47 Forum messages

• Jonglei Canal is a red line too! 25 October 2009 05:18, by Ajang Aguer Pageer

  Any thing else can be tempered with,but lives can not be handled carelessly.The thorny issue of Jonglei Canal should not be discussed at any cause,let alone implementing it!No matter how much assistance Egypt is willing to give Southern Sudan in exchange of Jonglei Canal project,no one should dare digging a grain of sand in any part of Southern Sudan in the name of diverting water to Egypt.

  After all,if Egypt claims to be technologically capable,then the easy way to get water is through Red Sea.No logic will allow Southern Sudan to turn its own land into a desert in these days of global warming in order to save Egyptians who only became friends when they are in need.

  

  • Jonglei Canal is a red line too! 25 October 2009 05:21, by Tut Kun Nyuot

    Thank for your comment Tut

    

  • Jonglei Canal is a red line too! 25 October 2009 10:09, by Gatdit Kol

    There is one thing Egyptians should know,people of South Sudan nowadays are not like the people of South Sudan in the fast.We have alot of politicians,educated people in diffirent fields and many qualifiers in technology.Therefore,we can do our works alone, we don’t want any assistance from Arabs.Shame on Egyptians.How come they come today while they were the very people who colaborated with their fellow Arabs during the war.And thanks all southerners for being alert of Egyptians.

    

    • Jonglei Canal is a red line too! 26 October 2009 02:20, by Dinka Dominated SPLA

      GOOD article but DONOT saiy the name of that wicked evil man called RIEK Machair death to him

      

  • Jonglei Canal is a red line too! 26 October 2009 00:40, by Beny de Piny

    I do not know whether president Kiir is firmed regarding his accusation aganist NCP that Bashir arms Southern Sudan malitias!! if so and as we all know then why and why Kiir use to discuss security matters with the one fuelling the case, does the president knows that by sharing information about security in the south with these criminals minds reveals the weakness of SPLA and allow NCP to create new strategies for the destabilization of the South by recruitting and arming unintended members?!!!!. As a head of the family you are not expected to discuss all your family matters with every one even with your own brother because every one might use that and consider you as a weak person. On the other hand, the world is now facing water shortage for development so if the south has no thing to do with water then south sudan land itself need to be green to produce feuits that grows naturally So I am saying no water deal with any country no matter what...

    

• Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 05:20, by Biliu

  Bilateral relations with Egypt are vital and mostly welcoming, yet Jongoli Canal is not and issue to be re-negotiated at this time, Egypt has to prove good intentions towards Southerners and stop backing the NCP in the North, then and only then, the southerners will be ready to consider Jongoli Canal advantages and hazards to the local resident

  

• Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 05:21, by Dinka Boy

  Thanks Salva Kiir Mayardit for your effort. We trust you since the struggle of North -South war. Wish you save journey to Egypt. By the way, tell to Eygpt that ressuming Jonglei Cannal will be equate to another war. Jonglei canal was part of South -North war and it should be equate to death because its destruction to people of Jonglei and the enviroment;for example in 1984 this cannal killed alot of animals, make area flooded, Masquitoes. Jonglei canal construction will be war.

  

  • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 05:26, by Tut Kun Nyuot

    Dear Dinka Boy Today you talk like Nation Boy , So it seem , if you improved on your tribal ideologgy you can do something in future ,keep up the spirit

    Tut

    

  • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 07:24, by ngor martyn jok

    Dinka boy,

    Hah,it doesn’t cause flooding! and also,mosquitoes ’re not that effective point to talk about,otherwis u will be just diffusing the issue....you got to do more research to make a better comment on the Jonglei’s canal issue.It’s really complex and it doesn’t need your little brains who will only complain on it. Have a wider view of the project.

    

    • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 11:25, by Francis

      Ngor Jok

      Don’t assumed things on your head, would you please leave Dinka Boy alone, he is 100% right on the topic, better than you.

      However this Canal issues is part of slavery, any one concern should go to Uganda first before meeting these poor leaders of Southern Sudan.

      I don’t like war”, but if come to the Canal issue, I will be the first to take up armies for war.

      May God bless Southern Sudan.

      

  • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 10:10, by Deng Yak L

    Mr. Dinka Boy

    Please don’t thank him this project will annihilate our area especially we those of Jonglei State , it has many disadvantages on the communties of Jonglei Stae, i don’t see the reason why you can thank him. I really disalike this Jonglei Canal project, i have seen and witnessed the disadvantages of it during the war.

    I DISAGREE WITH THOSE WHO ARE SUPPORTING JONGLEI CANAL PROJECT TO BE RESUME.

    BY MATHON MATHON

    

• Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 05:33, by Young Patriot

  Kiir will be mad if he accepts meeting Egyptian leaders to renegogiate the resumption of Jonglei Canal. Construction of Jonglei Canal is a red line for all Southerners!

  It is the only external challenge that unites all Southern and will force to go back to war no matter what amount of money Egyptians will give Southern Sudanese. By the way we don’t need that bloody Egpytian money because they have been the route of Southern Sudanese marginalization.

  To Kiir, play politics but be careful about Jonglei Canal issue because just talking about it will cost you your presidency. We are fed up with those bloody Arabs!

  

  • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 07:17, by ngor martyn jok

    Young patriot,

    why calling renegotiation of Jonglei ’s canal a red line.let me hope,u ’re not suggesting that Egypt’s government would still have plans to resettle its indigenous people along the Jonglei’s canal.

    

    • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 26 October 2009 16:27, by Dinka Aliap Chawul

      I never read this fully after i found out issues of Jonglei Canal.

      NO TO RENEWAL OF JONGLEI CONSTRUCTION OTHERWISE DOOR SHOULD BE TO ANOTHER WAR BETWEEN NORTHERNERS,EGYPTIANS & WHOEVER WANT OUR WATER IN THAT WAY.I MUST SACRIFICE MY BLOOD FOR OUR WATER’

      PLEASE MR PRESIDENT DONT CLIMB THAT STONE...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      

• Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 05:43, by Gatwech

  Dear readers,

  Salva Kiir should be careful and try his level best to be skillful when dealing with these crocodiles, the Egyptians. The issue of Jonglei canal needs careful discussion. The implementation of the CPA is a sensitive area to Egypt and particularly the self-determination clause. Kiir should not change his colours based on which location he finds himself. He should tell what is right as it is. There are other bilateral relations that can be cemented with Egypt without compromising the position on the right to self-determination.

  

  • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 07:09, by ngor martyn jok

    Gatwech !!

    Congratulations to you,for only saying that Jonglei canal’s issue needs careful discussion.It’s got to be evaluated carefully by weighing its outcomes.If at all positive benefits over-weighs negative ones,then should just be resurrected on considering favorable policy.

    

• Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 05:59, by wakou mu

  Kiir must not accept Egyptian demand on our property. Indeed, If Jonglei Canal is one to make Egyptian support South Sudan independence. Hell no, let them stay away, we will still got it though they stay back.

  

• Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 06:04, by Oduck Bol

  Kiir should avoid any word ""Nile water"" from Egyptians mouth. Some time you sign things that you are going to regret about them. One example is (census).

  

  • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 07:39, by samuel_kur@yahoo.ca

    Praise the Lord Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!!!!

    At the first time in my life i will sleep deeply and pleasant, today South Sudan has grown as a polite nation.

    We are suppose to celebrate as a civilized nation, this day is a day of a self respect. I am so happy my dears of the comments we made today, i wish we should keep up my brothers, with out dividing our nation South Sudan, which will be an independent country tomorrow. So we will not feel shame in front of the world, specially the North will say they were very sure, that we are not responsible nation, they will proved to the whole world that we are tribalsm nations, as they always use to say.

    Therefore, we should not look at the tribes my dears, so the Almighty God will be able to hear us, and the world will help us, but if we keep writing on the web site about our hate.

    How could the world support us to get an independent? We must make sure that the whole world is connected, if they said those people are not eligible to become an independent state, we would not get a separate state through the international communities.

    Brothers, we need to maintain our image in front of the God, as well as international community.

    I hope we should not show that corrupted image of hopeless again, even if we do not like each other, must portend we like each other ,so we should not show it to our enemies that we don’t like each other, mean while, we are seemly proving to the world, that we are premature to become an independent state.

    We have to assure that the next period will not be for communities divisions, it will be a geographical divisions. Such as citizens from Bentiu are belong to Bentiu or Western of Nuer State as we were calling it before the president Gaffer Mohamed Nomeri named it as Unity state,as well as Upper Nile, Jongle, Awil, Warap Centeral Equatoria and so on. That is a civilized division of mature state.

    God Bless South Sudan, God Bless New Sudan, God Bless people of South Sudan.

    God hear our prayers. Amen !

    

• Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 06:26, by BUSTA 2

  IS KIIR TOURIST??????

  Why is this man ever moving up and down? Doesn’t he have some to do? Has he reduce tribalism in South? Has he change the mind of his backward boys behavious?

  If he has not done any of the above why moving up and down like Tourist? Is he is visiting those places to learn from them or what?

  Those who are advising him please tell him to minimise his travelling and do something at home than just moving up and down.

  Brother in Christ,

  Busta 2

  

  • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 06:36, by Dinka Boy

    Haaaaaaa, let me laugh at this drunkard Busta2. You have zero capabilities in your mind dear. Kiir is not moving up and down for nothing as you said but he is doing his job of being the president of the South. What do you expected from him?. You want him to sit in his office doing nothing. WOW! some one who give birth to you will killed himself if he/she read your comments. Thanks

    

  • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 26 October 2009 10:32, by Pet Deno

    Mr.Busta 2,Kiir should move when it is necessary for his duty as a president.Do you think he can make movement with no reasons for a trips.

    Let him tour so long as he will meet his target as a president.

    By Pet Deno

    

• Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 06:32, by Wensi

  The issue of Jonglei Canal can not be used as political topic. It is always unpalatable to hear it everytime Egyptians bring it up. We, the citizens of Jonglei know how to deal with it eventhough it is being made as a political topic over there. It does not worry us at all if they are just giving it a lip service there in Cairo. However, as far as I know, its resumption is very glimse!!!

  Enjoy your trip over there Mr. President, but making some deals in exchange of Jonglei Canal’s resumption, is something unwelcoming. You (President) should also keep in mind where to pay Egyptians back if anything goes into your government concerning the deal of the Canal, becasue I am pretty sure that canal will never be dug through the heart land of Jonglei.

  Further more President, you should also keep in mind the life that will be lost in the course of diversion.

  

• Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 06:56, by ngor martyn jok

  It’s quite wonderful seeing visits that would materialize to developmental projects in South Sudan.Tell Egyptians to stand behind the referendum for any outcome.Also,they got to see not only the trees in South Sudan but,should all look at the fundamental of the forest at large.

  However,did I see Jonglei Canal issue..it’s just nice to bring it back to renegotiation.It must be resurrected,and it must be completed since it’s left with only some miles away. Small brains are too many around, and they would refuse its resurrection.Just interested in telling you that,get down and make more research and you will appreciate its outcome. Don’t tell us stories in your research that Egypt’s government is still planning to resettle her indigenous communities along the nile to boost its projects.

  How I try to see it,it will control the volume of water that purges every year outside the state of Jonglei which ’s more of importance.We will never have the state developed with flooding that’s just a disaster every each day.Water must find its own level ,should be more under control to facilitate the development through out.

  Lastly,resurrection and renegotiation of Jonglei canal must be in such a way as to control the volume of water and promote developmental projects around its territories and make more conservation of the environment.

  Tnxs!!!

  

  • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 07:02, by Dinka Nile

    Thanks Mr. Kiir, we like how you start building relationship with African countries in case you declare South Sudan independence, you will have a backup from your African brothers.

    Hey, look at the list of officials who went with Kiir....how many Dinkas? Very divest. Folks I am tired of people calling GOSS, a Dinka government....

    Dinka Nile

    

    • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 07:21, by Mike Mike

      To Busta or whatsoever, What do you want Mr. Kiir to do for you since you are not satistify for the nice job which he was been doing now. His tour to some African Countries doesn’t cause any thing bad to our people. It is even going to increase the foreign relationship to our government to be so strong enough and the hatred you have in your heart cannot make us reach to an expected future life atall. Unless we have to united ourselves all of us and eliminate totally what is so call tribalist conflict because tribal will not let,s acheived what we are expecting to get for ourselves in the South.

      

    • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 07:25, by Wilson Wutchok Dhal

      Let Egyptian government forget about the resumption of Jonglei canal otherwise if that is the case for the visited then Kiir should councel the trip which is going to Egypy and let them go to hell.

      Lastly to he/she who took this government(GOSS)to be government of one tribe, is a very big dumb and crazy human being not only that but he/she lack some sense of humanity.

      

      • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 10:48, by Gatdit Kol

        Shame on those who say GOSS is their gov’t like the coward people-Dinka.They don’t even know who first defected from Sudan gov’t in 1983.And the organisers of Anyanyaone.Nuer were the first people to form the movement.Shame on you Dinka. If you don’t take care we will let you extinct like dinosaurs.

        

        • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 11:30, by Deng Yak L

          Mr. Gatdit Kol

          what do you know about politics? what do you know about education? what do you know about civil live? what do you know about internal and external politics? what do you know about sudan in general not south alone? . please eat your food at home, drink and sleep but don’t involve in politics you are too young and iliterate get your education first inorder to associate youself with politics.

          You said shame on those who call GOss their government , but i can say shame on you collaberator who don’t fight for the right his of people , shame on your uncles who were collaberators, shame on your teacher who taught you, shame on your eleder brother who gave you dead advice , shameon your self BIG, BIG SHAME ON YOU.

          DEAR READER GATDIT KOL IS A MAD MAN I KNOW HIM HE WAS WITH ME IN THE SPLA BEFORE HE JOIT HIS UNCLE, HE HAS MENTAL PROBLEM , HE WAS BORN MAD MANY PEOPLE DO CALL HIM (WUR MI CI YONG) , WHICH MEAN MAD MAN I KNOW HIM VERY WELL THEN HIS PARENT.

          BY MATHON MATHON

          

          • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 17:12, by Gatdit Kol

            Mr. Deng Mr. Deng you couldn’t ask me such questions since you become educated person because Nuer chased you away from Sudan during the war.I guess you are either Dinka Bor or you are from Bar -el- gazahl Dinka.My friend Nuer are now in a planning to kill all Dinka so that other southern Sudanese will remain in peace.You will be like dinosaurs if you Dinka you don’t take care.Dinka in Bar- el- gazahl will be all killed by Nuer of Unity state, Dinka of Jonglei will be killed by Nuer in their state and the same thing in Upper Nile.In 1991 we let you go to school,but the 2nd genocide will extinct all Dinka in South Sudan.You can even think for your innocent people because now we all close the borders like that of Uganda,Kenya, Ethiopia and the north Sudan. Shame on you Deng.

            BY SON OF JIIL NUAN JUONG.

            

            • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 20:44, by Riangnom

              Genocidal is not like when you nuer eat expired breads that had thrown to you by your slave masters arabs in Khartoum and fight over it, lets wait unitl 2011 when South get independent. since 1984 -1991-1997 nuer were stabbed Dinka in the back while we were fighting arabs, your case was not took serious by the great Dinka. You nuer repeat that again after 2011, that time this is where the inhuman creatures nuer will know exactly Dinkas were ignoring their stabbed in the back during South- North war. God bless south Sudan

              

• Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 07:30, by Critic_Ngueny

  I would to tell my brave president Kiir Mayardit to be very brave enough.We are for him and we shall be for him wherever he goes.

  We Jech Amer have suffered a lot than anybody here and there and it is because of the SPLA/M.

  Please my dear president,you have to think,talk,walk,and laugh like a real Dinka from Dinka’land.People fear us because of how we talk and act at the same time.Jonglei Canal is one of the problems which made us to go to the bush.When you are talking to Arabs,let your yes be No.That how Dinkas talk and so do the Southerners but not all.

  Critic_Ngueny from Bor town

  

  • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 07:53, by samuel_kur@yahoo.ca

    Mr. Critic Ngueny. Please chill down we are not going to tolerate this kind of bragging about a any community name, lets us do it by the name of south Sudan. As you saw today all of the comments are purely polite, so that we don’t want any body to pollute this clean environment.

    I should politely advised you not to take any degree of tribalism again south is going to its future.

    Take it easy.

    Bye

    

• Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 07:54, by J.James

  Hi boy

  Why do your cowboy running around, is he trying to find safe haven for his period in exile or what the hell is going on?

  Cowboy don’t know any politics and I think he should drink his beer in Juba or Gogriel. Anyway I love people of Bhar El Ghazel but not this guy who don’t even remember the recent SPLA fighters like Ngachigak from Murle the first high command to die in the war (Kapoeta), now he bribe new comers to give him new support?

  Forgive negers

  God bless

  Replace cowboy with Dr. Riak or Kuol, my candidates.

  

  • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 08:19, by Mike Mike

    Who is you to stop that can canal project from continuing? we need to see it being made in the South such that the process of electricity and agricultural schemes are established at here then to stay without proper place for practicing agricultural activities. Since we have our own government now in the south, we need all kinds of activities for development to start before referendum and we should not wait upto the time that we are about to seperate. How long guys do you think we shall depend on the food that is brought from North by arab trades? those who hate such kind of development not to be carried out in the South are not good people and i wish government will not listen to their advises. Sone Southerners are good people they are always against their own development and with such act our state will remain poor for eve. No one elsewhere is going to introduce all those kind of human need to us, it is we to wake up at the moment and begin to work on them and later the expart people may come and finalise them.

    

    • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 10:56, by Deng Yak L

      Mr. Mike Mike

      You have right to ask me that question because you are short sigh person, what is in my mind is not just to get good thing without calculating the disadvantages it will cause to my people, i’m not narcissistic person, i don’t eat food which will cause me a stomach pain, but seeing it first, man what i’m seeing is what will happen after 20 years from now, so don’t misquote me. Idon’t want what will annihilate my area and my community i’m not narcissistic person but for all.

      Please you are too young in politics, you don’t have room for challenging me i’m MATHON MAHTON in politics this Canal will bring problem to all of us and it will create conflict between Egyp and Sudan. Because Egyt is in need of river Nile water for its benefite , you need to know if they get water from our Nile what will they do ? definetly they will be against us, Arab are good when they are begging you but after the gain what they wanted they turn to be your enemy, please learn more.

      BY MATHON MATHON

      

    • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 11:38, by Deng Yak L

      Mr. Mike Mike

      You have have right to ask me that question, because you have short sigh what is in my mind is something which will happen after 20 years , i’m not seeing only the food which is given to me but the disadvantage which it will cause , i know the badness of Jonglei Canal and the goodness of it

      please i was not born to support what will annihilate my community (ies) but to help them, i’m not short sigh what you are seeing now is not what iam seeing , i have vision for my people and communities.

      please you are young in politics , really too young

      by MATHON MATHON

      

    • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 11:43, by Francis

      Mike Mike

      The bullet could be hissing on someone head to impede that project my friend, believe me or yourself.

      There will be no practical jokes

      I. No fear

      II. No Dinka or Nuer

      III. No Murle

      All of whom will fight to bring that Canal to an end.

      

• Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 10:55, by Hillary B.M.L,M

  South Sudanese are very happy when they have big bellies and get seats in front of Audiences airing lies and flatters unknowing that Fatness is a terrible disease. Going somewhere for them is a pride and honor and get false greetings without realizing humiliation. WO,WO,WO! same on you Hypocrites!!!

  

  • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 11:30, by Ajuscommando

    Dear Eguptian president,

    Please don’t take Jonglei canal issue as a joke between you and Southerners. Enough is enough and if you have the complaint than ask Khartoum to pay you back for the money they have taken from you and forget of Jonglei matter if you are wise.

    Ajus

    

    • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 12:15, by Gievn Mundari

      Mr Kiir keep on touring the world because your days are coming to an end as the goss president which actually was a dream to you, you have visited all parts of the world what has changed in the south? nothing shame on you i knew in the very day that you made your first speech in Juba on the 1st april 2006 on the go back to school that you are the most stupid president this continent have ever produced. God save us southerners under the so called president

      

      • Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 21:31, by Tuaks

        Dear First Vice President Silva Kiir

        Egyptian are selfish people, they always do what benefit them, do not repeat what General Aboud did fifty years ago. Remeber what happened to Hasfa, and to our historic sites in Northern Sudan,and what was the fate or the destiny of our People in Northern Sudan. We sinked our Land , our means generating income of Tourism to buy Arabization and false identity. We People of Jonglei are not interesting in Jonglei Canal Scheme. Our water is our natural resources, and Egyptians are trying to fool us and steal our water resources, to scatter our peoples again . Dear Jonglei Brothers if Salva Kiir attempt to resume Jonglei Canal , we should immidiately move toward Juba to overthrow him, or we rebel against him, simply because Jonglei will turn to Desert or Sahara and our poor people will loose our Livestocks, and Agricultural Lands as wellas fish, and we that our local people are depending on thses resources. Our climate will change the rain season will diminish. HIS EXECELLENCY THE VICE PRESIDENT SHOULD ONLY TALK ON/ABOUT HALAYEB, AND OTHER DIPLOMATC AFFAIRS, BUT NOT JONGLEI CANAL. Mighty Jonglei people who started started revolution in Bor and fought for decades to defeated the enemy can force you to step down Mr First Vice President, and I will initiate it.

        

• Sudan First Vice president Kiir begins visit to Egypt 25 October 2009 18:28, by kingdom

  That is what the southerners are expecting from you president Kiir,travelling around the Africa regions and abroad will automatically let us achieve our beloved New Sudan by gaining support around the world!!!