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Jonglei voter registration not affected by insecurity – official

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By Philip Thon Aleu

November 23, 2009 (BOR) – The chairman of Jonglei state National Electoral Commission (NEC) says Monday that voter registration “has not been affected” by insecurity threats aiming to sabotage the process.

Ajang Alaak, the head of the NEC in Jonglei told the press in his office, however that voter registration per day is low and the transport of registrars remains a big challenge in the restive province.

At least 5 people have been killed and 5 children abducted over the weekend in Bor County which hosts the capital of Jonglei state. Mr. Alaak’s comment comes at a time where security situation at Bor villages remains tense following attack by armed men in different locations last week.

“The registration process has not being affected. There is no big threat,” Mr. Alaak responded when asked whether the voter exercise faces some shortcoming from insecurity build-up in areas surrounding Bor town. The attackers aim to “to disturb elections [due 2010] but we shall not allow,” them to do that Mr. Alaak further said.

At least 690,000 legible voters are expected to be registered in Jonglei according to the 5th 2008 National Census results. NEC officials consider a substantial number of voters will be registered with at least 51% voters within the reach.

Visiting some registration centers on Saturday, a voter registrar told the Sudan Tribune that his center has being registering over 100 people a day but the figure is now diminishing dropping to 83 on Friday. Other centers, however only managed to register 50 people per day as the highest turn-over since November 1.

On the other hand, voter registrars transport has remain a big concern alongside insecurity in Jonglei state. Mr. Alaak says that there is no sufficient funds but “we are managing to do with the little hoping that money will come.”

Voters’ registration for the Sudan’s April 2010 elections began on November 1 all over the country and set to end on November 30.

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  • 24 November 2009 02:57, by The Living Witness

    Well.. let them vote wisely next time then, so that the swampy ecosystem of theirs may damn accomondate them. These guyz are never ashame of seeking refuge in states within south sudan with thier backwardness.

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    • 24 November 2009 03:15, by thieleling

      Dear brothers & sisters,

      people should smell a rat , a real BIG rat in Jonglei State. The first post-election violence would be in Jonglei State. This is because Governor Kuol and his accomplices are working to rig the gubernatorial election in favor of Bor-Dinka as the next governor of Jonglei State. Dinka-Bors would steal the election at broad daylight. There is no shame with these people eventhough they know it is the invitation of violence to Bortown.

      It is very hard to trust a snake of that nature in Jonglei. Look at the lies: "voter registration “has not been affected” by insecurity threats aiming to sabotage the process".-Ajang Alaak. But 5 people have been killed and 5 children abducted? And there is no big problem? G-d helps Jonglei!! But the election results would be affected by a slight violence break-out, trust me except the election turn-out in Bor-North, Bor-south & Duk(lying Bors would say).

      Therefore, the election day would be decided by the 3 greater Bor-counties. Wait & see the April 11, 2010. You will see what I am talking about!! The nature of the lawless Jonglei with its headquarter in Bortown would be south sudan’s worst anarchy!!

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      • 24 November 2009 04:05, by Dinka Boy

        Dear Thieling,

        I hate people who just talk nonesene.
        My friend Thieling, fighting is the welcome behaviors in our society. Fighting is a game like soccer, basketball, restling. Nobody fear death or any kinds in the South and that is why we fought the war without jumping up and down.

        My Thieling, why are you talking too much like lady.
        We don,t talk too much other it will make you usless.
        I did not get what you talking about in your comments because all in your medulla is tribalist.
        See the article is about the vote registration ,yet you turn it to be aganist Governor Kuol Manayang.

        My friend the governship will not be taken by force, it will be democratic handover.
        You always mention that the problem will start in Bortown that start it why complaint.

        Your are stupid nuer born who was born empty and will die empty.
        Man watch out other you will encounter the danger because the wound is not yet erase among ourselves.
        Thanks

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        • 24 November 2009 05:37, by Gatwech

          Thieleling,

          You are correct. I personally don’t expect any thing fair coming out from the minority imposed rulers of Jonglei state. However, it is very good that it is Kuol Manyang and his tribal kins that will drag Jonglei into whatever it will soon like. History will blame them forever. Meanwhile they will lose that stolen power.

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        • 24 November 2009 05:55, by thieleling

          Dinka Boy & Door,

          Dinkas specially the Bor-Dinkas need lessons in tolerance.
          If the Dinkas are to live in harmony with other south sudanese and seek cooperative solutions to these conflicts, the self-fish Dinkas need to accept diversity and stop prejudging other south sudanese based on Dinka-tribalism.

          The problem is that Dinkas do not understand what diversity is based on their childhood teachings because there are no diversity in Dinkalands. Other south sudanese are full of diversity and accepting others because they are well-taught in accepting humanity. Dinka life without tribalism is almost unheard of in south sudan. How can one be fair and just without being fair and just himself/herself?

          TRUST ME!! we know the truth & we are just and fair people. We can see far enough that the tribalized Dinkas could not see. As south sudanese, we need to focus more on our common humanity than on our differences. But other south sudanese need to help teach the Dinkas what tolerance is first. Then, everything would be alright.

          Others do not practice tribalism, they only react to Dinkas tribalism. If Dinkas learn from the best democratic tribes in south sudan, then south sudanese will live in harmony forever. Think about it, Dinkas can learn tolerance and civilized practices of accepting diversity. How hard is that?

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          • 24 November 2009 06:56, by Dinka Boy

            Thieliny and Gatwecn,

            The peace will not come with you guys unlse your greedy style stop in the entire Southern Sudan.

            According to Dinka Society, peace is the fundamental lesson taught to the toddlor or children. The greater Muonjang( Dinka) never attack neighbors, we called it a sin and disrespectful of humanity,and if someone caught while attacking neighbors then he will be seriously punished and be regarded as the usless person in the society
            That is the reason why their are no single Dinka attacking their neighbors ever since;Though, we react and revenge after the attack period or aggression.

            We go with leadership style without being the greedy, and we listen when people have guinine relevants reasons,but we don,t listen through noise.

            Dear brothers, put in mind that Arab-North are gone, and iam sure there is no other obstacles that will make our civilians or innocent people be killed any more in our absence in the region.

            Please do the good things that will make South unit but never ever talk aganist Dinka in general.

            I am happy that we will be facing one direction not like previously when we face two enemies( Arab and the foe in the South).

            Our enemy must watchout at the moment because this not the Dinka of the past.
            Thanks

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      • 24 November 2009 06:38, by Awumtiai

        This discussion board has done great things, for the first

        time probably in the beginning of this year when I first

        met writings of these gentlemen: Logic-Boy, James James

        and Thieling, I was just saying what the heck is going on here?

        London was on merciless fire! But, now they can write pretty well.

        Keep it up boys you have learnt something.

        The discussion has done it! It has shaped you wonderfully.

        I am just being honest with you, if any of you think I am

        being ridicules; visit your previous writing.

        Awumtiaidit:

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  • 24 November 2009 03:14, by thieleling

    Dear brothers & sisters,

    people should smell a rat , a real BIG rat in Jonglei State. The first post-election violence would be in Jonglei State. This is because Governor Kuol and his accomplices are working to rig the gubernatorial election in favor of Bor-Dinka as the next governor of Jonglei State. Dinka-Bors would steal the election at broad daylight. There is no shame with these people eventhough they know it is the invitation of violence to Bortown.

    It is very hard to trust a snake of that nature in Jonglei. Look at the lies: "voter registration “has not been affected” by insecurity threats aiming to sabotage the process".-Ajang Alaak. But 5 people have been killed and 5 children abducted? And there is no big problem? G-d helps Jonglei!! But the election results would be affected by a slight violence break-out, trust me except the election turn-out in Bor-North, Bor-south & Duk(lying Bors would say).

    Therefore, the election day would be decided by the 3 greater Bor-counties. Wait & see the April 11, 2010. You will see what I am talking about!! The nature of the lawless Jonglei with its headquarter in Bortown would be south sudan’s worst anarchy!!

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    • 24 November 2009 03:33, by DOOR

      Thieleling,

      Stop fearing your masters, the great Dinka.
      The election for governorship in 2011 will be fair except of the fact that " No leader is yet born among Nuer".
      That will be the area of weakness that will give Kuol a second chance to rule.
      Leadership is not attained by those who are chaotic and fond of formenting anarchy.

      You must start organising yourselves if you are to lead in the near future.

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      • 24 November 2009 03:56, by H5N1

        looters! your leadership is a mess and yet you are here covering up your idiotic acts. Dinka community (especially Bor) are made up of fools such as yourself and this mentally retarded Kual Manyang. nobody will ever trust your leadership. what u have just said here only apply to your community. how many times have your community involved in a brawl with other southern communities? and yet you are failing here to accept the facts claiming that you got leadership styles? what a weird community?
        bunches of morons!

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      • 24 November 2009 05:23, by thieleling

        Doar,

        Jonglei’s governorship was undemocratically selected by a Dinka leadership for the last five years. So, Jonglei governorship was selected on the basis of tribal line. And that was how Philip Thon Leek & Kuol Manyang both Dinka-Bor became governors of Jonglei for the last five years. It was not through organization, but definitely was through tribal basis. See what the Dinkas can do without Democratic Nuers checking them?

        Thanks God there are democratic Nuers & other non-Dinkas ethnic groups in south sudan. Otherwise, everything would be corruptions, anarchy, greed, thievery if everything is left to Dinkas in south sudan.

        Therefore, I understand if you are proud of Dinka tribalism on that perspective. It is the Dinka way of ruling. Let see if this bankrupted, undemocratic Dinkas behaviors would be carried toward the election day comes April 11, 2009. It is public knowledge Dinkas are not ashamed of how they corrupted, polarized and tribalized south sudan governance in Jonglei & the whole south sudan in the Interim period. Tell the truth!! The anarchy and corruptions are Dinka’s making in Jonglei & the south.

        I personally don’t believe the upcoming election would be possible. I have my own reasons. Other obvious reasons are that, the SPLM has yet to nominate its candidates and that exposes its incompetence and disorganization. Write this down: Dinkas will not get away with anything comes April 11, 2010. TRSUT ME!! That is the red line!! Believe it or else...................

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        • 24 November 2009 05:41, by Dinka Boy

          Dear brothers and Sisters,

          Can someone tell me the name of stupid individual who write shiit last month that Thieling is the only person who can not talk on tribal line.

          I encouarge that person to prevail him self today if he is the man so that i can tell him something fantastic.
          Thieling is the Nyagat of Riek Machar who want the governoship to be divide like rations.

          This is leadership, it should not be distributed like food in the refugee camp dear.
          Go some where and compliant this is Dinka leadership.
          Thanks

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  • 24 November 2009 03:15, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

    Good news that things are progressing in some good conditions. Insecurity is nothing and can be crook just in week if leaders are capable of stopping this sickness of insecurity, having well trained police to partrol the hostile borders will bring insecurity under control.

    My advice to Mr reporter Thon to stop some of misleading information in this site, yesterday but once he point his fingers straight to the murle, yesterday he uses some of his peoples’ Wal and Alier to justified his attitude toward other people. Lastly but not the list today he intend to refer that the attacked was carried in all direction "armed men in different locations" according to such claims which will be truth and which is not? I think people like this journalist should attend further training in order to work proffessional.

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  • 24 November 2009 03:49, by Dinka Boy

    Thanks Mr. Ajang Alaak for the update of vote registration in Jonglei State.

    The insecurity in the area must and should not be ignore because that is how innocent people always lost their lives unnoticeably.

    The youth must post themselves in the affected areas in the greater Bor territories to watch the aggression from the criminals intended to sabatage the registration process across the state of Jonglei.

    The criminals who abduct children are already known and intentatively from Murle who have no tangible understanding of the meaning of Sudan or the reason we fought the North-South War.

    I agree that insecurity is there,but it will not affect the vote registration ;though, it should be secretely monitored.
    Thanks

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    • 24 November 2009 03:57, by Prophet Alexander

      STOP AND READ!!!

      Dear Southerners,

      A government is a well organised people of that country, working together for the common good of all people. They have the power, the wealth, the means, and the resources of that country to help its all people to live a better life in this bad world.

      Why some people are at war while others are in peace?
      Why some people are living in unity while others are divided?
      Why some people are dying young while others live long life?
      Why some people are hungry while others are throwing foods away?
      Why some people are rich while others are poor?
      Why some people are well educated while others are illiterate?
      Why some people have knowledge while others are foolish?
      Why some people are happy while others are crying?
      Why some people are honest while others are corrupt?
      Why some people are suffering while others are enjoying life?
      Why some people are healthy while others are sick?
      Why some people are good and kind while others are evil and cruel?
      Why some people love while others are very wild?
      Why some people are keeping the laws while others do not want?
      Why some people have democracy while others are dictatorship?
      Why some people love themselves while others hate themselves?
      Why some people respect human life while others are killing and destroying life?
      Why some people are first class while others are second class?
      Why some people love God while others do not?
      Is there no one who will help people of Africa?

      My question is when will discrimination, division, lawlessness. Anti human life, bribery, favouritism, cheating, injustice, unfairness, inequality, hatred, jealousy, selfishness, anger stop in your and my life? Think about it!!

      Oh my God Jesus, my God, my God, my God, how long will sufferings, pains and death continue to rule this world? Why did you allow SATAN and the DEVIL to live in human hearts? Oh my God, how long, it is too long Lord Jesus!!!

      Here what my Lord Jesus says, “BUT MARK THIS: THERE WILL BE TERRIBLE TIMES IN THE LAST DAYS. PEOPLE WILL BE LOVERS OF THEMSELVES, LOVERS OF MONEY, BOASTFUL, PROUD, ABUSIVE, DISOBEDIENT TO THEIR PARENTS, UNGRATEFUL, UNHOLY, WITHOUT SELF-CONTROL, BRUTAL, NOT LOVERS OF THE GOOD, TREACHEROUS, RASH, CONCEITED, LOVERS OF PLEASURE RATHER THAN LOVERS OF GOD-HAVING A FORM OF godliness BUT DENYING ITS POWER, HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SUCH PEOPLE (2Tim.3:1-5)”.

      Are you among these people? Jesus loves you so much, He suffered pain for you, was beaten and wounded, despised and rejected, He was oppressed and afflicted, insulted and tortured, abused and nailed on the tree and he died a shameful death of a criminal. He was buried and He rose again so that you may love people, forgive them and endure suffering. His empty tomb is our hope, His wounds and blood is our life. Give your life to Him NOW; you will be free from your sins. He loves you and will come again to take you home.

      Thank you. Let us all unite and vote for the Independent of South Sudan NOW!!!

      Alexander.

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    • 24 November 2009 04:01, by Mathonbor

      Mr. Logic,

      Stop accussing Philip Thon of making things up, he just reports the news. He does not make up any thing. His job is to report exactly what he hard or seen. How do you know he is not reporting the truth and you are not in Bortown? The man is doing his job and he is doing it well.

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      • 24 November 2009 04:39, by Aduol Liet

        Thon Aleu.

        It sound good for the people of Jonglei State and perhaps, for the people of Southern Sudan as a whole. Let many others States trying their best to do so but I am sure that, Southern Sudanese people are ready for theirs esparation although the National Congress Party are trying to divide Southern Sudanese’s Communities to bitter neighbiorhoods relationship we will pervial Southern Sudan independence and with many others Regions in Sudan will joins Southern Sudanese.

        In addition to that, we would like to tell all Southerners Sudan’s politicians to look again the real Sudan Map of the Sudan and try to rethink if the Sudan country will going to have two Maps and two countries equally Map is needed. The real Southern Sudan Map will start from Western Darfuri Line to El Obeld, Line up to Kosti and Gedaref one this is real Map Southern Sudan want to have it if the Sudan divid to two countries. Southern Kordfan and Blue Nile are all needed to be inside Southern Sudan country.

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        • 24 November 2009 04:43, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

          Mathoribor

          If you saw a man and u describe it as a woman what do u think the rest of people will think about u? we cannot relay on unprofessional skills. According to this type person he has many choice to fix his problems, one is to see an optometrist to assess him to buy the right lenses or see an ophthalmologist straight away. It is stupid if u interpret a Mundari to be dinkas just becuase of their facial mark. My solution is simply to your reporter, attend further training or get the real facts.

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    • 24 November 2009 04:18, by Prophet Alexander

      STOP AND READ !!!

      Dear Southerners,

      A government is a well organised people of that country, working together for the common good of all people. They have the power, the wealth, the means, and the resources of that country to help its all people to live a better life in this bad world.

      Why some people are at war while others are in peace?
      Why some people are living in unity while others are divided?
      Why some people are dying young while others live long life?
      Why some people are hungry while others are throwing foods away?
      Why some people are rich while others are poor?
      Why some people are well educated while others are illiterate?
      Why some people have knowledge while others are foolish?
      Why some people are happy while others are crying?
      Why some people are honest while others are corrupt?
      Why some people are suffering while others are enjoying life?
      Why some people are healthy while others are sick?
      Why some people are good and kind while others are evil and cruel?
      Why some people love while others are very wild?
      Why some people are keeping the laws while others do not want?
      Why some people have democracy while others are dictatorship?
      Why some people love themselves while others hate themselves?
      Why some people respect human life while others are killing and destroying life?
      Why some people are first class while others are second class?
      Why some people love God while others do not?
      Is there no one who will help people of Africa?

      My question is when will discrimination, division, lawlessness. Anti human life, bribery, favouritism, cheating, injustice, unfairness, inequality, hatred, jealousy, selfishness, anger stop in your and my life? Think about it!!

      Oh my God Jesus, my God, my God, my God, how long will sufferings, pains and death continue to rule this world? Why did you allow SATAN and the DEVIL to live in human hearts? Oh my God, how long, it is too long Lord Jesus!!!

      Here what my Lord Jesus says, “BUT MARK THIS: THERE WILL BE TERRIBLE TIMES IN THE LAST DAYS. PEOPLE WILL BE LOVERS OF THEMSELVES, LOVERS OF MONEY, BOASTFUL, PROUD, ABUSIVE, DISOBEDIENT TO THEIR PARENTS, UNGRATEFUL, UNHOLY, WITHOUT SELF-CONTROL, BRUTAL, NOT LOVERS OF THE GOOD, TREACHEROUS, RASH, CONCEITED, LOVERS OF PLEASURE RATHER THAN LOVERS OF GOD-HAVING A FORM OF godliness BUT DENYING ITS POWER, HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH SUCH PEOPLE (2Tim.3:1-5)”.

      Are you among these people? Jesus loves you so much, He suffered pain for you, was beaten and wounded, despised and rejected, He was oppressed and afflicted, insulted and tortured, abused and nailed on the tree and he died a shameful death of a criminal. He was buried and He rose again so that you may love people, forgive them and endure suffering. His empty tomb is our hope, His wounds and blood is our life. Give your life to Him NOW; you will be free from your sins. He loves you and will come again to take you home. Vote for the Independent and Freedom of South Sudan NOW. Thank you.

      Alexander.

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  • 24 November 2009 05:26, by thieleling

    Doar,

    Jonglei’s governorship was undemocratically selected by a Dinka leadership for the last five years. So, Jonglei governorship was selected on the basis of tribal line. And that was how Philip Thon Leek & Kuol Manyang both Dinka-Bor became governors of Jonglei for the last five years. It was not through organization, but definitely was through tribal basis. See what the Dinkas can do without Democratic Nuers checking them?

    Thanks God there are democratic Nuers & other non-Dinkas ethnic groups in south sudan. Otherwise, everything would be corruptions, anarchy, greed, thievery if everything is left to Dinkas in south sudan.

    Therefore, I understand if you are proud of Dinka tribalism on that perspective. It is the Dinka way of ruling. Let see if this bankrupted, undemocratic Dinkas behaviors would be carried toward the election day comes April 11, 2009. It is public knowledge Dinkas are not ashamed of how they corrupted, polarized and tribalized south sudan governance in Jonglei & the whole south sudan in the Interim period. Tell the truth!! The anarchy and corruptions are Dinka’s making in Jonglei & the south.

    I personally don’t believe the upcoming election would be possible. I have my own reasons. Other obvious reasons are that, the SPLM has yet to nominate its candidates and that exposes its incompetence and disorganization. Write this down: Dinkas will not get away with anything comes April 11, 2010. TRSUT ME!! That is the red line!! Believe it or else...................

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    • 24 November 2009 05:51, by Gatwech

      Thieleling,

      You are right. Without the Nuer and other democratic ethnic groups in the South, the Dinka would have declared South Sudan their kingdom since 2005. But we have been doing our best to neutralize their ambtions while we carry them to their retirement soon. Imagine a group of people without sense or feeling of shame. Even in Upper Nile state where the Nuer population is so dominant, we make sure that the Speaker of parliament goes to other tribes if we have the governor. But for our shameless cousins, they don’t have such feeling. Even if you give them the posts of all the ten states, they will receive and occupy them with arrogance without shame. Some body from Equatoria told me that it is obvious God would never give independence to South Sudan under their top leadership. I tend to agree as we wait for 2011.

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      • 24 November 2009 07:21, by thieleling

        Gatwech,

        Some of our Dinkas cousins are saying the next GOSS President and Jonglei governor would both be from Dinkas, whether by forces or democracy...... I simply laugh so much because the greedy/Murimiin Dinka-Bors do not know gluttony is a sin even from the Bible. Squealing is dangerous. I really feel bad about our Dinka cousins because they have no sense of shame.

        First, I think the Nuers have to help teach the Dinkas tolerance before teaching democratic them behaviors. There are Murle, Nuers, anuak besides Dinka-Bor in Jonglei and our greedy Dinkas cousins think the whole state belongs to Dinkas. You are right. The Nuers have to put it to end in Jonglei & the whole south sudan. The worst is that, Dinkas consider tribalism as intelligence. They thought they are outwitting or cheating others non-Dinkas in leadership.

        Kiir & Kuol do not feel ashamed of keeping Dinka-Bor minority in power on the basis of Dinka-triblalism. There is no way a Dinka can win in Jonglei gubernatorial election through democracy or forces. This is because most of the Jonglei consituencies do not trust Dinka leadership anymore. The same goes with south sudanese nation.

        No one trusts Dinka leaders because they are only good at leading through Dinka political bankruptcy, corruptions, thievery and beyond. Now, again; they thought corruptions is being intelligence, cunning, manipulative, or outsmarting non-Dinkas in ruling.

        I am afraid our Dinka cousins would find their ugly fate after it is too late. The best way for forward for any sane Dinkas thinkers is to learn tolerance, diversity & democratic behaviors from Nuers & other non-Dinkas tribes in south sudan. There is no way forward for Dinka ignorance and no way other south sudanese would live in harmony with prejudice Dinkas in south sudan.

        The truth is that, there would not be a Dinka governor in Jonglei or south sudan president in 2010 whether election comes or not. There is no need to even entertain this idea.

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  • 24 November 2009 05:42, by Gatwech

    Dear readers,

    Judge for yourself the tribal make up of Jonglei government. The Dinka minority in the state who constitute only 15% of their true population if you count them in their few scattered villages are in charge of the state. Salva Kiir did it for them! Jonglei state Governor is Dinka, Speaker of the state Parliament is Dinka and now the Chairman of the Elections Committee in the state is also a Dinka. Wow! What a lucky minority during this messing up period!

    I personally don’t expect any thing fair coming out from the minority imposed rulers of Jonglei state. However, it is very good that it is Kuol Manyang and his tribal kins that will drag Jonglei into whatever it will soon like. History will blame them forever. Meanwhile they will lose that stolen power.

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    • 24 November 2009 05:52, by Mathonbor

      For those of you who think that the next governor of Jonglei will come from other tribe than dinka, think twice. I guarantee you that both president of GOSS and governor of Jonglei will be from Dinka whether democratically elected or by force. Let’s wait and see.

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  • 24 November 2009 05:56, by thieleling

    Dinka Boy & Door,

    Dinkas specially the Bor-Dinkas need lessons in tolerance. If the Dinkas are to live in harmony with other south sudanese and seek cooperative solutions to these conflicts, the self-fish Dinkas need to accept diversity and stop prejudging other south sudanese based on Dinka-tribalism.

    The problem is that Dinkas do not understand what diversity is based on their childhood teachings because there are no diversity in Dinkalands. Other south sudanese are full of diversity and accepting others because they are well-taught in accepting humanity. Dinka life without tribalism is almost unheard of in south sudan. How can one be fair and just without being fair and just himself/herself?

    TRUST ME!! we know the truth & we are just and fair people. We can see far enough that the tribalized Dinkas could not see. As south sudanese, we need to focus more on our common humanity than on our differences. But other south sudanese need to help teach the Dinkas what tolerance is first. Then, everything would be alright.

    Others do not practice tribalism, they only react to Dinkas tribalism. If Dinkas learn from the best democratic tribes in south sudan, then south sudanese will live in harmony forever. Think about it, Dinkas can learn tolerance and civilized practices of accepting diversity. How hard is that?

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    • 24 November 2009 06:14, by ajuscommando2

      Dear readers,

      Those murle people who came and attack villages in Bor land are theift and I’m very sure they are not longer stay around Bor area since Bor Youths went back to the village to see their problems. The vote registration can not be affected by small issues since the youths of this land are present and they agreed to make operation with Murle as they do patrolling day and night. We are not going to pardon any single dogs leave inhuman and mad people who don’t look a head for the freedom of South Sudan. If you found DINKAS doing something against other human being in this world, than make sure it has take centurey with them because we pardon weakness communities but if spirit of revenge came into our heart, than that community will not longer be in peace. DINKAS are peacemakers and without DINKAS peace would have not come to Sudan and we can create you war again and bring peace again, so you think before your action against DINKAS.

      Ajus

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    • 24 November 2009 06:27, by Kim Deng

      Coward Jaang/Slaves,

      You’re damn right to claim the governorship of Jonglei State as "Dinka leadership/Kingdom" since it was not fair and free election rather than apointing/selecting yourselves like a "Kingdom." There is no blame from Mighty Nuer ethnic group who knows how and when to bring down the coward Jaang/Slaves’ Kingdom to its knees.

      Mr. Thon Leek and Mr. Koul Manyang were not elected for the governorship of Jonglei State by the citizens of that State, but Mr. cowboy Salva Kiir appoited them base on his community interests. No hurry, enjoy your limited time until you’re caught by surprise.

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      • 24 November 2009 07:48, by thieleling

        Kim Deng, the historian:

        People who do not know their history are like trees with no roots!! Keep being a great historian, man!!

        Yes, Dinka-Bors are busy launching plans to rig election in favor of Dinka-Bor leader as the next governor of Jonglei, but only to find out soon that is, in another word; destroying the Bor-Dinkas as we know it.

        I know we are arguing with Dinka-Bors idiots here, few smart ones may agree with us that it is up to law abiding, democratic loving citizens, to properly protect freedom and democracy from criminally-controlled Jonglei from Dinka-Bor’s violence crimes & corruptions. Therefore, I do believe you know the very simple unbeatable method to self-defense law abiding citizens from this dangerous Dinka-Bor war mongers and undisputed Jonglei criminals.

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    • 24 November 2009 06:36, by Awumtiai

      This discussion board has done great things, for the first

      time probably in the beginning of this year when I first

      met writings of these gentlemen: Logic-Boy, James James and

      Thieling, I was just saying what the heck is going on here?

      London was on merciless fire! But, now they can write

      pretty well. Keep it up boys you have learnt something.

      The discussion has done it! It has shaped you wonderfully.

      I am just being honest with you, if any of you think I am

      being ridicules; visit your previous writing.

      Awumtiaidit:

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      • 24 November 2009 07:22, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

        Awumtiai

        I think you are on your track, the reason why we were keeping Sudan Tribune on fire was simply, to myself and the rest of concern citizens we are absolutely anti looters, corrupttees, dictator, insecurity, criminals and murders. We have spend decads to liberate ourselves yet after all it seem as we struggled for a particular tribe to abuse the power. Corruption, dictatorship, looting and insecurity are the present culture in the government of sick services. People from a single tribe can get away with $ millions, can kill other tribes, can attack other communities and illiterates can simply get jobs within the govenment, but the government is silent and idle to any of this crimes. As a concern person what do you think we should do about this? do you expect us to watch like a comedy on SSTV. In few months ago the government has tried to set up a fake Anti corruption group with the same corruptess memebers who are behind the daily agony, but nothing has been improved the culture of poor management still in place. Therefore, according to your own imagination how would you describe this type of government. In addition the government of sick services has its goal to be among the African billionares. But i swear this will never happen at my present as a concern citizen. Am pulling myself away from tribal criticism but i expect the government to stop bringing tribal culture into the government. Simply and easy a party should be a party for all and should value its supporters without a shareholder, unlike SPLA with their dictatorship who is dreaming to be a billionare.

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  • 24 November 2009 07:23, by Critic_Ngueny

    Dear readers and writers,

    Would you mind paying attention and listen to Mr.Critic_Ngueny from Bor town?

    I am ready with words of most destruction (WMD) and they are the facts of what is and what was happening in Nuer community and Equatoria.Don,t be surpised to hear such wonderful News from the man of the people though you doubt me.

    The motive why Equatorians are always again Dinka Bor is due to only one reason.According to what I heard from Lado Legge today in Juba university where I always chat with my barking dogs from Equatoria and Nuer community;he told me that before the Sudan people’s liberation movement or Army (SPLM/A) came to Juba,they had been making much money in a way that made me vomit and I am still vomiting now.Both young men and ladies used to signed illegal contract according to Dinka’s customary law as well as African customary law.The contract had to be signed between a man and another man.

    To hit the nail on the head,Equatorains were getting money from Arabs by practicing homosexual which is a crime in Dinkas’land or areas.They thought that Dinkas were going to do the same with them in order to get money.Anyway,they have to go to Khartoum if they are thirsty of money and we shall still get them there with their masters.

    The whole of Nuer community,born or unborn are fond of something to eat and they don,t care about each other.Look at them.Not only that,when you make a mistake to call them "Kuor-midit or beny",tomorrow you will be see him a brigadier.They are fond of leadership.Needless to say but let me remind you ladies and gentlemen.

    Our leaders are born.

    Well done my dear brothers from Dinka Bor.Insecurity is something normal and usual since 1983.So you should not turn deaf ears to whoever trying to scare people in Bor.
    I am very much sure about that if Dinka Bor make up their minds to have their own militia in Bor areas;then the World will suffer leave a lone Sudan.We just ignore things because we are their eyes for they don,t know what they are doing.But remember,a time will come.

    My twenty one days are not respected.

    Critic_Ngueny from Bor town

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  • 24 November 2009 07:25, by J.James

    Mr. Theileling and Gatwech

    I always appreciate your state of fairness by always trying to educate those brothers in an attempt to stop greed and hatred. However, you need to remember also that, using fake majorization, and fake education as a tool is coming to the permenant expiration.

    Dinka is not majority tribe in first place and if we need to get to the reality of the fact. And you guys will believe on what I am saying in the next coming years, because after the election or referendum, I am 100 % sure that the leader who is non-Dinka is going to come to the power. And as result, those small tribes like Jor Chol, Jor Beil, will anounce their detachment from Dinka and will urge the government to recognize them as different tribes, because these tribes, (Jor Chol and Jor Biel) are not completely Dinka, the same goes to Agar and Even Ngok Pan Arou. anyone who have his/her own language as the above tribes should legally remain as different tribe.
    Matter of fact these tribes don’t like Dinka whom theynormally accuse of destroying their tribal norms and heritage intentionally for their own benefit. Indeed, Dinka don’t respect those tribes, and that was the reason why John Okech who was Ambassodor to the United State was removed tegether with Lam Akol. These tribes are only good to give real Dinka a number for big share of whatever is divided, and I know they will break away for sure. But now atleast some of them want to remain sileint to enjoy Dinka tribalism as Dinka for job and to keep them away from Dinka threats.

    For Jongolei, everything is have to Dinka Bor to choose what is best for them, today is different from yesterday, if a black man managed to be in White house as a president of America,than what is next and who is not going to get the same freedom or democracy. Those who weakly think that, Anyuak, Murle, and Lou Nuer will be perpetually cheated are mistaken, Jongolei will either represented fairly and proportionally or one day in God name will be divided into two separate states. Believe it guys.

    Today, Dinka Bor are busy transporting different units of military personel between Bor Murle border through falsified claim that there were cows and goats which had been stolen by Murle, but the truth is that, 1. Dinka Bor are not happy with the forthcoming peace conferent between Lou Nuer and Murle. 2. they are worried about the future since it is election year, the their big worry is Murle and Nuer so they have to make up any story as they can or provok situation as they can for more or may be military attack against Murle or Nuer, but that is a complete failure and it is simply a dream that will not be approached or secured at all.

    Anyway, please let our brothers run here and there, knowing that, Murle and Nuer need peace with Dinka Bor but Dinka Bor always is bothered by the probability that is going to bring equal opportunities to every tribe in the region, Dinka Bor prayers and dreams are to destroy Murle and Nuer so that they will mess everybody as they want, and that will never, never, and never happen till the end of the world, Murle Lou Nuer conferent must continue even if they (Dinka Bor) attack Murle, the peace conferent must continue since we know for sure they will be dealt with accordingly without question or worry. Murle were disarmed and Dinka Bor were not but Murle will still prevail, Murle is not smal tribes like Moro and Mundari, the price people will pay normally will be very great, let them go and try again for the thirth time. NB: Please all Bor boys must stay away from my daughters because if one of you touch them in seductive way, he will pay the price and I meant it. My daughter are beautiful and they are not for Dinka Bor may be dogs could be better.

    I hope that work.

    God bless

    The writer watches tribalists closley.

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    • 24 November 2009 08:00, by Dinka Boy

      Mr J.James,

      I don,t think whether you heard that ahyena share the same house with the goat.

      My friend, you ( Murle) are even closer to Dinka Bor by every aspect of the culture;for instance, there are some Dinkas and Murle who understand each other.
      My friend you always followed the wrong side but Dinka has no problem with you guys at all. You are making noise by yourself and nobody with you.

      Mr James please brother stay away from those narrow minded and be your own destiny, you are creating problem nwteen Dinka and Murle while you are not in the mirror of war.

      Secondly, you made me laugh man. What is in your mind man. You called Jur bel, Jur Chol, Agar ,and Ngok none Dinka.Wow!
      You might have drunk with the raw blood.
      let me remind you that the first and paramount people who will attack you before Dinka are Nuer because they always prefered that we they runout of food.
      Keep that in mind and you will tell me some time on this website.

      Third, Yes the leader can come from non Dinka,but that should be the non-defector, non weak- heart who love slavery.
      We all knows that there are great leaders from Equatorians and murle that can rules ,but they must learn the SPLM leadership style first.

      Someone must vow first before taking this kind of leadership that he will take the full responsibility in which he will not defect and handover our leadership to Arab-North.
      Please watch out,this is not the Dinka who ignore aggression from within.
      Thanks

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      • 24 November 2009 09:06, by wang

        Dinkas are finaly learning from their neighbour Nuers like what Gatwech and others said. I never heard any Dinka using the word FORCES toward Nuer. But this is democracy elections and there is no need to be panic.

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    • 24 November 2009 08:43, by thieleling

      Dear J.James,

      Good and intelligent analysis!!
      You are right on the nail!! This is the basis of Kuol Manyang’s first leadership dishonesty, igniting and triggering a sustained conflict between the Lou Nuer & Murle. Kuol Manyang’s tribal calculation is to kill two birds with one stone. Kill the Murle & Nuers at ago so that the so-called greater Bor-Dinka would then rule Jonglei forever.

      It is very clear to all of us(south sudanese) that Dinka-Bors have a sinister & sinful nature more than any snakes alive today. Now that the truth is known by all south sudan public, there is no way Murle & Lou Nuers will be manipulate into fighting each others by devilish Dinka-Bors. Both Murle & Lou-Nuers are democratic people, practice tolerance, and accept diversity because they know how to live harmoniously with guests among them.

      There is no way they cannot resolve any conflict that arises between them. The Dinka-Bors, and especially Kuol Manyang are not happy about peaceful co-existence between the greater Murle & greater Lou-Nuers. The Bor-Dinkas consider the Nuers/Murle peaceful co-existence as a threat to Bor leadership in Jonglei.

      J.James, many thanks for being alert and conscious about Dinka-Bor’s sinister nature of attempting to divide & rule non-Dinkas in Jonglei. Please stay alert!! We all would alert the conference leaders to watch out for any Dinka-Bors politically-motivated violence on either Murle or Lou-Nuers during the conference. Watch the tribalists very closely Mr. J.James since the distance is very close there.

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    • 24 November 2009 22:53, by Aduol Liet

      J, James.

      Your stupid Ideas of divides Southern Sudanese people will not be accepted and just put in your mind that, we can not stay divide and you probaly want to asking yourself how a long do we want to staying this division of yours.? If you ask one man from an Ethiopia she /he will tell you that I am an Ethiopian and that is all, but they do have more Tribes and it is not matter unfortunately, when you come to see some primitive Tribes in Sudan like your Tribe Murle is the good example and Neur Tribe are second good example, your Ideas are dead one which mean no one will buy your Idiot divide.

      If you are trying to learn how to know some majorities Tribes in Sudan and the Southern Sudan particularly then, you need to take a Sudanese Geography class from there you will know exactly that Dinka are majority in Southern Sudan for real. Those you mention like Jur Chol and Jur Biel are not in Dinka’s population, they are esparates Dinka but they have link with Dinkas as well as Neur doese too.

      You can adress Pig with clothes but it still walk like Pig and you can make sound barking like Dog but you will still shown your asss have no tial as a Dog therefore, you are trying to know more about Dinka majority, but you will still be primitively Murle minority and that will not help you in any way.

      Finally, all Dinka in Upper Nile States are all pure Dinkas as well as the bravers Regions of Bhar al Ghazalan are Dinkas, but we don’t says Jur Chol and Jur Biel are Dinkas even though most people in both sides are loved to speak Dinka language we still call them according to their respectful mothers tongues one. I know that, the Murle people are not known in Sudan’s politics, but take this example that, Dinka people make 14 to 15% population in the Sudan national population and for that reason you will belief it that, Dinkas are really majority and they will make 49% population in Southern Sudan’s population.

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  • 24 November 2009 10:20, by Critic_Ngueny

    Dear reader and writers

    Whoever having a problem with Dinka Bor must be specifice please.We are ready to fight him wherever he or she is.shame on those who don,t write their names in full.

    D square,mother of capital B must be ruling in Sudan whether you like them or not.

    Critic_Ngueny from Bor town

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    • 24 November 2009 11:03, by Deng John Ajang

      That attempt was initiated by anti CPA elements and with time it will change. The government should make sure that civilians are disarmed to reduce such repeatitive attacks.

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  • 25 November 2009 02:33, by J.James

    Aduol Liet or Lee ( find the meaning of lee in Murle first)

    A fool remain a fool though treated in London or New York hospitals. That applied to most of you who file pockets with all colours of pens while writing nothing with them (pens) except words of hate, greed, stealing, and develic conspiracies against others.

    The size of my tribe is fine and we are very containted with it thank God. First of all we are not kind of people who fake the number, or always want to get the biggest dividend of whatever is divided for us to fake our population or talk about it as you thieves do. Murle might be the third or the fourth largest tribes in SouthSudan but we have never talked about it one day because that don’t have very significant reason for singing about it ( population) since all of us are commonly Sudanese or Southerners all tegether. Small tribe, larger tribe largest tribe are all important, so talking about your fake population day and night is just meaningless and foolish.

    Jur Chol and Jur Beil did not want to speak your damn language but they have to speak it for them to survive your brutalities and hatred. Most of them now scared to be called Jur Chol or Jur Beil because the retaliation against those who still want to revive their tribal heritage is normally fatal at that jungle where everybody can animalistically have sex with his own father’s young wife. I see that, most of you are now getting more angrier and angrier as the election approaches or when we tell the truth, but your anger will not save you nor bring anybody closer to you folks.

    You have been running away from democracy, peace and peaceful co-existance with others but you didn’t remember that democracy and rule of law are faster than your tribalistic and blind attitudes against others. Now the time has come and it is just the beginning, the real time for the real panic is still miles away and I think the best think is to stop wasting time and instead try to approach those angry Southerners nicely, yes you better apologize to the Southerners on the corruption you have committed in SouthSudan, killing of civilians as the one in Pibor, Moro land, Nuer areas, Anyuak towns, and for the insult you are always leveling against the Southerners.

    Complaining and denying the truth will not help you but add the pepper hot wild to your open wounds.

    It is true that, most of you include yourself and Dinka bore ( look in dictionary) denied the contribution of the Southerners during the struggle and you falsely claim the CPA as yours, You said one time that, you are the one who brought CPA to the people of SouthSudan who didn’t fight, forgetting to ask yourself if you were really meaning what you said. Ask yourself if those who died during the war were 100% Dinkas.

    I don’t want to forgetting mentioning that, there are very good Dinkas who died and who are still a live but the blocked minded frog eaters like you cann’t give them chance to rule because you know that, these guys will bring democracy for every citizen in SOuthSudan. You normally send those good guys to stay away as ambassadors or teachersetc abroad to stay away from correcting your filthy group from your wrong doings, and you find that those guys are the most educated ones.

    Mr. Aduol, you said Murle are not known in politics, are you serious, which politics? First let me ask you, where were you the wise Dinkas when Anlo-Egytians came to colonized Sudan, where were you when British came and colonized Sudan and simpley when were you when Arab came to Sudan till they took everything in Sudan? answer me, answer me. Did the above powers really coloniz Sudan? if yes, than Dinka were not in the politics too, the same thing to Murle and other tribes, all of us were dumb enough to rescue or compete politically against those occupiers.

    Also don’t talk about primitivity because the word primitive doesn’t mean uneducated person, it is simply something old model, or of old days, and if that is the case, than most of you who went to school and return to Sudan with PhDs while their minds still practice olden hobbies such as tribalism, stealing, lawlessness, greed, sectorianism, and and all those vices are still primitive. In that regard, you are the most primitive animals in the planet.

    Aduol Lee, I don’t want to debate with people who knows nothing rather than themselves because that will return me to be tribalistic lifesytle like them, meanwhile my am here is to share the little I got from God with you in fair and generous manner, and if my work is not appreciated as I have seen from dumbies like you, than I will very soon call it quit so tha I leave you to remain with your pimitivity till you get it handful.

    I hope most of you change to become good citizens who love everybody.

    Please change.

    God bless

    The writer watches tribalists closely.

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