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October 20, 2009 (KHARTOUM) – The Vice President of the republic and the Vice President of southern Sudan government and SPLM deputy chairman today resumed discussions on an agreement reached last week on the details of the 2011 referendum.

After 12 months of heated negotiations on referendum law, Ali Osman Taha and Dr Riek Machar last Thursday reached a breakthrough deal accordingly the South can secede with a simple majority but this requires a voter turnout of two-thirds.

The co-chairs of the Joint Political Executive Committee during talks they held Tuesday in Khartoum finalized other parts in the agreement but it should be endorsed by the leadership of the two peace signatories.

Machar is flying back to Juba on Wednesday morning for consultations with the SPLM leadership before the initialization of the agreement.

Once initialed by the two parties, the bill would then be presented to the national Constitutional Review Commission (CRC) before it goes to the national Council of Ministers and parliament for final endorsement by the current last session before the end of the year.

Up to last week the NCP and SPLM agreed that the referendum exercise would be organized during a period of three days from the 9th to 11th January 2011.

They have also agreed that the exercise of the referendum can be repeated within sixty (60) days in case the first exercise fails to attain the 2/3 voters turnout.

The agreement also included several other issues among which are the qualifications of voters and voting centers in addition to composition of the referendum commission.

Machar and Taha agreed on Tuesday night to start working on the Abyei referendum and Popular Consultations. At the same meeting, the two former foes discussed a proposal that would resolve the deadlock on census and election.

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  • 21 October 2009 04:10, by Dinka Dominated SPLA

    Anything that wicked man RIEK Machar can do is NOT gone be trusted lat him do it and we will do more observation in case of lat us down.

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    • 21 October 2009 04:15, by Pandit

      Mr. Dinka Dominated SPLA

      Riek is better than yourself

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      • 21 October 2009 04:47, by wang

        Without Machar involvement in this Talks MR Dika, there will no any dream about the 2011 Referndum for the Southern Sudan. We all know Machar is better man for this job than anyone among us when it come to defending his own nation—

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        • 21 October 2009 09:43, by Aduol Liet

          Wang.

          Your arrogantness will not let Neur politician to be elected in the future to come this is not joke my friend.

          For the SPLM, Please watchout Dr, Riak Machar Teny careful.

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      • 21 October 2009 06:26, by tiomdit_maker

        Yes you are right Mr. Pandit Riek Machar is better than anybody when it come to gambling.But don’t say politic or commitment,he doesn’t know those thing.He just like to exposed himself to public that all he knows better.Thanks.

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    • 21 October 2009 05:05, by samuel_kur@yahoo.ca

      Dinka Dominand SPLA boy or what you call yourself. why you don’t courage to reveal your true name, if you are not any thing?

      What do you mean by insulting Dr. Riek every time, even when he is doing his job.

      I think you need some discipline School man, you have gone more than the normal hatred, which will not going to help you in further. Dr. Riek is just a politician like any politician in south, why are you picking on him always?

      If you mean Dr. Riek have once mistaken, does it mean he will always be the only one, who would always get mistake.
      Please gentle man be honest, that is politic, he is a human being he felt in a mistake yesterday and you will fall in it tomorrow.

      Please, leave the man alone to do his job, do not get bitten of what he did, he is doing that for you, if you think he doesn’t have any dignity, you are lying for your self, and also will put you in a bad position, if you are intellectual person.

      Don’t try to dishonor our leaders.

      Bye

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    • 21 October 2009 05:20, by Rambang Deng

      Commander Dr.Riek Machar was battlion comander of Muormuor Battlion who captured Malut, Wangkei, Mayom, Leer, and Ganyliel in Greater Upper Nile State.

      He championed the Self Determination for South Sudan and is currently doing his job as Vice President of GOSS.

      On the other hand, your semi-illetrate corrupt Banylueth is busy with whisky in Juba, molesting childrens.

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      • 21 October 2009 23:59, by Aduol Liet

        Rambang Deng.

        There is no Banylueth in Dinka societies and that is why any Bany come from Dinka make good things for the Country. Yes, I would agree that, Riak Machar Teny is from Mour Mour Battalion but he did nothing in Upper Nile Region at that time and I wish you must not lies about those Locations you have mentions on the above, there was no Sudanese government in those Locations, but only polices Forces in Mayom and Malut.

        I knew the back-ground of all these assumed their leaderships in the SPLA/SPLM/GOSS. I am probable may have knew 95% in their all back-ground and their history from Sudan to the SPLA/SPLM Movement and I knew them who did bad things in the movement and who did good things in the SPLA/SPLM/Movement but I am not going to buy your lies.

        For the Neur side, I can remembered merely few people did good things particular, the late William Nyuon Bany heroes but Riak Machar Teny had kill him during his SPLM Nassir defaction and now you guys supporting Riak Machar Teny while he had murdder this braver man and many more in the SPLA ranks.

        I also remembered the guy which was been appointed recently Mr,James Hoth Mai is another good man unlike Traitor Riak Machar Teny who had murdders the SPLA ranks William Nyuon Bany, Kerubino Kuanyin Bol, Dr, Akoon Dhor Ariik and many thousand Dinkas ranks who were in Upper Nile Riak Machar Teny had murddering them. Look this Dr, Riak Machar Teny has a blood in his hand of Southern Sudanese people especially Dinkas,Neurs and he must go hell. If he don’t leave Southern Sudan I am going to formed another movement in Southern Sudan against him.

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    • 21 October 2009 06:22, by tiomdit_maker

      To all the south sudan Politician plus SPLM/A lEADERSHIP.
      If all of you agreed that Riek Machar will the negotiator between govt of south and NCP.Than you guy need to scrutized his work befopre anything sign.And I suggested that he should be the negotiator not the signer of nay document.Thanks.

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    • 21 October 2009 14:42, by mathem jech amer

      Dinka Dominated SPLA

      Please refrain from misusing this phrase. You are non Dinka. You should use your Nuer or Equatotian name.

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    • 22 October 2009 17:19, by Wiyual Wech Puk D. Payol.

      Oh!! people of Dinka,you are always talking about Riek Machar.i think Dr Riek Machar is better than 100 illiterate Dinka including your Salva.

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  • 21 October 2009 04:11, by Pandit

    Mr. Vice President

    Don’t let them cheat you again like your past agreement in 1992

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  • 21 October 2009 04:15, by Lil Jiok by laws

    Machar,and Taha, are doing a great job’but we need our own Country Mr. Taha,talk to ur people.
    Good luck

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    • 21 October 2009 04:48, by Malakal

      Machar seems to be doing well in the way these news are sounding, but his reluctancy to condemn the likes of Paulino Matip’s malitias is a significant irony in his work as a South Sudan’s vice president. It is premature to credit him for his work at these early stages, considering his past history-which indicate disloyalty to the SPLM.

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  • 21 October 2009 05:03, by Dinka Boy

    Great job but we have to wait for some minutes.
    Our Riek Machar is always a flip flap leader who can not be trust at the introductory stage.
    Thanks

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    • 21 October 2009 05:19, by Rambang Deng

      Dinka asshole;

      Commander Dr.Riek Machar was battlion comander of Muormuor Battlion who captured Malut, Wangkei, Mayom, Leer, and Ganyliel in Greater Upper Nile State.

      He championed the Self Determination for South Sudan and is currently doing his job as Vice President of GOSS.

      On the other hand, your semi-illetrate corrupt Banylueth is busy with whisky in Juba, molesting childrens.

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      • 21 October 2009 05:53, by junub

        Rambang,

        You are just an idiot pro-Arab militia who had no clue about revolutionary history. You have a right not to know even because you were not in the movement, but on Khartoum streets scavaging on Arabs’ leftovers. What towns are you lying saying militia Riek Machar have captured. Man these outposts were handed over by traitor Riek Machar to his master Arabs, but we got them back with our minds through Machakos Agreement. Know it if you don’t know it militia boy. What self-determination are you talking about while we have not yet separated. you are just a dummy Nuer militia I haven’t got before. Militia, do you know the different between 50% and 2/3? I bet you don’t know that why you are asshole at great Monyjang. Here, I will clear it into your nyagat mind militia bastard, lets a summed the population of Southern Sudan is 100 people, got it? The 50% of 100 is a half of 100. That is in percentage, but in fraction, it is 1/2 which is still the same as 50%. Coming to 2/3 they are saying, it is 67% of 100. So where is the lodgic which pleased you here about militia Riek’s performance if your are not a nyagat?

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        • 21 October 2009 05:56, by thieleling

          Dinka-Boy, Malakal, Junub...

          The fact is Dr. Riek is doing a national work, negotiating Referendum on behalf of the whole south sudan, Abyei, and Popular Consultation for Blue Nile/Nuba mt. But Dinkas like you are putting their emotions a head of facts.

          While Dr. Riek is diplomatically negotiating the making of the nation of south sudan in khartoum; Kiir’s callous disregard for human life short-changed south sudan’s gains. Kiir only knows master-minding the killing of innocent child and a woman smashing them with a national army tank in his recent Bentiu bloody-atrocities.

          This is against south sudanese!! Even the enemy Jellaba does not smash children and women with tank in broad day light, not at least during peace time. Kiir kills children and women during this peace time!! And you bravo Kiir on this? What a shame!!

          All Kiir does is rising bloodshed among south sudanese. He made Goss becomes violator of the human rights of its own citizens. This is detrimental of honest fact and truth that Dr. Machar is championing for south sudanese.

          "Machar is flying back to Juba on Wednesday morning for consultations with the SPLM leadership before the initialization of the agreement". The above quote is not true!! Dr. Machar is NOT coming back to Juba until next Monday. There is more negotiation to do with NCP’s Taha in khartoum.

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          • 21 October 2009 14:48, by mathem jech amer

            Thieleling

            Do you mean Nuers don’t have tanks to crash Dinkas? Ahahahah, what a great excitment it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        • 21 October 2009 06:25, by Rambang Deng

          Junub:

          You coward slave Dinka always talking about liberating Sudan when your own ass were slaves to Nuers. Can someone claim to liberate a country in which he/she is a potential slave?

          You sell your kids to Arabs in this 21st Century and the Europeans have to buy them back for you guys with just $50 United States Dollars, making a Dinka the cheapest human beings alive today.

          You don’t want to come home now, choosing to live in Equatoria because you fear The Nuers and you Dinka still shamelessly lying to Equatorians that you liberate them from Arabs. What can of wariors Dinka are who cannot even liberate themselves, let alone the whole Southern Sudan?

          We are coming and your cheap slave corrupt greedy cowardic ass is on fire again.

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          • 21 October 2009 06:55, by junub

            Rambang,

            You are just a moron Nuer militia really. How dear you didn’t know the different between 1/2 and 2/3. Nyagat, once again let me educate you the different between 50% and 2/3. Traitor, the 50 is written in percentage and 2/3 in fraction but they are not the same. 50% is 1/2 in fraction whereas the 2/3 is 67% in percentage. I bet you know the different right now and so should you know whether we won or lost on referendum again. I don’t wants to talks about this militia leader and the spokeman of other militia leader Matip Nhial, I means Riek Machar. This guy is an idiot whom everyone knows have not won’t anything ever since he born. Starting with Khartoum Agreement, LRA peace talks, and the infighting between Lou Nuer and Gajack.

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      • 21 October 2009 06:30, by peter gatdet

        Rambang Deng

        you must have to advise our leader Dr Riek not to take Cocane to much during negotiation hours.

        Thank.

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    • 21 October 2009 05:22, by samuel_kur@yahoo.ca

      Dinka Boy or Nuer Boy what ever you are

      Dr. Riek is not a flop flap man as you think, he is a great man of faith, if he said he want to do some thing he really do it for good.

      Ask the people who knows him in real, he is not any thing like you think, i believe in his capabilities,and wisdom of fullness thinking. If he was a delusional person, he would not decided to rejoin the movement.

      I believe he is working with full heart, if he will flip flap as you think, it will be people like you will push him away for their own interest.

      Please keep your tongue short with you or cut it, if you are not able to keep it.

      Bye

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      • 21 October 2009 07:37, by Alem Peter

        Samuel K,Kim Deng and J.James

        Do you know why CPA was achieved?It is b,se it did involved any Nuer signature,Dinkas must be delegate for such negotiation to Khartoum,Dinkas re rigid to bribe.

        NUER: (Never Understand Essential Reputation)

        DINKA:(Determine Intelligent Naath Know Aptitude)

        DINKA, Oyeeee, Leaders of South Sudan Oyeeeeeeeeeeeeee/

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    • 21 October 2009 05:33, by Angelo Ajiech Manyuat

      Readers, let’s give thanks and credits to those who deserve it. I strongly believe that vice president Dr. Riak Machar is doing his best this time. What kind of a leadership do we expect from our leaders. Keep up good work vice president and don’t mind tribalist comments. All Southerners are now grateful and thanks you for your role. The only thing I don’t appreciate from you and Salva Kiir is corruption and insecurity. Corruption and insecurity is a big issue which is suppose to be address seriously. I mean it’s awful in your leadership. The writer is a concern citizen of S. Sudan who like to see all citizens of S.Sudan live in peace.

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      • 21 October 2009 06:15, by junub

        Manyuat,

        Are you trying to tell us to count egg as chicken as you are or what in christ you wants to tell us really? First of all what have he done? Explain or mention them. If you wants to say because of referendum then I bet you should know a different between percentage and fraction before you reach to conclusion. Fellow, 50% is 1/2 in fraction, and 2/3 is about 70%. So do culculation and asked yourself, where is the 51% gone? Angelo, this kind of technical numbering is done mainly to fool the illitrate militia people in Southern Sudan that something is about to be acheived soon. Hell no that is a lie. Other Bullshit there is this, After "60 days" three months, referendum can be conducted again if it failed at the first time. Did you get that? Well, know it right now it is not easy just to pass the Referendum Laws leave alone to repeat it again. Man I give myself to explained all these to you because I assumed you might be a patriotic Monyjang but not a Nuer militia.

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    • 21 October 2009 05:54, by thieleling

      Dinka-Boy, Malakal,

      The fact is Dr. Riek is doing a national work, negotiating Referendum on behalf of the whole south sudan, Abyei, and Popular Consultation for Blue Nile/Nuba mt. But Dinkas like you are putting their emotions a head of facts.

      While Dr. Riek is diplomatically negotiating the making of the nation of south sudan in khartoum; Kiir’s callous disregard for human life short-changed south sudan’s gains. Kiir only knows master-minding the killing of innocent child and a woman smashing them with a national army tank in his recent Bentiu bloody-atrocities.

      This is against south sudanese!! Even the enemy Jellaba does not smash children and women with tank in broad day light, not at least during peace time. Kiir kills children and women during this peace time!! And you bravo Kiir on this? What a shame!!

      All Kiir does is rising bloodshed among south sudanese. He made Goss becomes violator of the human rights of its own citizens. This is detrimental of honest fact and truth that Dr. Machar is championing for south sudanese.

      "Machar is flying back to Juba on Wednesday morning for consultations with the SPLM leadership before the initialization of the agreement". The above quote is not true!! Dr. Machar is NOT coming back to Juba until next Monday. There is more negotiation to do with NCP’s Taha in khartoum.

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      • 21 October 2009 06:28, by junub

        Thieleling,

        You are just an idiot pro-Arab militia Nuer boy. Good if your hell let you know that nothing can be essential without the militia leader Machar flew back and crawls to president Kiir. First of all if you were not really nyagat, you would have known the different between 1/2 and 2/3; 50% and 67%. That 2/3 obligation to Southern Sudan people to have their nation is 67% not 51% anymore, got militia? Do calculation and tells your other pro-Arab Nuer militia in Nuer dialog that 2/3 is not 51% anymore but 67%. Please particularly, lets your pro-Arab militia leader Matip Nhial know because he is the victim here.

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  • 21 October 2009 05:21, by Jamjamez

    The two questions needed to be answered are: where will the vote be counted after voting? How many people should count for 2/3 of the voters?

    It seems like the NCP has something in Place to hinder the voter turn out during the referendum,and will try to hinder it so we can go for other six months and by then, they would have planned another hinderance.

    Just be careful when planning the destiny for the southern Sudanese guys, Be extremely witful about this issues.
    thanks.

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    • 21 October 2009 06:13, by Dinka Boy

      Mr Jamjamez,
      that is the same question iam really worried too.
      The NCP have hide something behind the agenda. Anyway, eventhough the hide anything behind then it will also feed them because we SPLM could not tollerate any North aggression. Enough is enough for the mistake of 1972( Addis Ababa) convenant.
      Thanks

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  • 21 October 2009 05:57, by mohammed osman

    Osman taha you are now our only man inside this NCP regimes, they tried to overthrow yu but with no success because allah is on your side ,this wicked mans Omer Basher he is going to pay his dues to the northerns people very soon.Osman i applaud your hard work to let this southerners go their way, we do not want to live with them anymore, we want our pure Islamic state only rules by Arabs not even Darfur black muslims will put their dirty hands inside our systems.Osman taha you are now the holder of the isloamic movement banner in sudan since the conspiracy plotted by this NCP savages of Omer ,Ghazi and ISsmail against your leader al turabi.Let the southerners savages got hen we gones to deal with this NCP plotters of Omer basher, they will pay for mistreating us the northerners Arabs. allah akbar

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    • 21 October 2009 06:45, by Kim Deng

      Coward Jaang/Slaves,

      Don’t you know that it was Dr. Riek Machar your savior who advised the Mighty Nuer Warriors/Jech-in-Bor not to occupy Duk Padiet up to Mading Bor in 1991 incident? Some of you went further deny Dr. Riek Machar Teny-Dhurgon credit from the movement he changed from your King’s self-claimed malepratice poor vision "New Sudan" to self-determination for South Sudan.

      The SPLA forces under the command of Dr. Riek Machar did not only capture those mentioned towns, but also wounded Mr. Omar Bashir himself, the president of the Sudan in those dark days. Yet your hatred toward Naath ethnic group liquidated your mind to admit the fact beyond the reasonable doubt.

      It’s Naath as a community generosity to feed the GoSS with its 98% oil and as such, it should deserve appreciation/credit for doing so, but instead your coward Jaang/Slaves community digging its grave unknowingly. Where will you be after the Mighty Nuer ethnic group declare their own Country (from Biemnom/Ruweng to Gambella and from Reng to Mading Bor) by the year 2020?

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      • 21 October 2009 07:02, by Dinka Boy

        Mr Kim Deng,
        You guys never heard that your people are fighting themselves in Lou Nuer land.
        Mitilia leader Mabil was jail last week because your community was mad on him because of a lot of militia killed in Duk-Padiet inccident.
        The Nuer Lou victim from Uror and Gawaar did fight last week and that was the incident that was reported by Hussein Mar that 7 people killed and 12 wounded.
        The death victims were so sad about the death with no cause.
        I believed you get the point.

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      • 23 October 2009 02:09, by Khent

        Coward Kim Deng:

        Much of the fighting in the civil war has been executed by the Dinka, it was our blood which re-captured 90% of South Sudan, and our signatures brought the CPA; we extended the war to the Nuba Mountains, southern Blue Nile, Ignessa Hills and eastern Sudan.

        From William Abdulla Chuol, to Paulino Matip, and more recently to Riek Machar- the north has always financed and armed other tribes against the Dinka. Why do you think that is?

        You talk about killing women and children, but when men returned, you ran the like the cowards you are; Garang’s SPLA (Dinka men) returned and you ran from Kongor, the counterattacks devastated Yuai, Waat and Ayod. Riek returned to the movement on his knees, when the victories of the Dinka constituted SPLA could no longer be ignored.

        Do you recall (in 1999) when 80, 000 Nuer civilians were forcibaly removed from the oil-fields by Paulino Matip Nhial, in which they fled to Bahr el Ghazel? Do you remember that? Do you remember the humanity the Dinka displayed?

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    • 21 October 2009 12:59, by mohammed ali

      You are not MUSLIM , and Ali Osman is A VERY BLACK MAN and we do not hate neither Darfuri nor Southerners. In fact Dafur is 100 % muslims and you can find there the gretest number of Hafiz ( who can recite Quran by heart ) on Earth,and we do not want a state build on race. Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) has never adressed his audiance as Arabs, not even as belivers , he adresses them as people, human- beings..YA AYOHA AL NAS. We do want to live with Southerners , only if they want, and they are not dirty, some of them are better than us ,some are the same as us and some worset, and likewise we are the same,and we are neither white nor pure Arabs and Arabs are not the best humans on earth neither they are the worst , but we are trying to be good Muslisms, we are not there yet and the way you talk does,t make you a muslim at all.

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  • 21 October 2009 06:29, by dotcom

    my fellow southerners,

    I think it has become a concern to me and every other peace loving southerner here on the web to read a filthy and tribally charged commentary that are wittingly twisted to serve the interest of our main enemy. ya jamaa, when will we learn that we are creating destructions for ourselves? honestly speaking, I have been a full member of so many public forums and discussion boards of many nationalities and i have never found any of them to be so tribal as this! and most of all they are not intellectually any better than us! we may have a high illiteracy rate (76%) than them but that doesn’t substitute for good manners. so what are we missing here? why dont we forgive ourselves sometimes when the situation runs out of hand and avoid blaming this or that tribe for the cause of the problem? if i can borrow this lines from Lucky Dube: "THE CATS AND THE DOGS HAVE FORGIVEN EACH OTHER, WHAT IS WRONG WITH US?". does criticising another tribe make you an hero to your community or are we just angry at the world because of the atrocities we went through?
    It is completely devastating and sad. I think behind everyone of us, there is at least one or two good people that may change our emotions for the better at some point. There is nothing wrong with writing a positive commentary even if you feel like a seller to your tribe, especially when you are pointing out the truth! Every single tribe in South Sudan have contributed directly or indirectly to bringing us up to where we are today, no question about that. Even if that contribution means giving food or cattle to our soldiers back in those tough days or helped our soldiers ferry across the rivers etc. that contribution too cannot be ignored or belittled by any of us here! We can’t convince them to acknowledge that they haven’t contributed anything, that’s pathetic! When was the time that you convinced a fool that he/she is nothing but a fool and they agreed? Never!
    if our problems here on the World Wide Web are things to do with lack of digesting a news media articles that are too biased, why don’t we direct our comments to the one who wrote that personally than generalising their community? lets learn to be constructive and judge our comments individually, not in general terms. Lets learnt to ignore those who divert the topic to something tribally fuelled that serve their personal interest. because they will feel belittled if they write on the discussion and nobody respond to them. Remember that they cannot brainwash anyone using those hatred comments. lets articulate our statement professionally and positively to save our unity as a south sudanese. you cannot be famous for intimidating others!

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    • 21 October 2009 06:36, by dotcom

      please lets learn to refrain from using words that degrade us. lets use our being here on the web as a way to create friends, bringing peace to our devastated homeland as well as a way to prove to the world that we as South Sudanese are capable of governing ourselves.
      I feel sorry for anyone who feel demeaned by my comments. they are entirely my own opinion and that they don’t represent any of those of where I come from.

      Thank you all.

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      • 21 October 2009 08:07, by Gatbentiu

        My dear Southerners.

        Stop insulting our leaders, when are we going to recognized Riek as capable leader?
        Because of DR Riek there is now progress in the coming 2011 referendum,the two DRs of Southern Sudan has different vision for the same country Dr Salva ’s vision is of new Sudan while DR Machar ’s vision is of Southern Sudan to stand as separate state from North.

        If we don’t solved these differences before 2011 most of us will Neither vote nor talk about separation which we are all yearning for.

        Congratulation DR Riek for the job well done.

        dholbentiu@gmail.com

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  • 21 October 2009 08:09, by Critic_Ngueny

    Samuel Kur is confused but he does not know that he is.My dear brother Kur,it is good to call a spade a spade but not a big spoon.Is that how you are taught by your parents;then I am sorry indeed?What is your problem with some of the writers in Southern Sudan?

    If you have nothing to say you better keep mum instead of barking at people.Do you want to play a joke on Dinkas’name by calling yourself Kur?What I know so far you are not a Dinka.Bear in mind that I am ready with words of most destruction.

    Critic_Ngueny from Bor town.

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    • 21 October 2009 15:04, by samuel_kur@yahoo.ca

      Critic Ngueny

      I do Appreciate your comment against me, But i don’t see things as you see, that is why my name is different than your name, what you think is good i don’t think is good, as you do also, what i think is good you don’t think is good.

      I don’t think so i am confused, that is why i am intellectual and civilized than you think, people should not go with any wind that bellows by, or go with any water like a fish do, real people have determination of thinking carefully not to go with tribalism wind as you do.

      I don’t see any reason that could prevent me of appreciating good things, as i don’t see any reason to hate Dr. Riek Machar by the name of Dinka,or Nuer, or Shiluk. As Dr. Riek is a vice president in our government, if he is not acceptable person, why do south Sudan people accepted him as a vice president.

      I think no reason at all Mr. Critic Ngueny, we should hate people because of their tribes,The Almighty God created human in his image as they are totally equal at his face, no human is better than other,if God knows there is a best human in the world, why doesn’t he destroy bad human or stop creating them?

      People in world like flower, flower has different colors for gathering insects around it, as it is with human being they are different nations, to give humanity nature a beauty of sense.

      That why i am standing with the facts,you must put in your mind, that i don’t want to convince you because you as you is to be you, but to defense my self of your accusations against me.

      In your information, i did feel bad of your comment, if you have any addition comment feel free, i believe in positive criticize debate ever.

      Good Bye my Dear, as you said i am your Dear. you are true i am your,but doesn’t mean to be a copy of you or a copy of me.

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  • 21 October 2009 08:30, by Hillary B.M.L,M

    We are to be cautious, otherwise they ( Arabs) make it simple with hidden strategy unknown to us Southerners, let those who were charged with the job be careful in analyzing every detail whether written or verbal details therein.
    Lets us try to read the Hearths (thoughts) of Arabs this Time, otherwise it will turn like the one of Anya-nya 1 and Joseph Lagu was responsible for that Mistake. This Time if the story repeated itself then Dr. Machar is accountable.

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    • 21 October 2009 08:41, by Dinka Boy

      Good job Mr Hillary,

      I am really worried for the lump some of Money that NCP are carrying now and then to be distributed to the weak heart. NCP are very smart specially to those they deceive once like Dr Riek Machar.
      Thanks brother that is my worried too because when they will write a big check to betrayers ,Dr betrayer will turn the color of the rainbow for sure.
      Thanks

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      • 21 October 2009 10:28, by mohammed ali

        There is alot of talk about the 2/3 and 51%, with the usual ( ready made explanation) the JALABA WANT TO CHEAT US !!( Why on earth you always think that you could be cheated) Let me explain to you this in simple math 2/3 is equal to 66.7 % so 51 % of 2/3 is equal to 33.4%. in other words if there are 100 eligable voters only 67 voters are needed to vote and 50+ 1 % ( that means 1/2 ) of the 67 will about 34-35 voters.Now if you relate 34-35 to the whole number of 100 eligable voters , this will make the final percent needed for seperation only about 34-35 % !!The Jalabba are making it very simple and very easy to secced, only 34% Hurrah ! you have your independent state !! Congratulation !Now what do you want from the bloody Jalabba !!

        Just to remind you again, you have been ruling us and ruling the South 100% alone , without any Jalabba interfering in your business , even the President of the State, since 2005 !! In simple words you are independent since 2005.

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        • 21 October 2009 10:50, by Hillary B.M.L,M

          Dinka Boy, Please we have to do this calculation of Mohammed Ali above otherwise this is the trick. I think we need some Mathematicians in Politic.

          Research for every BODY.

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  • 21 October 2009 10:16, by Sudan virus

    This is what any peace lover wants to hear.

    But avoid unreasonably stoppages.

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    • 21 October 2009 12:03, by Gile Gai Pal Chol

      please brothers your comments which challenged all our leaders effort will not help.
      our purpose is to stand on our own and strongly depend our own land south sudan from intruders who looted southsudan resources for many years.

      let learn to recognize our leaders effort to depend and implement CPA with out regards to tribe.

      Late: Dr.Garang has struggled for southern sudan and sudan marginalized people, not for Dinka. Dr. Riek Machar is trying his best to make sure with all his commitment that CPA signed by Lat: Garang is implemented. that task is not easy as we are dealing with Jalab which does not want southsudanese to separate and enjoy peace like others in the world.

      non of us who always comments on this article can disagree with me if i am not wrong

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    • 21 October 2009 13:12, by pinyluel

      Dear brothers and sisiters,

      I think your argument is the practice of democratic politics that we need in the South but I have been disappionted when I read some of your comments which containing with tribal tendencies whereas there is no place for them to fit in,in the south community.Here allow me to remine all of you about what you should be talking about:

      There will be two boxes,one for seperation and the other for unity.Accordingly the questiong must ask itself here and you guys need to answer the following question:
      Have you all already decided what box are you going to put your voters?.If it is yes what box?

      This is a tough time we should make a decision now and leave our differencies behind.

      I am here to challenge each every one of you that you have no any idea or goal to achieve in your meaningless argument.

      Can we just work together and stand beside our leaders to obtain the coming beautiful country?

      Thanks guys

      Pinyluel

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  • 21 October 2009 15:45, by charles Riek

    Dear Bothers and Sisters

    I wants to advice you as country men and women. if we are all recommend on south sudan development, our country will never miss interlcetual people but alway our issues on abusing our leaders and ourselves that will never develops south. why do we base on our tribes what is wrong the tribe. does it means your great when your Dinkas, Nuer,Acholi or Equatoria. this is describe only where you were born. Its great pitty if our comment are insuttation. What is wrong with Dr Riek? What I condemn is SPLM/SPLA that never bring what is people of South Sudan needs. our fathers, mothers, bothers, sisters and children die during the war and SPLM is corrupt all money for development are in Individual bank. I wish we can dismolist this packet SPLM. Because all fight for freedom and all our leaders are blind. Will country with nobody direct people success? Iam Afraid guys.

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  • 21 October 2009 17:28, by Gatwech

    Dear readers,

    There is burning jealousy about Dr. Riek Machar’s achievement on referendum law among Dinka senior leaders including Salva Kiir. They are worried that the people of South Sudan will appreciate Dr. Machar for reaching a breakthrough. They don’t want him to get the credit. What they don’t know is that the people of Sudan in particular and those in the world in general have already known that Dr. Machar did the negotiations. But can the referendum law be delayed from signing simply because of jealousy. These jealous leaders have lost their minds.

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    • 21 October 2009 18:19, by tiomdit_maker

      Mr.Gatwech.

      I think you are wrong by saying that baseless accusation toward Dinkas seniors in the SPLM/A.If really president Kiir is not happy with Dr.Riek Machar his work with the GOSS, he would have replace him with somebody else definitely.

      And I don’t think there would be a problem at all as you always preached we"We the Nuers peopl we are very strong.Machar is not holding that position of vice by force or he is more qualify than evrybody else, I don’t think so.

      As you also would have know known during peace talks in Kenya.Serveral people have headed the talk with sudan govt,but does’nt make them more official than anybody,not all. And some of them have been replaced and bring in another one, until the peace was sign.

      For your information also, if dinka seniors are agaist Machar I don’t think Machar would hold still that position up to now.Please think twic before you blow bad spirit, I know you are good tribalist but your tribe can do nothing to Dinka as whole.Thanks.

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  • 23 October 2009 02:18, by Khent

    Coward Kim Deng:

    Much of the fighting in the civil war has been executed by the Dinka, it was our blood which re-captured 90% of South Sudan, and our signatures brought the CPA; we extended the war to the Nuba Mountains, southern Blue Nile, Ignessa Hills and eastern Sudan.

    From William Abdulla Chuol, to Paulino Matip, and more recently to Riek Machar- the north has always financed and armed other tribes against the Dinka. Why do you think that is?

    You talk about killing women and children, but when men returned, you ran the like the cowards you are; Garang’s SPLA (Dinka men) returned and you ran from Kongor, the counterattacks devastated Yuai, Waat and Ayod. Riek returned to the movement on his knees, when the victories of the Dinka constituted SPLA could no longer be ignored.

    Do you recall (in 1999) when 80, 000 Nuer civilians were forcibaly removed from the oil-fields by Paulino Matip Nhial, in which they fled to Bahr el Ghazel? Do you remember that? Do you remember the humanity the Dinka displayed?

    Do you remember the weapons that Omar Al Bashir gave to Riek Machar? The man did not fight Bashir, Riek was Bashir’s little slave.

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