Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration

November 19, 2009 (JUBA) – The state authority of Central Equatoria has resolved to detach from Juba County administration a local Payam administration following the shooting of a Southern Sudan minister in the area.

The minister of Agriculture and Forestry, Dr. Samson Kwaje, was shot on his right shoulder on Sunday as his vehicle in the convoy fell under attack in Wanduruba Payam of Juba County on his way to a neighboring Lainya County.

The ambush left four people dead and five others wounded including the minister.

In an emergency Council of Ministers meeting on Wednesday, Central Equatoria state cabinet resolved to temporarily detach Wanduruba Payam from Juba County administration until the issues that led to the incidence are resolved.

Governor Clement Wani Konga to that effect has issued a decree detaching Wanduruba Payam administration and attaching it directly to the office of the Governor.

The decree explained that the cause of the incidence was a result of power wrangling among politicians in the area, particularly over the dispute of whether or not Wanduruba Payam should remain under Juba County or be annexed to Lainya County.

It revealed that Dr. Samson Kwaje, a Pojulu by tribe, had earlier appealed to the National Elections Commission (NEC) to instead attach Wanduruba Payam to Lainya County in the delimitations of the geographical constituencies.

Some politicians in Juba County especially in the local payam administration are against the move by the minister.

The area is mostly inhabited by Pojulu ethnic group who identify themselves with their community in Lainya County.

The state authorities have pledged to find a peaceful and amicable solution to the dispute in the area.

(ST)

51 Forum messages

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 05:11, by Pee-Funk

Equatorian people should be blame for this horrible shooting on southern Sudan Minister, because those Equatorian are causes of a every single violent going on in southern Sudan. they are not people, they are an animals. Equatorian are nothing but criminal. I don’t know why we have such people in Sudan.

by: mr. P-Funk

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 05:26, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

This issue of Wonduruba delimma has been boiling for times but people seem to ignored until this criminal act. Government was silent even to such minor cases until it has been turned into horrible things. For the long time all the criminal has been recording this issue which result to the recent stupidity. It is obvious that some outsider have taken advantage of this case to kill with Equatorians minister. The Pojulu people alone by themselves will not attempt to kill our Equatorian minsiter but criminal outsider with their attitude of looting, riding cattle, abduction and stealing are the subject. Delimma of county whether be part of Juba or lainya must be solved by the local chift, commissioners and government of CES not outsider coming to kill people. Let CES government deal with the issue.
- Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 05:36, by Gatjang
  
  Logic, that why you are inhuman. The minister was about to be murdered by Equatorian but got bailed out by outsiders.
- Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 05:37, by Dinka Boy
  
  Mr Famious logic boy, If their was no SPLM, our great leader would have died in the hands of your stupid food lovers whom we always liberate when they welcome jalaba to their towns. They are weak heart who does not know what is slavery in their own country. Thanks logic boy
  - Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 06:06, by Gatwech
    
    Just an intelligent thought!
    
    First, it is regrettable if the Pojulu or others in Wonduruba payam carried out the murder mission against minister Samson Kwaje and his accompanying team. This is the first time a senior government official is targeted with the aim to kill since 2005.
    
    However, here is an intelligent thought for those who will investigate the matter. Could it also be possible that somebody or some people somewhere outside Wonduruba local politics took advantage of the minister’s dispute with the locals to kill the minister so that the first suspects are the locals and the real murderer goes away with the crime?
    
    In USA if you warn somebody that I am going to kill you, another criminal who got the message would take advantage of your warning and murder the person you warned so that you the one that gave out the warning becomes the first suspect. The real murderer goes away with the crime because no body would bother to investigate beyond the person who did the warning.
    
    In the case of Samson Kwaje, there is need to investigate the matter beyond Wonduruba politicians. There could be someone somewhere who took advantage of the situation to murder the minister so that it is seen to be a result of the local dispute. Watch out!
    - Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 06:29, by Manyok
      
      Gatwech,
      
      What part of USA do they do what you mentioned in your comment? Maybe I am missing those kinds of events here.
      
      Zechariah Manyok Biar
      - Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 06:57, by Gatjang
        
        Manyok
        
        Gatwech is a lost boy in the USA, who is still learning in the Nuer way of carrying incomplete messages. I am not in the USA but I think Gatwech is wrong. In the US, if you say I will kill you, the guy will called a police on you immediately without wasting time and you will go to jail.
        
        Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 10:44, by Gatwech
        
        Zechariah Manyok Biar,
        
        I thought you are an educated person who gets himself acquainted with the US and the nature of its people’s crimes. I pity Gatjang for being uninformed person in the village.
        
        But for you Manyok, try it one day to warn some body that you will kill him if the police will not hunt for you in the US. But do you know why the police is sensitive about such a warning? It is because of two reasons: 1/ You may mean it to kill the person. 2/ The police know that you are pre-emptying the killing of the person by any other criminal.
        
        I learnt two cases about this nature in the US. A person shouted against another fellow in a crowd that he would not live to see the next day. A criminal in the crowd took the matter into his own hands, followed the warned man and killed him. During the investigations the witnesses who were standing when the other guy told the victim that he would not live to see the next day told the police about the story. The police arrested the guy who made the warning. It took six months before the real killer was known. He confessed that he killed the man for fun because he was already condemned to death by the other guy.
        
        Manyok, don’t just lock yourself in that missionary self-container apartment. Acquaint yourself with the US and its environment. There are alot of things you will miss and never learn from. So it is true that somebody would attack Dr. Samson Kwaje knowing that the suspect would be the people he has involved in dispute with over Wonduruba. Be an intelligent investigator!
        
        Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 15:59, by Manyok
        
        Gatwech,
        
        Saying that people are not educated as you think will not make them illiterate. I know you are aware of that. You may give us your credentials, showing us your expertise in grading educated people. I do not regard myself as more educate, anyway. But calling me names will not stop me from asking you to specify your point. You may know more than I do because what you are saying might have happened where you live in the USA.
        
        I do not disagree with the point that police do arrest those who threaten others here because, as you correctly put it, they may mean it to kill the person. But you need to specify the points you made in this paragraph, if you want us to debate it.
        
        "In USA if you warn somebody that I am going to kill you, another criminal who got the message would take advantage of your warning and murder the person you warned so that you the one that gave out the warning becomes the first suspect. The real murderer goes away with the crime because no body would bother to investigate beyond the person who did the warning."
        
        You mentioned in your second comment that you know two cases that you are talking about. That is great. What I want to know is the state or states that those cases took place, and when? You may also provide me with case numbers so that I can go straight to the cases to be convinced that I am really locked up in ministry container. If the case numbers are difficult to get, then provide me with the name of the court that dealt with those cases. I have a way of tracking those things down here in my mission container.
        
        Zechariah Manyok Biar
        
        Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 16:16, by Gatjang
        
        Gatwech I am a villager and know better than your punky ass. You better bring your ass back to Sudan. Thank God Nuer goes to USA and came back primitive like Dr. Riek with small brain. You might be one of those Nuer I heard living on the streets of Nebraska.
        
        Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 18:09, by Dakbai
        
        Dear readers, Why are you distorting the right suggestion from Gatwech. We all know, Whenever the incident happened,it has to be investigated in different ways and all angles of suspect need to be considered. Who can deny the fact that some politicians might have participated in this hideous act. Please let be open minded and see carefully who carried out this criminal act. The assassin might be from Pojulu, or other interested politician who want to benefit from this incident. So i welcome any suggestion that will lead to proper investigation of the crimes. So please brothers especially Manyok and Gatjang,appreciate Gatwech for his suggestion.
        
        Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 18:28, by Manyok
        
        Dakbai,
        
        We are not against the suggestion that the assassination attempt on Dr. Kwaje be investigated widely. I support that. You may go back and read what we want to know from Gatwech. His cheap propaganda is morally wrong, because he is distorting American system in order to make bogus point that has nothing to do with the investigation of Dr. Kwaje’s assassination attempt.
        
        That is our point, brother. It is a crime to distort other nations’ systems. Gatwech does not know that.
        
        Zechariah Manyok Biar
        
        Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 20:14, by Gatwech
        
        Zechariah Manyok Biar,
        
        Your usual assumption that you know the American system better than any body else is a pure lie. My friend, according to your information on the scholarship that brought you to US, you came to USA five years after I have already been living in the US. Stop that!
        
        This wrong assumption misled you to comment irrelevant issues on elections last time. You did not even know that primaries are always done in USA to choose party nominees. This is the same mistake you are now repeating. Stop that arrogance on wrong assumption. Being a church goer doesn’t qualify you to know every US system. I am also a frequent church goer plus learning many other things. Please Mr. New Comer, calm down a little bit and learn some more!
        
        Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 21 November 2009 00:01, by Manyok
        
        Tut Gatwech,
        
        You have all along been saying that you lived in Malakal. Now you have been in the USA longer than me! Think about that! Who tells the truth between you and me?
        
        When it comes to what I said about USA system last time, it was your wrong argument in which you insisted that party chairpersons all over the world are the ones who become president that I corrected. Your argument had nothing to do with primaries, friend. You have short memory. Dr. Okuk late on jumped into the issue of primaries after I had told him that he needed to do better because he is a researcher. I never responded to such argument because it was irrelevant to the preceding debate.
        
        A political system is not learned through daily living also, it is learned through research. I would be in Africa and still know how US system works. You sometimes try to fool the readers without knowing that things you cite can easily be verified.
        
        Now you have resorted to illogical argument as usual. There is nothing about going to church in our debate here, we are talking about legal issues based on facts.
        
        Did you prove me wrong by showing me exactly where the cases that you based your early points on happened?
        
        You need to get back to the level of reality if you want people to take you seriously.
        
        Zechariah Manyok Biar
- Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 07:42, by John Kaka
  
  I have a different thought about this incident. It is a chance for the Goss to understand the meaning of insecurity, people die every day no respond from this confused government called Goss. Let them understand that if they don’t disarm the civlians the next target is the president himself.
  - Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 09:23, by Isaac Treter
    
    John Kaka and Others.
    
    Before you disarm the Civillian first disarm the Sources that give them arms.
    
    Here i ask a question. What is the Sources that give Civillian arms?
    
    Please try to recognise that and get the answer, the issue of unlawful arms is now a problem in every tribe in Southern Sudan. The government need to come up with a strategy to identify and make a final solution to this problem.
    
    Our South Sudan need to activate and make use of its National and State Governments’ Constitution more importantly and actively with a Ban to unlawful arms. Every Civillian which can be found with an AK - 47 or Pistol can face some charges.
    
    Unless our Southern Sudan Gov,t does something related to law about unlawful arms, the killing will be a behaviour in our Nation.
    
    Thanks.
- Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 16:10, by Fighter
  
  AHhhhhhh AHHHHHHHHHH AHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
  
  Look at stupid idiots of Equatoria claiming that they also know politics,killlllllllllllllllllll yourselves since we don’t know you in our SOUTH.
Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 05:45, by marie

It is a regrettable incident that the minister has fallen a victim to. Power rivaling in the South Sudan has started to emerge. This incident is a clear indication of how we Southerners still have a long way to travel the road of democratic transformation. People are too impatient to wait for the change through the ballot, instead think of elimination as the shortest way. It time for us to understand political differences as opposed to hatred. A person of a different school of thoughs automatically becomes and enemy in our perspectives. You should learn from others and see how opposition parties help to build nations, especially in the western World. Politicians in position of power are not introspective, it is only through constructive criticism that the come to their senses, but in Africa, it is elimination. This is pathetic and we should grow up and behave like the rest of humans on this planet. This is a first high profile incident in the history of Equatoria. Mr P-Funk, said Equatorians are trouble makers and behave like animals. I disagree with his comments. Equatorians are peace loving people. In the history of South Sudan, there has not been incidents in which they fight unless aggravated. Most equatorians have eliminated association with animals and have moved to agriculture, which makes their lives stable. When you look at the choas and anarchy that is happening in the South, they mostly caused by non-Equatorians either within Equatoria or other places. I do not want to sound sarcastic, but this is the reality on the ground and you know it mr P-Funk, unless you are a hypocrite. There are four main stages of human evolution;animal rearing society, agriculture and animal rearing society, industrial society and post industrial (information age). Which one do you belong to mr P-Funk? There is a saying that, do not bite a hand that feeds you, or poo into a plate that you have been served with. Respect Equatorians and forever we will live in harmony, or else, hell would come down. You would be a witness to this testimony. It is not a threat but the facts.
Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 09:53, by doggysmile

your comment say a lot about yourself. it take other animal to notes other one. so I guess because you are criminal and animal that why you came into this conclusion. I hope people will not attribute your comment for you been Dinker or Nuer or other tribes. you are disgrace to the society as all whichever you come from. People like you have no brain but fat tissue with little brain in your genitals. so my friend south Sudan does not need divison or hatred at all. South Sudan need people who are patrotic like our former leaders John Garang and Agreth Judan a Pojulu. I suggest it is time for you to enroll into vasity or any learning centre and try to change for seek of your own and our future generations. this is advice take it or leave it. love and peace
Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 15:16, by Tony Komayiit

Ooh! no fellow southermerns,whoever will be behind samson ambush will face all what he/she deserve to in life. shame on your act.
Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 21 November 2009 04:29, by Lukudu

Why are people like P funk allowed to use an international space such as this? I have always tried to remind those who prefer hatred than love to stop airing rubbish to the world. The attempt to murder Dr Samson is not as simple as the way in which some people are arguing about it. Now that the Governor of Central Equatoria issued a decree detaching Wonduruba from the administration in Juba and attached it directly to the governor is not a solution at all to Wonduruba problem. In which part of the world a payam is directly linked or becomes answerable to the state governor? The attaching of Wonduruba payam to the governor is a sign that the Central Equatoria government is incapable of solving the problem of Wonduruba. Looking into the system of government in South Sudan, every Boma has a payam that it belongs to and every payam has a county that it belongs to and every county has a province, then why is Wonduruba considered as an area somewhere in heaven that no one can reach to? If the Governor can issue a decree attaching Wonduruba directly to his/her office why not issuing a decree to state out to which county Wonduruba belongs to? Considering geographical locations, tribes, customs, socializations, dialects and cultural interactions, each group of people in South Sudan inhabited areas where they they live as people of one tribe.

If the attempt to assassinate Dr Samson was because he supports the fact that Wonduruba people are Pojulu and should live together as Pojulu, then those who took their arms against this fact are condemned for their action. We are Pojulu and we will remain Pojulu until the end of the world. The people of Wonduruba can not be forced to join with people they do not share common interest.

I want to tell those who are writing their nonsense about Wonduruba to stop involving in such things by generalizing Equatorians and talking ill of every Equatorians.

Please stop your dirts because we the people of Wonduruba are peace lovers and it is a sad thing that has happened during our era.

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 05:17, by Rambang Deng

The GOSS politicians who are doing things recklessly will come to terms of inseurity they are creating. The shooting and the subsequence wounding of Dr Samson Kwaje is the good example of how frustrated Southern Sudanese are taking the evil acts directly to the evil doers of GOSS.

I hope our people will not kill themselves because of mistakes made by self serving greedy GOSS officials, but instead they could direct their anger against the right targets---The GOSS Corrupt Officials as rightly done by Pajulu people.

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 05:32, by Dinka Boy

Mr Rabang Deng, Just attempt the murder to your own leader like Dr Riek Machar if SPLM will be happy. Why are you so happy for this murder attempt to our great SPLM leader Samson Kwaje. This issue is the criminal case that should be term as crime against humanity. The administartion in that payam must be investigated interrogatively investigated why they killed 4 and wounded their own people without cause. Equatorians in that payam must be accountable for this inccident. They are people who doesn,t know the pride of their our own person, our own country. They are always food lovers like Lou Nuer.
- Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 15:19, by pow james raeth
  
  Dinka Boy
  
  i can not call you a Boy, you are a dinka woman with chicken feet makes on your face, you deserve to be fuck in the ass. am a pure Lou nuer warrior capable of invading your land by all cost, i trust my words you can not face me in war field,ya motherfucker.

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 05:22, by Gatjang

There is no dialogue in Equatoria. On other day, the logic dog blamed the shooting on Dinka but now it is clear now the minister was at risk on the Equatorian hands. Those sick Equatorian should learn how to respect leaders, keep them alive and challenge their action.

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 05:45, by Pee-Funk

Please my Dear southern, for those of you who were blame this attack on LRA alone also you see now blame is on Equatorian people because they are behind all of this attack since the beginning. do you guys think that LRA movement is only ugandans? hellno Equatorians are involved in that LRA movement too.I thought that President Omer Hassan Al-Bashir was only criminal in Sudan, but I was wrong because we have Equatorians people who are criminal in southern Sudan too. ashamed on Equatorian for committing this kind of huge crimes they have done. the SPLM need to punishing them and bring those criminal into the justice.

logic is coward because he don’t know any goddamma thing going on in southern sudan. he will died blame dinkas and Dinkas will always rule his Equatorian black ass.

by: Mr. P-funk
- Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 05:57, by marie
  
  For you information mr P-Funk, you call us Equatorians as having black a$$, that is because we are black. How do you call your a$$ which is full of ashes? You claim as if SPLM is owned by you. Where was the war fought? Not in Equatoria because you people can not feed yourselves.
  - Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 07:05, by Pee-Funk
    
    Mr. marie, you are the dumber of all Equatorian, do you think they reason why SPLA/M fought a war in Eastern Equatorian because of food? you are stupid motherf**k you don’t know the reason why the war fought in Equatorian and i don’t have to tell you because you are fool.
- Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 08:06, by Son of Greater Equatoria
  
  Mr Pee
  
  One day Equatorians gonna pee on your head so watch your words!!!
  - Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 23:43, by Pee-Funk
    
    what we have here another angry Son of bitch Greater Equatoria. you know where i gonna pee? I will pee in your Equatorian ass sorry ass.
Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 05:55, by Dengtaath

Hard to know what to say in such a situations, killing the leaders is not a solution to all related problems in Southern Sudan. Reluctant of the government in authority to solve such related problems is also a flavour to invite against them such kind of an evil act. Now who will take the responsibility in this situation? The government must stop ignoring issues that are bothering the public, leaving things for long time with out finding the solution to them is allowing the people over frustrated and that result in to commitment of such evil actions. I am not happy at all but government deserve to do some thing better for the people. I know other states like Unity state will experience the same thing if Kirr who is ignoring Taban Deng case will continue prolonging his long awaited decisuion to relieve the governor. Very Hard indeed!
- Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 06:15, by Pee-Funk
  
  Hey marie,
  
  I have no respect to Equatorians because they are nothing but fool. even the grow up man act like a kids. you said that this is the only incident Equatorian made their history. I agree with you because they shot the wrong guys because the Minister is not Dinka and that is why you said that is incident, but if the shot one of Dinkas Mininter you will be glade. but I disagree with you because Equatorians had never been a peace loving people because they had been killed Dinkas since the movement of SPLA/M and you know it that is true.
  
  I have nothing to say to you because you are the same like they rest of Equatorian people who like to kill Dinka.I have no love ya because i had enought for your shite you guys doing in southern Sudan.
  
  By: Mr. P-Funk
Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 05:58, by understanding

Boys it’s not going to slove our problems in such a way you want to do!!.

What we should do is to talk to our people and act like people who know more about the human being not to be sad or whatever is in your minds
- Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 06:19, by Garang Ayang Kuoi
  
  I am personally hopping that those who have committed this crime be brought to justice. On the other hand, I am grateful that this hero, Dr. Kwaje is well and alive. I called him an hero because he has been with his beloved southern Sudanese all these times, during bad (struggle) and good times (CPA era). When SPLA/M was stabbed in the back during 90’s, and some folks went to Khartoum and made their own agreements with the government of Sudan, Dr. Kwaje said and I quote, "a political party or any agreement without a support of its people is like a bird attempting to fly with one wing." Today, if you look at this well put statement by this son of the land, it has been proven, some went and formed their on political parties and made their own agreements based on their personal political gains, but they have failed because they were only supported and persuaded by the enemy in which they have no commons or distinctions at all, the cheaters in the north. Without going further, those who are responsible for this crime must be found and punished accordingly.

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 06:05, by Gatwech

Dear readers,

Just an intelligent thought!

First, it is regrettable if the Pojulu or others in Wonduruba payam carried out the murder mission against minister Samson Kwaje and his accompanying team. This is the first time a senior government official is targeted with the aim to kill since 2005.

However, here is an intelligent thought for those who will investigate the matter. Could it also be possible that somebody or some people somewhere outside Wonduruba local politics took advantage of the minister’s dispute with the locals to kill the minister so that the first suspects are the locals and the real murderer goes away with the crime?

In USA if you warn somebody that I am going to kill you, another criminal who got the message would take advantage of your warning and murder the person you warned so that you the one that gave out the warning becomes the first suspect. The real murderer goes away with the crime because no body would bother to investigate beyond the person who did the warning.

In the case of Samson Kwaje, there is need to investigate the matter beyond Wonduruba politicians. There could be someone somewhere who took advantage of the situation to murder the minister so that it is seen to be a result of the local dispute. Watch out!

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 06:19, by Dinka Boy

Mr Gatwech,

you don,t know what you talking about. The matter need serious invetigation in the Pojulu village administartion. this Murder attempt is ablame to Pojulu village not to outsider. This help me suspicious of you being the criminal who can create problem when you snick into another area.
- Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 06:44, by longo pi
  
  Minister should not act directly to the NEC as we all know the CES government resposible to any moves. Minister must respect the CES authority before he take any move.
  - Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 06:58, by longo pi
    
    Criminal Dinkas are the ones who carry this assassination attempt. But we will hunt them soon one by one.
    
    SPLM MUST PULL THEIR GLY MOUTH OUT FROM WONDURUBA ISSUE.
    - Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 07:11, by Pee-Funk
      
      HI longo pi, shut your stupid ass up because Dinkas are nothing doing with this killing because only you monkey try to black mailing us, but that will not work because it will return back to you. you know what the say something going around come around!!!!!!!!!!
      
      by: Mr. P-funk

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 07:14, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

Mr Pee-Funk,

You seem to be a mentally retarded person. What you write is nothing other than rubbish. How dare you show your venom agaist Equatorians? leave Equatorian matter to Equatorians. They taught you liberty so that you can now talk. when you were blind politically they showed you the way. When you were naked they dressed you. How can you claim to know more than they do. Please shut up your mouth that is devoid of teeth. Leave the political ball roll.

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 08:55, by Ajongtar

Is Dog Kwaje still alive at Nairobi Hospital?

We shall hunt him up to where he was admitted.

Its our time to kill al those corruptions musters, thieves, resources looters, and pillars of Slave Kiir, weather by Gun, Silent weapons, HIV/Aids and many more tactics, so that our Government resources remain to develop the territory of the State.

Time has come for Democratic Change for Southern Sudan. (DCSS)

For us to perform according to the expectations of the people of southern Sudan as expected to:
Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 21 November 2009 00:14, by Pee-Funk

jur_likang_a_ likan’g

stop lying to yourself stupid, because you know damma well that who liberty Equatorian from their monster Arab? is we Dinkas we give our life to save you. Equatorians people they have small mind because they don’t know how govern themselve or the country. only money you guys run after it but don’t care about the will of southern Sudan.

the reason why we are still fighting with Arab is because of Equatorian they sold Sudan to Arab. you people are nothing but Tranter.

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 10:55, by Gatwech

Brother Zechariah Manyok Biar,

I thought you are an educated person who gets himself acquainted with the US and the nature of its people’s crimes. I pity Gatjang for being uninformed person in the village in Duk county.

But for you Manyok, try it one day to warn some body that you will kill him if the police will not hunt for you in the US. But do you know why the police is sensitive about such a warning? It is because of two reasons: 1/ You may mean it to kill the person. 2/ The police see that you are pre-emptying the killing of the person by any other criminal.

I learnt two cases about this nature in the US. One example was when a person shouted against another fellow in a crowd that he would not live to see the next day. A criminal in the crowd took the matter into his own hands, followed the warned man and killed him voluntarily on behalf of the other man.

During the investigations the witnesses who were watching and listening when the other guy told the victim that he would not live to see the next day told the police about the whole story. The police arrested the guy who made the warning and put him to jail.

It took six months before the real killer was known. He confessed that he killed the man for fun because he was already condemned to death by the other guy.

Manyok, don’t just lock yourself in that missionary self-container apartment. Acquaint yourself with the US and its environment. There are alot of things you will miss and never learn from!

So it is true that somebody would attack Dr. Samson Kwaje knowing that the suspect would be the people he has involved in dispute with over Wonduruba. Somebody would have settled his scores with Dr. Samson by taking advantage of the situation in Wanduruba. Think like an intelligent investigator beyond your nose!

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 16:08, by Manyok

Brother Gatwech,

Saying that people are not educated as you think will not make them illiterate. I know you are aware of that. You may give us your credentials, showing us your expertise in grading educated people. I do not regard myself as more educate, anyway. But calling me names will not stop me from asking you to specify your point. You may know more than I do because what you are saying might have happened where you live in the USA.

I do not disagree with the point that police do arrest those who threaten others here because, as you correctly put it, they may mean it to kill the person. But you need to specify the points you made in this paragraph, if you want us to debate it.

"In USA if you warn somebody that I am going to kill you, another criminal who got the message would take advantage of your warning and murder the person you warned so that you the one that gave out the warning becomes the first suspect. The real murderer goes away with the crime because no body would bother to investigate beyond the person who did the warning."

You mentioned in your second comment that you know two cases that you are talking about. That is great. What I want to know is the state or states that those cases took place, and when? You may also provide me with case numbers so that I can go straight to the cases to be convinced that I am really locked up in ministry container. If the case numbers are difficult to get, then provide me with the name of the court that dealt with those cases. I have a way of tracking those things down here in my mission container.

Zechariah Manyok Biar

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 19:51, by Gatwech

Zechariah Manyok Biar,

Don’t take it too personal. Sorry if you misunderstood my comment. When I said you are educated, I in another word meant that you are a person who can understand what I was talking about unlike the other uninformed commentators such as the so-called Dinka Boy.

Manyok, you said you lived in Texas, USA. I also lived there in Texas for sometime before I moved to a different state. Do you know Fort Worth, TX? Do you know Dallas, TX? Well, I used to drive about 45 minutes from Fort Worth where I lived to Dallas. The story I told you happened around the Fort Worth market place. But asking me to give you the name of the court and the case number would be too much of me and even irrelevant in this internet comments on Sudantribune.

Manyok, you know very well that I don’t support irrelevant things. Just take it as I told you otherwise, why go deep into such unnecessary findings in US courts? Are you really serious? Or do you entertain irrelevance?
- Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 20 November 2009 20:17, by Gatwech
  
  Manyok,
  
  Your usual assumption that you know the American system better than any body else is a pure lie. My friend, according to your information on the scholarship that brought you to US, you came to USA five years after I have already been living in the US. Stop that!
  
  This wrong assumption misled you to comment irrelevant issues on elections last time. You did not even know that primaries are always done in USA to choose party nominees. This is the same mistake you are now repeating. Stop that arrogance on wrong assumption. Being a church goer doesn’t qualify you to know every US system. I am also a frequent church goer plus learning many other things. Please Mr. New Comer, calm down a little bit and learn some more!

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 21 November 2009 00:13, by Manyok

Mr. Tut Gatwech,

You have all along been saying that you lived in Malakal. Now you have been in the USA longer than me! Think about that! Who tells the truth between you and me?

When it comes to what I said about USA system last time, it was your wrong argument in which you insisted that party chairpersons all over the world are the ones who become president that I corrected. Your argument had nothing to do with primaries, friend. You have short memory. Dr. Okuk later on jumped into the issue of primaries after I had told him that he needed to do better because he is a researcher. I never responded to such argument because it was irrelevant to the preceding debate.

A political system is not learned through daily living also, it is learned through research. I would be in Africa and still know how US system works. You sometimes try to fool the readers without knowing that things you cite can easily be verified.

Now you have resorted to illogical argument as usual. There is nothing about going to church in our debate here, we are talking about legal issues based on facts.

Did you prove me wrong by showing me exactly where the cases that you based your early points on happened? If you do not know the court that tried the cases, can you tell me any name of a Sudanese, together with a phone number, who witnessed what you are talking about?

You need to get back to the level of reality if you want people to take you seriously.

Zechariah Manyok Biar

Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 21 November 2009 08:17, by Gatwech

Zechariah Manyok Biar,

You want to talk about short memories? No, it is you my friend, not me who has short memories. You forgot that it was Thieleling who told you about primaries elections in USA in his support to my argument. But yours was completely on the lost side. Dr. Okuk just seconded what Thieleling said about the primaries. I hope you can now regain your lost memories. Think about that!

Again you are deceiving yourself that being in USA cannot go together with being in Malakal. My friend, I travel to and fro Sudan. I live in US as well as live in Malakal. If you can’t afford to do both, then don’t assume that this could not work for every body else. I can live in Malakal for one year and move back to US and continue there for another year or so. Just ask me where am I now. In US or in Malakal!

I told you that I don’t waste time with irrelevant things. I know you are lying because even if I tell you the name of th court you can never set foot in it. Because no sound minded court clerks would waste their time with Manyok who wants to cross-check on their files just to find out aboutan a comment on internet blog. If your church can allow you to disturb their files on such trivial issues, don’t temper with the courts.

Manyok you are out of touch. This reminds me of your irrelevant article on Sharia Law in Sudan. Instead of you writing it as a protest right after the signing of the CPA in January 2005, you waited until 2009 just to bore people with it. Be lively!
- Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 21 November 2009 14:51, by Manyok
  
  Gatwech,
  
  You are adding to your dishonesty. If you spend one month in Malakal and one month here in the USA, why did you not mention it anywhere in your comments? you had been saying that you live in Malakal and you stopped at that point.
  
  Another problem in your argument is this: If you spend one month here in the USA and then spend the following month in Malakal, then you spend about $12,000 per a year for air ticket alone. Where do you get such a money when all you do is traveling and not working?
  
  Zechariah Manyok Biar
  - Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 21 November 2009 14:56, by Manyok
    
    Gatwech,
    
    My last paragraph in the above comment is mistaken. You spend one year in Malakal and one year here in the United States, not one month. I apologize for that.
    
    Have you seen how honesty works. Honesty is taking things as they are. If you make a mistake, you apologize.
    
    But my question is why you had not mentioned anywhere in your comments that you where living in both USA and Sudan.
    
    Zechariah Manyok Biar
    - Shooting of South Sudan minister prompts detachment of local administration 21 November 2009 15:18, by Gatwech
      
      Zechariah Manyok Biar,
      
      You have yourself made your irrelevant questions null and void! You saved me time by correcting or counter-reacting to your own comment. I think I don’t have to answer your first irrelevant questions because you have already corrected yourself. Call it your dishonesty in the first place and honesty in the corrective part. I call it an attempt to twist the facts. This is because in my comment above which you responded to, I never mentioned any thing about one month. I talked about one year. But you rushed to make it a month so that you come up with your irrelevant calculation of tickets I could have wasted. That is now out!
      
      Well, it looks like your main concern left is why I couldn’t tell in any of my comments that I also lived in USA as in Malakal. Was it relevant really? I thought what mattered was the points made in my comments, not from where I made them. Manyok, making your points from USA doesn’t make any difference from somebody presenting his or her points from Malakal. Don’t take it as an issue. It is equally irrelevant. Nevertheless, Manyok, you are one of my favorite commentators. I like your maturity.