22 Forum messages

• South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 04:29, by Time1

  He never said he will not disarm the Toposa, he just said all the neighbouring tribes need to be disarmed simulteneously so one tribe does not attack the other one.

  

  • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 05:01, by thieleling

    Nothing good would ever comes out of Salva Kiir & his tribal crooks in Juba!!

    Salva Kiir cannot even disarm his own Akon village, Warrap state to bring about stability there. Where does he get the power to disarm Toposa tribe even if Kenya or Uganda disarm their other side of the borders?

    There is no gov’t in south sudan which can disarm Toposa or other tribes in the south sudan region. Salva Kiir is a political provocateur in this one. He is simply doing real politiks in the name of Toposa people to blackmail Kenyans. The LRA is the case in point. Why are innocent civilians are being killed by LRA in WES Equatoria if Kiir has a power as a leader in southern sudan?

    Kiir is simply a tribal chieftain based in Juba and the best he can do there is to loot 50% budget from oil share with his crooks and corrupted tribal cliques. Nothing else!!

    

    • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 06:13, by Gatwech

      Thieleling,

      You are right. But you know, I believe Salva Kiir could have been a very good leader if he liberated himself from bad advisors who have been giving him tribally motivated advices. I believe Kiir by his own nature is a very good man. But his tribal advisors have hijacked him, some for intentional tactics to spoil him, others might have given such tribal advices believing it is in good faith. This has spoiled Kiir and turned the government into chieftaincy.

      His recent diplomatic and political offensive in the region is a very good applaudible move. Kiir should liberate himself from his tribal clique who only want to see him at odds with his non-Dinka colleagues in the government. This can make him his true orginal Salva Kiir of Mayardit.

      

      • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 07:08, by thieleling

        Gatwech,

        Yes, this is Kiir’s good diplomatic-speak though in reality we know it is real politik. You are right, Kiir could be better without his tribal clique advisers led by Lual Ding Wol & other crooks. See, prejudice is the spear of ignorance and this tribal clique is too ingnorant to see the the bigger picture and think big for south sudan.

        They are wrong in thinking other south sudanese are their military and political enemies. This is what causes all these attrocities and bad relations among the top leadership. Dr. Machar is NOT the enemy, their narrowed tribal-mentality didn’t figure that out.

        South Sudanese all over the world are now talking to their countries of ressident political leadership to closely scrutiny Kiir’s anti-democratic tendency that was overlooked while people were only scrutinizing Jellaba evil tactics. Kiir’s chieftaincy/tribal gov’t has shown the world its true tribal color and the world has to treat it for what it truly is, tribal clique GOSS.

        

      • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 13:05, by wenatemdejuach

        To gatwech and theileing

        The evil minded people of nuer will lead them, their leader Riek machaar nowhere.All that you think take after your grand fathers thoughts.It is not good to alter the topic to tribal clashes when it is normally clear that toposa to be disarmed followed by Nuer.Because these are the very curiositive tribes that shouldn’t listen if they had not taken your property by force. Why do you complain of wrong advisers? Is your uncle wise? Singer Gordon Koang says that leave not to kill to have big generation in the nearest future.there is no doubt disarming Toposa or not.
        Be good listeners to deliver good information to your society as charity begins at home.

        you can not clean some one house if you hadn’t cleaned yours...............

        

    • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 07:17, by Dinka Boy

      yes Nuer disarmament and then Taposa.
      Taposa kill a lot of SPLa when NCP used them aganist SPLM. They used to get their weapons in Juba so they fight SPLA.
      We know that SPLA teach Taposa lessons already amd they are now better than before.

      

  • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 05:05, by Nile

    Salva Kiir should know that Jonglei is one of the worst states that needed to be disarm before any other state can disarm. as of now, it’s impossible for a person to walk from state capital (Bor) all the way to Pachalla without being kill, it is impossible. I hope he (Kiir) really knows what he is talking about otherwise nobody will take his words seriously this time.

    

  • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 05:15, by maumau

    Mr.Time1, you got our president righ. Your analysis is brief and direct to the point. All must disarm simultaneously.

    

• South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 05:02, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

  Disarming my boys (toposa) is not an easy thing as people thinks. Why should Toposa be disarm if neighbours are holding guns? it’s for them to be controlled like ladies by others? not really. Those guns are needed by Equatorians people for future plan of what is going to happened in South, I and we as one need those weapons for self determination in South not only for self depend from other countries. Those who dream of taking Toposa guns should start right now, and they will be the example for others to learn, whether SPLA gangs or whatever they will face the truth game and w’ll see negative impacts. Who on earth can be control by others in 21 century? People can talk of disarming and do it within the cities not rural areas otherwise those who step beyond the boundaries shorten their lives or get half life to live. How and why try and you will see by yourself. Any Equatorian who accept giving his/her gun to this dinkas government is making fool of our images. You give yours and later on dinkas government will take and give it to his dinkas then see who is going to suffer. It is time to open your eyes and have perfect ears.

  

  • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 05:55, by khamic Isaac

    Dear Famous Logic & Thieleig,

    Guys you did not understand what Salva Kiir said, as said Toposa tribe can be disarmed within the regional plan. the regional plan mean Kenya and Uganda are part of the regions and he further said Toposa can not be disarmed while Kenyan Turkana Tribe and Karamajoo of Uganda are holding guns in their hand which 100% right from Kiir. where did you get statement say he wanted to disarmed Toposa.

    Please read the article clear before you jump and comment of abuse while you did not understand have been said,this kind of rush will not take you any where and it has been describes rushing lead Dogs to gave birth with permatur kittels.

    I would like to informed Sudantribune who just put some information on media without being said by the authority concern . Toposa were noy fighting along side Arabs and if they were, why was the home of our late Great Leader John Garang in Toposa area where he died on way to Kapoeta County.

    Some Guns given to Toposa by John Garang where form so call Non Train Army (NTA) to take control of our borders with Kenya, Uganda and far east to Ethiopia where Ethiopia claims apart of our land to their which later reply by Dr John that let them look at the old map between Sudan and Ethiopia and the same happen when Ugandian claims that Ketipo park as part their land and the same statement was passed to government by Mabior Kuir an SPLA Security officer was based in lokukei in 1993, and it is now happening at the Kenyan border where they said Toposa tribes have been grazing their cattles on their side while they do not know that Lokichoggio is a part South Sudan.

    Dear Southern, you need to be very keen because where every our border lie not there will be a problems of borders across the region.and if some of you have been to Kaya and Buszis will note that there will be a problems as Congolese have enter to our sides and claims to their.

    I have been to many places in South Sudan Starting Tumbura in the far west of CAR border to far East Kurmock at Ethiopia leave alone Congo, Uganda and Kenya.

    I strongly agreed with Kiir that Toposa should not be disarmed unless Kenya- Uganda disarmed the Civilians armed gruop and I would aslo like Kiir to sit down with Toposa Elders about the issue in order for them not attack any tribes in sides South Sudan such as Boya, Didiga,Lopit, Lokuka amd many.

    

    • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 06:36, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

      It better if you take your crap knowledge and teach with Kiir to improve his little. Who are you trying to each on this site?

      

      • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 06:46, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

        That is you

        Mr.Big Loggic Boy foolish Man with your groups.
        your are a foolish devile. Read my name what is mean! Damned foolish!

        Nguetbuny de Lualpiny
        Liberator Man!

        

      • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 06:49, by khamic Isaac

        I am trying to tell the fact that will happen and seem to be madi and Acholi boy as I told some back months back do not be proud by the work that was done by others and you also pretend yourself to be the next leader of EDF.

        Please tour 3 states that you wanted to be a leader before anouned your leadership if I would have know your email address I would therefore advice you to change your writing torn. this will even harm you in your own community apart from other community within Great Equatoria.

        

        • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 08:31, by Anyuathwakou

          Dear Theilieny or how do you called yourslef,

          Did you heard any clans fighting in Akon one day since your present on this world? Our civilians have no guns since the very beginning
          except those who are in the army and they are now in SPLA Barracks.Do you think they have guns for which purposes?

          

          • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 09:55, by Dongjol

            Anythouwaku whatever,

            The best way of bringing peace is peace building ,meaning dealing with development projects that benefits the people,continous educaion with regard to the disadavatages of war, deveopment of infrastructures that will enable people mix with each other to avoid their doubts against one another and so on.

            Disarmmament should come as the last option after peace building projects fails.But never fails.

            Whenever disamimg you should make sure that everthing like arrows ,spears,stones and guns are collected in the area.Because all these are used to kiling some one.Also make sure that no other source of supply .Will SPLA have capacity to to this?

            Which one is effiecient and effective,Peace building or disarmament?

            I am sorry that my ancestorial land is not having a qualified political scientists who are serving as kiir’s advisors.What a AIDS/HIV!!!

            

          • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 11:29, by Afredo christiani

            Idiot-Thieleing /Getwech

            1-Frankly speaking, nuers are the most foolish people in southern Sudan that cannot understand forever. Look nuer militia killed police officer in Khartoum. Yesterday while Khartoum government is the one supporting them to fight southerners; changing from time to time will not help you guys, all southerners are worried about these illiterates criminals nure in the coming up elections. Getwech/thieleing go to your home areas to convince your people instead of focusing on President Mr. Kiir. In nuer societies, .you cannot differentiate educated and non-educated person, they look like cattle’s in toch

            2- This time you will face very serious confrontation, if you don’t want to change your barbaric acts ,your case was normalized due to main objectives not because you are powerful than others. Nyagats, militia, illiterates and Arabs followers cannot defeat wise men of beloved southern Sudan. The writer is close bodyguard of nuer senior officer who does not know how to read and write. Commander in heard not on shoulder with nothing.l

            

  • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 13:34, by wenatemdejuach

    Disarmement compulsary for any tribe whether being, nuer or toposa.
    This Equatorianism will soon be rectified by dinka like wise for nuerism which has just been finished.back to the histroy, you formed your EDF sprearheaded by Martin Kenyi, Paul omoyo since 1992 and it was curved by innocent dinka. If you think that disarmement is not giong to happen then who do you think fear war. Let distorts it and we will rectify it. Toposa kills dinka not Arabs during the war.Equatorians kill Arabs but much dinka. Nuer kill Arabs but not as much as dinka. For how long should we keep silent being diturbed by tiny snakes of no venoms.

    I am tired, Disarmement if not possible, war in place. Whose son has not died because of this peace? others celebrated it and see only to eat it while not yet cook.What is funny about Toposa they fought nothing and they are going to fight no one.

    Advise yourselves to see what eager some one
    Otherwise god bless you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    

• South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 09:58, by Critic_Ngueny

  Dear Southerners from Southern Sudan and the World at large,

  If you have nothing to say,please don,t just bark at people for nothing.

  It is something very common from our barking dogs;Nuer and Equatorians to bark at Dinkas for no good reason.

  Critic_Ngueny from Bor town

  

• South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 12:04, by gatdajul

  Kiir Mayardit,since you came to power you never did a good thing, thank you for saying that Taposa will never to be disarmed.Because these Turkana are scavengers like Dinka community who eat monitorlizard and monkeys.continue with that love for southerness sudanese now you are qualified to be regestered as Nuer not Dinka any more .

  

• South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 16:10, by Gabriel Adupa

  Dear Readers,

  What is happening in Kapoeta East County is concealed from you by both the government of Southern (GOSS) and the Kenyan government. On 14/10/2009, the Kenyan armed forces comprised of Kenya army, General Service Unit (GSU), the Police and the Turkana who are armed by John Munyes under the pretext of what is known in Kenya as Kenya Police Reserve (KPR). These forces occupied Nadapal adjacent to our exit point. For those who might have travel to Kenya through Nadapal exit point, the Kenya forces established their four bases across the river. In each base, the Kenya flag is flying high.
  The Turkana who are dying to graze around this area have migrated in thousands with their cattles. They are fighting against the Toposa together with the security forces who have secured maximum security for their cattle in Toposaland. It is hard to imagine the way the Kenyan forces are killing the Toposa while the SPLA forces keep watching. The denial of John Munyes that those who are in Nadapal are just police. Which police in the world is trained to use 82mm, 60mm and anti-personal carriers? Kenya is claiming that they have regain a 27 kilometers land which was left to the Sudan during the war. This is falls. If we talk about Ilemi Triangle, this area where the fighting is taking place is far away from the disputed Ilemi Triangle.
  Two reasons are driving Kenyan and their Turkana to encroach into Sudan. One that the search for pasture for the Turkana. Turkana District is one of the driest areas in Kenya, Turkana can only access grazing pasture in Turkana South and Northwest of the Ilemi Triangle. Second reason is the search for oil. In recent times, Kenya went on aggressive exploration of oil just like Uganda. This took them into Indian Ocean (Lamu) shore. After failing, they turned to Turkana District which of course is like the rest of the Arab world in its climatic conditions. They tried in areas around Kakuma but again fruitless. Their oilmakers or searcher pointed a finger into the areas of Sudan. Without any reservation, Munyes armed Turkana with AK47 and G-3 which he is accuring from Khartoum. Turkana felt blest and are now clearing Toposa from their ancestral land. Yesterday, they burnt villages, killed women and children and drived away hundred heads of cattle in an area called Locoreabei. As of now, vultures are eating dead bodies while the Turkana settled in the same are with the protection of the KPR.

  Let the international community comes down to verify this. Toposa are being massacred by Kenya and Turkana in their own land while their government keeps watching.

  

  • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 30 October 2009 23:08, by wang

    Mad Dika, You are running out of room within in our society. Nuer will clean your asses up not latter if you do not stop these SPLA olds attitudes. you Gonna no friend where you can run into to safe your asses like before do run to Equitorial. To my fellows Nuer watch those trick Jaak carefully.

    

    • South Sudan say Toposa can be disarmed within regional plan 31 October 2009 02:47, by black man world

      Was equatorian the one living there alone or were they with ARABS in their towns? Please stop being stupid it wont even help you your self. Late me break it down sick guy, DINKA came through Equatoria 1 because it was a boarder 2) it was easy for UN to access through the boarder of UGANDA, KENYA so they can help them with ration. It wasnt because of Equatorain beauty was the reason DINKAS go to Equatoria fool, please even Equatorian them selves were suffering in their own villages before Dinka come. So if you are calling for genocide on DINKA do it but dont just be stupid on what you dont really know. Am sorry for SOUTHERN SUDAN because we are always against the truth, i my self i been with equatorain for almost my life but i never heard of war of trible war before beside this website of dumb adult.