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December 6, 2009 (KHARTOUM) – The Sudanese authorities arrested the SPLM Secretary General Pagan Amum and his deputy Yassir Arman, Sudan Tribune has learned.

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Sudan SPLM Secretary General Pagan Amum (L) and his deputy Yasir Arman (R)

They were taken to the police station after appearing for the planned protest in front of the National Assembly.

The Qatar based Al-Jazeera TV website said that its TV crew was prevented from covering the demonstration and their tapes were confiscated.

Reuters said that around 25 SPLM and opposition supporters gathered outside the parliament in the early hours of Monday and were surrounded by police armed with batons and shields.

Arman, a senior member of the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) scuffled with police outside the National Assembly and was driven away to a police station, a Reuters witness said.

Police officers beat demonstrators and onlookers with batons as Arman was driven away chanting "freedom."

Amum speaking through his cell phone from the police station to Al-Jazeera said that they have recieved permission from the interior ministry to carry out the demonstration.

He said that the law allows for staging protests if they notify the authorities beforehand. He accusd the government of breaching the constitution and resorting to restricting freedoms.

The Darfur Justice and Equality Movement (JEM) issued a statement calling on all its supporters in the capital to join the demonstration and “extract their rights to express their free will in their present and the future of their country”.

“The movement urges all Sudanese opposition forces to join forces” the statement read.

It was also reported that the police detained the SPLM figure Abbas Goma’a who also holds the post of the state minister for interior in the coalition government.

The Sudanese authorities surrounded the headquarters of the Umma Party. An eyewitness said that the police threw tear gas.

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The Sudanese opposition groups vowed to stage mass demonstration at the parliament on Monday despite a last minute ban made by the authorities on the rally raising fears of a confrontation between the two sides.

The Sudanese interior ministry issued a statement saying that the political parties did not receive proper permission to proceed with the mass protest and warned that those intending to take part in this “illegitimate” demonstration with legal action.

The move is a reversal in position by the government which has previously stated that political forces “are entitled to engage in any manifestation that is in accordance with the laws to express their opinion”.

Eyewitnesses who asked not to be named told Sudan Tribune that thousands of heavily armed policemen took up positions in the capital since early morning hours in an apparent bid to curb the protests.

The bulk of the parties which signed up to take part in the rally include those signatories to the Juba declaration last September in a conference hosted by Sudan People Liberation Movement (SPLM).

The parties are protesting the delay in passing crucial laws including the national security and referendum bill. A memorandum is set to be delivered to the national assembly.

However, the Sudanese cabinet unexpectedly announced that Monday will be a holiday in order to allow people to register for voting before the deadline expires. The decision prompted some opposition figures to view it as an attempt to kill the planned rally.

The SPLM Secretary General, Pagan Amum said that around 50,000 are expected to take part in today’s demonstrations. He added that the number will increase within two weeks if the laws do not get passed in this timeframe.

Yesterday Amum said that Monday will be a “historical day for the start of mass popular movement for freedom”.

The Sudanese president Omer Hassan Al-Bashir met today separately with Umma Party leader Al-Sadiq Al-Mahdi and Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) chief Mohamed Osman Al-Mirghani.

Al-Mirghani, who boycotted the Juba conference, told reporters afterwards that Sudanese issues cannot be handled only between the ruling National Congress Party (NCP) and the SPLM.

The Umma party leader Al-Mahdi said he proposed to Bashir an “elections Code of honor” and Sudan state media reported that Bashir told the ex-PM that it is needed in order to pave the way for the coming Elections, stressing the necessity of displaying it to all political parties for reviewing and studying it.

Al-Mahdi added that strong national efforts are needed in the upcoming period to address the issues of differences. He indicated that an inclusive national gathering shall be called to tackle points of differences with regard to the Act of the Security, the referendum, the issues of Darfur and the freedoms.

However, the Umma party leader made no mention of the planned demonstration though other officials confirmed their intention to participate.

The leader of the Darfur rebel group, Abdel-Wahid Al-Nur said he supports the SPLM in “achieving the legitimate rights of Southerners”.

“The problem of the South is the same problem of all Sudan whether in Darfur or in the east. We need a new state based on values of liberalism, citizenship and secularism” Al-Nur said.

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  • 7 December 2009 06:47, by BUSTA 2

    Pagan Amum is dead living thing,

    This man seems to be trouble maker why all the time full of problem??

    Please those who advise him should do so otherwise his days are numbered. This is not time for joking Amum be very careful with your life.

    Brother in Christ,

    Busta 2

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    • 7 December 2009 07:03, by Dinka Boy

      Mr Busta2,

      Why are dancing with the false rumours.
      Please there is nothing like that.
      If it happen, then the war has begun in Sudan.
      False false false aricle.
      Thanks

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      • 7 December 2009 07:35, by Gatwech

        Dear readers,

        The news of humaliating arrest of Pagan Amum and Yasir Arman have been reported over the news every where.

        Look, I have been telling you that Pagan Amum is looking for a crisis which he could not control. See the humiliation done to him! He has been arrested like a thief or street boy found messing up with people in the bar.

        Pagan Amum always wants to avoid the peaceful and successful way of negotiating the laws. The CPA is mostly implemented and there are other smart ways by the SPLM team, led by Dr. Riek Machar to convince Bashir and Taha to complete the referendum laws and popular consultations.

        The so-called laws for democratic transformation are useless since SPLM itself is not ready for the elections. They don’t even nominate their candidate because they have difficulty in nominating the candidate. So why create unncessary crisis because of such useless laws. And why not use other avenues to settle them if they are that serious NOW!

        The referendum law is 95% agreed. The most important provision needed which is the 51% to declare the South independent is already agreed by Dr. Machar and Taha. The remaining part is only the turnout percentage which is closely between 55% (SPLM position) and 60% (NCP’s position). They are very close to reaching an agreement and therefore it is unnessary to create a crisis that will only worsen the situation over an issue close to agreement.

        Pagan Amum just wants to show himself foolishly that he fights for the rights of the people, but instead he drags the people to war when we are at the verge of referendum.

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        • 7 December 2009 07:58, by murlescrewed

          Riek’s houseboy,

          I underestimated your traitor character until now. I knew all along that you are nothing more than a confused servants working for Riek and his wives. For you to brand comrades CDE Pagan Amum and CDE Yasser Arman as troublemakers is nothing short of treason. You don’t deserve to be breathing the air we liberated from jellabah.

          What happened to these two leaders is a declaration of null and void of the CPA. Al-Bashir and his criminal regime are living on borrowed time. Sudanese of all walks are rising up to demand laws that will make elections fair. NCP is trying to institute laws that will favor its candidates and you are trying to blame CDE Pagan and CDE Arman just because Riek’s poor negotiation tactics were disapproved of by the SPLM leadership? You are nothing more than a nyagat dog with his tail between his legs. We liberated South and we will not allow a late-comer nyagat like Riek to come and negotiate it away like he did with KPA.

          Let me inform you that we know Riek is grumbling in his house and sending confused boys like you to go and do his dirty work that is anti-SPLM and anti-South. You should be ashamed of yourself and turn yourself in to the local authorities for treason.

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        • 7 December 2009 09:13, by Bill Dhieu Manyang

          Dear Gatwech,

          I think it would be good enough to stop commenting and try to learn the politics of the world.

          The demonstration has been always a last resort for any oposition in a country given the long time that people spend renegotiating the CPA and some of the national laws. Remember that whatever comes out of that you will be affected whether a good thing or bad things if you are truly a southerner which I doubt most.

          Police is not a hell but a place where the rule of laws and justics are sorted out. The may go and come back but this does not stop what they want.

          Mr. Yarserman and Amum, you have shown something which had never happened in Sudan history. Continue and Bashir will listen to you.

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        • 7 December 2009 09:18, by Thyinka

          Gatwech,

          Don’t let your petty personality politics blind you to the greater danger facing all oppressed Sudanese from this NCP’s strong arm tactics. Think beyond your nose!

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          • 7 December 2009 10:47, by kangatin

            Let them experience the taste of humiliation!!!!!!! the freedom you deny others shall also be denied to you!!!! let the dogs bark gatwech while the camel is moving.

            These uncouth youth think that by insulting using street language people will be bended. This is very light; have they forgotten the incident of Kwaje recently at his own home? Pagan and Yaser will surely face the same way.

            They have destroyed the interim period and they are also a danger to the refrendum, by creating unnecessary problems, which could have been takled with on the round table with their partner the ncp.

            How can a person oppose him/herself? You are in the government and you are in the opposition, the best would have been for the SPLM to withdraw totally from the government and then go to the streets as opposition.

            We southerners are very unlucky to have such people like pagan and Yaser to represent us and always directing us to the wrong position. What is Sadig now after all? one time he was killing southerners. Look what happened in a Dhahein and Jebelain. At whose time? So now SPLM thinks that he has become a friend.

            Shame on you!!! for misleading our people in the name of democratic transformation which does not exist in your hearts. Look at south sudan today; insecurity everywhere, people are being arrested and killed in the hands of SPLM/A and no one is brought to trial. The money which is meant for the development of our land is looted to foreign lands. Shame and shame !!!!!!!

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        • 7 December 2009 09:42, by spanner

          NO!!! Pagan and Yasir were arrested simply becouse of the millions of dollars those cheeps has been stealling!!!! well done,its agreat news any way,two down many to follow including the cowboy him self.

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        • 7 December 2009 10:10, by Mel mosa

          I agree with Mr Gatwich, Pagan sometime act like childish not politician. He suppose to control and respect himself as a leader.

          As NPC side, its really dictatorship to arest the high rank like Pagan and Yasir. That is indicated that the NCP leadership is dictatorship.

          Mosa

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        • 7 December 2009 11:16, by mohammed ali

          They are just playing their communist tactics.They are not going to succed.Khartoum is very quite.Very few people turned up for demonistration.People are lining up in thousands to registered for the elections.Their aim is to delay elections becsuse they are going to lose it.

          If they want to change the laws they can change it through the ballot box. They can change the government itself only through the ballot box.ANARCHY IS NOT ALLOWED.

          The Cubian communist twins ,the fugative Arman and loser Pagan can not derail the CPA, simply because they are going to lose the elctions.

          The CPA stipulates that elections to take place this year and the referundum next year,this is going to happen . Nobody is going to change these milestones towards final peace for all the Sudan and only through the ballot box.

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        • 7 December 2009 12:03, by Lukudu

          In reply to your views Mr X, you really have limited understanding of the implementation of CPA. Have you read the whole CPA articles and interpreted them meaningfully? What parts of the CPA have been implemented fully and what remains? I want to advise you that the staggering CPA is yet to be implemented and the NCP is playing around it every time. Do not claim to be enjoying the fruits of CPA before they ripe. You have not seen anything good yet. What Pagan and Arman are doing is the right thing that we Southern Sudanese including all marginalised Sudanese should do jointly to ensure that our rights are being heard and granted. We are begging for our rights to be granted as if we are not the right people to have rights. We should not make pool of Pagan and Arman but to add courage and encourage them to go ahead knocking the doors that have been shut for us the marginalised Sudanese. When these people were fighting against the Sudanese governments, they were struggling because we have been deprived of our rights. Where is your freedom at this moment Gatwech?

          If news of Pagan and Arman’s arrest was true or false, it make no difference because they are strugglers and heroes of CPA and they have a right and have been charged with full implementation of the CPA. For these reasons, they still continue pressurising the NCP to ensure full not part implementation of the CPA.

          Go ahead Pagan, go ahead Arman. May God grant you courage throughout your struggle to ensure all that was agreed during the signing of the CPA are implemented.

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        • 7 December 2009 19:50, by Kim Yong

          The news report of arresting the top politicains in South Sudan Region is very clear and there is no doubt about it.In addition,Pagan Amun and Yasir Arman were arresting because they need everyone to have equal right of speech and freedom of thought. However, let me undermind you Mr. Gatwech that your are salling your vision to your roommate or you completly confuse because you suport what do not know in country issues. furthermore, there is no secret political agenda between Southern politicans with Bashir or Taha neither NCP part without Sudan in general.I hope, Paga Amun was arresting for right of Southern Sudan people but not like "Theif or Street boy" this your words.
          Please, you need to keep your word on the current issue to avoid being unrealitic person in politic.

          Kim Yong

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        • 8 December 2009 04:28, by Gatnyatuach

          Gatwech we are the majority in the SPLA, so don’t fuel the fire as it will burn us more than others! keep away my friend otherwise you are killing Naath unknowingly!

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      • 7 December 2009 13:38, by Sunlight

        I don’t support SPLM but I’m completly annoyed by the inhuman and illegal arrest and humiliation carried by the police against Pagan and Arman.

        NCP must be thought a lesson. All freedom seekers must rise up to bring down this useless government.

        Long live the freedom of Sudanese people.

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      • 7 December 2009 18:29, by Jordan Agu’moi

        You can intimidate and do everything you want but the truth remain people must have freedom of speech, religion, and other human kinds of freedoms.

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    • 7 December 2009 07:03, by Afredo christiani

      Bustard busta -2

      Nothing will kill amum. All your comments are contrary to our independent .you will die before amum son of bitch.
      Go a head amum. All revolutionaries are after you. Do not worry .

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      • 7 December 2009 07:19, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

        kakuma survivor Aflredo and dinkas bull

        This is a great sign that your corrupt SPLA party must change the way your looter are abusing power in South. People must be allow to choose their political party and practice it free anywhere, now this is a clear revenage organised by bashir himlself not innocent Lam Akol. In this black nation of South Sudan i see that your futureless and illitertae puppies are behaving more than autocratic, with the killing, arresting, looting and tribal activities your black gang party will just have its activities within South. You have already given arabs the candidate, so what else are you dreaming to achieve. Even seperation will still bring a mess to the ten states in South. If you don’t trust my words wait for the truth. But don’t take another holiday to kakuma.

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        • 7 December 2009 13:47, by Achuil Manyuat Tong

          ha!

          your stomach will burst

          Is this guy confuse why is this commenting like a mad man
          It look like you do not know what to say.
          My friend if u continue to be anti-democracy
          stoping eating the products of the struggle of the people of southern sudan otherwise your stomach will burst into pieces infront of people .

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    • 7 December 2009 07:15, by Gatjang

      Busta 2

      You are busted and your days are numbered. An idiot and retarded man like you who disrespect leaders deserve no respect. Show some sense of human.

      Gatjang from Duk

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    • 7 December 2009 07:36, by Angelo Nyang

      my friend you think if Pagan and Yasir are dead the war is going to start in south i don,t think so,but what i know they southern are readly for everything weather CPA OR fighting this time North government they are thinking south is like before ,but let them try this time.

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    • 7 December 2009 07:41, by Chuanga-enoor.

      Busta two, Pagan is not a dead living, what he was doing was right, a right thing should not kill people, this will show the international community that there is no freedom and democracy in sudan though they said there is.You are a stupid arab,your sharia country will die soon.Continue Pagan, Nelson Madella was our example struggle for our right we don’t need to sleep waiting for Arab theories rather then practicle.

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      • 7 December 2009 08:35, by brotherkeeper

        what the fuck are you talking about motherfucker? You think we like South Africa? You are stupid son of the we are trong people we can fight we not like south Africa ok
        Dont you every say that again. SPLM/A oyeeeeeeeeeee fuck Nelson Madella he doest know how to fight.

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    • 7 December 2009 08:06, by Atem Angok

      Busta 2, you will be the first with your NIF government to see death before Amum. watch out Christ is monitoring all your deeds!

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    • 7 December 2009 08:07, by Nile

      Pagan and Arman think they are bove this Islamic law now what happen!

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    • 7 December 2009 08:10, by Aarai Baka

      what I have see now is the declaration of war on to Southern Sudan by northern Sudan arab. what humiliation!!!!. Southern Sudan is now in the State of emergency to response to this act.

      Back to Gatwech whose his uncle or his stepfather riek black delay all bills and come to South with false information that bills were been met ncp.

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    • 7 December 2009 08:21, by Deng Garang Akech

      Dear Friend,
      Be responsible and allowed yourself to know the right of human being on earth.Pagan Amum Akech is a right Sudanese with all the principles of leadership expect to lead not only being Southerner, but for all Sudanese to be on the right track for Democratic nation where there is PEACE EQUALITY,JUSTICE,FREEDOM AND LIBERTY FOR ALL SUDANESE REGARDLESS of Arabs and Africans.

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    • 7 December 2009 08:31, by peter marko

      To fucking Busta and his likes

      You are nothing less than fucking idiot, shallow minded in whom the mentality of enslavement has been indoctrinated. Your fucking masters are playing with the fire and what they did today will backfire on them. Even though your masters have no any choice other than releasing them, SPLA will not let their cowardice action go without making your masters pay a heavy price for their cowardice action. This time SPLM is more determined than ever to not be pushed around by anyone. If your masters want to resume the war, they would have dug their graves by their own hands. This time the war will be fought in their deep territory. If your fucking masters did not learn anything from what Justice and Equality Movement did to them in May of last year, than this will be the last lesson to be taught to them.

      Be informed that should something happen to our beloved leaders, Pagan, Yasir Arman, and other officials, SPLA will start with traitors in South before they cut off the head of snake in Khartoum. This is not a joking matter so you better run for your live before SPLA Dead squad gets you.

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    • 7 December 2009 08:48, by Simple Man

      Hey!hey!hey! Bastard or what ever they call your anus. Shame on you to call Pagan Amum a trouble maker. Remember that there is a risk involve in everthing you do especially in freedom/liberation any where in the world not only in sudan. Pagan has offered to work for freedom no matter what ever risk/obsacle involve.
      Please stop laughing at somebody who is arrested like Pagan, you never know it may be you tomorrow.
      Think hard on that and change your altitute.

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    • 7 December 2009 09:12, by Thyinka

      All Sudanese have the right to express their displeasure with the NCP regimes peaceful. As president Kennedy said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." NCP will eventually go and Sudan will remain. They have lost the fight for the soul of the country. NCP has only succeeded in creating hatred for religious extremism and dogmatism among the Sudanese people.

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    • 7 December 2009 09:43, by Sala Gai

      Mr. Busta 2

      It’s not a crime to dead Mr. Busta 2 when you dead for the right of the people for entire Southern and the rest of Northern part who are mistreated for more year. I hope you have had the dead of Dr John Garang it was not his fault to struggle for the peace of the whole Sudan but special South, For you it show who is ever struggle is his/her own fault when lose her/his life.

      Long leave struggle SPLA/SPLM

      Long leave Salah Gai to bring peace and Good Governance for entire Southern

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    • 7 December 2009 10:25, by ater piow

      THE ARRESTT OF PAGAN AMUM AND YASIR ARMAN IS A DECLERATION OF WAR ON SOUTHSUDAN

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    • 7 December 2009 11:55, by mathem jech amer

      Al Jazeera Reports

      South Sudan leaders arrested

      Police had warned that protests to push for reforms and a referendum were illegal [AFP]

      Sudanese police have cracked down against an opposition rally in the capital Khartoum, witnesses said.

      Police arrested three senior figures from the south’s ruling party and dozens of protesters on Monday including a state minister.

      Pagan Amum, Yassir Arman and Abbas Gumma from the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) were led away as they arrived by car at the parliament building in Khartoum’s twin city of Omdurman, they said.

      Amum is the SPLM’s secretary general, Arman its deputy secretary general in northern Sudan, and Gumma is a state minister at the country’s interior ministry. Amun was moved to a local jail.

      The SPLM called an emergency meeting in the southern capital of Juba after the crackdown.

      Police had announced that the demonstration to push for reforms ahead of national elections and over an independence referendum for south Sudan would be considered illegal.

      However, several hundred opposition protesters marched on the streets of Khartoum and Omdurman, waving placards and chanting: "We want our freedom."

      Police, who initially trailed the demonstration, used tear-gas to disperse them and beat protesters with batons.

      Among those arrested were Barmina Awrial, Khartoum’s state minister for health, and Siddig al-Turabi, son of Hassan al-Turabi, the veteran opposition National Islamic Front leader, along with more than 70 others.

      Roads blocked

      Security forces blocked roads leading to parliament, with a heavy presence in key areas. They also closed the bridge to Omdurman, which lies on the west bank of the Nile river across from Khartoum.

      "The security committee for Khartoum state has met and decided that the protest is illegal," Mohammed Babikir, a senior police officer said on state television late Sunday.

      "Whoever takes part in this demonstration will be breaking the law," he said, shortly after Arman had told journalists he expected "thousands of our people" to take part.

      The SPLM and the ruling National Congress Party (NCP) of Omar al-Bashir, the president of Oman, have failed to agree on democratic reforms ahead of elections next April.

      They have also yet to agree on a law for the south’s referendum scheduled for January 2011.

      The national vote will be the first in Sudan since 1986, three years before al-Bashir toppled a democratically elected government in a bloodless military coup.

      The SPLM and around 20 opposition groups called for a "peaceful protest" to exert pressure on the NCP.

      Khartoum state announced the closure of schools on Monday and a day off for public employees to underline the government’s "engagement ... towards democratic reform" and to aid voter registration.

      Reform and changes to the election law were key aspects of a 2005 peace accord which ended the African continent’s longest-running civil war, between north and south Sudan.

      The Comprehensive Peace Agreement called for the general election and the referendum.

      Brought to u by Jech Amer

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    • 7 December 2009 12:15, by Abyei

      Dear Busta 2

      Busta how fuck are you to wrote such a word ( dead )? are you sure hundred percent that their arrest means the are guilty to be judge dead? your evil spirits upon your says. ( in jesus’s name ).
      Congratulation to Amum and Yasir your a members of those who are following up the spirit of humanity and corruption fighters in Sudan. never give up and God together with us will change the situation you deserved for the first time to be Arabs prisoners in khartoum innocently.
      the whole world is focusing and may God send the holy spirit upon sudan.
      Arabs will never and never plug thier politics on us
      Bashir is the dead living oraganism if you Basta wants to know the death living human beings.

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    • 7 December 2009 12:27, by free son

      There is no such thing as freedom in Sudan. The International Criminal Omer Albashir(may his name be fucked together with him ’wa kullu aawaanahu’) This bald head ’mundukuru’
      must be arrested, because ’alsura magluuba tamaaman’ for a fugitive to arrest honest and respectful people and national heroes like Pagan Amum and Arman.

      The war should now start. Period.

      aneetagii@yahoo.com

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    • 7 December 2009 13:27, by Achuil Manyuat Tong

      Busta

      you have not made any point .
      freedom has got a cost i don’t understand why many people are fearing demonstration .
      people died in the war and nothing happened except the current peace we are enjoying .
      He is trying to fight for your freedom .
      what ever happen is the fight for the freedom of southerners.

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    • 7 December 2009 15:56, by Time1

      BUSTA 2, Let one brave NCP Arab member step into southsudan, even Omer bashir will enter the jail if he comes here.

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    • 7 December 2009 18:43, by Freedom Fighter

      I’m proud of comrade Pagan Amum, Yasir Arman, and all freedom fighters in Khartoum for their sacrefies and their committment to long walk to freedom. I salute you in the name of all freedom fighters and encourage you to keep up fight for our people. While calling upon GoSS to send a very strong message to NCP by arresting their eyes and tools in the South (SPLM-DCs, SPLM also should conduct general mass mobilization , and strengthen its ties with Northern Political parties to isolate and force NCP to submit. The NCPs should not be allowed to terrorize people of the Sudan while they’re in their weakest position.

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    • 7 December 2009 20:22, by The Living Witness

      Bashir herself, i don’t know his sex coz he/she is sexually out of life. His/her wife is being massaged by the body guards. The intimidation is nothing otherwise we are ready to pick up arms and fight with real arabs not mixed arabs like before.

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    • 7 December 2009 20:45, by wol malei

      To all sudaness brothers and the writters using tribune, u need to understand that this war is not btwn north and south but it’s btwn all sudaness and NCP, a party that roppes them of their right at day light.
      For those who never believes in sudaness and believes in NCP, I want to tell u that only one quarter of powers in sudan are in the hand of NCP and the rest are in hands of SPLM and sudanes who needs deocracy this is indicated by today his demonstration in which northerness demonstrated together with theirsb southern counterparts,those brothers will not be left to be marginalizes NCP, we will work together for one sudan and to make sure powers are in save hand, in case no body will compaign for that i will.

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    • 7 December 2009 21:59, by kuoldit

      You stupid black Arab,mind wash,Arab collaborators,why don’t you be tired of Arab you son of bitch whose mothers have been fuck and even yourself including your fathher. before CPA which allow each and every slaves to have freedom to participate in and outside the country.Amum will die for his right,it is you who have been eslaved by Arab will go before this man Amum.

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    • 8 December 2009 04:26, by Gatnyatuach

      Buster2 you are absolutely right, Mr Pagan should not ruin things for people of Southern Sudan, the guy always talks out of his mind, he is not diplomatic at all and thus he must shut up and keep quite a bit because we don’t the war to be caused by rich and only kill poor, he will not be there tomorrow to fight his war just like Garang and Salva did! We fade up of people using innocent people, this time we will speak on their behave!

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  • 7 December 2009 06:51, by Oduko

    hahahaha good news ever!! they must face justice cause the two man try to breakdown CPA in front of Sudanese face so sweet good job national sicurity and our president as well for order.

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    • 7 December 2009 07:10, by Gatjang

      This is not the way to kill CPA blind man, this is democratic way of doing thing, nonviolent and peaceful demonstration and professional too. Wake be realistic. Mr Amum is well educated Shilluk with reasoning, not like your uncle Dr. lam who have a PhD for traitor. You are happy but it is coming back to you, your uncle Lam, and your president.

      Gatjang from Duk

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  • 7 December 2009 07:01, by Dinka Boy

    Propaganda.
    They are liers.
    If that was true then that mean the war start in Sudan.
    Please stop posting false articles.
    Thanks

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  • 7 December 2009 07:02, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

    Good because black SPLA party has been arresting SPLA-DC activities in South, now face the truth and don’t regret your own problems. Religion and politics are individual choice and must be allow to be practice free anywhere. SPLA get prepared to fight for your bravery Amum to be released. I wish this happen to coward shareholder Mr Kiir.

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    • 7 December 2009 07:09, by Gievn Mundari

      God save sudanese people from all this we want enjoy peace

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      • 7 December 2009 07:30, by Dengtaath

        Though Amum is some how quick in his decisions, but today’s fight for Amum is a good fight. No any Southerners can blame him, those who blame him now in this fight conducting by his honour the SG is a real enemy of our beloved South Sudan.
        And I believed if Khartoum regime attempted such an evil act by arresting him, is a clear indication that NCP is not ready yet to honor any democratic process in the country.
        We the freedom fighters will stand shoulder to shoulder to free our country from the dictatorial regime in Khartoum.No matter what it takes to reach the golden peace in our country we will stand strong against evils.
        Amum will prevail is a leader of the great people.
        Long live SPLM, long live South Sudan.
        God bless!
        dengtaath

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    • 7 December 2009 07:13, by Aparana

      This Cuban communist twins Pagan and Arman plus those other jalaba opposition are trying to abort the self determination for South Sudan. rejecting election means no referandum.

      Aparana.

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      • 7 December 2009 07:16, by Aparana

        at least it is good that they are arrested by the police instead of the MI, unlike the South Sudan.

        Aparana.

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      • 7 December 2009 07:41, by thokpiny de Deng de Thokpiny

        Aparana or shit.You are a maggot feeding in a rotten wood who doesn’t know what is happening outside .these guys you blame here are the only real living heroes of South sudan and the rest are just shits .they save your mother ass from Arab hell fire during the fuckin war of the SOuth seek-and-find peace process

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      • 7 December 2009 10:00, by Sala Gai

        Mr. aparana

        I think your concise by an Arab that why you will not know what are talking about the politic, please if you never know to play politic it’s good for you to live it to the rest who know the trick.

        Coming to your area, i may think that you are from Equatoria who are never know what is good in the country and always united with Arab to get some Money.

        Long leave Salah Gai to bring peace and Good Governance for entire Southern

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    • 7 December 2009 07:21, by Lorolokin

      I dont know if this news is reaally True,so that is war nothing more.

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    • 7 December 2009 07:21, by Afredo christiani

      Busta 2 / magic and oduk of shulluk you are the only people who don’t want freedom of southerners in this website getwech is a chameleon between two side waiting for the winner so that he join them . To a sure, you criminals that SPLA has become very very stronger more than before. You people don’t play with fire

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    • 7 December 2009 07:30, by Gatluak Bil

      This is totally madness to dictatorial government of terrorist based in Khartoum.
      please I ppleal to UN security councile minus China Rusia to take immemediate action to the most wanted criminal Bashir of the Sudan.

      Please GOSS this is a time to prove beyond areasonabl doubt that you are the government of the pleople Southern Sudan.

      Bashir ,you are acting like a crawel baby but remeber your days numbered. go to heal to your cousin Sadam Hussein foolish absurd silly.

      Your atrocities in Darfur will never leave you unpunish. NCP criminal, terorist, killers of innocent party.

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    • 7 December 2009 07:48, by Gabriel Green

      Who ever wants to kill the innocent people should go to hell before them.

      Why not organised this demonstration in Juba?
      Pagan should hold on at this time because there is no way you critize a criminal while in jail Bashir is a wanted guy and he has a don,t care attitude.

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    • 7 December 2009 09:11, by Aduol Liet

      Oduk Bol and Fool Logic Boy.

      For Oduk Bol, you are just dancing for untrue statement and this is real unprofound and I just forgot to tell you that, you are absolutely out of touch. I think the Sudan government will not try to arrest any one from those Top leaders SPLM Secretary General Pagan Amum and his deputy Secretary General Yasir Arman, if they does then, there will be no doubt that, for sure there be another resuming civil war in the Sudan and I do think this is going to be very difficult Road for Sudan government to go back to war with Southern Sudan while, the Darfuri’s problems and other in Eastern Sudan are waiting killer Omar al Bashir to answer these things correctly. Mr, Oduk Bol instead you guys are supposedly to be proud of Pagan Amum and Oyai Deng Ajak both have outstanding job in the SPLA/SPLM Movement history unfortunately, it seem to me that, you guys let the stupid man Dr, traitor Lam Akol Ajawin have fool you and to cooperates with Arab policies that has let many lives lost in the Sudan but at the end of the ’Day you will be sorry for being always cooperates with Arab killers in Sudan.

      For the Fool Logic Boy, indeed you are so well known for being an Idiot person in this Website which some hundred of thousands Sudanese people are always expressing theirs thoughtfully concerning in this short time that seem to be very Important time in the Sudan history so that, others nations in the world will heard us about this unusually killing in the Sudan. I belief that Arab Idiots Cable TV, are making false statement just for their propganda matter, because they are all jalously whenever, they see this Sudan didctatorship Omar al Bashir is about to fallen very shortly. You have been bearing in Southern Sudan mother land as well as your parents were originally Sudanese Black African in Southern Sudan, loook it is unwise move to against strongers people who have real fought about your rights and they are on move to liberates you and your whole families in the Sudan. Your time will come to end and these people will lead you whether you like it or not you must obey what they are trying in order to get rights.

      My Message To: the SPLM and GOSS in Southern Sudan, we would like you to speak up at this moment so that we want to know exactly what is going on now, if this statement was real true or false and we hope the Sudan government will not attempt to do that, because this is outrage to arrest Officials. If that statement was officially confirming untrue statement then, the GOSS and the SPLM Party must prepare what I might call it smarter plan, because the smoke of fire does not come out without anything cause it fire and for SPLM to understand very intelligence ways, this romurs must have something beyond than that, according to my knowledge I think, they are planing in advance a head to arrest these Importants leaders in the SPLM Party and the SPLM in GOSS must not allow such dishonest in Sudan government.

      How the SPLM Party will prepare for such unwanted in a big ranks in the SPLM, well this is very easy task for the SPLM Party to be prepare instead of sitting unprepared. The first thing you guys need to do is that.The SPLM must fully understand that, Sudan government is a dictatorship system remember there is no trust in dictatorship government, there is no confidentality in Sudan government of Omar al Bashir and to deal with ruler government, you must be smart in all levels and you must be get ready in time a head. To do that it will allow you to know precisely the unusual behavior in Sudan government for example, the Khartoum government have made some root with all traitors people from all Regions within Sudan Country and if the SPLM observe that, there is danger for them then, there will be no need for the SPLM Members to sell theit Ideas of trying to make influence of democract system to undemocratic people like National Congress Party and this stupid man Omar al Bashir killer.

      Finally, apparently if the SPLM have observes that, there is a danger for them to have a HQ in Khartoum then, SPLM must Immediately plan to withdraw all Offices, including SPLA Troops from Khatroum and possibly they should relocate their HQ in either South Kordfan State nor Southern Sudan and make sure that, they SPLA are fully take controls in all Nubia Mountaints, Blue Nile and South Darfuri, because we can not leave a biggest parts Map to remains for Sudanse Immigrants Arab African whom their grand parents were just came for making Trade only. SPLM must focus on this Map seriously otherwise, it will be a big mistake to leave North Sudan with big parts Map mean Regions in the Sudan unless the Nubian people are interesting to have friendship with Arab killers in North Sudan.

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      • 7 December 2009 20:36, by Oduck Bol

        To Aduol Leit.

        You have to learn how to differentiate between the spelling of names. What did I write wrong that let you to reply me with your tribalism? You must be careful when you are replying to some one’s message. I see you always your reply goes to wrong person. Please try to focus on the name of the person whom your writing goes to.

        Thanks

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  • 7 December 2009 07:14, by Hillary B.M.L,M

    Bad news,

    SPLA Should watch out otherwise Kirr will be arrested and kill. So CPA is finished, all Guns will be confiscated, this a true things on the ground now started with SPLA Secretary General and his Deputy.

    Why is your power SPLA???

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  • 7 December 2009 07:16, by J.James

    Guys

    Those who support arabs are all stupid kids who don’t know how arab are bad.

    Please Khartoum must release Pagan and Yasir Arama mmidiately before SPLM could take drastic measures against Khartoum regimes.

    We in the south are out of patient towards Khatoum notorious, hateful, sp called government in Khartoum.

    God bles the writer is laways peace lover.

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  • 7 December 2009 07:20, by Oduck Bol

    Wow.

    I think, from this days until 2012,it is not a funny game any more. SPLM should not include itself with coalition groups which was planned by UMMA party, Truabi and other parties to destroy the CPA. The protest is not the SPLM case.SPLM has international can back them up if CPA has violated by NCP.

    You have been fooled now,what is next?.SPLM should quite the Coalition.

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    • 7 December 2009 08:15, by james nyoma

      SPLM must pull out from the GoNU and let tthe struggle continues. Let Bashir be taken to ICC.

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  • 7 December 2009 07:29, by thokpiny de Deng de Thokpiny

    this is serious,please tell Salvar to quite going to Khartoum immediately and inform the SPLA,to standby.I see now that there is no need to waste time talking about the fucking united sudan because Arabs ares showing us their real asses .let united now and get ready for the worst or elese we will all be in hell whether you are Dinka or shit

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  • 7 December 2009 07:29, by Adam

    Dear Southerners,

    I earlier warned that SPLM is not behaving the way they should to safeguard the hopes of South Sudan. I also mentioned in many of my posts at this website that CPA is the peaceful and way. But Mr. Amum and his allies are destroying everything. They spare no effort to make troubles to the already troubled people of Sudan.

    You cannot call for this protest while you boycott the parliament where the laws have to be discussed and finally approved. What is it SPLM wants to achieve? Laws are made with the peace partners, approved in the Council of Ministers and then passed by the Parliament. SPLM has not been cooperative in all that. it behaves in a naive and unprofessional way. This will lead nowhere. No one will support the hardliners.

    Now, things are getting more difficult for us who want a separate South Sudan. I heard Mr. Amum saying over the BBC that he has been arrested by the police. He claims that the police has used excessive force. How this could be justified while he could talk to the BBC via mobile? This is irresponsible. He is now having a real taste of how human rights abuse feels like. SPLM is not allowing political freedom in the South. It is known and documented. Why SPLM is crying for freedom and human rights in the North? Has SPLM allowed its peace partner and other parties freedom in the South?. The Council of Ministers issued a resolution that no rally is allowed period. SPLM cannot break the law and then cry. It is better to set a good example of good and fare political practice than such a brainless moves.

    I am so disturbed by the news – all Southerners should, but not because Amum and his Jalaba deputy were arrested, but because the coming election and consequently the CPA is been jeopardized by the blind SPLM leadership.

    I hope that the people of South Sudan in Khartoum will not participate in any peace disturbance. They should not follow SPLM astray leadership to cause more damage to CPA.

    How to solve this crisis, Mr. President of South Sudan must take severe actions now – not an hour later.

    O ye Southerners UNITE

    Adam Milawaki, Kansas

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    • 7 December 2009 07:37, by thokpiny de Deng de Thokpiny

      Adam ,you lack tolerance to problems ,these shits were there in Sudan before u were born, we in real ground here will solve this magic in our own ways man cool ,because you are in Kansas ,you don’t know the real story about sudan

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    • 7 December 2009 07:41, by peter gatdet

      Southerners

      Ncp want to see what would be the reaction to the SPLM/A and they will be release before SPLA take action if not Kharoum must be burn to ash in the nearer future.

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    • 7 December 2009 07:42, by Michael Madit Magot

      Mr Amum should be given time to taste the darkside of Arabs’ cruelty because he has been supporting unity of sudan.
      He should learn that southerners are longing for separation to put a full-stop to Arabs’ slavery treatment of the marginalize.
      I wish that such arrests happen to they our leaders in order for them to tune their minds to secession which is the major goal supported by maority of southerners.

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    • 7 December 2009 07:58, by peter gatdet

      Khartoum must be burn to ash if they are not release after one hour bcz what the ve done is not favourable politically,it will be time for Salva Kiir to be arrest if his General Secretaries are arrested,So the only solution is to burn Khartoum down in to ash then it will be rebuild again like Sotherners’Towns who were burned down during the war.

      Time for revenge has come.

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    • 7 December 2009 08:11, by Chuanga-enoor.

      Adam you are a damn refugee ,a stupid, an Arab supporter no freedom/decmocracy without hardship, theories without practicle will not work if they are not implemented, you are SPLM DC supporter you spy on SPLM IN Khartoum.SPLM as a people’s party will and will always prevail.Long live splm long live spla long live South Sudanese patriots long live the people of South Sudan long live South Sudan.

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  • 7 December 2009 07:33, by peter gatdet

    Dear, Southereners.

    Southerners,what r u waiting for? this is day of self-declaraion, we should declare our independency today.

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    • 7 December 2009 07:45, by Allajabu

      Thank you brother Gatdet!

      I am just contacting any nearby SPLA military barrack to re-enrol in the army once again and being deploy to the borders of north and south.

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    • 7 December 2009 07:53, by DASODIKO

      Haaaaaaaaaaa, where those among International Community who still support Bashir and NCP will turn their faces? This including Thabo Ben Mbeki and US Special Envoy to Sudan Gen. Jonathan Scot Gration whose said before the committee that everything in Sudan is going according to the plan.

      Imagine the CPA partiners are detained, so what happens to the ordinary citizens of Darfur and Sudan in general under this regime?

      America America you need to take unilateral action to save Sudan or you will be balmed to death. China when they take what they want they immediately look for another country; they don’t turn again to see what is happening to the country they have stollen their properties.

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    • 8 December 2009 04:42, by Gatnyatuach

      why calling yourself with peter Gadet! he is not stupid to declare war when things are going at right direction! name yourself any name but don’t use this gentleman’s name falsely

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  • 7 December 2009 07:38, by Gatwech

    Southerners,

    The news of humaliating arrest of Pagan Amum and Yasir Arman have been reported over the news every where.

    Look, I have been telling you that Pagan Amum is looking for a crisis which he could not control. See the humiliation done to him! He has been arrested like a thief or street boy found messing up with people in the bar.

    Pagan Amum always wants to avoid the peaceful and successful way of negotiating the laws. The CPA is mostly implemented and there are other smart ways by the SPLM team, led by Dr. Riek Machar to convince Bashir and Taha to complete the referendum laws and popular consultations.

    The so-called laws for democratic transformation are useless since SPLM itself is not ready for the elections. They don’t even nominate their candidate because they have difficulty in nominating the candidate. So why create unncessary crisis because of such useless laws. And why not use other avenues to settle them if they are that serious NOW!

    The referendum law is 95% agreed. The most important provision needed which is the 51% to declare the South independent is already agreed by Dr. Machar and Taha. The remaining part is only the turnout percentage which is closely between 55% (SPLM position) and 60% (NCP’s position). They are very close to reaching an agreement and therefore it is unnessary to create a crisis that will only worsen the situation over an issue close to agreement.

    Pagan Amum just wants to show himself foolishly that he fights for the rights of the people, but instead he drags the people to war when we are at the verge of referendum.

    He is now arrested like a kid and we only pray that he is released safe. You will see him running to his mansion in Denver, Colarado, USA. This man should stop his HIT AND RUN attitude. CPA needs those who have deep understanding of the situation to handle it wisely until 2011.

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    • 7 December 2009 07:51, by Gatwech

      Only SPLM senior leaders arrested. Sadiq Al-Mahdi who fooled the SPLM to carry out the demonstrations with him is not arrested. Can you see how the Northern opposition parties are playing tricky games using the SPLM? What they want is knock the head of SPLM against its CPA partner, the NCP, so that CPA is killed. They are now laughing at the humiliating arrest of Pagan Amum.

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      • 7 December 2009 09:03, by peter gatdet

        Gatwech

        The way u ve commented about this article has humiliated u as narrow- minded Nuer with 6marks on ur forehead,CPA is the outcome of the SPLM/A struggling and hardship and if Pagun is arrested,he has not been arrested as a defector against Southerner bcz to get independent is not s/th easy there must be hardship to those who have devoted their ilves like Pagun and Yasir and for independent to be achieve by Southerners some of the political figures will lost their lives rather than arrest only.Dr Riek would have been arrested but unfortunately it could not happen bcz he is aformer friend to Bashir

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        • 7 December 2009 23:10, by Majang

          Peter Gatdet becareful now,don`t let your brains go to your head.who told you that Gatwech was agains CDE Pagan?and what make you to be agains the Naath people`s cultural mark?Did the mental hospital tested too many Drugs on you today?or do you want to die stupid?I can see that Any Similarity between you and Human is purely coincidental.guid your big mouth this time.

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      • 7 December 2009 09:14, by peter gatdet

        Khartoum lasim yiitala Rommad alela de,ilee pagun ma yasir yipiingu pi thijin gebel thaa ten ma tammad.

        Khartoum must be change to ash today,unless pagan and Yasir are release before two hours.

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      • 7 December 2009 11:42, by mohammed ali

        Sadig Almahadi & Mohammed Osman Marghani had ameeting with Basheer yesterday they are not going to take part in the demonistrations.

        The SPLA had signed the CPA with Albasheer and he is going to implement it fully.The problem is we do not know who makes the decision within the SPLA! Machar signed an agreement , the communist twines rejected it; Salva Kiir said we did not reach a dead lock with NCP while the communist twins say the opposite, who is on control here? The president and vice president of the GOSS or the communist twins Pagan/Arman.They want to delay the elections and the referendum.The fugative Arman will lose everything if the south voted for secession.He will be a big fat Zero.His only way is to delay both the elections and referendum.Noway the CPA should be fully implemented.They can change the laws, the government and all of Sudan only through the ballot box.But since they know that they are going to lose it the are trying to delay the elections and derail the the CPA.No demonistration is taking place in Khartoum, and there will not be one!

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    • 7 December 2009 09:25, by silake comba

      Unfortunately, many people who are making comments here looked the issue from a very narrow angle of the views and interests of Sothern Sudan separatists. These people completly ignore the general context in which the National Congress Party made concessions as sign the so called CPA with its great advantages for the South. SPLA fought for about 20 years ( 1983-2003 ) and there were no signs of having such deal as the CPA in that easy way. 2003 was the year where the centre started feeling the pressure from Darfur. As I said, that deal was made within a certain mixed national and international context. There were crucial and determining factors in that context. The rebellion in Darfur was one of the most driving factors that led to the birth of the " CPA ).So, the deal was by no means the fruit of pure SPLA struggle.People must and should undertand that this peace deal came also at the expense of the people of Darfur. Were it not for the Darfur crisis, the NCP could have fought for 20 more years.Darfur is still paying the price for that contribution and stance.
      Coming to the main issue, abortion of a peaceful process of ligitimate protest, it is very unfortunate too.This sort of behaviour by the NCP portends an future of uncertainty.Under these condition of oppression and suppression there is no meaning for the upcoming elections.People can not give ligitimacy for dictator-democracy. It should be proved whether Sudan is for all or it is a " Hakura" to a certain group of people,call it a political organization or whatever else. Responsibility, responsibility, responsibility is my advice and call for the sake of our history as Sudanese, for the sake of our entity as a people, for the sake of our kids of today, the genrarions of tomorrow. History will hold accountable those who are responsible for the dismemberment of Sudan; land and people. I have no doublt about that.

      Silake Ali Comba-Darfuur, El-Fasher
      - E-Mail: waarhawari@gmail.com

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      • 7 December 2009 12:03, by mathem jech amer

        comba

        Please don’t write fake e-mail here. Warawar is a place given to Maraleen to sell their goods. You know nothing about politics, only riding camels and selling salt, balaha (dates) and sweets.

        please mind your business and know what profit you will get today.

        Jech Amer

        Kuajok, Warrap State.

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  • 7 December 2009 07:52, by Paul Lokuji Micah daudi

    God save the Sudan from all this crisis.
    The question is where is the two committees that are negotiating on this issues is it the works of Amum and Arman to take over from Machar and Taha,Please I agree with most of the comments but this is not the time to cause havoc because we are almost some where to the referendum then why cause all this mess,if the SPLM has nothing to do now let them work on the other issues here in Juba than waste time.
    If Amum and Arman had been enjoying their life’s in the US,Cairo,Nairobi but the simple Southerners had suffered good enough from the War that had left the South in drags.
    Please President Kiir this is the time to fire this good boy and get a bad boy to do the job than wasting time and energy.

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    • 7 December 2009 08:30, by Kim Deng

      Folks,

      These few unionists who still believe in Mr. Marxist-Leninist Garang’s poor vision "New Sudan" must not keep South hostage; even the Abyei which were sold out to arabized Nubian gov’t by Deng Majok in 1905?

      Coward Jang/Slave (Dinka Boy),

      I’m still waiting for your definition of word/name "Jonglei" in your own language, otherwise I would assume that you agreed with me, but ashamed to admit the fact on the ground.

      I urge you to be ready for worst because the Mighty Nuer Warriors are coming for dirty and ugly invasion [Mut] in two months and they [Nuer Warriors] will not only burn down Duk Padiet, Kongoor, Mading Bor [Ngundeng City] and all the surrounding villages to ash, but they will take whatever they could find plus young ladies and children as captives.

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      • 7 December 2009 08:44, by Dinka Boy

        Hey Kim Deng,
        I don,t response to someone who makes noise,and i don,t talk alot when talking with fool.
        Thanks

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      • 7 December 2009 08:46, by kuminyandi

        Hey Kim Deng,

        Would you please stop your racial comments and be positive for awhile. I would appreciate you alot if you do so. Try to preach love, peace, and liberty for all people of the South. Please put tribalism aside for the moment and help us bring clear understanding to hot issues we are facing in the South. I urge you to change your tribalistic attitude to constructive building of nationalism within our communities in Southern Sudan. Thanks

        Kumi,

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      • 7 December 2009 08:57, by Khent

        Coward Kim Deng/Bashir’s militia boy.

        You’re the same cowards who worked with Bashir in protecting the oil-fields on behalf of the Khartoum government... And are now the same disingenuous TRAITORS who speak of bravery and valour.

        "Matip, who had always worked closely with Bashir since their days in Mayom together, could be counted on to do the government’s bidding in the field."

        - Dr. Douglas Johnson- Page 123- The root cause of Sudan’s civil wars-

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      • 7 December 2009 09:32, by Angelo Ajiech Manyuat

        Gatwech and Kim Deng, any freedom fighter who is fighting to liberate or free his/her citizens doesn’t care about the humiliation or embarrassment because he/she wants something that will bring change and give citizens power to chose whatever they want without fear. How many times did freedom fighters like Nelson Mandela and many others were jailed because of launched their peaceful protest against their colonizers. As a matter of fact, did you guys see now why NCP refuse to change security law. They want to maintain it and use it later to intimidate and force other people to vote in their favor so that they will win general election by any all means possible. Please guys, let’s show a little support to our Party SPLM. Yes, Pagan and Arman might be unionsist as you guys claim, but what they’re doing now is to show the world that NCP is killing the CPA so that the world knows what’s going on in Sudan. The GOSS should pressure NCP to release all those who were prisoned. This is a peaceful demonstration, it doesn’t harm any one moron arab. We have right as a citizens to make demonstration as long as it doesn’t bring any harm at all.

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    • 7 December 2009 08:48, by telfajbago

      The arrest of Pagan,Yasir and the other opposition figures is a grave setback to the political process and fatal blow to the spirit of the peace agreement.I used to tell people that,it’s suicidal to attempt to co-exist with dictator regime,which is not adhering to any peace agreement what so ever.

      Today’s arrests is really slap on the face of those who nurtured hopes to tame the radical Sudan Taliban -like regime of Khartoum " The political transformation you have been dreaming to see,will not be reality with Khartoum.We believe that the only way to achieve it is to oust the Islamic regime from power".

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    • 7 December 2009 08:54, by Wilson Kur Lual

      We will never give up demonstration if demand is not considered otherwise election is insecure for all Sudanese citizens country wide.

      Foolish Gatwech with his auncle Riak Machar will never help south unless patriots southerners like Pagan and rest stand up.

      God bless south Sudan!

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  • 7 December 2009 08:48, by ogopadj

    99% of the idiots, who comment to the news on this Website, are retarded!! Who doesn’t know the meaning of a protest? People protest for what they think is right for them. Pagan has no problem. He is doing it for his freedom as well as the freedom of his fellow citizens like YOU.

    I’m longing to see some of these idiots. I know many of these idiots live in the West. They are just here playing electronic games, drinking, partying, waiting for the little monthly money as assistants from the governments, and breaking boredom by making senseless comments on Sudan Tribune. I live in the West too but I think I’m not as stupid as many of you guys. All these comments don’t make sense. From these comments I can propose a conclusive assumption; we got losers who would be happy to lose Sudan to the Arabs.

    If you aren’t a loser then why do you think Pagan is wrong for his actions? Think about it. I have seen how stupid people are in the West. Many people have no life at all.

    You better change otherwise you will die commenting on this Website when others are enjoying the fruits of democratic actions like the Pagan’s.

    Peace.

    Anonymous.

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    • 7 December 2009 09:11, by Afredo christiani

      Dear ogopadi
      You are truly son of southern Sudan. God will bless and help you, wherever you are. We southerners need people like you ,

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      • 7 December 2009 09:27, by ogopadj

        Thank you Afredo Christiani. Listen to the audio interview on New Sudan Vision if you have time. It’s really sad. God bless you.

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        • 7 December 2009 09:50, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

          Hoaao!! dear Sudanese!
          Peaceful Demonistration can not lead to Arrest.
          Arresting Pagan Amum and Yasier is the violation of CPA.
          or would be war 72 hours they most be out. Unless if SPLA/M is soldout. I can’t believe it is happening! we will see what going on. and the close watch

          tone of liberators!

          Nguetnuy de Luelpiny

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      • 7 December 2009 09:44, by kuminyandi

        Dear Southerners,

        Where is the Goss from this crisis? and why Goss did not issued statement regarding this vital issue? And, why Vice president and his deputy are silent? why they did not come out at least with something to ensure Mr. Amum and Mr. Yassir are safe?. Why there’s no any reaction from the government of the South at all? why Goss did not anticipate this action by NCP? The Goss better come out with the news sooner because public is waiting.

        Kumi,

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  • 7 December 2009 09:46, by Akuma

    I wonder sometime they way people in Sudan do theirs. Only Pagan Amum and Yassir Arman are only leaders that fighting for the rights of people and democracy in Sudan?
    Are they only leaders that are superior and well political experts there in Sudan? Where are the rests? or they are only representing Oppsitions parties in Sudan Khartuom.

    Pagan and Arman should stop confusing Sudanese if they only people who can fight and they rests are grapping to renting expensive houses outside like some GOSS Ministers whose families are here in USA.

    Demonstration should be not done in Khartoum because those leaders are NCP opposers and they can be kill without comments, this forthcoming election time, many assisinators will come up and dismantle all claiming leaders who try to oppose NCP regime.

    Don’t wait for clarification, Pagan and Arman are arrested, and they may face justice, after court, they may be sent to death or life in prison, because that demonstration, Arabs mostly NCP term as Coup.

    Southern Sudan Government need urgent release of those leaders other Arabs plans in Dry season has begun.

    KEEP WATCH; THIS IS DRY SEASON FOR ALL ARABS PLANS WAITING FOR IMPLEMENTATIONS,
    SOUTHERNERS YOUR EYES.

    Dr. Akuma, Chicago USA

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    • 7 December 2009 10:02, by maduel Anok

      Itis dusgraceful for the top official in the government of the sudan ended up been arrested unhde3mocraticaly.

      It is now crystal clear that the NCP controlled government is not wiling for the democratic transformation of the country.

      SPLM should now open its eyes and denounce disengagement with the NCP if this impunity continue to persist.

      May the spirit of democracy blesses the Political icons who are detented.

      From Maduel Anok.

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    • 7 December 2009 10:11, by guandongwel

      bravo,SG Amum you proved to be an hero for democratic struggle your late comrade pionered for in the Sudan el habib. STRUGGLE CONTINUED. You will be out Haleluyaaaa

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  • 7 December 2009 10:04, by Augustino

    Dear all I have been very carefully in reading all your comments and I did very happy with some of possitive comments from good citizens who loves unity but not happy with comments from Nuer stupide boys who monger the war between small group of dinka and their large stomach riders nuer. the question is who arrested the politicians? is Dinka Bor or Bashir? yes it is Bashir. what is the point of war between Dinka Bor and Nuer here? this issue is very big issue at national level which needs wise people to comments on them carefully for solution to be reached. back to the point there, Pagan and yasir including others are not wrong but Bashir never know some thing about democratic they are talking about. He know only killing and cheating as the features of his democratic style. but it is opposite to democratice that known to Pagan and Yesir which base on freedom and expression of freedom. I pray in the name of Jesus Christ not to repeat the death like the one happened during the death of our late Doctor John Garang time.
    I want to warn those stupide Nuer boys who wanted to spoil the name of Doctor Riak Macher Teny who had already repended from his sins of killing innocent people in years back to 1992. please Riak is a leader at national level and not at nuer level and if you thing so then you are wrong and against his leadership he looking to uphold in the futur.
    thank you for stupidity.
    augustino in australia

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  • 7 December 2009 10:07, by ASADIG

    what has happened to the SPLM seniors officials and the mass in general is realy serious breach to the CPA and constitution, and it’s obvious and clear that the NCP in particular doesn’t wana help get the country out of dilema and a byss.
    these group of thugs(NCP police and security inteligents)and their cotries know no laws at all.today’s incidnent is a testemony.
    Amum and Yasir, have done a great to sudan and other political parties by taking people to street demonstrate peacefully but it would have been an uprising if they had informed the riff raff,mass of people in OMBADA,HAG JOSIF and other shanty are unaware of it besides taking precoious measurse if the NCP try to block it.
    if don’t know why do some of ill,narrow minded people critise them insted of joing the protest.

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  • 7 December 2009 10:08, by Martin D Ajhak

    Bravo Amum & Arman,

    Your voices are heard and you have caught Al Bashir red-handed. Arresting is not helping Al Bashir at the moment. The remaining part on our way to freedom is critical and it needs you to work hard beyond threat and intimidation.
    CPA would have been meaningless to Southerners if you were not there.
    Good on you guys South loyalists behind you

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    • 7 December 2009 10:16, by maduel Anok

      A man could endure alot of hardships and deprivations in the pretext of liberating his country. The people of the Sudan should respect Amum and Arman to the maximum because, they are intimidated for the seek of the People of the Sudan.

      Where are Riak Machar and Lam Akol’s Sons now?

      You should shut up because your men have never been arrested in the same way for the bettermenmt of our black land. Please! eat and stay away in the country’s politics.

      I’m Maduel Anok.

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      • 7 December 2009 10:30, by kuminyandi

        Dear Southerners, go to www.newsudanvision.com to listen to the Mr. Amum interview in jail. Its remind me the times of Kasha in Sudan during 1980s. Thanks

        Kumi,

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      • 7 December 2009 10:53, by Afredo christiani

        Kim deng
        Via versa. Nuers are Arabs slaves’ .this time dinka of Bhar el gazal will not allow you to defeat dinka bor again. Try you will be given a lesson that will not be forgotten by nuer’s nygats, forever and ever. Cowards always seek help from Arabs .All route will be close by dinka

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        • 7 December 2009 23:30, by Majang

          Afredo christiani your saying Nuer are lave and adding that you the Bar el gazalian can`t defeet the Greate Nuer.haahaa.
          talk is cheap.this is just Dinkas Diarihea of the mouth;you want to enccarage your brothers,hoo.you will be sprayed by the Nuer like Chockcraches.it just Constipation of Ideas while you knew nothing about war.look your waseting your liquid waterry Brain on Nuer for nothing.All of your ancestors must number in the Millions;it`s hard to believe that many people are to blame for producing you.answer me bro since from our four fathers have you ever heard the Dinkas defeeted Nuer not at all.Nuer had always conquers the all southerners.without the Help of arabs.since spears period dinkas alway runs like birds.

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    • 7 December 2009 10:28, by guandongwel

      No reason at all related to this issue that can make you insult your selves based on your tribal lines. unless most of such contributors are insane,shame on you tribalist. Democracy and freedom were the core value of our struggle and no way one can turn this issue in to Nuer and Dinka whatever.

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    • 7 December 2009 10:40, by Aparana

      TODAY STUDENTS IN JUBA HAVE PEACEFULLY DEMOSTRATED AS THEY ARE NOT BEING TOUGHT FOR THE FACT THAT, TEACHERS HAVE NOT RECEIVED THEIR SALARIES FOR THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, THE SO CALLED CAPITAL POLICE HAVE ARRESTED AND BADLY BEATEN A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER OF STUDENTS SOME OF WHOM ARE NOW BEING TREATED IN JUBA TEACHING HOSPITAL. PEOPLE IN JUBA HAVE EXPRESS THEIR CONCERN REGARDING THE INCIDENT.

      APARANA.

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  • 7 December 2009 11:30, by Africano

    The Dinkas should get ready to fight with Northerners. They should not take for granted that the other southerners will help them time with their war. They have been enjoying the fruits of peace on the back of others. Now let them get ready for their war. Dinkas go ahead with your plans.

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    • 7 December 2009 12:12, by Deng John Ajang

      1.Are we in a democratic or autocratic state? 2. Is there any individual obliged to derogate or nullify fundamental rights and freedoms? 3. Are Sudanese cursed to gain legitimacy through confiscation, deprivation and intimidation?

      It will take long for NCP leaders to understand good governance to achieve the consolidated peace, the miserable move intended to unnecessarily detain the SPLM key figures has confirmed the wise word of Pagan describing Sudan as a " failed and corrupt state". However, it’s a direct declaration of war and GOSS must take appropriate diplomatic step(s) in showing the international community peace and stability in the region.

      This action is a gross violation of National Interim Constitution, it’s expected to yield negative impacts eventually. The days are numbered for Southern Sudan to declare her independence no matter how tough the stabling blocks are initiated by the anti CPA elements who are wanted by the ICC for war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity.

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    • 7 December 2009 19:16, by Angelo Nyang

      Hey brother we are not afraid for the war because the bad year is 1991 when the all ladies left Dinka in the war,but now you don,t have to worrying about it go back were you have to run to not everybodies are men at home,so you know now the a little time you spend in Juba you are happy that is a freedom Dinka want to all sudan

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  • 7 December 2009 11:46, by Equatorian_Narrator

    Oh!Oh!Oh!

    Now this is a direct peovocation,which clamours a prompt and aggressive reaction from all Southerners.How can the government arrest an outstanding southern Sudanese politician in this very crucial time?Do we deserve such humilation?NEVER!!!

    I’ve always been wondering,why do our leaders still stick in Khartoum to form such stupid groups e.g SPLM Northern Section?There is nothing such as SPLM Northern section,where the Mundukuru also have their saying,unless we still dream of uncle Garang’s actualisation of liberating the complete country.

    If you ask me,I definately see no reason for Southerners to hang around in the North and dream of setting permanent roots in that desert.I suggest they sell all their belongings in the North and head back to develop the South.For comrades,who are still at odds with themselves e.g Dr.Lam,I honestly advise them to decide for themselves,whether they’d still love to share the bowl of Foul with those crackheads or not.This should happen very soon,because our frontiers would then not be permeable for boot-lickers and power-greedy,corrupt characters

    The North is not what a diehard worrior from the South should be merited for.Pack you items and GO HOME for goodness sake.

    EQ-Narrator

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    • 7 December 2009 12:16, by spanner

      TIT-FOR -TAT!! AN EYE FOR AN EYE,YOU DO ME AND I DO YOU, THEY(SPLM) USED TO HUMILIATE OTHER POLITICAL PARTIES IN THE SOUTH,ARREST THEM,JAIL THEM WITHOUT TRAIL,NOW WHY DO YOU SPLM SUPPORTTERS CRY FOUL HERE?? DO TO OTHERS GOOD FOR THEE SHALL BE DONE TO YOU,SPLM THINK THAT THEY ARE THE ONLY CAPABLE PARTY IN THE SOUTH. WHAT A GOOD LESSON HERE.
      STOP YOUR WAHALAS PLEASE.!!!!!

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    • 7 December 2009 12:38, by Tripple J

      Dear Southern Sudanese,
      Let’s be united and avoid the Nuer, Dinka, Shulluk and Equatorian Rhetorics in this website. We are all Black Africans and we need to live in that standard. Let us ignore the preachers of doom such illogic boy who laim to be an Equatorian.I don’t think an Equatorian can have such broken English. The likes of Busta, Gatwech etc, are not Southerners if you can analyse their articles and nonse in this website. Unless they start to write logical information, i will continue to be bitter about them.
      To hell with Jallaba!
      Southern Sudan Oyeee!!!!!!!!Independence Oyeeee!!!!!!!

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  • 7 December 2009 12:16, by Nicholas Mayan

    You are southerners should not let yourselves to be played with, You know the Northerners always are very clevers, they always knows how to play games, specially with to the southerners. So you need to be carefully.

    Nicholas

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  • 7 December 2009 12:29, by Kur

    Dictators will not be allowed ro hold us hostage in our country. All peace and freedom loving people of Sudan must rise up to remove this evil regime. What they are doing now means they do not want election. instead are proposing that the country should go back to war. Bashir must be stopped.

    Kur

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  • 7 December 2009 12:54, by Ramshnoah

    Hi guys as u can see these two heroes here are being arrested know that the number of days of Mohammed Omer Hassan el Bashir are nummbered and believe me though South Sudan is to be Indepedence, Sudan shall never be the same. Bashir is now loosing legitimatecy which he was getting from the Sudanese citizens as a whole. There for I request Amum and Yashir Armun that never give up we don’t want to be two Indepenedent countries when we have the chance for Unity. It is just at the interest of Bashir and some of his ruling cliques that they want South to Seperate so that they shall never be taken to ICC. because they know that people like Pagan Amum and Yashir Armun shall never give up in seeing that this illigimate constituitional violater, the dictatorial,and a traitor callled Bashir goes to Haque. This Shows his mul - administration. Now to those in South Sudan who are looting the money of the locals please wacth out ur days are also numbered people like Pagan Amum disserve to be honoured with heroism because of what they are doing but for You, I don’t know how to put it. But your corruption, yr tribalistic tedency,ur illigimatecy,ur incapability to lead South Sudan one day one time shall come to light I am back to Nageria.
    Thanks may Sudan never be the same again
    now and forever amen.

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  • 7 December 2009 13:10, by Apole Enah

    Dear President Kiir,
    H.E. Lt. General Salva Kiir Mayardit, First Vice President of the Republic of Sudan, President of the Government of Southern Sudan, Chairman of SPLM & Commander in Chief of SPLA.
    This is a big and tough test in your leadership; otherwise, you have to react appropriately to the unlawful arrest of the SPLM Secretary General Pagan Amum and his Deputy Yassir Arman on Monday in the capital Khartoum.
    The Southern Sudanese People and SPLM/A are waiting for the orders from you so don’t take too, before the situation is out of hand.
    Pagan & his deputy Arman have been very loyal SPLM/A senior members who couldn’t be humiliated in such a way by the Khartoum Government.
    Therefore, we called it an organised arrest by both your stupid Vice President Dr. Riek Machar and his Gay husband Omer Hassan Al-Bashir, the fucken President of the Republic of Sudan and the master minded of the Sudan genocide & ICC most wanted!!
    Just send the troops to Khartoum or do something else urgently to free your future leaders. The So called Idiot Dr. Lam is having a big party in Khartoum tonight thinking that it’s going to support his rumoured nomination to the presidency. This is all rubbish and something miraculous will happen soon that transform the whole Sudan.
    Dear Presidency Kiir, remember if you fail to tackle this problem urgently and successfully, you will see tomorrow will be your turn. President Bashir and Vice Dr. Riek Machar have just put a sharp knife on your throat; it’s just a matter of time to cut. Always learn from Dr.John Garang de Mabior’s Plane crash accident.

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    • 7 December 2009 14:02, by okucu pa lotinokwan

      The arrest of these two generals H.E Secretary general of the SPLM/A Mr Pagan Amum and his deputy H.E Mr Yasir Arman by the NCP party the criminal Party in sudan show that,the NCP party are not ready for the implementation of the CPA,let the whole world be ware of, specail to the countries who put their signitory on the CPA document.Your H.E Mr Salva Kiir Maryadit,prepared.Let those Arabs who do not one day hear the sound of big guns,this time they will know what death look like,2.5 million people die in the south sudan for 21years war, but 2.5 million people is going to die in the north sudan for 8 hours war.May almighty father bless Yasir Arman and wishing him short covery from the injury,the criminal party attempt on him

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  • 7 December 2009 15:57, by Time1

    Thanks to NCP for burrying the Unity of Sudan, i wonder which of NCP members will ever visit south sudan again after this event, am sure he will be put in prison in someway or another.

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  • 7 December 2009 16:29, by Joseph

    Pagan, Yasir and other it’s good that you are release. If any of you killed by NCP that would be the end of this country and could be like Iraq within two day wile Bashire could be with ICC by tomorrow. Thank God you are out from those criminal hands; continue straggle for the implementation of CPA. If they kill you we consider you as hero of this movement.

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    • 7 December 2009 17:03, by Wende Yongaptheeth

      It is pretty clear what the NIF intentions are.

      The NIF wants Sudan to go back to war as they are war-mongering in Darfur and this war will start right there in Khartoum because if the SPLM and other parties dignitaries are humiliated like that and the SPLM has 6000 troops and tanks in Khartoum, what do you expects. Khartoum will be torn down and left in a blaze of fire ball with Al Beshir handcuff to the Hague.

      It is also clear now that slaves such as Gatwech, Kim Deng and Ja’alyeen tribalist and islamic extremist and terrorist Mohamed Ali are against the CPA and the Sudanese people. If these tribalists die-hard could not see What commander Yasser Arman and Cdr Pagan Amum Okech did to save Sudan and free its people from NIF monster and inddicted war criminal who is wanted World wide Al Beshir, then they do not see anything.

      To All Southerners, Gatwech,Kim Deng and Rambang are arabs masquerades as Southerners and that is their true identities.

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      • 7 December 2009 17:42, by kalkada

        To Busta2

        Gatweck

        Mel masa

        Mohammmed Ali

        Oduck

        for your knowledge all Sudanese have right to express their frustrations and a feeling of dissatisfaction about NCP/NIF

        don’t look inside the box, rather look out side the box, because from your comment, you sound limited mind.

        open your eyes and look beyond the tribalism, outside the understanding of the past.

        Mohammed Ali after this incident you are still talking about ballot boxes, no relationship between dictorship and ballot boxes, for your knowledge there are relationship between democracy and ballot boxes.

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  • 7 December 2009 17:24, by Ben-Fu

    THE AFRICAN TALIBANS DOING THEIR TRICKS AGAINST,
    BASHIR IS SHAKING IN HIS BOOTS SO HE IS STIRRING UP TROUBLE BEFORE HE IS HANDCAGED. DEVIL MONSTERS WILL NEVER LEARN FROM THE HISTORY. HE WILL GET WHAT HE WANT TOO SOON, HELL.

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  • 7 December 2009 18:08, by demellow

    Its one of the times we need them most, Release them..

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    • 7 December 2009 18:31, by kalkada

      To Busta2

      Gatweck

      Mel masa

      Mohammmed Ali

      Oduck

      hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah, Sudan releases Pagan Amum and Yasir Arman
      to all NCP/NIF supporters, who act childish now?
      al bashir, Nafi ali nafi, Osman taha and to all who expresses submission, recognizance, or debt to NCP/NIF you are childish,and ignorant you are lacking knowledge or information you don’t have vision.

      thank you

      Long live freedom fighters

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      • 7 December 2009 19:24, by Aturjok

        Gatwech,

        You’re a stun support of upcoming election in Sudan however; it’s illogic to stand behind this idea when the election laws are not even passed. Where is your sense? The reason Pagan Amum when for a protest is a result of NIF/NCP refusal to pass the election laws. Without these laws, a sensible person cannot keep throwing around the blames without asking him/her self about the irregularities unless if they just want to distort the truth.

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    • 7 December 2009 20:47, by Maruon Ayiei

      Dictatorship.

      The key feature of dictators is that they stand above the rule of law and the political process. They reflect many different ideologies, from the extreme to extreme and hold ruthless determination tp organize and control the nation they lead, some like Stalin and Al Bashir cause the death of millions.

      The head of a millitary coup may become a dictator, simply because of the rigid chain of command and the absolute nature of military discipline, preventing a challage to established authority as in the case of present-day Sudan.

      Historically, dictators have generally come to power in situations which required decisive political action. The NCP has all those element of pose dictatorship still after signing of the CPA.

      The NCP has played a political ideology in Sudan since their inception to power in 1989. They restrict freedom and democracy, they followed Islamic tradition of sharia law in quest for justic and they reject personal and national development for all Sudanese.

      The arrest of SG and his deputy, Pagan Amum and Yasir Arman is nothing short of intimidation of free of expression. The person who order the arrest of those high figure is totally an indication of behind scene work of NCP. The proxies of Al Bashir in current political tide and the political threat that is possed by the SPLM is more real and is feared to create a weakeness to NCP by NCP hockies.

      One of the problem to all this is the way President Kiir will handle the situation. It is a political move by NCP junkies to drag the SPLM into rage which is not political beneficial to all marginalized people of Sudan particularily the Southerners.

      Pagan and Yasir are high figure and will not be mistreated at the hand of those ruthless police. so, the question is what pose of danger did they had when they were arrested. In that regard, we want to see the power enshrine to the first Vice President to play the role in this saga created or discovered by NCP.

      To all southerners either a hawk or food lovers, This case is not a fun or rage kind sort but a political one. Those two individual has devoted their time and energy for the cause of each one of us. Dr Martin Luther King has devoted his holy life to civil right in America until his life was abruptly ended in 1968. History is not changed by all society but by people who can forsee need for that change. I congretulate cde Pagan and cde Yasir for their unwaver determination.

      But for some of us, in whose interest do they sacrify themselves if some us are mere absorbed by the Jallaba as you can see on Sudan Tribune Blog? You might make the distinction between us the way we write on this board of whose are absorbed. You can make some analysis in term of freedom of gees or human. Again thank to Pagan and Yasir for thier commitment to fair and democratic transformation in Sudan.

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      • 8 December 2009 00:09, by Wende Yongaptheeth

        Muslims Brotherhoods and Islamic terrorism is back in Sudan.

        The Talaban of Africa called NIF masquerading as NCP is using its old tactics of intimidations, threats, harrassment and arbitrary arrest of opposition leaders and dignitaries.

        Death to the NCP/NIF and Talaban of Africa. Infidels who have defiled Islam. It is a secret duty of the Sudanese People to arrest these criminals such as AL Beshir and his gangs that follows him.

        Death to the Talaban of Africa. They will die like the Talaban of Afghanistan.

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        • 8 December 2009 00:41, by the Voices of a losts

          you fuck head idiot on the web take its easy OOOK>>???????????

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  • 8 December 2009 01:54, by AUGUSTINO DENG

    If the Khartoum Government arrested the SG of the SPLM Mr Pagan Amuom and Yasir Arman, then what did SPLM/SPLA is waiting for? I hope maybe this is just a bias being stratefied by those thirsty bloody people who always want the SPLM/SPLA party to be in no figure.

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    • 8 December 2009 02:23, by john king mense

      I will blame Pagan for his messing up everythings the position which he is in now is not easy position, Pagan must to take caution otherwise he can be killedd simple, If Pagan will be killed no one will go back to war because of this man who called himself to be popular of the south sudan,Iam happy for his arrest of this man trouble maker .The CPA was already been implemented there is no need of creating problems let us wait upcoming election in 2011 whether to be united or form our own country.

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      • 8 December 2009 03:25, by Maroor Bai

        Pagan Amum and Yasir Arman are real people. Real men suffered for their freedom no matter what circumstances could be! I solute these HEROES for their Stand. Real freedom fighters don’t care about thing even if it takes their own life. You are brave to stand for your rights and rights of all marginalized Sudanese people. It is turning point in the history of Sudan and you have sent a very strong message to IDOITS NIF!

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  • 8 December 2009 08:34, by Africano

    Pagan Amum is a failed son of Amum Okech who pose himself a leader communist in SPLM. He messing up SPLM and will soon retire to his home in Califoria USA. Yasir Arman is a well known criminal and communist. It is shamefull that SPLM has these thugs as their leaders.

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    • 13 December 2009 14:30, by understanding

      That is really big crime to arrested the leaders without the reason arresting them!!.how the fuck the government going to improving.

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      • 13 December 2009 14:31, by understanding

        ?? ??????? ?? ????? ??? ??????? ???? ?? ??? ??? ????? ?????!. ??????? ???? ????? ????? ?? ??????? ?????? ??? ?????.

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