23 Forum messages

• Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 22 March 2009 08:00, by Hillary B.M.L,M

  Good that Mr.President was there, ordered Arrears to be paid immediately, but the question is where have he been all this time leading to disable Soldiers mutiny? Immediate payment mean there is Money in the Safe, if so, why S.Sudan didn’t pay before any reaction from another side? what if those disabled should had kept silent? Sure their Money should have gone somewhere, this is another way of corrupting indirectly.

  

  • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 22 March 2009 09:56, by khamis Isaac

    A shame on you Mr.president, how can the war vetran never been paid for seven months while all South Sudan Government department are getting paid. Your system seem to that you solved the problems when it is arised while the government system said you encounter the problems could arised. Please try to learn the system from those who know how to the problems and I know from you is that you just one place as you do during the war doing nothing while the rest were active in their duties but this time know body you should relies on as you know that Garang is alive any more.

    you just give special promotion sitting in juba to those who never achieved anything during 22 years war and if you are asked you will not gave the answer.

    your just complaining when late john Garang give special promotion to Equatorian to boost their numbers in high rank but it seem that you are boosting your Bhar El gazle high ranking in order to keep you in power but it is the solution, bear in mind that this is your last chance in government, we will vote you out very soon.

    you feel sorry to those disable people while 8% of them are from Dinka specially your Bhar El Gazle and keep denying their right.

    If you are not able to manage South Sudan Why Don,t you step out from line and hand over the South Sudan government to one the following people: James Wani Igga, Pagan Amum,Kuol Manyang and Nhial Deng.

    

    • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 22 March 2009 11:07, by Rem Minyiel Kulangdit

      Not the case, every jobs has been divided to different instuttions, that is why people call it a system, not president to do everythings to those people who were given a big position in the government. just only to coordinated and confirm all whethers things are being run smoothly or not.But mr president you need to check a big heads who do not looking after his/her duties, in southern sudan we good people and capable of doing the right at the right place at the right time, how come for people of southern to forget these disables, while we are still waiting for many of them as all southern sudan aware the sudan now still at the guns point, we must treat them equal with others groups.we have to give them respect because they did not born in that ways, but for our freedom, as some are not alives.may god protect us all.

      

    • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 22 March 2009 11:14, by Lang Mijak DengChol.

      Mr. Hillary and Khamis Isaac,

      You both make a lot of sense in your analyses about Kiir Mayardit. Salva Kiir deserves to be voted out period. This man is not only practising corruption and allowing it to reign lavishly in South Sudan, but he is also humiliating all Southern Sudanese regionally and internationally that we can’t be able to govern and manage our nation successfully with prosperity. As a matter of fact where was this money he has just paid the grumbling soldiers? If they haven’t had protested, would they have been paid too or not? These inquiries are quite suspicious and mysteriously indicated that this money would also had been funneled to private accounts of his corruptible government/administration. Salva Kiir had become a symbol of humiliation and degradation to all South Sudanese. Iam a Dinka myself, I wish this man gone period. Not only had he failed to manage and lead South Sudan , but he has made SPLM and SPLA even more vulnerable to NCP/SAF due to his isolated policy of isolationalism. Salva Kiir doesn’t listen to his presidential advisors and the SPLM Political Bureau Commission for right political platforms of the SPLM. This difference indicate that Salva is being influenced politically by close relatives or some other private friends for his own selfish egos.Iam ashamed to be a South Sudanese by nativity.

      

    • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 23 March 2009 13:08, by lash

      Wow, what are those good for nothing jungle men doing in Nimule, Yei, Kaya and Kajo Keji? why are they not back to their stone aged villages? don’t they know that the war is over? They should not hang over in Equatoria contaminating our environment with their primitive way of living.Let them go and protest to their corrupted Dinka government in Bor and Gogrial. After all, this liberation war was a voluntary job, no body has forced anybody to fight. So stop crying like chickens. We all fought and lost parts of our bodies, yet we are keeping quite.

      

      • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 25 March 2009 06:07, by peter

        Mr wow, why you are so surprising like agokgi (monkey)who have sitted and seems a crowd of hunters passing under a fig tree. When I read your sheet message it look like you came from Uganda or Congo.

        You are separatise man, we all s.sudanese in general don’t isolate any tribe from Sudan. I know you are a group of gangst in Uganda or Kenya because you ran away from war and you don’t have any single place to stayed. You decided to robbed and homicide the civillians and that was the place you lost the lime. Being a veterans and indigenous of the country you will be proud of your people not to critise them.Please be aware and watch your mouth otherwise(.....)

        Veteran of whole Sudan. Peter

        

  • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 22 March 2009 15:14, by Lil Jiok by laws

    did Mr.Kiir for got about SPLA soldier or what? ashame on you Mr.Kiir,you live in Juba because of them, without them you living condition will insecure in Juba. Please keep you eye on them these are our backbone.

    

  • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 22 March 2009 18:06, by Abu-chook

    Hillary,

    Your comments and questions are really related to the problem that have just happen now in South Sudan! But first, thank mr. president for your action to calm down the tension. However, if I could have meet South Sudan president today, I would have ask some few questions:

    First, Mr. president, why would and your defense minister wait for so long until the situation gets out of control? how often do you check on your soldiers situation as a commander-in-Chief? I mean in terms of money and quantity control?

    Second, Mr. President, why is it South Sudan depends so much on oil revenues? Are oil revenues the only sources of income for South Sudan? If so, South Sudan has to figures out the ways to generate income to pay the army or police.

    Third, Mr. President, is there an accountabilty and responsibilty when it comes in terms of paying the disable soldiers or army and police in general speaking? if so, why is money taking more than five months to be pay to the disable soldiers or army? In my opinion as I am a concerned citizen, this will not only cause instabilty within the army department but as well as whole South Sudan.

    And lastly, Mr. President, now you ordered the money to be pay in full based on the months that were missed. So, my question to you is what long term solutions will you bring to this problem now; so that it can never happen again? what message will you send to those who are responsible of paying the disable soldiers or army and police?

    Ladies and Gentlemen, the above questions I just ask are based on the situation that has just happened here in South Sudan. I do believe that it is not money is not present but it is because there is no accountability and responsibility with those who are responsible of paying the disable soldiers. if so, why is it easier for mr. president to order the money to be pay immediatly rather than those who can do their job? I think those who are the high rankers within the army, are the one taking advantage of the disable soldiers’ six months period pay. Mr president, something need to be done; right now not later. Because mr. President, sooner or later the disable soldiers, army and police will loss confident in South Sudan government responsibilty; regardless of what South Sudan government is saying to these brave men and women of South Sudan!

    Mr. President, I believe our soldiers whether disable or not deserve their share to be pay on time. How simple is that! Thank you and hoping you can do something about this problem

    

  • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 23 March 2009 05:28, by Joseph lago

    that is right MR/MS M, Goss government is out of touch and they need to reconsider thier positions. there have been too many cases of Negligence of very vulnerable families, individual situations that the current government and other political parties as to address positively.

    late me give you one example; my brother had been serving in the sudan war for 20 years while on the side of SPLM/A until peace was singed in 2005. he was deployed in Torit and his wife and four kids in Kapoeta, so he went to kapoeta for family visit. on his way back to torit barrack, the car he was travelling turn upside down killing him with other two soldiers.

    from that time on 10/11/2007 when he passed away, no one else take care about his family, no salary for his family, no any other relationship exists between my brother, his family and the SPLM/A party of wich he spent the rest of life fighting for freedom of innocences people of sudan.

    now as my brother gone for good, his family has got no where to be seen, they diminished with him togather. one of his daughter was killed on the wheel (car accident)in Rumbeek in 2008 and her mother walked away with broken right leg. yet there is no reaction from GOSS government. when will government care about its people?

    thank for time

    

• Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 22 March 2009 11:15, by marial mach aduot mach

  Good work Mr. President to order your top generals to make the immediate payment to these selves less soldiers who gives everything the got to freed the southern Sudanese, their payment is not in a lost to Goss compare to millions being looted by other in your administration.

  

  • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 22 March 2009 14:19, by Gatwech

    The money to pay the disabled might have been withdrawn from somebody’s pocket (private bank account). What a failed tribal administration! Ahaaha...uhuhuhuu...

    

• Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 22 March 2009 14:16, by Gatwech

  Bor-Dinka guys,

  Well, you tried to defend the disabled, but driven by your clanish ego you rushed to blame only the incompetent Salva Kiir Mayardit for not paying the wounded soldiers or the disabled. This is typical of Bor-Dinka sick mentality. It is not new. Somebody told me that many Bor-Dinka citizens are experiencing mental breakdown every day and getting mad like mad dogs. Why, just guess...

  Let me lead you straight to the records despite your mental sickness; the first person who used to keep the money for disabled and orphans was Rebecca Nyandeng De Mabior (wife of late John Garang) during the bush or Kampala-Nairobi period. The money were given to John Garang by UN agencies and in turn gave all of it to his wife, Nyandeng to take care of them. No disabled person benefited except some Bor-Dinka thugs. The rest is history...

  Now in GOSS, it is Deng Dau (from Bor-Dinka) who is the Chairman of Disabled Commission. The budget for all the disabled in the South were given to him to distribute. Instead, he only gave his Bor-Dinka money and left the rest of tribes’ disables unpaid. So, Mr. Illiterate (Augustino Deng), if you want to blame or accuse any body based on facts, not your genetic lies, then it is your Bor-Dinka leaders like Rebecca Nyandeng and Deng Dau, period!

  

  • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 22 March 2009 16:17, by junub

    Gatwich,

    What you didn’t know because of your Dinkaphobia maybe, was that those dissabled heroes who vioced their anger for late payment at GoSS government are composited of all tribes of New Sudan. So wake up pro-Arab militia don’t let your eyes failed you short to see far.

    

  • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 22 March 2009 21:18, by Manyieldit

    Mad Gatwich, if you are outside Sudan then come to Sudan so that you can understand the structures of GOSS very well. You seem not to be well familiar with Goss structures, to give you some few clues of Goss structures, I beg you to take your time and look at this:

    1. SPLA disabled soldiers are not under Deng Dau or Nyadeng de Garang, they are fully under the SPLA directorate of wounded hero’s which is one of the SPLA departments.

    2. The payment in the SPLA is under the directorate of finance which is headed by Maj. Gen. Jatdahallah who from Bari tribe not a Dinka from Bor

    3. Madam Nyandeng de Garang is the presidential advisor on Gender affairs in the GOSS

    4. Deng Dau is the commissioner for wounded hero’s who are demobilized and integrated into civil societies not the one who are still in SPLA army

    5. There is different between SPLA army administration and GOSS administration

    So please Mr. Gatwich you need not to project your hidden agenda to Bor Tribe, you will remain after Bor tribe while the people of South Sudan including Dinka Bor will go ahead of you by thousands of miles in thinks for the development of south Sudan while you behind just looking on the website for what has happened to post your unless comment on just one Tribe in the whole country, can’t you see how mad you are? if at all there is no a psychiatrist in your location then come to Juba we have a good psychiatric Doctor who can diagnose your psychiatric problem and advice you on what medication you will take so that you will joint southern in Development thinking not unless comments on the website.

    Otherwise I wish you a quick recovery if you come to see psychiatrist in Juba.

    Thanks

    Manyieldit

    

    • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 23 March 2009 01:28, by Maruon Ayiei

      This is bizarre as the explanation, just days after the protest. The president of GOSS went to those towns of mutiny disabled heroes and ordered them to be paid in full for six month. Fishy right, the problem is why south Sudan become a totalitarian society run by a totalitarian regime? Why did we fought with Khartoum for twenty two (22) years? The lunatic brags and corruptional officials in Juba had precepted this as constitutional under the CPA. President Kiir is to blame because he is running the south Sudan from township to state and the entire Goss. Those soldiers would not have been drown to this situation since it’s a manufactured or ployed from the office of President. This is a good move from the soldiers. Since the money are there, every one who had mised his/her salaries for the past months would have to protest so they can be paid too. This is bad as the payment itself. Let’s me ask? Can anyone make the contrast or look between Juba and Khartoum the way they run the Government or the way they govern the people? I don’t see the different except that people drink openly in Juba. The league of the president or his subordinate/cabinet were reckless as the president himself. Where do the get those money that is to be paid to those soldiers? Oil prices are still down and the central government in Khartoum is still down-playing in issueing the money for south Sudan. Look between the line and analyse the shaky explanation. It does not make sense Mr. President. You cannot make this GOSS to be like a wild west where those who are strong and in the league can benefit( High officials and friends). This is a tasty policy which is not constitutional constructive. You already know the corrupted countries and the byproduct of corruption is anger, killing, and the enitre unrest of whole region. The fallacy of composition will always be worst than expacted. So, don’t be suprise when those incident arise because many like are to happen because it is the entire situation in Southern Sudan.

      NB: Mr Gatwech, this is hard to swallowed or ignor since your response are always tied to tribal views. This is not about Nyandeng Chol Atem or Deng Dau Deng or their position in the GOSS. This is all about soldiers who were not paid for long time. If the money were given to Deng Dau Deng and he fail to distributed them, he is entitle to question and scrunity, but this is not the case. You always devert the debate from issues for entire Southern Sudan to Dinka and Nuer. Is this why you rejoint SPLM/A or are you an agent of Khartoum? What we discussed here are not personal and you blindly do so on several occasion. There is a say in Dinka even though you are not from Dinka but I will still tell you. "when your son doesnot listen to what you tell him, leave him alone because the world will teach him". I came to the conclusion that you are on a public square and the public has to teach you how to understand topic and how to response to those topic. If you are chronical embedded to the 1990s mercantile theory about Dinka Bor, Think again because this is not the best capital you can use in Southern Sudan.I advise you to think maturally and response constructively so that the public will be able to understand what deprived them for a long time in Southern Sudan. The people all over southern Sudan are faced with similar condition and temptation, but we cannot turn it as tribal mug and use it to gain or create a tornmoil in the region. You are poorly nurtured if that is what you all can partice in your daily basis. You Gatwech will retrack your reckless writting when your time of tranny is close to an end.

      

    • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 24 March 2009 15:03, by the huge

      Dear Maruon Ayiei, Abu-chook, Manyieldit and Mimama,

      Thank you so much guys for your heroic comments, but the only problem you were just talking to the stone(Gatwech) he is just a sleeping dog so lets not bother our time on him, instead, let him keep sleeping. what a big fear and useless dreams in you about Dinka Dog?(gatwech) don’t always post all those nonesens of yours onto this website becuase it was not opened for your cowardic cries but for advices on how to build up this nation by people with high concern of development. if you really have ears and heart then remember what i told you the other time, that you should go to school and learn because the time to come we will not give illiterate Nuer the post of watchmen not unless they have degres.

      Ho God open the mines of idiots!!!

      

  • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 23 March 2009 01:06, by Abu-chook

    Mr.Gatwech,

    Gatwech, I am responding to your idiological tribal mentality comments. I believe mr. Gatwech you responded to the article without even reading about it. If you do, then why would you twisted the subject to your short-minded tribal language? It seemed to me that you are losing your analysis ability. Gatwech, I think you are a biased person. In other words, you are like a person who likes to connect the facts against ficttions. You need to learn what is the different between fact and bias? Mr. Gatwech you don’t said what you can not prove; and what you can not prove is a lying(or liar)—remember, you said "somebody told you" who is that somebody and is that somebody more credential to tell you the truth? Wake up mr sick-headed and express your view clearly.

    Mr Gatwech, imagine how will South Sudan be a better place if people like you still preaching the language of tribalism? Imagine Gatwech,how will you be a productive and an active citizen of South Sudan?; if you don’t know how to convey the real message rather than to creat the hatred message(Please read your commnents above).

    Mr Gatwech, I do think you need help in your head? you know why? Gatwech, one thing you need to bear in your mind is that; the article is not about tribal issues as you think so, but the article is about the disable soldiers demanding their share pay of salaries, don’t you think they deserve their share pay too? You feel me mr Gatwech! So go back and read the real article again, then you do comment on it. We will be wiating for you!!

    Gatwech, you need to wake up and see what direction the South Sudan is moving to! You are going into the opposite direction. Mr Gatwech you are now the tribalism pastor or preacher---based on your comments. You prove it by yourself.

    

  • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 23 March 2009 02:05, by Abu-chook

    Gatwech,

    What a person mentally ill are you? Gatwech let me ask you one simple question:

    Do you know what a system of Governmnet is? In my judgemnet on you based on your hatred commnents, I don’t think you know what the system of Governmnet is? And if you do know, then I don’t know what you are talking about in your comments.

    To tell you the real fact or truth not bias or lying like yours: I do believe what is mess-up in the Governmnet of South Sudan is a system of running the government not the government is running a system by the rules of law. What I mean is that almost each one of the ministries dose not really understand its duties and responsibilties of why he or she is a minister of labor, foreign affairs or interior; for instance. Because Mr Gatwech, in the real sense in the system of government, each minister has to be hold accountable for his or her action---Whether he/she does it right or wrong. That is the real world and sense of running a system of governmnet. Another way you can look at the system of government is to ask why would the South Sudan parliament passed the South Sudan Army Budget? What does this budget included? In my opinion, I think it included the salaries, weapons,uniforms and so on just mention fews. So, my point is that why is it taking so long to pay the disable soldiers while the army has the budget? So mr Gatwech, it is because the systen within the Governmnet of South Sudan is broken; that’s why? not because it is a tribal issue or some of the tribal memmbers were paid and some were letf out as you think so!!

    And what caused the disable soldiers to demand their salarie by using violent is because the system of government in South Sudan was broken! and if the system of government was not broken; then there will be no protest and every disable soldier will be paying on time which can make everybody happy. Do you understand mr Garwech. It is not about tribalism or tribal issues as you might think. Mr Gatwech, be open-minded and be with a 21st century mentality. You have to think and say it right in order to do it right.

    Long Live South!! South Sudan is coming Tomorrow!! You guys might know why??????

    

    • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 23 March 2009 02:46, by Mimama

      Gatkoth/gatwech,

      Can’t you fart positive? Why are farting on DinkaBor people everytime. If you have nothing to say shut up. Dinkabor fought with jallaba until they brought you the CPA which you now enjoying. Before opening your ass against Dinkabor ask Riek Machar first and he will tell you how good we are.

      Ngundeng once said that the tall black skinned Dinka will rule the South and the Nuer will match with Arabs in pursue of slavery. If you read Ngundeng’s book " Nuer prophet words", you will findout that the Nuer are cursed by God severely. He prophesis that Nuer will be traitors and eventually they will return in shame shortly after the war is over just to eat. Ngundeng said also that unless Jaang/Dinka slaughter a white bull and pray for their brother Nuer they will be slave-hearted forever. Ngundeng’s wrath against Nuer will not stop until the Dinka pray for our chaotic Nuer. He further foretold that Nuer will betray the South’s cause for several times before they realize that they miss their food and freedom.

      please find Ngundeng’s book titled herein the message in the libraries and read how a Nuer is cursed. At the end of the book you would learn that Ngundeng’s body was burned after his death just in protest for his tough prophecies against Nuer. Nuer has alot to learn inorder to become the real liberators.

      

      • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 23 March 2009 03:57, by junub

        mimama,

        And the worse is Dinka don’t have any mood of killing a white bull nor do they have any leisure time to pray for them.

        

        • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 23 March 2009 07:21, by WARLORD

          To dis stupid guy name himself isaac, think twice b4 u write sumthangs, kiir is not a minister of finacial, so there is no reason u can blame him asshole.and dont even mentioned Brahr el ghazal people on dis web. keep off our name on ur fucker mouth.

          

      • Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 25 March 2009 06:20, by peter

        Mr Gatkoth, I think you lose your way, can you adjust and be straigh forwards. I am a Great Dinka, but I was disagreed for what you have mentioned that Dinka Bor were brought us a CPA. Do you thinks Bor is the one who bring peace to Sudan? My advise to you is that just mentions 10 States and even NDA. Be faithful brother

        Veteran Peter

        

• Calm returns to South Sudan border town after Salva Kiir’s visit 24 March 2009 08:17, by Wad Juba

  What a mess!

  It really hurts to see and hear that the war vets in S. Sudan have resorted to taking the law in their on hands inorder for the GoSS government to address their issue/s.

  Firt of all, (as someone already commented) going to fight is mostly considered as a voluntary service, so therefore, our (heroes) war veterans should not take things for granted. I do surpport the war vets, but resorting to voilence is not a solution.

  Secondly, the government should draw a permernant solution for the veterans, because instead of paying salaries to these people, they(GoSS) can empower the war vets by retraining them in self-help projects such as tailoring, farming and other micro businesses. Also, the war vets should be paid a sum of money as a pension, not salary.

  Lastly, i noticed that the war vets were beating innocent civillians and shooting in the air. Is this another Zimbabwe, we are creating?

  Cheers!