SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill

By Ngor Arol Garang

September 7, 2009 (KHARTOUM) — Sudan people’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) expressed today willingness to discuss the pending issues on the implementation of 2005 peace agreement but warned it would not make any concession on referendum bill.


Pagan Amum (Getty)

Four years after the signing of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA) in January 2009, the two peace partners continue to negotiate its implementation. The most important in the outstanding issues remain referendum and national security bills. But also they diverge on the outcome of the fifth national census conducted earlier this year.

SPLM Secretary General, pagan Amum on Monday said his party is committed to resolving any pending issue in the CPA implementation before 2010 elections if its peace partner National congress Party (NCP) changes their tune.

"We have never created any stumbling block for implementation of any article in the peace accord, instead we are known for concession when we realized discussions on any controversial issue takes long to conclude," he said.

Speaking to Sudan Tribune by phone from Juba, Amum said the NCP is prolonging discussion on referendum bill hoping "we will again concede anything this time like in the past."

He further asserted that this time the SPLM would not concede on the referendum bill. "No; Referendum cannot be played with, because referendum accommodates hopes of the southern Sudanese."

Ongoing discussions between the two partners are deadlocked over the participation of the southerners in northern Sudan and the needed percentage for separation.

The SPLM also rejects the outcome of the national census alleging that results were "rigged" understating the population of the South and overstating that of Darfur. Instead it wants the geographical constituencies to be based on the 1956 census percentages.

But the NCP stuck to its insistence that the census results are to be used to determine the geographical constituencies for the purposes of the upcoming 2010 elections.

Asked about SPLM’s position on referendum law and census, Pagan said, SPLM maintains the same position on census and referendum. "Our position is that census result should not be used for power sharing in the central government as it has not been properly conducted."

"Results obtained do not even represents figures of the southern Sudanese in the provincial capitals of Malakal, Wau and Juba let those in rural areas," he added.

He further said that some of there are some areas in the country where census takers failed to conduct the counting due to insecurity, labor, and transport amongst others. He argued that they want the NCP to consider "these genuine complaints".

He continued to point out that that there are regions where the population counting had not been properly operated and local authorities reject its results.

"Some of the states which used to lead in the previous census result like the state of Northern Bahr el Ghazal are currently protesting the result." Pagan said.

"The same to referendum, everything is always simple majority. I do not understand where NCP get this suggestion of 75% vote if they are indeed committed to implementing the agreement in good faith," he wondered.

However, he said he hopes for the good out come from the talks that have just resumed today in Khartoum between SPLM and NCP high executive political committees headed by Sudan’s Second Vice-President Mr. Ali Osman Taha and GOSS’ Vice-President Dr. Riek Machar.

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48 Forum messages

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 06:46, by oshay

If the South can vote for independence, all non dinka should also be able to vote for independence from Dinka control.

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 07:09, by Dinka Boy

Dear Oshay, Talking too much about Dinka will make you crazy. Vote my friend against Dinka control, why waste time.
- SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 07:52, by liil
  
  Dingka Boy:
  
  Infact,you are the real Dingka boy and namely why you stand firm in support to that corrutpted and controled dingka Government in Juba.There is nothing call separation if you Dingka don’t change your mind from this concept of rule and mergenalization of other areas in the South before general election and referendum in the country.
  
  Of course,some of us from other communities in the south who believed to be neglected and oppressed by Dingka from now and in the future are ready to determine our and their right through unity of the country unless Dingka change their tenet of ignorance,which could contribute to disunity of the people of southern Sudan.You are an obsticale of peace,harmony and separation of southern Sudan.
  
  Oshay has right to comment on unity instead of separation as Dingka deserved. We don’t want Southern Sudan to be turn as tribal field of onslaught,a kind of Somalia’s sort of.
SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 08:11, by crackwood

Man do not know where are you from? If you from north part be fair? get your ass out from discussion with NCP or NIF? Don’t enter pair in any part of Sudan because your not a Sudanese, If you from Upper Nile or Equatoria you known or know what Arab did to our people since 1955 until 2005? Why our civilian people were been killing by Arab? Arab never been differentiating between Dinka or not? master oshay I remind you about 200 civilian killed mas cared by Arab in Jabalin? where are you that time? those were not Dinka but they were people of South Sudan you still supporting Arab? I think that time you were adult enough not Child? That was 1992. Can reminder your lord (Lam) about those crisis who committed Arab who supported Lam Akol today one day they turn against you.
- SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 10:54, by liil
  
  Bior and Crackwood:
  
  To comfirm my identification iam fully the real and true south Sudan son who stand to the last point for the right of my people without distiction and i oppose to those who engaged more actively on tribal lines like you Dingkas.
  
  First of all you were not the ones who brought peace to Sudan nor you defended it from the enemies since you were known to be more cowardic tribe which never comes face to face and day to day light confrontattion with others. Then how did you claim to liberate us from the north with this cowardness? You will never small perfume of ruling south Sudan forever.
  - SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 11:55, by Aduol Liet
    
    MR, Liil.
    
    You need to see DR, soon otherwise you have nothing in your mind to talk about politics.
    - SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 9 September 2009 10:29, by liil
      
      Mr Aduol Liet:
      
      You can not be politician when you are using an agressive, offensive and idoitic language in addressing puplic problems and solutions.It is not fair to falsely accuse or betray your leaders to the enemies like what you guys engage against president bashir’s indictment.
SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 08:55, by monychol makuei

Oshay you don’t need to include those who are following their right to end from old sudan’s slavery and dictatorship.you seem to be one who came in earlier,when people were in the bush,because of fake arab’s politics and bloody money that arab provided to you and begun your traitor against your own people. your time will come with tribal party leader lam akol,that day there will be a very!very! bad weep,continue to do this to your own people,but when it come the final it will be very ugly dream. khartoum will not exist forever, I think traitors will run out from there one of those ahead. mr secretary general, continue to maintain your politics we will stand with you and defeat this kind of stupid rulling. donot listen to the dead brain evil as laM AKOL AND Riek Gai in khartoum. these the bloody evil against their own people.
SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 08:56, by crackwood

If you from South? You will Know who made South save today chase out all enemies of people of South? Since 1956 until 2005 do you hear about power charring or resources in Sudan before? who made possible SPLA. and gave you a right to talk freely? with out arrested your ass? where are you when Arab control every thing all these years? make your self blind and deft. Why you didn’t all those years?
SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 09:23, by BUSTA 2

Thank you Brother Oshay I agreed with you!!!!!!!!!!

Yes let us vote for seperation then from there we will vote for Non-Dinkas seperation as simply as that.

This is due to the fact, where there are many Dinkas there is insecurity why?????????

Brother in Christ,

Busta 2
- SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 12:56, by Garang Ayiik
  
  My friend you and mr Oshay forgate about your separation from Stronge Dinka, consider your battlion during the war if you din’t have any group of your soldiers than you have no land, for your blood are not in that ground of southern Sudan, in everywhere of Sudan in any place that the Dinka Bloodshed make sure that is the Dinka Land, officially,physically mantaly .and socially. ask more information from your brothers who have been oppressed in Juba during the civil war, men were been fuck togther with their own women by arabs.
  
  Dhongbang
SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 12:45, by Joseph Dut Gak

That is our alright position and those who re talks about Dinka re not Sudanese nor Southerners we re monitoring closely and time will tell freedom the most abundant things and costly it take life and those had died re still in our hearts .

we re not going any where in Sudan.
SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 13:30, by barnaba chol

Say yes to Secretary General of SPLM please don’t give up we are behind your move.Despite the diffculties you will get in the process,but it is not that much hard like 21 years fighting with the national government.

by barnba chol
SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 13:36, by barnaba chol

Dear, osha you are a deft person that can support unknownly with no vision and concern of the world fair of his or her country. also are u inside the door that you can’t see and smell the bom tociles which enrupt in conrded. your leaving in the world is unless to your family.
SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 9 September 2009 01:39, by Peter Aarai

Stop crying for Dinkas and cry for your own freedom Oshay, Dinkas got nothing to do with what Pagan Saying.Pagan is talking about referendum bill not Dinkas.
SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 12 September 2009 11:13, by martin

Mrs. Bashir(Oshayeen) Are you fed up from al bashir and is looking for a southerner????????????????

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 06:53, by Dinka Boy

Secretary General Pagan Amum, Don,t give up your work, you deserved SPLA/M rank who really works for the benefits of Southern Sudan. NCP need to agree with the interest( things) that SPLA/M satisfy. They have to accept the Simply majority rule(51%) as the percentage of separation of South, Second, people in residing in the South should only vote for that favor so that its avoid confusion of Arab slaves residing in Khartoum, The recent Census results are not the base of election because the South is not count 100%. Mr Criminal Bashier, this is not Joseph Lago moment(1972 agreement) period. If NCP is not making agreement with SPLA/M to have concrete implementation base on truth,then Southern Sudan is ready for Separation. Separation is the Must.

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 06:54, by mayor

Black dog Oshay never sleep at all

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 06:55, by murlescrewed

Keep dreaming you anti-Dinka idiot. Without Dinka, South would be under the slavery from treacherous jallabah. Despite the sacrifice, we were happy to assume that responsibility. Other tribes played an important role in liberation struggle and are the first to vote for separation. For all your talks about trying to make Dinka look bad, just look at your image and know who is responsible for the problems in Sudan today.

If you jallabah had any decency, you would have urged your criminal leader to step down and go to The Hague to answer his charges. Instead, his fat ass is stuck in a no-win scenario. The international justice can wait as long as it takes.

But before he goes down, he wants to gain legitimacy by seeking the backing of the SPLM in return for referendum? He is even more stupider than he looks. South will remain united and vote with one voice with or without your shallow attempt to portray South through tribal lens. It does not work any more.

One more thing, South has the capacity to destabilize north. All we can do is invite Darfurians to use our land as a launching pad. There is plenty of weapons and support to create chaos for north. You will soon realize this.

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 07:11, by oshay

First of all you Dinka are land grabbers, you massacred all non dinka during the 1990s when Riech Machar and Lam Akol realised that Garang was a dinka tyrant. However you were taught a lesson by general paulino Matip when he was whipping SPLA thugs all over the South. Secondly incase you forgot 50% of the Sudanese national army is made up of Darfurians and they fought with the Northerners against the savage SPLA for 20 years so keep dreaming that they’ll ever side with you.
- SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 07:55, by Jeremiah Mach
  
  yeah Darfuris did not sided with SPLA/M during the liberation struggle, but are they still allying themselves with the Sudan government or did they shift their allegience to the Government of South Sudan?
- SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 08:38, by crackwood
  
  Master oshay you are maybe a part of the omar majadin 1993. that why you talked about Dinka at that way? Because: you got injured in one of the battle with heroes of SPLA. Know I find out that you are disable that why you hit Dinka? Or you POW Of SPLA Heroes? That why you hit Dinka? Dinka are peaceful people and powerful people? when come to confront hem they will show you stars in a day light.
  - SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 10:25, by James
    
    nobody saw those stares in a day light during those ugly days. for you Oshay, a woman cannot tell a man what to do. southern sudan will be inevitably a independent state and it is none of your business to tell us what we will do after separation. don’t worry about teethless lions,we know their formula to deal with them. please Oshay, distance yourself from our affairs. you enslaved yourself and don’t blame those who say NO to slavery.
SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 07:37, by youngdinka

Thank Murlescrewed. you are a man with a good heart and know what are Dinka impacts in the South or entire Sudan. As you mentioned what you wrote, You are right. You the champion

Dinka don’t slaveryness and traitors like Lam and Riek and maybe many other undercovers.

Thanks alot.
- SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 07:45, by Dinka Boy
  
  Thanks YOUNGDINKA, those who that they are brave are countless. Being BRAVE is one of the requirements or attitudes that we Dinka need in our live so that we will be term as men. I agree we don,t like Slavery and that is why all the Batallions are all 90% DINKA heroes.

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 07:11, by Kur

Yes, it is the red line. There is no way any of ua would expect those who are negotiating on our behalf to make any compromise when it comes to the referendum law.

Kur

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 09:50, by Kim Deng

Folks,

Don’t be confused about those arabized Nubians like Mr. Oshy and likes who want to see South divided in tribal lines. They use South Sudanese names just to mislead some idiots guys within the South just to fulfil their own interests.

If there are some issues between South Sudanese, that is non of your business ya Mr. Oshy. But people of South Sudan will deal with their problems while mind your own business in your damn desert.
- SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 10:37, by Ajuscommando
  
  I know very well SPLM can not Stumbling block the referendum bill/law to be discussing peaceful as they are really situation of Sudan to be calm not to remain in present hostility. Pagan Amum always telling the facts to NCP for the good willingness of peace in the country but enemies of CPA do reject it. The referendum bill should not be taken like Dafur conflict as it will create big war between South and North if NCP will not respect all pending issues needed by SPLM. SPLM is not in position to bring war if force to it than the must to take serious action against enemy. I agree with pagan Amum and SSLA on the decision they have made.
  
  Ajus
SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 10:19, by pol d

For damn people who always talking,talking about DINKA,DINKA don’t want to live you in the old slaver.DINKA don’t care the can leave without separation,or unity but don’t want to leave their brothers and sisters in mess of Arab.Dinka is not currupted,or SPLM/A. Hassan Abdallah al-Turabi wife’s said befor,Bashir part took the wealth of country to build high rise building in Arab and Asian countries,stupid people never talk,about it.

Dinka will lead until Arab say kudual dun.

long live for the SPLM/A
- SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 10:35, by James
  
  WOW!!! look at Dinka Bor now talking!!!! the guy must have drunk alot of milk in the morning.
  - SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 10:42, by Ajuscommando
    
    Who is better between the person who drink milk in the morning and wild dog who always drunk with alcohol throughout the day?
    
    Ajus
    - SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 14:32, by James
      
      It is you now my old comrade to answer your own elementary question. i don,t know who you are refering to as WILD DOG. in bor town, there is no different between milk and alcohol. drinking and beging are the daily activities overthere. Maybe you are refering to those lazy borians (aliap in particular) who spend the whole day beging, drinking whatever, and when they are full, they simply sit under trees in bor town counting tok kurow kudiak, tok kurow kudiak tok, kurow kudiak.........without even reachng kunguan. But don,t call them dogs, they are human beings. tell them to work for themselves instead of keeping yourself busy stealing southern sudanese resources to spoonfeed them. you are now getting old and you will not be strong enough to steal for them.
    - SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 14:49, by Peter Nhiany
      
      Hahahahah. Mr. Ajus, you have said what really made me laugh. I do not even have anything to say.
      
      Thank you.
      
      Peter Nhiany.
  - SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 9 September 2009 03:59, by Dinka Boy
    
    Dear James, Your are stupid, Dinkas are not to be mention by subtribes. Stop! don,t you think that everybody knows difference dialect in the South. For example, lielmuor.

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 11:59, by Africano

This Dinka-dog boy called Pagan Amum is talking nonsense. He is always drunk and does not know what he says. He is just like his father who was a CID for the Arabs. He is a CID for the Dinka. He was happy when Dinka removed Oyay Deng Ajak from the military. How can he talk about referendum before elections? He should be concern whether his Dinka-led SPLM will win elections. He lost his money for his failure attempts to spoil SPLM-DC convention. What will his boss Salvatore Kiir tell him now? I do not know whether the Dinka know that he is dull person. Maybe that is why they are using him.

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 20:47, by Whortti Bor Manza

I wonder when did Pagan came to comprehend referundum. This man called Pagan Amun, the SG of the SPLM is the greatest orrator who keeps talking beyond what he could actually do. Old English saying ( A man of words, not of deeds is like a garden full of weeds). Pagan is just echoeing the ambivalent position of his nasty party the SPLM. The SPLM, too confused. One time, united Sudan, New Sudan, Marginalised people. Which and which? Pagan and his SPLM are nearly bankrupt and mad with the 60 million dollars they stole after the death of Garang. Pagan is just a cabal for his Dinka Masters. The Dinkas are not foolish to call for the referundum as they know for sure an independent Southern Sudan would mean their quick and permanent end. This has been repeated several times by prominent Jelaba Dinkas like Prof. Moses machar, Bona Malual, George Kongor and many others. Let us be loggical and refrain from insults like hooligans.

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 13:32, by Majak Garang

"No; Referendum cannot be played with, because referendum accommodates hopes of the southern Sudanese."

I really agreed with SG on referendum. Southerners are watching you Mr. SG Pagan. If Southerners are like Mr. Pagan. we would have achieved what we want.

Please do your best and May GOD bless you.

Bye

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 14:10, by Lokorai

Dear Mr. Secretary General,

You are with the people of the Southern Sudan and we want to see you stand firm and everyone is behind you. You are showing a color we were afraid then when you sided withe the enemies of our people- North

Kindly give no concession, and if it means declaring an independence unilaterally we will do it. No Referendum no talk/peace/agreement!

Lokorai
SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 14:43, by korenilo A.

we are very sure to win the CPA. and have the new Sudan,via separation.new Sudan is not fore they Dinka but fore the southern race.it will take time fore you to know more about the new Sudan, crazy son of dog?????????

oshay no peace without war ,

thanks

,of they ,new Sudan
- SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 15:54, by Monjur
  
  Well, I must say that its a struggle of all South Sudanese that brought peace not only the so-called Jenge (Dingga). As much as the dinka want to reconsile with other tribes in the south, there are still open scars that need to be gradually healed. One thing the dinkas dont seem to understand is that they are just one tribe and if they think they can full the remaining 99% of the remaining tribes, then they are greatly deceiving themselves.
  
  You DINKA must change your behaviour or risk being isolated not only in south sudan, but in east africa and the whole world. Recently I was on a mission to one of the east african cities and guest what, " a drunk guy came to a restaurant and poured out a customer’s drink simply because he was not served quickly" later we were told that he is a sudanese DINKA. I was totally disgusted to be associated with such barbaric uncultured goons.
  
  But, you DINKAS are still have a chance to repent and reconcile with other southern tribes and the neighbouring countries or you will regret your behaviour. Thanks to the marks on your faces, now the foreiners can identify you easily from the rest of the kind & peaceful southerners.
  
  The writer is a civil servant.
  - SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 17:59, by Ajuscommando
    
    If you are not a drunken master like those guys you founded in drinking place than what took there? Dinkas are very good in milk drinking than alcohol so I believe you mean certain community but you want to change position due to your internal conflicts with Dinkas.
    
    Ajus
    - SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 8 September 2009 20:23, by Afredo christiani
      
      Dear readers
      
      This is what we expected from pagan amum to say. Go a head and we are after you. For BLACK ARABS Dinka is a tribe not a government of south Sudan. Oshay better to support GOSS now, so that you get your right instead of supporting ARABS they will make you house wife went southerners separated from the north. The writer is a true liberator. SON of GOD
  - SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 9 September 2009 01:37, by black man world
    
    long at them haters, do you guys know that DINKA is hate by people who they didnt even shake hands or even know name with? Equatorian from is went DINKA came in 1990 to fought the war, that how they get to know them but nothing in connection, Nuer is brother DINKA no matter what the peace will be done after RAIK and them are gone new generation. shulluk is a great NILOTIC along with NUER and DINKA plus other NILOTIC like ANYUAK for SULLUK is politicaly motivated by LAM and other politican, But if every citizen is eduacate they will know the truth DINKA as a tribe had done nothing wrong to any of this tribe crying their hatred on them, just because they show off out of no were and fight the main WAR between ARABS that the only thing that made connection with equatorian who done have connection with them DINKAS nuer knows it better that DINKA is their person if something came out of no were between NYAM-NYAM and them who will support DINKA, dont forget we share the NAMES linguistically and we are phyically the same so you cant tell the different between nuer and DINKA and other great NILOTICS peace to all of my family from nilotic we can be divided by none nile family.

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 9 September 2009 04:11, by James Okuk Solomon

Yes Your Excellency Mr. Pagan Amum Okiech, keep up the burning torsh on referendum law. Don’t give it up at all. It is the major corner stone in the CPA together with the SPLA as an independent standing army facing the SAF untill the result of the plebiscite for self-dtermination by the people of Southern Sudan in 2011. This is where we have a common agreement without a comnpromise.

If the NCP and all Northern political forces unite against the refererndum excercise, we will also unite as Southern forces for Referendum realization with a simple majority as practiced worldwide. 75% is just nonesence even if we are sure 90% of Southerners will wisely vote for independece and freedom from the Islamic oppressive North. Don’t allow Sadig El Mahadi to lure you in Juba. Be intelliegent and careful of any Jellaba (including Mr. Yasser Arman and Dr. Monsour Khalid) when it comes to the interest of Southern Sudan. This is our life and this is our destiny; there should never be a joke about it.

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 9 September 2009 19:00, by James John

I think u can’t mention referndum when the government is very weak. I see nothin been done since singing of Comprehensive peace Agreement. We need some changes in Southern Sudan government, I see alot of dinka people in the position of government and some of them they don’t know nothing.

I think, if dinkas want to see Southern Sudan to be a good place they need to fried some of there people from government position be’s most of the people in the Southern Sudan are not happy for these dinka. If u don’t know, one plus one is two then ur not a leader of people why not put someone that can lead people.We have some smart people in Southern Sudan why not give them the changes to help the poor to get into their feet.

If this dinka government want people to vote for them, one thing they should do is the road transport be’s that is the main sources for Southerner and they have to give respect for other cultures around the country, if not I think people are waisting their time.

this is ur Boy from another Mother.

SPLM Secretary General warns no concession on referendum bill 9 September 2009 19:21, by James John

There is something happening in this planet, my dear Southerners. What about we leave dinkas to vote themself and we wait and see how they will win the election or referendum they called.

These "Dinka" think they know everything than other cultures in Southern Sudan but they don’t know "they’re in the last position all around the world. If ur cattle keeper, ur job is to keep the cattle somewhere in the bush but not people already know something ahead of you.