue far from tribal criticism, political party criticism, leaders criticism, and very far from abuses or insults. We should also debate far from abuses of any single commenter on ST forum, to myself I want to be a man of tolerance, peace, responsbility, respect, forgiveness, love, unity and courage . It is time to get serious and work for the betterment of my nation South Sudan (New name). I didn’t change myself because of pressure or whatsoever, it could be my 2010 resolution. For now lets start new year with fresh mind and positive ideas that will improvement the managment of South Sudan, childish comments must be ignored. Some individual comment aggressively when they are defeated in debate, this spirit must be abandon. We are here to play a game ie you get defeated or you defeat others defends on the article and the extend of your debate, but don’t insult people. This is my new year message to ST viewers, contributors, pseuds, readers and editor.

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    • 5 January 2010 05:12, by Dinka Boy

      Hey Famious_logic_boy,

      We need to be ready for this aggression again.
      No more running and latter complaint for the good outcome.
      Thanks

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      • 5 January 2010 05:40, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

        Dinkas boy

        What is your point? are you after war or something else? could you please be more specific in details.

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        • 5 January 2010 06:18, by Mr. Awan Awan

          Logic and Dinka boys

          Both of you are good participants in this web site; therefore, I would like to encourage you my fellow to focus on the main article rather than arguing to each other. To me it is OK to respond to one another, but don’t let your argument dragged you out from the main topic always. Use your mental energy on our important issues. I hope I am not wrong. Thanks

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          • 5 January 2010 06:28, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

            Mr. Awan Awan

            I appreciate your judgement, but I think you mis understood my point, I am not an inch away from the article. I was asking dinkas boy whether he has intention of argueing SPLA and NCP to resume war. War benefits nothing to both sides this is what I was waiting to tell him.

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            • 5 January 2010 07:03, by Mr. Awan Awan

              OK Mr. Logic
              Thanks

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            • 5 January 2010 13:33, by real ringleader

              to logic boy
              plse leave that dinka boy, let him try to talk about war, he thought UNHCR will cosidered the refugees again.like the way he survived in kakuma.

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          • 5 January 2010 08:06, by Dinka Boy

            Mr Awan Awan,

            Thanks brother, i highly welcome your thought.
            In fact, i was telling Famious_logic_boy to be ready for the NCP aggression(war) all the time instead of him to look down when it occurs.
            Thanks gain

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    • 5 January 2010 08:11, by Sala Gai

      Dear equatorian

      No more running to Uganda,congo,C.A.R.The NCP has declare the need of the SPLM_DC, which take all Equatorian guys, but unfortunately the war has come which will lead all EQUATORIAN to Uganda.

      Thank and hope for new year
      unity Southern is the way of good governance.

      Salah Gai

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      • 5 January 2010 08:58, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

        Sala Gai

        This is the kind of criticism that will never make a unity at any level. Commenting against people rather than concertrating on the article will not make us set a goal for our common enemy. I thought you were mature enough to talk real politics far from such attitude, for now the choice is yours whether continue with this spirit or be a man of South Sudan unity, ie far from such criticism of other people. I was having delimma of ignoring you in respond to your childish comments, but I decided to remind you. Because a wsie aman will always accompany those indeed.

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        • 5 January 2010 13:54, by Sala Gai

          Mr Logic big boy

          you start Criticism last year; but now how was your Criticism end up with triblism even reaching my end ; saying i use to copy someone comment to used as mind:

          Exctually war come for all Southern to support them; who always run to Uganda will not be allow to come back again put that in mind!

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    • 5 January 2010 17:08, by son of abyei

      Thanks dude for the 2010 remark, as u put it, i guess its about time all this people with poor understanding of issues
      or are just full of hate and primitive communism to be open minded and joint hands, doesn’t matter what you may be as long as u are southerner and this should realy matter at all times cause GOD forbid should war break out it wouldn’t be just Dinkers or Nuer or any other tribe that will face war but all of us as southerns. So come war am picking up arms to defend my fore fathers land, the land of milk, honey and the great Nile.

      AMBOL

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  • 5 January 2010 05:04, by Kur

    We are not going to start the war, but one should assumed that we will not tolerate illegal activities on our soil. We will defend every inch of our land at all cost. So let the NIF beats the drums of war, but it is going to be a war they will not forget.

    Kur

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  • 5 January 2010 05:09, by Dinka Boy

    The Khartoum governmnet has been looking for the alternative of CPA instead of the common interest of Sudan as whole.The NCP has problem with all the referendum laws since the beginning of negotiation,and that is the clear sign of war.

    Dear brothers, there is war in 2011,but not on 2010.
    We need to be ready all the time.
    This is a deform government which can not be reform said by Dr Jogh Garang De Mabior.
    Thanks

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    • 5 January 2010 05:43, by Mel Deng

      I will drop out of my piloting school if the war starts again, but we need new leader from the SPLM than Salva who is repeating Arabs marginalization in his semi govt.

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  • 5 January 2010 06:40, by Gatwech

    Common Turkish,

    Well, this Turkish man, calling himself Sudanese and holding such sensitive Sudanese post is just beating the drums of war again in Sudan. He represents a bad group within the NCP camp. His complaints do not make sense at all because post-referendum issues are taken care of in the referendum law. He can discuss them with the South any time even after the South separates from the North.

    Let me try to examine briefly some of his utterances below in quotes:

    “He said that failure to resolve these issues prior to the referendum particularly demarcating the borders would lead to a war similar to what happened between Eritrea and Ethiopia and what happened in Pakistan.”

    Well Mr. Advisor, if you want the North-South border demarcated soon, just advise Al-Bashir to give political guidance to his NCP team working on the demarcation process. There is a committee working on that and who should have actually completed demarcations since last year if it was not because of your party’s delaying tactics. The issue was not supposed to be resolved by the referendum law, but by the demarcation committee. Got that!

    “Some observers have speculated at the time that the SPLM abandoned the demands of other Northern opposition parties, which joined hands with the ex-rebel group in last month’s demonstrations, particularly on the National Security law in return for the referendum law.”

    Yeah, and that is true because the SPLM wise men found out that the so-called Northern opposition parties were using them to destroy self-determination. I can see that you, Mr. Advisor, is sympathizing with the opposition.

    “The NCP official also accused the SPLM of failure because of lack of clarity in putting forward the New Sudan project adding that this is also due to the paralysis of its political will.”

    Well, the SPLM does not any more believe in the so-called New Sudan. The people of South Sudan do not want the so-called New Sudan. What we want is independent South Sudan. This project of New Sudan at the expense of the South is dead. We don’t need it. “North is too deformed to be reformed.” Every body has realized that and joined the noble right of self-determination toward independence.

    “The SPLM talks about attractive unity yet seeks independence then speaks of democratic transformation but does not apply it in the South” Al-Attabani said.

    Yes, Mr. Advisor, that is politics. We can talk of making unity attractive but seek independence. CPA has told us to talk about making unity attractive but not really making it attractive. We don’t even want to make it attractive, but rather unattractive! Even NCP is not making unity of Sudan attractive, so why making noises about SPLM?

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  • 5 January 2010 07:05, by Peace Lover

    My Dear Brothers and Sisters (Southern Sudanese),
    “Unity among us southerners needs cost us no fear. Love among us southerners need cost no shame. Let’s be together as one, no matter how bad things are, there is still hope! And no matter how good things are there is still more.”

    However, as many of us is following the news, in particular the CPA. Brothers and Sisters, I disagreed with those who said NCP is ready for “WAR”, which is the game from the ARABS in general.

    Every day the NCP or the Sudanese government comes with new thing which shows that they already know that Southern Sudanese are heading for Separation. So, what they can do is to used different strategies of lying, cheating everything’s which can make southerners and the whole world to believed that those people can’t lead themselves.

    Last time, Al-Turabi used Abdhlla Deng Nhil to run for president which never happened in the history of Sudan that allowed Black as a president, but this time they needed it for the unity propose. After they realized that Southerners or Dinka in particular don’t even care about that person, or base on their calculation of what their were projecting is already fails.

    Therefore, Al-Attabani has to come with new accusations for example,“SPLM is proposing the New Sudan project which he described as an incriminating proposal because it criminalizes the history of Sudan and does not even recognize its independence”.

    “The SPLM talk about attractive unity yet seeks independence then speaks of democratic transformation but does not apply it in the South”. Said Al-attbani.

    My Dear Brothers and Sisters (Southern Sudanese), what I can say today was a secret but longer secrets are there since the NCP playing games against my people. My colleague for long time from secondary school is working as “National Security” in Khartoum. He just told me that brother be careful our coworkers walking with guns all the time. Then I asked him what is going on? But he was laughing and said the Arabs already lost the confidences of united Sudan, so they are worry of any possible attacks from anywhere and anytime.

    But what I can said is that the Sudanese government is not ready for war and that is true 100% because they will lose it, and possible some of it cabinets will be arrest by the ICC. They doing all of these to scare Sudanese people particularly Southern Sudanese who’s just got peace recently so they can vote for unity.

    Imagine just by yourself, if they need war, should they announced it in the media or should be in secret preparation. But this is just the fear from their side now, they already looser that why they using the WAR as another way of bringing people for unity, because they already know there are some people hate war.

    There is one thing that the Sudanese government forgot, NCP is contained both military and political by SPLM. Beside the Sudanese government in general contained with other movements and it will never happen because they no longer trusting.

    Peace maker and Peace lover 2010.

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  • 5 January 2010 07:15, by AAMA

    I am not a fan of NCP or SPLA/M although I like many aspects of the so called Garang vision. NCP signed the CPA to the end war and added the referendum part to the deal that was brokered with a unity oriented political party to please everyone in the south so that there will never be a war again. Once that was done, Garang died(or may be murdered) and the SPLA started using the separation as a political tool (maybe a strategic goal too) and NCP felt betrayed by the SPLA who once got the chance, immediately switched priorities from unity to separation.

    Dr. Ghazi fears and projection of war is completely right, there is a lot of grey areas that are not agreed on and it doesn’t matter who is responsible for that. The referendum was supposed to be a mechanism to protect Sudan from returning to war, however, it became the main reason that will cause the war. Both parties are to be blamed for that. The SPLA should educate the people of the south on the pros and cons of the outcome of the referendum, be fair with them and not manipulate them and use their emotions on making such choices. SPLA should make their choices clear too, if they suddenly changed hearts and opt for separation, then they should work very hard in clearing those grey areas and make it very clear to everybody that they are working for an independent state in the south. And if they are for unity as they claim, then they should stop manipulating their people and using their emotions and stop playing the separation game. The SPLA should unite in one goal before any positive thing can be done. Sudan is bigger than the NCP and SPLA dirty political games, they will both go but Sudan should remain for the Sudanese people. It’s clear that the united Sudan is the logical and sensible solution for all this mess, however, and I can see from this forum, many people are just being emotional about the issue and there is no logic behind the separation of Sudan(maybe in the future when the people are ready to make rational choices), particularly in 2011 and the reason is simple, nobody is ready for it (people are just sticking to a CPA that both parties manipulated for their own agendas).

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    • 5 January 2010 08:55, by Greater Equatoria

      Dear AAma,
      reply to clumago@yahoo.com.You are the representative for North Sudan and I am the representative for South Sudan.All South Sudanese people please send your emails to me(clumago@yahoomail.com). AAma,why unless you surrender all your Islamic sharia laws,South Sudan will not agree to the current government system!

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      • 5 January 2010 12:30, by AAMA

        I am not representing anybody (north or south), i am just expressing my views of what’s logical and what’s beneficial for everybody. Sharia law is not the current problem and it is not the real problem for southerns, (i think) and nobody asks the south to agree with the current government. I am just saying that Sudan is not ready for the consequences of separation, at least not in 2011.

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        • 5 January 2010 14:21, by Akuei

          Dear AAMa,

          You are wrong. Why do you say that Sharia Law is not the current problem?
          While your Northern Sudan Sharia law says:
          (1) Non-Muslim cannot be a president.
          (2) All citizens can go to any country but Israel
          (3) All offices/businesses can close on Fridays
          (4) Counts Sunday as a devil day
          (5) More to list on this page.

          It is better that you say you "think," this mean that you are not sure. We (Southerners) are ready for the consequences of separation. Nothing better than separation we are going to loss as you can read from 1-to-5 above.

          In case war breaks out again between north and south. I’m ready to face you or any Mujahidin in the Abyei area.

          Bye Bye

          Akuei Akuei

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          • 6 January 2010 07:32, by AAMA

            Dear Akuei,

            Your words are full of emotions and mine are not emotional, i am not bias or something, i will say the truth infront of any body. Point 1-5 are not sharia, they are civil laws that are attached to sharia and point 4 is not true. But anyways, the sharia is not the main problem (I still think). The main problem is the hate to everything that is northern (labeled Arab) in a bulkly way, and thats way many in the south want separation.

            You need to start to think in a rational way, i am not wrighting here to fight you or anybody, and i don’t want to see anybody fighting in Sudan (I hope i was clear). And the south is not ready for the consequences of any additional war, not even the world strongest military is ready for war so be realistic and think of ways to achieve your goals in the minimum cost without selling out your moral values.

            If you or anybody want seperation, thats fine, but you have to make that decision on rational bases, without emotions and try to explore ways of how to achive that in a wise and logical way.

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      • 5 January 2010 13:53, by Akuei

        Thank you brother, Greater E.

        I’m behind you. You are our Southern Representative in this case.

        Yrs bro

        Akuei Akuei

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    • 5 January 2010 09:18, by actiongatkuoth

      hi
      as you see from such a foriegn man who is come from no where to support war b/n south and north.
      you citizen of south be careful and make good unity in order to over come arab people in the north.
      WISH YOU TO DO SO.
      SPLM OYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      SOUTH SUDAN CITIZEN OYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • 5 January 2010 09:43, by Stinging Bee

      To Ghazi, let me define war to you, if you do not know the meaning and benefits of it. It is the constructive and recognitive weapon used by man to shape his live from his Natural enemy. It is war that let us Southerners be recognized and respected by you disraptors and wolves of our resources. Because you have not acknowledged it that the war is our model to clear our own pathfrom the dust which you NCP (National Corrupt People)put into it. Have you realized aftermath that to go back to war again with Southerners has negative impact to your side. What Dr.Ghazi anticipated is not "recipe of war" but "deprivation from Southern Sudan Resources" because he (Dr. Ghazi) is an intellectual man; so he needs to derail the really point trying terrify Southerners about. War is a daily food for us Dr! However, we have nothing to do with you disraptors Arabs even to bother yourself to talk about changing an Article of Referandum. this time SPLA is not playing with you dependent and it will not be resambling before; this time, if you do not leave us alone (seperation)Mohammed will witness it. For how long did Southern Politicians commit themselves trying to solve peacefully the problems of Sudan which NCP put it to be Southern problems. No more talks; only Iron and the Blood. Because those who cause and fuel War don’t come outside but NCP (NATIONAL CORRUPT PEOPLE)Politicians like those of Dr. Attabani, Dr. Ali Nafie, Dr. Ali Osman Taha, and Dr. Awad Ajaz; they are all Doctors of Propaganda and Sabbotage. Therefore, Northerners will die out with their mouths watering at Southerners Oil. Enough is Enough. You have been consuming the Southern Sudan Resource; yet you are paying no thanks to the Southrn Land. Even the Land will cast you. So, we are better to be ruled by one Southerner rather than to be ruled by Thousand of Northern Rats.

      By: Stinging Bee (ARIEL BEERA)

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  • 5 January 2010 09:20, by Deng Gai

    Bravo! Bravo! SpLM/SPLA for your tireless effort that you exerted on the NCP/NIF regime in Khartuom,the Lion always roar after suffer a major defeat,as per now,mr Al-Deen has acknowledge their defeat and that is why they talk of post-referendom issues for their survival after separation because they always defend on us and they know very well that we are leaving them by all mean posible.they now have resort to the tough language thinking that they will Cow us but they will do nothing since we have defeated them on both political and military fronts.I hope if we maintain all these pressures on them, then we will celebrate 9/1/2011 in south sudan as an independent country.thank to SSLA,SPLA and to the people of S.Sudan,Iam proud of you,wish you the best all.And above all, thank goes to almighty God for keeping you safe and reform some of you who use to comment negatively on this web.

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    • 5 January 2010 10:13, by Wen Madhol-hok

      Now You peopele of Southern Sudan, are you not aware today? and you are killing civillian, go there where there is a war, war is coming. i thing that is one step otherwise bomps will fall ver soon from the sky toward these civillian whom are killing and they will gring food for you.
      A shame on you.

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    • 5 January 2010 10:21, by Stinging Bee

      En ee te de kan Deng Gai! We shall stand up for our Southern Sudan Independent on that date you put it. I need all of us to be men alone rather than to be under the Vulture and Eagles leadership always. We were even created by God to rule them. And if the North has Put a certain CASTE TABOO in the leadership of Sudan like that; therefore, South would have to isolate itself with it leadership from that THEOCRATIC and KORANIC Republic of Northen Sudan and create it own Democratic Republic of South Sudan that is full of Transparency, Freedom, Equality, and Tolerant besides iclusiveness. We Southern Median should not be tired of calling all Southern Society to have double conscious on Independent of their owned State of Southern Sudan. No one can come to give us freedom from the Northern SAXONIC KIND OF GOVERNMENT which does not recognize somebody as Human.

      I like your concept of patriotic Dengdit Gai.
      keep on at that direction. Praise to the Lord Almighty!

      By: Stinging Bee (ARIEL BEERA)

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      • 5 January 2010 10:48, by Wende Yongaptheeth

        This Turko-Egyptian man calling himself the religious remover or Ghazi Saladeen because he thinks that he can remove my religion and Big Logic Boy religion using his power in Khartoum is the most foreigner, most primitive with no root in Sudan. He is just a Turko Egyptian who is pitting Sudanese against themselves and will leave tommorrow and got to be arrested before he leave our dear country that he had destroyed.

        We are against foreigners in Sudan be them Egyptians, Turkish, Israelis, Americans or anyone else and the first who is suppose to be thrown out by the NCP if its claims itself as a Sudanese National Party is Ghazi fuck Laladeen au deen Umeek.

        This foreigner is working against the NCP, President Beshir and the Sudanese people and it is time he is deported. He is using religion of Islam to a wrong end.

        Sudanese are not just Muslims or Christians, they are also Africans and some Afro Arabs which this dude does not qualify in any way. He is using a single variable of Islam which we all knows.

        SPLA, NCP, PCP, Umma, DUP and other major parties, kill this foreigner and a left behind of Turkish colonialism in Sudan called Ghazi Saladeen or Mr. Fuck the Sudanese or Sudanese religious remover.

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        • 5 January 2010 10:57, by Wende Yongaptheeth

          Ghazi Laladeen, we are not afraid of war. If you wants Turkey and Egypt to go to war with Sudan, bring them on, But you got to stop pitting Sudanese against themselves in the name of Islam.

          We know Ghazi Laladeen or Saladeen is waging a South European and Egyptians race war in the Sudan. It has nothing to do with Islam.

          If President Beshir is an African Muslim as he claims, he got to deport the Ghazi Fuck Laladeen or Saladden nuu to Turkey and Egypt.

          We in the Sudan are not actually afraid of war but this war time round will be fought in Khartoum to the destruction of Khartoum so that anyone and everybody will return to where they came from and that is what is the Turkish Saladeen wants all along so that he returns to Ankara and Istanbul.

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          • 5 January 2010 11:06, by Wende Yongaptheeth

            This hooked nose Southern European or Barbarian as they are called in Europe is pitting Sudanese against themselves and president Beshir, VP Salva Kiir, VP Osman Taha must be conscious with the foreigner and he must be deported first to their colonial station Egypt and to his country Turkey.

            The turkish are backwards and are always looking back and President Beshir must be careful with this man thought all Africans loves white skins and beliefs that the lighter you are, the better and wise you are, Turkish are human rubbish or trash. Beshir or me are superior to Turkish and Yugoslavs though they claims themselves to be Europeans.

            This is a race war that Ghazi Laladeen or Saladeen is launching.

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            • 5 January 2010 11:12, by Wende Yongaptheeth

              Look at his backwards crooked theeth and ugly face he is not a European but someone taking advantage of being lighter among dark skin Sudanese such as me, Beshir, Kiir and Taha.

              Hey barbarian, if Turkey does not wants secession, why did it stop Cypyruss and Greek from seceding?

              This barbarian, primitive savage must be thrown out of our country once and for all.

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            • 5 January 2010 12:06, by Ibn EL Junub

              Southern Sudan will never get her independence since Savages like Nuer and their leader Riek Machar, are consider them selve as Southerners.
              The BIG Question is : How can the looser like DR RIEK MACHAR lead southern SUDAN while his savage tribe are stealing and killing other tribes, Riek is not capable.
              Like Gatwich and his tribesmen they should now that Nuer tribe will not be able to enth the looser DR Riek and His Savages.

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              • 5 January 2010 12:21, by Tuaks

                It is true that tribal conflict in Southern Sudan which is fuel by our selfish leaders will negatively contribute to failure of the emergence of Southern Sudan State, after long period of Armed struggles. I am not sure that we will be able to attain our independence since we still killing ourselves.
                Gatwich is my fellow Nasir Nuer but he is not wise and he blindly follows the Most Corrupt leader in the entire country Dr Riek Machar and his examples.
                All these things matters because people who called themselve as Politician are not real Politician but they are simply War Lords and Militias.
                They should be indicted

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  • 5 January 2010 14:21, by M.Cool.J

    Wwhat I see is clear,that it will give birth to war because of lack of implementation of the agreed laws.

    That is also what happened in the last twenty-two years aand it will be beyonnd control if it bursts.

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  • 5 January 2010 19:43, by Time1

    This Turkish has to shut his mouth and let the real sudanese speak, this are the same people who have been frasturating efforts to reach meaningful resolution, i bloame the NCP for living national issues int he hands of foriegners like Ghazi salah aldeen who does not care about Sudan but only pretend inorder to get some money.

    What solutions did this turkish called Ghazi subscribe to the problem? he should have also given the road map for a solution and the time needed to solve this issues, he should not just come on media to make loud noise when it was NCP who was wasting time by beating around the bush instead of solving the real problems.

    How many days is needed to talk about border, border issue has been discussed long time ago and the border demarcation commission has been doing its work but the NCP keep frasturating the issue, also about the nationality, anyone who can prove he is originally from the south of sudan will automatically have the right to declare his or her nationality as southerner or as a northerner if they want to remain as northerners, this can be done at a designated points which should be created by a comission to be formed for nationality issues.

    Water agreement and debt are international agreements which south sudan cannot sign or a gree to right now only after proper studies of all the international rules and laws.

    Water agreements, national debt , UN, AU, Human rights ,IAEA, trade and the ICC are all agreement that south sudan will look into after 2011, this agrements cannot be discussed in a short time, it needs more time like 6 month to 2 years, that means only possible after referendum.

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    • 5 January 2010 22:09, by mike

      I have been telling you guys for the last few weeks that the independance of South Sudan will not be easy. The Arab will try to do everything in their power to destroy peace in the South. Wait this is the first step,to give warning about the possibility of going to war again over water, oil, or security of the country as whole. The second step would be to divide Southeren among themself, in that case they may succeed given some tribe in the South are looking out for their own intrest. So we need to be very careful about those kind of activities otherwise we will end up like Somali divided among the warlord. I heat to see that happening, because it will be an embaressing to thousands of people who lost their lives during the twenty pluse years of war.

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    • 5 January 2010 22:51, by majak garang

      I hope the government of south sudan has got the message . there was no peace. Neither SPLA-M won the war nor the battle.It was peace (agreement). However. Sudanese NCP knew that southenes are not united .I think time has come for salva to unite southenes .and stop some of Dinkas who are commiting atrocities in south sudan .like land grabing in Shilluk land.What began with divison will not end well.Silluk proverb, (Cholo)Shilluk believe in what he see?!

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  • 5 January 2010 23:05, by Majang

    I don`t like war again NCP must be satisfied by 2.5 million sudanese who died during the long Civil war.

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  • 6 January 2010 01:20, by Time1

    Sorry people the seperation of south sudan will happen peacefully and can not be stopped, the CPA has already ouytlined all the steps that need to be taken, there is a road map for the peace process untill the end of the intereim period, so that is how the process will continue.

    However the issues of water agreements and debts are not south sudan problems, south cannot accept to pay debt that was used to build khartoum and other northern cities while the south got nothing, second, the nile water agreement will have to be discussed within the frame work of the nile basin countries, so sudan government have no rights to demand that south sudan look into that issue, south sudan will only dign water agreement if they see it appropriate with their interests.

    Also the north cannot cause divisions int he south as they dream, they tried that strategy for two years now and they failed, they were hoping that by supporting militia and supporting terrorist groups like LRA they will cause chaos in south sudan, but they have been suprised their evil plan did not work, also there is no return to war, no body wants war, all this issues will be followed throught he CPA as president Kirr has already remined us before.

    The border already has a border commission working on the border for sometime now, they are just left with putting the dots ont he ground.

    Southerners are very wise and very well organized and monitoring every step, Arabs can not fool with Africans anymore.

    so this Turkish whom northerners have entrusted as their master should take that foolish words and swallow it.

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  • 22 July 2013 08:23, by manojpatel

    Thank you for the wise advice you have given to Murle Screwed. You see his contradictions.Tuna Pasta Bake

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