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Ngundeng’s Prophecies (Part III)

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By Gatkuoth Deng

September 2, 2009 — Ngundeng prophesied a prosperous South Sudan nation after ending its suffering and achieving its independence. He prophesied agriculture as the back bone of economy in the region. Ngundeng predicted that the South would produce more than enough food for its people. He also prophesied that foreigners, including white people would also benefit from the resources produced in the region when he said in his songs, “Koryom Diet chame gol ke duoth; be cham ka jaye, chame Nyajak; …gole ci beele tang tol.” Its translation says, “Koryom Diet (foreigners or white people) will eat in the land with smiles; they will eat and deny it; eat in it Nyajaak (light colored); my land’s agricultural produce have broken the straws or sticks.”

Elders said Koryom Diet is a nickname given to foreigners by Ngudeng and Nyajaak in particular, which translates ‘light colored,’ was a nickname he gave to white people. Elders think that Ngundeng welcomed foreigners to also benefit from the riches in the land when he also told them “eat in the land” despite their denial. Ngundeng predicted a huge agricultural productivity as the back bone of South Sudan’s economy. In Nuer whenever there is a huge season’s agricultural yield they say “ci beel tang tol,” meaning “the yield has broken the straws.” This means the yield has produced more than enough grain for consumption during that season. And that was what Ngundeng used to describe the yields for a simple understanding by the people who were around him.

Despite the fact that South Sudan currently completely depends on oil by more than 98% of overall revenues, Ngundeng rarely mentioned oil as the back bone of South Sudan economy or the leading resource. I have not heard in his songs talking specifically about the oil. May be he gave it a nickname which I might have not understood some where in the cassette. Or it might just be among the other natural resources, which he called ‘milk’, that are in South Sudan.

But on agriculture he repeatedly talked about it as the basis of future succeeding economy in South Sudan. May be he concentrated on resources that would feed the nation for thousands of years instead of other resources like oil that may only take 50 or 100 or less years before it finishes.

Elders also told me that this trend to develop and promote an agricultural-based economy is already confirmed by the leadership in South Sudan. Our late hero Dr. John Garang de Mabior before the CPA was signed in January 2005 talked of the need to develop agricultural sector using the oil revenues. He envisioned agriculture as the backbone of South Sudan’s economy and the oil revenues as a means to stimulate and develop the agricultural sector that would take over as the basis of the economy. The current Vice President, Dr. Riek Machar Teny, also in his response to a Western journalist who asked him more than ten years ago on what he was envisioning as the future of South Sudan despite the people dying of hunger, diseases and wars, Dr. Riek was quoted in a book as saying, “I see millions of green shoots growing into tall plants to feed the world; I see what we can be when we are free.”

Unfortunately, before South Sudan would realize its prosperity, Ngundeng predicted scores to be settled first with the North as well as some South Sudan internal affairs. As usual in my Part I and Part II articles on the same topic, I want to concentrate this Part III article on the North-South scores.

Elders said Ngundeng was clear that he could not control or prevent from happening God’s punishment which he had already decided on Sudan. Ngundeng could just prophesy them. He could only suggest things that, if are followed, may please God and would reverse his plans about the nation. And among these were peace and believe in God, self-reliance and self-determination or freedom. His inability to control the fate of South Sudan was revealed in his dream which elders said was overheard by those who slept near him. In his dream he was called by God, “Ngundeng, Ngundeng tit gaat ka e goaa. (Ka cue luoc) Guadin a ko kon thuok kone Marol.” It translates, “Ngundeng, Ngundeng take care of my children well. He replied: “Father, let me first settle the case with Jalaba.”

Knowing that it was impossible to change the ill-fate of Sudan, he continued by prophesying what was shown to him would happen in visions by God. He told people that what he was telling them was the truth. He said God would not lie and the lies of God are only his delay in fulfillment of prophesies. He also warned of unresolved suffering for a very long time and said he would confuse the people and may not know how things were going to take place. In his songs he said “E rol buope ka tare cet ke mi ce ranh; bi thuke diaal ngot ni ke diw.” Translation, “I will turn the nation (land) upside down, facing up and facing down; like if it is not going to happen; all mouths will continue speaking doubts.”

He continued by saying “Laate je cet ce bi ranh; cango we maro thaar bieh ka be we toom; e je kua lat cet ce bi ranh; cango we maro thaar bieh ka mo be we toom.” Translation, “Talk about it as if it will not come to pass; when it explodes under the Bieh (capital or headquarters?) it will have a loud sound; let people talk about it as if it will not come to pass; the day it will explode under the Bieh (pyramid) it will have a huge sound.”

Bieh is the name of Ngundeng’s pyramid which is currently located in Wec Deang, Jonglei state. Some elders think that Ngundeng meant the bombing of his Bieh by the British war planes in 1920s; about 20 years after he had already died. Others say Ngundeng was just referring to a national capital or some kind of a government headquarters as Bieh. Since his Bieh was his capital or headquarters, they think he was simply referring to any capital or headquarters as Bieh. This is also a food for thought like the rest.

He also said in the songs, “Rolun ba nyot k pic ken ruai de kon gueer.” It translates, “I will stir up the nation (land); its case has not yet been settled.” Ngundeng also sounded like a bit annoyed with God’s punishment on his people when he questioned God’s actions in his song which says, “Engu teeri mo la Deng; ka mo ci hooka liadien jiako; ah kuoth cu ha moc dual e ruota.” Translation, “What are you fighting for God?; the death of my cattle (people) has become unbearable; ah, don’t give me fear God; let me endure (persevere) it.” And he also said, “Laathkeeri liepe Marol ni luak e ke kon gaak kene Deng.” Translation, “Soldiers, wait for Jalaba in the land; let him first quarrel with God.”

He also continued, “Kor kel ba teer ca bi gaak ka Kur; Kuoth nhial e toange paduil; ci Deng moac I nguone kotda wa; ci dang jiok da we toom bako bieyni wang luak rol mac…a yiwe Rol bi naak e caa kur ke mi luang.” It translates, “I will fight one war that I will not refuse from God; the God for whom I built the paduil (counties, payams, bumas?); God said give me my shield; my dang (rod) has made a huge sound; we will burn down clothes in luak (stores?); Jalaba I will kill you in countless hundreds.” Elders say ‘Paduili’ are smaller units of Ngundeng’s religious system similar to counties, payams or bumas, etc.

Among his prophesies that predict wars, Ngundeng also said “Ci koak keera da hoong; ci Teny ku gieer kene dayom…e ba ci guori kon nak, be ke nak ni ke nak Diu (Diang?). Translation, “My Keer (cow or land’s) graves are wide open; Teny and disciple will make thundering sounds…I will first kill the military officers; I will kill them like the killing of (Diu or Diang?)”

I am not so sure about the last name to which Ngundeng likened the killings of military officers. And from where are these military officers? Are they in the South or in the North? Elders think that Ngundeng was talking about the Jalaba officers who crushed in a plane accident in Upper Nile about six years ago. Others think these are generally military officers who died in war over the years. Others are not clear which officers Ngundeng talked about.

Readers may notice that some of the predictions have already occurred since the time Ngundeng died while others are yet to occur. It is sometimes very difficult to know which ones are yet to occur and which ones have already come to pass. Also, the songs in the cassette were not sung in sequential order to know which one comes after another as originally sang by Ngundeng. They have been disordered by different singers making it difficult to know which one Ngundeng said would occur after another.

The author lives in USA and can be reached at: gatkuothlam@yahoo.com



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  • 3 September 2009 11:07, by TRUEMAN

    Ngundeng was not a prophet. He was just just an ordinary person suffering from a disease called Schizophrenia.
    This is a brain disease which make people believe that they have special connection with God.
    People suffering from schizophrenia believe that they can receive messages from God via dreams, television internet ,sky and ecetera.

    Ngundeng should have been saved from this disease had the Nuer people took him to the hospital if at all there were hospitals by then.
    If anyone look closely at his prophecies you would conclude that Ngundeng had indeed been suffering from schizophrenia.
    I know for sure because disease had affected many people who are close with me.

    To anyone who believe in Ngundeng misconceived madness call it a trash from today.
    He was not a prophet but rather he was a patient whose our poor state of medication render to suffer.
    Had it been today that Ngundeng was showing these symptoms he would have been saved by the present medical technology.
    Schizophrenia is a very funny disease and it could deceive many people to miscontrue it for a devil.
    In this case Ngundeng was not a devil but rather he was a patient.
    In contrast schizophrenia patients tend to interpret themselves as either Gods or devils.
    This interpretation could be dangerious in undeveloped countries like Africa where gods’ words were executed with violence.
    Some gods in our african countries order people to be sacrificed on their alter.
    Good enough Ngundeng did not do that but his prophesies against the opponent tribes did contribute to insecurity in the southsudan.
    For instant the current indiscriminate killing in Jonglei state could be Ngundeng prophesies.

    For the fact Ngundeng was suffering from schizophrenia not a prophet. He was call him a prophet is misleading himself and the southsudan masses.
    As a result i sympathise with the writer for wasting his time trying to interpret schizophrenia symptoms.

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    • 3 September 2009 12:41, by Bigtribe

      Shame on you mr.Trueman, you are "wrong Man"

      You made wrong perception about Ngundeng, he is real and I do believe it, not me along and not Nuer people but other Southerners including Dinka people, still do believe in him as a holy father and remember some will be baptized using his holy name not white folk holy names. get it real!

      If you think Ngundeng prophecy was “Schizophrenia” according to your statement, think again, you are misleading the public.

      If Ngundeng prophecies are symptom then I recommend all other prophets in the Bible could have been affected by “schizophrenia,” however, there are great differences between sickness and prophecy, get thing right folk, you are also been affected by the same disease and, now a days, you could be easily treated by either going through counseling or get the most accurate medication to come down that ill brain of yours, which making you speaks inhuman and unrealistic facts, that are not relevant to that of human personality.

      TrueMan? no no no, you kidding, did you mean “Wrongman?” what a name! Shames on you, your facts are impractical and are treated nonsense.
      You need to response positively to something you have well researched and you are well a ware of it realities, incase of Ngundeng, you weren’t born by the time and you need to believe in thos facts about him, just like as you believe about Bible prophets.

      What is difference between white folk’s prophets and Black folks prophets?
      Guys, you need even to write your own bible that included our Africa prophets.

      When are you going to let white folk alone? Every century, you still stick like a glue to white folks, you get baptized using their names as a holy names, why not baptized by your own name?

      Africa, you will be free until you prove your self right.

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    • 3 September 2009 12:57, by Ngolele

      trueman, please do not denounce this writer because you seem to be ignorant about prophet and prophecies in Africa,read your Bible or your koroaan or remain in your loop.

      we want to know about more prophet and prophecies in Africa and southern sudan in particular, we want somebody to write about NIKAN of the great Luo-represented by Shilluk tribe in SS,very great job have already been done on the Lopede of the great lakes by the late Indian prof. M.M Ninan in his comparative study of Jews’ Jesus and Kukus’Lopede of Kajokeji in SS.

      These writings are more educative than misleading and they are valuable, if you are mad by nature, please leave the nature to take its course. Because if you are saying Nuer are killing because they are follwing the prohecy of Ngundeng, then from the same perspective they would have dug the SS land up to the borders of uganda in fulfilment of Ngundengs’ prophecy for agricultural prosperity in SS.

      Dont be block minded!

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    • 3 September 2009 22:33, by bigl

      mr right, please take rest! you are simply drunk.
      How do you take God’s words for joke? your being is unfortunate and your mum is a great looser for having such a dumbie! you worth death.

      NOTORIOUS BIG EVER NASTY.

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  • 3 September 2009 17:26, by Santino Nuan

    Mr Trueman, This is not a right comment on right reflection. If you suffer from getting good information about prophesy and prophet, please refer to relevant theologians to guide you along.

    Ngundeng is a Nuer by tribe but his prophesy has nothing to do with Nuerness. Ngundeng also cannot encourage Nuer tribe to commit attrocities on other tribes in the South because this is not his business. He is a prophet and his business was to educate his people about what will happen from his time and to next generation. If there are people who are missled by Ngundeng’s prophesy among the Nuers, then these people are really wrong on the basis of their ignorance. Ngundeng is our African and South Sudan Prophet.

    To say that Ngundeng was suffering from "Schizophrenia" shows that you are suffering from the lack of knowledge about what is prophet. I agree with the one who says that African cannot believe in their own black African prophets except if that prophet comes from Europe or America.

    No one among us have seen Prophet Ngundeng physically but to disqualify him on the basis of his tribal orgin is totally misleading.

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  • 3 September 2009 22:52, by Thyinka

    Hi Gatkuoth, Good job on the interpretation of Ngundeng’s prophecies. A lot of people like me had heard about Ngundeng’s prophecies but the question was always "what is it that Ngundeng actually said?" and it was a hard question because it is not easy to find knowledgeable people who know what he prophesied. so write as many prophecies as possible. It is a good opportunity to educate and inform people about what he said.

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    • 4 September 2009 05:03, by Nile

      keep up the good Gatkouth Deng

      God has something for ever nation so Ngundeng has no difference to those world prophets, his predictions are very important to our nation and should be translate in way that our people can acknowledge them. let’s not ignore them we are God people if God has chosen Prophet Ngundeng to predict our future why not? those doubtful individuals please don’t let hatred belinded you learn them first before you reject them. God did not say world prophets will come only from middle east, europe or Asia no.

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      • 4 September 2009 07:20, by Jok 011

        I don’t believe all about what Ngundeng says, but I blaim Ngundeng for why he didn’t let Nuer people know that, cuting the head with a nife is not good. To let you understand, you those who are blind to believe Ngundeng, it is noncence because, he tell people about Nuer, Dinka, murle,Southerners,jalaba killing each other, which is old business and nothing about people intelectuality or future civilization. So if he was not a human being who gave Nuer the nife which they cut their head all together with the sensitive thinking nerve, than he might be the first wurnyang who told Nuer to go and distroy Bor with out being kill, but if you get kill, than you will wake up again just like Trabi did to the 1994 mujaadin when he gave them keys and tell them that they will go to heaven and open their when they get kill.

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  • 4 September 2009 05:49, by tut lam chol

    DEAR EDITOR,
    YEAH IT IS CRITICAL POINT TO KNOW SOMETHING ESPECIALY CULTURE AND HERITAGE. SO NGUNDENG’S PROPHERCIES LET THEM BE KNOWN WORLD WIDE, IF WE KNOW THEM. SO THAT IS OUR RECOGNITION, I MEAN PEOPLES COULD IDENTIFY US FROM THE OTHERS JUST FOR THE CULTURE AND HISTORICAL BACKGROUND. SO WE SHOULD NOT IGNORE THESE MESSAGE.
    THANK YOU FOR TELLING STORY ABOUT NGUNDENG’S PROPHECIES.

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