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August 10, 2009 (KHARTOUM) — The former Southern rebels in Sudan warned today that they may resort to unilateral declaration of independence if no agreement is reached with the dominant National Congress Party (NCP) on the referendum law.

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A handout picture released by the United Nations Mission in Sudan (UNMIS) shows SPLA (Sudan People’s Liberation Army) troops (AFP)

The SPLM Secretary General Pagan Amum speaking at the party’s headquarters in the Sudanese capital said that the choice of unity versus independence is contingent upon the realization of the “true interests” of Southerners.

Amum accused the NCP of placing “unrealistic” conditions for the referendum to take place.

The 2005 Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA) stipulates that a referendum is to be held in 2011 by which Southern Sudanese will vote to decide on whether they want to have their own state or remain part of united Sudan.

However, the delay in approving the referendum law casts doubts on whether the process can be held on time.

Among the key sticking points is the percentage of votes required in the referendum to declare it favoring independence, the population allowed to vote, determining the post-referendum process and the share of Sudan’s debts the South would carry with it if it secedes.

The NCP is pushing for a 75% ‘Yes’ vote for South Sudan to be allowed to secede, something the SPLM rejects.

Furthermore, the SPLM rejects the participation of Southerners living outside the South in the referendum

The head of international media at the NCP Abdel-Rahman Al-Zouma told the Qatar based Al-Jazeera Arabic TV that his party wants the referendum to include all Southerners “and not just the SPLM,” saying the latter wants limited participation.

He further said that the secession is a red line for the government accusing Amum of being a separatist.

Mandoor Al-Mahdi, the head of the NCP’s political bureau said that any such move would be a "new rebellion against the constitution" adding that the goverment wll respond accordingly.

In the past, the NCP has said that it interprets CPA as asking both the North and the South to make the separation option more difficult.

Last month the Sudanese president Omer Hassan Al-Bashir warned that the secession of the South “will open the appetite of separatists in any position in the North and South and Africa whose borders were determined by the colonial powers,” adding that unity is in the interest of both sides.

However, Al-Bashir stressed that they want to encourage “voluntary unity”.

The former US State Department special envoy to Sudan Roger Winter has told US lawmakers last week that said that the South may be forced to unilaterally declare independence if the referendum “is frustrated by Khartoum’s actions and/or the hollow commitments of the international community,”.

The US special envoy to Sudan Scott Gration had expressed worry that skipping the already delayed 2010 national elections may make it very difficult to hold credible referendum in Abyei and South Sudan in 2011.

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  • 11 August 2009 04:58, by oshay

    Amum is a fool blinded by his hatred and Marxist trash. South Sudan if it chooses to go independent will the enter as the newest member of the world’s failed states. Illiteracy rates,HIV rates are astronomical. No infrastructure, an extremely corrupt and arguably repressive junta of bush fighters motivated by tribalism.

    I believe the NCP should allow Southerners to right to exercise self determination however unilateral withdrawal will not help anything and will go against the principles of the CPA.

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    • 11 August 2009 05:22, by Jeremiah Mach

      Dumb Oshay,
      every Nation is born out of hardship and difficulties, it should not bother you if we are corrupt or to be listed with those failed States, we are determine to learn new thing, we believed in progress and reason. please shut up Southern Sudan is a running away train and Khartoum has missed it for all, i should not hesitate to say so.

      Thank you

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      • 11 August 2009 05:32, by oshay

        I’m not an Arab but I guarantee they will not be losing any sleep if the South decides to secede.

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        • 11 August 2009 06:54, by Malakal

          Why are you loosing sleep then if they won’t? Try to file up some cash right now Mr. Oshay because your job as special agent for the Islamists in the North does not look promising atleast after 2011. Your extremists think they are smart that is why they are reluctanly dragging their feet not wanting to implement any legitimate aspect of the CPA. They are toiling, (people like you obviously), trying to exhaust and hoping to eventually frustrate the SPLM, in hope that the SPLM may abandon its objective pursuit goal of self-determination. I bet it will not work this time around. Your claim that the Southerners are illiterate simply contribute to your naivete in your field. By the way, you do not have to be a Northern Sudanese to live in the North, you could still be eligible to live in the North after the South separate. Perhaps you have a phobia to separation, in that case you aught to leave in Khartoume, but you definetely need to start looking for a job.

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          • 11 August 2009 11:43, by Akuma

            I think Sudan People’s Liberation Movement is working for interes and freedom of Southerners, if the party need to declare unilateral independence then none of southern would not reject because that what we are stuggling for since 1906 until now. we can not waiting for referendum time because Our partners in Northern Sudan and the arabs world are not help with the independence of Southerners especially the Eygpt are planning to reject it.

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        • 11 August 2009 07:02, by Monye Jur

          Oshia

          You are a big Arab or a traitor, your usual comment justify that. If you are not an Arab as you are claiming then why is it mattering you? leave the southerners alone and keep quite. Or else if you are not an Arab nor southerner then find your way out.

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          • 11 August 2009 11:52, by Akuma

            No matter how big Mr. Oshay arab traitor he is, he will not block the Southerners rights since he is the an Arab ally, Mr. Oshay, remember that the robe the our party SPLM is pulling with NCP party in North, when it brake and you not tied up then you will remain Arab slave until your time come to leave our envirnment.

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        • 11 August 2009 07:03, by Dool Dit

          Hey Oshay

          Your parents nature is weak that apply to your genetic that,s why your comments have never support South Sudan ideology is it fear for Arab?

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        • 11 August 2009 07:51, by jaymack

          i think oshay has a point, the arabs found us in sudan and sudan is called the land of the blacks....so why should we give them our land and trap ourselves in a new landlocked country with tribal violence and corruption. you got to look at the big picture... we dont have arabs in the sudan, just confused black muslims who have identity crisis....sudan shall forever remain an african state....the pros outweigh the cons when we stay united, the reasons for separation are naive and costly.....

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          • 11 August 2009 20:21, by mohamad adam

            jaymack you are the one who has the true point i do salute your clear and mature words we northerners are just confused true africans and wether the south secede or not northerners will nwotice one time the truth that we took the wrong side by clicking on the arab world thank you for the coment and you remind me of my late fathers great predictions

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        • 11 August 2009 07:59, by Talent South Produces

          What are elements behind NCP argument for inclusiveness of all Southern Sudanese to participate in anticipates 2011 referendum?
          I am interesting if NCP head of international media Mr. Abdel-Rahman Al-Zouma could make it clear to all of us Southerners what is really behind so that we help him in his point of argument.
          To me it is up to South Sudanese people & their Government to decide which we way they need to vote in 2011. NCP must wait and see which way South will follow. I believe NCP has grayed believe of brain- washed Southern residents who had been helping them since, as it has been a subject of years of Struggle ‘not kulusena alawa’ I believe. There is no other way around gate at least you come through it and faces gate guard.

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      • 11 August 2009 12:56, by Moses Kur Akech

        No doubt, declaration of independence has to be prioritised if NCP keeps coming up with unrealistic impossibilities aimed at thwarting South independence with Egypt as the power behind the thrown.

        Freedom of mankind causes human life and labour but it values a lot after you got it. Southerners should not fear or allow their hearts being shaken by these kinds of unscrupulous and covert maneuvers being discharged by regimes which care little about southern citizens.
        Many thank Amum I am sure Southerners will stand firm should that be the ultimate choice which can beget freedom of southerners.
        Moses

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    • 11 August 2009 05:31, by murlescrewed

      Oshay,

      Try to stick to facts and not the rubbish coming from the hatemongerers who have done more than enough to tear the country down. Look at what they did in Darfur. Believe me, South is capable of governing itself without North. Your current employer, the NCP, is nothing more than a cabal of corrupt and power-hungry thugs who plotted how to bring down the country. They will never dare force SPLM/A to resort to forceful means because that will spell the end of your rotten regime. It just happened that SPLM is what is propping up the so-called government of national unity. If South decides to escalate insecurity in the North, Darfur rebels would get better weapons and support in terms of bases than they are currently facing.

      Not only can South create a nightmare for North, we can change the entire power equation within 6 months if we choose to.

      Astronomical HIV rates? Where do you get your stats? Al-Intihaba? Go to WHO Web site and get better statistics my friend. The HIV rate in the South is less than 2% and that is way better than what can be said about greater Khartoum region. You have bunch of homosexuals in the North running around in robes and what do you get? Higher rates that in our conservative South.

      We do have infrastructural problems but we will be better off than having to live with haters like you in a united Sudan. What is the illiteracy rate in the North? You people don’t even speak English in the same percentage prevalent in the South.

      Comrade Pagan is a real patriot who has never lost sight of why South rebelled. He is doing exactly what 99% of Southerners expect him to day. For an individual of mediocre intellect question his beliefs is laughable and ludicrous.

      Tribalism is a fact of life everywhere. Even you Northerners have the same problems. There are a handful of tribes benefiting from Al-Bashir’s corrupt administration while many continue to live in abject poverty. Just because there isolated incidents of fighting in the South that are created by agents of Khartoum intelligence, doesn’t mean that we cannot create a functioning government in the South.

      Utilize well thought out argument and not fallacious rants just because you are paid to monitor anti-Khartoum articles for the Sudanese embassy in Washington, D.C.

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    • 11 August 2009 05:42, by Thonchamkelei Purcula

      A pupet of your likes would of course not hesitate to insult a hero and a freedom fighter. Idiots like you, whose survival depends to the large extend on how much hatred you spread, has no choice but to live on capitalizing on issues that do not embrace unity. When you picked on illiteracy, HIV/AIDs and tribalism, but fail to attribute them to evil-islamic regime in Khartoum, clearly shows how norrow your knowledge is about Sudan issues you try to talk about. Mind you, comes 20012, when South must have gone, you will see how harsh the life will treat you in the north. The only way out for people like you and evil community would be to insititutionalize prostitution, crook and other disgrace way of life. shame on you!

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    • 11 August 2009 06:30, by Metabolic

      Dear Oshay and other readers,

      It does not come as a surprise and a mind boggling to descent individuals to see to it that the party of God: I mean the NIF party has runs out of tricks and resorted to arming the local militias in Junglei State, and finally dragging their feet on referendum laws. It was expected and as long as Sudan still stays the same, more is expected to come by before 2011. The creation of the so called SPLM-DC and activities of various militias, and other groups who dwell from their bellies are nothing but tip of the iceberg. The SPLM/SPLA must not just use carrot and stick when it comes to these bunches of thieves and criminals, but must always deliver ultimatum that our patience as people is wearing thin and we cannot wait for 2011. Also, they must put Southern Sudan and marginalized peripheries of the Sudan on high alert as balkanization of the Sudan is imminent. Gone are the days when few gangs of thieves and criminals would woke up and went over Radio Omdurman to announce their coup, thanks to Comprehensive Peace Agreement!

      Mr. Oshay, we all have homes, cities to which we hailed from and deeply attached to, and it does not require a rocket science to know that Southern Sudan is better off than the north you are proud when it comes to who own what. If we were not better off as you wanted us to believe, why did your Frankenstein regime keep drumming useless unity that has done nothing but war for the last 53 years of our independence? It is morally wrong in current classrooms and school of thought to come up with unsubstantiated and raw data just to prove your incompetency and that the future of the north is indeed in bad hands if you were to hold the mantle of their power. For your information, the person you described here is not comrade Pagan Amum Okiech, the man that we all Southern Sudanese always pounded our chests with pride because he is not only a honorable man but stood firm for the last 22 years of our struggle. In fact, the opposite could be true of those of half-hearted Africans like Dr. Lam Akol, Abel Alier, Riek Gai Kook, Gordon Koang, and opportunistic stooges like you who participate in the looting of resources of our homeland over half a century without appreciation.

      Also, if Southern Sudan chooses to go their way as of today, there is no way you can just prophesize and predicted it as a failed state because northern Sudan is paradoxically a failed state without doubt. In nutshell, asserting control over national capital does not mean the NIF regime is still in full control of the entire Sudanese society and I would like to remind you that everywhere in the country are the blue helmet soldiers called peacekeeping forces. For if the Sudanese citizens don’t trust their own government for protection and national defense, what good does it do for us anymore to believe in it? It is only in the Sudan where you cannot understand and believe that the taxes paid by the Sudanese people, the weapons bought from the Russia and China to defend the Sudanese people, and the army created and trained to defend their homeland, is indeed used against the very same people! Is that not a shame and disgrace when the air force planes take off from Al Fashir only to bombard the suburbs of Al Fashir and its population? Is that not a headaching for you and I when Sudanese Army planes take off from Khartoum only to bomb the Sudanese citizens in Omdurman (see Justice and Equality Movement attack on Omdurman). You must make sense and careful with whatever come out from your mouth because writing trashes underworld will haunt you for life.

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    • 11 August 2009 08:09, by murlescrewed

      Junubeen,

      Looks like there are a lot of pissed off net-rats out there ready to pick Kalashyinkov and protect the motherland. There are a lot of fundamentals that are different from those faced by fathers in 1983.

      They started rebellion by running into the bush and left major towns in the hands of Jallabah. Today, it is different. We have better weapons, strategically positioned, and could count on Darfurians to join us than we did in 26 years ago. Simply put; NCP is bluffing and playing with fire. In fact, SPLA is positioned to annihilate the SAF at first instance of war. So sleep tight and don’t worry too much.

      In the meantime, think of how we can actually contribute skills and resources to prepare for what is likely to be an easy war than what our fathers faced.

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    • 11 August 2009 08:52, by Achuil Manyuat Tong

      I think Oshah does not know what Amum is refering to here.it is very clear in his statement that if the don’t agree on some issues .SPLM will resort to unilateral declaration of independent.Allowing voters from abroad alone is one way bring more complication into the referendum. Sudan is not well up to manage election which include people from abroad when it has never had any free and fair eletion in the past.The NCP want to simply block the reFerendum. when diplomatic means fails one has to resort to other means.NCP can not pull the owners of the soil .

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    • 11 August 2009 09:24, by Johnny

      IS oshay son of president Omar al-Bashir? his name sound like dor (equatoria son), I don’t know if Bashir had been married to southern lady.

      please anyone there, tell me the truth, this boys might be the son of president Omar al-bashir.

      I can’t believe, if you are son of southerner.

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    • 11 August 2009 09:58, by Flora Tong

      I am just wondering how come you are the first person to have a comment all the time. Is your only job browsing internet?

      Any way, Southern Declaration of independence is just a dream. How can that happen if we buy everything from match box, drinking water, tomato, fuel, salt and almost everything from outside? SPLM should be preaching independence from getting everything from other countries and starting producing for ourselves. That is the true independence.

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    • 11 August 2009 11:11, by el tag

      Oshay,

      I believe that your motive is to wind up the boys who comment on this site. You seem be an imbecile with small brain who enjoys irritating people. I really found your comments on 7th August 2009 on Dr Garag were very abusive and irrelevant to Postponement of Doha Meeting (did you read my response?).

      However, if the south decided to have their own state, they will be better off. At leat they can avoid the mistakes done in old Sudan (e.g. mismanagement of resources). They can build a complete new country and look after their well-being so what wrong with that? Taking into account that Singapore was in similar situation before separating from Malaysia (e.g. after being started from scratch today Singapore is a world financial centre).

      It seems to me that the NCP is going to deceive them again. Meanwhile, these people have the rights to self-determination under the UN supervision. By the way I am not a southerner but I wish them every success!

      El Tag

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    • 11 August 2009 12:07, by Isaac Treter

      Oshay.

      I can say that you are totally worong in your own statement over here, Amum or Southern Sudanese politicians are right in their own statements.

      The matter of HIV is a worldwide problem not only for Southern Sudanese alone and this South is following the worldwide human rights standards to get rid of HIV/AIDS, NOT the quarantine and culling methods being used in Khartoum at the hospitals.

      The issue of illiteracy is a problem but southern Sudanese are now growing faster and faster in education development, so your being annoyed by the South to stand as a separate state should stop from now and remember you have been brought up using the wealths of Southern Sudan so if South Shall be an independent Nation, your country will activate pay that debts back bearing the International courts’ action like how Abyei has been declared.

      Separation for South is a basis of the CPA, it is the right of its people, you will never vote for referendum if you are not a Sotherner; for the South to secede is step which every southerner should follow, and if with out referendum the dominant khartoum refusal to approve the referendum laws shall result to the immediate declaration of the South as a Nation no matter what.

      So please be advised, stop abusing Amum; he is right in his own right for the rights of Southerners.

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    • 11 August 2009 14:30, by Jay

      South Sudan is already autonomous, is there anyone in the north in control of the South now?

      The kind of Oshay will soon be found dead with cash stub in their mouths.
      No matter how much cash they are getting in expense of the blood of innocents, they will end up cold.

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    • 11 August 2009 21:00, by juan

      Hello there, here is my question to you will the delay of the Self determination be aganist the CPA?. please get back with on that and if so delcaring the independent Suothern Sudan is the only option at this time Bro.

      Thanks
      juan

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  • 11 August 2009 05:12, by Jeremiah Mach

    This is matter of life and death, if the enemy is not implementing the peace, then SPLM has got absolute right to declare independent Unilateraly. the percentage valid to require South to go should not be a matter of whether they vote 100%, but should be a case of majority votes, percentage should be determine by the turn out, and if 40 percent favour independent and 36 percent favour unity, South will still go, because all we need is a majority verdict, it doesn’t matter what percentage it should be.

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    • 11 August 2009 06:02, by Mabior Ayuen Dengajok

      This is what I have been waiting for, why not declaring our independence?
      It’s was first Idea from Dr. Riek Machar that we should fight for an Independent of South Sudan, but Dr. Garang Mabior did not agree upon, we lost heavy casualties due to the reason of fighting for liberation of independent of whole Sudan, suppose to be an independence of South Sudan, we could have enjoy our freedom ever since, it’s not too late now, this is right time.

      Back to Torit uprising, there was an agreement, again another agreement in1972, was not respected by Khartoum government and yet again the current peace (CPA) is not well implemented to the way it should be. There is no point for government of South Sudan to be too worried about the “CPA” if NIF doesn’t respect the agreements or they have gone back to their previous characters of 1972, however, we demanded our brave soldiers of South to take this action serious, let dependent our motherland.

      The only option is to declare it, pull stop

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      • 11 August 2009 09:33, by Johnny

        Hi Mabior,

        When Dr. John Garang DE Mabior signed the peace, he said "I am not signing this peace for me or pres Bashir, this is for you people of Sudan". before the peace was signed, in Rumbek he told us (southerners) "it’s unto you to decided either to be a second citizen or the first".

        politicians are not 99% direct to the point, please don’t take the cover with looking at what was inside?

        We could have been independent three years ago if Dr. John Garang DE Mabior was with us.

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        • 12 August 2009 02:46, by Mel mosa

          Mr Mabior, You are right for sayings of Dr Garang. He was absolutely 99% when he said that. He knew that we are not choose to be even second class while we have a lot oppotunities be the first class. But I am not sure of independent if Dr Garang A live.

          Any way, politics is something very complicated. All Southern Sudanese need to rule whole Sudan if possible. At the same time they need independent if they fail to rule Sudan. When Riek said that he want independent of South Sudan, he wasn’t really means that. He wanted to be the head of Splem/a. At the same, Garang was not against independent of South but want to make the movement more attractive to Sudanese.

          So, Mr Amum is right. If the ncp government still treat Southerners cruel, the Southerners have the right to depart from North. There is no question about that.
          Thanks

          Mosa

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    • 11 August 2009 06:18, by Santo Deng

      Oshay,

      If you are a black African Sudanese as you have always been claiming,I bet you are only black in color and a living testimony to how you have been successfully brain-washed and indoctrinated by the Arab-wannabes in Sudan!

      You have been espousing so much hatred against southern Sudanese and their leadership on this website,however, I assure you that southern Sudan and its people would navigate themselves out of this mess and God willing a new Southern Sudan State that will emerge would stand tall among the nations by the efforts of its people and its nationalistic and able leadership in the person of Mr.Pagan Amum and others who you are hell-bent on denigrating in vain!

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  • 11 August 2009 05:50, by Kur

    The people of South Sudan know the cunning attitudes of the NIF. We know what we want and intimidation will not deter our vote. But the reality is this we do not need a referendum law to get what we want. We chose to fight for our rights and we will do so if anybody stands on our way to freedom. So if the regime is applying a delaying tactics to frustrate the peaceful process of referendum, then we are not here to beg anybody to give us our rights. We will take what is rightfully ours at the time of our own choosing.

    Mr. Pagan, this is the language the people of South Sudan have been expecting from leaders like you. We now feel confident that our march to freedom is guided by the interests of the people of South Sudan. We do not care whether our ambitions pleases anybody or not. Our interests must be realized not later than the time frame the CPA has set.

    Kur

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  • 11 August 2009 06:07, by Oduck Bol

    Southerns have tow options either be independent and do your things alone event there are lot of problems or unity and then be under Shari law which is against southern and be slave for ever. I do not need Goss to declare independent which will bring violence ,let them wait until time come for vote. Nothing will keep us with Muslims. In 2011 we hug with northern and say good bye them.

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    • 11 August 2009 13:13, by tayeb M. Alhassan

      Oduck Bol!!

      You are much wiser. We are waiting for an on-time smooth split to bid goodbye, or unity if it comes as the best option for the Southern silent majority waiting for the ballot day. Sudan is not a private property for any one to decide for unilaterally. We got stuck for 50 years because of the unilateral dump thoughts and ideas now adopted by Pagan Amom !!

      Beleive me any outcome coming out of the 2011 elections is warmly welcomed to close doors for the 3rd obtion which is WAR.

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  • 11 August 2009 06:11, by Akol Liai Mager

    Mr Pagan Amum, a charistmatic and energetical young leader knows how to strike and knock down the enemies of New Sudan. Amum got the wisdom, courage and the backing of New Sudan masses. He reasons his points with clear and understandable language that enable his message to run across borders.

    With his intelligence, charisma, wide range of experiences and wisdom, Mr Amum managed to forced NIF new ally Scott Gration to retreat from his remarks he made in-front of SU Congress two weeks ago.

    Mr Amum has abilities to assist NIF to use a short-cut to separate North Sudan from rest of the country. Separating the North was a second major NIF option should first option of crushing SPLM/A fail. Now, history is telling that NIF first option has failed and its gone off the table for good.

    The only thing NIF leaders did not take into account is the fact that; they did not anticipate what would happen to Kordofan, South Blue Nile and Darfur. They thought it is the south that can go if Southerners do not want to live in a racist Arab and Islam System of old Sudan.

    They (NIF leaders) also did not take into account that New Sudan has tougher leaders than Dr. Garang whom they wrongly calculated that he may go into grave with New Sudan Vision should they they manage to assassinate him. They, or their allies managed to get rid of Garang, but shocked by the powers and abilities of New Sudan young generation leaders and how tougher they are.

    Keep up Mr Amum until Old Sudan’s remnant leaders accept New Sudan Vision, transfer it to a national constitution, or follow her sister Yoguslavia into history.

    After failing to crush SPLM/A militarily, NIF leaders have only one option left for them and that’s unilaterally declaring the separation of the north minus Kordofan, South Blue Nile and Darfur, or jump into a train of the SPLM which is New Sudan Vision. The destination of this train will be either a new united Sudan, a Sudan that will display only her true identity, or no Sudan, but five (5) Sudans.

    for those who blamed Amum or SPLM please, I would like to advise you to blame Sadiq Al Siddiq Abderahaman, his brother In-Law Al Turabi with his various NIF Factions for the collapse of Sudan and leave Mr Amum alone

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    • 11 August 2009 07:19, by Ajuscommando

      SPLM/A leadership sound good to the public and this was the real our interest we Southerners to have independent country than to stay again with these terrorists of Middle East living in Khartoum. Please enough is enough and let forget them for good in our life of new Sudan as our father of new Sudan John Garang told the public before his death that, Sudan will not be same again and there will equality. I have no strong word to appreciate GOSS now due to happiness so keep on threat Arabs and collaborate of South Sudan.

      Ajus

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    • 11 August 2009 07:35, by Maruon Ayiei

      We will be behind such scale whether they resort in a military conforntation or curve into a unilaterally declaration of independent of southerners. This is not say what but a real and sensitive to us. If some clown in Khartoum think that they will initiate any kind of rague tactic this time, go for it and don’t try to brag and drag us into your old tactic. We are better than that and if you people are still lagging in understanding what we stand for all those years, you better study the history and the event that occur a long it. Pagan was a comrads, student, brother, a teacher and a cousin to Dr John Garang. He understood your old ploy and he is sticking to you folk in Khartoum. To my fellows southerners, this agent called Oshay is just a buy-out who live and eat on Khartoum leave alone being an insurgent to southerners. Khartoum has not yet got it but all dice are not favor to them and God bet, let them try to fight the SPLM/A. This will be their lastmare in the emperor in Sudan. They know very well how many enemies they have than friends and they will not defeated the SPLM/A even without other opposing forces that will attack Khartoum. Just let the dying horse died alone.

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  • 11 August 2009 07:28, by BUSTA 2

    SOUTH SUDAN CAN’T BE WITHOUT NORTH!!

    SPLM ARE NOT READY TO RULE SOUTH SUDAN THEREFORE, DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE IS SIMPLY CAUSING SUIDE.

    KIIR CANNOT BE SOUTH SUDAN PRESIDENT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENED.

    BROTHER IN CHRIST,

    BUSTA 2

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    • 11 August 2009 07:52, by TG

      I suggest u kill ur self, because splitting of the south is imminent

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    • 11 August 2009 07:54, by Maruon Ayiei

      Dude Busta,

      Seriously, are you mentally sound or do you need some medical attention? You are always contrary to our subjection all the time and you still write brother in Christ or are you just another crook under the Mundukuru umbrella? We in southern sudan don’t want those conflicting views which give thugs in Khartoum some leg they can argue on. You better shut up or stop characterizing yourself brother in Christ. There are no nutt in Christ philosophical view as you do describe yourself. You better stop subscribing yourself and live on thier dime. Get-it-off yourself or the land of your grand grand grandparent will one day ask you what are doing.

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  • 11 August 2009 07:37, by Samson Shawel Ambaye

    Bashirs are genocide criminals and SPLM is freeing Southern Sudan from criminals.

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    • 11 August 2009 08:01, by DASODIKO

      Go a head SPLA/M; its an other door opened for other parts of Sudan to declare unilateral independent from Arab selfish fagots, who have manipulated our brother Africans for decades.Now let them reject the idea and we will expell them out of Africa not even Sudan. Then we will think about Egyptians who sometimes become African Pharos and in an other Arab, they must clarify their position either balck or white.All Arabs go to hell

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      • 11 August 2009 08:17, by Lado Joseph

        nfo@ssla.org
        info@ssla.gov.sd
        Hon. Rev. Michael Muot Diew
        Hon. Georget Lat Mading
        Hon. Paulino Apinyi Akol
        Hon. Peter Bashir Gbandi
        Hon. Arop Madut Arop
        Hon. Benjamin Akon Bol
        Hon.Brig. Gen. James Duku Janka
        To distinguished -Southern Sudan Legislative Assembly Memebers
        Hon. Rev. Michael Muot Diew
        Hon. Georget Lat Mading
        Hon. Paulino Apinyi Akol
        Hon. Peter Bashir Gbandi
        Hon. Arop Madut Arop
        Hon. Benjamin Akon Bol
        Hon.Brig. Gen. James Duku Janka
        I’m writing to you as a concern Citizen, I know that you do have power to fix this problem. Distinguish, I have following SSTV since its inception and I did make some observations as a viewer, to tell the truth, l am a fraud Southern Sudanese and I would like us to show to the world that we can make a better TV.
        - Our SSTV is on the air for sixteen hours, three hours only are dedicated to the live programs, there is more singers and dancers that are been played over and over, one singer could be repeated five times a day (don’t you see that as boring and a waste of time)
        - Audio problems, the whole program could go up to the end without audio (don’t they monitor what is been aired?)
        - Displayed of unedited and un-scrutinized Videos
        - Repetition of programs even more than necessary (that mean they repeat one thing so many times)
        - Spelling mistakes when displaying text at bottom of the screen (no correction had been done so far, the word can be on screen for two days and no one dear to corrected it)
        - Lack of educational programs(they can order those programs from United Nations for free)
        - No phone nor e-mail provided to the viewer so that they can contact SSTV for complains or simple to report any technical problem
        - No programming for the viewers to know what is coming up tomorrow or in the next hour
        - The presenters of the program are usually running over guests, that mean they don’t let their guests finish what they were trying to say instate they want to grab the next caller
        - No commercials nor small business promotions, I think those things deserve attention.
        - The folklore, traditional dance, singers and South African musicians are become daily routine on our TV, are been repeated over and over, people are getting tired of it, and even though are good, that doesn’t mean you have to abuse them.
        Thanks a lot and I hope for the best
        Long live our President Salva Kiir Mayardiit
        Long live SPLM/A
        Long live GOSS
        Long live SSLA
        Long live SSTV
        Yours in Strugglr
        Lado
        Believe me a lot of people are become sick and tired of repeated programs

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        • 11 August 2009 08:58, by Thon

          By thon5.
          Congratulation Amum,
          This displays that you patriotic and conservative leader of the south though you are old you have youth’s heart stick on that you are right to refuse the power withoutn principle many southerners are behind.

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  • 11 August 2009 09:19, by jalabi

    Dump idiot Pagan!!

    Yes, we are very eager than you to unilateral declaration of independence!! go ahead and declare it and believe me we will celeberate it in Khartoum because we are not going to loose anything but we will feel relief when the sick and cancer organ cutt off! soon you will never be able to make your shit in Khartoum and north any more idiot Pagan, do you think one day you will be the south president?? of course not because you’re Shulluk and that position is locked for Dinka only as that new state is going to be nothing more than a piece of hell and ugly tribal garbage.

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    • 11 August 2009 10:29, by Henry Wande

      The Southern Sudan is a newly borned State in 2011. Weather what pagan said or by the ballet box.

      The government in Khartoum gave up the South since 2005 after the signing of the CPA. This is the prove, the MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT TAKING IN THE NORTHERN SUDAN.

      1- constructions of modern high ways network
      2- Modern Industries and Urban developments
      3- Modern Hospitals, Schools, Air ports, Agriculures ...
      4- Merowe Dam etc, etc...

      Is there anything done in the South by the government in Khartoum to make Unity attractive?! I don’t think we need a maginified glass to look for these facts.

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      • 12 August 2009 14:28, by Sudanese only

        What about the billions given to Kiir to develop the South? Where are they? Do you want to be given all the monay and other marginalised parts not developed at all? What selfishness !! Is this what you fought for all these years?

        I am happy you noticed the MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT in the North and its absence in the South ! Now USE YOUR BRAIN TO KNOW THE REASON and I know you will get back to the corruption at SPLM leadership !! So is UNITY attractive now ??

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    • 11 August 2009 10:31, by budi 23rd journalist

      To Stupid terorist jalabi.
      very soon your country will be declared a terorist state.
      We southerners donr care about what you gonna say.
      About southern sudan if Dinka wonna dominate it, then we equatorian will come up with other option, either declare equatoria a country, three states are enough to keep us away from Dinka dominnance government its simple not forgetting bringing Murle in as well becoz they seems to be tired of Dinka too.

      if rwanda, burundi are small countries by its self, what a hect is going on with equatoria, very soon after referendum, we southerners will have something small to cry of, eg, war for the equatorian independence. and i know eastern sudan and darfur very soon will declafre independence too. so take care

      Im not an stupid arabs but true southern sudanese from Chukudum.

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      • 11 August 2009 10:55, by Biliu

        Good to know that you are a Southerner, then I would have to call you the stupid of the South, already speaking of waging a war against your brothers???!!!!… I wonder where you have been for the last 20 years, the bleeding which took place for our freedom as a whole was a shared bleeding, not only Dinka, Nuer, Shilok..Murle >>>>>>> alone died for it but all the southerners, as so the fruits of freedoms are for us all, if ever we sensed unjust action from any one at all, we have our democratic methods to declare our stand but not carrying arms against each other.. wake up and try not to be a fool for I believe you are not!

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      • 12 August 2009 00:20, by jalabi

        As soon as you launch the war against Dinka we will help you out, we will open white hand for you equatorians, you are lucky because you have strategic location in the south and you can easily get help from neighbor countries and north as well, Nuer are lucky too because they have two doors open one in north and the other in Ethiopia we can help them out as well. Fortunately, Dinka have only one door open in north, if they ask north for help north will give them a mine instead, Dinka are trouble makers and all these mess in the south and north because of them, let us just put all of them in one container and ship them out of the south and put them in any isolated island near the continent :-)

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        • 16 August 2009 05:55, by james

          Jalabi, do me a favor and shut up. We Nuer will never turn against any other tribes in The south cause they are our brother. for u southerners for once in ur life open ur eyes damn. This arab is tring to continue doing what is grandparent had done by fooling southerners and turning em against themself. South will be independent regardless of whatever and we will one day forget about tribes as our children live as brothers and sisters. so please God help us. ohh and i would advice all of u to leave oshay or oshit alone his time his near.

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    • 11 August 2009 11:13, by Biliu

      Obviously you are missing some points here, it’s not us
      Who are sticking to what so call unity, it’s your avaricious unlawful ancestors who consider south as free marketing place for them, we are not the cancer but you are and it’s time to amputate you once and for all, later on we will quell you out of the whole Sudan and let the rightful owner overrule Sudan…shear up and be eager you’re the end of your dawn is reaching soon.

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  • 11 August 2009 10:36, by Biliu

    Such a delusive attitude was quite expected from the NCP, and for my surprise, MR. Abdel-Rhaman saying that "secession is a red line for the government" what have the NCP achieved on the ground that would made unity attractive or voluntarily, what we have been witnessing is a full encouragement from the NCP for the Southerners to go for Separation, they may not loudly declare it but the NCP actions are far obvious on that. Unless Mr. Abdel-Rhaman is sending a coded intimidation to the Southerners, there’s no point of speaking for unity which is not feasible on the ground.

    CPA provisions and the Sudan Interim Constitution are the ground we stand firm as Southerners, and agreed mechanism is needed for a full implementation of the CPA most important provisions (The Referendum) as so butting unrealistic provisos by the NCP will not leave the Southerners with no option except an unilateral declaration for independence, that’s the fact which NCP is pushing the GOSS to adopt so later on it can use it as a pretext to wage a war on the South.

    Brother Pagan, I see no point of rewarding those vultures of the NCP what they are wishing for, CPA was an accord sponsored by International Parties, if the NCP is reluctant to abide by it a message to those International Parties explaining the whole situation would be good enough and then and only then we would see from there what our next step would be.

    As the NCP is pushing for 75% yes to declare independences, I say 51 yes to declare independence, furthermore, if the NCP is insisting to include all southerners including those abroad, yes to that but on one condition, let it be under the UN sponsorship along with equal representatives/ observers from both sides, seal the ballot boxes and directly sent to South for counting.

    To our astray brother ( Oshay), realities never turn into dreams but perhaps dreams will turn into realities, building a country is never come easy or without a cost, we already lost 2.5 souls for the sake of new Sudan, a Sudan where all are equal, if the unity your uncles are calling for is the same old ugly unity where Arab are kings, mercenaries like your kind are retinue, then try not to dream of it at all.!

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    • 11 August 2009 11:13, by abushama

      Thank you my friend for having shared your experiences.In fact the Arabs accepted the CPA but did not implement it and this is a sign of thier refusal.

      Most of the things that were had agreed,with Arabs, are not being done , if they were to be done we can say that what Mr. Abdel Rhaman of NCP said may be true that unity is attractive but instead the agreement exists by itself with one side but the other side has disappeared.

      As I think sometimes what the Arabs are doing are enough logical premises for us to go for separation.

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  • 11 August 2009 11:44, by Joseph Dut Gak

    THOSE WHO ARE UNWILLING!
    Those who are always to go just near by will hear it so hard if the independence is declared .

    That is the interest of the Southerners Mr Amum is the SPLM secretary general and he know more informations about what is going there.

    wish good lack.

    Dut

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  • 11 August 2009 11:47, by Baaibor

    I don’t believe he really means what he said because this is not the time to post threats to the NCP. Amum is aiding the enemy for declaring what is in heart of Southerners if the North or NCP is not cooperating with Junub. I think that is bad idea to post threat at this moment while we are two years away to the referendum. There are many elements of NCP in the South that will let the enemy equips themselves before the referendum. let’s not supports this kind of rethoric from Amum.

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  • 11 August 2009 11:51, by kamal

    Sudan is Arabic Muslim country in the sense of culture including the language and religion which united the majority.
    The Arabs did not replace the local people like Israel,but they mix with them and some still not mixed but most of them are nomadic when there is no international borders.
    For people labeling north as arabs and south as blacks has no ground to stand on.Who can say that Danagla, Mahas and halfawyeen in north sudan is arabbs not africans?president Numiri ruled 16 years is one one them,should they be cleaned out of Sudan?what about hadandwa and amarar, four,masaleet...
    the fact is that Islam has lifted the north above tribalism and racism.
    The south sudan is closed by Britith rulers to stop the cltural mxing and to make a big gab between north and south and they are succeeded.

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    • 11 August 2009 12:53, by Ajuscommando

      Dear Kamal, Sudan is not Arabia country but African country since Arabs got black African in Sudan and you came as traders through red sea.
      On behave of those who blamed Pagan Amum on what he has spoke about South Independence, you are zero + zero = nothing. Pagan Amum is 100% right to said that word because when shall we strength ourselves to fight North even the time we have enough Military hardware in our hands. I know Pagan Amum cannot fear Arabs like those who blame him since he was a good military Officer during struggling as he was in new Sudan near Kassal North Sudan. Pagan always speaks for the future of South as most of his statements are positive to public interest. I agree with Pagan for the South independence and let Khartoum do what they want since they don’t want to implement referendum law which is Southerners right. Arabs will stop denying Southerner right if we shall not talks like pagan and threat them at them sometime. I think those who deny Pagan statement are PSLM-DC supporters who are after Bashir money with Lam Akol.

      Ajus

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      • 11 August 2009 13:59, by Abuk D- Nhial

        My millions thanks go to all wise brave couragous legetimate Southern Sudanes patriots who commended here convincingly showing their inalienable rights for SELF DETERMINATION.
        Except few of us who are known as illetrate ilegetimate Arab enslaved traterios midwives are commending to encourage their Northern husbands.No matter how their names pronounced differently like, Jalaabi,OutDuck Bol,Oshhhy,Logic,Buzzy 22 and their likes, are popular for their dirty baseless idiotic confrontation on this webs. Let them do what they could but it will be like what animals done in the olden days to propose donkey as a dancer,frog as a singer and squirrel as an organiser of amplifications ! The programme collapsed because non of them was a proffessional to his duty !
        Once more,thankz.
        Wenebaba in Chicago.

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        • 11 August 2009 16:37, by james nyoma

          To all brave Southern Sudanese, let us forecast on our future. Let’s not be distracted by the comments of those of Oshay, busta 2 or whoever.They are already being paid for and therefore they will swim to the bottom of the Nile forever.
          We are not on our kneels begging for our rights, we are demanding for it. Whether they like it or not, we will secede. So, brothers and comrades let’s support Pagan and we will win. God bless Southern Sudan.

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  • 12 August 2009 00:11, by peter bedepiny

    Now, we got the clear picture, pretty ugly those people were planning to do nothing... utterly, nothing..!!! except to complain, thrift and embezzlement of a lot of money to buy houses in Uganda, UK, North America and Australia, what irresponsibility your names will go down in infamy until this blemish end up in junk room of history you are disgrace to you country your comrades whom corpses littered battlefields ground all over South Sudan and poor citizens of South Sudan who bore the brunt of the most sadistic punishments and mutilations, rape and child enslavement. Disgusting...!! South Sudan does not deserve this...!!!

    Comprehensive Peace Agreement was a result of 150 years of sacrifices of our people enduring aggression of the North from the time of Slaves raids of infamous Baggara Arabs through the days of Mahdiya tyranny up to the slaughter of hundreds of thousand of innocents in Ed Dein and Jableen so that at last we the South Sudanese can sit across the table with the government of the day in Khartoum and negotiate.

    Please know your history and you will know where you come from...

    I fail to see the merit to unilaterally declare the independence if the government is asking 75% for referendum result in order for South to become independent I would say make it 85%, I hate this apologetic position where SPLM had put itself in such as pathetic and baloney idea called attractive unity.

    As for the debt South Sudan will never be liable to any money owing to an Arab or Islamic country period end of the story...

    We still have a stake on the remaining Sudan given the large number of people with South Sudan roots it is through our engagement with the government to grantee their right. Not only that but what would become of our allies in Nuba mountains and Southern Blue Nile, who were with us shoulder to shoulder in our struggle it is indecent to walk away without any legal framework for their citizens and soldiers status.

    I am sure before you read this comment you have seen the picture the news piece of our a grid warriors with their arms pointed up they are ready. Ask yourself what our leaders in SPLM have done...!!!
    Over seeing populations affairs is not an arbitrary exercise and definitely not a lottery where you gamble by tossing a dice to choose what I am going to complain about next.

    North Sudan is uniting it is time for the South to unite immediately...

    Yrs, peter bedepiny

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    • 12 August 2009 10:13, by macharia

      Dear Amum you really deserved credit for being the eye of the Southerners, you have the vision of the New Sudan followings the footsteps of Dr Garang. we will follow you til our time to value Sudan. the God of Southerners will add five Pagan Amum to make somethings for us.

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      • 12 August 2009 11:04, by Dengtaath

        Hey Oshay and Jalabi, you better keep silent at this point let Southerners do what is better for them you are not invited here. For Jalabi, is not your worry if the position of presidency is locked in by Dinka, still they are Southerners they are far more better than your Bashier.

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        • 12 August 2009 19:18, by kuminyandi

          Dear Southerners,

          We need people like Oshay, Busta 2, and Jalabi in this website forum because they make us think and ultimately unite our views. Please do not use your personal emotions in this discussions, use your emotional intelligence to tackle comments of these individuals tactfully.
          Thanks.

          Kumi,

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  • 12 August 2009 12:28, by luak

    we are very happy for what Amum was siad for dreaming of idependent. for sure no affection for us we south becuase if we look and thinks people of southern sudan is not like that time when we are non educated, but now let we open our eye very well in the south.
    To be independent is most better than all therefore if we look back for two decade that we were been in war with North Arab and we sign CPA in 2005 until now death is constant and violence, killing, attact, tribinal war,in the south if we will not stand with our feet in south the death and attact will not be end my poeple.
    Arab are killers they want to finishes us one by one.
    the great massege your being southerner is not just by saying we need to fullfill the ambition of our nation including those whom were died in war we will fullfill thier need please SPLA/M and other party with in south sudan please united yourselves with one vision and support AMUM please you feel somethings don,t sleep (guan ter )is near to say no if so we also have to say no too.
    God created me in this land what can I do? if enemy come to fight me HO God keep this word to those who will readed and bless your son AMUM southern sudan Oyeeeeeeeeeeeee!!longlive forever. Amen!!!!!!!!

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    • 13 August 2009 13:58, by Makol Dhal

      The what so call head of NCP should be remain that, what Pagan said will not be asked from any body in Sudan and that is what will happened weather it rain with spear or fire.things will never be the same again.

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