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By James Gatdet Dak

September 17, 2009 (JUBA) – A senior official of the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) has said Southern Sudanese residing in the national capital, Khartoum, will be allowed to vote in the upcoming 2011 referendum.

South Sudan is scheduled to exercise its right of self-determination in 2011 as the Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA) signed in 2005 stipulates. However, both sides are deadlocked over the referendum law that would set the modalities and logistics required to conduct the referendum.

Both sides disagree over the percentage of votes required to call the referendum a pro-independence, the population of Southerners allowed to participate and the post-independence arrangements including the share of national debt to be carried over by the South.

On who can take part in the referendum, the NCP insists that all the southerners inside and outside southern Sudan should be allowed to participate in the self determination exercise, but the SPLM wants only southern Sudan residents to cast their vote during the referendum.

Michael Makuei Lueth, minister for Legal Affairs and Constitutional Development in the semi-autonomous Government of Southern Sudan (GoSS) and legal advisor to the SPLM Executive Political Committee said his party has agreed to allow residents of Khartoum who are the people of Southern Sudan to cast their votes.

Makuei further explained that such a compromise is attached to the condition that the Khartoum exercise will be monitored jointly by the United Nations (UN), International Organization for Migration (IOM), Southern Sudan Referendum Commission (SSRC) and Southern Sudanese associations in the national capital.

He re-affirmed the SPLM’s position that Southern Sudanese in other northern states will not be allowed to vote.

Makuei further added that there is still a huge gap of differences between the two parties on other contentious issues among which included the percentages required to confirm unity of the country or declare independence for the South.

He said a meeting would take place on Thursday evening between the Vice President of the Republic Ali Osman Mohamed Taha and the Government of Southern Sudan’s Vice President, Dr. Riek Machar Teny, to try to narrow the gap.

However, the SPLM Deputy Secretary General for Northern Sector, Yasir Arman, is reported to have said that all Southern Sudanese residing in all states of northern Sudan will be allowed to vote without any exception.

The two parties have been locked in hot debates over formulation of the referendum law that would pave the way for the people of Southern Sudan to vote to either confirm the current unity of Sudan or create an independent country in January 2011.

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  • 18 September 2009 08:07, by Moses Kur Akech

    Don’t forget the vanue for counting and storage of the votes has to be Juba for the sake of safety of the votes.

    I am very certain that NCP will outwit SPLM to allow Khartoum as the vanue for storage and counting of votes. If SPLM accepts Khartoum as the vanue, there is no doubt that it will be a great victory to regime which hasn’t got any allegy to rigging votes to secure its interest of unity for South resources. Most acceptably, Juba is a safe place to store and count votes under North, South and International observers.

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    • 18 September 2009 09:22, by Gatwech

      Moses Kur Akech,

      I do share with you the concerns you have raised about the need to count the votes in Juba. However, this will not be an easy fight to secure it. The seat of our (South Sudan) referendum commission was already sold to Khartoum by the CPA of 9th January 2005 with the blessing of our late hero Dr. John Garang de Mabior.

      By the virtue of Khartoum being the headquarters of referendum commission, the NCP will insist that the counting will take place there. I hope you remember the census counting saga? Despite having the census branch in Juba, the counting finalized in Khartoum. And the result was, well, every body knew it.

      Now, having said that, it important for Dr. Riek Machar’s committee to maneuver for a rescue plan. Yes, demanding a branch office in Juba is one of those rescue plans. If the NCP would agree to the counting to take place in Juba would really be very big achievement. Any how, if a branch office is opened in Juba, the office would do preliminary counting of the votes in the South before submitting the number to the Khartoum office for future reference in case of differences.

      Another dangerous thing now surfacing is the likely split of interest internally in the SPLM. Dr. Machar’s committee should not only concentrate on the external NCP, but internal unionists like Yasser Arman who come up with different statements. It looks like we have entered a critical stage where both unionists and separatists within the SPLM show their true colours. This is dangerous because it will sabotage the very supposedly unified effort of the SPLM to face the NCP.

      I pray that others like Malik Agar will not pop up with yet another interpretation of the self-determination with its alien wording "inter alia" to mean any other third option in the referendum.

      If Khartoum residents who are "the people of Southern Sudan" are compromised to vote, let the mechanisms be put in place to ensure that there will be no rigging. Good enough that NCP said the population of southerners in the whole of northern Sudan is only half million (500,000). Out of the total number may be Khartoum would have only 300,000 of them. This is not a big threat to the 8 million southerners of which more than 90% have already voiced their intent to vote for separation. But who knows, Khartoum may surprise us in 2011 that the population of Southerners in Khartoum has reached 4 million.

      All in all, let NCP not forget that failure to come up with a fairer referendum law, the South will be forced to declare independence unilaterally by January 2011. And in this case the SPLM should not compromise more on this. They must stick to the demand of 51% simple majority vote to declare the South as independent. My immediate concern is the internal split between unionists and separatists in the team negotiating for the referendum.

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      • 18 September 2009 11:04, by Biliu

        You are right to the point Mr. Gatwech, if North is the venue for vote counting, there will be discrepancies on those votes, I’m not worrying of those votes in Khartoum because we know their number and should not exceeded the (500’000) stated on the census but of those will come from Southern states into Khartoum, a sub-committee will do in case NCP allowed a marginal counting of the votes in Juba before their submission.

        On the other hand, it’s not a surprise that unionist like Yassir Araman or Malik Aggar will come out with different opinion, I think the Vision of liberated Sudan is not including them this time around, we let them down as all anticipations headed for South independence, the question aching their heads now is ….where we will be after south independence?

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        • 18 September 2009 14:01, by kuur Deng

          Dear southerners,

          I do not i gree at all with whatever you people commenting and talking about.It is simply because we heard ,we see ,we smell and we feel it. We had already known what is the deal between the SPLM and NCP/NIF.

          Now are we blind,stupid and mad? the message is simple and clear.Who have not see and heard about the census results when they were process in Khartoum it is absolutely the same thing that is likely to happen to the so called referendum results.

          You always say that it will automatically rain if we show the heavy cloud on the sky and who is among you that can not struggle to remove the solid matter if he/she got chok you NEEDs to open you eyes widely.Beshir and Arab league are fighting for unity of the Sudan so that the country will still remain as an Arab country and this exactly what is fishing in between.

          I suggest that the solution is to anounce the referendum instead to beat around the bush because there is a big gap that international community will not refuse our idea and if we allow that to happen then it will be the chance for NCP to use the money they use to steal from the oil revnue to brieves southerners who do not know what they are doing to votes for unity.

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          • 18 September 2009 16:29, by Gatwech

            Kuur Deng,

            In your solution provided in your last paragraph you said, "I suggest that the solution is to anounce the referendum instead to beat around the bush..." What do you mean? Which referendum do we announce and how? Do you mean we should unilaterally declare independence?

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    • 18 September 2009 21:08, by ngor martyn jok

      Hey,this is a matter of concern to everybody who has the guts-some sort of interest as a South Sudanese.There’s no much about worrying but,let’s wait for the best day to define the destiny.I don’t think if with all ways here that we convince our souls for Separation would continue every each day,we would get in to defining the really moment of our lives.

      Clearly,we will for ever stand as South Sudan ...and even realistically they know we ’re going for an independence of our beloved nation-South Sudan .It’s all about waiting for that day to sing the real song of independence of the Republic of South Sudan.
      If I need hell for life ,then surely I will make it by any means to carry up such burdens of unity.
      For sure,what’s the best in Khartoum that will surely be intriguing and fascinating for unity...a place where ethics in all corridors,corners ,streets and in all institutions of substances is sharia..the great looming hell of islamic fundamentalism.Had a research at the university of Khartoum and university of sudan science and technology...instead of pushing for real ethics in educational aspirations at career level,hell of sharia/islamic culture replaces the real career ethics .By the way,no one seems to be knowing that ..but,’am letting the hell out.
      Is it really a nation of need to unite..no way,only the best exception for us to have peace of a substance for the next generation coming is Separation.

      We must live like the rest of the world with a real peace of mind,we ’re in actuality tired of this fellows..the afro-arabs.We have a really concern fraying robes so that we can again walk in light and appreciate all for us.

      What in advocating for here’s enough has been enough,we need our own standing to make life a partner for the next generation coming.
      So never mind on all that...let’s only hope to make a possibility and make a real difference in life once again.
      Let’s stand for a real separation!!!
      thanxs!!!

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  • 18 September 2009 08:10, by Kim Deng

    Mr. Yasser,

    You’re damn wrong, sir. Only those Southern Sudanese in Khartoum will be allowed to cast their as it was agreed upon by the parties. You’re caught in the middle of nowhere since the man who betrayed no only the arabized Nubian, but Nuba Mnts and Blue Nile with his poor Vision of so called "New Sudan" was gone to hell along with it.

    You better zip your mouth or quit the GoSS before it is too late for you, sir.

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  • 18 September 2009 08:13, by oshay

    If they vote for unity they’re welcome in the North if they vote for independence pack your bags and get the hell out of Khartoum! it’s crowded as it is!

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    • 18 September 2009 10:51, by Aarai Baka

      O Lord God when did referendum going to come so that I will leave the extreme virus killer in the North and come South without that virus(e.g Oshay, William oduch, Busta 2 in Christ, Ahmed, Oduck and some few small virus who were sucking the Sudanese blood in their daily live.

      I want referendum to come soon so that I will work as a border patrol to monitored Oshay and ahmed if they might across the border to South illegally to seek freedom, peace,job and have some couple of beers in peaceful mind walk down street with his with wife holding hands without being bothered by Police of Khartuom (POP)

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    • 18 September 2009 19:03, by Dinka Aliap Chawul

      @Oshay

      South is also a home,when they come to the South,it doesn`t means that they`re gonna be homeless.Independent will come to the South even when there`s no vote cast.I`m telling those who are hoping that vote will change anything towards the independent "YES" votes by Junubiin.

      Lets put in minds that some Northerners are also owning essential properties in the South.I think, its gonna be "TIT4TAT" btn North-South incase if our people are forcefully deported from the North.

      So Southerners should acts independently as homeowners.

      After succession,i’ll peacefully announce the formation of "SOUTHERN SUDAN’S PEOPLE POWER PARTY(SSPPP"

      VIVA SOUTHERNERS!VIVA THE STRUGGLES!VIVA THE STRONG SPLA MAN!

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  • 18 September 2009 08:14, by thieleling

    This is rigging of the Referendum!!

    The Devil will be in the details. The Referendum is hijacked by people like Yasser Arman. Now the SPLM’s Jallaba has shown his true color.

    "However, the SPLM Deputy Secretary General for Northern Sector, Yasir Arman, is reported to have said that all Southern Sudanese residing in all states of northern Sudan will be allowed to vote without any exception".

    Mr. Arman, what criterions are going to be used for all the Southern Sudanese who live in northern states, including Khartoum? Who are Southern Sudanese who are living in Port Sudan & the rest? This is a fast & surefire to kill the Referendum.

    Now this is done, the NCP will not agree to let all other South Sudanese in diaspora vote in referendum. The SPLM missed the golden opportunity to unite southern sudanese & declare Independence. Instead, SPLM is fighting against itself. What a shame!!

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    • 18 September 2009 08:36, by H5N1

      thats right thieleling, this is a complete rigging of referendum!!!! Jalabaz are such a wrong animals, where is my gun?.....too long 2 wait 4 2011, i declare war!!!

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      • 18 September 2009 11:49, by thieleling

        Brother H5N1,

        SPLM Jallaba Unionist Yasser Arman like his south sudanese unionists are so dangerous at this junction. Unless something positive happens within SPLM internally, the 2011 Referendum will be choatic with SPLM in disarray. The NCP is seriously laughing at SPLM about its internal squabblings.

        I am with a military Intelligence Agency somewhere else in this world, but my gun is well oiled & ready to fight for south Sudan if SPLM gets its act together & genuinely unite our south sudanese populace with no internal conspiracy. My career is in the military, especially the MI.

        I am neither interested to be intellectual or academic. I leave that for politicians or academics. I am not interested, period. I am so into the science of military hardware. But I am so ready to face our jallaba for this one last time of our Independence Republic of Southern Sudan war. "Live Free or Die"! Let genuinely unite & fight for the total liberation of South Sudan. My gun is ready!! I am glad you are so ready too!

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        • 18 September 2009 11:59, by kuminyandi

          You need to start a new revolution in the south first before you fired your gun.

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          • 18 September 2009 17:55, by H5N1

            no need 2 panic my friend. SPLA is still a revolutionary army. we havent transformed yet. so if things are going ugly like that, we betta go back to our old ways of fixing them.

            a big thankz to my brother Thieleling, military is the best career ever. no need 2 risk your eye-sight by being an academic. neither do you have to lose your dignity like those politicians that believe in looting. my barrel my life!...SPLA OYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

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    • 18 September 2009 20:12, by Arochthon

      Thiliel,

      Please note,this time round blames will never help, this issue of referendum law and the polling station for counting results, together with the idea of letting those from north have right to decide for referendum has taken almost three years from now for SPLM to get win of it. But the trick behind it has revealed, should we continue to refuse on the ground that those south Sudanese from north will not vote then that will be the fulfillment of their intention which is not the vision of SPLM.

      I hope if we would all vote as we are yearning for separation of south from north then absolutely our desire will take its course, despite the fact that there are some within SPLM who are struggling to get us back into the dent.Lets not put blames on SPLM or insulting the vision of new Sudan as a cause of all problem it was a struggle and it has to be continued by whoever believes is a Southerner.
      Keep it up SPLM you are on positive side.

      Arocthon

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  • 18 September 2009 08:23, by Dengtaath

    New Sudan, Yes we can....

    What is it? Is it a sign of favoring unity or what? Are Southern people residing in the North favor unity when they waved that banner?

    Let the people understand that any thing regarding unity is a full sign of return to war.If SPLM will let it happen then another movement will fight for South. New Sudan is not attractive at this stage, separation is much more option to achieve a full peace in Sudan.

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    • 18 September 2009 11:15, by Biliu

      Of course brother Dengaath, those bunch of traitors are already motivated to favor unity over independence, they don’t want to move south because they don’t want to lose their mouthful as they alleged, otherwise, why remaining on North till this moment!

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      • 18 September 2009 11:51, by Dengtaath

        Hi brother Beliu!

        I am telling you, the war still mounting if people don’t fully embrace the ideology of secession, both NCP and SPLM must spend resources on secession if they want a permanent peace in Sudan.
        Let them read on the net, all young intellectual Southern Sudanese are advocating for full self determination, any wrong decision will lead this country in to permanent insurgency.This is a big warning.
        I am also not happy at all about Yasir Aman statement about including all Southerners over Sudan during the referendum vote and complaince of SPLM to allow Southerners who are residing in Khortoum to take part in the referendum vote.
        These are quite astornishing.
        Dengtaath

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  • 18 September 2009 08:48, by Mabior Ayuen Dengajok

    This sort of move made by the SPLM political bureau is totally wrong; I strongly condemn it and Iam against this kind of procedure which gives National Congress Party big time to let’s non-Southerners votes during referendum in the name of South where they are not citizens of South, having said that, SPLM may have witness many misconducts carried out by NCP, first let reminds ourselves about census results.

    Where NCP very sincere on population census result? No!!!
    So if NCP can not respect simplest thing like Population census, so please don’t expect any positive out come in counting that shall be carrying out by the 2011, they are not going to let South wins, they will possibly rigged referendum results.

    Today NCP party leaders will all calls it “a victory achievement” and it’s actually a wins\loses model, they have won and SPLM lost in such a case.

    SPLM should have stick with their policy of only allowing those who reside within South to vote for referendum voting, not outside South, should have been a win full victory to all of us and today it’s regret plus worries that accompanied such outcome in Khartoum meetings.

    South you will be continuously get fooled by fools

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  • 18 September 2009 09:25, by Gatwech

    Dear readers,

    I do share with you the concerns you have raised about the need to count the votes in Juba. However, this will not be an easy fight to secure it. The seat of our (South Sudan) referendum commission was already sold to Khartoum by the CPA of 9th January 2005 with the blessing of our late hero Dr. John Garang de Mabior.

    By the virtue of Khartoum being the headquarters of referendum commission, the NCP will insist that the counting will take place there. I hope you remember the census counting saga? Despite having the census branch in Juba, the counting finalized in Khartoum. And the result was, well, every body knew it.

    Now, having said that, it important for Dr. Riek Machar’s committee to maneuver for a rescue plan. Yes, demanding a branch office in Juba is one of those rescue plans. If the NCP would agree to the counting to take place in Juba would really be very big achievement. Any how, if a branch office is opened in Juba, the office would do preliminary counting of the votes in the South before submitting the number to the Khartoum office for future reference in case of differences.

    Another dangerous thing now surfacing is the likely split of interest internally in the SPLM. Dr. Machar’s committee should not only concentrate on the external NCP, but internal unionists like Yasser Arman who come up with different statements. It looks like we have entered a critical stage where both unionists and separatists within the SPLM show their true colours. This is dangerous because it will sabotage the very supposedly unified effort of the SPLM to face the NCP.

    I pray that others like Malik Agar will not pop up with yet another interpretation of the self-determination with its alien wording "inter alia" to mean any other third option in the referendum.

    If Khartoum residents who are "the people of Southern Sudan" are compromised to vote, let the mechanisms be put in place to ensure that there will be no rigging. Good enough that NCP said the population of southerners in the whole of northern Sudan is only half million (500,000). Out of the total number may be Khartoum would have only 300,000 of them. This is not a big threat to the 8 million southerners of which more than 90% have already voiced their intent to vote for separation. But who knows, Khartoum may surprise us in 2011 that the population of Southerners in Khartoum has reached 4 million.

    All in all, let NCP not forget that failure to come up with a fairer referendum law, the South will be forced to declare independence unilaterally by January 2011. And in this case the SPLM should not compromise more on this. They must stick to the demand of 51% simple majority vote to declare the South as independent. My immediate concern is the internal split between unionists and separatists in the team negotiating for the referendum.

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  • 18 September 2009 09:48, by Mzee

    there is no doubt NCP is still playing it deceptive tactic to overshadow the SPLM right of self-determination in the up coming referendum. they just give softheart on the minors issues and leave behind all central issues which favour the referendum.

    it matter less who will vote and who not vote but what modalities and strategies to be use to vote, i didn’t heard about it and that is what jellabas are hoping to rig votes.

    However, Mr machar and his offical need to be firm not to be alternated by those hypocrites.they remain with no options but to play zigzag movements.

    NO way we are for seperation not unity

    SPLM/A Oyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    Southern Sudan Oyeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

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    • 18 September 2009 10:34, by kuminyandi

      Dear Southerners,

      The committee that was form to negotiate this referendum is very week. I knew from beginning that this committee is lacking expereince and necessary skills for negotiation. Non of these people of the so called REFERENDUM COMMITTEE negotiated any big accord before, so it is obvious that Khartoum governemnt is going to win this battle. SPLA/SPLM should find strong individuals today, who can replace and negotiate the referendum successfully with NCP. If these same people are not replaced, I’m not going to be suprised at all, but do not take my words til you see the 51% majority count is out of picture completely!

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      • 18 September 2009 16:43, by Gatwech

        Kuminyandi,

        You are right that the committee is weak. But I see the source of their weakness differently. Not because they have never negotiated any big issue before, actually most of them participated in the CPA negotiations. The problem or source of their weakness is their split between separatists and unionists, period.

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        • 19 September 2009 09:41, by kuminyandi

          Dear Gatwech,

          Thanks for your elaborative response. I agree with your good points about the split within the committee. I never thought about that "split" at all. However, I think the difference of opinions among our leaders regarding this crucial and urgent matter will cost us another war in future. I urge DR Riek and his team to be focus and win something for us in the next round of negotiation.

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    • 18 September 2009 10:36, by Sudan virus

      The countries from which UN and IOM members who will monitor the 2011 referendum must be specified and i particularly suggest
      Uganda,Botswana and Ghana.

      And also the counting must include Southern witness from the grass root .

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    • 18 September 2009 10:37, by Ajuscommando

      I’m very sure and confident for the really Southerners living in North Sectors will vote for separation unless few individuals influence by Khartoum regime through money and food. I know all Southerners are tied with Khartoum manners toward the South independent since 1995 until present day as the use NISS to kill innocent civilians at night and kill others through road accident. I still encourage SPLM delegation to continue pushing terrorists of NCP to accept the GOSS demands and if not better to declare separation since you can not keep hyena together with your domestic animals in one room.

      Ajus

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  • 18 September 2009 10:29, by Angelo Achuil

    "Southerners in North (Khartoum) allowed to vote!" I am very, very disappointed with SPLM for allowing this. first all, Southern Sudan do not have the capacity and intelligence, gadgets to effectively conduct and monitor all the votes within the South, let alone monitoring all Khartoum manipulative activities. SPLM should NOT then be suprised later if the referendum votes shows that those in Khartoum are 50% or more than those in the South - therefore perveting Southerners’ interests. Khartoum won’t care about being transparent or honest about who is a "real southerner." Anybody in Khartoum can claim to be a Southerner and who control that? I feel so bad that just wherever there is the key problem in CPA, SPLM compromises!
    If we are deadlocked, we are deadlocked! It is more dangerous to fail in votes later than declaring UDI. SPLM, play your cards well or you will lose many of your allies at the end when you try to deny repute the votes outcome.

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    • 18 September 2009 10:41, by Hakuna Matata

      The issue of south sudanese in the north is not a big deal, the census results give their numbers at half a million, so if more than half a million south sudanese people in north vote in referendum, we automatically know that the census results were rigged or else aliens voted for referendum...each of which lead us to unilateral declaration of south sudan as a country.

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      • 18 September 2009 18:30, by H5N1

        you are absolutely right. but what if NCP will claim in 2011 that 3 million southern Sudanese moved north in the period between 2009-2011 and that they all voted for unity?
        i mean anything can happen.i’m trying to think that we have no expertees to argue on issues that are really crucial to us, the south sudanese. i think our politicians are just there to fill their tummies, they dont care about the consequences of their decisions. because how can you through things cheaply like that when you know that they matter most to the people.

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  • 18 September 2009 10:38, by Nelson Turdit

    the hope for referendum is buried by the SPLM delegation team who allowed Southerners base in Khartoum to caste their vote in the referendum is a way that NCP will be rigging results and win the referendum. this work of SPLM without consultation from other groups concern to encourage them how to avoid any danger ahead of referendum will bring consequences.

    sorry to our SPLM leaders!!! you want to lead Southerners down on such technical issues.
    SPLM must revise that decison properly

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    • 18 September 2009 11:00, by Ajuscommando

      Dear Southerners,

      I don’t see any reason for blaming SPLM delegation since ¾ plus half of ¼ populations are present in the South. If population present in the South Sudan strengths themselves for separation than South has already win the game so let united first to vote for separation than few Southerners who are present in the North whereby majority of them will vote for new Sudan as you witness in website now. I’m very sure of Southerners living the world to vote for separation a part of collaborators like Lam Akol his with teams under influence of money and I hope nothing will fear us for ¼ will vote for unity and ¾ vote for separation.

      Ajus

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    • 18 September 2009 11:05, by john matim arec

      Self determination is that we stand for, there will be the polling station where our vote shall be montitor. Majority of people now are interesting south sudan should be separated from North.

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  • 18 September 2009 11:08, by jalabi

    What a crazy people!! how comes you deny Junobeen (southerns) who live at every corner in the the north (east, middle, north and west) from exercising their rights and not allowing them to vote in such crucial referendum?????!!!!
    They are not northerns and as soon as the south separate north will deport all of them to south immediately.

    I never agreed with Mr. Yasir Arman in my entire life, but now I agreed with him, all southerns in north should vote.

    It’s not a seceret, I’m telling you now, all the southerns in the north will vote in this referendum and we will bribe them to vote for unity, we prepared huge money to bribe them, this money is the south oil money that we steal from south everyday, we fool SPLM because it’s disabled movement, we won’t pay any thing from our pockets to bribe them, we will bribe them by the south oil money and never feel surprise when the outcomes result favor the unity in 2011!!

    Jalabi (Abo Jalabia)

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    • 18 September 2009 11:23, by Biliu

      Yeah you are the only honest Jalaba I ever heard from, that’s your true color stealing and bribing, I insure you this time it’s your last!

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      • 18 September 2009 11:47, by Mel mosa

        The SPLM made good decision that only resident to the South should vote for independent. Why they change this good idea? what make them fear of NCP?

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        • 18 September 2009 12:04, by Dengtaath

          Hi Melmosa!
          That question is valid, if we can get answer to it, we would be able to retreat our concerns AND FEELINGS but since no body will do it, that is the problem.
          SPLM must rethink about their acceptance of Southerners residing in the North to take part in the referendum vote.
          I tell you, we are in A situation now if the government of South Sudan must NOT take care about the behviour of NCP.

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        • 18 September 2009 12:10, by kuminyandi

          Dear Mel Mosa,

          SPLM did not change the idea, but they don’t know how to negotiate in this kind of situations. In others words, they don’t possess the necessary skills to negotiate successfully with NCP.

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    • 19 September 2009 01:01, by Jay

      Jalabi, this is what I know will happen to those in Khartoum, you’ll buy their votes to vote for you in the wish for united Sudan.

      When the South succeeds for its autonomy, you’ll kick them out of Khartoum immediately, because you’re not going to benefit from them after all.

      Southerners in the north are enjoying good lifestyles in expense of which Sudan will be united, but when that dream is broken, they will be seen as nobodies.

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  • 18 September 2009 12:32, by P Thon Aleu

    I don’t see any different in allowing Southerners in Khartoum to vote and denying those outside the capital! This is the same like allowing all southerners there to do so. The SPLM should not keep southerners mind in darkness when the NCP is already ’walking on them.’

    How can you differential a Khartoum resident with other northerners? All junubii there will certainly participate in the referendum if this is how the SPLM is benting.

    Philip.

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    • 19 September 2009 21:27, by Aduol Liet

      Thon Aleu.

      Southerners Sudanese at Khartoum are so judas people if not why the Peace Agreement was signed four years ago, and they are still looking to get drty money under massive killer of Omar Hassan al Bashir. Supposedly all Southern Sudanese should and must get out in Northern Sudan after the signing an Implementation Peace Agreement unfortunately, I am not sure if there will be a day later so that, we Southern Sudanese can see our faces each other with those who put hope on Arab help instead, we should have make our effort to struggle for our own in order to be like Northern dominators or even better than them. I had my uncle in Khartoum and after Peace Agreement signed on the above mentions years, I call him to come out from Khartoum however, he said; he is waiting for those who made Booking to be taken in Southern Sudan but I understand fully that, he don’t want to come to Southern Sudan due to his own bad suggestion maybe saying, he will face a certain condition in Southern Sudan and the real question to those people like my uncle at Khatroum and many others Southern Sudanese judas is that, who will built Southern Sudan nation.? If people are afaird to come to their origin land.

      Finally, I would really consider Southern Sudan media including you Mr, Thon Aleu and others to visit Khartoum and try very hard to tell them that, who will built Southern Sudan nation if truly we are nearly to get Independence and how long will you be here in Khartoum.? Tell them also that, if somthings happen then, would they blame themselves or GOSS.? We do know that most Southern Sudanese in Khartoum are more than even traitoous and that is why the Paece Agreement have been signed recently years and they never show up to joins their brothers and sisters in Southern Sudan, no matter how hard those conditions may affect them thus, God said, you will do something hard before it get easy to have it therefore, we must manage our condition in Southern Sudan if we need lasting freedom and perhaps, I will be appreciate you if you could calls all Southern Sudanese media to go to Khartoum telling these Southern Sudanese traitor to come out before the unknown general election of 2010, what I mean was that, do not trust Sudan government forever.

      Aduol Liet.

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  • 18 September 2009 13:03, by Critic_Ngueny

    My appreciation goes to Yasir Arman,Makuei Lueth and Riak Machar and whoever with them over there.A journey of thousand miles start with a step please.You have hit the nail on Bashir’s head and the rests of the Arab’s World.You have taught them a lesson and we are ready to teach them once more and for ever and ever.Money minded will be blaming you for what you are doing now but never ever attempt to listen to their nonsenses.Therefore,being a leader of the people you have to face many criticisms from your subjects and outsiders.Remember my dear citizens of Southern Sudan,it was stated clearly by the late Dr.John Garang de Mabior that, "if you want to be a second class citizens then vote for unity." What does it means to you?

    We must vote for Separation otherwise chance knocks once.

    Critic_Ngueny from Bor town

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    • 18 September 2009 13:57, by Michael Madit Magot

      The decision by the SPLM to allow those residing in khartoum vote during the referendum is a sad lost.
      Majority of those living in khartoum are supporters of New Sudan vision which betray the cause of independent South.

      It is so bad that Dr Riek machar is giving away the Southerners votes.
      He must have not been allowed in the first place to head this complicated negotiation.
      SPLM should have learn from the LRA peace negotiation which failed under his chairmanship.

      Shame the loser Riek machar.

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      • 18 September 2009 15:33, by okucu pa lotinokwan

        If SPLM/A agree that the southerners in the capital Khartoum should vote for the 2011 referendum for the independ of the south the result with be like what has happen during our census result and my word to devil oshey to be careful in talking nonsense his time is counted.
        Let the NCP should not play with right this time after we loose over 2 million during the strungle. Isreal said the death arabs are freinds the living one are enemies May God Bless the referendum for the southerners.
        SPLA/M......Oyee strungle continue.

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        • 18 September 2009 16:58, by Gatwech

          Michael Madit Magot,

          You will be missing the point terribly if you just choose to personally take the fight against Dr. Riek Machar singly. Dr. Machar started the negotiations on self-determination even before the CPA was dreamed of. He knows about this right in and out. The issue you should talk about is the spoilers calling themselves unionists like Yasir Arman who disable the committee that negotiate the referendum. Also I want to remind you that LRA negotiations is not self-determination. They are very different issues involving different personalities and countries.

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      • 18 September 2009 18:45, by H5N1

        this guy looks like he doesn’t understand administrative policies. a vice president only operates under the instructions of the president. they have limited responsibilities. they can only make a final decision in consultation with the president. so if you have anything to blame, just blame the whole SPLM system, no singling out of individuals. because those individuals don’t operate on their own. they are just there to represent, but the final decision on issues is made in consultation with the main organ that include the president.

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    • 18 September 2009 15:10, by Abuk D- Nhial

      I disagree with you Critic Ngueny today,
      Makuei Lueth,Yasir Aman and Riek are today engaging for unity with northern Government !!

      My God why don’t you watch these pretending of flamboyancy in Sudan ?
      You made a mistake when you let Jesus died,for he should have demanded his right for the freedom of his people because Jesus was a fearless being.

      All Southerners in Khartoum or any northern state must not vote because the rates in leopards’ furs are leopards’ ownerships.

      To explain : rates = Southerners in Khartoum.

      Leopards = Arabs.

      Furs = Government of Khartoum.

      I suggest that Only southerners in South Sudan will vote,yet not in Khartoum but Juba otherwise there is no different between the first war and the last war !!!
      No thankz.

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  • 18 September 2009 17:08, by Gatwech

    Southerners,

    Because of that contradicting statement by the unionist Yasser Arman, I could now recalled a statement last week by a senior NCP leader, Almahdi Qotbi who vowed that the NCP would infiltrate SPLM and defeat separatists in the SPLM.

    This is exactly what is taking place. Those of Yassir Arman plus his colleagues in Juba who make daily phone calls to Khartoum promising to get rid of separatists in the SPLM are the cause of stumbling blocks in discussions of the referendum law. A split has already happened within the SPLM between unionists and separatists.

    I would suggest to the SPLM leaders who are separatists and majority within the party, and who are also backed by over 90% of Southerners to defeat these minority so-called unionists. The majority SPLM separatist leaders should extend their quest for a consensus with the other political parties in the South to forge a unified front against the NCP’s sponsored unionists.

    Let this minority unionists defect and form their own party if they wish. It should be shown to them that they are just wasting their time with the NCP’s policy to divide the South.

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    • 18 September 2009 19:59, by Sudani Logik

      Why do you staunch separatists insult other southern Sudanese who favor unity! by calling them traitors and in receipt of bribes because they may exercise their right of advocating unity.

      If you people truly believe in freedom? you should stop accusing others of betrayal when it comes to this issue of self determination. Personally I would be ok with both outcomes provided it is the will of the majority and not an imposition by the likes of the narrow minded individuals who comment on this issue day in day out.

      Please remember that the CPA provided southerners with options not directions as to how to vote come referendum, some of you guys need to stop your bulling tactics as if southerners who favor independence have suffered more than those who favor unity.

      *All southerners should be able to vote where ever they reside in Sudan

      *A simple majority mechanism should be applied however if the results are 51/49% either way then I would be concerned that almost have the voting populace would be disregarded and that is dangerous for both an independent south and a united Sudan

      *Unity of southerners depends on acceptance of differing views regardless of how much that might affect aspirations of separatists or unionists

      *I don’t think the south should bare any of the debt burden created by the successive & oppressive Khartoum regimes if it were to separate

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      • 19 September 2009 03:50, by Dinka Boy

        Dear Sudani, you are Arab completely.
        Your name implied that u are that way.
        Thanks

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        • 19 September 2009 17:19, by Gatwech

          Sudani,

          No body is against South Sudanese unionists as such. What the separatists are saying is let the referendum law be fair. 51% for yes or no vote, period. Since it is complicated to define who is a Southerner in the North, let the voting be confined to South and Khartoum. But any tactics by the unionist to block formulation of a fair referendum law amounts to the violation of the CPA that would have allowed for free choices between unity and separation. I hope you got me now?

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          • 19 September 2009 18:58, by Sudani Logik

            Gatwech

            I appreciate your line of debate!!

            Why would it be difficult to identify southerners in all parts of Sudan? If you mean the NCP may foul play! then we are all aware of this possibility in many areas not just in the voting process, so lets not ignore southerners in difficult areas just because of fears of what the NCP might do! This referendum is important to all Southerners not just separatists my friend. Please note there are many separatists living all over Sudan and their votes would be useful to your plight.

            Please stop looking at unionists as enemies that need to be neutralized, they’re your brothers who have the absolute freedom to cast their vote as they see fit, even if its for unity! IT IS THEIR RIGHT... What you should be doing is: is trying to make them see sense in your argument, that separation is best. All this talk of unionists forming a block blah blah... is not helpful nor realistic as you are very aware of the CPA provisions regarding unity and the SPLM’s official stance towards unity.

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        • 19 September 2009 18:41, by Sudani Logik

          Dinka Boy

          My name implies that am an Arab????? What drugs are you on!!! Stop your stupidity and your objective-less arguments and comments. You are actually a disgrace to the proud Dinka community.

          Once you stop being a boy and grow to be a man, I may then entertain your nonsense as for now, I advise you get an education and stop embarrassing the Dinka community!

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  • 19 September 2009 03:48, by Dinka Boy

    Allowing South Sudanese residing in khartoum to vote become a huge problem in the South. I could not understand why GOSS allowed that.
    We all know that they will vote for unity/ Bashier because they want to protect their residency.
    The government of Southern Sudan need to examine that particular case of allowing them because khartoumers are already assimilated by Arabs.
    See the guy with post sign, he agree for unity and that is their believe in the North.
    Stopp them from votting because they are Arab trailors.

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    • 19 September 2009 10:24, by longo pi

      DEAR ALL.

      STUPID DINKAS

      DR. LAM AKOL AJAWIN .IS THE FOUNDER OF NEW SUDAN.

      DR. AJAWIN WILL WIN THE ELECTION AND FORM THE GOV. OF GOSS.

      DINKAS REFUSED TO BEHAVE WELL. THE WAVE OF "CHANGE" WILL CHANGE THEM WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT.

      DR. LAM AKOL AJAWIN IS THE NEW SUDAN VISION FOUNDER.

      GARBAGE WITH THEIR TRIBAL SYSTEM.

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      • 19 September 2009 14:30, by Dinka Aliap Chawul

        @Longi

        Why are U shouting aggressively? Are u a drunkard? so why i ask u those questions,neither Dinkas nor they Southerners has said or reject DR Lam & his SPLM-DC party`s participation in the Sudan`s general election.

        Or is that is a kind of how DC canvass?

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    • 19 September 2009 19:02, by Sudani Logik

      Language of a dictator and the advocation of an authoritarian system!

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      • 20 September 2009 01:31, by black man world

        Sudani logik i apprecaite your comments brother.

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